1 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition, the second 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: of the week of the Lake Extra podcast. I'm Josh 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Pate going against my own advice, going against the precedent 4 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: that you and I just sat earlier this week that 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: got great reviews, and that is recording the night before 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: instead of the morning of. But it was a busy 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: day yesterday, so I am recording the morning of. So 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: as I said the other day, my mom says, I 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: sound like I have a cold. If I record in 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: the morning, I can never tell the difference. But I'm 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: recording in the morning. So if it sounds like I 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: have a cold, it ain't a cold. Is just the morning. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: We got a full mail bag this morning. We got 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: a busy weekend on deck. It is a huge weekend 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: in the SEC that tends to happen a lot when 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: you play ten conference games. So we got a number 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: of questions that relate to that. We really got questions 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: that go all over the play so quickly. If you 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: want to contribute, Josh paid seven zero six at gmail 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: dot com, at Latekickjosh on Twitter. 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And with that, 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: let's dive in this morning. I want to get busy 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: because I want to get as many in as I can. 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: And Richie starts us off this morning with what most 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I would say outside of the Big twelve would probably 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what, let me not say that I was 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna say. People consider it the game of the week. 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you grow up in Columbus, Georgia, Tennessee, Georgia. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: That's the spotlight game in the SEC. True enough, but 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: then you got Florida A and M. You also have 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Miami Clemson. That's a huge one. That's a top ten matchup. 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: It's just that the polls feel kind of weird this 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: year because you've got teams not participating, and so top 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: ten matchup, top fifteen matchup, does it carry the same weight? 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: It is a huge one. Either way, it's a huge one. 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: And then you also have oh, I don't know if 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: you've heard about it, Texas OU that's happening this weekend too, 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: so a big game, one of the big games of 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: the weekend Tennessee Georgia. That's where we're going to start 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: off with Richie's question. Since both Kirby Smart and Jeremy 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Prewett were defensive coordinators under Nick Saban, how similar of 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: a defensive approach do you think they'll take in this 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: weekend's matchup? I guess I'm asking who do you think 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: has the coaching edge in that game? You've already done 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: a great job of breaking down the talent on the field, 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: but who has the coaching edge? Richie? This is a 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: layered question, I think, because the coaching edge really come 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: to what kind of talent do you have to work with? 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to remove my opinion here for a second. 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what people at Alabama have 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: told me. The people at Alabama have told me they 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: don't think they ever had a better football mind come 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: through there than Jeremy Prewitt. It's everyone including Okay, they 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: think he's the best defensive coordinator they had. And that's 64 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: everyone included, So that includes Kirby Smart. Now it's not 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: to knock Kirby Smart. They're not knocking Kirby Smart, but 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Jeremy Prewitt. They loved him. They thought he was the 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: best evaluator. Talent evaluations huge in this game huge. Jeremy 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Prwitt evaluates talent as good as anyone on planet Earth. 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: When it comes to evaluating defensive talent, no one better 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: than Jeremy Pruitt. So you had not only that, not 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: only did you have an A plus evaluator, but you 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: had an A plus coach too, So there was really 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: it was going to be hard to overtake that, and 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Kirby did a great job for a long time there. 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: But as it relates to this weekend's game, who has 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: the coaching edge, Well, Jeremy Prewitt doesn't necessarily have the 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of versatility in depth in the front seven that 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart does, which means Kirby Smart can afford to 79 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: do more things. Kirby Smart can be a lot more 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: personnel versatile. He can be a lot more multiple in 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: his looks. He can do all that stuff. Jeremy Prewitt, 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, hopes to be there one day 83 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: with his talent, but at this point he's not there. 84 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: They're not bad now, I'm not saying they are, But 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: that's a different approach you have to take. It's sort 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: of a one size fits all. There aren't varying personnel 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: packages he can throw out there in any given situation, 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: quite like Kirby Smart can. I also don't think Tennessee 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: possesses quite the confidence in their corners that Kirby Smart does. 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's really where Pruitt wants to get. Prewit ultimately 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: wants to get to where he can trust his corners. 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't even matter who's coming up Saturday. Okay, he can 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: be a nameless, faceless opponent. You could reach your hand 94 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: into a bag and draw any random team out, whoever's 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: coming out of that bag. I got corners on my team, 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: like for instance, Kirby does with Tyson Campbell and Eric Stokes. 