WEBVTT - A Double Murder in Madrid

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky Listener discretion advised. On the

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<v Speaker 1>morning of August one, nineteen eighty, a Spanish nobleman and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, the Marquis and Marchioness of Arquillo, had just

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<v Speaker 1>moved into their summer chalet in Soto Grande, right outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Madrid, where they would spend the entire month of August.

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<v Speaker 1>But neither of them, Maria lords or Quillo nor Manuel

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<v Speaker 1>de la Sierre Torres, her husband, came down for breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>that morning. When the Marquis's driver arrived at the chalet,

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<v Speaker 1>he told the cook how strange it was that they

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<v Speaker 1>had slept in so late. They called them on the

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<v Speaker 1>internal line in the house and no one answered. When

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<v Speaker 1>they went up to the Marquis's room, they found that

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<v Speaker 1>Maria lords or Quillo and Manuel de la Sierre Torres

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<v Speaker 1>had been murdered. Aside from the cook, there hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>any other domestic workers in the house. Maria and Manuel

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<v Speaker 1>had encouraged them to take the previous afternoon and evening off.

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<v Speaker 1>The cook would later tell the police that she hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>heard anything. Even more inexplicable was that Bully, the marquess's

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<v Speaker 1>famously loud poodle, didn't bark even once that night. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like whoever had carried out the murders knew the

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<v Speaker 1>house well. The killer got in through the indoor pool,

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<v Speaker 1>using a blow torch to activate the latch and get

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<v Speaker 1>into the main house. Even though they broke through the

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<v Speaker 1>glass door in the back of the house, no glass

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<v Speaker 1>shattered to the ground. They knew where the alarm was

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<v Speaker 1>and switched it off. Nothing was stolen. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>clear suspect. Initially, Maria and Manuel's children, Miriam and Juan,

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<v Speaker 1>were considered. After all, the nobles had forty three million

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<v Speaker 1>pesitas that their children could have inherited upon their parents' deaths,

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<v Speaker 1>but both had alibis. Miriam was with her lover, Richard Rue,

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker from her office whom the press nicknamed Dick

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<v Speaker 1>the American, and Juan was in London getting a master's

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<v Speaker 1>degree in finance. When the police finally did arrive at

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<v Speaker 1>the scene, they discovered one even stranger detail. Someone had

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<v Speaker 1>already washed the blood off of Maria and Manuel's bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Danish Schwartz and this is noble blood with no

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<v Speaker 1>suspect in sight. The investigator on the case declared, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>this case is inexplicable. After spending a few hours at

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene. The case would remain inexplicable four months.

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<v Speaker 1>The police couldn't find any solid evidence that could pin

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<v Speaker 1>anyone to the murders. There was no murder weapon, no DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>just a few bullet casings at the marquess's summer house.

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<v Speaker 1>This didn't stop the press from speculating about the culprit

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<v Speaker 1>of course. By nineteen eighty, the Franco dictatorship had been

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<v Speaker 1>over for just five years and journalists were eager to

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<v Speaker 1>flex their new freedom of expression. Besides, in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the summer heat, when many Spaniards were on vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>there was barely any other news to report on. On

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<v Speaker 1>August second, nineteen eighty, the only other story making it

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<v Speaker 1>to the front page of a major Spanish newspaper, El Pais,

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<v Speaker 1>was government vacations paralyzed political activity. The case would only

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<v Speaker 1>pick up steam as months passed and the press speculated

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<v Speaker 1>on potential culprits. Readers devoured stories about the iquios in

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<v Speaker 1>various newspapers and weeklies, theorizing that the murderer was a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Basque nationalist terrorist group. ETA later that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a hit man, or even that it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a former domestic worker fired for a gay

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<v Speaker 1>affair with the marquess. A clear suspect finally emerged nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a year after the murders. One morning in April nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one, a child playing in the San Juan reservoir

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<v Speaker 1>in Madrid found a pistol on the shore. This gun

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<v Speaker 1>matched the one that had killed the Marquesses of Quillo,

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<v Speaker 1>a small twenty two caliber pistol with a silencer. It

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<v Speaker 1>was registered in the name of Miguel Escobedo, the father

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<v Speaker 1>of Rafi de Escovedo, the Marquess's estranged son in law,

