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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always my

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Speaker 2: But but but but but but but but Yeah, bright

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: I love this time of year. Ty, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. And it's not necessarily just because it's

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Speaker 1: the holidays, but you know it's cold and rainy outside.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch some football. I've got a candle going

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Speaker 1: my pumpkins pumpkin pie spice candle roll. And I love

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Speaker 1: this coziness, Ti, and that's why I'm excited to be

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Speaker 2: With you, and everybody indeed, well, thank you again to

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Speaker 2: So if you haven't heard your team or your particular

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Speaker 2: We're going to do our best to make sure that

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Speaker 1: Yea, if you're going to Dubai, if you're going to Caracas, Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: Let's very quickly run through the bowl action from me yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to deep dive this as we typically would,

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Speaker 2: our bases, we had you toss State, winning by a

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Speaker 1: I was extremely wrong about that game, as was I

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Speaker 1: This is true, a wild Chamelia Ball. Last second field

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Speaker 2: And finally app State knocks off Middle Tennessee. This one

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Speaker 1: You were in on the Blue Raiders. I wasn't no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm convince you, I'm one hundred percent sure that

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Speaker 1: I never keep you. And because I do a show

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Speaker 1: on ESPN plus Hey with Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 3: We look very similar.

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Speaker 1: There is something about you and Jeff Schwartz where it's

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Speaker 2: Well, we also have some I think if I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Just be like a very gentle breaking news, breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Boo boo, boop boop. First of all, I know this

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Speaker 1: South Dakota State made it a game. There was some excitement,

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Speaker 2: I need a harder z though. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: It right byes. And I think Eastern Eastern Washington on

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Speaker 1: And I believe Valdosta State is your D two champion. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I saw that, so my gosh. Yeah, they in a

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Speaker 3: They're looking for a new gig.

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Speaker 2: They end up signing on to that Nick Saban coaching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not hired. This is not a he's

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Speaker 3: It's like when Kramer started going to work at Leland.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly.

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Speaker 2: them a few minutes ago hired Eli Drinkwitz, Yes off

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's from Arkansas, but it's been all over.

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Speaker 1: He was at Arkansas State with Gus and Brian Harson,

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Speaker 2: And some other coordinator hires here or promotions, what have you.

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Speaker 2: Tyson Summers is going to be the Colorado defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Was wondering where he was going to end up. Smaller

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Speaker 1: Dan, Let's do it, Dane.

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Speaker 3: The Week Full disclosure.

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Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to make a new

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Speaker 2: I promise you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got one cooking up in the lab right now.

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Speaker 1: I did. I did make a joke to you. We

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Speaker 2: All right, well, okay, we've got a lighter slate of

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Speaker 2: But again, because we got so far out in front

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Speaker 2: for questions.

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Speaker 3: These solicited questions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we had a bunch of them, so early bowl

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Speaker 2: So let's start with the bulls and let's go to

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Speaker 2: the Bahamas Bowl. Let's the Makers Wanted Bahamas bull Dan.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been to the Bahamas? I have not.

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Speaker 1: I have been to the Bahamas.

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Speaker 2: Actually, like bring break in two thousand and three or

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Speaker 2: two thousand and two somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Let that go for you.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting.

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Speaker 2: I watched a guy do a cannon ball into a

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Speaker 1: I looked up Makers Wanted and all that comes up

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Speaker 1: is the Bahamas Bowl. Like there's no, there's the Elk

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Speaker 1: Grove Business Elk Grove Village Business Park. They make it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want sure, are they? I?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a business park that is sponsoring the

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Speaker 1: if your name is Devin and you want to sponsor

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Speaker 1: a bowl, it can be the Devin Bowl Offshore.

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Speaker 3: Sure makers want it. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Thomas Robinson Stadium in Nasau cool place for a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: especially if you're Toledo. We've got this. Used to be

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Speaker 2: the what chick fil A Bowl? I believe Chick fil

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Speaker 2: A Bowl? No, they still got a Chick fil A Bowl.

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Speaker 1: No, no, but I think, oh no, I think they

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Speaker 1: serve what was not the chick fil A Bahamas Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The Popeyes Bahamas Bull always Popeyes.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me? Yes, all right.

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Speaker 2: Friday twelve twenty one on ESPN, it is FIU at

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Speaker 2: eight and four, squaring off against the Toledo Rockets at

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Speaker 2: seven and six. Toledo currently a six point favorite. They

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Speaker 2: get a gift suite, a Yetti rambler, a string backpack,

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Speaker 2: board shorts, a towel, and a pin seems reasonable enough.

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Speaker 1: I will say this. I'm not gonna sit here and

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: If you can find yourself a rambler, I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what this type of drinking apparatus is called. They're great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go and find it, like a knockoff one whatever on

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Speaker 1: Amazon or wherever these fine goods are sold. They're wonderful.

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Speaker 1: They fit in your car holder, correct, Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would highly recommend. They're like a stainless steel that's insulated.

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Speaker 1: Go wild. I'm all about hydration, ty, you know that.

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Speaker 2: So look, I'm not enamored with either team here, but

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Speaker 2: I am far less enamored with Toledo's defense and any

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Speaker 2: other unit on the field. They gave up thirty eight

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Speaker 2: points to Northern Illinois towards the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: which is a statement in the wrong kind of statement.

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Speaker 2: These guys gave up a lot of points this year,

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Speaker 2: except against the Mighty Ball State Cardinals, who gave me

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the fi U offense. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go.

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Speaker 3: With captain James Morgan.

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Speaker 2: He set a school record at twenty six touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: which Jones is coaching the Panthers these days.

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Speaker 3: I'm not at all confident here. I don't have a

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say f IU, even though they're a dog,

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Speaker 2: I like them outright, but only about eleven ish confidence points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no real bad losses for FYU. I would say

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Speaker 1: winning six of eight. James Morgan's fine, a little sloppy

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Speaker 1: the confidence points? Are you eleven but they're at eleven eleven? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have let me let me load it up real quick.

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Speaker 1: Where is my confidence pool? Whatever? We'll get back to it.

