WEBVTT - Let's Honor Shannen Doherty

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<v Speaker 1>This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Darney.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Let's Be Clear family. This is Lorraine, Shannon's producer.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that your love and support meant

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<v Speaker 2>so much to her and she looked forward to connecting

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<v Speaker 2>with you each week. In this episode, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>share some heartfelt messages and comforting words from people she

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<v Speaker 2>worked with throughout the years. Also, the Let's Be Clearer

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<v Speaker 2>team invites you to send in your message for Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>for a special fan tribute episode. Please call one eight

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<v Speaker 2>four four four Shando. That's one eight four four four

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<v Speaker 2>seven four two six three six. We will include as

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<v Speaker 2>many messages as we can and thank you again. This

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<v Speaker 2>one's for you, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>Holly Marie Combe starred as Shannon's sister Uncharmed, but their

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<v Speaker 3>real life friendship began years before that. Holly describes their

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<v Speaker 3>unbreakable bond and Shannon's unwavering support throughout the years.

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<v Speaker 4>I've tried for days to put my thoughts in order,

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<v Speaker 4>and my mind is just racing, and I think trying

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<v Speaker 4>to hang on to the memories. But this is probably

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<v Speaker 4>one of the hardest things I'm ever going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to do, and I think every step forward kind of

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<v Speaker 4>makes it a little bit more real, and I can

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<v Speaker 4>also hear her over here going make it good, better,

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<v Speaker 4>make it good. I think Shannon would be really pleasantly

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<v Speaker 4>surprised by the outbaring of love and emotion that has

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<v Speaker 4>come from so many different people in places, because she

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<v Speaker 4>really did often feel like the underdog and vilified, and

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<v Speaker 4>that she had to prove herself in so many different ways.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she'd be really surprised and shocked by how

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<v Speaker 4>many people have reached out and said really beautiful things

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<v Speaker 4>about her. Apparently she even texted some of my ex boyfriends,

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<v Speaker 4>which I'll have a conversation with her about that another day,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, no, that was uncalled for. But literally all

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<v Speaker 4>of her exes except for one who should say nothing

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<v Speaker 4>because nothing he can never say will ever make anything better.

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<v Speaker 4>I have said beautiful words, and so many people are

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<v Speaker 4>really torn up emotionally still, and it's just a testament

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<v Speaker 4>to who she was as a person as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>what you read or saul in a tabloid. And I

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<v Speaker 4>can definitely say I'm at the anger part. I'm at

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<v Speaker 4>the stage of grief that is making me angry, and

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<v Speaker 4>I keep looking online like I'm looking to pick a fight,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm looking for anything that anybody says negatively so

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<v Speaker 4>that I can correct them, and I'm really not finding

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<v Speaker 4>any I'm angry and I'm sad she doesn't get to

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<v Speaker 4>see the places that she wanted to. And I'm angry

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<v Speaker 4>and sad that once again I've lost, you know, that

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<v Speaker 4>person that you can call in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 4>to cancer. I've lost another friend to cancer. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard when you lose someone who should have and

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<v Speaker 4>really wanted to live along in full life, not just

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<v Speaker 4>for herself, but for other people in her family. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>when I went through tough times in my life, some

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<v Speaker 4>really horrible stuff, and one day I showed up on

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<v Speaker 4>her door step, and I didn't know how bad I

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<v Speaker 4>looked physically until I saw it on her face, and

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<v Speaker 4>I saw her face change, and I knew I must

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<v Speaker 4>have been pretty beat up. To her credit, she never

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<v Speaker 4>shied away, she never took a step back, and if

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<v Speaker 4>something was wrong, she went full end to help me

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<v Speaker 4>fix it. And I think that's because she had seen

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<v Speaker 4>so much pain and trauma in her own life that

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't want to see anybody else go through it.

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<v Speaker 4>And whether it was me or my kids. She was

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<v Speaker 4>literally always a phone call away. So it's heart. I

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<v Speaker 4>spent all day looking all day yesterday looking for a picture,

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<v Speaker 4>one picture that I cannot find, and I'm sure this

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<v Speaker 4>amuses her. And I found a bunch of other pictures

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<v Speaker 4>from twenty thirty years ago, and you know, I for

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<v Speaker 4>one split second I saw one that I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I should send this.