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<v Speaker 1>who was married to their daughter, Miriam. Rafi Escobedo was

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<v Speaker 1>a handsome law school dropout and a known playboy. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the Marquesses, he was also a noble, as his mom

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<v Speaker 1>was from the Prada Armeno family, but his parents had

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<v Speaker 1>fallen on hard times. His family's dire financial circumstances didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get in the way of his social life. He spent

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<v Speaker 1>his teens and early twenties cavorting with Madrid's young elite

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<v Speaker 1>Miriam de la Sierra, the marquess's daughter, and Raffi, met

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<v Speaker 1>at their equestrian club when she was twenty. Miriam developed

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<v Speaker 1>a crush instantly. She wrote in her memoirs, quote Raffi

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<v Speaker 1>was very attentive, charismatic, friendly, and very affectionate. He was

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<v Speaker 1>all he's making plans. He took me to parties. He

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<v Speaker 1>even taught me how to dress differently. Raffi provided a

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing contrast to Miriam's strict upbringing. Her father was known

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<v Speaker 1>for being stingy with his kids, to such an extent

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<v Speaker 1>that Miriam and Juan were called the poor in their

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<v Speaker 1>posh circle of friends. She started working at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteen to earn her own money. With no allowance

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<v Speaker 1>to speak of, Miriam hoped that with her responsible, practical attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>she could clean up Raffi's act. She wrote in her memoirs,

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<v Speaker 1>I love being a mother to everyone. Raffi was like

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<v Speaker 1>a child, attractive, charming, friendly. So with Raffi, I adopted

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<v Speaker 1>the same role of savior. I wanted to transform him.

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<v Speaker 1>Being so young and sheltered, Miriam wasn't yet aware that

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<v Speaker 1>an I can fix him. Attitude doesn't exactly bode well

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple. The Marquesses were not so naive. They

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<v Speaker 1>strongly objected to their daughter's marriage, since Raphael had no

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<v Speaker 1>job or prospects, but Miriam stuck to her guns, and

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<v Speaker 1>after a year and a half of dating, the couple

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<v Speaker 1>married at the Church of Humera on June twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight, with all members of the high society,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Duchess of Alba to the Egyptian ambassador in attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>The marriage deteriorated almost immediately, as soon as Miriam said,

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<v Speaker 1>I do she regretted marrying Rafi. They started out living

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<v Speaker 1>with her parents in their summer home in Sasagas, but

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<v Speaker 1>they clashed constantly. Once Rafai even called the Marquess his

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<v Speaker 1>father in law a quote pig, miser and cretan. In response,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marquess threatened to cut Rafae off without a passetta.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick of fighting with Raffi, the Marquesses threw the young

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<v Speaker 1>couple out of their house. The newlyweds went to live

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<v Speaker 1>in an apartment in Madrid, where they suffered various periods

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<v Speaker 1>of financial hardship without Miriam's parents stepping in to support them,

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<v Speaker 1>which Raffi resented. Raffi and Miriam were so broke that

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<v Speaker 1>he had to pawn Miriam's engagement bracelet. Soon they began

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<v Speaker 1>living completely separate lives. Sometimes Miriam would come home from

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<v Speaker 1>work and find their apartment full of people drinking, doing drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>and gambling, things that she recalls she quote couldn't or

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to know about. She felt she never fit

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<v Speaker 1>in with Raffie's friends other rich kidd layabouts when she

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<v Speaker 1>never drank a drop of alcohol in her life. Miriam wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>little by little, I realized that my relationship with Raffi

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<v Speaker 1>was hopeless. At first we had daily arguments, but later

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to disappear and dedicate himself to his travels.

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<v Speaker 1>After just six months of marriage, Miriam and Raffie were separated. Miriam,

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<v Speaker 1>regretting her union with Raffi, made amends with her parents, who,

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<v Speaker 1>to their credit, never said I told you so. The

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<v Speaker 1>marquess and his deeply religious wife, a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic Opus Day Organization, agreed to try and help

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<v Speaker 1>Miriam escape her marriage by seeking a church annulment by

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<v Speaker 1>Easter nineteen seventy nine, nine months after she had married Raffi.