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Speaker 2: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in Albertson Stadium in Boise. We've

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Speaker 2: got Western Michigan at seven and five against BYU at

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Speaker 2: six and six. BYU actually out a thirteen point favorite here,

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Speaker 2: Dan when we last left our heroes, the Cougars. They

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Speaker 3: So my question to you.

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Speaker 2: Is will be why you be motivated to take home

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Speaker 2: all the potatoes at the famous Sidahoe Potato ble Well.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be well hydrated because they are given

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Speaker 1: hydro flasks, which I believe is what is that? It's

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Speaker 1: it's like a drink holder, similar to a rambler. I

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Speaker 1: nothing crazy. I'm going to byu here because of their defense.

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Speaker 1: They are just they do not allow bigger plays and

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Speaker 1: they are in that way a boa constrictor or in

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Speaker 1: this case a by you constricted. No, yes, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: it's early, all right, thank you very much. My biggest

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Speaker 1: is go to that. I think it's called the Hawkins

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Speaker 1: pack out. It's a burger shack that's been around since

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Speaker 1: the fifties or sixties and boise. Notice the pronunciation it's

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Speaker 1: really good. I love a good old burger shack. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to overlook the fact that Western

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Speaker 2: beat Northern Illinois at the end of the year. And

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Speaker 2: I know I just crapped on Northern Illinois offense, but

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Speaker 2: it's still a pretty good win for them. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: don't think i'd want to go points here BYU minus thirteen,

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Speaker 2: but I think BYU wins and I'm pretty confident in that.

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Speaker 2: I'd say around thirty confidence points for me, I'm at

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Speaker 2: thirty six.

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Speaker 1: TI wow, Okay, thirty six, so we sort of agree.

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Speaker 1: I had Georgia Southern at thirty one, I had North

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Speaker 1: you get those points to get him early. Yep. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I had Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Very high and that didn't work. Yeah, rough, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: also had who else did I have? I had someone

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Speaker 2: The Jared Birmingham Bowl, Yes, at Legion Field in Birmingham.

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Speaker 2: It's on ESPN on Saturday. The twenty second. It's between

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Speaker 2: Memphis at eight and five and wake Forest at six

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Speaker 2: and six. Currently, the Tigers are a three and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. In this game, the participants will get

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Speaker 2: a gift suite, an Oakley backpack, or sunglasses.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd go backpack. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: You get a cooling hoodie whatever.

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Speaker 2: That is no disrespect to bit Roberts though, no no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: So again, another one where the gift suite's doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of heavy lifting. But listen, if you are Liz,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, I'm with it. Okay, So I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: which direction this one's headed. It feels to me like

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Speaker 2: you look at Wake season. Their worst loss was FSU,

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Speaker 2: which isn't a great loss, mind you, but the rest

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Speaker 2: They actually beat NC State and Duke in the final

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Speaker 2: that's inconsistent enough to have trouble here with Memphis. I

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Speaker 2: the point spread here because it just it feels like

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Speaker 1: Big issue for Memphis or big three issues there without

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Speaker 1: their offensive defensive coordinators who both got new jobs. Kenny

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Speaker 1: Dillingham is the offensive coordinator. He goes to Auburn. Northern

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Speaker 1: Arizona hired Memphis defensive coordinator for their head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's going pro. So I still am gonna

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Speaker 1: go Memphis because the defense. If I'm going to lock

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Speaker 1: I mean, and then going to NC State. Obviously winning

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Speaker 1: This is Jared as in The Jeweler, The Jeweler. Have

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Speaker 1: for the Birmingham Bull. But I have Memphis here with

437
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: a good amount of confidence. I believe I have Memphis

438
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: with Oh my gosh, this is my most confident I

439
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: might have to change forty one points for Memphis. Let's

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: do it.

441
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm changing the wake Forest.

442
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: You talked me out of Memphis, just as you put

443
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: all your confidence points on that with.

444
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: The coordinators and Darrel Henderson.

445
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be a hypocrite if I didn't go

446
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: Wake Forest here, because again, it's not so big of

447
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: a mismatch that Memphis, I think would would rule supreme

448
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: here in light of arrackles of the circumstances. So I'm

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: gonna go Wake here. I'm gonna change it. But I'm

450
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: sick stick with five confidence points, not at all. I

451
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: might adjust my confidence here, Okay. The Lockheed Martin Armed

452
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: Forces Bowl they played at M. G. Carter Stadium in

453
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Fort Worth, Texas. It's also on Saturday the twenty second

454
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Speaker 2: on ESPN. It's a clash between Houston at eight and

455
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: four and the Army Knights at ten and two. A

456
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: great year for Army. They are a three and a

457
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: half point favorite in this game. Dan they get a

458
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: gift suite, a Bluetooth speaker, helmet.

459
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and football. It sounds like what Sports Illustrated

460
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: would be giving away in the twenteen ninety six if

461
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: the head of bowl game, Army will be without Jay Bateman,

462
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. I don't believe he will be coaching

463
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: in this game. He is the new defensive coordinator at

464
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Houston certainly still without Derek King, their starting

465
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: quarterback who went down and believed with a meniscus tear

466
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: late in the season, but Houston still able to move

467
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm going to go Army here again because

468
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: of the defense. Houston's defense was a mess this year.

469
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: They fire their defensive coordinator pretty late in the process

470
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: of the season. So I am still going with Army

471
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: to control this game in Fort Worth, even though Houston

472
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: has what appears to be will have more traveling fans.

473
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: And I will add this tie because I know you

474
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: care just immensely. Las Superior for Tacos in the greater

475
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: Fort Worth area. It is a tortilla factory at Tortilla

476
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Bakery at for Ti area that also makes their own tacos.

477
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all in on Army here. Not only is

478
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: the Eric King out, but Ed Oliver is not playing

479
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: for the Cougars, and keep in mind that they also

480
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: canned their defensive coordinator fairly recently. They're just a lot

481
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: going on here for Houston on the defensive side of

482
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: the ball. Not good stuff, and I don't think that's

483
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: a great formula against a team like Army, which runs

484
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: the option really effectively. They're a disciplined team. They hold

485
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: the ball for thirty nine minutes. If you don't know

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: about Kelvin Hopkins or Darnell Wolfork, look them up. See

487
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: what they've been up to all season. It's been really impressive.

