1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: We're going to get into this story again coming up 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: in a little while, but you ought to listen to 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: our one o'clock hour on the podcast, and it's about California. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: They want to pass the law. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: This is Scott Wiener out of San Francisco, so your 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: car can't drive more than ten miles an hour over 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: the speed limit. They want a speed governor on all 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: cars as of the twenty twenty seven model year. We 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: will get into that again later in the hour. Corbbin 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Carson was on with us in the one o'clock hour 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: as well, with a report about the trial the murder 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: of Aidan Leos, six years old sitting in the back 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: of his mom's car in Maya twenty one and mom 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: was cut off by a woman named Winnie Lee, and 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: the mother, Joanna Kloonan, gave the finger to Winnie Lee. 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Sitting next to her was Winnie's boyfriend, Marcus Arise, and 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: in retaliation a Reze pulled out a handgun and fired 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: a bullet at Joanna Klunan's car and it hit Joanna's 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: six year old son, Aiden Leos and killed him. Just terrible, 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: terrible story. There was a trial today and miraculously Marcus 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Aurez was convicted of second degree murder. And we have 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: the Orange County District Attorney, Todd Spitzer to talk all 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: about it. 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Todd, how are you? 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: I am ecstatic, John, as you can imagine, justice was 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: done today in Orange County. And I will tell you, John, 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: our jurors are pretty darn good down here. They don't 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: want to tolerate this kind of behavior. And they threw 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: the book at Marcus Arise. And second degree murder is 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: a big deal with the use of a gun that's 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: forty years to life. Compare to that, probably if this 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: had been tried in Los Angeles County, or the charge 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: has been brought by George Gascon, how different the outcome 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: would have been. 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Gascon would not have gone for second degree murder charges. 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm almost certain that. 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right, would not have done it. 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: The defense attorney is Randall Bethune, and he reduced Aresa's 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: responsibility to making a profound mistake. 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: I just was. I was just flabbergasted. 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: In fact, you know, occasionally KFI and our show we 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: appear in trials. Right, just mentioned at trials or there's 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: questions in the voi Dyer he actually said that the 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: reason that Ares was on the loose for two weeks 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: and nobody could find him and arrest him is well, 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't listen to KFI, noothers. He doesn't listen to 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: the news. He doesn't keep track of what's going on. 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: He wasn't really hiding after killing that kid. He just 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: doesn't listen to the news. 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Didn't see all the billboards that were lined on the 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: freeways going on his route to the auto body shop 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: up in Highland where he worked at the time. He 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: didn't see all those signs either. Right, they hid the car. 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: Let's not forget that they hid Whinny's car in Wittier, 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: so at some point they absolutely knew they were wanted. 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: And he didn't turn himself in. In fact, his attorney said, well, 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: how would he turn himself in? How would anybody know 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: how to turn yourself in? People don't know how to 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: turn themselves in. The worst part about the defensive argument, 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: the worst part John was he was trying to knock 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: it down from a murder to a voluntary manslaughter, which 64 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: would have significantly diminished the punishment. Right, So his argument is, 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: and to get voluntary manslaughter. The elements of that include 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: what an average person would do under the same set 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: of circumstances. And his argument is, we have so many 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: guns today, and there's so many many crazy people on 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: the freeway. It's really not unfathomable to believe that when 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: you get into a situation like this on the road, 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: that somebody might rashly pull out a gun and fire 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: it at another person for getting flipped off. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh, so that it was a reasonable response. 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: This is now the new standard of how we are 75 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: expected to behave that the criminal defense attorney wanted the 76 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: public jury to accept. And quite frankly, I don't know 77 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: if Oakland, or in San Francisco or Los Angeles a 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: jury would have bought that argument, but I can tell 79 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: you in Orange County we're holding strong and those jurors 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: rejected that argument outright. It was ridiculous. 81 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Well can you imagine, I mean, if flipping the bird 82 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: justifies a murder of a little kid, well, then if 83 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: you just shake your fist at somebody, if you make 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: any kind of a gesture, if you're going too slow 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: in the fast lane. I mean, anything that you do 86 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: to irritate another driver would be justification to plo out 87 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: a gun and blow the first guy away. 