WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: The Eilean Mor Lighthouse Mystery 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.960 Thinking Sideways. I don't just stories of things we simply 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.600 don't know the answer too. Well. Hi there, and then 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.279 welcome once again to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I'm 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.440 Joe and I'm joined by Steve. Okay, and Joe is 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:36.520 doing is William Chattner voice? I was thinking voice would 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:42.800 be like, and this is Thinking Sideways podcast? Yeah, okay, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.199 So anyway, let's let's get right down to it. And 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.120 by the way, before we started with today's unsolved mystery, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.360 we get a little happy celebration, a little happy occasion. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.000 I guess to celebrate. I guess that's what I meant 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.520 to say. Yeah, okay, anyway, it's more better. This is 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.440 our one year anniversary. I maintain it was last year 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.200 last week. No, yeah, this is our fifty third episode. Therefore, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:10.160 this is one year. Is there going to be cake? Uh? Yeah, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.680 we already ate it. We got here before you did, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.880 so it was a lie. Yeah, and we got one 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.760 from you know, the ice cream cakes from Basket and 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.440 Robbins because it's so hot out it was awesome? Are 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:25.000 you lying? It was just yeah, and the and the commissary. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:26.800 We do have a little bit of Sherbett in the freezer. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.479 If great, I'll take it on a daylight today, Yeah, 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.480 I will take Yeah. It's actually we've got the A 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.320 C turned off in the studio here because it's a 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.480 little noisy, and so we're swaltering degree. He has not 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.720 enjoined this. We're gonna talk really fast to get this 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.639 over whistle to turn the A C back on. Okay, 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.880 so let's dive right into this and saw us a 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.960 mystery today we're going to talk about. It's a mystery 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.560 that's kind of like a ghost ship. You remember the 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.680 Mary Celeste kind of creepy thing and Joe's wheelhouse totally. Yeah, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.480 well this is like a ghost shift, except it's a 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.880 ghost island. Who uh so, Yeah, these people are showing 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.120 up expecting other people to be there because they're supposed 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.880 to be there, and they've disappeared and the place is 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:15.360 completely deserted. Creeper what that would actually kind of creep 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.600 me out, and I think and some of the people 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.560 that actually actually were involved with this were just a 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.640 little creeped out. But so these people disappeared and to 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.120 this day, no one has a clue what happened to them. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.359 And I say to this day, because of course this 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.639 is the day, we're going to solve the riddle. Yeah, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.960 I know. So the people who disappeared were the lighthouse 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.960 keepers at ellan Moore. I'm sure some of you maybe 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.280 have heard of this. Maybe. Ellen Moore is a is 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.880 an island about thirty nine acres. It's the largest of 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.280 the largest of the flanting islands or flanting isles. I 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.400 guess you would say the Scottish in the isles. Yeah, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.600 that's the flatting aisles. Where's your accent the flant and 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.760 I don't know how to know. Yeah, So the flanting 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.640 aisles are in the Outer Hebrides, and which means that 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.960 like there are sort of northwest of northwest Scotland, and 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.600 the Outer Hebrides are even more outer than that, even 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.960 more northwest, so they're they're kind of isolated in this 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.560 little chunk of rock thirty nine acres. Yeah, it's just 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.640 just out there in the middle of nowhere. But it 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.519 was like kind of a kind of a rough neighborhood 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.359 for ships and stuff like that, and there were shipwrecks 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.320 out there. So they started to build a lighthouse in 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.360 the eight and because it was so rough building on 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.799 this particular little rock, they didn't open up for business 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.919 until eighteen, so it took him four years, looking four 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.440 years to build a simple little lighthouse. While it was 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.200 it was a fairly I mean, I think it was 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.120 an interesting construction of the lighthouse. Oh yeah, I mean 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.160 it's not just the lighthouse. But they had to like 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.480 get all this crap like out of the water in 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.960 these heaving North Atlantic seas, you know, and and drag 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.120 it off on shore. And they had to build stairways 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.680 and a little railway to hall supplies with all the 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.160 way up to the peak of the island to build 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.360 the lighthouse on it. It was, it was. It was 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.600 just a normal lighthouse. There wasn't anything nothing special about 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.560 It was just just a stack stone lighthouse about seven 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.520 pretty standard, yeah, pretty standard. And then of course I 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.000 had the attached the lighthouse keepers quarters, which is like 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:11.840 in a small little building like you'd expect typical little lighthouse. Yeah. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.600 And so anyway, there were it was. It was manned 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.960 by three people. Are three guys, I should say, uh, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.200 and the three guys In December of nineteen hundred hundred, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.000 fourteen years ago, the three guys disappeared without a trace, 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.359 and nobody knows why. So what's the story here. Come on, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.560 you're you're you're giving me a cliffhanger here, and that's 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.039 not okay. You gotta you gotta fill in the missing details. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:40.560 So for pictures, visit our website. Yeah, send us an email. Yeah. Anyway, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:42.920 So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna cut to the chase. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.560 It was a it was an ocean going jetty. Cut 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.960 it out, cut it out, all right. So the first 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.640 clue that something was wrong was on the night of 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.960 December fifteen, nineteen hundred, the steamship SS Arc Tour in 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.560 some versions of the story say the Archer. But I've 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.920 heard it as an Arc tour. I've seen, I've seen 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.800 both ways. Yeah, so I passed through the island and 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.760 I was expecting to see the light, but the light 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.800 was not on when they actually when they arrived in 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.159 their import, they reported it, but apparently whoever at the 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.320 port they reported it too, didn't pass it along to 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.480 the Northern Lighthouse Board where it was the shipping companies 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:23.560 who they Yeah, yeah, apparently they didn't report it. Somebody 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:28.320 was lazy. Yeah, we've all been there. Yeah, I've had 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.680 a nickel for every time I slacked at work. Well, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.080 you know, I've got style Twitter to look at. I'm 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.400 not I'm not filing this TPS report. Yes, yes, Steam Twitter. Yeah, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.920 you know, I forgot because I'm busy hauling boxes off 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.320 of this ship and somebody in passing was like, oh, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.480 it's kind of weird that this light was out. Yeah, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.800 and You're like, okay, fifty pounds of manure on top 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.599 of me. But they had correct me if I'm wrong. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.600 I swear. I remember when I was reading about the 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.400 ship that reported it, they said they did it via wireless. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.960 I've heard it both ways. And did they have wireless communication? 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.279 Did they had radio technology at the point right, Yeah, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.840 like a telegram? Yeah, I've heard it both ways. One 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.919 of the one in most of the stories that I 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:16.839 see he'd waited till portant to report this, and I questioning. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.039 I was questioning the day and age, how many ships 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.360 would have a radio But yeah, I don't know. I'm 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.039 sure it wasn't. Not every ship had, and I'm sure yeah, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.480 but I don't think he was that far up from 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.840 port either than maybe a day or something like that. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.040 Uh So. Also they also, by the way, I didn't 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.320 know this until I started researching this story, but apparently 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.320 the old days in the lighthouses, they would hire somebody 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.080 who was who lived on the coast to actually watched 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.640 the lighthouse to a telescope. I mean not seven, but 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.839 he would. His job was to basically check on a 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.920 periodically and make sure the light was burning. And they 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.719 had actually hired a gamekeeper on the on the closest 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.360 island to keep an eye on things. And he reported 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.560 he in his log that he hadn't seen it on 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.479 certain days, but again the weather was so heavy that 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:10.200 they were it was like twenty miles away. So well, 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.360 And I think a thing to point out to everybody 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.320 here is this is not a modern lighthouse. This is 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:21.000 a wick with mirrors around it to shine light. And 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.840 I think correct me if I'm wrong, Joe. But wasn't 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.000 it It shown about twenty miles I don't remember the 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.560 kind of power, but it showed out to see it 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.760 about you can see it about twenty miles away on 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.239 a clear night, and it was really interesting. Is the 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.640 the lens system that they use, I want to say 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.040 it was a French design, yeah, and it and it 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.280 was set up in a way that it had eight 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.200 panels so that it would have a long arc and 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.120 a short burst as it went around in the course 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.400 of a minute, so in a minute, you would get 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.480 eight flashes, so that you knew that that was a lighthouse, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.120 and that was how you identified that particulcular lighthouse, because 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.760 each one was slightly different, so that if I was 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.200 a hundred miles farther down the coast, that lighthouse would 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.720 have a different pattern, so I knew where I was 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.880 in the dark. Yeah, it's a pretty ingenious little system. Yeah, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.240 And I think about those fresnels, the lenses. I don't 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.000 know if you've ever been to a real lighthouse and 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.120 seeing those things. They're huge. I mean they're huge lenses 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.800 and very elaborate. If you go to the coast, the coast, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.960 the coast, we've got some white houses down there, and 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.080 you see some of them down there. But we can't 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.880 make those things today. We don't. I mean, we don't 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.079 have the craftsmanship, the craftsmanship and the tools to make 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.440 