Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermin and John
Speaker 1: Harris with you. Training Camp day two in the books.
Speaker 1: We've got an open practice tomorrow at the Houston Methodist
Speaker 1: Training Center at a big show for you. Tonight you'll
Speaker 1: hear best of Nick Cassario or visit with him, and
Speaker 1: usually Thursday nights we have the General, but we'll have
Speaker 1: a little bit of the best of General from this
Speaker 1: morning and we'll catch up with him tomorrow morning as
Speaker 1: well at eight point thirty at the field fifty yard
Speaker 1: line seats.
Speaker 2: So nice.
Speaker 1: And also Alex Bachman Turner overdrive. I added the turner
Speaker 1: over drive. It's Alex Bachman with Johnny Harris tonight, Jacob
Speaker 1: Martin with deep bcity tonight and m J Stewart little
Speaker 1: appearance from him as well as we get rolling here. Johnny,
Speaker 1: I know you had a chance to watch a ton
Speaker 1: of practice.
Speaker 2: Am I seeing things?
Speaker 1: Or is there more team work meaning eleven on eleven
Speaker 1: done in this camp than maybe any other camp we've
Speaker 1: ever seen as far.
Speaker 2: As through two days.
Speaker 3: So I tracked yesterday just kind of time just looking
Speaker 3: at practice and when will when we would get off
Speaker 3: the air, and what I could see in practice, and
Speaker 3: yesterday being Wednesday, they started seven on seven. I looked
Speaker 3: up and we were in the middle of Landry's camp questions.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, all right, let's get through these,
Speaker 3: so I can I can get over there, and so
Speaker 3: I was able to see kind of the last three
Speaker 3: or four reps seven on seven that saw all the
Speaker 3: team stuff today. When we got off there, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm watching and I'm like, okay, it's time for seven
Speaker 3: on seven. Well, they went a few extra minutes with
Speaker 3: special teams and then they went right to team and
Speaker 3: do any seven on seven today.
Speaker 2: So they did four.
Speaker 3: Four as I kind of four team sessions, so that
Speaker 3: team one, team two or periods team one, period team two,
Speaker 3: team three, team four. Then they had a special teams
Speaker 3: in there, and coach got smart. Well, coach is smart.
Speaker 3: The entire organization is smart, because he had I think
Speaker 3: ten minutes for e shows team periods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he shut him down after like eight and a half.
Speaker 1: Well, I found out why they got all the reps
Speaker 1: in they've been working quickly and efficiently.
Speaker 2: Was to help with the heat. But either way, say
Speaker 2: they could he was per team period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they get them done with eight thirty on
Speaker 1: the clock or one thirty left or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: they'll just shut down the period it has not ended early.
Speaker 1: So that's what went down today, And I thought that
Speaker 1: was pretty cool that they're working efficiently.
Speaker 3: I thought that was for the heat, but either way,
Speaker 3: it's good. It's good that they're doing things efficiently. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a lot of team stuff, but but that's fine.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of the sexy stuff that we
Speaker 3: all like to see. The nuts and ultimate start on Sunday.
Speaker 3: When you put the pads on, now you can really
Speaker 3: do You can do your inside stuff. You can do
Speaker 3: nine and seven, you could do seven on seven with pads.
Speaker 3: You know, you can have receivers doing stock block trails.
Speaker 3: You can do one on one and be physical with
Speaker 3: the wide receivers and the dB. So that that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff I think will be more on on Sunday.
Speaker 3: And they've kind of been at this this type of
Speaker 3: practice since what or mid May? Yeah, late May, so
Speaker 3: you know, get through some team stuff, you work on
Speaker 3: some stuff. I feel like the offense bounce back today.
Speaker 3: Draw Johnson, you know, walked out the field and we
Speaker 3: were talking a little bit as he was leaving the
Speaker 3: field and He's like, we got better today, and it
Speaker 3: was true they did. They got better today. I thought
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks do the ball better. I still think the
Speaker 3: secondary had straps. I mean they just they were strapping
Speaker 3: the whole day.
Speaker 2: They had.
Speaker 3: This secondary could be really, really good. And I start
Speaker 3: my my Harris hits with the throw that CJ. Stroud
Speaker 3: makes are made to to Noah Brown on our sideline, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I mean that throw is yeah, it's unbelievable. I break
Speaker 3: it all down so you can you can see that.
Speaker 3: But to me, the story of today, and really I
Speaker 3: think could be the story of the season. I'll just
Speaker 3: put it as one in five. I think Jimmy Ward
Speaker 3: with Jaylen Petrie is gonna be outstanding. I cannot I
Speaker 3: cannot wait to watch those two together. The very first
Speaker 3: playoff team Jimmy came out of the middle of the field,
Speaker 3: the middle of the field coverage. He saw where I
Speaker 3: think it was Davis at quarterback at that point, I believe,
Speaker 3: but swore Davis want to throw the ball, made a
Speaker 3: break for it. I mean, he's ten years in the
Speaker 3: league and he just looks. Spry gets over there. He
Speaker 3: ended up dropping the interception. But the fact that he
Speaker 3: was there, the fact that he was there.
Speaker 2: Making those plays.
Speaker 3: Jalen Petree broke up a hitch route in man coverage
Speaker 3: against Tank Dell.
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, those.
Speaker 3: Two guys are just They're around the ball. They can interchange,
Speaker 3: they can play up, they can play down. There's so
Speaker 3: much that those two can do. I think I think
Speaker 3: the identity is team up front. You know, those guys
Speaker 3: you know talk trash. They're not boisterouster, not out going,
Speaker 3: you know, all that kind of stuff. You know, linebackers
Speaker 3: just do their work. Not saying that. Jimmy and Jalen
Speaker 3: you know, do that. But I think there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a ton of leadership coming from those two safeties.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a guy for you that's gonna go
Speaker 1: into bubble rep after Sunday's practice.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: If he has a great practice on Sunday, I might
Speaker 1: shut him down into bubble wrap. Now that's not literally
Speaker 1: gonna happen because Demico won't listen to me on this one.
Speaker 1: But Damian Pierce is a very good football player, and
Speaker 1: he had this just ends breaking news. You cannot get
Speaker 1: this kind of information anywhere else.
Speaker 2: He had all right, so there are no paths.
Speaker 1: He had a run today though, where I thought that
Speaker 1: was gonna be a good run no matter what the
Speaker 1: situation was. And then he had a couple of catches Johnny,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I even said to you during the practice,
Speaker 1: they need to throw the ball at Piers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: I know that third down back and we talk about
Speaker 1: this with first and second down backs versus third down backs.