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: Now, but John, that argument think about Let's talk about 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: that in the bigger context of what George Gascone talks about, 90 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: or Chesa Bodine in San Francisco gone, or Pamela Price, 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: the DA and Oakland, their whole standards of holding people 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: accountable are no longer what you and I were raised 93 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: on when we were growing up. In other words, they 94 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: believe that the goalposts for society's expectations are so low 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: now that you deserve a voluntary manslaughter if you discharge 96 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: a firearm up four or five lanes of traffic and 97 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: kill somebody. This is what I'm just trying to tell 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: you is the public defender's argument to the jury is 99 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: consistent with how there's so many people right DA's across 100 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: the country are looking at the world today, Randall, I 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: will not accept it. You won't accept it. And I'm 102 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: telling you John, by us holding the line, we are 103 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: going to bring back society's expectations about people, about how 104 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: people need to behave. We cannot stop saying what we 105 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: say every single day. 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: Randall Bethune, the defense attorney, called it a profound mistake, 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: a momentary lapse of reason, a rash decision by a 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: young man. And he's a twenty four year old guy 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: who likes to play video games. I was a standard 110 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: that an attorney could do this with a straight face. 111 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I imagine this guy, Randall Bethune, knows better. 112 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: But this is when you sign up to be a 113 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: defense attorney. 114 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: You actually have to say that out loud in front 115 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: of other adults. 116 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: I will get I was in a lot of the trial. 117 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: I watched all the closing arguments. I will tell you 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: he did about as good a job as you can 119 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: do with this deck of cards that got dealt. But 120 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, at the end of 121 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: the day, irrespective of what he said, our prosecutor in 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: this case, Dan Feldman and his investigator Mike Hill, did 123 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: a terrific job of keeping the jury focused. And quite frankly, 124 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: my job, John, and what you do every day is 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: you keep the community focused for your listeners so they 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: don't drink the kool aid and we don't start accepting 127 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: this nonsense as our new standard for society. But just 128 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: to my job, go ahead. 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: No, No, I just wanted to say, just to follow up 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: when I was reading that it was a rash decision, 131 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: a lapse of reason. I heard you articulate very well 132 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: in one of the clips that Corbyn played before all 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: the decisions that Marcus Aureiz had to make before he 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: fired the bullet, because he had to reach over and 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: grab the gun right. 136 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: Not only did John he kept the gun behind Winnie's seat, 137 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: the driver's seat, because if you think about it, when 138 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: you're the passenger, it's easier to grab something from the 139 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: other person's seat. He kept the gun without a bullet 140 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: in the chamber, so he had ten rounds in the magazine, 141 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: but he kept it unloaded essentially, and that was because 142 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: he knows it's dangerous and it's right behind the back 143 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: of this girl he loves. He had to rack a 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: round to put the round from the magazine up into 145 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: the chamber, then he had to roll down his window, 146 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: then he had to take aim, and then he had 147 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: a fire. If that's not a deliberate act, which the 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: defense was saying, that's not deliberate, that's rash. That is calculated, deliberate. 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: Not only that John, he kept a gun in the 150 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: car for months, specifically because he's been so upset about 151 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: how people are driving. He was looking for a Joanne 152 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: Kloonan Joanna Klunen to do something like that to him, 153 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: that he could teach that personal lesson. He was waiting 154 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: for this moment. 155 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: It's just shocking. And now the girlfriend, what's her liability. 156 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: She's been charged with accessory after the fact. We can't 157 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: prove that she knew he was going to take the 158 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: gun and shoot it at a random car like that, 159 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: but certainly she was an accessory in that she helps 160 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: secrete him and keep him from the public, and she 161 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: helped him escape detection from law enforcement after she was 162 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: obviously very aware that he took a weapon, cocked around 163 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: into the chamber, fired it out a vehicle, and they 164 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: kept going, and she obviously knew at some point he 165 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: was wanted and she kept helping to secrete him. 166 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: Well, you tell Dan Feldman, congratulations, the senior deputy district 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: attorney who prosecuted the case. Congratulations to you. And I 168 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: think it comes not only from me but all the 169 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: normal people who listened to Kfire on our show, because 170 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: this is the way the world is supposed to work. 171 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: And it's gotten so distorted in recent years. It's really 172 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: refreshing to have a clearly guilty bad guy quickly put 173 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: away and convicted. 