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<v Speaker 5>To her, because it's so unbelievable that, even knowing she

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<v Speaker 5>was sick, we just thought we had more time.

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<v Speaker 4>And she definitely did think she had more time. So

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<v Speaker 4>I guess for me, that's the lesson is that you

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<v Speaker 4>think you have time, but you don't. And not many

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<v Speaker 4>people could do what Sheannon did in one day. She

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<v Speaker 4>was just like a tornado of energy.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think that's the thing to take away from

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<v Speaker 6>all of this is you think you have time, and

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<v Speaker 6>so you know, she would give me an awful hard

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<v Speaker 6>time that I don't say I love you enough.

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<v Speaker 4>To anyone. It's not on a like you know, personal oasis,

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<v Speaker 4>but to anyone in general. And so I would say, Krishannon,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, tell the people you love that you love

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<v Speaker 4>and live like there is no tomorrow, because that's what

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<v Speaker 4>she did, and Okay, have a nice day.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a Beverly Hills nine two to one oh

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<v Speaker 3>fan since his days working at a convenience store in

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey. As an aspiring director, he could never have

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<v Speaker 3>imagined he would one day cast Brenda Walsh in one

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<v Speaker 3>of his first films, Mal Rats. Kevin Smith remembers his

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<v Speaker 3>dear friend, who affectionately nicknamed Do Dough.

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<v Speaker 7>When I was in my early twenties and I was

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<v Speaker 7>working at this little convenience dur in New Jersey called

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<v Speaker 7>quick Stop, we had no cable TV. The Internet was

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<v Speaker 7>still years away, so I started bringing into TV with

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<v Speaker 7>rabbit ears. I was there by myself most of the day,

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<v Speaker 7>so I bring a TV, plug it in and had

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<v Speaker 7>antennas so you can turn the dial and watch like

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<v Speaker 7>four channels maybe came in. One of them came in

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<v Speaker 7>very well with Fox, So I watched nine oh two

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<v Speaker 7>one Ohero from the beginning Man and there. I'd be

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<v Speaker 7>working at nights at quick Stop and I would have

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<v Speaker 7>it on. I would also tape it at the same time,

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<v Speaker 7>because sometimes you get busy helping customers, and so I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't want to miss anything. If I did, I'd be

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<v Speaker 7>able to roll it back again, we didn't have any

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<v Speaker 7>streaming services or anything like that at this point. So

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<v Speaker 7>I remember my my I think it was Thursday nights,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe Wednesday nights, sitting at quick Stop watching the Little

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<v Speaker 7>Girl from Heather's you know, in her own show. I'd

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<v Speaker 7>seen and Shannon, like you know, saw Shannon and in

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<v Speaker 7>uh Nightshift, Ron Howard's Nightshift where she was like mugger,

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<v Speaker 7>So I knew who she was. And of course we

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<v Speaker 7>all loved others. So when you know, nine oh two

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<v Speaker 7>and oh kicked off, it's like, oh, that's the that's

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<v Speaker 7>the Header's girl. And to say that that show was

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<v Speaker 7>a pop cultural phenomenon as a complete understatement. It broke

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<v Speaker 7>the Internet before the Internet even existed. But I would

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<v Speaker 7>watch you know, Brenda's Adventures with Dylan, Kelly Brandon and Donna.

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<v Speaker 7>And then one day I made a movie and they

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<v Speaker 7>were like, great, now you get to make another movie.

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<v Speaker 7>And when I was making that second movie, before I

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<v Speaker 7>made it, friend of mine was like, you should get

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<v Speaker 7>Shannon Doherty from All Rats and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 7>my god, I hadn't thought of that, Like, really you

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<v Speaker 7>think she'd do it? I mean she just left nine

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<v Speaker 7>oh two and oh and my friend Malcolm's like, she's up.