those things anymore. I have seen the Bob the builder 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.200 where they have to replace the mirror in the limp 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:46.080 little so that kind of like perfect allegory. Yeah, I think, Yeah, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.120 I go to uh, I want us really close by 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.079 as to Cape Mer's lighthouse on the coast, and unfortunately, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.880 a couple of what's the word I'm thinking of, you know, jerks, jerks, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:05.320 jerks not nice people? Yeah, bozos yeah, perfect, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.120 They shot it up but it's still mostly intact. But 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.120 they still busted it up pretty good. And it's like, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.079 you know, dude, that was like a hundred year old 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.560 piece of glass. More than that, I think. Yeah, those darks, yeah, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.800 those what thung darks? I'm just trying to make up 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:30.200 a word that sounds appropriately offensive. Yeah, anyway, you guys go, yeah, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.520 go check that out. Those lenses are pretty interesting. They're 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.600 pretty cool. Well, anyway, so back to our story. They 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.680 had a guy on shore watching. He noted that he 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.960 hadn't seen it, but again, it had heavy weather, so 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.720 he wasn't sure if he wasn't seeing because he had 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.040 actually not seen it on nights when it was still burning. Okay, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.480 so wait they had there was heavy weather. Yeah, I 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.560 feel this is important to the continuation of the story. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.840 So there had been heavy weather. Yeah, I mean, this 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.440 is like the North Atlantic in December in the wintertime. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.760 It's a very lot. It's that this the latitude of 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.440 this is approximably fifty eight degrees north. Yeah, so I 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.959 just want to clarify for where this story is going. Yeah, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.840 there was, in fact bad weather, Yeah, intermittent bad weather. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.520 It wasn't constant bad weather the entire I just wanted 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.120 to be sure, making you wonder why people would want 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.600 to live up there. You said it was fifty eight 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.640 degrees degrees north. Yeah, I'm trying of I'm trying to 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.600 think of like a major city or landmark that we 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.920 could equate that too for people to think about it 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.960 on the globe and Vancouver, BC. Yeah, I think Vancouver 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.400 is not that not nearly that far enough, not far enough. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.880 So it's farther than than Vancouver, British Columbia. Yeah, it's 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:46.040 up there. So how many miles in a degree? Well, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:52.880 we're about about which is just south of us. Yeah, um, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.760 so where are we at, like forty nine maybe even 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.520 that are even that far wen something like that, so 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.640 that Vancouver is kind of I'm just thinking about to 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.680 equate it to the West coast in the East Coast, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.640 I mean, that's that's way north of Massachusetts probably, you know. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.280 And then I don't even know where to equate it 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.960 on the European But it's it's pretty far. Just to 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.079 give you an idea, I checked. I just happened to 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.880 check today and I did a little google on sunset 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.480 time and I found it. I found a town on 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.160 the on the club in Scotland that's basically just due 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.280 east of this island. It's about fifty degrees and what 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.680 what And I looked at the sunset time for today, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.960 ten thirty three in the evening. It's one of the sunsets, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.320 so it may be kind of like Alaska. It's kind 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.160 of like it's so it's way up there then, so 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.680 this is almost subarctic. Yeah, and that's and and of 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.040 course in the wintertime, and this this took place in 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:56.560 December day it's still some pretty cruddy weather. Yeah. Okay, 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.920 well that's that's good context to know. That's what I 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.040 was trying to try get a handle on. So any 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.800 way back to our story here, So the crew working 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.640 in the lighthouse, again, I said there were three guys. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.720 They were named James Ducat, who was and I had 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.440 sorry for his errors. If i'm his errors, If I'm mispronouncing, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.720 it's probably Ducatt. It could be Ducat. Let's probably something 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:24.760 even more for Ducatt. Donald McArthur and Thomas Marshall. So 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.559 Ducatt was the head lighthouse keeper, so he was a 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.960 boss man. Marshall was the second lighthousekeeper, and then Donald 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.800 McArthur was referred to as an occasional, which meant that 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.440 he didn't do it. It's full time and the other guys. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.440 I guess the According to the story, the report got 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.559 in to the to the authorities that the lighthouse was out, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.000 but the weather was too bad to actually take a 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.920 ship out to check on it, so it took eleven 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.880 days before they could make the crossing to investigate. Um. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.800 The official record says that no, they had no idea 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.320 that the why I had even been out. They just 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.640 desperus was going on in a regular mission to um 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.520 take a guy out for to relieve one of the 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.360 members of the crew and take supplies out. Yeah. Yeah, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.000 so yeah, I mean the official record, you know, because 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.880 I read all the stories that were out there, and 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.280 there's a lot of kind of melodramatic stuff about you. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.240 Oh my god, they were beside themselves with worry about that. Yeah, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.600 because that's that's most of the stories that I see, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.120 And I have a feeling that the age of this 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.880 story there's a lot of embellishment. Oh yeah, yeah, so, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.240 um so, actually they were just on a regularly scheduled trip. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.680 They were supposed to go out and just and on 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.480 a relief And you were able to find that official report. Yeah, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.480 that's on the Northern Lighthouse Boards website. Actually, they still exist, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.400 they're still here. They still they have a website and 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.000 they published some documents related to this incident, which we'll 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.559 talk about in a few minutes. So anyway, so they 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.040 showed up without a clue that the light hasn't even 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.520 been out, but according to the story, they were dreadfully worried. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.240 The crew of the light house should have been expecting 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.840 relief and they should have had the relief flag flying, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.400 and they would it would be expected that they would 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.760 have boxes down the landing to be refilled with supplies 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.320 and truck back up because and I probably didn't mention this, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.280 um maybe I did. They had besides stairways, they had 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.360 a little railway line. It was steam power day, had 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.120 a steam powered engine up in the main hot warehouse 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.200 or the main lighthouse, so that basically, through a series 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.880 of cables and pulleys would would let these carts down 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.040 and drag them back up put the supplies, and so 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.560 they probably would have had that little steam car, steam 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.880 powered car waiting down there, would be loaded up with supplies. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.280 They're kind of creepy little rails now at this point there, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:38.880 you know, super abandoned railway desolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.600 you noticed like they built right next to it, they 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.480 built a stairway. And if you look at the there's 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.160 pictures out there in the web of some of these 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.560 things as they exist today. And so you had to say, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.680 there's curving down steeply and there's a stairway on the 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.240 outside on the cliff side of it. What's to me, 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:02.400 I would have put the stairway on the overboard. I 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.800 don't want to. Yeah, yeah, but they put this the stairway, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.840 and you know, and and the photos the stairway has 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.880 no handrail, yeah, and it's pretty steep, and it's like 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.920 right next to a big old cliff. Yeah. So yeah, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.840 it's like I'd be very very carefully going up and 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.640 down that thing. Uh So. Anyway, so they're expecting that 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.480 they're expecting these guys, at least one of the members 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.200 of the crew to be down there on this landing 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.280 that there's a landing not too far above sea level 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.880 where the boat ties up to, and they would expect 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.000 those guys because I mean it's a big event for them. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.320 I mean, you've been on this think for like a 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.760 month without any human contact. Three guys. These guys are 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.360 bringing the supplies and bringing the mail. Didn't didn't I swear, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.280 And this might be the more fanciful tellings, but I 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.240 swore that there was time. There was something in it 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.960 about how they had to grow some of their own food. Yeah, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.720 on the you know, they their own garden basically, Yeah, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.760 they they had to have aless supposed that. I've heard 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.400 accounts that say that they had to do that too. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.960 They had to raise animals and yea, and everything they 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.360 cheap and whatnot. Yeah, So I have no idea if 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.560 that standard up rating procedure for these guys are not. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.640 It seems like I'll just throw this out there on 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.800 a kind of small rock right essentially off Scotland where 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.880 the weather is often awful. You're not going to raise 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.960 animals because they're going to blow away, I mean, or 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:24.040 otherwise there's a you know, I mean, that's the sort 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.640 of thing you don't necessarily do, especially when the technology 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.480 exists for you know, salted and cured meat, which isn't 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.360 as good. But you know, if the if the weather 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.360 is nice, you can do fishing if you need to. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.040 But gardening, certainly, I think, except you're going to have 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.840 a really short growing season. Yeah, it's gonna stink, but 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.080 you can do it. But I remember seeing I mean 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.480 the name of this island. We was named after a 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:52.440 saint who built a small church there in six d 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.920 That's who they named the island after. They named it 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.760 after they named the whole. There's a there's a chain 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.840 of out seven islands that are called a flanting island. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:06.119 That's the Flanty. Yeah, this was Ellian Moore is called 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.840 apparently it's Gaelic for the big island, you know, and 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.520 they it was guys. You see, you know, shepherds used 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.520 to take their sheep and this seems really dumb because 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.120 I can imagine what a task it must have been. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.120 But they would cart their sheep to these islands, kick 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.040 them out on the island to feed on the grass. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.520 They wouldn't stay overnight because they were fearing the spirits 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.840 or little people that live there, so they'd leave and 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.679 then come back a couple of days they actually their sheep. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.760 They do that in Ireland still, but they did do that, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.119 and I leaned and the cause or the reason for 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.240 that is because there are no predators on those islands. True, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.520 but they don't seem to word much work cart I mean, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.800 neither of you dealt with sheep. Yeah, they're stupid, right, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.199 but so it's not like a daily thing, right you Like, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.800 it's like for weeks or along. But but still it's 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.040 a giant pane in the butt to get a sheep 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.960 to go into a gated area, because they will, they'll 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.520 run into the fence, they'll run the opposite direction. They'll 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.320 go everywhere, but where the obvious hole is act that 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.439 I can only imagine trying to put them onto a boat, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.760 which is you know, an archaic boat. Yeah, again, it's 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.880 gonna suck, but it's probably over well less than you're 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.160 gonna lose two wolves. Salted mutton right there they put 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.480 right into the ocean. You got salted mutton, pre salted. Yeah, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.920 I don't know. It just seems to me like it 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.320 would be a hell of a lot of work because 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.080 you'd have to haul and that's like the nearest other 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.960 islands at large Island that's to the east about fifty 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.280 and twenty miles. That's a long way to sail and 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.640 very rough sea. I guess you'd do it the summer. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.000 Maybe maybe it's only done in the summertime, but it 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.280 just probably it's a little it's a little weird to me, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.199 you know. Maybe they were just really hard up for 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.760 good grass for their sheep to graze on. Okay, anyway, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.480 but enough of them sheep so that so the Asperus 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:04.359 shows up. Uh that the name of the relay, the 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.760 relationship to Hesperus. Yeah, it shows up, and they're a 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.720 little mistified. There's nobody there to meet them with the 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.560 landing and no signs of life at all. And they 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.280 shot off a rocket, an alert rocket, or basically basically, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.080 they blasted the horns several times. They got no response, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.200 and then shot off a flare and and got no response, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.560 and then they lowered a boat and sent a boat 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.040 into the landing. And by the way, side note there 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.679 are two landings for the for this thing. There's one 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.679 in the east and one on the west side. So 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:37.160 and they were approaching on the east side landing, right, yeah, yeah, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.639 they were, they were there. Actually they were actually sailing 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.200 from the east of the island, so that would be 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.920 the closer one. And it all depends on weather conditions, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.960 you know, so the which way the wind is blowing. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.680 So if it's blown from the west, you see east 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.440 one that's blown from the east east of the west 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.800 one be on the least side. Yeah, so they hit 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.160 in that that that'll be somewhat more significant a little 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.600 bit later on. But so they so they lower a 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.600 boat and sent a few sailors ashore along with this 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.000 guy named Joseph Moore, and he was the relief guy. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.560 He was the guy that was supposed to be taking 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.080 over so one of the other guys in the lighthouse 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.280 could go back to the shore for for a while. Yeah, exactly, 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.320 that's what he called the relief boat. So anyway he 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.159 goes ashore, and because there was nobody at the landing, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.000 he had a little bit of trouble getting out of 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.040 the boat. I guess when you think about it would 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.880 be a lot easier to land your boat if there's 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.760 somebody standing on the landing that you can toss your 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.800 rope to tie off. Yeah, so it's a little bit, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.879 a little bit tricky, but he got on shore and 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.120 climbed up all them steps to the lighthouse. And when 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.280 he gets there, well, so there's a gate around the lighthouse, 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.040 and it was shut. The gate was shut, which at 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:45.880 least that's to another mystery, which is why you need 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:51.879 a fence on a deserted island. Stock right there? Maybe 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.440 in reason, Maybe maybe that was to keep the livestock 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.800 out of their garden. So maybe they did have livestock 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.320 and a garden. I don't know. I figured it's kind 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.040 of irrelevant. I mean I heard that story too, but 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:02.480 I just figured it was kind of irrelevant to the 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.159 overall mystery. Sheep beat everything I could. It could have 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:11.760 been Killer Sheep. I like the sheep version of Night 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.120 of the Lepez. Yeah, have you ever seen that that 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.640