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: It does not matter. They're gonna play Alabama next week, 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: and I can guarantee you Kirby Smart whether he'll be 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: right or wrong. He'll look at John Matchi or Jalen 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Waddle or Devonte Smith and he'll say, these are some 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: of the best in America. These are some of the 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: best receivers in America. I got racehorses here that I 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: can trust against them. Jeremy Prut's not in a place 104 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: where he can say that yet, So how does that 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: impact the way you call a game? Now? The difference, 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I guess the key difference in this one is I 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: said the other night, and I'll kind of reiterate this, 108 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: I don't know that Tennessee looks over at Georgia and 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: says they got a quarterback that's really going to expose us, 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: that he's really gonna flex us in a lot of 111 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: places and put pressure on this aspect of that aspect 112 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: of our defense. And that sounds obviously like a slide 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: against Stetson Bennett, which is not reality. And it's I'm 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: removing myself from it. Hey, I'm telling you, I think 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: that's what they think. You know, that's how you give 116 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: yourself an excuse to say anything you want to. No, no, no, 117 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: it's not my opinion. I think they think it. Get 118 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: mad at Jeremy PRUITTT don't get mad at me. He's 119 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: the one who theoretically thinks it. But I do think 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: that's how they view Georgia, and so as a result, 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that he thinks he needs dominant 122 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: cornerback play. This week probably got some fifty to fifty 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: balls you that you're gonna have to win on. But 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: that's any given football game outside of playing a triple 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: option team. That's any given football game. So I don't 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: know that the coaching edge necessarily is what I pay 127 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: attention to, Richie, because both these dudes know what they're doing. 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: They've been doing it for a long time. I pay 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: more attention to personnel, you know, when you need. I 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: remember last week watching Adam Anderson for Georgia, and Adam 131 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: Anderson is a dude that's totally anonymous to most of 132 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: the country. If you follow recruiting, you vaguely rememb remember 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the name. A few cycles ago. He was a five 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: star guy. And if you follow Georgia, you know the name. 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: If you follow Georgia really close, you know the name. 136 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: But outside of that, I mean, if you're an Oklahoma 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: State fan, you don't know who Adam Anderson is and 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: yet last week, all of a sudden, you see him 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: making all these plays, and even if you follow college 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: football pretty hardcore, you say, I don't know who is 141 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Adam Anderson. I'm looking at my preview magazine I bought 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: four months ago and I don't see his name listed 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: as a starter here. Who is he? That's the point. 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: That's the kind of rotation that they can do. That's 145 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: kind of versatility, that's kind of multiplicity and personnel packages 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: they have at Georgia. They just bring guys like that 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: off the bench. He's just waiting there. And then this 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: week against Tennessee maybe you don't even see him. Next 149 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: week against Alabama, he'll have fifteen or twenty snaps minimum, 150 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: because that's kind of offense that you get guys like 151 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Adam Anderson to try and stop. Next up is Noah. 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: I think it's clear that the Big Twelve is a 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: hot mess. Before the season, I thought TCU had a 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: real chance at the Big Twelve title. They lost to 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: your Iowa State. Yes they did, Noah, but they've beaten 156 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma already has two losses. If Oklahoma State 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: also loses at some point, which I think they will 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: do you think TCU has a good shot at the 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: conference title? Side note, I'd also like to mention I 160 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: think it'd be a great idea to drop late kick merchandise. 161 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: I love the second point. Noah, I'll leave it at 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: that because the appropriate parties are already listening. Let's get 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: back to the first point. The first point is anyone 164 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: has a shot in the Big twelve? Anyone? Noah, I'm 165 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: not so sure that if you found eleven or twelve 166 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: of your closest friends and put together a team, I'm 167 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: not sure I would count you guys out. You got twelve, 168 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: so we had to add some depth there, got a 169 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: guy to come off the bench. I'm not so sure 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: I count you out, and I'm certainly not counting TCU out. Hopefully, 171 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: from this point moving forward, with Max Duggan, they get 172 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: steady quarterback play, which is what cost them in earlier games. 173 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: And secondly, or did I already do? Secondly? Well, thirdly, 174 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: tertiarily if you will, yes, they've got a shot. Why 175 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't they? Oklahoma? Not only did you mention they have 176 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: two losses, I don't know that Oklahoma's done losing. Even 177 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: if they are, those are two losses already on their resume. 