488
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Army defense, which has been pretty

489
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: good all seasons. So I think they continue that trend.

490
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: I don't think motivation's an issue for Army. I like

491
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: them to the tune of twenty nine confidence points done.

492
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, we agree.

493
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: The Dollar General Ball at lad People Stadium in Mobile, Alabama,

494
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: also on Saturday, the twenti second, also on ESPN, Buffalo

495
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: at ten to three is two and a half point

496
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: favorite over the Troy Trojans at nine and three. In

497
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: this one, Daniel, they get this, listen to this. This

498
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: is very very This here, I think is the sleeper pick. Okay,

499
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: a Yamaha sound bar with built in subwolfer Ooh tasty.

500
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up right now.

501
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: I could sink my teeth into a Yamaha sound bar

502
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: right about now.

503
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh this looks great. I mean, I don't know how

504
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: it compares to others, but for just playing in a

505
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: game and getting it for walking through the door. Wonderful gift.

506
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: Also say hello to our old friends over at the

507
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: time we watch Company Dan.

508
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be a custom if I am reading

509
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: this correctly, A custom dollar General Bowl watch. So okay,

510
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: if that's something you feel like wearing all the time,

511
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: good for you. Maui Jim sunglasses and a Wilson game ball.

512
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Not the worst soundbar, probably taking up the budget, but

513
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: there are worse things to get, and especially for Troy,

514
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: which I think is like two hours away from Mobile,

515
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: so de facto home game, pretty far away from Buffalo.

516
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: I actually liked the Trojans here because of their defense,

517
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: stepping up in a year where they had to replace

518
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: a lot on offense. I thought Neil Brown did a

519
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: terrific job, and as much as I enjoyed the Buffalo story,

520
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: I think the disappointment we talk about motivated teams. Buffalo

521
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: like a play and a half away from winning the

522
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: MAC and now they're in the They're in lad Peebles

523
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: and playing in the Dollar General Bowl. I like Troy

524
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: here by a good amount, so I have a confidence

525
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: level for the Trojans. Let's verify this. Twenty six points?

526
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Wow wow, I feel good about it. Yeah, yeah, I

527
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: like Troy a lot. I am going to go Troy

528
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: as well.

529
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: I've got a dilemma here between Buffalo and their offense,

530
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: which was one of the best stories all year, and

531
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: Neil Brown, who's a great young coach, as you said,

532
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: de facto home game. He's going for his third straight

533
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: season with ten or more wins. He's two in bowl games.

534
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: Just just a little bit more on that side of

535
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: the coin. To kind of sway me here, I'll say, Troy,

536
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm not as confident as you give me, like fifteen

537
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: confidence points. Okay, we sort of and our final game

538
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: before we tackle some questions the Sofi Hawaii Bowl?

539
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: What is so Fi?

540
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: Dan?

541
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: Can you look that up?

542
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that an investment something? An investment something, isn't it?

543
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, great rates, great benefits is what

544
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: they are. Claiming to be. It's an online personal finance

545
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: company that provides student loan refinancing, mortgages, and personal loans.

546
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: This is not an endorsement. Do a ton of research

547
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: if you need something like this, because you don't want

548
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: to be underinformed.

549
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: So fi Hawaii Bowl at a Loha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii,

550
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: also on Saturday the twenty second, also on ESPN. It

551
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: is between Hawaii at eight and five and Louisiana Tech

552
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: at seven and five.

553
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: This one's a pick them, so you pick your favorite.

554
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: Listen to this.

555
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: Get a load of this.

556
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Dan ooh Li man an electronics gift sweet.

557
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued.

558
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: It's just gift sweet, is what they say.

559
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a room full of composite cables. Who RCA. Yeah.

560
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: They also get an Oakley backpack, Oakley sunglasses, a Tory

561
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: Richard Aloha shirt, shorts and swim trunks, a performance T shirt,

562
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: and a beach towel.

563
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Seems like a nice little loot there.

564
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I'm totally for this Hawaii Bowl gift suite.

565
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: The electronics thing. You got your sunglasses, you're in Hawaii.

566
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: You get your backpack, you get your swim trunks, you

567
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: get a beach towel, which I think is a thorough

568
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: way of thinking about it. And this is something we

569
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: bring up or I bring up every year. I can

570
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: only speak for myself, but I am inching closer to

571
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: becoming a Hawaiian shirt guy. Really no, printed, not full time,

572
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: not all the time, but in terms of invited to barbecue, cookout,

573
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it over the summer, the printed,

574
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: lighter weight, button up shirt tie. Yeah. Who am I

575
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: trying to impress at this point? WHOA? I want comfort?

576
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: And so I'm going in this direction. Are you going

577
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to go mustache too? If I could, I would seasonally

578
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: grow a mustache, for sure. Wow. Yeah, but it just

579
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: does not. I can grow facial hair, I can grow

580
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: the scruff that I have, but the mustache does not

581
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: come in as full as I'd like to make that

582
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: a part of my at least part time identity.

583
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: See, if I let it go for like two and

584
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: a half weeks, I'd be like super Mario. I could

585
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: go and I can have the whole push broom thing

586
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: going on.

587
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: If I really I've seen your mustache, I would not

588
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: make that comparison. You haven't seen it fully grown out well?

589
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: Improve it. Ty, you can't all be can't be all

590
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: talk even though this is an audio podcast. Let's do

591
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: something for the people.

592
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

593
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Let's make up. Let's make later on. I don't know

594
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: if it's a Notre dame prop that we need to

595
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: make a mustache bet. Yeah, I mean, I'll grow it

596
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: for whatever allotted amount of time we agree on and

597
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: we can compare.

598
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Much to the chagrin of I need to think about this.

599
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: This could have ramifications.