Speaker 1: And I love Devin Singletary and I want to see
Speaker 1: plenty of them, but I want to see the ball
Speaker 1: in Pierce's hands any which way you can get the
Speaker 1: ball there. And I think they're gonna be throwing a
Speaker 1: Piers sometimes because he made a couple of catches off
Speaker 1: throws that were not errant, but there were just tough
Speaker 1: catches out of traffic, out of a traffic pocket situation,
Speaker 1: and he made a one hander I thought showed a
Speaker 1: lot of his ball skill ability.
Speaker 2: That's gonna upset the Florida.
Speaker 1: Gators fans even more, who already complained that they did
Speaker 1: not use him enough when he was there. But I
Speaker 1: love seeing him today. Let's get to CJ quickly because
Speaker 1: we have some interviews to get to. But what do
Speaker 1: you say think of what you saw from number seven today.
Speaker 1: I thought Mills had a nice practice as well. For
Speaker 1: the bulk of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Davis threw it well until he threw
Speaker 3: an interception and it was a decision he'd like to
Speaker 3: have back, and he kind of struggled little bit after
Speaker 3: the interception, but then he got it back at the end. Well,
Speaker 3: the really nice started Brevin Jordan, but CJ made a
Speaker 3: throw early in the team session. So they would go
Speaker 3: one of the quarterbacks, Mills or Stroud to start, then
Speaker 3: they would go Mills or Stroud after that. Then in
Speaker 3: case then they would circle back and go back to
Speaker 3: the same order, and so they were going back to CJ.
Speaker 3: So it was one of the last plays of the
Speaker 3: first team session. And so from my angle as I'm
Speaker 3: watching the play, I can't see CJ. He's basically getting
Speaker 3: developed by the rush in the pocket and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you just see a right arm come out
Speaker 3: and this ball just I mean you.
Speaker 2: Could hear it. It's like a you.
Speaker 3: Know when you put a ball through a pitching machine.
Speaker 3: It just rocketed out. I was like, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: where's he throwing this? And I look and there's Tank
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, run the dig rot
Speaker 3: and he hits him right between the one and the three.
Speaker 3: And that's one of those where I'm like, yo, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean on the sideline, you know me, I talked
Speaker 3: a lot of times. I talked to you all the
Speaker 3: game's going on, but on the sidelines, I'll talk to
Speaker 3: myself like, oh, that's a throw. I mean, like I
Speaker 3: get excited about it. I mean, that was he ripped it.
Speaker 3: Not perfect today, but I thought he was much better
Speaker 3: than he was on Wednesday and again one percent every day.
Speaker 3: We talked about that this morning, right, I think he
Speaker 3: did that. But man, he made a couple throws no Brown,
Speaker 3: the one at the end the throat to Dell Early,
Speaker 3: the throw to Noah Brown on the sidelines where we
Speaker 3: were standing ball. We were right in line with it,
Speaker 3: and it's in a six inch spot. It's got to
Speaker 3: be in six inches because Sting is in great coverage
Speaker 3: on Brown and it's in that six inch spot. It
Speaker 3: is the only spot where Brown could have caught it.
Speaker 3: For to catch it and get his toes in about
Speaker 3: it was incredible.
Speaker 2: My throw.
Speaker 1: My observation is it's tough get to get completions against
Speaker 1: this defense. Yes, right now, early in camp, this time
Speaker 1: of year. They've seen you for all those weeks in
Speaker 1: OTAs in mini camp. They I don't want to say
Speaker 1: they know what's coming, but they know the personnel right,
Speaker 1: so it's difficult. He ended practice with some nice throws
Speaker 1: the Wonder Brown like you mentioned a couple of others.
Speaker 1: He had a really nice look, really nice checkdown. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but he scanned the field.
Speaker 2: I saw him. Look at it.
Speaker 1: You the head's whipping around, look at different receivers, covered, covered, covered,
Speaker 1: I'll check it down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tutimation Shrek that one time. Yeah, on the far side,
Speaker 3: that was a good one.
Speaker 2: I want to go see, all right, what was there?
Speaker 2: Somebody open?
Speaker 1: But I'll take his word for it or his actions
Speaker 1: for it, and I think that's cool. He has these
Speaker 1: moments where that's not a rookie. That's not a rookie.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's rookie stuff going on behind the
Speaker 1: scenes we don't even know about, you know, who knows
Speaker 1: what the play calls are or whatever. But I think
Speaker 1: he's progressing nicely, and that's what you want to see.
Speaker 1: And I think Mills is improving as well, and Keenum
Speaker 1: when he's out there. He has some nice throws today,
Speaker 1: the crafty veteran not going away.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there's like there must be like a button
Speaker 3: on case Keenum right now, I got quarterbacks and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of kind of learning the game, do
Speaker 3: what the game plan says, and you know kind of
Speaker 3: you know, feeling yourself a little bit. And then there's
Speaker 3: this far button that says gunslinger mode. He is in
Speaker 3: gunslinger mode. He is firing, I mean, just ripping it.
Speaker 3: He threw a slammer out to Hutchinson today that was
Speaker 3: just full on. I mean, just let it fly this,
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it. He's in total gunslinger mode.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. And you never know, you never
Speaker 3: know what you might need from Keenum this year.
Speaker 2: He looks pretty good. He looks good.
Speaker 1: Absolutely also looking good out there. Nick Cassario, the general manager,
Speaker 1: we visited with him this morning, right across the table
Speaker 1: from us, is the general manager of this organization.
Speaker 2: Nick Assario.
Speaker 6: Is this gatorade sponsorship or is this want to make
Speaker 6: sure we have we're hydrated.
Speaker 1: In case you need hydration. But yesterday you were, you
Speaker 1: were walking across the field. I hate to you know,
Speaker 1: bring up these observations. You were eating something. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have a whole segment. What is Nick eating actually here
Speaker 1: with me?
Speaker 2: Oh? Really? Yes, stinger honey. Oh, it's like a healthy
Speaker 2: that's very good. That's fas what it is.
Speaker 6: It's my kind of mid morning snack to make sure
Speaker 6: I have I'm fueled for practice o'clock or something like
Speaker 6: my athletic gree Yeah, there.
Speaker 2: Mean not so much.
Speaker 3: We were talking about we were joking about this a
Speaker 3: little while ago, two years ago when when Omar came
Speaker 3: to you had said, Hey, these two jokers over there
Speaker 3: on Texans Radio wants you to come on and talk
Speaker 3: during training camp, like two years ago.
Speaker 2: What are you thinking about that?
Speaker 3: Joining us and talking about position groups and things like flashbacks.
Speaker 1: New England Tommy Brady.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I think training camp is an exciting
Speaker 6: time for everybody. So it's kind of the start officially
Speaker 6: the start of the season. So there's always intrigue, there's
Speaker 6: always interest, and there's a lot to talk about, and
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a lot of things that happened between
Speaker 6: now and kind of the end of training camp in
Speaker 6: the beginning of the season here. So but that's why
Speaker 6: we're here.