178 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: And secondly, Texas and know You play each other this weekend, 179 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: so there's going to be at least one loser, if 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: not more. Oklahoma State is the team that they haven't 181 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: dropped one yet, and they are the one who's playing 182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: defense out there, allegedly playing defense better than anyone, or 183 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: apparently is the more proper word. It's not alleged. I've 184 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: seen it happen, playing better defense right now than anyone. 185 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: So maybe they've got the most shot at being consistent. 186 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: But remember how the Big twelve works. It's not Division 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: fourmat it's taking the top two teams, So you don't 188 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: need to overtake everyone. You just need to overtake everyone 189 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: but one and get yourself a spot in that title game. Yeah, 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: I think TC you has got more than a reasonable 191 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: shot at making the conference title game. All right, Miller's 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: next up, and let me just read the question then 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: I'll address it on the other side. Miller asked me, 194 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: in a dead serious manner, what would you say your 195 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: top three favorite Jordans are of all time? He's talking 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: about the shoe. What are my top three Jordans of 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: all time? Miller sometimes it's questions like these that make 198 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: me think you don't know me at all. I haven't 199 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: bought a new pair of shoes in about two years, minimum, 200 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: two years, I probably combined over the last decade, have 201 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: not bought more than four or five pairs of shoes, 202 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: all encompassing folks, not just sneakers, not just tennis shoes. 203 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about everything, obviously, aside from the little throwaway 204 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: flip flops you buy when you go to the beach. 205 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: So having said that, I couldn't tell you anything about 206 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: any pair of Jordans, I have no clue. I have 207 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: absolutely no clue. Brad Crawford works for US here at 208 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, and he has a huge sneaker collection. 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes when I hear him talking about his shoes, I 210 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: look like Marla Hooch looked in a league of their own. 211 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: When they send her to beauty and etiquette classes and 212 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: she's walking around trying to be graceful and proper and 213 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: balance that book on her head, and she's kind of 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: slumped over in turtle posture, and she's awkwardly looking to 215 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the left and right because she's been raised basically like 216 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: a boy, and now all of a sudden, they're trying 217 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: to get her to act like a lady. Well, when 218 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm around normal people who buy lots of shoes, and 219 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking around and I'm wearing the same thing to 220 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: go run that I wear at a church, I'm looking 221 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: around and saying, I don't know how I got here, 222 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: but something tells me I don't belong in this conversation. 223 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Miller will answer your question. I 224 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sure they're nice. I'm sure that you 225 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: know when I watch people fighting each other at a 226 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: shopping mall, over a pair of them, and I'm sure 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: everyone in that fight has got their life together in 228 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: proper perspective, Maybe I just need to learn a little 229 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: something from them. A lot of you ask questions about 230 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: boosters sometimes, and I just got a really good one. 231 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: It's a layered one. It's got basically everything you'd ever 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: want to know behind the scenes. And I got a 233 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: really juicy story for you about how Nick Saban walked 234 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: in the door like it was a saloon, and the 235 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: saloon doors flung open, and Nick Saban basically his spurs 236 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: jangling on the ground, he walked in and he said, 237 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be them or me. I'm gonna tell 238 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: you that story when we come back next up. It's 239 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: a good question here. It's kind of a multi layered question, 240 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: sort of an inside Baseball and the Weeds sort of deal. 241 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: But it is the lifeblood of college football. We all 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: know boosters support is critical to a program. I have 243 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: a few questions about it. Who has the best booster program, 244 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: who does the least with the most? And finally, has 245 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: COVID impacted booster support this year? That is from Josh 246 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: so I love the name first off. Secondly, let me 247 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: work backwards. Yes, COVID has impacted booster support this year. 248 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: And it's disproportionate too. You can't just line up every 249 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: program and say, okay, relative to what you normally get, 250 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: we can assume that we're gonna shave pick a number 251 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven percent off that number, that's not it. If 252 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: you got, for instance, a huge donor class that is 253 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: flush with cash from oeng oil and gas, maybe they've 254 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: been impacted more than people who have cattle futures riches, 255 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, just picking things out of the air. It 256 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm talking about the Big twelve, doesn't it. 257 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm just picking things out of the air, but it 258 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: is disproportionately impacted. Like what if, for example, your five 259 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: biggest donors are rich because they invested in something called 260 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: Zoom a few years ago. Well, everyone's using Zoom right now. 261 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: What if you have folks who own a bunch of 262 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: FedEx trucking lines, Well, everyone's shipping stuff right now. So 263 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: if you got oil and gas versus a FedEx fortune, 264 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: those are disproportionately impacted, which means your donors will be 265 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: disproportioned impacted. So it's very much a case by case 266 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: on that. As for the next question, who does the 267 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: least with the most? Oh, I think we got to 268 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: go back out to the Big twelve foot print, don't we. 