600
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Let's find a game. We've previewed how many games as

601
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: far twelve fourteen, something like that. Yeah, let's find a

602
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: game in the back half where we find something that

603
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: we dramatically disagree on, and we'll go from there. Aside

604
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: from that, though, because I'm not now that intrigued by

605
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Hawaii Louisiana Attack, I think I'm taking Louisiana Attack. What

606
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: single cable or wire if this electronics gift suite we

607
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: joke about composite, What single cable or wire in this suite?

608
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: If it were only this cable or wire would you

609
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: be most excited to walk in and see that you

610
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: could load up on?

611
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: I would say probably like a twenty five foot lightning

612
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: charging cable.

613
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be incredible. Charge your from wherever.

614
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Twenty five thirty feet more of that, like braided texture

615
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: on the outside, so it's not going to break.

616
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: Yep, you've got one in your apartment.

617
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Actually, you have got one right next to my couch

618
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: that can go anywhere on the couch. Yep, it's a

619
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: braided I don't remember what brand. I'm not giving them

620
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: a free plug, but it's amazing, it's incredible. I think

621
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: that's the right answer. Yeah, okay, high quality braided lightning,

622
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: all right. I like Cole McDonald.

623
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: He's the Hawaii quarterback, provided he can stay clear of

624
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Ferguson. He is the so called sack daddy Dan.

625
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: He is indeed the sack daddy. He's got fifteen sacks

626
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: this season. He's got forty four and a half in

627
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: his career. I think the Hawaii offense overpowers Louisiana Tech,

628
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: but beware because Louisiana tack's won four straight bowl games.

629
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Hawaii here. You're going out right, outright

630
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: twenty confidence points.

631
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawaii's defense is dreadful, and I know it's a

632
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: home game for the Warriors. Are they back to the

633
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Rainbow Warriors. I'm not sure, purposely not saying it because

634
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I am going to go Louisiana tach

635
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: here because I mean, their their defense is at least

636
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: pretty good, even though their offense is sort of a mess.

637
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I lie, like, what's it's sack Daddy, Sack.

638
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Daddy Jalen Ferguson.

639
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going with I'm going with Ferguson as a

640
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: game changer. I assume he's playing, because why wouldn't he.

641
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm going with Louisiana Tech. We doesn't wait.

642
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: Okay, more Bowl games will be forthcoming, we promise. Yep uh.

643
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Stay tuned to our show a little bit later on

644
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: this week, where we'll dive into some others. But in

645
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: the meantime, Dan, because we knew we'd have a little

646
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: bit of extra time, because we knew that this was

647
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: going to be a very early recording time, we decided

648
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: let's just sort of ease our way into Sunday morning

649
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: and let's answer some questions. Let's congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail,

650
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: You've got mail on the solid verbal. As we often do,

651
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: we do our best to pay homage those of you

652
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880
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Speaker 1: We got a lot of emails since our last show

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Speaker 1: where we talked about going to eight teams for the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has. The funny thing about people's playoff thoughts is

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Speaker 1: there are only like seven teams realistically have a shot

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Speaker 1: to get in the playoff every year, nine teams whatever.

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Speaker 1: But everybody has thoughts on the playoffs. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: where it should be going. And I appreciate that. I

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Speaker 2: And let me let me jump in for a second,

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Speaker 2: because I erroneously drew reference to the old Dan Wetzel

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Speaker 2: playoff plan. Oh updated, Yeah, he updated it. I hadn't

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Speaker 2: seen it. Somebody in a stute for Baller pointed it out.

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Speaker 1: But you could still prefer that. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that plan.

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Speaker 2: But Dan has since updated his plan and he's basically

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Speaker 2: saying now that there's there's no need to go to

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Speaker 2: sixteen if we can be smarter about how we utilize

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Speaker 2: the conference championships.

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Speaker 1: So he is now, but he wanted he wanted to.

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Speaker 1: He wants to utilize them as like quarter final games

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Speaker 2: Is essentially yeah, in a weird like hybrid way. But

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Speaker 2: he's advocating for eight teams now in the playoff, and

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Speaker 2: I would advise everyone go read what he has to

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Speaker 2: say on the matter because it's always very well thought

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Speaker 2: out and very well informed. And you know, we've had

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Speaker 2: Dan on the show countless time, so I like his

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Speaker 2: line of thinking. Be it eight, be a sixteen teams,

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Speaker 2: But I just I needed to make sure I got

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Speaker 2: that on the record that he did in fact update

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Speaker 2: his official plan at this point.

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Speaker 1: Have you updated your thought about whether or not the

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Speaker 1: playoffs should be an event like an unto itself event

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Speaker 1: or a national champion finder?

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, see, I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: So basically I don't know what you said it on

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Speaker 2: the show and when I went back and I edited it. Sure,

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Speaker 2: you're a very smart man, mind you, sometimes I'm not

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Speaker 2: smart enough to understand what you mean by that.

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Speaker 1: So, like the NC DOUBLEA tournament is an event that

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Speaker 1: happens to find a national champion at the end, right, correct,

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Speaker 1: You're not necessarily watching the NC doublea tournament because you

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Speaker 1: want to find the best team, because a team can

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Speaker 1: get hot and beat what we perceive by whatever metric

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Speaker 1: and whatever schedule and resume to be the best team. Okay,

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Speaker 1: The idea is that it's not a national championship event

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Speaker 1: as much as it is, you know, a whittling down

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Speaker 1: and there are upsets, and there are crazy moments, and

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Speaker 1: there are cool stories and narratives, and so the bigger

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Speaker 1: the playoff gets, the more in the direction of we're

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Speaker 1: not just doing this to find a national would.

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Speaker 2: You But would you say the same thing about the

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Speaker 1: I would say no, not with series based. I would

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl stands apart to me from the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Like people watch the NFL playoffs even though if they

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Speaker 1: know if they're this team or that team doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have a chance, but they want to watch a high

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Speaker 1: level game between two good teams. But in watching a

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Speaker 1: series thing is different watching MLB or NBA or hockey,

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Speaker 1: I think is definitely no.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not smart enough to understand this

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Speaker 2: logic now for me.