174 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate your nice words, and we're very pleased 175 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: with everything you say every day. Let's work together always 176 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: to keep the public on the straight and narrow. Let's 177 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: not give up on society. I will not give up 178 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: on our society. 179 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: John all right, excellent work, Todd, and excellent work, Dan Feldman. 180 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on. 181 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: We'll talk against John all right, my friend, Thank you, Baba. 182 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: The other case that we're going to get into next 183 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: is another, another one that should be slammed, dunk, open 184 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: and shut. It's Rebecca Grossman, the rich lady whose husband 185 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: founded the Grossman Burn Center. She ran down and killed 186 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: two little kids more than three years ago. And even 187 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: though the front end of her car was all bashed 188 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: in her defense attorney is saying, somebody else hit the kids. 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: We'll explain coming up. 190 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Coebelts on demand from KFI AM 191 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: six forty. 192 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, we just had Todd Spitzer on the Orange County 193 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: District Attorney and it was a brief ten minute trip. 194 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: It was kind of nostalgic into the world of normal. 195 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: And I remember you used to do these stories where 196 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: something would happen. It would be obvious what the crime was, obvious, 197 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: what the punishment was. You'd have the trial and the 198 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: right charge would be applied, the jury would find the 199 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: guy guilty, and now he's going to go away from 200 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: maybe forty years to life. And we're talking about Marcus 201 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Aurez who fired a gun at Joanna Klunan's car after 202 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: Joanna flipped him and his girlfriend the bird. The girlfriend 203 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: had cut Joanna off in traffic on the fifty five, 204 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: so Joanna flips the couple the bird, and Marcus Aurez 205 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: responds by firing a bullet into Joanna's car, killing Joanna's 206 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: son actually got a It was very important that this 207 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: wasn't just like some cheap shot. Very important to note 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: that it is very doubtful that if this happened in 209 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: La County, George gasconeoul have filed murder charges, second degree 210 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: murder charges. He would have said it was involuntary men 211 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: slaughter because Marcus a Reves did not wake up in 212 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: the morning wishing to kill little Aiden Leos. It was 213 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: not in his plan that day. It was just a 214 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: momentary surge of adrenaline and passion, which you know was 215 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: kind of the argument from the idiot defense attorney. But no, 216 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: he got convicted. He's gone to jail for decades, maybe 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: for life. Now another case, which is, you know, heading 218 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: into wacko land perhaps, and it depends. I don't know 219 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: who the jurors are here. Well, we do know there 220 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: are nine men, nine women, and three men. And this 221 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: is the case from three years ago. Jacob and Marcus Scander, 222 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: an eight year old and eleven year old, were crossing 223 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: the street with their mother, and as she was crossing 224 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: the street with them, she heard the roar of approaching engines, 225 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: and flying through the intersection was Rebecca Grossman, a wealthy 226 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: woman who is married to the doctor who founded the 227 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: Groan Burn Center in the valley, and a very attractive, 228 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: very wealthy, blonde woman, and she had been drinking that 229 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: afternoon with a guy that she may have been dating, 230 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: Scott Ericsson, former Los Angeles dodger Pitcher. They had had 231 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: a couple of drinks and then they went in their cars, 232 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: their SUVs, and they were driving over eighty miles an hour. 233 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: Rebecca struck the children, and then her car continued on 234 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: for at least a quarter of a mile before it 235 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: shut down. Now, before I tell you what the defense is, 236 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this clear. She had massive front end 237 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: damage to her suv massive, and witnesses said she hit 238 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: the two boys. Her lawyers are going to try to 239 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: confuse the durwors from what I'm reading and try to 240 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: tell them the car was one of many vehicles that 241 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: passed through the crosswalk and that the police are making 242 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: a mistake focusing on her. You believe this, she's the 243 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: one with the bashed in front end and this is 244 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: another case of don't believe what your eyes see. Listen 245 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: to my nonsense. This attorney Tony Buzby man, how did 246 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: it's people? I guess have absolutely no conscience. How the 247 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: hell if your client has a all this front end damage, 248 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: can you possibly claik? 