Speaker 1: Let's mention John Mechi right off the bat here because
Speaker 1: it's such a terrific story.
Speaker 2: I mean, no matter what happens.
Speaker 1: From here, but it's so great to see him running
Speaker 1: around catching passes nick after everything he's been through.
Speaker 6: Sure, really, there's always a human element to the players,
Speaker 6: and sometimes I think we kind of lose sight of that,
Speaker 6: and I think in John's case, it was certainly heightened
Speaker 6: because of everything that he had to go through on
Speaker 6: a personal level, but I would say it just speaks
Speaker 6: to who John is as a person. Our medical staff
Speaker 6: from start to finish has been great. There's been a
Speaker 6: lot of people that have been very supportive, you know,
Speaker 6: from the Technans organization, even from ownership, because I would say,
Speaker 6: what he had to go through last year, there were
Speaker 6: some things that you know, we were responsible for. But
Speaker 6: you know, our job is to serve and help the
Speaker 6: players as best we can on any level and be
Speaker 6: there for them because once we draft them, once we
Speaker 6: bring them into the building, they're part of who we
Speaker 6: are and what we're about. So you know, I think
Speaker 6: John's as excited as anybody, but I think he's probably
Speaker 6: trying to take it just one step at a time.
Speaker 6: The first step was to be out in the field
Speaker 6: there yesterday, so I mean, get a lot of days
Speaker 6: in front of us here. So now it's about stacking days.
Speaker 6: And you know, it's about football, but it's really not
Speaker 6: about football. It's really human being and their life and
Speaker 6: kind of what they had to endure and go through.
Speaker 2: Nig I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you know this, but this offseason you extended not one,
Speaker 3: not two, but three offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm breaking news to you.
Speaker 3: Of course, but the importance of extending those veterans Larry Tunsel,
Speaker 3: Shack Mason and now Titus Howard. Why was it important
Speaker 3: a to get that done now, but to actually do
Speaker 3: the extension with those three players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean number one there.
Speaker 6: We think they're good players and we think they can
Speaker 6: help our football team. So the contractual element, let's say,
Speaker 6: is always kind of a little bit of a separate
Speaker 6: endeavor and you have to go through that. But you know,
Speaker 6: we were very it's diligent and conscious about making a commitment.
Speaker 6: We've talked from the beginning, your football team is built
Speaker 6: in the inside out. I mean we believe that, and
Speaker 6: that's how we're building their team. So I'd say those
Speaker 6: actions certainly reinforce that idea. Those are players that have
Speaker 6: even though they're younger players, they have a certain level
Speaker 6: of experience. You know, we had a background with Shack
Speaker 6: from our time in New England. Shack's been a good player,
Speaker 6: So starts the offensive line. Everything you do offensively starts
Speaker 6: with the front. So you know, we felt that was
Speaker 6: the right thing to do for our team given where
Speaker 6: we are. So now it's about performance. So you know,
Speaker 6: we can talk about contracts and everything else, but now
Speaker 6: it's about going out there and doing the work and
Speaker 6: playing at a competitive en level. But whether you're going
Speaker 6: to be effective running the ball, throwing the ball like,
Speaker 6: everything is going to start with the offensive line, So
Speaker 6: I mean that's a good place to start relative to
Speaker 6: those three players.
Speaker 1: How do you evaluate what you see out there, especially
Speaker 1: in the early going of training camp because we always
Speaker 1: talk about iron sharpening iron, but it just seems so
Speaker 1: difficult to get things done buying large, especially on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Is it true that the defense,
Speaker 1: since they're destroying something rather than creating something, they might
Speaker 1: be a little ahead.
Speaker 2: How do you see all that? Nick?
Speaker 6: The offensive football is really about timing and precision, So
Speaker 6: how do you get to that endpoint just takes a
Speaker 6: lot of work. You're working in different combinations of people.
Speaker 6: Different quarterbacks arewing with different skill players, so we're gonna
Speaker 6: work with everybody, but the timing and the accuracy and
Speaker 6: there's Look, the reality is in training camp, one day
Speaker 6: the offense is probably gonna be able to in defense.
Speaker 6: Some days the defense is going to be a little
Speaker 6: better than the offense. Are you improving, are you making
Speaker 6: progress as an overall group, are you making the corrections?
Speaker 6: Are you actually moving in the right direction? So early
Speaker 6: in the year of defense is probably going to be
Speaker 6: a little bit ahead of the offense. But as an
Speaker 6: offensive football team, you just want to try to figure
Speaker 6: out what do we do well, who are some of
Speaker 6: the things that who are some of the players that
Speaker 6: we're going to be able to utilize in different roles,
Speaker 6: and then just go out there and practicing. And offensive
Speaker 6: football is about timing, It's about execution. And Tamiko and
Speaker 6: Bobby have talked about this. Our offensive i'd say team
Speaker 6: or identity was going to be built on precision. So precision,
Speaker 6: how do you get to that point? Comes a lot
Speaker 6: of work. So hopefully we can improve each day. Football.
Speaker 6: Offensive football is throwing, catching, running, and blocking. So how
Speaker 6: do you improve those areas? You work on them? Establish
Speaker 6: your fundamentals, You put a good foundation in place, and
Speaker 6: then you have those that you can build on as
Speaker 6: you work through the course of the season.
Speaker 3: Nick, as far as the timeline for you know, it
Speaker 3: talks about install by the time you get the training camp.
Speaker 3: Do you want to have both sides of the ball
Speaker 3: have everything they're gonna do install. I know there're gonna
Speaker 3: be some game plan things that you do week to week.
Speaker 3: You're gonna do this against Baltimore and maybe this against Indianapolis,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But for the most part, do you want
Speaker 3: to get the training camp having all of that installed?
Speaker 3: Or do you use kind of the early parts of
Speaker 3: training camp when you're not in pads these first three
Speaker 3: days to install even more of the training camp?
Speaker 2: How does that kind of go for both sides of
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really, it's kind of the second opportunity to sort
Speaker 6: of reinstall I would say the foundation and the base
Speaker 6: elements of your offense, defense and special teams principle. So really,
Speaker 6: what we're doing in an expedited fashion is going back
Speaker 6: through what we did in the spring, so we had,
Speaker 6: however many OTA nine or ten, whatever it was, plus
Speaker 6: the mini camp. You go through the same thing. So
Speaker 6: yesterday we started with day one, and when you set
Speaker 6: your training camp schedule, you go through and say, okay,
Speaker 6: day one, day two. Typically after day eight, you probably
Speaker 6: have seventy five eighty percent of your core system in place.
Speaker 6: When you get to the season, you're making some tweaks
Speaker 6: and adjustments to who you're playing again, so there might
Speaker 6: be some things you look at and say, this is relevant,
Speaker 6: We're gonna or this is not, we're gonna throw this out,
Speaker 6: and you're just kind of building on what you've put
Speaker 6: in place from the beginning. So after about a week
Speaker 6: eight to ten days, you probably have your system in place.