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: But it's not just the Big twelve. We're going to 270 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the footprint, but I think we're going to the intersection 271 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: of the Big twelve and the sec footprints. How is 272 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: the answer anything other than Texas and Texas A and M. 273 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Because they've got the most. You're talking about the big 274 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: boys not only on the block but in the entire 275 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: arena of college football. The kind of money that they 276 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: have at A and M and Texas is incredible. They 277 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: can do whatever they want to whatever they want to, 278 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: even in a COVID year, they can do whatever they 279 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: want to. And yet when we look at results, what 280 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: do we have? We got a national title in O 281 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: five and there you go, that's really what we're looking at. 282 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would suffice it to say that's where 283 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: they do the least with the most, if by least 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: you mean results, because if you go to these places, 285 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: or there are always new construction projects underway. They've always 286 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: been paying top dollar for coaches. They've always got a 287 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: top dollar coaching staff, always got a top dollar recruiting budget. 288 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Everything's on the up and up in those categories. What 289 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: is the return on investment? These are folks that in 290 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: their business worlds would never accept the ROI that they're getting. 291 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: In football, the danger is in kind of going back 292 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: to the first point, who has the best booster support? 293 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: This is sort of a catch twenty two. It's one 294 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: of the very very fine lines. It's one of the 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: balancing acts and high wire acts that you have to 296 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: know about and you have to master to a certain 297 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: extent in college football. If you're an athletic director, if 298 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: you're a board of regents, if you're a university president. 299 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: You've got to understand who runs a college football program? 300 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, let me pause, I'll ask you that because 301 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: five of you may have five different answers. Who runs 302 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: a college football program? You know who runs an NFL organization? 303 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Who runs a college football program? Is it the athletic director? 304 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: Is it the president? That's who it's supposed to be 305 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: if you go by the letter of the law. Is 306 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: it the football coach? Because I guarantee you you know 307 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the name Nick Saban? Do you know who the president 308 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: of Alabama is? Do most of you know who the 309 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: ad at Alabama is? And that'd be Greg Brn He's 310 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: a high profile ad in the ad world. But do 311 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: you know his name in Kenosha, Wisconsin? Do you know 312 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: his name? Probably not? You know Nick Saban's name? Who 313 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: runs college football programs? And the answer is it depends, 314 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: it's case by case. You got some places where you've 315 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: got a very iron fisted athletic director. You've got some 316 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: places where you've got a rock star head coach. You 317 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: got some places where the president's word is the final word. 318 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: And you got some places where boosters run the show 319 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: and you really have puppets in most of those other positions. 320 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: That's a case by case. But what you have to 321 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: be careful of, regardless of what the dynamic is. Even 322 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: when you have the right dynamic, if you don't have 323 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: an effective booster program, if you don't have an engaged 324 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and involved donor class, you're dead. You have to have it, 325 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: because the others have it. You have to have it. 326 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: But with that, with the money that they give comes 327 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: a lot of times the need for access. Very rarely 328 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: will you find people so philanthropic in nature that they're 329 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: willing to open up their pocketbook and then close it 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: and then say all right, good luck with that. No, 331 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: most of the time it's yeah, i'll give you eight 332 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars this year. Yeah i'll give you one 333 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: point three this year. What are we going to do 334 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: at defensive coordinator? Because because let me tell you, I 335 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: was watching I was watching TCU the other day, I 336 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: was watching Washington the other day, and boy like that. 337 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: I like that fella they have out there. Let's let's 338 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: call him up. You know, at one point three million. 