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Speaker 1: Like here here, here would be an example. So in

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Speaker 1: an eighteen playoff this year, who would well Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: ended up as the three seed? Yep, right, who would

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame end up playing in the first round and

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Speaker 1: they would play who whoever the sixth seed is? The

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Speaker 1: what Ohio State? Sure would you watch? If I should

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Speaker 1: answer this question, thinking Ohio State and Notre Dame are

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Speaker 1: probably flawed to flawed to beat Alabama or maybe Clemson,

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Speaker 1: would I still watch this game because I get a

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Speaker 1: high level experience one hundred percent? Right, to me, it

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Speaker 1: feels like that's not necessarily winnowing down, whittling down, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: to a national champion. But at the same time, it's like,

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Speaker 1: this is a cool thing that we have as a

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Speaker 1: result of these resumes and teams, Like I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl And if that were a playoff, a

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Speaker 1: sixteen team playoff matchup between Ohio State and Washington, I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, this is cool. I get Washington secondary against

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's offense and Dwayne Haskins maybe his last game.

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Speaker 1: There is something about being a part of an event,

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Speaker 1: even though we're not realistically thinking this is a true

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Speaker 2: Finder it's hard for me to decouple the playoff experience

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Speaker 2: from the regular season experience. I am perfectly fine with

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Speaker 2: playing out your regular season with seeding teams to the

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Speaker 2: best of our ability, and then letting them hash it

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Speaker 2: out on the field, whether it's a one game playoff

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Speaker 2: or three game playoff, I am all for letting them

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Speaker 2: decide it on the field. I hated the old system. Great, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the old old system.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody plays a ball and then there's just time.

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Speaker 3: I hated.

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Speaker 2: I hated that it shouldn't be in the hands of

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Speaker 2: sports riders to decide who is the national champion.

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Speaker 1: To disagree, you should let them, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You should let them play it out on the field

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Speaker 2: and see who the best team is. So for my money,

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Speaker 2: now I can't separate one from the other. You play

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Speaker 2: your regular season to get into the playoff. Once you

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Speaker 2: get into the playoff system, whatever that is, you got

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Speaker 2: to win three games, two games, whatever in order to

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Speaker 2: prove that you are the best team in the land.

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Speaker 2: That's the way that this should work.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But do you still agree, disagree whatever with if

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Speaker 1: we go to something like eight first, Well, do you

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Speaker 1: want it the best eight teams period or do you

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Speaker 1: want autobids?

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Speaker 2: I think we go conference champs and then three at

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Speaker 2: large bids, one of which should should include or should

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Speaker 2: try to include a group of five.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with the five conference champs, the best G

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Speaker 1: five team, and the two at larges. And I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that because if you are truly an excellent team

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Speaker 1: that happens to go up against another excellent team in

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Speaker 1: your conference, you're probably still getting in. You're not being

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Speaker 1: like Georgia would not be left out this year in

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Speaker 1: that system. And I think we're still looking this as

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Speaker 1: a TV event. We still want it to be relatively

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Speaker 1: inclusive because of the Power five structure of teams that

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Speaker 1: even if a Pac twelve team is not having great year,

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Speaker 1: they're probably there's probably something about that Pac twelve team, like,

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Speaker 1: for instance, once again Washington's defense this year that plays

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Speaker 1: on a playoff level caliber. They're not a complete team.

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Speaker 1: I think there is something about that that is interesting

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Speaker 1: to me, and that would also get us Dwayne Haskins

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Speaker 1: in the playoff this year, that would get us the

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Speaker 1: Washington Secondary and that would get us UCF or whoever

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Speaker 1: it is in any given year from the G five level.

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Speaker 1: So I think I'm okay with that. You know, having

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Speaker 1: the best teams it gets us into like a lot

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Speaker 1: of rerun territory, and I'm not always the biggest fan

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Speaker 1: of that. If this is still a TV event.

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Speaker 3: You're losing me a little bit. But we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: have to agree to this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here, I think I think you play the regular

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Speaker 2: season to get to the playoff.

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Speaker 3: You play the playoff to get the trophy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does UCF resemble a star intern thinking they should

872
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: be ceo? Oh man, that's so mean wow? Or should

873
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: they not be judged for refusing to play teams above

874
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: their station? Is two years of greatness more important than

875
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: prolonged success that comes from from schneids or Snid's on Twitter?

876
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

877
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: So what is your opinion of how UCF or any

878
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, Boise State, Houston, Fresno, San Diego State teams

879
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: that have shown an ability to beat high level Power

880
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: five teams, how they can make that leap under the

881
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: current system.

882
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: Under the current system, I think.

883
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: No matter what, they're not going to be allowed in

884
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: I really do.

885
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: Under the current system, it's just hard. It's skewed against UCF.

886
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: And I'm not so much arguing for UCF as a

887
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: M four, just this glaringly obvious situation that we're in

888
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: where it's tough for any group of five team to

889
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: break through.

890
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: There was a story this week that UCF turned down

891
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Florida's offer for a two to one to play two

892
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: games in Gainsville and one in Orlando, and everybody react

893
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: to that like, well, it looks like they don't want

894
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: to play with the big boys. Looks like they don't

895
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: want to prove themselves against the best and do what

896
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: it takes.

897
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like we don't have context for.

898
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Any of that.

899
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: We don't know.

900
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what would happen if UCF scheduled

901
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: the world If u CF scheduled Florida, and I think

902
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: they already have scheduled Stanford, and they scheduled I don't know,

903
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, really decent good whatever a mix of decent good.

904
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: They scheduled you know, Penn State or Michigan State. Not

905
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: the top top top but really strong non conference they

906
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: would be number five. They would one hundred percent be

907
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: number five at twelve and zero, beating Stanford, Oklahoma State,

908
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: and Michigan State or Florida whatever. Because people would then say, well,

909
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: look the American is it's good, but it's not the

910
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Big twelve, it's not the Big ten. They would just

911
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: find another reason. That's all it's going to come down to.