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<v Speaker 7>She'll totally do it. Man, She's She's an American icon.

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<v Speaker 7>So they said way back in nineteen ninety five, ninety four,

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<v Speaker 7>or we even start shooting in ninety five. And so

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<v Speaker 7>I told Shannon when I was on her podcast, when

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<v Speaker 7>I was on listening clear that you know, when I

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<v Speaker 7>went to work on Alrets, when we went to Minnesota

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<v Speaker 7>to shoot the movie, it was almost as if you

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<v Speaker 7>know the business, Hollywood whatever, you know, I'd arrived with

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<v Speaker 7>my first movie, but here I was about to take

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<v Speaker 7>make my second movie, first with the studio, first with

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<v Speaker 7>a real budget. And the first person from the industry

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<v Speaker 7>to meet me over this bridge that I crossed thanks

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<v Speaker 7>to making clerks, the first person in the business of

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<v Speaker 7>professional who was there to welcome me was Shannon. And

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<v Speaker 7>I always found that wonderful and bittersweet and ironic that

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<v Speaker 7>I spent so many nights watching her on this little

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<v Speaker 7>television grainy TV, and then I saw her in all

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<v Speaker 7>her glory in real life, no grain whatsoever. I had

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<v Speaker 7>a crush on her then I'll always have a crush

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<v Speaker 7>on her. She was a force of nature. She was

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<v Speaker 7>a wonderful Renee in malrats, and I'm so lucky that

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<v Speaker 7>I got to work with her. I mean, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 7>I was lucky to have known her at all. I

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<v Speaker 7>love you, Shan See at the mall one day.

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<v Speaker 3>He played Brenda Walsh's father, Jim Walsh on Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 3>nine O two one oh. He appeared with Shannon in

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eleven episodes and remembers her warmth on

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<v Speaker 3>the set. James Eckhouse, Hi, James Ekhouse, I played Shn's

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<v Speaker 3>dad to went out one of many worlds.

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<v Speaker 8>Shannon brought her effervescent spirit too. Had huge influence upon

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<v Speaker 8>my heartaches for Shenon's family, friends, and fans. You were

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<v Speaker 8>a ferocious spirit. You were ferocious in your work, your talent.

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<v Speaker 8>You're ferocious in your love. You're ferocious in your courageous

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<v Speaker 8>battle with cancer. I really loved working with you both

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<v Speaker 8>as actor and director. Yeah, you always brought all of

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<v Speaker 8>your heart to every.

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<v Speaker 9>Scene, and when I brought my young kids to the set,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm forever grateful to you for being so welcoming, so kind.

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<v Speaker 8>They never forgot that we honor you and we treasure you.

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<v Speaker 8>You will be sorely missed.

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<v Speaker 3>He played Leo on one hundred and forty five episodes

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<v Speaker 3>of Charmed. He remembers how supportive Shannon was from his

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<v Speaker 3>very first day on the set and how warm she

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<v Speaker 3>was as a friend ever since.

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<v Speaker 10>Hello, all yeah, let's be clear podcast listeners, fans of

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<v Speaker 10>Shannon Doherty. Incredible, amazing Shannon Doherty. This is Brian Kraus

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<v Speaker 10>from Charmed.

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<v Speaker 11>Leo.

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<v Speaker 10>I just wanted to share a quick moment about Shannon

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<v Speaker 10>and how we met and when we met and how

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<v Speaker 10>she's changed my life.

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<v Speaker 12>I imagined when.

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<v Speaker 10>Before our palc is about myself getting on the show.

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<v Speaker 12>I had met Shannon before, you.

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<v Speaker 10>Know, out of the club and of Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 10>all that was in the nineties, and so when I

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<v Speaker 10>got on the show up Charmed, I was really nervous to.

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<v Speaker 12>Show up and perform in front of her.

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<v Speaker 10>I knew the stakes were raised that you know, I

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<v Speaker 10>had heard rumors and blah blah blah. And I got on,

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<v Speaker 10>I knew my lines, I did my thing, and she

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<v Speaker 10>just looked over him and she kind of gave a

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<v Speaker 10>little wink in a good job, and you know, to

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<v Speaker 10>get her approval that I had formed well and done well.