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think I least deserve to suggest that 340 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: he gets an interview. Well, here's the problem. This dude 341 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: owns a bunch of burger king franchises. He knows nothing 342 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: about hiring a defensive coach. Unfortunately, you need his money, 343 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and so sometimes you got to say, all right, mister Jefferson, 344 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: all right, well we'll call him up, We'll get him 345 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: an interview. You don't think that happens. That happens all 346 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the time. So how do you balance it? You need 347 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: mister Jefferson's money, you do not need his input. You're 348 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: not hiring a burger flipper. All due respect to burger flippers. 349 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: I've had jobs far less desirable than that before. I 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: longed to work in a burger king kitchen at one point. 351 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: And so you need the money, you don't need the input. 352 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Can you get the money without the input? Hopefully the 353 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: answer is yes. More times than not, the answer is 354 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: no good question. There though a lot of that that 355 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: goes on behind the scenes. And in fact, before I 356 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: move on a little side story here, let me tell 357 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: you if you want to know how much of a 358 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: boss Nick Saban is. Since I just mentioned him when 359 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: he came in the door in two thousand and seven 360 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: at Alabama, keep in mind he hadn't won his five 361 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: national titles there yet. In fact, he was going to 362 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: go on to lose to Louisiana Monroe and barely make 363 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: a bowl game that first year. But he knew who 364 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: he was, he knew where he wanted to go, and 365 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: everyone had confidence. I mean, it's not like he was 366 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: some nobody when he came in there. But when he 367 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: came in there, Alabama was a cesspool in a lot 368 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: of ways. Behind the scenes, there were a lot of 369 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: folks who were the mister Jefferson's of the world or worse. 370 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Mister Jefferson is purely made up. By the way, this 371 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: is not a code name for anyone else. He's purely 372 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: made up. Mister Jefferson is our imaginary booster, okay. And 373 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: they had a lot of mister Jefferson's worse. In fact, 374 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: they had folks just kind of running things that had 375 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: their hand in the pie. And this is the worst 376 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: of the worst kind, the kind that would rather the 377 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: program be mediocre and they have power, than the program 378 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: be great. And they be on the outside looking in. 379 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: That's bad. And they had it there. And Nick Saban 380 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: comes in and he understands he knows how that works 381 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He's seen it at multiple stops. So 382 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: he gets there, starts to get the lay of the land, 383 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: starts to understand the booster network, starts to understand, you know, 384 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the power structure that exists at Alabama. And I know 385 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: that story has been told about Malmore, you know, going 386 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: to Miami and refusing to leave until Nick Saban would 387 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: meet with him, and that story has been told us, 388 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: a great story. One of the aspects of that story 389 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: I have not heard told is what Saban did once 390 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: he got to Alabama. You know, he made demands, I'm 391 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: gonna need you to commit to this and this and that, 392 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: and he got a yes to all those because money 393 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be really an object for them. But 394 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: when he got there, there were more demands, and those 395 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: demands were I am not running a program where boosters 396 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: have a say so, and the way we run this thing, 397 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: that's not the way we're going to succeed, and that's 398 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: not the way I'm interested in doing it. And if 399 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the way that it's done here, I'm 400 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: not the guy for this job. I'll have zero tolerance 401 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: for it. I'm not the guy for you. So you 402 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: need to make up your mind who runs this place, 403 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: because if I take this job. I run this place. 404 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: So let me tell you what that meant. Nothing to 405 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: big time business types. They are alpha's in their own world. 406 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: They are in their world, in the business world and 407 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: whatever industry they're in. They are the Nick Sabans. They 408 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: don't get talked to like that. Okay, they look at 409 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and say, you know, with all due respect, 410 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: you draw up plays on a chalkboard, you play a game, 411 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: you coach a game for a living. I've made my 412 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: millions in business. I've sat in boardrooms. I wear suits 413 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: every day that are worth more than the scholarships you 414 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: give players. That's the attitude. So Saban walks in and 415 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: it is a clash of figurative titans in a sense 416 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: that you have egos on both sides. Well, Saban walked 417 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: in and he had the trump card. He had all 418 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the leverage. They needed him for that football program, a 419 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: lot more than he needed the football program, because he 420 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: could have just stayed in the NFL. And so what 421 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: he said when he got there was it's either going 422 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: to be them or me. Because it became obvious that 423 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: there were some donors at Alabama, there were some major 424 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: boosters at Alabama. I'm talking seven figure a year types 425 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: who were not going to be seven figure a year 426 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: types unless they had the influence and input that they 427 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: were used to having. They disassociated boosters. When Sabin got there, 428 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: they disassociated themselves with some seven figure per year donors. 