912
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: This is, by the way, on brand one hundred percent

913
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: for Florida to try and schedule a non conference opponent

914
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: in the state of Florida.

915
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they don't want to leave Florida. Why

916
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: would you no? No right now? But that's that was

917
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: like the reaction like, well, it looks like UCF doesn't know.

918
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: That's so that's such a like a straw man wasted argument.

919
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: So UCF probably needs to join a conference. Some conference

920
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 1: needs to invite UCF, or some conference needs to invite

921
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: Houston or Boise State or whoever, if they can prove

922
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: over time, because otherwise it's just they're going to find

923
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: another reason. That's all it is, all right, next question,

924
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: next question. And I should also point out along these

925
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: same lines type because people are always saying well, like UCF,

926
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: they can't compete, or Houston can and compete. The difference

927
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: in talent between a high, high level the best G

928
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: five team and a good maybe not Alabama Clemson, but

929
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: a really good Power five team doesn't exist. No, because

930
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: those teams that are going eleven to one, twelve and

931
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: zero are doing so because it's a you know, a

932
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: conflation of developed talent transfers, really good coaching. And you look,

933
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: you see in the NFL draft, all of a sudden,

934
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, some guy is from Houston. Fresno State. You know,

935
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: at Oliver is a name that jumps out. He could

936
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: have gone anywhere. But there's no difference in talent. You

937
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: look at those Boise State teams. They can beat anybody.

938
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: It's just they're in a different conference. That's all.

939
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: All right, Where are we going next?

940
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Next? Let's go to I love this question from our

941
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: new in person pal, Dan Klobishark.

942
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, clobh.

943
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: The Lowry's beef Ball. Lowry's a primary place all over

944
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: this country is a time honored Rose Bowl tradition, which

945
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: as background, they bring both teams that are in the

946
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl in to Lowries to eat as much beef

947
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: as they want and compare the poundage. What similar event

948
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: could either of you compete in and do relatively well

949
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: whatever relative to a college football player. Oh man, what

950
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: single food do you feel like you could hang with

951
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: your average I don't know, Michigan outside lineback. Pumpkin pie. Okay,

952
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: pumpkin pie. This is what I would do, because I

953
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: think it's more of a mentality than it is a

954
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: physical thing, which I think you're right in selecting pumpkin

955
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: pie for yourself. Yeah, if we could, just if there

956
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: could be an event where you stand around a room

957
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: and just or nerves are passed around. There is something

958
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: about that experience that I could go for hours. Tie

959
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: those little grilled cheese dippers, cocktail weenies, some nachos, quesadillas,

960
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, a wing or two. If that is the setup,

961
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm an endurance athlete. I wanted my

962
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: wedding to be all or dervs. Yeah, I would call

963
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: this event either you've been dervd or app state. I

964
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: would really make it a Upstate's pretty good. And it's

965
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: just that it's more of the forum to me than

966
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: it is the specific food. So if we could have

967
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: bite sized or dirves passed around a room. I feel

968
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: like I could hang with a big ten.

969
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: What's your what's your order of power rating?

970
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: What is my number one? If I saw it? You know,

971
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a taco guy, so there's sometimes mini tacos

972
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: or tiktos with like a little guak dipper. Yeah, if

973
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: I could, if you're like charring up caseity at triangles

974
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: with a little bowl of gualk, that would be my

975
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: number one. Love a meatball, cocktail, WEENI with mustard tenders.

976
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: You see some tenders being passed or nuggies. I'm totally

977
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: in that mood all the time. So yeah, any anything

978
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: like in that zone. Egg rolls, egg rolls, spring rolls. Yeah,

979
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting so hungry I could I could do some

980
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: damage with punkin pie. Yeah really, So yours is more specific?

981
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Mind is more mood? Yeah, okay, where are we going next?

982
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: All right?

983
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: This?

984
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Okay? So somebody asked the question for pure So it's eric,

985
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: what's the best Bowl game for pure entertainment value for

986
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: people who don't care about wins, points, weird schemes, offield shenanigans,

987
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: Animals on the field. There's animals on the field, which

988
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I have a specific day actually December twenty eighth, I

989
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: think that's the day I was looking at. I still

990
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: have some scores on my schedule, skill.

991
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: God, Perdue versus Auburn in the Music City Bowl, which

992
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: I think actually is going to relate to another question

993
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: that I saw in here.

994
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: If we get to oh yeah, this is the day,

995
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: You're right, you nailed this.

996
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: West Virginia Syracuse and Washington State Iowa State. Yes, those

997
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: three games, all of which I think could go either way.

998
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: You should have a ton of points in West Virginia Syracuse,

999
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: hopefully without Will Grear, without Will Rallison's I still think

1000
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: you'll have a lot of points. Washington State Iowa State's

1001
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: going to be a fun game, Like I have no

1002
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: confidence on which direction that one heads.

1003
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: In a dome in Arnmanshew for sure playing Brock Party

1004
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: and Washington State could have been that disappointment team. But

1005
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: I really do think I think Washington State is going

1006
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: to perform well on a stage in which I think

1007
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: there's no other game that's going to be on that

1008
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be watching the out ball on ESPN. So

1009
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's a great, great

1010
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: slag and also Perdue Auburn. Someone else in here asked, us, Oh, here,

1011
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: it's mad. I see it.

1012
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: Which teams are at least motivated to be playing in

1013
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: their bowl game? I might.

1014
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: I brought this up on the first Bowl preview show.

1015
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: But you can make a real good case for Auburn

1016
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: against Perdue, and that would be a huge win for

1017
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: Perdue if they can knock off Auburn. They're not favored

1018
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: in that game, but I could see that one. You know, Auburn,

1019
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: do they really want to play Perdue? Jared Stidham's declared

1020
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: for the draft, Like, there are some atmospherics going on

1021
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: there that I could see working in Purdue's direction.

1022
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: I would I would jump. I would lump Michigan in there,

1023
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: a game away from winning the division, lost in the

1024
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: fashion in which they did. I saw a completely flat

1025
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Michigan team last year in I think it was the

1026
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: outback ball against South Carolina and opponent wise playing Florida again,

1027
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: there's just there's nothing novel or exciting about Florida Michigan

1028
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: this year. So I would lump the Wolverines in there.