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<v Speaker 1>Miriam was in a new relationship with Dick the America,

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker at the company she worked at. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the murders, Miriam and Raffi had been separated

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<v Speaker 1>for over two years. Initially, neither the police nor Miriam

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<v Speaker 1>considered Rafi as suspect because he had no financial motive.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't stand to inherit anything if the marquesses died

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<v Speaker 1>because they had signed a separation of property agreement before

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage. But after finding the pistol at the San

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<v Speaker 1>Juan reservoir, another motive emerged revenge. Unlike Miriam, Raffi resented

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<v Speaker 1>his in laws for their stinginess and blamed them for

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<v Speaker 1>their financial struggles. They had fought constantly, and Raffi made

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<v Speaker 1>no secret of his hatred of his father in law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true that Raffi's general incompetence seems not to fit

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<v Speaker 1>the precision of the crime, with not even a shard

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<v Speaker 1>of glass left at the crime scene, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>also a loose cannon, unpredictable and reckless. Miriam began to

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if Raffi's venomous words for her father could have

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<v Speaker 1>turned into actual violence. In the weeks after the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>she remembered a frightening anecdote from her past. After a

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<v Speaker 1>particularly bad fight with the marquess, Raffi had told her,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a plan prepared and I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>kill your family. A few days after finding the gun

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<v Speaker 1>in the San Juan reservoir in April nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 1>inspectors went to Raffi's family home with a search warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>At the shooting range, they collected samples of bullet casings

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<v Speaker 1>which they compared with the ones from the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>They confirmed that they were the same, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>had to the Escobedo family ranch in Quinca, where Raffi

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<v Speaker 1>had retired with the intention of setting up a pig farm.

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<v Speaker 1>From there, Raffi was taken to the General Directorate of Security,

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<v Speaker 1>which at that time was located in Puerta del Sol

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<v Speaker 1>in Madrid. Raffi suffered through hours of interrogation and humiliation,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the night he confessed he

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<v Speaker 1>had killed the Marquesses of Urquillo, and he also said

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<v Speaker 1>he had not done it alone. He wrote by hand

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<v Speaker 1>in a statement, I am guilty of the death of

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<v Speaker 1>my in laws, the Marquesses of Urquillo, he gave key details.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he used tape to break the glass

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<v Speaker 1>door that led to the pool of the village or

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<v Speaker 1>wooden chatter. He refused to say who else had been

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<v Speaker 1>with him that night. The next day, he immediately recanted,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he confessed under duress. Although he did admit

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<v Speaker 1>to having been in the Samasaguas mansion that night, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that he was not the one who pulled the

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<v Speaker 1>trigger and actually killed his in laws. After Raffi insisted

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<v Speaker 1>on his innocence, the case suffered even more setbacks. The

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<v Speaker 1>four twenty two caliber shells that had been found in

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<v Speaker 1>the marquess's room and the two hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>that had been collected at the Raffi's family estate disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>from court, as did the murder weapon recovered in the

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<v Speaker 1>reservoir and Raffi's handwritten confession. When the trial finally began,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a media event. Journalists crowded in the front row,

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<v Speaker 1>and the courtroom was so packed that people could barely

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<v Speaker 1>get in and out. Hossein Maria Stampabroun, Raffi's defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>emphasized that having lost all of the evidence, the prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>did not have enough proof to convict Raffi. The lack

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence made both sides cases much more difficult. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense expert claimed that the shells from the crime scene

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<v Speaker 1>didn't match the ones from Raffi's house, while the police

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<v Speaker 1>maintained the opposite. Still, the defense attorney Stampa Braun put

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<v Speaker 1>up a formidable defense. When the prosecution brought out an

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<v Speaker 1>expert witness testifying to these similarities between the two sets

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<v Speaker 1>of casings, Braun dictated to the Secretary of the court

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<v Speaker 1>a report in which he qualified and questioned that evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor interrupted him, saying that he was behaving inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 1>Braun responded, quote, if the detailed report of a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>made in defense of someone who is risking sixty years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison is considered inappropriate, then I from this moment

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<v Speaker 1>resigned from the defense and ceased to be a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>because I am not interested in collaborating with justice. The

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<v Speaker 1>audience in the courtroom burst into applause, and the presiding

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<v Speaker 1>judge had to order the courtroom to be cleared. For

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<v Speaker 1>their part, the psychiatrists who examined Raffi and testified at

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<v Speaker 1>the trial established that he was quote incapable of killing

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<v Speaker 1>a fly. They concluded that he lacked the quote capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>intellect and will to kill with such certainty and coldness.

