WEBVTT - The Layzie Bone Episode 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.800 Get gett boys, it's back and reoded all in your mind. Yeah, 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.600 and now deep throating. This is for the streets, the real, 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.960 the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, the scapegoating, and they 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.400 ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they ain't quoted 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.279 because we wrote it. The North South East coat is 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.720 g b my for keeping your head bobbing. It ain't 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.040 no stopping and wants to be tricks by. And then 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.560 the system is so corrupt they throw the rock out 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.560 their heads and then blame it on us. Don't get 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.080 it twisted on code and we danceing for no buttament biscuits. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.599 It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collective 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.800 Louis are the ghetto boys, reloaded with another episode of 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.960 information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:55.000 beautiful world in the studio. Bone bone, bone, bone bone, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.360 lazy bone is in the building. Fast, yes, yes, hey, King, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.560 let's go on to see you. Man. It's always good 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.800 to see. It's always an honor to being your presence man, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.679 you know, double o G Yeah, I appreciate you. Right now. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.400 You're out on the road with your group and TLC 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.880 y'all doing days? How many dates have y'all done so far? 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.240 We've been rapped about twelve twelve days so far, about 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.959 seven mot ago, right, yeah, and then what and then 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.000 it's uh, I'm doing solo dates. So I got solo 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.160 dates coming up. We also got a gang of bone 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.360 dates not at the world opened up. We we're ready 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.200 for Okay, all right, that sounds good man. You know, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.560 Boom concert is always exciting because you know, you got 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.560 all you guys on the stage and everybody's doing their 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.800 own thing. It's always a lot. It's like a bunch 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.520 of moving pieces, so to speak. So everybody it's like 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.880 you're looking over here. You know, you're doing your thing 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.680 over here, flishes over here doing this thing, busy over 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.560 doing this, that wish overre doing this thing. You got 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.280 crazy over here doing this thing. Yeah, it's gumbo, man, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.400 it's earned it up in the pot. Look, man, I 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:08.760 want you to like explain like your relationship with each 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.920 member of the group, starting with your brother flesh, right, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:16.079 what's that relationship like? Well, you know my big brother man, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.480 you know we uh we tied it in we tightest 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.200 net booty and you can't you can't you can't separate 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.680 the house boys. You know what I'm saying that Booty, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:32.120 you know, it's just separable. Yeah. But you know my 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.720 big brother man, you know he uh, he really responsible 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.240 for teaching me my responsibilities in life. Taught me how 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.200 to count money, you know what I mean, taught me 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.440 how not to throw it away. You know. So my 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:49.760 brother is just like we've been inseparable since first grade. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.160 We went to first grade together and you know, everything 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.520 we did, my mom saying if you go outside, he 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.239 go outside. So one of those relationships the first grade 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:06.280 together because you yeah, you have the same same mother, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:11.200 mother and father. Yes, and y'all the same grade together. Yeah. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:16.840 So no, that flesh flesh Bone got held back in 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.120 the first grade. Now that was because we was moving. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.480 We had my mother went to Colorado or something like 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.519 that and came back to Cleveland and they held him 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.280 back and I was starting school. Yes, I have to 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.880 ask that very I know they're not twins, yes not. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.400 We only were only a year apart though, you know 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.800 what I'm saying, So, you know, closest brothers could possibly be. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.840 You know, Busy Bone the baby of the group. He 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.760 was the last one to come along. You know what 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.760 I'm saying. And uh, I met him through my mother 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.720 as well, because my mother had a friendship with his dad, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.000 you know what I'm saying, And we uh end up 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.920 taking him in and that's my little brother, you know 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.520 what I'm saying. So ever since I was sixteen when 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.920 he entered into my life, I think he was fourteen, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.360 and he's been baby bro every since. You know what 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.200 I'm saying. Crazy Bone was my is my best friend, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.600 my my road dog, you know what I mean. The 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.840 reason why I took rap serious in the first place, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.080 and um met him in the seventh grade. We had 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.320 a group called band Aid boys, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.160 in uh talent shows and gone shows and we was 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.920 in the choir together and all that type of stuff. Yeah, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.919 we had the band aids man. We was, Yeah, we 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.000 had them up under our eyes. I think we thought 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:44.160 that made us tough back in eighties five something like that, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.279 you know what I mean. And Wish Bones is my 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.080 blood cousin too, so it's it's really a family thing. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.680 So what is bone? I know, bone is the acronym 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.640 for what brothers on normally elimination in butt it out 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.840 niggas every Day brewed out Niggas ay Day and that's it. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.159 Just boned Bone is the the last name, you know 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.279 what I mean? That's we was born Enterprise before we 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.560 was born Thugs and Harmon. What was that dude that 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.160 y'all was working with, Kermit or something like that, Kerman Henderson. Yeah, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:28.039 slow Foot Mother is still around. Um, yeah, he's still out, 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.560 He's still he's still alive, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.720 We put out an album called Faces of Death for 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.720 him back in like one. Yeah, and how did y'all 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.920 transition to getting over the easy? Because I'm sure he 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.880 didn't just have y'all for one album? Did he? Just? No? Well, actually, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.560 I mean that was a whole Jankee situation. We've been 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.720 through what you know what I'm saying. Like, actually, we 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.120 were signed to a management contract and he put the 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.599 record out. We recorded a record mand we was getting 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.960 like fifty dollars a week, splitting uh to dollars a piece, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.400 you know, yeah, ten dollars a piece of fifty dollars 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:09.520 a week, and um, but I was fifteen fifteen, about 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.800 to be sixteen, and we was just excited to be 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.040 recording back then to hear ourselves on tape. You know 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.680 what I mean. We was emulating, y'all. We was emulating 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.880 uh n w a, you know what I mean. We 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:27.040 was out there on the block doing that. Do you 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:36.000 remember that concert that you guys open up for Ghetto Boys? Yeah? Man, 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.320 you know, like when I first heard y'all, like, I 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:43.599 was backstage. Actually I was in the dressing room. And 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.160 so this is before y'all came out, you know, before 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.159 y'all the world knew you guys. As the Bone does 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.120 in harmony, right, y'all probably was okay, So at that point, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:07:00.400 y'all were still boned enterprise. So I'm in the dressing 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:05.160 room and I just hear this rumbling crowd, noises, people 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.600 just going crazy, and like, what the hell is that? 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.880 What's going on? So Chief, I wrote, Manager was like, yeah, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.040 Chiefs like, man, that's the niggas up, man, that's the 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.000 niggas out here. Man, uh man Bone Bone something man, Man, Man, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.360 they're going they love that ship man. What the fund 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.120 is they're saying? And he said, man, I don't know, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.200 but they love that ship man. They love that ship man. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.480 I was like, so I'm listening and I was impressed, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.920 but I was not business savvy enough to say, hey, man, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.400 come on, man, come go. You know, let's do this. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.240 You know, like I didn't get it, like easy got it. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:47.280 Easy heard that and it was so so different, you know, 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:57.560 that whole, that whole uh soliloquy, rapid style, the cattle float. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:02.920 You know. Yeah, it's like, what did y'all learn that? Well? 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.640 I mean it was, It wasn't really learned. It was 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.400 developed over a period of time, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:14.440 Like because first well, our first thing was who could 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.280 put the most words in the rap in the bar? 