Speaker 6: Then you go out there and practice it, and then
Speaker 6: after that what you're gonna focus on are the situational elements.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's more of a rhetitary emphasis or two minute
Speaker 6: or short yardage or four minute or end of game.
Speaker 6: Those are some things that are very specific to the
Speaker 6: actual situation that's gonna take place in the game. So
Speaker 6: you typically have kind of an early down. Here are
Speaker 6: the calls on early downs here's our third down calls.
Speaker 6: Here are red zone calls. Kind of the basic core
Speaker 6: elements in those areas, and then continually rep them and
Speaker 6: practice them and you might find, you know what I
Speaker 6: mean a little bit more work of this during practice.
Speaker 6: So that's the focus that day, and then once you
Speaker 6: start playing games in the preseason, you're probably just gonna
Speaker 6: run the things that you've installed. That's seventy five eighty percent.
Speaker 6: When you get to the regular season, you're building your
Speaker 6: game plan specific to your opponents. So maybe there's a
Speaker 6: call or two that we're going to use against Baltimore
Speaker 6: that we wouldn't use against somebody else. But I would
Speaker 6: say just when you look at the league and you
Speaker 6: look at our schedule, even early on in a season,
Speaker 6: there's probably going to be some elements relative to playing
Speaker 6: Baltimore in Indianapolis, assuming ar is going to play to
Speaker 6: some degree that we're going to have to be prepared for.
Speaker 6: So maybe you have a practice where you service the
Speaker 6: other team that you cart it up and say, okay,
Speaker 6: we're going to go through these looks so you can
Speaker 6: at least get it on film, you can coach off
Speaker 6: of it, and you go back and make adjustments, make
Speaker 6: a tweak change, an alignment, change, a call. I think
Speaker 6: those are some of the things as you get further
Speaker 6: in a training camp that you're going to look to do.
Speaker 2: You've seen a lot of rookies come into this league.
Speaker 1: They all develop at different speeds, right, So how difficult
Speaker 1: is it to keep that in mind as you're trying
Speaker 1: to measure their progress as they.
Speaker 6: Hit the ground running here, No, Mark's a great point.
Speaker 6: Just try to maintain some perspective. What are they being
Speaker 6: asked to do. What's the assignment on the player, the
Speaker 6: executing assignment. If there's an area that they're struggling with,
Speaker 6: what can we do to help them? Is there a
Speaker 6: drill or something that we can cover to kind of
Speaker 6: help their overall development. But the rookie season, there's an art,
Speaker 6: there's an ebb and flow, there's an arc, there's an
Speaker 6: up and down, and.
Speaker 2: Some progress quicker than others. You can't put a timeline.
Speaker 6: You can't just lump them all together and say, Okay,
Speaker 6: by this date, by this time, they have to be
Speaker 6: ready to do this.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's early on.
Speaker 6: We're going to give them forty to fifty percent of
Speaker 6: it and make sure they can handle that and that
Speaker 6: maybe it's focused on early downs, don't worry about third
Speaker 6: down sub packages. At some point maybe they'll handle that.
Speaker 6: But you kind of look at the player, where are
Speaker 6: they in their arc of development? What do we need
Speaker 6: to do to help them improve? And to your point,
Speaker 6: some get to that point a little bit quicker than others.
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that they can't get there. It just
Speaker 6: means it's typically, you know, gonna take a little bit
Speaker 6: longer for some players. There's no particular rhyme or reason,
Speaker 6: but the NFL is hard and the margins are very small.
Speaker 6: So whatever we can do to help the player be
Speaker 6: most prepared, that's our job as a staff to try
Speaker 6: to put the play you're in the best position to succeed.
Speaker 3: Nick, the joint practice is for opportunities to Miami two
Speaker 3: against New Orleans. How did those from your perspective become
Speaker 3: important for the squad? Because you not only look at us,
Speaker 3: but you get a chance to look at the other side.
Speaker 2: So how are they important? I mean, we talked about
Speaker 2: this a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, players get a lot of reps and all that,
Speaker 3: But from your perspective, why are they important not only
Speaker 3: for the team but also for.
Speaker 6: What you guys and the coaching staff look at. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean everything that we do is important. So it's
Speaker 6: an opportunity to work against a different group of players,
Speaker 6: a different technique, a different type of player. You know,
Speaker 6: maybe it's Okay Chubb and Jalen Phillips. Yeah, maybe they're
Speaker 6: a little bit different than our defensive as. It doesn't
Speaker 6: mean that, you know, theirs are better than ours. It
Speaker 6: just means they have certain things that and you might
Speaker 6: see that type of player during the course of the year.
Speaker 6: So if I'm a player and if I'm studying who
Speaker 6: I'm going against on a weekly week basis, which is
Speaker 6: that's your job, it's your responsibility, Well, here's an opportunity
Speaker 6: to do it kind of in real time that you
Speaker 6: normally wouldn't get. So it's good for everybody. I think
Speaker 6: it's all about just maximize the opportunities. We'll get as
Speaker 6: much out of it as we put into it. And
Speaker 6: from an evaluation standpoint, you have a chance to look
Speaker 6: at some of the players on some other rosters that
Speaker 6: might help you in your team building process, whether it's
Speaker 6: now or at a later point in time.
Speaker 1: Johnny and I talk about the weather here, like we're
Speaker 1: junior varsity meteorologists, right, but it is a factor. How
Speaker 1: has the technology that you use medically and just being
Speaker 1: able to monitor these guys, how has that evolved over
Speaker 1: the last few years, Nick, as you try to keep
Speaker 1: them as fresh as possible significantly?
Speaker 6: I'd say data and technology is a big part of sport.
Speaker 6: It's probably become a bigger part of our sport here
Speaker 6: over the last probably three to four years, even more
Speaker 6: sort of in vogue. I think each team probably has
Speaker 6: an area and resources that they allocate to that. But
Speaker 6: what we're trying to do is data is data, But
Speaker 6: how do you use that data? How do you apply
Speaker 6: the data? And what can you provide the players that
Speaker 6: can actually help them and educate them? So how much
Speaker 6: just something as simple as you weigh in each each
Speaker 6: morning before practice, and it's not you're trying to be
Speaker 6: difficult to see if a guy's overweight or underweight. It's
Speaker 6: here's where he was to start at practice. At the
Speaker 6: end of practice, he lost six pounds, So what does
Speaker 6: that tell us? Okay, he loses a lot of fluids.
Speaker 6: So you have to be able to do things preventatively.