249 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: No, really, it was somebody else. 250 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: In fact, they're trying to create confusion that there were 251 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: many cars going through the intersection, so who knows who 252 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: hit the boys? But there our witnesses who Busby says 253 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: he has witnesses, It will testify that multiple cars hit 254 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: the two boys. That Grossman's vehicle is not the first. Now, 255 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: how many times could the boys possibly be hit multiple cars? 256 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: She's got the front end damage because if you hit 257 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: the boys first of all, they're going to fly out 258 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: down the road and very quickly they'll be flat on 259 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: the ground. Maybe multiple cars can run them over, but 260 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: multiple cars cannot possibly hit them upright. And if you 261 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: don't hit the boys upright, you're not going to end 262 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: up with front end damage. Wasn't too hard to dismantle that. 263 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: And I haven't even looked at all the evidence. But 264 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: this is what Busby's going to try to to the jury, 265 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: and the trial starts tomorrow. 266 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, if this really is what plays out, they're just 267 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: making stuff up. 268 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: But maybe that worked. By the way, Grossman had some 269 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: alcohol in her system. It was a point zero seven 270 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: to six. The legal limit is point zero eight. Then 271 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: they took a blood sample that was a breathalyzer. They 272 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: took a blood sample three hours later and she was 273 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: at point oh eight. So if that blood sample is 274 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: accurate after three hours, point oh eight, so she must 275 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: have been point one to oh or point one two. 276 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: Uh So I don't think she had just you know, 277 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: two drinks. She might have had four or five drinks, 278 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: and I wonder she was because she was racing Scott Erickson. 279 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: According to the witnesses. So far he's been cleared, although 280 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: the attorney is trying to blame him as well. When 281 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: we come back, this stuff is important. If you weren't 282 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: listening earlier, we're gonna explain again about the terrible law 283 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: that idiot San Francisco State Senator Scott Wieners trying to pass. 284 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: He wants to make it so starting to twenty twenty seven, 285 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: any car you buy will have a what they call 286 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: a speed governor installed, so your car can't go more 287 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: than ten miles an hour past the speed limit. Seriously, 288 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: and we're gonna get this stopped. We're gonna get this 289 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: snuffed out. This bill is still born. We got work 290 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: to do here. 291 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 292 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: And we had much good stuff in the show. Too 293 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: much to go through here. I don't want to waste 294 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 2: any time. But just whatever you missed today, go listen 295 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: to it on the podcast tonight Conway, coming up after 296 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: four four o'clock. 297 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: We earlier had on. 298 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: We did some stuff on the California State Senator Scott Wiener. 299 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: We had Jake Bieberan from the National Motorists Association. 300 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: This is serious. 301 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: This is really going to be a huge issue for 302 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: I think most normal people. As of twenty twenty seven, 303 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: if Scott Wiener's bill passed passes, it would require any 304 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: new car or truck made or sold in the state 305 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: to have something called a speed governor on This is 306 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: a limiter, which means if you try to drive ten 307 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: or more miles per hour over the posted speed limit, 308 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: the car would automatically prevent you from doing so. So 309 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 2: let's say you're in a fifty five highway, couldn't go 310 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: more than sixty five, the car would. 311 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: Start to push back on you. 312 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: And debor you might want to articulate again, how would 313 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: you feel if you were being chased by somebody and 314 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: you can't speed away. 315 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: I'd be so furious. I mean, because again, this is 316 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 5: for new cars only, right, So if I'm driving my 317 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: new car and somebody is driving an older car and 318 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 5: they're chasing me, I'm not going to be able to 319 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: get away from them. 320 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: No, You're gonna get run off the road. Right. 321 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: Oh that's really safe. 322 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what every woman in California wants right. 323 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: Here is a new story to lay out the details. 324 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: This is from ABC seven News Bay Area. Cut three. 