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.040 Whoever can put the most words in the bar was 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.400 the dopest that day, you know what I'm saying. And 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.200 Crazy Ball took it and mastered it and really liked 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.280 he put the fire on it. We had a song 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.560 called flow Motion, and that's when we knew that's what 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:41.319 we're gonna do. We're gonna out wrap everybody by put 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.040 more words in the wrap. And then the singing came along, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.680 because you know, growing up to our parents music Marvin Gay, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.040 Smokey Robinson or no Stevie Wonder, all that that everything 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.439 we heard in the house trying to be new. Addition 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.360 as kids and and all that so the singing came 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.800 along by us doing our ad libs and you know, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.880 by us having an alternating switch. We have paused and 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.880 then go pause, go. So that's how we knew how 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.640 to go fast, speed up, go fast, speed up. So 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.600 it was like over a course of years, because from 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:23.240 like eighty four to ninety two, we was like you 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.160 could say we was an artist development. We was trying everything. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.599 We tried. We was y'all, we was in w A, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:34.400 We was the fush Nickins. We was, um, who what's 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.439 the bum sticky bone, sticky bom bone. Uh that's effects 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.160 yeah all that. So yeah, it was like over a 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.040 ten year period when it wasn't overnight. Ten years we 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.640 was doing talent shows and trying to just be somebody 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.480 for a minute. Yea. So Twister, what was twister at 0:09:55.520 --> 0:10:00.319 this time? Before you get Twister? Twister came out before us. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:06.160 I really didn't know too much about Twister, But like 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.120 I mentioned, the foosh Nikins, they had a super fast flow. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:15.360 Uh poor righteous teachers had something like flipping bust of 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:22.880 rhymes variation, but it was fast. Everybody was just going 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.800 fast and was no rhythm to it. And do what 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.920 I went to do it do what that came along. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:34.320 It was after I know they was after us. We 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.320 came out ninety four, so they might have been ninety 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:43.680 six with Pop with our independent album. We met Easy 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.400 and ninety three we met Easy like we left November 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:54.400 twenty three one way bus tickets when went out. We 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.960 was like homeless for like three months out m California. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.920 Met Easy, got to open up for him. All that 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:08.760 long story short in June by jun uh Cleveland and okay, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:15.520 so so you open up for Easy in Cleveland, you wrapped, 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.439 didn't you wrapped for him backstage or something like that. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.760 Let me get you the whole timeline. So we went 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.880 November twenty third. N we left and we went to California. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.480 We was homeless. We heard he had a show in Cleveland. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.600 We got back home and he was doing That's when 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:37.240 he had real motherfucking Jeeves had just came out and 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:42.200 um no, we hadn't met him, but we talked to 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.640 him on the phone. We had wrapped to him over 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.360 the phone because the secretary we called his office every 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.320 day and we were wrapped to everybody in the office 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:55.920 and they passed the phone around. Yeah, they passed the 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.760 phone around. So we got back to Cleveland, and because 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.559 we had Faces of Death out and we had our 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.840 thing with Kurmen Henderson and he had the store dolls, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.200 we had a little connects. So once once we got 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.400 once we did that show. He didn't see our performances 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.360 that night, but that charged us up to bum rush 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.280 backstage and then we just I ran up on Yellow 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.120 Boy wrapping and he picked his head out the door, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.360 like man, y'all the niggas was on the phone wrapping. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.920 We're like, yeah, man, it's us. He liked boomed and 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.480 that was it. You know, we got back. We went 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.560 in the dressing room. It was about a thousand niggas 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.400 and they're trying to, you know, show E what they had. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.760 And actually it was being busy that got backstage and 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.040 ship we did our thing and shut off everybody in 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.439 Cleveland had that. We shut that thing down, and he 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:58.320 uh went back on tour and a few weeks later 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.959 he sent for us, and by novm and and and 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:08.240 by June we had Thuggers Ruggish Bone out June nine four, 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.640 So it was like a four month period that we 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.400 was recording with Easy and then the album came out 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:21.360 and the rest was history. How did the name lazy 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:29.000 Bone come about? Wow? Um, lazy boon? Because if Ryan 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.600 was crazy Bone, you know when I was I was 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.400 telling you, when I was out in Texas, I was 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.800 already I formulated the name Bob. I was busy boned first, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.000 So I was busy boned. And when I finally came 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.280 home back home to Cleveland, and I shared the bond 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.160 idea with Crazy Bone, and I was like, well, what 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.240 bond would you be? He like, Nigga, I'm crazy, And 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.000 by him being my best friend in the world, it 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.360 was like, well, I'm gonna be lazy then. And then 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.840 the busy Bone was just sitting there. And then my 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:11.560 mom introduced me to to Brian McCain. He was mc 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:17.280 mellow and but he was off the chain. I'm like, okay, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.400 so you busy bone and I'm basically lazy because it 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.240 rhyme was crazy. Now I don't have a lazy bone 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.760 in my body. Wow. Yeah, that is a fascinating story, man. Yeah. Man, 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.600 that's that's how I formulated the whole Formulady crazy lazy 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.840 Bone is crazy because it rhyme like that, and I 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.560 wanted to be like my friend. Well, all this time 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.680 I've been doing you damn it thirty years and I 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.760 never thought to ask you that question. Yeah, everybody be like, well, 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.040 why why they call you lazy because you're not lazy? 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.400 You all over the place. Well, there it is. I 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.400 never told it to the world before, but there it is. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.440 The you see, I tell you crazy, I tell you 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.600 we should tell you. You You heard it here first and 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:12.320 getto boys reloaded Flesh and tell you you guys put 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.160 out a song with Biggie and you put out a 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:21.680 song with Pock, one or the few acts in music 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.960 to be able to make that clean. How did that 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.120 come about? Wasn't Biggie and Pop? Wasn't that some kind 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.320 of beef at that time you did those songs? The 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.240 boys was filled. Yeah, so how did you How did 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.600 you guys facilitate making a song with Biggie and Pop? 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:48.960 And was there any friction within your camp or any 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.720 type of mistrust or whatever on either side? When he 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.320 was guys was like, Hey, I want to do a 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.320 song with you guys. Oh, by the way, we're gonna 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.160 do a song with no It was it was like 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.040 we had did the song with pop first, so pop 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.600 did We did the song with Pop and that song 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:12.880 came out and um Pop got murdered, and then we 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.840 did the song with Big and we never even heard 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.080 Biggie verse until his came out because he passed away 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:24.280 before we even got to hear his verse on the song. Yeah, 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.400 so we you know, and we was from the Midwest, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.880 so we felt like we felt like, oh like with 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.360 the south, East coast, West coast, we was we had 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.600 a piece of all that being from Cleveland, anybody from Cleveland. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.000 No that we bumped the ghetto boys from the south, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.240 you know. Of course, everybody rocked him L A L. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.800 Everybody from the East coast and n W A and 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:53.240 DJ Quick and everybody from west. So we stayed mutual 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.920 basically because the fuse that Easy he was having. He 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.920 didn't want us to have no part of that because 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.679 we was ready to ride for eat whatever however, but 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.760 he was like, no, I got something better for y'all. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.119 Y'all different, and we don't know, we we don't understand 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.480 that at the time, but that's how we was able 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.760 to facilitate that. What was it like being around Easy? 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.800 What was his energy like? Man, he was cool, he 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.600 was humble, you know what I mean. You would think 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.680 he would be with the broads. You think he would 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.520 be motherfucking and cussing all the time, But he was 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:36.720 really like a humble, cool dude. I had my son 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.200 with me back then. He had always take my son 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.520 like that type of spirit love kids, take us out 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.360 to eat niggas, don't eat all a fool. He'd take 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.600 the full give it to the whoever was homeless outside, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.119 you know what I'm saying. So he was like he 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.720 was just a cool, cool, cool dude, you know what 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.800 I mean, Like real, real, humble. Can you remember the 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:04.159 more that you heard about his death. I can. I 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.240 went straight to Cleveland because the moment it was, it 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.080 was so crazy. Man. We had went to New York. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:17.240 This was like this wasn't even ninety for almost nine 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.240 It was like November, right after Thanksgiving, we went to 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:25.600 New York. I remember we went to the tunnel and uh, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.760 he talked to Ice Cube that night were you know, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.960 we're kids, man, were like nive with Cube and Cube. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.080 But we're sitting there watching it, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.640 So like February, we heard that he was in the house. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.800 He was where he went to the hospital. Then we 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.080 heard about the AIDS you know what I mean. And 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.000 then it was like, well, he gonna be all right. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.760 We're still recording, he still got us in the studio, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.200 he's still paying for our room and board and basically 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.920 taking care of us, you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.639 we get a call like easy to eat gone, Like 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:06.199 what you mean gone? Like where you go? They're like, no, honey, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:11.119 heat he passed away, Like what because we couldn't see him. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.960 They wouldn't let us see him in the hospital, you 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.680 know what I'm saying. So it was like I thought 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.159 the world was over at that time, Like damn, we 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.440 just got on just our luck, bone thugs and bone thugs, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.480 just our luck with something good happened, and then something 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.520 bad happened, you know what I mean. So I remember 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.960 that day. I was sitting on my stairs talking to 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:38.480 my wife on the phone and then we get the 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.280 call and mean, I'll call you right back, and they 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.760 told us spread the news around the house, and we 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.520 was just lost. Man. So I went home to Cleveland 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.760 and said, I'm I thought rapping was over with for 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.760 a long time, for about at least three fot five 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.200 months before we got a call saying, okay, we need 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.639 you all to come in and finish what y'all was 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.639 doing one So it was that was the craziest period 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.280 in hip hop that I that we had to endure 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.679 losing him because he kept us solo. I mean, he 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.040 kept us separate from everybody, like we was like his 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.199 secret weapon. If if anybody remember he started getting his 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.280 hair braid and the curl was gone. He was like 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.320 a member of Bone, you know what I'm saying. So 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:30.520 I absolutely remember. It's hard to relive it too many. Yeah, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.760 I spoke to Easy. I never met Easy in person, 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:38.719 but I spoke to him once on the phone, and uh, 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.879 it's uh, it's one of those things that you know, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:46.760 like when you meet certain people you you you know, 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.800 you wish you had you would have uh I guess 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:55.560 uh uh alonger relationship with or even having a relationship with, 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.360 you know, some kind of because Easy was a brilliant dude, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.640 and he don't get an ugh credit for his brilliance. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.159 I mean, come on, man, dude gave us you know 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:14.680 in w A, JJ was in w A. You know, Yeah, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.639 had the foresight to see that, you know, but Bone, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.119 I mean I'm speaking as far as just like groups. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.040 This is two of the greatest groups of all times. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:28.359 Like anybody on anybody's top whatever list, Bone and w 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:35.919 A is gonna consistently come up. You know that dude 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:41.280 has some he has some foresight and insight. Do you 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.800 keep in touch with I guess Tami could put that 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.840 put the record out right after he died to Maka 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:53.560 and uh Cassandra where was a very very influential lady 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.440 that was helping to run the company at that time 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:01.760 as well. So she was the creative after easy that 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:06.119 helped guide our creativity into the new Crossroads because we 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.679 had the song cross Roads, which was dedicated to my 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.800 homeboy Wally, uh cousin Bull, a couple of people we 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.200 lost along the way, and then she had the insight 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.720 to say, well, let's let's remake this for E and 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:26.239 so Cassandra where it was very very instrumental and uh 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.280 Tamika was the executive. She was called she was, she 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.920 was the purse. She was, she was she was making 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:42.680 it happen. On songs, there's oftentimes a very little thing 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:48.440 that said in a song that really takes it all 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.119 the way. Like the song can already be jamming, but 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.920 you put us at a little thing or whatever the 0:22:54.080 --> 0:23:00.119 sound or whatever and bad So Crossroads. It's jack it 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.760 all the way through, but then just out of nowhere, 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.879 I don't want to think you like, who can I 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:13.200 miss everybody? That's busy that's busy Bone part. I'm gonna 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.400 miss everybody, and I'm gonna miss everybody. I'm sorry, yeah, 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.000 say yeah, I'm gonna that's busy. Shot that in that 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.480 busy Bones. Shot that in there, and that's you know, 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.159 the crowd sing that when he don't come, when he 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.359 when he not present. We let that song ride and 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.640 let the crowd sing that because they love to say 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.440 I'm gonna miss everybody, and and wish bond with that. 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.679 I missed my uncle Charles, y'all. You know what I'm saying, 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:47.000 Like those little it's bringing back memories. Man, It's uh, 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:59.920 that's some good stuff. Man. How do you feel about 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:06.440 out two days artists who are who has that harmonic 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.800 type sound like bone do you feel like you guys 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.199 you know a part of that evolution. I feel like 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:19.640 that's what besides having a song with Park Easy and Biggie, 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:25.760 those three, I feel like that's what solidified Bone thugs 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:30.920 and harmony. Like not to be cocky but we fathered that, 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.639 you know what I mean, like from when Mariah Carey 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:39.680 did it. You know what I mean to everybody, everybody 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:44.520 that sing and wrap and harmonized. Now I hear bone, 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.200 thugs and harmony in it. You know, we don't get 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:51.560 the props, but without us, it wouldn't be there, right, 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:57.440 you know. I used to think that, well, there, you 0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.520 gotta give me my props to people know what's up. 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.639 And then at some point I'm like, you know what 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:08.240 fun that you gotta remind people? Yeah, like yeah, yeah, 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:10.359 hey man, you say what you want to say. And 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.600 sometimes people, oh, yeah, oh that's right. He didn't do that. 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.399 Oh I ain't. I didn't know, you know, because I 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.439 used to didn't tell people about my rapping, you know, 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.320 like what as far as my writing, you know, when 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.520 I was writing for Bill, I never told anybody that 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.960 I wrote for Bill until Bill got on an interview 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.959 and said I didn't write for him, and I like, 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:38.680 wait a minute, man, I'm like, you know, especially considering 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.680 that I wrote the first thing that he ever I'm 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.879 the one that suggested that he become a member of 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.480 the get Aboard. I wrote his first rap. I wrote 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.199 Side and Ship my very first thing he said, and 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.320 the dude. For the dude to say that, I was like, man, 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.080 you know what, I'm gonna start telling motherfucker's everything that 0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:04.080 I do because sometimes, you know, being humble can can 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.320 cost you. Being too humble can cost you. Let's put 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.560 it like that. I think it's important for people to 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.840 know what you've done if you working on a project. 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:18.080 That's so many people in this world that work at 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:25.040 companies and organizations, even at uh at foundations, you know, 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:32.719 charitable foundations. They do a whole lot to make those 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.239 companies and organizations business or whatever move forward, but they 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.600 don't get any correct credit. They don't get the recognition 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.640 this person and fund of them who ain't really done 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.680 ship and get all of the credit. And I think 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.600 that it's important for people to make note and let 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.920 people know, nah, I did this or whatever. And of course, 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.119 if you work for a company, you gotta be careful 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.240 because some you know, what's that saying and for the 0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:01.240 laws of power never shot in the mask. You gotta 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.000 be very careful about that. How many kids you have 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:16.399 m hmm yeah, seven eight nine, you got nack? Yeah? Wow? Yeah? 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:23.920 How many boys and girls? Uh? Five? Five girls? Five 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:31.959 girls and four boys. Yeah, yeah, grown kids. Now I'm 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:38.520 five paup Paul and four boys. Any of the kids rapping, 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.840 all of them? Really? Yeah, I'm I'm the new Joe 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.600 Jackson man. All my kids get it. My son's my son, 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.720 Stephen Jr. He's just put out where he got three 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.880 new songs out right now on the internet and uh, 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.879 and he go up under the name of Stephen House Jr. 