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<v Speaker 10>It meant everything.

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<v Speaker 12>And then when.

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<v Speaker 10>I was told I was going to be a regular

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<v Speaker 10>on the show, it was actually Shannon who had said

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<v Speaker 10>to me, because when you had powers on Charmed, you

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<v Speaker 10>usually were a bad guy and you died. And she

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<v Speaker 10>took me aside and she said, no, you're a good guy,

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<v Speaker 10>and you're going to stick around, and you just keep

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<v Speaker 10>doing what you're doing and you'll be around for a while.

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<v Speaker 10>And it was her way of saying, you know, good job,

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<v Speaker 10>keep showing up and keep kicking ass and kind of

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<v Speaker 10>joining me, opening her wings and allowing me to be

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<v Speaker 10>a part of her family. And I was so honored

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<v Speaker 10>by it that Charmed had this let's kick some ass

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<v Speaker 10>and make really good entertainment, and that was all Shannon

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<v Speaker 10>at the Helm and setting the standard of what professionalism was.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'll never forget it. And I've been so lucky

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<v Speaker 10>the last few years to have gotten to know her

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<v Speaker 10>as we've done comic cons and this podcast, and to

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<v Speaker 10>know Shannon is a human and her enduring spirit.

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<v Speaker 12>Of anything as possible.

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<v Speaker 10>And if I could say anything to let's be clear fans,

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<v Speaker 10>Shannon really believed anything was possible with hard work, determination

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<v Speaker 10>of vision, let's go get it.

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<v Speaker 12>And I don't think.

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<v Speaker 10>I ever should heard her say I don't know how,

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<v Speaker 10>or oh what if, or it can't. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 10>part of her For Cabin Larry, it was oh, we've

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<v Speaker 10>run into a wall. Okay, let's fix this, let's get

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<v Speaker 10>this done, let's do this. No, let's take action. And

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<v Speaker 10>I think anything I could pass on that rubbed off

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<v Speaker 10>on me that meant so much was our work ethic

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<v Speaker 10>and desire to do what she wanted to do and

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<v Speaker 10>live fearlessly. And I'm going to take that with me

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<v Speaker 10>and try and do it every day, every day, every day.

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<v Speaker 10>I love Shannon so much and I wish I got

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<v Speaker 10>a chance to tell her that she's an amazing, amazing

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<v Speaker 10>human being. And I want to thank you all that

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<v Speaker 10>listened to our podcast or watched Charmed and followed Shannon

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<v Speaker 10>that may have crossed over to us, because any piece

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<v Speaker 10>of that was just a byproduct being a fan of hers,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm sure made you a fan of ours. And I

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<v Speaker 10>just feel really lucky that I was able to be

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<v Speaker 10>a part of it. I'm forever grateful for her friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>He played her nephew, Chris halliwell Uncharmed and was one

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<v Speaker 3>of her co hosts on her latest project, the House

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<v Speaker 3>of Hallowell podcast Drew Fuller.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, this is Drew Fuller, Shannon's friend and co host

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<v Speaker 13>on The House Haliwell and in honor of her, Let's

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<v Speaker 13>be very clear, Shannon was a warrior. She faced adversity

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<v Speaker 13>head on with everything that she got and refused to

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<v Speaker 13>be a victim. She lived her life with so much passion,

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<v Speaker 13>with love and a fearlessness that I will strive daily

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<v Speaker 13>to replicate. She's inspired, hired millions of people, She's inspired me,

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<v Speaker 13>and I will love her forever, and I hope each

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<v Speaker 13>and every one of you listening will honor her spirit

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<v Speaker 13>by living the way she lived.

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<v Speaker 3>He played inspector Darryl Morris in seventy eight episodes of Charmed.

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon won him over from his first day on the set,

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<v Speaker 3>Dorian Gregory, when.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm coong, remember me with a smile and the laughter

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<v Speaker 14>and the joy that we shared together, and that way it.

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<v Speaker 15>Will live forever sentimens.