1029
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: And don't forget about the New Era Demotivation Bowl between

1030
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Miami.

1031
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: So at least they get to play in Yankee Stadium.

1032
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: There's at least the New York destination involved, and that's

1033
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: interesting and weird, and you're going to a very different

1034
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: place than Miami or Madison, Wisconsin. But in terms of

1035
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: how those two teams ended their.

1036
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: Season, we're just looking to get this over with, Doug.

1037
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think that's right.

1038
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: All right, where are we going next year?

1039
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: You're not heading to the Pinstripe BWL this year?

1040
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: No, not going this year.

1041
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: That's a shame. You still have your hat. I do

1042
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: have my hat. It's downstairs. Let's go to Okay, we've

1043
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions about playoff stuff. Ooh, I

1044
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: love this question. Yeah. Best name of a bowl that

1045
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: no longer exists? Oh, that's easy. What is it?

1046
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: Blue Bonnet Bowl?

1047
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Dan, that's pretty good.

1048
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: It used to be called the Astro blue Bonnet Bowl,

1049
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: I believe when it was played in the Astrodome, the

1050
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 2: State Flower of Texas.

1051
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: I believe the blue Bonnet Okay. I was a big

1052
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: fan of the Blockbuster Bowl, which might just have a

1053
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: new name. Yeah.

1054
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: I think that's now the Outback Bowl.

1055
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: That could just be the Outback Bowl. But I specifically.

1056
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: Remember we used to go to Fort Lauderdale every winter

1057
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: and stay in I don't know, some hotel and I

1058
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: think the game was it was either in Miami, Fort

1059
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Lot or wherever in that area. And I remember staying

1060
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: in the same hotel as like the marching band for

1061
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: one of the teams. I was like, all right, I've

1062
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: made it. Yeah, this is the show. I always enjoyed

1063
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: the Copper Bowl, So maybe I'm just going with old

1064
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: bowl names. I remember there used to be a Dixie Bowl,

1065
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah there was? Was there there were two Minicky car

1066
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: Minucky car Care Bowls. Yeah, I think one in North

1067
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Charlotte one and so it was like the Miynikee car

1068
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: Care Bowl of.

1069
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: Texas, I believe so.

1070
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always liked saying the San Diego Credit

1071
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: San Diego County Credit Union Point Setia Bowl, right right.

1072
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: That game was always weird too, Yeah, would it would

1073
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: sometimes it would be two G five schools would be

1074
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: like TCU and Boise State were both top twenty. Wasn't

1075
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: it playing on December twenty first? You remember the one

1076
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: year Navy was in it and it was all flooded out,

1077
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: completely flooded. Yeah, I love how much of a pos

1078
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: that stadium still to this day is I've been to

1079
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: at least two Holiday Bowls. The Oregon games against the

1080
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: Oklahoma schools. I think it was a reht Bomar year

1081
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: when or did not win. Whoa yeah, yeah, and it

1082
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: was the Oklahoma state year was a. It was a

1083
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: des year and that game was so damn fun. So

1084
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Speaker 1: that is a fun game. The Holiday Bowl, which obviously

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00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: still exists, there was a battle Frog sponsorship yep at

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00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: one point.

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00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: I want to say the Independence Bowl has had some

1088
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: really weird sponsors. Or they did the Duck Commander thing

1089
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. They had the pull in

1090
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: Weed Eater sponsorship before that. Yeah, they're searching for weird sponsors.

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: I do like that there have been Bowl games in

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00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: cities that were selected for whatever reason. That just I

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00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: remember Oregon was in the Seattle Bowl. Yeah, and Seattle

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00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: is a great place. I love my time in Seattle.

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00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: But if you're a Wake Forest fan, if you're a

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Minnesota fan, if you're a you know, Florida State fan,

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00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: you find out your team's going to Seattle in December,

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00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: I have a good TV.

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00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: It made no sense, all right, Uh, next topic, let's go.

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00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: We got two or three more questions here.

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00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Select whatever I mean. If the soliverbo sponsored a bowl,

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: which two teams need to participate? Obviously it's the solid

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Ver Bowl, so it's Notame Oregon. Is there a backup

1104
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: common nation of teams that you would just like to

1105
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: see play each other that traditionally will never play each other,

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00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: but would be forced to not necessarily this year, or

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: it could be this year. Sure, Texas, Texas, A and

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00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: M could be fun. I would say, yeah, I would

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00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: if we could re you know, a West Virginia pit game,

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: a Kansas Missouri game, if Kansas were decent, if we

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00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: could rejoin a rivalry that has been snapped, Yeah, that

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00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: would be pretty ideal. That'd be great. What would happen

1113
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: if a team with the elite talent ran the triple option? Oh?

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: I like this question, Ty, what's your answer? Let's let's

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00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: give it. Let's attack attach this to a Let's say

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Speaker 1: ALBA eighteen elite talent team, not Alabama, but some say Michigan. Okay,

1117
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: Michigan's running the triple.

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00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: Michigan's running the triple option.

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00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: So are you just stapling the triple option with this

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00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: year's team? Like they have Rashaan Gary and everybody else

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00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: on defense already that's loaded in. Because that's that's the

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00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: sort of problem with triple option teams and elite talent

1123
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: is it's hard to attract you know, you guys, I

1124
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: want to practice against it all the time. And offensively,

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00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: it's tough to find a quarterback who can throw when

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00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: needing to complete a pass when you're down five and

1127
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: nothing's happening on the ground late that's I mean, that's

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: that's why the triple option is great. To just bring

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00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: up your floor and bring up your ceiling, but it's

1130
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: crashing through the ceiling to me is the issue.

1131
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: This is why the Wildcat didn't have a longer lifespan

1132
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL, right, you know, like it was cool

1133
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: for a while and then teams figured it out and

1134
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, no big deal anymore.