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.760 Won't change it to a rap name or nothing. So 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.280 he put out a couple of hitted hundred thousand on 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.720 one fuse the first day, you know. But he and 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:12.000 he actually sing, so they sing, They wrapped instruments, the 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.480 whole nine producing, you know. So they're definitely following in 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:21.160 my in my footsteps and bone footsteps. So yeah, I'm 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.920 gonna give you a list to who I who I'm 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:28.680 working with. I got Trinity, my daughter, who uh, growing 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.600 up hip hop is interested in and now I'm working 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.960 with growing up hip hop now you know what I'm saying. 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:40.320 So and my son Stevin, he's the rapper rapper, you know. 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.120 So and yeah, they they did and they they're ready, man. 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.400 But they they've been doing it since they came out 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.560 the wound. So you know, yeah, man, my kids are talented, 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.080 and I'm damn there to that level where I got 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.640 a couple more albums in me because I love music 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.640 so much. Man, it's my therapy, you know. I mean 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.680 that music. Me being there to have a studio at 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.160 home brought me home to my children, and I was 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.240 able to share that with him, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:15.640 So now I go home and they got four five 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.760 six that made songs done to, three albums put up 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.920 and you know, just waiting for the perfect time too 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.560 to hit the same with them. They out here and Houston. 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.840 I got two sons out here in Houston making noise 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:35.680 around the town. So yeah, they I mean not from Houston, 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.320 but they out here. I got their friends, the kids, 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.280 they went to school, We got family out here, so 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.280 they came down here. Actually a little Stevie's first video 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.520 it's done in Houston with the Houston back dropping all that. 0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:59.120 So yeah, I'm rooted. I'm rooted everywhere. Man. When you 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:04.960 look at your kids, even before let's say, let's talk 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.680 about before they got into the game, you never was 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.920 so jaded by the industry, like a lot of people 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.200 jaded by the industry, So you never was jaded, so 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.959 jaded by the industry that you said herself, you know, 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.880 I don't want you doing this, never to any of 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.479 your kids there, you know, because I always looked at 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.880 it like it was a challenge, you know, first of all, 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.520 the challenge of getting in the door, you know. Then 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.280 the second of all, the challenge of trying to make 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.080 my deals better because I got we got took so 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.360 many times, you know them deals wasn't right. But every 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:43.200 time I sold another record, I've always been, always been 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.080 about the business as well, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.400 So every time we did a platinum, I wanted to 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:54.000 renegotiate everything, and and by me knowing that getting advice 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.240 from e when for the love time that we did 0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.760 spend with him, that charged me up, Like, oh, it's 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.200 a game, y'all want to play the game. So if 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.840 I sell more records, I get to come back to 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.960 the table and holat two or you know what I'm saying. 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.240 So the negotiation part kept me into it. And my 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:19.200 whole thing was always to own everything I want. I 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.320 wanted to do it with little Jay was doing. I 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.280 wanted to do what easy he was doing. It and 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.600 Russ and Lee or Coin's and them. I wanted to 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:33.520 be that, you know what I'm saying. So music it's 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.160 my love and keep me grounded. But at the same time, 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.480 numbers and money in, you know, just to be the 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.200 best was always so I wasn't jaded about my kids. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:50.959 I never tried to, no, because all my life had 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.240 been music. My mother a singer, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.720 So my mother sung. She she never really made it, 0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.960 made it, but she did background with the uh oh 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.840 Jays and things like that, where I remember being real 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.480 little with her going to the bars and singing. So 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.960 I ain't never really seen another path but entertainment. So 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.560 is that where it comes from? Yeah, Mama Pete, Yeah, 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:20.680 Mama Pete. Man, she's she's a real brick house. Yeah, 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:26.520 that's your mom. Just celebrated a birthday. Yeah, and so 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:33.360 you guys in the same month, labor gang. Yeah, did 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.520 you ever have a birthday party together? Man? All my 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.800 parties was with my mom, you know, ever since I 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.560 was I was having house parties. Man. When I was 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.360 twelve years old, you know what I'm saying, all the 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.320 high school kids was coming. My mother let me she'd 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.680 rather stay home and do what we did instead of 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.640 running the streets, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.160 was allowed to do things other kids my age wasn't 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.920 able to do because my mom other you know, everything 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.520 that went on in the eighties, we did it my mother. 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.000 You know, at one point of time, the crack epidemic 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.200 had her. And you know, I was able to roam 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.800 around and I so dope and I did this, but 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.800 my mother made a safe haven at home. Bone came home, 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.160 you know what I'm saying. So we had house parties. Man, 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.600 we was the ship way back then. Like so my 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.640 kids get it honestly now that I you know, I 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.480 feel like I learned so much from being robbed and took, 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.960 like now with the Internet and I got all my 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:44.320 rights back working on getting our masters from Ruthless and 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.880 all that ship. Like, my kids are their own bosses, 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.800 you know. I mean, they're managing their own careers. They 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.880 just come to me for advice. I mean, I just consult. 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.760 Have you ever thought about moving out of Cleveland? Man? 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.160 I um, I mean, I'm I'm always have one ft 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.880 in Cleveland, but mainly I'm in l A because that's 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:11.879 where all my businesses you know what I'm saying, Like Cleveland, 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.880 we had to leave Cleveland to bring it back, you 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.040 know what I mean, because it wasn't there. It was 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:24.480 either you go to New York, come down south, or California. 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.520 And that's why I planted my my feet at California, 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:32.520 and I you know, my empire, it's on both sides, 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.120 but I'm in California because that's where all the business 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:41.239 at for me. How bad is the gang activity in 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.360 Cleveland now? Because I remember going to Cleveland to do 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.560 a show maybe like two thousand or something like that, 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.680 and I didn't know Cleveland was that bad. It's horrible. 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.799 I didn't know it was that bad. We had a show. 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.840 And when I say, the whole entire damn vine was 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:06.600 we're talking game, like everybody was game. I was like, damn, 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.399 what happened? And this was just I guess I hadn't 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.440 been there probably about maybe ten years. When I went right, 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:19.240 I was like, whoa, Yeah, that transformed, and that transforming 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.680 about it because when I was growing when I was 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.959 growing up, when we got on, I was twenty years old. 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:31.160 So the generation after that, like we didn't even believe 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.280 in gangs like that. We wrapped. Our streets were from 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.520 the street, you know. I mean, we're so dope, that's 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:44.640 what we did. So now it's they're young man, they died, 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.719 they're going fast, and you know, I know some very 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.719 influential people trying to help that cause in Cleveland. But 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:57.400 it's bad. It's it's bad. It's nothing. It's nothing to do. 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.799 That's why I'm trying to I'm trying to do what 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:05.200 I'm doing to bring it home. How did y'all feel, well, 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:10.319 how did you feel specifically when people were accusing you 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.480 guys are being devil wishippers worshipers back in the day. Yeah, 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.640 I remember y'all doing. Then y'all do something with a 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.920 Weji boy. I can't crystallized memory of it, but I 0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.120 remember something. I was doing something with a wei boy. 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:29.200 Let let me clarify that. So everything we probably ever did, 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.799 we wrote songs about. So in high school, somebody brought 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.680 a Weiji board to school and by the way, it's 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.640 a Parker Brothers game, you know what I mean. It 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.960 was bought at Toys or us. Somebody brought it to school. 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.319 We played it was like, oh man, we're gonna make 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:50.440 a song about it. Never thinking that because our most 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.160 of our families are Jehovah witnesses, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.359 So we grew up with Christ in us. And yeah, 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.360 our our family, it was mad. It was mad, but 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:07.080 we made songs crazy. Bam. Mama put us the funk out, 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.480 like she's seen that ship in her house and she 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.600 was like, get the fun out all y'all, get don't 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:16.480 come back, and yeah, broke it up. And but yeah, 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.080 we made a song about it. Man. And when people 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:24.000 thought we was uh devil worshipers, I just thought that 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.239 was absurd, Like if you really listen, if you really 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.759 a fan of Bone and you listen to it. We 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.680 mentioned guys so much in our music, like how could 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.279 you think that? But not knowing now that when I 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.319 look at hindsight, okay, I see what they how they 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:45.160 could have mistooken mistaken that. But now we we We 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.600 rocked with the Lord Man Jesus Christ all day long. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.920 Jan Roue was recently on the show and he told 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:59.600 me about how his mother was banished from That's Your 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:08.680 Hope for Witness program because she had been having relations 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:14.040 with worldly people, just like just kicking it with hanging 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.120 out with worldly people and they banished that I didn't 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.880 know Jehovah witnesses. Was that gangster? I just thought they 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.799 just knocked on doors. No, no, no, no, they get 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.520 rid of you. Man. It's it's some rules and things 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.120 that go along with being a Jehovah's witnesses. I studied. 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.759 I never became a Jehovah witness, but I studied Jehovah's 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.160 witness and like just like I studied, I studied up. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.640 I studied the Karan. My brother, Flesh and Bone is 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:45.640 a Muslim, so you got crazy Bone families, Jehovah witnesses. 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.880 My grandmother was a Jehovah's witness. My brother became a Muslim, 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:54.080 so we got we got so much. It's a diversity 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.440 with them bond as very very hard displain, but it 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.399 works because we talked about all all love it. Okay, 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.920 if you look at society, let's talk about American society. 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.880 American society is very diverse, but what we don't have 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:18.840 is people who have a tolerance for people who don't 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.359 have the same beliefs as they do. So how did 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:30.000 bone does in harmony make it work? Because bone thugs 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.480 and we found out real real early that we needed 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.720 each other because we was all dope on our own, 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.000 you know what I mean, Like we were, we dressed dope, 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.759 we was everything we did individually, we shined at it. 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.440 But we we when we recognize if if all of us, 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.320 because we used to do this, well, take our hands 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.200 like one, two, three, five, put it together. Now hit 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.080 that nigger, and that's how we thought, like as a whole, 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:07.320 we weigh stronger. So I think if American society realized 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.640 that little simple thing, you know, it's it's good to 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.440 be different and get different opinions, you get different outlooks 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.480 on things. And we embraced that, like at the ages 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.440 of twelve and thirteen, because we wanted out of the ghetto. Man, 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.480 it was hard, it was we was hungry, you know 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.680 what I'm saying. And when we rocked together, when we 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.960 wouldn't got that bag from the dope man like you 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.680 you on that corner, you on that corner, I'm gonna 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.520 be here, y'all, y'all got the night shift, and then 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.960 we'd take the day shift. Like we worked. We rocked 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.239 like that the whole time. So understanding that we were 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:48.240 stronger together as kids, that's how we got on because 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:53.200 we stuck together. But America, I just think it's too finicky, 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.239 you know what I'm saying, And they just complaining and 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.560 complaining and not appreciating. So that's a whole another bag, 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.959 This American pot wei in, you know what I mean. 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:08.839 But stronger together, we gotta saying. Called team. The ancronym 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:15.160 of team is together everyone achieves more. You know that, man, together, 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:23.480 everyone achieves more. That's the bond anchronym for team. When 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:28.640 you were in the streets, what's like the worst thing 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.439 that you saw that made you say, Man, I ain't 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.399 doing this father, I got to get the other out 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.319 of it. You know. I got shot in the head 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.759 at six Team. I went to jail when I was 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:44.160 fourteen for the first time. I was fourteen years I 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.240 never forget these dates. August twenty three, nineteen eighty nine, 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.080 sent me off. We was born. We was bandais boys 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.160 at that time, and I had to be away from 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.960 like my my boys always was my family, and I 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.600 had to be away for that. That's where the bone 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:06.319 came from, you know what I mean. Like plotting, it's 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:11.319 a it's a deep story behind bone. But the the 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.759 way it came about was me going to jail and 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.319 I had to come home. And when I did get 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.520 a chance to come home, I lived in Texas. I 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.600 lived in Dallas, went to a school called Trinity and 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.200 that was my tim gray year. And I came home 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.920 and I had to find my brothers. I had to 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.279 find wish Bone. I didn't know where he was at, 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.879 you know what I mean. I had to find crazy Bone. 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.440 I actually ran into his craziest dad walked in the 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.000 store and his dad was there and I'm like, where 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.520 the fund is that? And he told me and I 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.799 went and found him. And that's about the time my 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.680 mother introduced busy and I was going back to do 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.959 when I left off, like I was going to see 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.160 who who I used to get my bag from and 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.719 be like, yeah, I'm home. I ain't say nothing. I 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.360 did my little time, although it was juvenile, you know. 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.560 I went to Texas and came back and boom, walking 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.200 down the street, got mis stick in ass somebody else. 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.480 Niggas jumped out, tried to jump on me and my brother. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.600 We beat their ass, and nigga poured out a gun. 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:24.120 I tried to run and they hit me in the head. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.680 Still there, they said, don't do this, but I'm hardheaded, 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:34.480 so I shake it anyway. But yes, this so, but 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.759 that was a lifetime ago. It seemed like I was 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.120 sixteen years old. And that's when I said, you know what, 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.399 I ain't doing nothing else but music. And right after that, 0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.759 if I did sell dope, it was to get the 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:54.839 clothes we needed. I worked at KFC may show Ball 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.040 had everything we need, a fairy show, you know what 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.920 I'm saying, Like, so I struggle for this. I'm the glue. 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.640 Everybody got their role, you know what I mean. Crazy 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.680 Bone when it comes to wrap and he the sense 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.200 say to me, you know what I'm saying, be harmony 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:16.880 and fleshes the general and wishes the lieutenant at arms. Me. 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.160 I'm the glue. I'm the liber I'm the one gonna 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.960 go get everybody like it's time to come home, It's 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.680 time to do this. It's it's money to be made. 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:31.360 So that's my perspective role with the Bone, thugs and Harmony. 0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.319 So getting shot in the head, that was it for me. 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.719 I'm like, I ain't doing this, no mo. It was 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.280 time to leave Cleveland. And then they killed my best friend. 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.560 My best friend while he was breaking up a fight 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.520 some ship. He ain't had nothing to do with Nigga, 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.640 couldn't hand me, pulled out a pistol, shot him in 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:55.080 the chest. And when our first when Faces of Death 0:44:55.160 --> 0:45:00.640 was coming out, we got the tape back the day before, 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.480 a couple of days before his funeral, and I buried 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.080 the tape in his put the tape in his uh 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:12.440 in the coffin, and after that it was like music. Music. 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.720 We got to get out of Cleveland. That was the mission. 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:21.040 Did they ever found your shooter? Nope, So you could 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:24.759 have ran across from any number of times you could 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.920 have showed up at a bone concert. I probably shook 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:32.799 his hand, and if to be honest, if I knew 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.880 who he was, I would shake his hand. Thank you, 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:42.279 Nigging for changing my mind. H See, I must change 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:46.040 your mind. Literally, Yeah, I almost made me lose my 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:53.239 mind too, literally exactly. Um that that shell. You don't 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:57.400 have to get tested for lead poisoning mm hmm Nope, 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.960 because when it entered I mean at this bomb and 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.799 my my doctor's called me iron head, and every now 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:09.160 and again I get pains up in here. But that's all. 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.840 It's like they're saying, it's too dangerous to try to 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:17.719 take it out. They couldn't get it. Yeah, I guess they. Yeah, 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:22.319 they couldn't. They couldn't get to it. Yeah. I had 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:26.640 one in my chest and I had it taken out, 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:32.000 lived with it for about and probably three or four years, 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.200 but I got tired of getting tested. I was paranoid 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.600 about getting tested for lead parts and like catching lad parts, 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.680 and so I would get tested a couple of times 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.200 a year, and then finally I just got removed. Mine 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:49.480 wasn't as dangerous to remove. So yeah, and my and 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:54.560 this it was five so so little that they, you know, 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.640 they thought it would be more detrimental to move that thing. 