325 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 6: Senator Scott Wiener has introduced a new set of bills 326 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 6: aimed at making streets safer across the state, and one 327 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: of those would change how you drive. It would require 328 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: any new car or truck made or sold in the 329 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: state to have special technology installed in the car called 330 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 6: speed governors. The device would make it this impossible for 331 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 6: vehicles to go ten miles per hour over the posted 332 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: speed limits. Another part of the measure would require large 333 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: trucks to install side guards to prevent pedestrian, cyclists, or 334 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 6: other vehicles from getting sucked underneath the truck during a crash. 335 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: Wiener says the bills are common sense actions to protect 336 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 6: public safety. A woman whose mother was permanently injured while 337 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 6: crossing the street in San Francisco says she supports the change. 338 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: Dangerous reading just for our lives. 339 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 7: Speed to the number one cause of severe and fatal 340 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 7: crashes in San Francisco and in California, and dangerous reading 341 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 7: is on the rise. Vehicles are bigger and more powerful 342 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 7: every day, but jest fans become innocent carnage and collateral damage. 343 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 8: I think if you asked anyone, do people need to 344 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 8: be driving more than ten miles an hour over the 345 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 8: speed limit, assuming you're not an emergency vehicle, which are 346 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 8: example from the bill, I think a vast majority of 347 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 8: people would say no. I don't want people driving more 348 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 8: than ten miles an hour over the speed limit in 349 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 8: my neighborhood. 350 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 6: Jens on state owned roads to protect pedestrian, cyclists and 351 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: those who rely on public transit. 352 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 5: A similar bill was. 353 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: Vetoed by Governor Newsom back in twenty nineteen in order 354 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: to give Caltrans a chance to do this work on 355 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 6: its own, But five years later, Wiener says he still 356 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 6: hasn't seen much progress, and the bill is introduced this week, 357 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 6: are expected to head to committee sometime in the spring. 358 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 6: Live in San Francisco, Lena Howland ABC's seven. 359 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: US Boil Boy. 360 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: That's an example of left wing progressive propaganda media, isn't it. 361 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: You get the lady whose mother was run over, and 362 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: now we don't know the circumstances of that particular accident, 363 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: but now none of us can drive more than ten 364 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: miles over the speed limit, even if we're in some 365 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: kind of a dangerous situation, even if there's some kind 366 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: of condition that would require us to And do you 367 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: want to be driving a car that could only go 368 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: fifty five on a highway and everybody else is going 369 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: seventy because they have an older model. 370 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: No, you're trying to get onto the freeway. You're putting right, 371 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 5: You're trying to get up there to keep with the 372 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: speed of traffic. 373 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, nor your roadkill. That's what Jay Bieber said, is 374 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: like one of the biggest dangers. And this is what 375 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: I think just driving all my life. Most dangerous thing 376 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: on the road is a car going way too slow. Yes, 377 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: on a freeway because you're not expecting it. You run 378 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: up on them and then you got a gem on 379 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: the brake and skid or you gotta swerve around. 380 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 5: That happens to me every day on the way home 381 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 5: in the same place on the freeway. I don't understand it. 382 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: And what they're talking about, this increase in people being 383 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: run over. I tell you, I read the research. I 384 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: looked at the map. It's because in the cities there's 385 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: so many homeless people stumbling around that it looks as 386 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: if from the research I saw that as it starts 387 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: getting dusky late in the afternoon early evening, and that's 388 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: when homeless activity is at a height. They haven't passed 389 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: out yet. They are stumbling, living, arguing, drinking in the streets, 390 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: and that's when they're getting run over. 391 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: And that's what caused the increase. 392 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: It's because the likes of Scott Wiener and Garcetti allowed 393 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: so many people to stumble around into the streets. And 394 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: I'd been to San Francisco and let me tell you, 395 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: if you drive through, where do we We were driving 396 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: through just past Union Union Square about a year and 397 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: a half ago, and my wife and I were driving. 398 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: It was on it was on sixth and there were 399 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: so many drug addicted zombie vagrants stumbling around in the 400 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: street in between the cars on the sidewalks. They were 401 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: living on the furniture on the sidewalks. We were all 402 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: terrified because we were trapped in traffic. We couldn't we 403 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: couldn't leave. If one of those guys jumped on our car, 404 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 2: start pounding on the windshield, or if they had a 405 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: gun who was trying to get We're dead. And I 406 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: because they allowed those people on the street, those people 407 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: end up getting run over. Usually as it's getting dark 408 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: or in the dark, and then if a bad guy comes. 