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<v Speaker 14>I couldn't say it or express the wish Shannon does,

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<v Speaker 14>but I was impacted by that.

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<v Speaker 15>First thing on set. I heard this amazing laughter.

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<v Speaker 14>I looked around the corner and it was Holly and

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<v Speaker 14>Shannon sharing a moment have.

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<v Speaker 15>Such genuine, real laughter.

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<v Speaker 14>I walked over first days awkward, she welcomed me warmly,

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<v Speaker 14>and that was and then a lot.

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<v Speaker 15>I come from a house of strong women to turn.

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<v Speaker 14>Accomplished and sharp as sharks, sharp as sharkingby.

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<v Speaker 15>That was him.

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<v Speaker 14>My father passed from cancer, and my woman's mother passed

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<v Speaker 14>with cancer.

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<v Speaker 15>A longbow, So I have a little idea of.

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<v Speaker 14>What happens on the day to day. I say this

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<v Speaker 14>because I remember Shannon a year ago and her autographs

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<v Speaker 14>on me. It's the last time I actually was there

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<v Speaker 14>physically around her and her wit and her warmth and

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<v Speaker 14>her energy and her strength just as strong as ever,

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<v Speaker 14>and her generosity and care for her fans of making

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<v Speaker 14>him feel individual in her and.

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<v Speaker 15>Important as she always has.

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<v Speaker 14>In every convention I've been with her, every time i've

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<v Speaker 14>been in her presence. A week ago we did a

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<v Speaker 14>podcasts and Shannon and sharing her years of experience in

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<v Speaker 14>this distance and the ends and outs and the ups

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<v Speaker 14>and downs, and her artistic affectionism, and that was so

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<v Speaker 14>wonderful to hear, and her excitement about life. So I remember, Fred,

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<v Speaker 14>you've been packing, Bennie, and with love, I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon Doherty appeared in eight episodes of the two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and eight nine O two one oh reboot. In that

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<v Speaker 3>short time, she made an immense impact on actress. She

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<v Speaker 3>remembers how Shannon took her under her wing and taught

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<v Speaker 3>her to embrace her own strength.

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<v Speaker 16>I owe more to Shannon than I'm sure she ever knew,

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<v Speaker 16>than most people know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, my voice is already shaking.

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<v Speaker 16>If it weren't for Shannon, I would not be who

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<v Speaker 16>I am in so many more ways than one. I

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<v Speaker 16>had the good fortune of being cast on the spin

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<v Speaker 16>off series of nine O two one to zero in

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<v Speaker 16>two thousand and eight, playing the character Annie Wilson, who

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<v Speaker 16>was part of the brother's sister duo that moved from

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<v Speaker 16>a small town to Beverly Hills. And the only reason

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<v Speaker 16>why that happened is because Shannon Doherty created one of

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<v Speaker 16>the most iconic characters ever to be on television in

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<v Speaker 16>my opinion, and I think a lot of people would.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree with me on that one. Obviously, mister Aaron Spelling created.

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<v Speaker 16>That series, but it was the cast, and namely Shannon Doherty.

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<v Speaker 16>She created the character that we all fell in love with,

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<v Speaker 16>and it is because of her and the nine to

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<v Speaker 16>two ONO cast that my show ever existed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had the incredible fortune.

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<v Speaker 16>Of stepping into a tiny version of her shoes and.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully follow into her footsteps in a way that made

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon proud.

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<v Speaker 16>Because Shannon was so warm and so lovely and so

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<v Speaker 16>fiercely strong and unapologetic, and she is the type of

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<v Speaker 16>woman that I have always aspired to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was watching her do it despite.

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<v Speaker 16>Everything that she was met with and continue to forge ahead,

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<v Speaker 16>being true to who she was that gave me the

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<v Speaker 16>confidence to do the same, no matter how much resistance

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<v Speaker 16>I've been met with throughout my life. Because of that,

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<v Speaker 16>and there, I've said it before, There's really not been

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<v Speaker 16>much of a blueprint for how to be a strong,

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<v Speaker 16>unapologeticly strong woman in a world and society that is

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<v Speaker 16>so determined to tell you not to.