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.359 And I had lost it. It blew my ear out, 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.920 like I was. I couldn't hear my left ear for 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.359 a few years, and then one day I just popped in, 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:15.080 like miraculously, miraculously, So yeah, I considered that a blessing. 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:29.960 About a year ago, you hopped on Instagram and went 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.200 in on the me Goes people talking about Me Goes 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:36.480 is the greatest group, the greatest hip hop group and 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.680 all this step Steph, and you had something to say 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:43.320 about it. For those who don't remember that, explain what 0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:48.920 was going on, oh man? For so, I know how 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.399 I passed it up since then, but I mean, it's 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.960 all it's it's cool now, but and I was. It 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.959 was I was fighting a battle that wasn't even mine, man, 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.200 you know what I mean. It was Uh, I guess 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:06.200 big Boy from from the radio out out in l 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:11.480 A had asked one of them goals, Um, you know, 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.120 do y'all feel like you're the greatest group? And by 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.560 the way, which I think everybody should feel like they're 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:20.120 the greatest, you know what I'm saying. And um he 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.560 said what he said, and then Busy took it a 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:29.919 certain way, and Busy Bone got that um big boy 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.600 like yeah, you like he had a problem with big boys. 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:42.160 So that little talking and beef was going on, and 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:46.040 some street niggas had gotta started talking, had got into it. 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:47.960 So I felt like I had to stand up for 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.920 Bone because Bone is like my baby, you know what 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:57.360 I'm saying, and um, and it was just talk talk talk, 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.440 and I hadn't said nothing that I I was just 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:06.120 watching that this time. And then um he got on 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:10.560 there and said something to the effect that them old 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:14.319 broke niggas, and that pissed me off because I'm like, 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.800 you comme I think it was it was offset because 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.680 I really went at him. I never heard the other 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.440 to really say anything about it, but it was offset that. 0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:28.400 It was like uh like saying like we was played out, 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.680 we was broken. Then they said they was the greatest group, 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.640 not just in hip hop but in rap. But when 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:39.320 the niggas said that we was broke, I'm like, oh, no, Nigga, 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.520 I worked for mine. And then so I got at him, 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:47.720 and then uh, one of the other little rappers says something, 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.400 and then it started turning into a thing. So I'm like, 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.320 I just jumped on the mic and felt a certain way. 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.880 He didn't write nothing down and just went at nigga's heads. 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.800 You know what I'm saying. It's like because I felt 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:05.560 like you, like I bond thugs and Harmony, would never 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:10.320 disrespect ghetto boys because y'all paved the way for us. 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.759 You know what I'm saying. We would never disrespect in 0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:16.560 w way. We would never disrespect tribe called quests or 0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:20.400 anybody that put the work in. I just start feeling 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.279 like these little niggas really think they they're ungrateful, Like 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.799 nig you wouldn't be getting that bag if we put 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:30.120 the work in and then you're saying you're the greatest group. 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.239 But now you're saying you created my style. Man, fuck you. 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:38.040 That's how I felt. But I mean now it's like 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.880 I wish I wouldn't have said nothing because they didn't 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.080 pop back. I'm like that, and and it was like, well, 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.560 let's count the money, let's see who's back the big No, 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:51.200 we're your skills at because we take this rap ship serious, 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.600 like it's an art and it's a real art, you 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.560 know what i mean. So the art was like, I mean, 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.680 they ain't want to They adn't want to do that. 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:06.240 So I want a lot of people today they measure 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:17.600 importance by how much money one has a right, and 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.160 I just think about so many people who has had 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:25.120 an unlimited amount of money who ain't ship. I mean, 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:29.560 just like, you know, i'mna kind of dude that I 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:34.200 could be impressed with what someone does, but I'm more 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:38.560 impressed with what kind of person you are. That's what 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:44.680 impressed me the most, because I'd rather eat crumbs with 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.440 bombs and snakes, I mean, steaks with snakes, you know 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.120 what I'm saying. I would rather eat crumbs with bombs 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:56.440 than steaks with snakes, and that's the way I I operate, 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:00.800 And it's just it just trips me out the level 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.240 of as kissing that's out there with when it comes 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:11.440 to people with money. When I was growing up, you 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.520 could be hard and everything, and you could be a 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.360 dude in the streets getting money. But if you couldn't 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.640 protect your own money, nobody respected you. They're gonna take it. 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.120 They would take it. For these days, these guys, I 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.040 actually out here protecting these dudes. They they're out here 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.240 like getting in the way of the bullets and stuff. 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.719 You know, Like of course, well they get in the 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.520 way if they think the bullets ain't really gonna come, 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.239 but when they really come, they get the hell out. 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:43.880 I wait. But like, we wouldn't protect a sucker. We 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:47.480 would protect a dude that wasn't gangster, but you know 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:49.920 he was getting his money, but he respected the code 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.880 and he looked out for people in the hood or whatever, 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:58.920 and you know he didn't he didn't flunt. Right, We 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.080 protect that type of but just like a regular sucker 0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.799 and a matter how much of money, hey man, we're 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.279 coming up on get that. You you got to give 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.880 it up because we we just didn't respect I mean 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.279 he's talking about, you know, growing up around a whole 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.320 bunch of wolves. Man, you know, like man and everybody 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.320 trying to eat and you're you're getting all this money 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.360 and you're a sucker and you you know, you're shipping 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.120 on people. Oh man, you ain't gonna survive. Yeah, you're 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:29.360 not gonna Absolutely, I'm cut from that cloth. That's the 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.200 cloth I'm covering from. And that's that was the point, 0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:36.719 Like your characters all I like, young man, you don't 0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.560 even know. I just turned forty seven, not and did 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:44.080 more in life for so many, so many, so many 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.759 people like don't count my pockets. That that ain't what 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:49.920 you do out here in the streets, because once you 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.759 get to count niggas pockets, niggas knock your head off, 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:58.120 like keep it real. These days ship you got rappers 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:04.120 that's full blown known snitch and they're still selling records. 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.279 I don't. It's like, I'm not from that era. So 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:12.640 my thing was, don't disrespect the people who lays your 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:17.080 foundation down. That was my whole principle behind that. And 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:23.000 actually Snoop told me, he was like don't even He 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.359 was like, later on, you bigger than that. Just don't. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:28.759 It ain't worth it. It's business, and I wish I 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:32.399 would have listened at that time. So that's water under 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:36.799 the bridge, and I'm pretty sure you know they'd are 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.560 matured a little bit too, so we can get money. 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.080 I wanted to look up something right quick. I'm trying 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:47.640 to see this actress's name, Ellen Pompio. I guess that 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.680 I don't know how to pronounced her last name. But 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:55.480 she's facing some backlash for disrespecting density at Washington. Does 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.239 that Washington? She talked. She told a story on her 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:03.840 podcast where in the day when Denzel Washington was directing 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.279 an episode of Great Anatomy. She was trying to tell 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:13.040 one of the actors how to get through the scene 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.680 and Denzel interjected and say, you know, don't you tell 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:19.560 him what to do? I'm the director, And she said, 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.120 motherfucker this mu said. She said, she said that to Denzel. 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:24.000 She thought she was gonna get a lot of praise, 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.520 but they lit her ass up on Twitter. I mean 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:29.920 they lit her up. And that goes to your point, 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.520 you know, the disrespect, Like Denzel open the doors and 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.560 he continues to open doors for anybody that comes after him. 