Speaker 6: So if you have the data in front of you. You
Speaker 6: can show the player and say here's why we're doing this,
Speaker 6: and the players just want to know why. And if
Speaker 6: they understand that you're helping them and they're overall physical
Speaker 6: and mental well being and conditioning, then they're certainly going
Speaker 6: to buy in. And I think you know, there's been
Speaker 6: some positive commentary I think in the off season relative
Speaker 6: to some of the things that we've been able to
Speaker 6: provide our players, But that's our job. Our job is
Speaker 6: to do everything we can to help the players to
Speaker 6: put them in the best position to optimize their performance
Speaker 6: when they're on the field.
Speaker 3: On Sundays, I really want to ask you about going
Speaker 3: to New England for the first time as a Texan,
Speaker 3: but I'll save that.
Speaker 2: I'll save that for a later day visit.
Speaker 3: Well, what happens sooner will be Sunday, kind of continuing
Speaker 3: in a conversation a little bit, Nikko, what you're just
Speaker 3: talking about. You put the pads on on Sunday and
Speaker 3: out here there's so much that you want to seeing
Speaker 3: pat I mean, obviously, alignment's the first time you're seeing
Speaker 3: them in the pad since January. But then you balance
Speaker 3: that out with you know, we're doing this in ninety
Speaker 3: degree heat. So there's so much that goes with putting
Speaker 3: pads on. So that period of time I would imagine
Speaker 3: is that much more important for a lot different reasons.
Speaker 3: But when they put the pads on, what are kind
Speaker 3: of the first few things that you want to see
Speaker 3: once they do on Sunday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you put the pads on, there's a mental
Speaker 6: and physical component that the player is going to go through.
Speaker 6: You're carrying a little bit extra weight, that's the reality
Speaker 6: of it. So you have to get you know, yourself
Speaker 6: and your body reacclimate whatever the term is, acclimization period whatever,
Speaker 6: but get yourself kind of a feel of that again,
Speaker 6: and then the timing and then really where it's going
Speaker 6: to be beneficials in a running game. So you can
Speaker 6: work on the timing and the excution in a running game.
Speaker 6: A single blocks, a double team blocks, playing off of blocks, defensively,
Speaker 6: dealing with contact, catching the ball at contact, catching the
Speaker 6: ball with your pads on and your helmets, so you're
Speaker 6: just adjusting your body a little bit to your surroundings.
Speaker 6: So then it becomes a little bit of a normalization process.
Speaker 6: Then you can focus on your actual individual assignment and
Speaker 6: your technique, So it's tough. I mean, we live in
Speaker 6: a warm climate. It's the reality of it, so you
Speaker 6: know we're going to play in warm conditions. But in
Speaker 6: the end, you're playing football. You're not playing the heat,
Speaker 6: you're not playing the conditions. So once you kind of
Speaker 6: get through that initial mental block, then you can focus
Speaker 6: on football and just improving as a player.
Speaker 1: When you played quarterback in college, did you have those
Speaker 1: big shoulder pads like little coffee tables on your shoulders?
Speaker 2: I mean, how big were bigger than now?
Speaker 6: I didn't cut the I didn't Michael Bennett where I
Speaker 6: cut the pads off and then the flap's going.
Speaker 2: But my pads were probably average size.
Speaker 6: So as long as I could move a little bit
Speaker 6: and turn, and you know we wouldn't, we didn't.
Speaker 2: Have an issue. What was camp like?
Speaker 6: I don't want to say this because everybody will get
Speaker 6: mad at me, but it's probably harder than some of
Speaker 6: the things that when we're doing in the league relative
Speaker 6: to contact, timing, how much you can practice and all that.
Speaker 6: I love training camp, so I know people thought it
Speaker 6: was psychotic. So you know, in the summer and work
Speaker 6: in the summer, then we go train for two and
Speaker 6: a half three hours, we'd throw, we'd lift.
Speaker 3: And probably training can there was probably a break for
Speaker 3: you doing all that construction work.
Speaker 2: You got the football.
Speaker 3: You're like, I believe it all that exactly, But it
Speaker 3: was true two days back then, right, Yeah, No.
Speaker 6: We would practice and then we would go in, we
Speaker 6: would need we would lift, then we'd go back out
Speaker 6: and need hather of another practice or we'd have a
Speaker 6: walk through or you're doing something you really and there was
Speaker 6: no really time constraints, Like nobody was worried about that.
Speaker 6: So you know, we're adjusting and adapting like everybody else.
Speaker 6: So whatever the rules are, we'll make sure we're in compliance.
Speaker 6: So I think you get twelve hours a day. So
Speaker 6: now you just try to maximize those twelve hours and
Speaker 6: try to be as productive with those as you can.
Speaker 3: Man, I worked on a pipeline here in Houston, and
Speaker 3: I still didn't like two days.
Speaker 2: Just you know, it's starred man hard.
Speaker 3: Two days back in the day before you started classes
Speaker 3: hard because coaches are.
Speaker 2: Like, man, bleep this, you're with us all day.
Speaker 3: Pal practice starts at eight you got a meeting at
Speaker 3: you got a meeting at seven am, you got practice
Speaker 3: at eight, You then have.
Speaker 2: A meeting at noon, then.
Speaker 3: You have practice at two, and then you got a
Speaker 3: meeting at five, and then you got another meeting at eight.
Speaker 2: It was like that for two straight weeks.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'll make you think a lot
Speaker 3: about whether you love football or not you go through
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: But I did, and Nick did, and we're all doing it.
Speaker 3: It's a little different now, but you get the point.
Speaker 3: All right, we get back. We're gonn talking to Alex
Speaker 3: Bachman and m J.
Speaker 2: Stewart.
Speaker 3: Well, I did, and you want to hear that next
Speaker 3: right here in Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: What's happening, everybody.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to a Thursday atation of Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: John Harris, your host.
Speaker 3: Glad to be with you and hopefully you'll join Mark
Speaker 3: and I tomorrow eight to ten on Friday.
Speaker 2: Fans will be in the stands. It's gonna be electric.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so cool for this these fans to
Speaker 3: see this team, and I just I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you guys to take a look.
Speaker 3: Go man, Yeah, I like what's going on because it's
Speaker 3: great to hear about it and great to come out
Speaker 3: in theory and all that.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But when you see it live, you're like, yo, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, I see what's going on, and you feel
Speaker 3: good about that. So we've got that to look forward
Speaker 3: to eight to ten tomorrow, but we got the show
Speaker 3: to take care of tonight.
Speaker 2: We've heard from Nick Casseerra. That was fun stuff with Nick.
Speaker 3: Now, two players that Nick has brought on I had
Speaker 3: a chance to talk to over the last.
Speaker 2: Couple of days.
Speaker 3: The first one wide receiver Alex Bachman, one of the
Speaker 3: more fun guys to talk to you on his team.
Speaker 3: You haven't if you haven't really caught up on wake Forest.