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<v Speaker 1>But she did it.

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<v Speaker 16>She did it, and she, as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 16>is one of the very few that is the blueprint.

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<v Speaker 16>It's women like Shannon Doherty that give the rest of

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<v Speaker 16>us permission and confidence to demand what we deserve, stand

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<v Speaker 16>up for ourselves, and not take any shit. And I

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<v Speaker 16>hope I'm allowed to say that, but I think Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be okay with it.

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<v Speaker 16>In my short time of getting the job on I

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<v Speaker 16>two zero and starting to film and being a part

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<v Speaker 16>of the tabloid fodder and media craze that was at

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<v Speaker 16>that time, it was only a little why into that

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<v Speaker 16>process and that experience that I met Shannon and had

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<v Speaker 16>the privilege to actually work with her portraying the character

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<v Speaker 16>of Brenda alongside.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on NINEO two and O.

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<v Speaker 16>And at that point, already in just a short window

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<v Speaker 16>of time, I had been so mentally broken down by

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<v Speaker 16>the experience. You know, I was eighteen when I moved

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<v Speaker 16>out to La to take on the job. I was

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<v Speaker 16>by myself, left my family back home, really didn't know

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<v Speaker 16>anybody other than my cast. And the behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 16>drama that Beverly Hills Nino two and O was known

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<v Speaker 16>for definitely was recreated behind the scenes of our spinoff

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<v Speaker 16>of nine O two and O as well. And I

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<v Speaker 16>think Shannon and I am not having ever spoken about it,

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<v Speaker 16>but I think a lot of our experiences, or the

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<v Speaker 16>experiences I had, mirrored a lot of the experiences that

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<v Speaker 16>she had. Meeting her that day in the trailer, I

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<v Speaker 16>was so excit because she was my favorite character from

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<v Speaker 16>the original show. I had watched it with my mom

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<v Speaker 16>growing up, so I was a super fan of her already,

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<v Speaker 16>and I think, you know, brown hair like, she was

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<v Speaker 16>the gorgeous brunette for the show, so I felt most

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<v Speaker 16>like tied to her, and I was so nervous meeting her,

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<v Speaker 16>and she literally just like welcomed me into her trailer

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<v Speaker 16>with the biggest smile and the warmest hug, and it

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<v Speaker 16>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if she meant to communicate this

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<v Speaker 1>with her hug, but.

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<v Speaker 16>It made me feel so seen and like I was

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<v Speaker 16>not alone in everything that I was experiencing at that time,

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<v Speaker 16>because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a lot.

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<v Speaker 16>It was a lot for an eighteen nineteen year old

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<v Speaker 16>girl to go through. And getting that hug from her,

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<v Speaker 16>knowing that she experienced so much at times a million

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<v Speaker 16>when she was my age, like, was everything to me

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<v Speaker 16>because all I saw with this was this beautiful, strong

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<v Speaker 16>woman who was so resilient, who had made it out

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<v Speaker 16>of that experience still with her chin held high, fire

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<v Speaker 16>in her belly and being true to who she was,

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<v Speaker 16>and to me, that was Shannon Doherty. So you know,

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<v Speaker 16>it's no surprise to me that she went on to

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<v Speaker 16>fight this very long battle as fiercely as she did,

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<v Speaker 16>and I, you know, I'm gutted that I never had

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<v Speaker 16>the opportunity to get back in touch with her. I

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<v Speaker 16>tried to kind of connect through people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 16>I was so young when we met, and our paths

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<v Speaker 16>literally never crossed again. Otherwise, you know, having made it

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<v Speaker 16>through that experience, learning everything that I did, fighting so

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<v Speaker 16>hard to maintain that Shannon energy that.

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<v Speaker 17>Existed within me, and that she gave me the confidence

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<v Speaker 17>to hold on to despite it all, I would have loved, loved,

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<v Speaker 17>loved to, you know, just share this with her, but

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<v Speaker 17>I didn't get that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 16>And it's truly such an honor to be able to

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<v Speaker 16>share these words with the listener of her podcast, which

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<v Speaker 16>I know is a really important passion project for her.