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: Got to complete a pass, you got to give yourself

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00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: options out of formations. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just

1137
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: not an option guy. I've never been. Yeah. I think

1138
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: your Michigan season this year, with whoever running and maybe

1139
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Dylan McCaffrey is a little bit more mobile, I think

1140
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: it looks very similar that Michigan would hit that ten

1141
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: and two ceiling something like that ten and two, eleven

1142
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: and one, nine and three. Like, I think your floor

1143
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: certainly is higher, but you do need to put string

1144
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: together drives where you don't have a lot of time

1145
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: and you need to throw the ball down field, and

1146
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: then you get into defensive recruiting issues. So to me,

1147
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: that is you're still on the precipice of playoff, but

1148
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: not quite breaking through.

1149
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: Final question here, and I'm sending this one over to you,

1150
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: big guy.

1151
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: Okay, this one comes to us from Nick.

1152
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: He says we invented a new holiday on New Year's

1153
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: Day called dip a Palooza, the idea being that a

1154
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: never ending parade of dips is perfect for Bowl watching.

1155
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: What are your go to dips? Needs some new recipes

1156
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: for twenty nineteen? Dan, What do you got so you

1157
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: do something similar to this?

1158
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Right? For football competition? Food competition?

1159
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: I do something called a Super Bowl right where it's

1160
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: a soup off. Everyone cooks their favorite soup and then

1161
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: you vote on your favorite suits. But that's not a

1162
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, right, But I do something similar.

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00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: Do you have your soup chosen for twenty eighteen?

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: Actually, might go with the one that you told me up. Yeah,

1165
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: a lot as techa. I believe it's so as teca. Yeah,

1166
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: I didn't have to help me cook that. By the way,

1167
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I know how.

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00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh you'll be great.

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00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

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00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Dip a palooza is a wonderful idea because it's it

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00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: gives you options, maybe a triple option enough. I would

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I would home make some hummus, even Coca Cola is,

1173
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: even though they're slandering hummus all season long and they're dumb,

1174
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: dumb commercial, I would go hummus. I would go gualk.

1175
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I would like a red pepper type dip, like a

1176
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: puade red pepper, and you could play around with humm

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Speaker 1: I if you so choose. Is that the plural form

1178
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: of hummus? I would yeah, I mean I'm just making

1179
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, I love a bean dip tie and

1180
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: technically hummus is that, but like a multi layered bean dip,

1181
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: but it can wreak havoc. You have you have to

1182
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: choose your company wisely if you're going to go in

1183
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: on a bean dip. Yeah, I would just really master

1184
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: guak and I have I think I've said this before

1185
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: My secret to guak is pea shoots. No, that was

1186
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: like a New York Times awful thing. My secret is

1187
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll roast up a little bit of garlic because that

1188
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: gives it a little bit of sweetness and body. I'll

1189
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: tear it apart into little bits, and so that rounds

1190
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: out the acid and salt real nicely in aquak. And

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00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: I also chill the guak in a fridge before I

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00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: serve it. All right, do you have any dip ideas

1193
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: that you get very excited? I like a tetsiki. If

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: there's like a warm peda option.

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a taco dip tomorrow.

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: But hey, what's in it?

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00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: It's not nearly as sophisticated as any of the more

1198
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: gourmet options that I think you're discussing here. Mine just

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Speaker 2: entails mixing together some sour cream and cream cheese.

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00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, you mix it together. Yeah, mix

1201
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: it together. My stomach is already reacting poorly.

1202
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: You you layer the base of like a foil pan with that, okay,

1203
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Then on top of it you get just any your

1204
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: favorite kind of salsa port on top, and then you

1205
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: get taco cheese, like two bags of that taco cheese.

1206
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: Wow, and you sprinkle it on top, so are you

1207
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: melting it? And now you're not melt it?

1208
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: No? No, no, you get it cold and then you

1209
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: just get some scoops and and uh yeah, it's iuthentic Mexican.

1210
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: I love a French onion dip, real easy. Nobody ever

1211
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: hates on that. I think I saw some pre roll

1212
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: before a YouTube video for like a pizza ranch dip

1213
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: where they're a melting mozzarella over ranch and cream cheese

1214
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: and putting pet I just it's not doing it for me, ty,

1215
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: it's just not doing it for me to any other

1216
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: dips that you get excited about. Not much of a

1217
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: dalsas a dip. He'll make a salsa.

1218
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: No, not much of a dipper.

1219
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: How is that possible?

1220
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: Is?

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: Here's my question fundamentally, is buffalo chicken dip an actual

1222
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: dep or is it just stewed stewed chicken?

1223
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: Like?

1224
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: How much meat is? I feel like me, does it

1225
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 1: take for it to go over the top? I feel

1226
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: like it isn't. I think that's I think it's good. Yeah,

1227
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a dep I think it's

1228
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: just a filling in a bowl.

1229
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: All right, well, we covered some ground here on this podcast.

1230
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who wrote in with questions. We'll

1231
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: do our best to answer more over the course of

1232
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: the next days and weeks. Don't forget on Wednesday, gonna

1233
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: preview some more Bowl games and do our best, hopefully

1234
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: by the end of I guess next week to get

1235
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: through all the Bowl games so that you're ready. You've

1236
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: got some semblance of what's going to happen in these contests.

1237
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: We've got a bunch moving forward that we got to

1238
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: get through. I'm looking at the list here, only made

1239
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: a small dent in the totality of Bowl games.

1240
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: Yep, that is coming at you here over the next

1241
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: couple weeks.

1242
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: So by all means, please stay tuned to the verbal

1243
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: make sure that you are updating your confidence pools accordingly,

1244
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: sliding games around, mixing and matching, entering your winners. If

1245
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: you decide to change your mind, I've already changed my

1246
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: mind on a couple here. I'm about to just to

1247
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 2: the course of recording here, so we'll be back on Wednesday. Dan,

1248
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: thanks for waking up early with me here to record

1249
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: the show.

1250
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: For that go over there on.

1251
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Beautiful New York City for myself today a little bit, catch.

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Speaker 3: You all in a few days. Meantime, stay solid, Hi,