409 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, imagine you stopped at a light and one 410 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: of these crazy people that Scott Weener allows on the streets. 411 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: You can't speed to get away from. 412 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: Him, no way. 413 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: You cut somebody off and they get mad. And I 414 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: mentioned before this happened, that happened to us twice. Well 415 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: once my wife may have cut someone off. They got 416 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: mad and they chased us. They chased us through neighborhood streets. 417 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: Might have is the key, Yeah, she probably did. 418 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 5: What Still, that's no reason you shouldn't. I mean, come on, 419 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 5: but you know what, we're allowed to get frustrated. Doesn't 420 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: mean that we need to be killed. 421 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Right exactly. Get we don't need to get the death penalty, 422 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: and we don't. 423 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: Have the state. 424 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: We don't shouldn't have the state restricting our movement. I mean, 425 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: that is so freaking nuts. Now, Jay Bieber has an idea, 426 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and we're going to set a date in a time, 427 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: and everybody in the audience to call Scott Wiener's office 428 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: and also other people on that committee all at the 429 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: same time. I mean, but we have stopped other stupid 430 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: traffic ideas because most of the public hates all this 431 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: progressive nonsense. Remember, their ideas are bad, they don't work, 432 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: they're no good. Who the hell would buy a twenty 433 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: twenty seven car? 434 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: Right? Hey? 435 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, this car is designed for a 436 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: record low peak speed. 437 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 5: What about a Porsche or a Lamborghini Maserati. 438 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna buy. 439 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 5: One of those, and you can't go over sixty five. 440 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: It destroys those sales and so. 441 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: And you see in the real world on Saturday and 442 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: Sunday mornings, you can get around pretty quickly on the 443 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: freeway because everybody's flying. They're going eighty eighty five miles there. 444 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: Nobody's getting hurt. That's not where the where the accidents are. 445 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: Everybody's keeping up with the speed, and everybody's gonna be 446 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: puttering along going going fifty five sixty five miles an hour. 447 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Scott Wiener is so interesting, is he? 448 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: Ever? It feels like he's been around for my whole life. 449 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: Not that there aren't ten other guys just like him, 450 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: but man, he is particularly irritating. Who made him a 451 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 2: president of the Communist Party to lord over our freedoms 452 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: and get in the way. 453 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Of our lives? Why not jackass. All right, more coming up. 454 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 455 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: six forty. 456 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Well, listen to this. Listen to this boy. If you 457 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: have a business in Oakland, you just got to get 458 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: out of there. In Oakland, there is a man named 459 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: Andres Flores. He is the owner and chef of Snail Bar, 460 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: very popular restaurant in Oakland. And of course because he 461 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: works for living as a businessman, probably works long hours. 462 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: If he's the owner and the chef, he goes home 463 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: to get some sleep and two guys show up in 464 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: ski masks and break through the front door. 465 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: It's a wine bar. 466 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: They ransacked the restaurant, take money and they ran off. Now, 467 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: of course they had to smash their way in and 468 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: that caused a lot of damage to the front building 469 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: plus the money stolen. Total cost sixty four hundred dollars. 470 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: This happened in the middle of the night, very early 471 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and if you looked at the surveillance footage, 472 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: there's a video of two male suspects smashing the front door, 473 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: then smashing the door to the back room and stealing 474 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: a safe with two thousand dollars in cash. Okan police 475 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: officials actually show up and they boarded up the building. 476 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: They couldn't make contact with the owner because it's the 477 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: middle of the night. He was probably a sleep, not 478 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: answering his phone. Andrea's Flora said. He finally showed up 479 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: about four a m. Not long after the police left, 480 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: and noticed that they had put up a very shoddy 481 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: UH security measure. They boarded it up with a piece 482 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: of wood secured with duct tape. UH. The Oakland Police 483 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: Department had requested a board up because they couldn't contact 484 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: the owner to keep it secure, so they declared it 485 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: secure after getting duct tape and tape tape the wooden 486 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: board to the front. But what makes this galling is 487 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: that Andres Flores then got a bill for the wooden 488 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: board for the city services. 