Speaker 3: Did a great job of wake Forest in his career
Speaker 3: really run. It's from North Carolina. Then he's bound around
Speaker 3: the league little but he's in his fifth year in
Speaker 3: the NFL and he's really fun to talk to. And
Speaker 3: I started every interview off, how's the heat. How's it
Speaker 3: hanging with the heat? Oh boy, it's been tough. Here's
Speaker 3: Alex Bachman, receiver for your Houston Texans.
Speaker 4: I got superstar Alex Bachman with me.
Speaker 3: Alex, First of all, we do this every single day,
Speaker 3: one to ten.
Speaker 4: Give me your level of the heat in day one.
Speaker 2: Man, it's the hottest.
Speaker 7: I've felt it hit me in the mouth probably first
Speaker 7: seven on seven periods. So, I mean, I went to
Speaker 7: school in North Carolina, but there's no type of humidity
Speaker 7: quite like this. But hey, you know, good start, come
Speaker 7: back tomorrow and get better. You learn to get used
Speaker 7: to the humidity, and you know, no excuses. So everybody
Speaker 7: has to deal with it.
Speaker 2: You're right about that.
Speaker 4: Everybody just have to deal with I'm gonna go to
Speaker 4: your off season.
Speaker 2: He's drop season, like I thought.
Speaker 3: I saw some videos out there, guys throwing the ball around.
Speaker 3: Who's drop season? Like, getting everybody together throwing a ball
Speaker 3: around the guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: CJ called us up to go out to LA for
Speaker 7: good four days opportunity to just get to know your
Speaker 7: teammates better, get to know how each of us tick.
Speaker 7: I spend some time together, throw the ball around at
Speaker 7: UCLA and just get mentally prepared to come in and
Speaker 7: go to work this full camp.
Speaker 3: So you come in day one not in pads yet
Speaker 3: for a receiver, I always asked hers Sol. Obviously a
Speaker 3: lineman could feel it, but when you put the pads on,
Speaker 3: what's the biggest what's the.
Speaker 2: Biggest change for you?
Speaker 3: As pretending rot running catching the football is now you
Speaker 3: got pads, so you're more kind of hindered with.
Speaker 8: That when you put the pads on. As a receiver,
Speaker 8: what does that kind of change for you? I don't
Speaker 8: think about how it hinders me at all. Always think
Speaker 8: about how I can use it to my advantage. Come off,
Speaker 8: be a fisical receiver. Set the tone. We got pads onto.
Speaker 7: Everybody talks about, you know, how the defender is the
Speaker 7: one who is probably gonna begin or start collisions. But
Speaker 7: I've always felt being a fitsical receiver, I can be
Speaker 7: the same.
Speaker 3: So, Alex, we were talking this morning on radio about
Speaker 3: the receivers, the receiver group as a whole.
Speaker 2: And I know you guys might.
Speaker 3: Listen to may not you know what things are said
Speaker 3: around oh either the thirty second group in the league,
Speaker 3: all that kind of nonsense. I look at this group
Speaker 3: and I think there's a lot of potential there. What
Speaker 3: do you think about the receiver group that you have
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're actually got a lot of death.
Speaker 7: We've got a lot of guys willing to come in learn.
Speaker 7: You know, we got to two solid draft picks this year.
Speaker 4: Come in.
Speaker 7: They're you know, they're eager to learn, and you know
Speaker 7: they're improving each and every day. We got some Vets,
Speaker 7: Rob Woods, No Brown, just a good group of guys
Speaker 7: to come and work with. It's been a privilege and
Speaker 7: I'm just really excited. I think we're gonna surprise a
Speaker 7: lot of people.
Speaker 2: This fifth training camp for you in the NFL. Fifth yeah, fifth, fifth,
Speaker 2: one yeah.
Speaker 5: Half a decade.
Speaker 2: What's the key to making it through? Training?
Speaker 7: Day by day? Attack each day twenty four hours. I
Speaker 7: don't think about, you know, tomorrow. I don't think about
Speaker 7: a week from now, three weeks from now. I just
Speaker 7: come in each day and remember, you know, there's a line,
Speaker 7: you know, miles long that would love to be in
Speaker 7: my position. To take advantage of each day and find
Speaker 7: that that joy that I had when I was eight
Speaker 7: years old, you know, my first ever football game, that excitement,
Speaker 7: come out and just have a ball. I worked with
Speaker 7: my tirelet to get to this position, so I'm gonna
Speaker 7: have fun with it.
Speaker 2: Alex, I appreciate it. Think about that.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Yeah, you can ball. It's just gonna
Speaker 2: be tough with wide receiver. Man.
Speaker 3: But if there's anybody stepping into that competition ready to rock.
Speaker 3: Does every position, knows every route from every spot on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 2: He could line up.
Speaker 3: Alex Bachman can run, really run, and I think that
Speaker 3: needs to be reiterated. And when you see him you'll know.
Speaker 3: But he has got a shot and he catches everything
Speaker 3: his way. So Alex Bakman, that's funny interview. I love
Speaker 3: getting a chance to talk with Alex. Now another guy.
Speaker 3: I love talking to you because I got mad respon
Speaker 3: this guy. In matter of respect for all these guys,
Speaker 3: but even more so for m J Stewart. You'll here
Speaker 3: I asked this first question of MJ because he was
Speaker 3: the guy that signed a couple.
Speaker 2: Of years ago and or last year.
Speaker 3: I mean, and when you sign, you think, okay, man,
Speaker 3: i'ma I'm gonna start this position, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that. MJ didn't start, So he jumped
Speaker 3: over to special teams and just said, man, I'm gonna dominate.
Speaker 3: And he had that big forced fumble against the Chargers
Speaker 3: with a huge hit that forced to fumble that sent
Speaker 3: energy in apoplectic.
Speaker 2: It was incredible.
Speaker 3: But he was like that all year long on special
Speaker 3: teams and that really earned him time on the field
Speaker 3: at safety, and then you really started playing better at safety.
Speaker 2: So here's m J.
Speaker 3: Stewart not talking about that and then some after practice today.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, day number two along time my man, MJ Stewart.
Speaker 9: MJ.
Speaker 2: First question I've asked everybody. It's come off the field,
Speaker 2: the heat. How you doing with it?
Speaker 10: I'm doing pretty good, I know I got Last year
Speaker 10: is a touch transition for me coming from Cleveland, but
Speaker 10: this year I'm getting a little more used to it.
Speaker 10: We're in the long sleeve keep keep my body cool
Speaker 10: a little bit, so it is tough.
Speaker 4: I got the long sleeves mind, so I don't get
Speaker 4: to some burnos.
Speaker 2: I don't like where it's some state. I want to
Speaker 2: ask you.
Speaker 3: Something about and you know a lot of people do
Speaker 3: an interview that you know, talk about what you do
Speaker 3: on defense.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that.