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<v Speaker 1>Ismael Fuente and Camilla vele Quantos, who covered the trial

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<v Speaker 1>for L Payes, wrote on June twenty fourth, nineteen eighty three, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Escobedo's confession of guilt, which he

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<v Speaker 1>later retracted, and which is the central issue of the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>from the point of view of the criminal procedure law,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the alleged evidence could be proven to the

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<v Speaker 1>end accused, but it seemed like the judge ban Venito

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<v Speaker 1>Guevara had already decided Raffi was guilty from the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the trial. According to a journalist who covered the case,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the sessions of the trial began with the

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<v Speaker 1>judge saying to Raffi guilty, one get up. On July seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three, Guevara's sentence was released to the public

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<v Speaker 1>in a decision that only took up a page and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Raffi Escobedo alday was sentenced to twenty six years,

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<v Speaker 1>eight months and one day of imprisonment for each of

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<v Speaker 1>the crimes. For committing two crimes of murder with the

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<v Speaker 1>aggravating circumstances of premeditation and nocturnality. Upon hearing the sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>Raffi said, I didn't think I was going to be convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do in spite of the shaky evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>With the trial over and a verdict reached, it would

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<v Speaker 1>seem that the Archio case was closed, But in his sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge included a phrase that would fuel decades of

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<v Speaker 1>further investigation by the police and press alike. He stated

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<v Speaker 1>that Escobato murdered his former in laws, either alone or

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<v Speaker 1>in the company of others lo and Behold No more

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<v Speaker 1>than Two days after the verdict had been reached, a

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<v Speaker 1>bombshell article dropped in Spanish magazine Interview that promised to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal who those others might have been. On July ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three, Interview magazine introduced a new suspect into

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<v Speaker 1>the Arquio case, Mauricio Lopez Roberts, fifth Marquis of Torre Amosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez Roberts was a close friend of Raffi's and ran

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<v Speaker 1>in the same circle of Madrid socialites. The magazine alleged

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<v Speaker 1>that being a good shot and an inveterate hunter. He

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<v Speaker 1>had ordered a silencer for a gun from a workshop

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<v Speaker 1>days before the crime. The silencer, which they alleged, was

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<v Speaker 1>then used on the gun that killed the Marquesses. Mauricio

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez Roberts was taken into police custody, where he clarified

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<v Speaker 1>that the silencer he had ordered was for a rifle,

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<v Speaker 1>not a pistol, disproving the allegations from the magazine. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>he admitted that he was connected to the case. Lopez

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts told the inspectors that on July thirty first, nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>after having dinner at Ls Bejo and a few drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>Raffi arrived with his friend Javier and Aastasio. Anastasio was

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<v Speaker 1>another boy from a well off family, a flirt and

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<v Speaker 1>a party animal who spent his nights out at famous

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<v Speaker 1>Madrid clubs. Anastasio and Raffi had been friends since they

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<v Speaker 1>were six. Anastasio did not belong to a family of

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<v Speaker 1>ancient lineage, nor did he have a noble last name,

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<v Speaker 1>but his father owned a gas station in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of Madrid, with which he amassed a considerable fortune, which

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<v Speaker 1>made him a rich kid. According to Lopez Roberts, after dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>Anastasio did not accompany Raffi to the chalet to kill

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<v Speaker 1>the marquesses. That said, on August third, nineteen eighty, Raffi

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<v Speaker 1>met Anastasio in Madrid's Placa del Conde del Villa Asuchil,

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<v Speaker 1>where he gave him the bag he had taken two

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<v Speaker 1>somasaguas on the night of the crime. It contained guns, gloves,

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<v Speaker 1>a blow torch, and the hammer that had been used

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<v Speaker 1>to gain access to the inside of the house. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>Raffi asked Anastasio not to look at what was inside

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<v Speaker 1>the bag and just to get rid of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>Anastasio was the one who threw it into the San

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<v Speaker 1>Juan reservoir the next day. Lopez Roberts warned Anastasio of

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<v Speaker 1>the danger if he were arrested, and recommended that he

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<v Speaker 1>flee to England and from there to South Africa, a

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<v Speaker 1>country with which there was no extradition treaty. Since Anastasio

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<v Speaker 1>had no money on hand to escape, Lopez Roberts lent

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<v Speaker 1>him twenty five pesetas. The police confirmed this information and

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<v Speaker 1>also confirmed Lopez Roberts' alibi for the night of the murders.