489 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: He got an in. 490 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: He got it good, He's getting an invoice. It was 491 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: a note that said the invoice would be arriving in 492 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: the coming days for their services, meaning the Department of 493 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Public Works that had supplied the wooden board and the 494 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: duct tape. And as Flores said, I was literally left 495 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: a bill for getting robbed. He closed his other wine 496 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: bar in August after his car was set on fire 497 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: in front of the restaurant. So he's got two wine bars, 498 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: but his car was set on fire at his other business, 499 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: so we closed that down. He's got one restaurant left. 500 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: Two looters break in steal thousands of dollars, and the 501 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: city responds by leaving him a notice that you're going 502 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: to get billed. The invoice could range from six hundred 503 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: to fifteen hundred dollars. Flora says he's called the contact 504 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: number numerous times, but he's not getting a response. They 505 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: didn't even secure the door. I didn't give them permission 506 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: to do that job. This is a cartoon of a city. 507 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: A spokesperson for the City of Oakland, some idiot named 508 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Sean Maher said, invoicing for the service is performed consistent 509 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: with the city's master fee schedule, and besides, it's covered 510 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: by property insurance. So hey, we're stealing money here and 511 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: the insurance company's gonna pay it. So what are you 512 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: complained about? This is what Oakley does. They put up 513 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: a board with duct tape, charge you fifteen hundred dollars 514 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: and say, I don't worry about your insurance will cover it. 515 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: That's theft. 516 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: Because the owner didn't answer his phone at four in 517 00:30:51,920 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: the morning. I now this comes just a few days 518 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: after In and Out for the first time in its history, 519 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: is closing one of its restaurants. It had been broken 520 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: into too many times in Oakland. In fact, in the 521 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: vicinity of that In and Out burger, they've had thirteen 522 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five incidents since twenty nineteen, including eleven 523 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy four car break ins just in the 524 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: immediate neighborhood. First time in history, In and Out closing 525 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: down in Oakland. I think that wine bar owner is 526 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: probably not long for Oakland either. Godways, here, thank you. 527 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: You know what, here's a crazy stat They had more 528 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 9: break ins since twenty nineteen at that In and Out 529 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 9: than they had messed up orders through the drive through 530 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 9: True Stars, True. 531 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: Star, you get these statistics. I never seen this. I 532 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: know guys that didn't out. 533 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 9: So Hi Barbara Lee, I believe it was her name 534 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 9: running for a Senate Yes, so she represents Oakland. Oakans 535 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 9: lost the first In and Out in seventy five years. 536 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 9: They lost the Raiders. Yeah, they lost the A's or 537 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 9: losing the. 538 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Air the Warriors. The Warriors moved across the street. 539 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 9: So why should be she be Senator, wouldn't you crawl 540 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 9: into a you know, a one bedroom apartment and just 541 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 9: hide from everybody if that was if that was your resume, 542 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 9: Is that amazing? 543 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: There's no shame. It is shocking. 544 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: And she runs from mayor and and if you criticize her, 545 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: she starts screaming at you like Steve Garvey got into 546 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: it with her, and she just starts shrieking. It's like, 547 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: this is this is I don't know what. It's something 548 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: with the with the people in Oakland. 549 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: It's it's all. 550 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 9: It's not just Oakland's everywhere now, it's every every time 551 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 9: I turn on the local news, there's five more restaurants 552 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 9: and five more stores have been broken into, and the 553 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 9: only time we see them on TV is when there's 554 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 9: video of it. How many stores store has been broken 555 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 9: in where there is no video? 556 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: You know? Oh, I know? Every night going on right now? 557 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: Go on tonight. A lot of crimes aren't even reported anymo. 558 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 9: Blake Trolley's gonna come on and talk about the expansion 559 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 9: of the Burbank Airport. Kleinas Strinos is coming on with 560 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 9: us to talk about the Burbank Airport. And then we 561 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 9: have Dean sharp coming on with us as well. 562 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: That's cool. 563 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 9: He's talking about the burbankreport. A lot of Burbank Airport. Oh, 564 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 9: that's gonna be fascinating. You're gonna expand, it's gonna beautiful. 565 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 9: You know, buy a house in Burbank and don't sell 566 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 9: it's be worth five million dollars. 567 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Well, you have a conflict of interest. Uh. 568 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Conway's next. Kruzher has the news live in the Cafe 569 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt 570 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 571 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: KFI Am six forty from one to four pm every 572 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand on 573 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app.