Speaker 3: But you've been so impressive to me because you take
Speaker 3: such pride in special teams and being part of that unit,
Speaker 3: and last year was number one in the league. You're
Speaker 3: part of all four you know, core fourth special team
Speaker 3: or where does that come from? That you take that
Speaker 3: much pride because even a lot of guys get the
Speaker 3: spect teams that are like, man, whatever, but you take
Speaker 3: such pride in it and being a leader on that group.
Speaker 2: Where does that? Where's that come from?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 10: Just the love of the game. Man. Uh, it's a
Speaker 10: blessing to you know. Sometimes people forget that. It's a
Speaker 10: blessing to be an NFL. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 10: of people who don't make it. So you know, anytime
Speaker 10: I get to Gill in this field in front of
Speaker 10: the fans, man, I just take it, take it to
Speaker 10: give them my all because it's like I said, it's
Speaker 10: the love.
Speaker 2: Of the game.
Speaker 4: Friday, the fans do come out here. How much of
Speaker 4: a charge that give you?
Speaker 2: Guys? You got an off day on Saturday. It's not
Speaker 2: really off day in training camp.
Speaker 3: Anothers really all true off day, but you are not
Speaker 3: practicing on Saturday.
Speaker 4: So what's it gonna be like to have the fans
Speaker 4: here on Friday?
Speaker 2: To see them again?
Speaker 10: Man, just brings a lot of excitement. You know, hopefully
Speaker 10: we can uh you know on offense, defense and especially
Speaker 10: is getting something you know to look forward to during
Speaker 10: the season. But yeah, it just brings a lot of excitement.
Speaker 10: You know, you had the fans chair, you know, gets
Speaker 10: everybody hype.
Speaker 2: All right, well it gets people hype. Defense turning around?
Speaker 2: How different is.
Speaker 4: The scheme this year versus last year? Is it totally different?
Speaker 3: Or there's some things you can take forward, There's some
Speaker 3: things you can take from previous iterations where you've been in.
Speaker 2: Cleveland, or there's some things you take forward. Here, tell
Speaker 2: me about what this defense is all about.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's different. It's definitely different than last year.
Speaker 10: But I like, I like de Miko. I believe in
Speaker 10: this scheme a lot. You know, it's a great scheme,
Speaker 10: So just looking forward to show it off in the season.
Speaker 2: You got a couple of rookies, you got a couple
Speaker 2: of new guys in the room. What's that dB room like?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 10: Hey man, it's it's actually a pretty old group, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 10: We got a couple of rookies, a couple of young guys,
Speaker 10: but we got a lot of veteran guys, so we're
Speaker 10: able to like feed off each other and feed off
Speaker 10: each other's like knowledge of the game.
Speaker 4: What's the one thing you make the rookies do for
Speaker 4: the vets?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Donuts?
Speaker 9: Food, dude, Yeah, just snacks for the room. The snacks,
Speaker 9: you know, Uh, you know, we in meetings a lot
Speaker 9: during training camp, so you know, just having some snacks
Speaker 9: in there so you can, you know, stay up, stay
Speaker 9: away the attendive.
Speaker 2: What's the favorite snack that you've got to have in
Speaker 2: that room? Sounth flower seeds.
Speaker 10: Oh, gotta have a south Flower seas ranch particularly, but
Speaker 10: I gotta have a south Flower seas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so not regular ranch.
Speaker 3: See that's a new one because you know, if you're
Speaker 3: old like me, it's just regular seeds.
Speaker 2: But rance has been a thing the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: That's the way to the ranch. I like to rams. Okay,
Speaker 2: Ran sund Flower seas J.
Speaker 4: I appreciate your time, man, Thank you man, always, thank
Speaker 4: you spec Man.
Speaker 3: Absolutely love what that guy brings to this team, whether
Speaker 3: he's getting reps at safety, whether it's all four special teams.
Speaker 3: That guy's the kind of guy you gotta have around
Speaker 3: on a really good football team, championship football teams.
Speaker 2: M J.
Speaker 3: Stewart has been a lot to this organization last year,
Speaker 3: and he's going to mean a lot to the organization
Speaker 3: this year as well.
Speaker 2: All right, we get back. What's you're from? The general
Speaker 2: he stopped by.
Speaker 3: We chatted about a number of things, including that team
Speaker 3: up north wearing the Columbia blue. Yeah, we'll tell you
Speaker 3: about that. And that's something right here on Texans All Access.
Speaker 3: We got one final segment this Thursday edition of Texans
Speaker 3: All Access. What would a Thursday edition be without, well
Speaker 3: me John Harris football and a sideline reporting, your host
Speaker 3: Mark Vandermirin and the voice of the Texans and the
Speaker 3: General John McClain. We had to get his initial thoughts,
Speaker 3: his general reaction to day one at training camp.
Speaker 11: Well, there's nothing bad that comes from the first training
Speaker 11: camp practice as long as nobody gets hurt. You know,
Speaker 11: somebody gets hurt, and you see it happening all over
Speaker 11: the league. Guys go down and yesterday, as far as
Speaker 11: I know, everybody was healthy. They're going to great pains
Speaker 11: not to show us who they're leaning toward as a
Speaker 11: starting quarterback, although we know who it is. And yeah,
Speaker 11: you can't really tell.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 11: They were running around there playing pattycake football with no
Speaker 11: pads on and I and I would tell all the
Speaker 11: listeners to read John Harris as it used to be
Speaker 11: your observations.
Speaker 2: What is it called now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Harris hits Yeah, we disguised it and O'Brien here.
Speaker 1: The previous coaching staff was not never mind.
Speaker 11: Yeah, because John will tell you just about everything he
Speaker 11: saw yesterday and thank you Josh.
Speaker 5: So it was everybody's everybody's fired up. Fans will be
Speaker 5: out here.
Speaker 11: Was tomorrow's Saturday, No Tomorrow, Sunday, Tomorrow and Sunday Saturday
Speaker 11: is an off day anytime the fans are out here,
Speaker 11: and they have a great setup for the fans. I think, uh,
Speaker 11: I may go one of these VIP sections and sit
Speaker 11: there on the fifteenth.
Speaker 2: You can watch practice here with me.
Speaker 1: We won't be on the air Sunday morning, but I'll
Speaker 1: be doing different stuff and we've got a nice area
Speaker 1: here for you.
Speaker 2: So you're welcome. Well.
Speaker 11: I appreciate that. And so when the fans come, it
Speaker 11: takes it up to another level, of course, and I
Speaker 11: think they're going to get about four thousand out here.
Speaker 11: Fans are fired up. You see players may can leaping
Speaker 11: a little higher, hanging on the balls a little more.
Speaker 11: I think you'll see Stroud and Nico Collins connecting like
Speaker 11: they did yesterday. So the fans when they come out here,
Speaker 11: it's electric, it's energized, and I think that's great for practice.