429 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: Understand what I just said. Nick Saban's stroke was such 430 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: that when he walked in, he forced them to look 431 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: at folks who were handing them a million plus dollar 432 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: per year check and said, no, thanks, your money's no good. Here, 433 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: take it somewhere else. He took the check, got in 434 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: their face, ripped it up, and said, there's the door. 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stroke Nick Saban has. So Saban, notwithstanding, 436 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: that's the exception to the rule. Most coaches don't have 437 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: that power. But Saban walked in and said, I'm running 438 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: this thing. If you have any other folks out there 439 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: who own car dealerships, but since they have money or 440 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: under the illusion that they get to run part of 441 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: this too, you tell them they can run it. They're 442 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: just gonna run it and continue to go six and 443 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: six because I'm not gonna be the head coach here. 444 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: And guess what, Alabama chose Nick Saban over a dude 445 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: who owns a car dealership or ten or twenty, and 446 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: thus Alabama is what they are today. I think they've 447 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: made the right move. Scooter is next up, he says, 448 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm a burnt Orange loyalist. On one of your recent shows, 449 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: you said teams like OU and Texas should at worst 450 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: be one year away from competing at any given time, 451 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: since that's not the case for many teams that occupy 452 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: the top fifteen in the composite, and that is the 453 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports Composite ratings. Recruiting wise, could 454 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: you expound upon your thoughts during the next podcast regarding 455 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: why teams should turn it around quicker than they do Scooter, Yeah, 456 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: you accurately quoted me, so to reiterate for those who 457 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: may have missed that. What I was talking about with 458 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: teams like Oklahoma or Texas, teams that have all the 459 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: advantages is this isn't the NFL. That's the point. In 460 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, no one has all the advantages. Every team 461 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: is equal. You don't recruit there. It's not a place 462 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: where you have three times the budget in Kansas City 463 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: that you do in Jacksonville. Everything is made to balance 464 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: the scales in the NFL. And it is a parody 465 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: driven sport. Everything is made to force everything to the middle, 466 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: and so to rise up, you truly have to be great. Now, 467 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: if you suck, you'll still sink to the very bottom. 468 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: But the sport is trying its hardest to pull you up. 469 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: In college football, no one's trying to pull you up, 470 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: and no one's trying to pull you down. It's you 471 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: can be as good as you want to be. You 472 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: can suck as bad as you want to. But at 473 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Texas the point is, and Alabama and Ohio 474 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: State and Michigan, the point is, the sport is built 475 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: for you. The sport is tilted in your favor. Heavily 476 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: might I am in college football, the better you do, 477 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: the more you get rewarded, and over time, over the decades, 478 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: the better that you've done, you have cemented yourself into 479 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: a permanent upper class. That doesn't mean you always win, 480 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: but you always have a better shot at winning because 481 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: you have more built in advantages. You have better facilities 482 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: you built over the years. You have better prestige, better tradition, 483 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: better branding. You get better coverage that you don't even 484 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: have to pay for, which in turn sells your program 485 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: to the masses. For you, you also have obviously a 486 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: bigger as we just talked about donor network. You carry 487 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: the freight, you get a bigger say at the negotiating 488 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: table when it comes to conference matters, everything's tilted in 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: your favor. You probably got three times the recruiting budget 490 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: as the lower quarter of your conference does, just because 491 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: of who you are and what you've established over the years. 492 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: And with all that being said, this isn't the NFL. 493 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: The turnaround should not be a three or four year rebuild. 494 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: The reason sometimes it takes that. Tennessee is a good 495 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: example of this. There's no excuse why Tennessee has been 496 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: mired in the mediocrity and less that they've been mired in, 497 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: but they are that way because they made a few 498 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: bad decisions in a row. You can afford one bad decision, 499 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: you can't afford to make two or three of them 500 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: in a row, because then you bring yourself down to 501 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: the same level of programs with fractions of the resources 502 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: that you have. So you're not immune to it. I'm 503 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: not saying you're immune to it, you're just capable of 504 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: flying higher. It's like you know those spy planes that 505 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: fly way, way way above the Earth's surface, so high 506 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: that when you look up you see space instead of 507 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: just more blue sky. Like they're capable of flying that high. 508 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: They could crash, they could just like any other plane. 