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<v Speaker 1>It might seem strange that Lopez Roberts would confess to

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<v Speaker 1>helping an accessory to the crime escape, but he declared

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<v Speaker 1>that Raffi's sentence was indefensible and that he just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to help the police find the true culprit. I say

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<v Speaker 1>this now because I want justice to be done, he

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<v Speaker 1>told the police, while assuring that his friend was innocent

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<v Speaker 1>and was paying the price for others. After Lopez Robert's revelation,

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<v Speaker 1>both he and Anastasio, who hadn't actually fled, were arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and both spent three and a half years in provisional

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<v Speaker 1>prison awaiting trial. They were released on March twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven. Nine months later, a lawyer went to

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<v Speaker 1>Anastasio's house to notify him that the Madrid Provincial Court

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<v Speaker 1>had set the date for the oral hearings for both

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<v Speaker 1>his and Lopez Roberts's trial, but Anastasio was nowhere to

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<v Speaker 1>be found. It turned out he had escaped. He took

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<v Speaker 1>a bag with some clothes and the money from an

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<v Speaker 1>apartment he had sold, and drove across the border into

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<v Speaker 1>Portugal with one of his eight brothers. From there, he

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<v Speaker 1>took a direct flight to Brazil, a country with no

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<v Speaker 1>extradition treaty with Spain. Meanwhile, Rafi Escobedo was in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been transferred to al Duezo prison in cell

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<v Speaker 1>number four on the second floor. He decorated it with

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<v Speaker 1>photos of Miriam and paper airplanes in every corner of

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Raffi also kept in his cell a collection

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<v Speaker 1>of letters stored in cardboard boxes and a canary. While

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, Ralfi agreed to an interview with the journalist

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Quintero, who had the nickname the Madman on the Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Raffi spoke of his depression in prison and his alleged

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<v Speaker 1>unfair treatment by the justice system. There has been no

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<v Speaker 1>investigation and there will be no investigation because nobody interested

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<v Speaker 1>in investigating it, he said to Quintero, I am nothing

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<v Speaker 1>any more. On July twenty seventh, nineteen eighty eight, fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>days after that interview, Raffi Escobedo was found hanged at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of thirty three in his cell. He had

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<v Speaker 1>hanged himself using a sheet. Later that year, Lopez Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>was taken to court where the judge, who happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be the son of the judge who had originally tried Raffi,

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<v Speaker 1>presided over the case, Lopez Roberts was accused by the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor of covering up the perpetrators of the murders and

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<v Speaker 1>of having had news of the event both from Raffi

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<v Speaker 1>and from Anastasio. The case was much less of a

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<v Speaker 1>media event than it had been in the early eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>The courtroom was not even half full. In court, Lopez

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts tried to downplay his knowledge of the crime, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Raffi told many things, some were true and others were not.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not believe absolutely everything he told me because

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<v Speaker 1>he had changed his version about two hundred times. But

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez Roberts admitted to having met with Anastasio the day

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<v Speaker 1>after Rafi's arrest at a cafe in Madrid. Quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>found him very worried about the arrest, and I advised

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<v Speaker 1>him to go to London, where his girlfriend was, so

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<v Speaker 1>that she could console him. He told me that he

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<v Speaker 1>had no money, and I lent him twenty five pisetas

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<v Speaker 1>if I knew that Anastasio was actually involved in the affair,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have lent him that money so he could

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere. Lopez Roberts maintained almost to the end that

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<v Speaker 1>in his conversation with Anastasio, the latter made no reference

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<v Speaker 1>to having gotten rid of a bag containing the gun

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<v Speaker 1>used in the murders, the hammer, the blowtorch, and abutane

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<v Speaker 1>cylinder used to break into the quio. He knew from

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<v Speaker 1>Rafi that Anastasio had taken care to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>these objects, but at the cafe they didn't mention it

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<v Speaker 1>quote as Lopez Roberts says, although I imagine he was worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it. On February twenty sixth, nineteen ninety, Lopez Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to ten years in prison for being an

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<v Speaker 1>accessory to the crime, lending Anastasio money to escape the country.