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<v Speaker 16>And I know that the fans listening to this love

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 16>Shannon as much and as deeply as I do. And

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<v Speaker 16>I know that her memory will live on for a

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<v Speaker 16>very very long time as the blueprint.

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<v Speaker 18>The queen of the Badasses that give us all permission

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<v Speaker 18>and confidence to be who we are, to demand respect,

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<v Speaker 18>and to never settle for anything less.

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<v Speaker 1>Than what we deserve.

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<v Speaker 16>So I am eternally grateful to her, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 16>she's listening somewhere, and I hope that the message comes

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<v Speaker 16>through loud and clear. Just thank you, Thank you, Shannon

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<v Speaker 16>Doherty for genuinely, on so how many levels making me

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<v Speaker 16>the woman that I am today.

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<v Speaker 3>He starred with Shannon on Little House on the Prairie.

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<v Speaker 19>Hi, everyone, my name is Dean Butler. I played Almanzel

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 19>Wilder on the NBC series Little House on the Prairie.

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<v Speaker 19>I worked with Shannon Doherty forty years ago when Shannon

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<v Speaker 19>joined the cast of Little House to play the role

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 19>of Jenny Wilder, my niece on the series. When we

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 19>met Shannon for the first time at the beginning of

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 19>season nine of Little House, she made a very strong impression.

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<v Speaker 19>And that impression there were a couple of things. One,

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 19>she was talented. There was no doubt that Shannon had

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 19>a gift. And the other thing that you couldn't miss

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 19>about Shannon is that Shannon was determined to make something

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<v Speaker 19>of herself in the entertainment industry. She had one of

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 19>the most powerful motors in that area that I've ever

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 19>seen in all the years that I've been around our industry.

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<v Speaker 19>Shannon left us way too soon, but not unlike someone

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 19>else that she and I both worked with on Little House,

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 19>Michael Landon, who died at the age of fifty four

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 19>from pancreatic cancer. Shannon fit a lot of life into

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 19>her fifty three years, and she will be remembered for it.

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<v Speaker 19>As we celebrate fifty years of Little House on the

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<v Speaker 19>Prairie this year, it's very important to me that people

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 19>know and remember that Shannon was a part and a

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<v Speaker 19>special part of Little House on the Prairie, one of

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 19>the great family dramas in the history of television. It

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 19>was early in her career, but she'll be remembered for

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 19>the work that she did with us, and the work

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 19>she did with so many other people in so many

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 19>other shows projects for years to come. I sent my

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 19>most heartfelt condolences to Shannon's family and friends and fans

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 19>all over the world who are thinking a lot about

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 19>her right now. Shannon will be remembered.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 15>She wanted that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Tory Spelling's younger brother, Randy, was still a child when

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>he first met Shannon Doherty. He was struck by her

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 3>beauty and personality, and that admiration continued throughout his life.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 20>Randy's Spelling ever since I saw that smile on Little

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 20>House on the Prairie. It just lit up the screen.

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<v Speaker 20>And Shannon lit up the screen, every screen that she

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<v Speaker 20>was on. She lit up a room, every room that

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 20>she was in. She just had this energy about her,

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 20>and she was small and she was slight, but she

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 20>just had such a big presence and energy that you

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 20>could feel tough at times, soft and sweet at times.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 20>We had some beautiful exchanges over Instagram before we got

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 20>a chance to reconnect when she was on our podcast Oldish,

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 20>and that was really a thrill for me. I was

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 20>shocked because just a few months ago there was so

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 20>much life in her. I just did not see this

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 20>coming so soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 20>I just have the best memories of her with my

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 20>sister Tory coming over to the house and I watched

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 20>my first Madonna concert on TV with them, and I

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 20>think they were both wearing white VNX at the time.