509 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: They could hope you're not flying this morning, folks. They 510 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: could crash. But at their best, look what they're capable of. 511 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: You can't take a commercial airliner or two hundred and 512 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand feet in the air. You can take those 513 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: spy planes that high. That's not an exact altitude, by 514 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: the way. I think it's more like seventy or eighty 515 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: thousand something like that. But you get my point. And 516 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: so with Texas and ou Texas, Texas has made several 517 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: bad decisions in a row. That's why they've been where 518 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: they've been. Oklahoma hasn't. Oh, Oklahoma's made good moves. And 519 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: so Oklahoma, let's say that, so they've lost two games 520 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: right now, they let's say they lose this weekend. Let's 521 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: say Oklahoma goes four losses this year. Let's just say 522 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: they do. I mean, that would be a terrible year 523 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: for Oklahoma. Do you have any reason to believe they 524 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: won't be a contender next year? Because I don't. I 525 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: think they'd be right there. I think they'd be a 526 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: contender the next year. The reason year over year recruiting. 527 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: It should not let them fall off. If they have 528 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: the right head coach, which I believe they do, and 529 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: they have the right infrastructure in place, which I believe 530 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: they do, there's never an excuse for that. Now. Conversely, 531 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: if we look in the SEC and we look at 532 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: a Kentucky, Kentucky, Mississippi state programs of that caliber, they 533 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: have to build two or three years ahead of time, 534 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: towards hopefully what I call a pop year, which is 535 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: where they exceed expectation. They can't maintain that altitude, they 536 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: can't cruise there because they don't have the resources relative 537 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: to the other teams that they compete against. And so 538 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: I always make excuses for those programs. Vanderbilt, Poor Vanderbilt. 539 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: I'll never advocate for anyone to ever be fired at Vanderbilt. 540 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't care if you go winless every year. I 541 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: would expect you to go winless every year. What resources 542 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: do you have? It's right here in my backyard, and 543 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Vanderbilt, there are several high school football 544 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: programs in the state of Texas with better facilities than Vanderbilt. 545 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: That's not a joke. I'm not even smiling while I 546 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: say it. That's dead serious. So you are so inferior 547 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: from a resources standpoint, why would I ever expect you 548 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: to compete? Conversely, if I walk through the hallways in 549 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: college station at Texas A and M, I look around 550 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: and say, how can you ever not compete with all this? 551 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I come from with that scooter. 552 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: Next up is Brendan. He said, could you please give 553 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: a quick breakdown of the Louisville versus Georgia Tech game 554 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Friday night? Well? Sure, I don't see why not. We're 555 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna go quick. This is not gonna be a ten 556 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: minute breakdown. The key for Georgia Tech here after they 557 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: started out hot against a Florida State team that, as 558 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: it turns out, everyone beats this year, almost including Jacksonville State. 559 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: The key here is you gotta make Louisville feel the 560 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: need to throw to beat you. Malie Cunningham has shown 561 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: flashes this year. That's the quarterback for Louisville. I think 562 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: he's got I want to say it's a nine to 563 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: five touchdown to interception. Ratio. So when he's good, he's good, 564 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: but when he's bad, he's bad too. So Javian Hawkins 565 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: is the running back there for Louisville. That will be 566 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: the name of the game for them, and if they 567 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: feel like they can control the game on the ground, 568 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: it greatly alleviates the need to stretch you through the 569 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: air to win. I think a lot will be dedicated 570 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: towards making them throw to whim and as a result, 571 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a turnover game. I think it's one 572 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: of those where you look at it and sometimes the 573 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: turnover margin is proportionate to the outcome. This is one 574 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: where I feel the turnover margin will be right in 575 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: line with the outcome. We have Louisville as a little 576 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: bit bigger favorite than the Vegas number does. We do 577 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: our own in house numbers, and so my number is 578 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: a little bit north of I believe four or four 579 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: and a half, which is what's out there right now. 580 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: So we would lean Louisville minus the points. But it's 581 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: certainly not what I'm confident enough in to make a 582 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: move on this week. We're gonna leave it alone and 583 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna watch it along with the rest of the world. 584 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: All right, Steven will wrap us up this morning. Which 585 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: game are you looking forward to the most this weekend? 