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<v Speaker 1>While Lopez Roberts served his prison sentence, Anastasio was still missing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until twenty fifteen that Vanity Fair finally found

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Anastasio in Buenos Aires. The charges against him have

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<v Speaker 1>been dropped, and he insisted on his innocence, alleging that

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<v Speaker 1>Juan de la Sierra, the marquess's son, was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>one behind the murder. He poked holes in Juan's alibi

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<v Speaker 1>that he was in London at the time, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>none of the journalists who had waiting for Juan at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport to see him arrive back to Madrid, had

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen him, and that Juan denied a judge's request

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<v Speaker 1>to show his plane ticket and passport. Most damningly, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that the Knight Raffi, told Anastasio to take him

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<v Speaker 1>to the Marquess's house. Raffi had said it was because

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<v Speaker 1>he had an appointment with Wan. It's still unclear what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly happened on the night of July thirty first, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty and who killed the marquesses. Even if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Raffi did pull the trigger, Javier Anastasio buried the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence and Mauricio Lopez Roberts helped Anastasio escape. It remains

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<v Speaker 1>murky what Raffi would have had to gain from such

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<v Speaker 1>a gruesome murder and why his friends were so willing

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<v Speaker 1>to help him with such a high profile crime. It's

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<v Speaker 1>even less clear if there were even more people were

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the crime. It was the case's ambiguity that

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<v Speaker 1>so captivated the Spanish media. Their Quio murders were the

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<v Speaker 1>first parallel trial in democratic Spain, creating a media circus

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<v Speaker 1>and a slew of conspiracies in its wake. Every aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the case was up for debate, even the smallest detail,

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<v Speaker 1>like why the marquess's poodle didn't bark when an intruder

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<v Speaker 1>arrived that night, or why the bodies of the marquesses

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<v Speaker 1>were washed before the police arrived, making a forensic autopsy impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>We still don't have answers for those questions, and police

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<v Speaker 1>mismanagement only made things worse, given that the most crucial

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in this case, the murder weapon, the bullet casings

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<v Speaker 1>found at the scene of the crime, and Raffi's handwritten

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<v Speaker 1>confession all went missing. This allowed the media to pick

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<v Speaker 1>apart and speculate about every detail and let conspiracy theories proliferate.

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<v Speaker 1>As a journalist who covered the case put it quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it had all of the ingredients of a good soap opera.

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<v Speaker 1>Two dead marquesses, Raffi's morbid gang, well off guys who

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<v Speaker 1>spent their time drinking gin and tonics at the country club.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a divorce, an American lover, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with no job or prospects, strange moves in the jet set.

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<v Speaker 1>This case had everything everything, perhaps except definite answers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the story of the murder of the

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<v Speaker 1>Marquesses of her Quio, but keep listening to hear even

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<v Speaker 1>more about some shady behavior that happened in the house

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<v Speaker 1>on the morning of the murders. The day after the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>the marquess's financial administrator, a man named Diego Martinez Herrara,

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<v Speaker 1>arrived to work wearing black clothes as if he were

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<v Speaker 1>already in mourning, even though it was a sweltering August

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<v Speaker 1>in Madrid. As soon as he found out what had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>he went immediately to the Marquess's office. He took some

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<v Speaker 1>documents from the table and went out to the garden

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<v Speaker 1>to burn them. He asked for help from the butler

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<v Speaker 1>to burn the documents, but the butler kept many of

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<v Speaker 1>the papers and then handed them over to the police.

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<v Speaker 1>This detail continues to confound those investigating the crime what

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<v Speaker 1>documents were burned and why. While we don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>answer and the police never considered the administrator nor the

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<v Speaker 1>butler prime suspects, the act was suspicious enough to raise

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<v Speaker 1>questions about the involvement in the case. Raffi, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>did accuse Diego Martinez Herrera of collaborating with Juan, their

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<v Speaker 1>son in murdering the Marquesses for the record, The butler,

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<v Speaker 1>who took every opportunity to talk to the press about

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<v Speaker 1>the murder, also blamed Juan and Diego for the horrific crime.

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