Speaker 11: Everybody talks about when they put on the pads. Coaches
Speaker 11: always say, when we put on the pads, you know,
Speaker 11: they still don't go off full contact. Guys go down
Speaker 11: when they slip or fall. That's why I can't wait
Speaker 11: for the joint practices because other than the quarterbacks, that
Speaker 11: is the real deal, and that's where you that's where
Speaker 11: we can really gauge people. But I as long as
Speaker 11: Nico Collins stays healthy and Robert Woods plays the way
Speaker 11: he expected, they'll be the starting receivers. The key is
Speaker 11: will John Matchee, Tank Dell. I can't wait to watch
Speaker 11: Tank when he's playing, for sure, because he's like a gnat,
Speaker 11: you know it. It's hard to catch a gnat, and
Speaker 11: love can't wait to see people try to tackle him.
Speaker 11: And of course John you mentioned yesterday about the linebackers Tortoa,
Speaker 11: I think it's only a matter of time before we
Speaker 11: see him get a lot more playing time. Denzel Perryman
Speaker 11: is a starter, you know, one of the things I'm interested.
Speaker 11: And they're gonna be playing two linebackers most of the time.
Speaker 11: That'd be at least at the start. Perryman and Christian
Speaker 11: Harris and Christian Kirksey is still here, Will Christian still
Speaker 11: be on the team when they cut back to fifty
Speaker 11: three because you can't really you don't really need three
Speaker 11: linebackers for about thirty percent of the time. And to Atoa,
Speaker 11: at some point he's going to be starting because that
Speaker 11: kid is good, he's smart, he can drop, he can run.
Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to seeing him.
Speaker 3: Dan Well coached Ky from Dalla salle on Cocker, California.
Speaker 3: Then he played for Jeremy Pruett who was running Nick
Speaker 3: Saban's defense. Then he went into Nick Saban's defense, and
Speaker 3: now he's here with t Miika Ryant. So there's some
Speaker 3: some definite action there, there's no doubt. General, your your
Speaker 3: thoughts about the offense yesterday?
Speaker 1: C J.
Speaker 3: Stroud, Davis Mills, the quarterbacks, Mark and I kind of
Speaker 3: gave our thoughts left a little bit to be desired.
Speaker 1: What'd you think watching Let me piggyback on that one too, general,
Speaker 1: Why do you think they do it the way they're
Speaker 1: doing it? And splitting up the ones a little bit?
Speaker 1: They both got some time with the alternated drills. We
Speaker 1: well we interpret to be the ones. Why are they
Speaker 1: doing it that way?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 11: As opposed to the Panthers who have anointed yes, Bryce
Speaker 11: Young from the get go. They made no bones about it.
Speaker 11: I've seen situations where work both ways. I think they
Speaker 11: want Stroud to know that he's to believe he's competing,
Speaker 11: and they want to be fair to Davis Mills. Case
Speaker 11: Keenam knows his lot in life, and Case is almost
Speaker 11: here to be a coach or if somebody gets hurt
Speaker 11: and we all know that Stroud's going to win the job.
Speaker 11: I said yesterday to you guys, I think it'll be
Speaker 11: after the joint practices that maybe they say absolutely Number one,
Speaker 11: first two preseason games. I could see the first one
Speaker 11: Meal starting and the second one Stroud starting, and then
Speaker 11: the third one we're gonna know who's going to be
Speaker 11: the starter. Stroud needs a lot of playing time, yep,
Speaker 11: you know, Davis Mills. It's a new system. Anytime you
Speaker 11: put in a new system, quarterbacks need playing time too.
Speaker 11: But I think Case and he knows every system in
Speaker 11: the league, it seems like, and so he would need
Speaker 11: the least amount of playing time because he has such experience.
Speaker 11: And so, with all due respect to Davis Mills, who
Speaker 11: probably would be a better quarterback, with Bobby Slowick than
Speaker 11: he was last year with Pep Hamilton. I think anybody
Speaker 11: out here would believe that. But I and he will
Speaker 11: be better.
Speaker 5: But hey, CJ.
Speaker 11: Stroud was drafted second overall for a reason, and I
Speaker 11: hope he goes to Baltimore as the starter because he
Speaker 11: needs that experience.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see what they do in
Speaker 1: these preseason games. I can't wait to see how they
Speaker 1: divvy up the time. These joint practices are going to
Speaker 1: eat up a lot of starter reps, I would think,
Speaker 1: but you never know. Game situation is always going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit different.
Speaker 2: General. What do you make of the oiler schedule today that.
Speaker 11: Was released, Well, there's no surprises, exactly like I've been
Speaker 11: saying since March. They're gonna wear the Oilers uniforms against
Speaker 11: the Texans. I just I'm writing a column for Sports
Speaker 11: Radio six ' ten dot com later in the day.
Speaker 11: Just talk to Robert Brazil and he loved it, just
Speaker 11: like Warren Moon loves it. All those players want to
Speaker 11: see their uniforms again, and that's the only way it
Speaker 11: can be done is by them wearing it in Tennessee.
Speaker 11: And of course it's kind of ticking it to Houston
Speaker 11: to wear them here. But the players love it, and
Speaker 11: I think it's going to be great. I think it's
Speaker 11: great now. There's certain people like John Lopez who disagrees
Speaker 11: with me.
Speaker 5: He doesn't like it.
Speaker 11: But I want to see I want to see Columbia
Speaker 11: blue again. I don't care who his only other side
Speaker 11: of the field. I love those uniforms. I could take
Speaker 11: you to the Texans team shop. We could buy some
Speaker 11: h Town blue gear for you in general.
Speaker 5: But let me have.
Speaker 1: One more about that Nashville Titans fans. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of the Titans in Nashville. Am I making too big
Speaker 1: a deal out of this? Is it joyful for them
Speaker 1: to troll the people of Houston? Yes, but don't you
Speaker 1: feel like they're they're under serving their local community that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's their fan base, not here.
Speaker 5: The their The media is trying to stir it up
Speaker 5: up there.
Speaker 11: I've been watching the videos and Paul Kaharsky, who always
Speaker 11: likes to stir it, he's asking the players what they think.
Speaker 5: Players don't care. Players there don't care, thank you?
Speaker 3: And scene, Yes, the players don't care. Let's just go
Speaker 3: do it on a field. As I said earlier, just
Speaker 3: with Basston, Tennessee, and it's all good. Big thanks to
Speaker 3: the General, John McClain, Marvan Demir, of course, Alex Blackman, MJ. Stewart,
Speaker 3: Nick Casario.
Speaker 2: And all of you for listen. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow, bright and early at eight am
Speaker 3: on Sports Radio six ten. See then, everybody, and as always,
Speaker 3: go Texans,