586 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: For me, it's Florida A and m I'm a Gator fan, 587 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: so that's obvious. What about you? I could make an 588 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: argument if this were a debate, I would make an 589 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: argument for a number of games. Can you imagine if 590 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: Miami and Clemson is close in the fourth quarter? Can 591 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: you imagine that? Can you imagine the sudden rush of 592 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: viewership if you're not already watching to see if Miami 593 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: can actually do it? When is the last time that 594 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: you watched a conference game? And I'm not tad talking 595 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: about like a Syracuse game where they kind of randomly 596 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: pull an upset on Clemson or that Pit game where 597 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: they randomly pull an upset. When's the last time you 598 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: saw a team who not only had a shot at 599 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: upset in Clemson, but you thought it was legitimate. It 600 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: wasn't like just kind of a fly in the ointment 601 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: sort of deal where yeah, that team just beat Clemson, 602 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: but they'll still lose four games. How about a team 603 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: that could beat them and then also contend for the 604 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: ACC title? Like that's that could be what you're looking at. 605 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: If you turn that thing on in the fourth quarter 606 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Saturday night, and no, oh my goodness, look at Manny. 607 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Do you look at the Eric King? Go look at Miami. 608 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: Of course, Clemson could absolutely take care of business and 609 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: have you turn the game off by the time the 610 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: fourth quarter rolls around. I think Florida and A and 611 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: M has as much subtext and intrigue as any game 612 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: in America this weekend. A and M has to win 613 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: Saturday to put a finer point on it. If they 614 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: lose Saturday, they are all ready, for all intents and purposes, 615 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: out of the SEC race, already out of the college 616 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: football playoff race. Now you may not have them involved 617 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: in the race, but they have themselves involved in it. 618 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: That's how they fancy themselves. It's also a shot. I'm 619 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: going to go to a couple of quarterbacks here, so 620 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: let me tie in Tennessee and Georgia too. When you 621 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: try and run through various scenarios, sometimes what I try 622 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: and do is I try and map out what could 623 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Saturday night look like when the dust settles. What could 624 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: we be saying that we didn't expect to be saying. 625 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Here's one storyline that we could be saying that no 626 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: one would ever expect. What if at the end of 627 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: the day Saturday, we find ourselves looking around and saying, 628 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: how about that? Not only did Kellen Mond end up 629 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: having his career day, not only did Jarrett Guarantano end 630 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: up having his career day. It happened on the same Saturday, 631 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: and Tennessee pulled the upset on the back of Jarrett 632 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Guarantano making big plays and Kellen Mond restored order and 633 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: had a career day. For Texas A and M those 634 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: are both points spread underdogs, but those are both teams 635 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: with chances to win. What if it? Because you think 636 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: if Tennessee wins, you probably think ugly game, you think 637 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: turnover fest, you think ooh Man, ground and pound, and 638 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: they just kept themselves in it puncher's chance and then 639 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: in the end they pulled it off. What if Jared 640 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: Guarantano goes like twenty one for twenty eight for two 641 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five yards. I know it sounds very, 642 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: very very much a stretch against that Georgia defense, But 643 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, what if he did that? That's why we're 644 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: saying it in this context. It's unexpected, and what if 645 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Kellen Mond now that's probably a little bit easier to 646 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: picture someone having success against the Florida secondary, even though 647 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: this is a team getting some players back this week. 648 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: I just mentioned all the games that I think are 649 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: on the marquee, and then you also got the hurricane factor. 650 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, if if Alabama and Ole mess play as scheduled, 651 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: and I can only go on the information I have 652 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: as I'm recording early this Thursday morning, what does Lane 653 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Kiffin look like in sideways reign down thirty five points? 654 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not down thirty five points. Texas Oklahoma is 655 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: intriguing more from a sadistic point of view for those 656 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: of you outside the actual rivalry. A lot of people 657 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: are going to tune in for the same reason they 658 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: crane their neck when they look at a car wreck, 659 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: for better or for worse. That's the state of affairs 660 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: as the rest of America looks on at the Red 661 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: River shootout. So there's a lot to watch this weekend. 662 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: We got lay Kick Live coming up tonight Thursday night, 663 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: eight eastern, seventh Central on the twenty four seven Sports 664 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, So subscribe there if you haven't already. Our 665 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: numbers have been great there. Our numbers have been great 666 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: here too. Thank you so much for that. For producer 667 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: I got to get these names right. For producer Jordan, 668 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: and for myself. Give me whatever title you want to. 669 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so much for listening to the 670 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: lake Kick Extra Podcast. Have a great rest of your day, 671 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: have a great weekend, and God bless