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:40.680 He laid the foundation. Denzelvis one of the most respected 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:46.000 actors of all times. And even outside of acting as 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.879 a man, you know, as a philanthroper, you know, as 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:54.480 a you know, philanthropist, as a as a you know, 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.759 just as a as a father. You know, this man 0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:02.080 is where respected and for heard of. You know this, 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:03.960 this this is type of stuff we would never hear 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.920 here back in the day, we would never hear uh 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:12.640 an actor or anybody that was basically someone who came 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:16.840 after someone who laid the foundation, who paved the way, 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.399 being disrespectful like that. And I said that to make 0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:25.360 this point, keep waking up and then you're gonna be 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:30.680 that person who paved the way. That's gonna be getting 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:35.280 shipped on, getting disrespected and being called old and broke 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:38.400 or whatever. Right. It just trips me out how so 0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:43.920 many people disrespect people who are older. And you don't 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:45.759 have to be seven, eight and nine years old, you 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:52.160 can be thirty. They just hate that. The mother fucking 0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:56.759 point isn't that The point of the point is to 0:56:56.920 --> 0:57:00.200 get get like me right, get up and did you 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:05.640 want to get and you can basically become like a 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:10.279 social encyclopedia right for you? People get the youngster can 0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.680 come and get the game, you know, Like I just 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.160 was always that dude that like to be around the 0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.800 older people to suck the game up. I never, when 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:24.200 I say never, I never disrespected old people like that. Yeah, 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:29.240 I mean I was taught respect your elders bottom nine. 0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.480 You know, back when I was growing up, we are 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:36.080 on our street and everybody knew everybody. You know what 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.160 I'm saying, Like it ain't like that no more. The 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:42.040 communities all broke up and things like that. So if 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:45.120 I was running up and down the street being disrespectful, 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.560 then somebody let my mama know, my mama gonna whoop 0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:52.160 my ass. And then not only that, she's gonna get 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.480 permission to whoever caught me to you know, snatch a 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.960 not and out of nigger. So I don't know where 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:02.320 we lost it at, and but we gotta get it 0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:07.880 back because we gotta get it back, like because I mean, 0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:11.960 my kids are walking here and they got what I got, 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.400 you know what I'm saying, Like I put that time 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.200 in with him to let them know, Like you, I 0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.800 don't care if you if you think you right, that's 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.160 your elder. You shut the funk up and get out 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:24.880 the door with your difference of opinion, you know what 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:29.840 I mean, because it's aged before beauty, the wisdom. You 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:31.760 know what I mean. You're in part the people who 0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:34.240 can impart that wisdom on you. You know what I'm saying, 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.080 Like I look up to y'all, y'all my o g 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:40.720 s you face. You know what I mean, Cube, I 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:43.840 was raised, I was out there. I'm raised by y'all. 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:47.200 You know what I'm saying, Like I didn't go do 0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:51.520 what you said you were doing. You know what I mean. 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:56.360 I learned and wanted to critique, like damn they said, 0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.840 like do it like this and like soaking up game. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:04.480 So maybe maybe the kids want to be sponges again. 0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.880 It looked like it looked like the ignorance might be 0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:10.880 stirred around a little bit to where it's changing. Because 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:15.360 my kids, my my my homies kids and all that 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.840 they was taught to be respectful. You know what I'm saying. 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:20.840 That we kept them in the Bible. All though we 0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:25.160 talked the street ship, we still the basic instructions before 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.520 leaving Earth. It's put in their hands, you know what 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:34.840 I mean. By the way Bible acronym basic instructions before 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:39.760 leaving earth. Yeah, I never heard that before. That's tight, man. 0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:44.360 I think you owned something about these kids being sponges 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.600 and wanting to suck up the game, because I'm in 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:54.480 the same boat. My kids very respectful, My friends kids 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:59.160 very respectful. So that's why I never like make these 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:03.200 sweeping general realizations about today's youth because I know so 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.520 many youngsters who are getting it and doing well. You know, 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:09.120 I know a lot of them who are on the 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.880 right path, and a lot of them are getting money, 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:16.640 and they have integrity. They're not just doing anything to 1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:20.000 get money. They have integrity. They care about how they're 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:23.000 viewed by their family. They understand them when they go 1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:26.360 out there, they're not just representing themselves, they're representing their 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:30.600 family and they get it. So it's salute, salute to 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:32.920 every one of you out there. So it salute to 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.120 the to the mothers and the fathers, and the aunts 1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.040 and the uncles you know, and and the and the 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:41.960 cousins and the grandparents and and and family friends who 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:45.800 are who are helping and helping to raise these kids. 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:50.960 Because it really does take a village, you know, I really, 1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:55.240 I really appreciate it. Uh, Like you have no idea 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.680 when I see stuff like that you're seeing you talk about. 1:00:57.720 --> 1:00:59.919 They gave me chills when you say, you know you're 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:04.760 kids get it and your homeboys. Yeah, we cut from 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:09.480 the same cloth. Man. But you know something, I I 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:15.400 think it goes beyond just disrespectful elderly. I think it 1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:21.320 you know, elders, It goes to the heart of how 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.160 a person is just disrespectful. Period. Some people are just 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:28.960 disrespectful and they don't respect nothing. So you find somebody 1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:31.600 who don't respect their elders, and that's a person who 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:34.479 don't respect nothing. I can guarantee you if that person 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:36.640 don't respect their elders, that's a person that don't respect 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:39.600 their mother or their father. They don't respect their grandparents, 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.680 they don't respect their they don't respect their peers, they 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:47.520 don't respect their contemporaries. Some people are just disrespectful and 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:51.520 they need their asses whooped, you know, like really whooped, 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:55.200 like really Like I ain't talking about a scuffle. I'm 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:59.760 talking about an ass whooping so severe that you say 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:07.080 to yourself, God, if you let me survive this with nobody, 1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:10.400 I'll never do that again. That's the type of ass 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:14.720 whipping that needs to be administered and it's coming because 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:17.600 there's always somebody badder than you, and that's gonna be 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:22.880 always somebody that ain't going to accept the disrespect. It's coming. 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:26.560 So some of you out there that might be listening, man, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.920 quick while you're head man, it's okay. You reap what 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:33.800 you soul man, you absolutely do. So you know, I 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.840 take my hat off to the young jeez that's doing it. 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:40.200 There's so many that I respect, and I refused to 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:44.400 let one or two bad apples ruin it for all 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:47.760 up because we we paid them dudes already. We're not 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:51.360 going back. I just had this conversation with Tretch, you 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:55.959 know what I'm saying about how shout out yeah, shout 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.640 out the trigger trash man because I always get jewels 1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:01.880 from him. And we was just talking and about like 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:06.720 how what we had to go through in order for 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:11.400 our children to have the growing up hip hop opportunities 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:16.320 and things like that. So the beefing within gotta stop. 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:19.680 The ol gs gotta step in and talk to the kids. 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:23.040 And and I'm feeling the vibe of it's enough of 1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:26.080 us now to really like we can't be too busy 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:30.760 to raise them because if we want this planet, you know, 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:33.840 we gotta that's what we gotta do, and just to 1:03:33.880 --> 1:03:37.840 go back. I don't blame the children. I kind of 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:41.400 blame America because Mark, you know, they locked my uncle's 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:44.280 up man, they locked them up in and we was lost. 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:47.480 I was selling dope, you know, but my grandfather was 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:53.600 on something different. He had his playing baseball and youth associations. 1:03:54.000 --> 1:03:57.440 They put crack on the streets, which took the attention 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.600 away from raising the kids, you know what I mean. 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:03.600 Like I was out there, I got shot, so I 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:07.840 guess I'm here now just to say I could have 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:12.040 been unlucky enough to not be here, but since we're here, 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:16.400 like it just we could change it. Let's revisit something 1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:21.520 real quickly. Your relationship with your mother was a very 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:27.320 good relationship, you would say, right close with that being said, 1:04:27.600 --> 1:04:33.240 how did you end up in the streets because my 1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:37.120 mother ended up on drugs, you know what I mean? 1:04:37.680 --> 1:04:41.960 And I also pride mysel phone helping my mother get 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:46.680 off for drugs. Once I understood how them drugs got 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:51.000 into America, and once I understood what we was really against, 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:54.360 like well, how we didn't put these guns here? And 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.120 I was learning all this stuff from hip hop was 1:04:57.240 --> 1:05:01.240 teaching us like, although, yeah, we had to fuck the 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:04.680 police and all this, but you still had another angle 1:05:04.760 --> 1:05:09.800 of you know, guidance of saying, well KRS one, telling 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:12.320 us who put it in? How did it get here? 