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<v Speaker 20>Shannon used to love white VNX. When I think of Shannon,

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<v Speaker 20>I always think of a white v neck and that smile. Shannon,

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<v Speaker 20>and you will be so missed. You will always be

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<v Speaker 20>my first legitimate crush. And I know you were greeted

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<v Speaker 20>by so many loved ones thank you for being you

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<v Speaker 20>and for being so committed to that which you believed

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<v Speaker 20>in and showing that to the world. No matter what

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 20>it was, you had this incredible commitment and tenacity and

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<v Speaker 20>drive and passion to go after what it is that

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<v Speaker 20>you believed in.

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<v Speaker 3>He played Andrea Zuckerman's husband Jesse on Beverly Hills nine

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<v Speaker 3>oh two one oh Mark Damon Espinoza tells us what

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<v Speaker 3>he'll always remember about Shannon Doherty.

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<v Speaker 11>I know how hard it is to watch people you

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<v Speaker 11>love fight so hard against such a formidable opponent. Shannon

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 11>shan gave it hell and the spirits she's known for

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<v Speaker 11>and and frankly will be remembered for I shall continue

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<v Speaker 11>to inspire a lot of others to fight as well.

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<v Speaker 11>So know that I send my best to all of

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 11>you right now at this difficult time. Our paths didn't

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 11>cross nearly as much as I wish they had. You know,

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 11>we only ever shared a handful of scenes. Our storylines

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 11>were always going in different directions, and I'm really sorry

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 11>we didn't have more opportunities to actually work together on screen.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 11>She was a terrific actress. However, when we did pass

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 11>on the set at the studio wherever we were, you know,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 11>make up, trailer or wardrobe or whatever. She was always

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 11>really really nice to me. And at the time, it

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<v Speaker 11>would have been very easy for me to be intimidated.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I was working with some of, if not

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<v Speaker 11>the most famous young people on the planet at that time.

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<v Speaker 11>They didn't have to be nice. Shannon was, however, And

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<v Speaker 11>I'll always remember that one quick added. It was years

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<v Speaker 11>after not a two one oh, and she was shooting

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<v Speaker 11>something at the gym where I was working out. I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not sure. I think it was a TV movie or

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 11>something something like that, and I was a mess. I

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 11>was just coming from a run and I was sweaty,

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 11>and but she saw me from a good distance away

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<v Speaker 11>and stopped production, came over to me, gave me this

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<v Speaker 11>huge hug and wanted to know how I was doing.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 11>And she didn't let me go until I told her.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, not everyone would hug a sweaty guy at

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<v Speaker 11>the gym after they've been in hair and makeup and

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 11>and have a crew waiting. But that that's that's a

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<v Speaker 11>shann and I'll keep in my heart, you know. That's

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 11>that's the one I'll remember for the rest of my

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<v Speaker 11>my own life. You know, none of us are immortal,

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 11>and our time is far too short. Hers was far,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 11>far too short. But her energy, her her fight, her spirit,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 11>That'll live on.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll live on, he appealed in three episodes of Beverly

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Hill's nine O two to one oh, but it was

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>later in life that he was able to experience Shannon's warmth.

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<v Speaker 3>David Lasher, Hi, it's David Lasher.

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<v Speaker 21>I just wanted to share my sadness and my memories

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 21>about Shannon. You know, I always admired her for being

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 21>such a strong woman. She knew what exactly what her

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 21>voice was. She didn't pander to anybody. And when I

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 21>did those nine oh two one oh episodes, I became

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 21>closer with Jenny and Tory. My scenes weren't with Shannon,

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 21>and she was a tough nut to crack, to be honest,

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 21>she was guarded, but then we became friendly. When she

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 21>married my friend Ashley Hamilton, it was a brief marriage,

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 21>but I spent a lot of time at her house

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 21>and I stood up at their wedding with only a

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 21>few people and we then I really got to know her,

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 21>and she had this she had this soft side to

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 21>her that I think a lot of people didn't know,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 21>and she was a beautiful soul, and to see such

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 21>a strong person have to fight the fight that she

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 21>went through was so heartbreaking and I really thought she

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 21>was winning. And I'm just so sad and heartbroken, and

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 21>I love her soul and I hope she's at peace.