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:16.040 It was you know, we're hungry, Why why we got 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:20.240 you know, this is our only alternatives, our only alternative. 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:25.080 So once I understood that, I stopped blaming my mother, 1:05:25.240 --> 1:05:27.480 Like I always loved my mother with a passion, but 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:32.160 I was mad my friends knew she was on that ship, 1:05:32.920 --> 1:05:35.040 you know, I meaning, it didn't make me feel good, 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:37.280 so I would end up selling it. I needed some 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:40.000 Jordan's you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be 1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:44.480 up to date. I wanted to look good going to school, 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.720 you know what I'm saying. So by the time I 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:51.360 was I was fourteen when I got knocked the first time, 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:55.240 six team when I got shot, I was famous by 1:05:55.280 --> 1:06:01.560 twenty because I started reading. I read Napoleon Hill. You know, 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.320 I passed my kids different that I passed them the 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:08.840 books to self help books that my uncle's wasn't there 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:12.440 to pass me would pass to me. So I understood, 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:16.280 like they the incosperation and how they how they was 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.760 getting paid when I found out by Barker on penitentiaries, 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:22.880 and I used to cut school to watch prices. Right, 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:27.560 this motheruck's talking about, come on down, the price is right, 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:33.360 and you owning penitentiaries, like, but you're getting paid for that. 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:37.080 So I I when I start seeing the monopoly and things, 1:06:37.160 --> 1:06:42.560 you know, I start when I start educating myself, I 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:47.520 started doing different. So that's all it is, is an education. 1:06:48.040 --> 1:06:49.960 The reason why I ask you the question is because 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:52.760 you know what we always say, it starts at home, right, 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:55.240 And I know it don't start out of nowhere. It 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:58.320 starts at home. Everything starts at home, no matter what 1:06:58.960 --> 1:07:01.680 the government got going on, it starts at home. Now 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:07.880 we know. I think it's important that we put the 1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:15.800 blames squarely on who's ever, whoever participated. Right. We are 1:07:15.880 --> 1:07:20.080 the generation that came before this generation, the first and foremost. 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:23.880 We're responsible for the new generation in my opinion too. 1:07:24.120 --> 1:07:28.800 And then the generation before us are responsible also because 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:31.600 obviously they didn't give us something that we needed. Right. 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:37.200 But ultimately, you know, you go to the family, you 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.880 go to the person, the individual, right, Because for me 1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:44.640 I understood early on, I was like, man, this government 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:49.880 is fucked up. They hate us for real, and they 1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:52.720 do have traps out there, and I walked right into 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:58.400 some of those traps, understanding that I have to make 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:03.840 sure that I avoid those traps. It's on me. I 1:08:04.040 --> 1:08:07.120 know who these people are, I know they don't life, 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:11.360 I know what they're doing. I see it. I'm not 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:16.280 going to participate in the factory. I can't for the 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:20.080 sake of myself and my seeds. My children are like, 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:23.280 I got a position, my baby so that they don't 1:08:23.280 --> 1:08:27.000 get got by this system too, you know. And so 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:29.280 I didn't want I didn't want that to go on 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:33.040 say it because sometimes you know, we will say, you know, 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:35.880 we blame the system, and rightfully so this is a 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:42.400 very wicked, very dibolical system and the people, and you know, 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:44.600 let me go further than the system and say the 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:49.080 people that work within the system, many of them are 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:57.680 very very evil, voul, uncivilized, months greedy, say man, the 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:04.200 worst of the worst. Right knowing that I like our 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:06.760 smarten ass, I like to make sure yeah, yeah, you 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:09.599 get me. You thought I wouldn't get the land. I 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:11.640 got it. Yeah, I'm gonna be able to get that. 1:09:11.720 --> 1:09:14.360 I got it. You thought I was gonna be there 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:17.439 got you, you know, Oh you try to get me 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:19.400 in that contection. You trying to get me. Oh my, 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:21.679 I see what you're out doing. I'm gonna go this way, 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:24.680 you know. Like, So, this is what I impart on 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:27.760 my kids daily, and I impart on anybody that really 1:09:27.760 --> 1:09:32.639 would listen. Is that at the end of the day, 1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:38.720 it's on us. We gotta because if if we put 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:42.120 it on somebody else, then we don't have to take responsibility. 1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:44.920 It's like if you're playing basketball, right, You're playing a 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:48.000 game of basketball and you say, well, man, you know 1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:49.680 the reason I lost, Man because I ain't had the 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:53.160 right out of shoes, Like, I don't give it the work. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:56.040 I can keep playing bad foot it. I ain't gonna 1:09:56.520 --> 1:10:00.559 no excuses. I'm out the wind, and I don't want 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:05.400 to have excuses because excuses hurt Excuses hurt me. Like 1:10:05.520 --> 1:10:08.479 it's like when I just admit it. If I admit 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.960 an excuse, it's like, well, why didn't you do anything 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:15.000 about it? Like so my thing is, hey, man, we 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:18.000 can complain all day, but after we complain, let's do 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:22.640 something about it. And so I am of the understanding 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:26.519 that if we do something about it, we understand who 1:10:26.520 --> 1:10:28.760 these people are. We understand how the system is really. 1:10:28.880 --> 1:10:34.639 We it's been really from day one. So ain't nothing 1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:39.160 special about us when we consider what I our ancestors 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:44.120 went through, right, and even our grandmothers and parents went through, 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:47.519 you know, in civil during the civil rights era. You know, 1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:50.680 there's nothing new under the sun, even Jim Crow and 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:53.920 all that stuff. You know, So ain't nothing special about 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:58.160 us in regards to what they experienced. And if they 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:01.880 could get through it and take it off, what hell? 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:05.559 I know, we can do it, and we gotta do it. 1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:09.000 We don't really have a choice. Start with the man 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:13.559 in the mirror. Y'all want it for yourself period, you know. 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:16.600 And and and that's it. And I'm glad you clarified 1:11:16.600 --> 1:11:19.920 that because I'm definitely not pointing the finger over there. 1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:26.599 It's start right here. I want to get their asses too, 1:11:26.640 --> 1:11:30.360 because de some dirty, dibolical, low down uncivilized much so 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:33.599 their assets got to be called out. I hear people say, well, 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:36.000 you're always blaming this person. Are you blaming this and 1:11:36.040 --> 1:11:39.320 blaming this? You know? Yeah, mother, I'm gonna get anybody 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:43.360 who is liable. They are liable. The US government is 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:47.760 liable first, and foremost they all liable. But at the 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:53.120 same time, we can't just use that as an excuse 1:11:53.200 --> 1:11:56.360 not to excel. We still gotta do what we gotta do. 1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:02.599 In spite of we gotta live. We got the well man, 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:08.360 because you have lived, Because Stephen House has lived. Man, 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:12.320 we have been blessed with some of the greatest music 1:12:13.880 --> 1:12:18.960 in history like that. Anybody could say whatever the hell 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:22.280 they want to say, but they cannot take away your 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:26.040 contribution to hip hop and what you continue to give 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:28.559 to us. Man. Like you said a few moments ago, 1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:32.439 you read with yourself, Man, you have sold some hell 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:34.559 of a seeds man, and we appreciate you for her. 1:12:34.600 --> 1:12:38.160 That's that's definitely an honor coming from you, man. Absolutely, 1:12:38.200 --> 1:12:40.400 you know what I'm saying, big bro. And you just 1:12:40.479 --> 1:12:44.200 don't vot you well, you know we can't for I 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:46.800 ain't gonna get on the soapbox. But I love you, man, 1:12:47.320 --> 1:12:50.479 and I respect you, and that's an honor. And me 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:54.200 and my bros and we know the ship y'all wrote 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:56.960 helped us get to where we are. You know what 1:12:57.040 --> 1:13:00.439 I'm saying. Without y'all, it wouldn't be no bone without 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:04.840 a couple of people that influenced our lives in the 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:07.400 in the manner that made us want to be creative, 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:10.880 like damn, we could do that, and here we are. 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:14.040 And that's and all I'm doing is all I'm doing 1:13:14.080 --> 1:13:17.519 is passing the betime. What I'm saying, I just turned 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:22.160 forty seven, man, I'm playing on going on tour at sixty. 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:28.200 I mean, I mean having to, not having to. But 1:13:28.320 --> 1:13:30.479 we've been on the road for twenty seven years and 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:33.280 we probably do like two hundred fifty days a year, 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:36.840 so I can cut that down to about fifty, you 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.680 know what I mean. But watching watching the kids and 1:13:39.720 --> 1:13:42.320 these artists that I got up under me, man, I'm like, 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:46.720 I'm content, you know what I mean. I feel like 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:50.320 I didn't my plate. I still got some steak on 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:54.120 my plate. I'm getting full, Like now, who else want 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:56.639 to eat? You know what I'm saying. So just spreading 1:13:56.640 --> 1:14:01.040 it out, That's all I want to do. Thank you, man, 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:04.320 I love you back man, We love you. Thank you, 1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:13.280 ladies and gentlemen. Lazy Bump in the building. This episode 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:15.920 was produced by Aching and brought to you by The 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:20.160 Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio.