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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, Our conference champions in their

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Speaker 1: Hearts from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Championship Sunday edition. I am Dan Hansis. I am

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Speaker 1: joined by heroes, Greg Rosendalf, Mark Sessler, Gentlemen. It is

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Speaker 1: set two weeks from tonight three pm Pacific kickoff on

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Speaker 1: Fox Television, State Farm Stadium. The setting in Glendale, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs against the Philadelphia Eagles to sixteen

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Speaker 1: and three teams, two number one seeds. For all of

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Speaker 1: the proverbial marbles. Let's go, let's go. This is uh,

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Speaker 1: this is exciting. It also feels like the finality of

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Speaker 1: it is very sudden. We're coming off this AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: game that we're gonna get into it. But it does

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Speaker 1: feel crazy that like this is our last time here

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Speaker 1: recapping games for the season. Will be at State Farm Stadium. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you could have played out the whole season, or

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Speaker 1: you could have just read the NFL dot Com Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl predictions before the year and just skipped it all

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Speaker 1: and you would have seen. I had Chiefs over comes

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Speaker 1: down once again to Greg talking about Greg and Greg's

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Speaker 1: picks at the top of this show, especially that that's

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Speaker 1: what makes it funny. That's disturbing to me. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, you did pick that, and I think you

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Speaker 1: had in an even bolder choice. Patrick Mahomess m v P.

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Speaker 1: Another victory, that's true. How do you come up with

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Speaker 1: these picks? Anyway? I guess we can skip the next

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Speaker 1: two weeks of predicting the game and talking about it

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen? So here we go. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go over both games today in detail. Um, the second game,

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Speaker 1: the game that just rapped before we came on today,

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Speaker 1: absolutely the better game of the bunch. But don't tell

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans that they love the first game against the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners. Of course, it's one of those games where

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Speaker 1: you gotta give credit to the winner. But as a

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Speaker 1: football fan that is just agnostic on this. You wish

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Speaker 1: you maybe saw something different. You wish you saw full

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Speaker 1: powered Niners team against a full powered Eagles team. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes the football gods don't give us what we want.

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Speaker 1: But again Eagles fans don't care, and nor should they.

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Speaker 1: Let's head to the link and is second out of

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Speaker 1: five Perts gives it off. Sanders into these Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 1: quote an unbelievable job. Kelsey's run my lot of off

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Speaker 1: the left side. A mild Sanders scored a suck a

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Speaker 1: touchdowns of the games and the second of his career

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Speaker 1: in the post season. That was Merrill Reese and Mike

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Speaker 1: Quick w I P. Miles Sanders have a day, kid too,

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Speaker 1: touchdowns on just eleven carries. Jalen Hurts through a hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty one yards. That's all right. Didn't need to

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Speaker 1: do much because the Philadelphia Eagles overwhelmed the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty Niners thirty one seven. They're back in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl for the fourth time, the second time and I

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Speaker 1: believe five years and you know what, Greggy, credit to

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Speaker 1: the entire organization and start for me anyway with Howie

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Speaker 1: Roseman Jeffrey Lurry of course the team owner. This is

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Speaker 1: the first UH team in NFL Super Bowl history to

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Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl within a five year

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Speaker 1: span with a different quarterback and head coach. It was once,

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Speaker 1: of course Doug Peterson with a combo of Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: and of course Nick Foles and now Nick Sirianni. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts to the big Dance. Yeah, I, as you guys know,

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Speaker 1: I'm loyal to football, so this game was a disappointment

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Speaker 1: to be one sided. But I don't want to start

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Speaker 1: with the disappointing aspects. I want to start with loyal

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Speaker 1: to football, the ways that I think the Greg centric

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Speaker 1: start to the I know I'm in and I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: he started with us. With me, they their pass rush

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Speaker 1: don't know what would have been, but I know that

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Speaker 1: the Eagles defensive line house the forty Niners early and

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Speaker 1: It's not really the way I see this, because the

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Speaker 1: What happened today, Uh, it doesn't diminish that for me,

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Speaker 1: what would have been I think a titanic game because

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Speaker 1: you can't throw. They're a one dimensional team and they're handing.

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Speaker 1: They're just essentially handing the ball off as the clock

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Speaker 1: intrigues me. Yeah, so this game is it really gets

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Speaker 1: But how about this, Greg, And we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: which is ceaselessly explained as being this great benefit to

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Speaker 1: And by that replay, there was no way to tell

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Speaker 1: Olsen in that moment saying what a great catch, absolutely

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate what I read the NFL. This Hawkeye technology

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Speaker 1: This is the only game game being played. Whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't seeing they scored touchdown the Eagles. We saw

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Speaker 1: That's that's what it Usually when a deep backup comes

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Speaker 1: Brock party we we all wondered what he melt down.

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Speaker 1: what would have happened here, because I also think the

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Speaker 1: hurt and all the quarterbacks that they went through. They

428
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Speaker 1: were healthy, and they lost that one with a ten

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Speaker 1: point lead in the fourth quarter. But then you think

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Speaker 1: the injury the next year, and then you think last

431
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: year Jimmy G playing through injury was the worst version

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Speaker 1: of Jimmy G and blowing the ten point lead in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of the NFC championship game, and then this,

434
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: and you hate you hate to like, like no one

435
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: likes to hear it when their teams win, especially or

436
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: just anything. But like sports are very often about luck,

437
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: and championship teams, the greatest players ever benefit from that.

438
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: It's just it's just part of it. Like you gotta

439
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: take advantage of it when you have that opportunity. The

440
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Eagles earned that one seed by g having the best

441
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Speaker 1: record in the league two and setting all of this up.

442
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: But luck is part of it, and that was terrible luck.

443
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: They've had awful injury luck under Shandahan, and he's had

444
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Speaker 1: to perform all sorts of acrobatics at the quarterback position

445
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: for years on end. And it's like we spent all

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Speaker 1: last off season wondering if it would be Jimmy G

447
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: or Trey Lance, and now you go into another off

448
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: season and we'll get into all that, but it's like, what, like,

449
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions at quarterback and what you

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Speaker 1: do with a young Ricky who looked fantastic If this

451
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: is a serious elbow injury for party that. I mean,

452
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 1: it just keeps getting worse because then he's tomorrow, everything

453
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: is snowballing and everything will roll into next season. They

454
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Speaker 1: don't get a true fresh start next year. Um, any

455
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: other thoughts kind of on this game before we move on.

456
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: I think this this game and maybe we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: more in the coming weeks, But I do wonder if

458
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Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna look more closely at changing the

459
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Speaker 1: rules in terms of the rugby scrum and being able

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Speaker 1: to push the quarterbacks the butt the butt, the butt

461
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: push like a double cheek because you got two double

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Speaker 1: cheek push. Again. It was early in this game when

463
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Speaker 1: we didn't really know what the final result was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: You never know what Josh Johnson, I mean, it is

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Speaker 1: crazy looking at the final sets, the Eagles average under

466
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Speaker 1: four yards per play, they still ended up with two

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Speaker 1: sixty nine. Uh, and like you didn't know what was

468
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and so those short yardage plays with hurts

469
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: felt really important, especially on the goal line, and I

470
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: just sense like the frustration of how effective this. The

471
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Speaker 1: Eagles are especially good at it, I think because of

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Speaker 1: their offensive lining because it hurts. But I expect the

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Speaker 1: Rules Committee will be talking about this and we will

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Speaker 1: be talking about it in March when when they meet.

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Speaker 1: It's almost crazy when you see teams and we've seen

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Speaker 1: situations where it's fourth and a yard and they're not

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Speaker 1: doing that play, that they're trying something else, because because

478
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Speaker 1: the Eagles especially have trademarked is like the most automatic

479
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: fourth down maneuver out there, and yet like it seems

480
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: so automatic that I'm with you, it's like it's something

481
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Speaker 1: about it does seems a little off based to me.

482
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Speaker 1: Usually usually the way and one of the like beautiful

483
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Speaker 1: things about football is there's always a back and forth.

484
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: Like the offense innovates, so the defense innovates, so then

485
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: the other side comes back. I don't know if this

486
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: is something you can innovate, cause it's so it's so

487
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: up close and personal and before you don't even really

488
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: have an opportunity uh to find a way to kind

489
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: of combat it. So maybe it becomes that type of

490
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: situation I don't know, like because it does have the

491
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: sport has its roots and rugby, maybe maybe it's a

492
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: beautiful call back to its it. It doesn't bother me personally.

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Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me a little bit of like

494
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: Belichick always had a way of taking advantage of like

495
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Speaker 1: whatever the rules were, like don't break them, but bend

496
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Speaker 1: them as hard as possible to take advantage of what

497
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Speaker 1: the rules are. I think the Eagles have found as

498
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: have found something here, Like they have so many different

499
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Speaker 1: ways to win games, and that's that's why I think

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00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: this win, even though it was to one sided, was

501
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: typical for them, Like any given week, different parts of

502
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: their team step up and end up winning the game

503
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: because any part of their team has a chance to

504
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Speaker 1: be dominant and and that's what's that's what's special, that's

505
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: why they're going there. That That was my thought too.

506
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Speaker 1: It's like I'm not really into hearing about how easy

507
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Speaker 1: their path was, Like they didn't choose that they also

508
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: had an easier path because they were the best team

509
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Speaker 1: in the regular season, but automatically, like one matchup. I

510
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: know Landon Dickerson was hurt today, but their offensive line

511
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: versus Chris Jones and friends in Kansas City. But then

512
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Speaker 1: on the flip side, their past rushing their front seven

513
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: versus a very good Chiefs offensive line. There. You know,

514
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: it would have mattered who made it for the a

515
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Speaker 1: f C because they're so physical. I think the Chiefs

516
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: have some strengths and some pluses where you can line

517
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: up against the Eagles, but they have been so dominant

518
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: upfront that I wonder if it starts right there, are

519
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: you insinuating that the game is won in the trenches

520
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: without saying that, but that's what this game was. Before

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Speaker 1: we take a break, can we pull up um the

522
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Speaker 1: Empire State Building, which is the skyscraper in New York City.

523
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: People should know that the Giants were eliminated in embarrassing

524
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: fashion by their hated rival the Els a week ago.

525
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: And after the game, uh, the Empire State Building stends

526
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: out a sweet fly, Eagles fly. We're going to green

527
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: and white in honor of the Eagles NFC championship victory.

528
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: And I know after the Chiefs one they went red

529
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: and white and maybe this was some type of like

530
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: pre plan and then whoever was in the planning meeting

531
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: was like, didn't even realize there's levels to this. As

532
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Speaker 1: a New York sports fan, I think about as someone

533
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: that lived in Boston Greggy in two thousand one when

534
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: they threw Ray Bourke a parade when he won the

535
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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup championship for the Colorado Avalanche. That's how downtrodden

536
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: the Boston sports were at that time. New York sports

537
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: is in such a bad place now. Where is the swagger?

538
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Where is the just the confidence and the belief that

539
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: you are the sports down and nothing like that would

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00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: ever happen in your most famous building. That's a disgrace,

541
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Speaker 1: Empire State Building. It is a disgrace and it's it's

542
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: just to me, it was so baffling, like we're missing

543
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: a part of the story. And maybe there maybe we'll

544
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: find out later that there's something that triggered this from

545
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: a planning angle, But like the idea that first thought

546
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: was like someone is in someone from Philadelphia is essentially

547
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: uh violent, like a violent Kude top fashion taken over

548
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: the nerve center of the Empire State Building. Whether it

549
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: was that right, that would make some sense. This makes

550
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: happy are we doing here? From what people believe that

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: the confidence level of the sports area has been so

552
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: battered by the failure to win titles for the most

553
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: part in the last twenty years, that we've lost our

554
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: sense of identity. Are are just our belief in self

555
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: and our hatred of outsiders that pretend that they are us.

556
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Philadelphia v. New York Is can't happen, and it should

557
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: never happen again. It should have never happened in the

558
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: first place. And I'm not even a Giants fan, and

559
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: it got me mad. Just imagine how Giants van hold on.

560
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: But even even if you were, you're talking about the

561
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: fact that the city is psychologically broken over sports list

562
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: bit okay, but let's say even the reverse for true,

563
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and they were psychologically fine. Still, why you doing this?

564
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: I'd say it would have never happened. I lived to

565
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: be more keyed up and smarter. Ever never happened. Thought

566
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: to be a good idea on any level? Why are

567
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: we celebrating other other cities? Still live twelve blocks away

568
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: from there, and it was one of the joys of

569
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: living there. You always like looked up at the end

570
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: of the day you see the lights, Like I used

571
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: to follow that account no more because it's like I

572
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: don't live there anymore. I don't care what the lights are,

573
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: but the fact that they're not a New York sports fan, Greg,

574
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: of course you you are fine with it. I would

575
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: have been excited because I like the Eagles, because it

576
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: was such a total blood talking about But you would

577
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: have been we're not asking what you think. I would

578
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: look up at the green and white Empire State Building

579
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: and say, oh, that is unbelieving. I'm saying I was.

580
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: If I was living there and they owned themselves that badly,

581
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I would have been dancing in the streets because it

582
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: was like, it's just like a little dog. But we're

583
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: actually just asking how this ever came to be, whether

584
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: or not green with of course, it's a total disaster.

585
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: And I have a theory. I don't think they were

586
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna do the Chiefs colors. They weren't gonna do that.

587
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: It was not a plan that it was going to go, oh,

588
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: we'll do the winner's colors early and late. And then

589
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: they got so much pushed back they realized, Okay, here's

590
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: how we can save it. We'll pretend the panic that

591
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: that that hurt us. Then we're gonna panic pepic talk

592
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: about creating your own problems, though, I mean, there must

593
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: be more to this it's hilarious to me. It's hilarious

594
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: to me as a Patriots see that. See now, okay,

595
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well that's what I was, That's what

596
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I am. Okay, but that's how you said it initially.

597
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I would feel the same way if I were New

598
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: England Sports. Anyway, let's take a break, we'll take airs

599
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: a business and we'll get to the a f C

600
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: title game. A corker. We just took a a break

601
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the Empire State building the entire time.

602
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's funny. Um speaking of

603
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: Green and White and the Eagles. Yeah, listen, I'm a

604
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: man of principal integrity, bottomless integrity, So I can say

605
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: what So I can say, Greg openly chuckle. Yeah, So

606
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I can said bottomless integrity. That was intended to get

607
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: that reaction. No, that was supposed to be met with

608
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: I guess, stone faced nod. Yes, of course. So I

609
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: can say that I went down in the locks challenge.

610
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I like that Eagles team too. I needed something special

611
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: um from the Niners, and what I got was an

612
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: apocalypse for the San Francisco team. So my time with

613
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: the trophy is over. Oh my gosh, and what I

614
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: hold in my hand is the Locks title, which I

615
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: treated with respect and dignity. Unlike some other past champions.

616
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: It's about the trophy. It's about but not anymore now

617
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: it is yours Greg. And all I ask before I

618
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: hand over the Locks trophy that you have one fair

619
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: and square, is that you treat it with respect in dignity.

620
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: A fair request because it is an important part of

621
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: our program. I put it in a very high visibility

622
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: spot in my home. Are you getting that here? And

623
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: I just don't want this to be because you know,

624
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: with Greg, I put it into my trunk and I

625
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: forgot about it. Be proud with this trophy because you

626
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: did earn you guys can gonna get the shot where

627
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: handed over like it's on the plane in Dallas at Lovefield.

628
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Thank you the congratulations, Greg, walk it up. You earn it.

629
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Speaker 1: How How many titles is after you? Now? Three? Yeah?

630
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you say I don't respect it. Me

631
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: and this guy spent the whole pandemic together. It's three

632
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: out of four. You know. I do say luck is

633
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. But if I keep stacking

634
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: these up, I'm gonna have to start questioning that theory

635
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: where you're gonna put it in your theory, I guess

636
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: I'll have to put in my my shot. I am

637
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: moving soon, so I'll have to work on that in

638
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: the meantime. Maybe, well, should we leave it here now?

639
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: I'll just leave just beautiful next to me. And I

640
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: gotta say, you know, the lock history was instructive because

641
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Speaker 1: luck is very important here, always is, and I I

642
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: like the Eagles got some injury luck today that helped

643
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: that game. But part of it was my lock history,

644
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes was really the one who put me

645
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: over the top for those previous locks. And even though

646
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I picked the Bengals today, I thought they would win.

647
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: I thought it's it's just wrong and it doesn't feel

648
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: right to ever lock against Patrick Mahomes. Never do that, right.

649
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: If I'm Dan, I I've equipped that with a like

650
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: a hidden camera in his house. I wouldn't always check

651
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: on it, but I check on it occasionally. So I

652
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you're homes point was there in

653
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: the years stack wins picking the Chiefs in the playoffs

654
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: and that that clinched my previous locks. It was my

655
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: homes in the playoffs, finishing out those lock titles for me.

656
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: So it felt it felt wrong and foolhardy to go

657
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: against him, And I would have been wrong. That part

658
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: of the speech would have been even more effective if

659
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: you picked the Chiefs and locked them up today for

660
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: the title. But sometimes it's the locks you don't make.

661
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: You know what good call. And we thought, we all

662
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: thought Old Zeuser included I had the Cincinnati Bengals number

663
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: one of the power rankings that at Borrow head Field,

664
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Speaker 1: Joe it would be his time and these players. We

665
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: can talk about luck and all this stuff. What's momentum,

666
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: what's not moment What what is momentum? We could talk

667
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: about that, but motivation you cannot discount what players used

668
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: to get pumped up ahead of games. And you knew

669
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs did not like everyone going since Sinnati's way

670
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and talking about Burrow is the new King of the Hill.

671
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: When they had Mahomes two Arrow head Field twenty to

672
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: twenty times eight seconds remaining in regulation of the a

673
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: f C Championship game, Harrison Butker the biggest kick of

674
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: his Chief's life. Placement is down, Butcker's pick us up

675
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: the spinning kick high forty in the air, and that

676
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: has God, God, it's a field goal from forty five

677
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: yards up by Harrison. Butker, you can't doubt the Chiefs.

678
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: You can the Chiefs. You're gonna have to deal with

679
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as the A f C champions. How about that.

680
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Everyone's connected. I'll get the bank him, give him the

681
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: Bucka's Mitch Holt's with the call. Now I love Mitch.

682
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: He's off. He's off of this w D a f

683
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: because and I'll admit this freely. When the Patriots are

684
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: winning all these A f C titles and stuff, there

685
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: was a certain exhaustion that's set in for a lot

686
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: of fans. The Chiefs are a little harder to root against.

687
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: To me, like, I don't I didn't set even though

688
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: I wanted Cincinnati in this game. And Casey, they've earned

689
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: yet another trip to the Super Bowl here on the

690
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: back of that Harrison Budger field goal with three seconds

691
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: to play after Mahomes scrambled for a first down late

692
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: in regulation got pushed out of bounds one of the

693
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: costliest penalties in recent NFL history by poor Joseph Asai

694
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Speaker 1: Um yards through the up up the Riots uprights? Who who? Sorry?

695
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: Hook on? I said, Joseph as I yes, who's even

696
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: speaking right now? Whoo hook them? It's worth it in

697
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: this moment, How do you bring up Texas football in

698
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: this at this stage of the Sorry, this is a continue.

699
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: This is one of the lowest moments in UH Texas

700
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: alumni football and forever Kid was just trying to make

701
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: a play. Edit that out of the show. Twenty three

702
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: twenty to advance to the Super Bowl, Kansas City Mark

703
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: finally beats Cincinnati after three straight losses, including a three

704
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: point overtime loss in last year's title game. And before

705
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: I throw to you Mark, when Tracy Wilson of CBS

706
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: grabbed Patrick Mahomes on the field to ask him about

707
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: another big time win in a what's already a legendary

708
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: career just twenty seven years old, his buddy Travis Kelsey

709
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: came in with the interview bomb of the century. WHOA

710
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: it ain't borrow Head, it's Mahomes house. Now. That was

711
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: a major misstep by the Bengals fanatics and their mayor

712
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: and everyone else to suggest all of this business, because yeah,

713
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: if you're on another team in the a f C

714
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: West or a end based supporting another team in the

715
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: N f C West or the a f C. You

716
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: might have annoyances with Mahomes and the Chiefs and what

717
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: they are, but give me a break. We spent all

718
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: week long wondering if Mahomes physically would be up to

719
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: this game. You know, yes, he was practicing well and

720
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: moving around, but what happens when you get into this

721
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: thing with the temperature what it was, You know, your

722
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: body's chilling out like Mahomes. To me, this was one

723
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: of my favorite performances ever for him, and it was

724
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: filled with so many little moments where you know he

725
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: couldn't move the way you wanted him to. So even

726
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: before that big run that scrambled that really showed exactly

727
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: who Patrick Mahomes is. There were how many throws were

728
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: with guys around him in the pocket, a crumbling pocket.

729
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: He seemed to almost see through defenders and make these

730
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: beautiful little dump offs. He had one to Isaiah Pacheco

731
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: on that final drive. That final drive started with you know,

732
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: all his wide receivers are hurt in this game, but

733
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: neither teams really running the ball very well. He's not

734
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: able to lean on that part of it. Sky Moore

735
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: had the huge punt return that set this thing up.

736
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Then you have the Mahomes to the Pacheco thing I

737
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: was telling you for there's an incompletion. Mahomes then runs

738
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: for that first down, and that all these games like

739
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: this had that defining moment and that penalty, and I

740
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: thought Cincinnati went they dealt at least this penalty was

741
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: clean because they dealt with a lot in this game.

742
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: And Zach Taylor was about to have his head explode.

743
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: But this wasn't actually a good call in Joseph PSI

744
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: goes down in Ohio, Cincinnati playoff history and Laura in

745
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: all the wrong ways for what happened here, because there's

746
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: no way that Bucker is going to make that field goal.

747
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: I think without that penalty at the bottom of the

748
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: net from whatever it was, we're have been close. It

749
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: was very cold. Do you get a lot of attention,

750
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: but it was twenty feels like six. They said, Jay Feely,

751
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: your guy, I know you really love the j Feely

752
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: kicking analysis. Dan as respect the guy's hustle for getting

753
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: a paycheck for what what he does. He said that, yeah,

754
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: that he was only good from fifty most likely would

755
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: have been a stretch, and yeah, it would have been

756
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I think a six d ard attempt before that. I

757
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: don't even know if they would have attempted that play

758
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: at the they might add time for one more play

759
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: before that. Just the fact that it came on Mahomes running,

760
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: and I know was the penalty that moves. I mean

761
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: you you almost can't write this stuff. And as much

762
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: as the Bengals fans are upset with that penalty are

763
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: upset with how the rest of this game was officiated,

764
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at Patrick Mahomes as

765
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: a guy who lost Juju Smith, Schuster, lost McCole, Hardman,

766
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: lost Cedarius Tony, and ultimately there passing attack was a

767
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: little more effective over the course of the game. He

768
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: averaged six seven point six yards per attempt. He didn't

769
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: have an interception. I know he had that fumble where

770
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: he just lost the ball. Uh, But it was a

771
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: very evenly played game. I didn't feel like this chief

772
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: stole one. I felt like they just ended up winning

773
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: at the end by three, just like the Bengals ended

774
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: up winning close games by three against the Chiefs previously.

775
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: And this is why sports are great. They're unpredictable. Everything

776
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: did seem to be trending towards This is the Joe O.

777
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Burrow ascension. This is this is why everyone was confidently

778
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: saying that the Burrow head and he owns Kansas City.

779
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: And then it gets set up on a platter, uh

780
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: for them after the big touchdown to make it, they

781
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: forced a punt. A whole mess of things going on

782
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: on that Kansas City drive? Is that the drive with

783
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: all the shenanigans, with the play that wasn't the play

784
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: in eight place thirteen yards, We dodged a couple put

785
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: it this way, We gotched a couple of bullets of

786
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: officiating gone sideways where it looked like it was gonna

787
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: have a major impact on the game, and luckily it's sidestepped. Uh.

788
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: Those type of situations. It just wanted to talk about

789
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: two great teams playing and that's what we're getting. We're

790
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: getting to do for the most part here. But they

791
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: get two chances with the ball uh in a tie game.

792
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: One possession ends in an interception, and after the Cincinnati

793
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: defense steps up again and forces another punt greg Uh,

794
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: the Bengals get the ball back, they get I think

795
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: one first down, and then they go they punt again,

796
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: and and that surprised me, I gotta say, because especially

797
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: the last possession where it's Burrow balls and Burrows hands

798
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: with two minutes to play in a tie game, it

799
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: kind of just felt like that was the moment. And

800
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: when they got stopped there and all of a sudden

801
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: there was, you know, time on the clock for the

802
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs after the big punt return, huge playing the game

803
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: by sky More, it felt like this thing was gonna

804
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: go a certain way, and it did so that second drive,

805
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: and you're right, they got the ball in a tie

806
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: game twice in the fourth quarter and couldn't score. And

807
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: so you have to give the Chiefs defense a lot

808
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: of credit, give the Chiefs offensive line credit. Other people

809
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: other than Mahomes lifted up Mahomes, which hasn't always been

810
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: the case. But on that second drive day, and they

811
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: did have two first downs. They had the ten yard

812
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: play to Higgins, they were on their own goal line practically.

813
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Then they have the third and sixteen after the intentional grounding,

814
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: which felt like it might be a killer play, and

815
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Burrow gets protected. Really let's go to the ball, and

816
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: he did a great job letting go to the ball

817
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: quickly all game. After all those early sex he knew

818
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: he had to get rid of it. Great timing route.

819
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: They blow the coverage to Hearst. They get at that point,

820
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: we're all, I mean, you already said they're gonna go

821
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: down the field. That's over. At that point, I think

822
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans, I think Bengals fans, I think America is

823
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: thinking game over. They have a two yard play to

824
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: Hurst where it doesn't get out of bound, and that's

825
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: where England was like, not quite And that's the moment

826
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: where the game kind of changed. And we were talking

827
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: about it in the film room at the time. It

828
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: was in a very aggressive time out by Zach Taylor

829
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: with forty eight seconds left. I think a lot of

830
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: coaches and in the moment I thought, maybe don't take

831
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: that time out that you run the next play fifteen

832
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: seconds later. You kind of play it both ways. You

833
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: keep your two time outs, but you make it so

834
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: that there's no time left for the Chiefs if you

835
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: don't end up picking up first down. I can't kill

836
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor for that at all. Him going for fourth

837
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: down and like on the fourth and sixth earlier in

838
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: the game, him being aggressive throughout this run and trusting

839
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is why they made it this far, so

840
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: I can't kill him, but him trusting Joe Burrow and

841
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: trusting his offense and being very aggressive with that time

842
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: out is why the Chiefs got the ball back ultimately

843
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: when the Bengals couldn't get a first down. And also

844
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: Chris Jones having the sack of the game. I mean,

845
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: he's Chris Jones. Like it's a little there's so much

846
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: mechanics around the drives and the quarterbacks, but like Chris

847
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Jones absolutely was the star of this game. And the

848
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: back history of Jones, he had played in postseason games

849
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: zero sack. He's super frustrated last year after that loss,

850
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: so to come back and do what he did, And

851
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give Zach Hiller another bit of credit

852
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: because I mean this this was a tough environment. I

853
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: think they were sort of saying this was as loud

854
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: as as Romo had ever heard Arrowhead Stadium, that it

855
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: was on fire. The weather was a factor, and the

856
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: way that that game started, you just sort of could

857
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: you could wonder if the Chiefs were just going to

858
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: run away with it because Burrow, behind the line that

859
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: played so well a week ago was getting destroyed, and

860
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: it was a total train wreck. I thought the Bengals

861
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: did a good job down the stretch of adjusting to

862
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: some of that stuff and adding bulk in the backfield

863
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: and chipping Chris Jones and others to try to keep

864
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Burrows safe, who's so great with the quick throws. But

865
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, they had two chances. This isn't

866
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: the this isn't the Josh Allen Mahomes game where you

867
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: go into the off season wondering what we have Cincinnati,

868
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: and Burrow had one more opportunity because he was lucky.

869
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: He threw two picks in this game. That second pick,

870
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: which was tipped by Brian Cook and landed in the

871
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: hands of Josh Williams, was an incredible defensive played by

872
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Those guys are rookies. They got a secondary

873
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: essentially built up rookies and held their own in this thing.

874
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: And the Burrows both picks resulted in zero Chiefs Chiefs points.

875
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: Where Mahomes had that crazy fumble which was a very

876
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: on Mahomes like play that led to us Cincinnati touchdown.

877
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: That again made me think this is just going Cincinnati's

878
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: way in these little, tiny moments, and for Mahomes and

879
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: the crew to pull it out. It's just another reminder.

880
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: It's like they're hard to describe because they seem so

881
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: perfect when they are sim with Mahomes. But this was

882
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: a different way that Mahomes won. This was a resourceful win,

883
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: like a off when I don't think people think of

884
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs that way, and and of course they think

885
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: of him as mentally tough. They came back from ten

886
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: down in the in the Super Bowl to win, but

887
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: where so much went against them and the Bengals fans

888
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: will say, we didn't have our offensive line, and sure,

889
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: but going into this game, not only was Kelsey supposedly

890
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: a little banged up, although he looked fine, and we

891
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: know about Mahomes, but losing three receivers and Legarius need

892
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: your best cornerback all in the game and to be

893
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: able to overcome that. It really wasn't just Mahomes. It

894
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: was the Chiefs defense getting those stuff. It was the

895
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: offensive line doing great job. Their running game did nothing,

896
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: but they did a great job protecting Mahomes for the

897
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: most part. Like this is a toughness, a resourcefulness that

898
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: like championships are made of, and like we're giving all

899
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: this credit to Mahomes and we should have given it

900
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: to him anyways. But if the Chiefs give up a

901
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: field goal on that last drive, like, we're not giving

902
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: him all the same credit. So it is a team sport.

903
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: And and he got lifted up by his team more

904
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: than he has in the past. And we saw that

905
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: each of the last two weeks where of course was

906
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: went down the injury last week and then were able

907
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: to survive. And and I thought the Mahomes injury, I

908
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: thought it was fairly remarkable that for the first at

909
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: least half of the game, you wouldn't even really know

910
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: that he was injured because he was making all the

911
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: type of plays that you're used to him making. Um

912
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: as the game went on, especially on one scramble where

913
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: he threw off on a completion, he had to really

914
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: drive off the ankle, and from that point on he

915
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: was limping pretty badly. But this again what separates and

916
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: when you're talking about like Dac last week, what's the

917
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: difference between the great guys and the good guys, the

918
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: guys that win Super Bowls and the guys that just

919
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: make a lot of money and make it to the

920
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: playoffs every couple of years. He somehow in that in

921
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: that physical state is able to turn on the juice

922
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: and turn that corner before he gets pushed out of

923
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: bounds get the first down. And it's just I just

924
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: have so much respect for Mahomes the player, and uh,

925
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: I know I'm not alone, no, And I mean you

926
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: look at his two touchdown throws like that first one

927
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: to Travis Kelsey on fourth and one. Again, I love

928
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: the aggressive nature of what they did there. That touchdown

929
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Dart was insane, and then the mvs. One on the move.

930
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Mahomes like found a way too. I'm sure

931
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: he's in pain because he was hobbling around late in

932
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: that game too, And yet there's a couple of times

933
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: where he threw off his back foot and it looked

934
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: as good as ever. It's like he just in this moment.

935
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing about when you rooted for

936
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: teams that can't find a quarterback, whether even if they're good,

937
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: but they're not available half the time, it's like you've

938
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: got nothing. Mahomes is like available and good and he's

939
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: playing through something that would keep other people off the field.

940
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: I think he's he's the best I've seen come into

941
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think this game shows how he's

942
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: more than just scrambling around that that Kelsey touched on

943
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned, we were commented like, look, he had a

944
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: wide ope, it's fourth down. He had a wide open

945
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: player in the flat. That's where the blake All was

946
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: supposed to go to. But he holds onto it looking

947
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: for more and he gets it to Kelsey. And then

948
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the touchdown to MVS where he moved up in the

949
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: pocket was a dart. But just a few plays before

950
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: that on that drive, the one the one player talking

951
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: about Dan on the third down where he plans he's

952
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: rolling left and Romo did a good job pointing out

953
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: if you have a high angle sprain, like that's the

954
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: play where it's really going hurt you the most, and

955
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: it did. He's rolling left throwing right like most quarterbacks

956
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: can't make that play healthy. Like I'm a fan of

957
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: the Patriots, there's no way mac Jones can possibly make

958
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: that play healthy. He does it on that injury, playing

959
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: through the pain, completes it, continues that drive and then

960
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: ends up hitting MVS later. That's just next level. Yeah,

961
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: And going back to the play you mentioned, like that's

962
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: a the touchdown is fourth and one, correct, Like that is,

963
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: that's a fourth and one in the a f C

964
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: championship game and you have a guy open in the

965
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: flat for a three yard game. But and this goes

966
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: back to their you know, historic connection level. He sees Kelsey,

967
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: who's not necessarily open initially, but he sees them basically

968
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: one on one in the end zone, and he knows,

969
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: mahomes I put the ball in a certain spot a hundred,

970
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: Kelsey's gonna give me a touchdown. Those guys just operate

971
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: on a different level than almost anybody we've ever seen

972
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: as well. So a lot of did I mention Travis

973
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Kelsey talking smack after the game. We saw him do

974
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: it with Tracy Wilson. How about the mayor of Cincinnati.

975
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: Now we know we have some connections with mayors of Cincinnati.

976
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Our buddy Jason, who lived in Cincinnati moved to Tybee

977
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: and became the mayor of Tybee. What do they get clear,

978
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: let's the same guy. It's not Jason from Cincinnati who

979
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: became the mayor of Tybee. This is whoever the mayor

980
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati is. Maybe Grave Digger helped me out with that.

981
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: Um had some unkind things to say about the Chiefs

982
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: and and some uh sticking out the chest about his

983
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: his favorite team, the Cincinnati Bengals. Kelsey wasn't done uh

984
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: during his postgame Riser conversation. I've got some wise words

985
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: for that Cincinnati mayor. No, you'll roll and shut your mouth.

986
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he could absolutely be a professional wrestling. First

987
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: of all, he's holding the Lamar Hunt Trophy while he

988
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: does it. Then he pulls his hand out to his

989
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: ear to hear seventy four thousand Kansas City. The fans

990
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: lose their mind over his rock act again like the mayor,

991
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like in the week leading up

992
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: to this, it's I think that it contributed. It's so

993
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: clear that that was like a vital piece of motivation

994
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: inside the locker room. I agree. I think motivation that's

995
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: one thing you take away from today, Like these players

996
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: will look for anything, and I think it goes a

997
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: long way, especially when you have something like this. This

998
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: is kind of like a perfect storm. You were able

999
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: to draw in this motivation that, oh, this team is better,

1000
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: that everyone says this team is better than us. This

1001
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs, uh fourteen wins, They're at home and

1002
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: their quarterback is Patrick Mahomes. So they're able to summon

1003
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: all of that and blast it back. But Greg like,

1004
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: ultimately we say all this, I'm glad the mayor said it.

1005
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it makes it fun and it's

1006
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: just fun to dunk on him afterwards. Do I think

1007
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: that affected and the mayor would have done a victory

1008
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: lap for three weeks if if it would have won

1009
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: the other I think that's good. Do you think it

1010
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: it did? Obviously got it rose rose up enough like

1011
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: in the sea level to get into the chief's locker room.

1012
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: And it's the first thing Travis Kelsey meant because I'm

1013
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure they couldn't wait to talk about all that,

1014
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: and and I'm sure like they were talking about it

1015
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: amongst themselves. Do I think that that made any difference

1016
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: in all the like fifteen different players that helped decide

1017
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: this game, like including no, I don't think so. I

1018
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: think I mean we're saying from like the Bengals a

1019
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: year ago were this wonderful story, not at all like

1020
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: the big things. The whole thing around the Bengals like

1021
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: turned a little bit of a corner the last two

1022
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: or three weeks where it's like suddenly they were the

1023
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: favorites going into Arrowhead and Mahomes was being outshined by

1024
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who was who who? The mayor basically said

1025
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: they need to do a paternity tyste on Mahomes because

1026
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: if you think he's he's problems that he delivered that

1027
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: press conference that video with like absolutely zero uh like

1028
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 1: swag and attitude. If you're gonna do what you gotta

1029
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: do it, well, are you voting for that guy? I wouldn't.

1030
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know who the mayor was, so I asked

1031
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: somebody to help me figure it out. The mayor of Cincinnati,

1032
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: thank you. Unplug her immediately, thank you. Um anyway, other

1033
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: thoughts that know. What I was saying was despite all

1034
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: of this, and we can talk about the greatness of

1035
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: my homes and how this is really a well bounced team.

1036
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: It's not just about the quarterback. And we talked about

1037
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: the silent motivations that now came out right after the game.

1038
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: They still just squeezed by Cincinnati. And if you're a

1039
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: Bengals fan, it's like, man, these are the glory days,

1040
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: but these are two back to back. I I don't

1041
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: even remember what it's like anymore. It's been so long

1042
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: but when you when you become a good game, a

1043
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: good team, and you get close and then you get

1044
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: turned back for it happened twice in a row at

1045
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: this big stage. That's very difficult. That's tough. I feel

1046
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: for the Westlings, everyone of the Cincinnati Zoo um that

1047
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: that's that's tough. And Spice tracing out Spicy he want

1048
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: he did not want. I have the sympathy for Asai.

1049
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: You your heart broke watching him like break down in

1050
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: tears and not leave the bench. Spice Track, on the

1051
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: other hand, wanted him off the team. Um before the

1052
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: plane leaves. That I felt a little harsh if you

1053
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: leave him in Kansas City. He also was injured something,

1054
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: and he also had a great game and we also

1055
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: like I know that I think there was eight seconds

1056
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: left when the penalty occurred. Mahomes was gonna make one

1057
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: more play there in my heart, and I hope as

1058
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: I realizes that too, and maybe he gets some piece

1059
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: from that, because ultimately it wasn't a dirty play. It

1060
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: was a guy that was trying desperately to make a play,

1061
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a bad call. He was Mahomes was

1062
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: on both feet were on the white line, a mistake

1063
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: that can happen, and it will haunt the Cincinnati fans, right,

1064
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: I agree it. I think Mahomes probably would have found

1065
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: another way to win, potentially, but that's not how this works.

1066
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Joseph a size name is going to

1067
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: go down and infamy, whether he believe he doesn't deserve

1068
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: it as a person, but that's the way this stuff happens.

1069
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Ernest Spiner's fumble still talked about decades later. It shouldn't

1070
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: be lost. Would you like to talk about it? No,

1071
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: I feel like there's nothing more to say about it,

1072
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: but it colors the rest of your career. Do you

1073
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: want to hear from Mahomes talking about once again? The

1074
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: Manati in part let's hear yeah. I mean you got Burrowhead,

1075
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: he said, I mean they beat us last time. They

1076
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: were talking about we gotta play him. There's a lot

1077
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, the mayor came at me, man.

1078
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand he's the mayor Cincinnati, so you

1079
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: has to think about something. But I mean it's it's

1080
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta play the football game and

1081
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: then let your play do the talking. Not since the

1082
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: mayor of Amityville and jaws. Has there been such a

1083
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: guy out of a situation with more egg on his face?

1084
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Guys having a bad Sunday. I um, I don't think

1085
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: it should be lost that sky More set that thing up.

1086
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: And that was a really fascinating decision by Andy Reid

1087
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: to put sky More back there. So sky Moore, who

1088
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: they took in the second round and in fantasy heads

1089
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: like thought he was gonna be a huge asset to

1090
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: their team. Kind I ended up being a disappointment. Being

1091
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: a fourth or fifth receiver that couldn't get on the

1092
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: field much. Was a bit of a disaster as a

1093
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: punt returner throughout the course of the season, kept fumbling.

1094
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: They ended up benching him on punt returns. And could

1095
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: areus Tony turned into their punt returner? But could Aius

1096
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: Tony gets injured early in this game, you know port

1097
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Tony can't just can't stay on the field. Was out

1098
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: early in this game. Didn't look right, and so More

1099
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: is the backup punt returner gets put in that spot

1100
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: to make the big play and look, that was the

1101
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 1: drive was the punt return They to move the ball

1102
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: after that brought it to the Kansas City forty seven

1103
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you if that's a five

1104
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: yard return or something like that, I don't they don't

1105
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: win that game. There's not enough time. You know. We

1106
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: haven't like mentioned like what the Bengals did well in

1107
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: this game to to set it up, because it wasn't

1108
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: running the ball. That was a little stunned how poorly

1109
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: uh they ran the ball. Mixing was eight for nineteen.

1110
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Burrow had a couple of runs. He was their leading

1111
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: rusher by eight yards per You had the longest rush

1112
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: on the day, right and in the biggest two rushes

1113
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, by the way, where their last two

1114
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: plays of the game a six yard run in a

1115
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: five yard run. Those are the two longest runs, so

1116
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: no one could run the ball. But the touchdown that

1117
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins had like skying over Watson and the fourth

1118
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: down play where Burrow you know, launches it to Chase

1119
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: and Chase just has a filthy move to get down

1120
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: the field where he sort of fakes going inside, gets

1121
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: cooked turned around. Like those were just two plays that

1122
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: I think is what helped make us feel like, oh,

1123
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna come win this game. Like these

1124
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers are just too good. They're just such badasses

1125
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: to win like that that eventually will see more of

1126
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: those plays. But it just didn't happen in the fourth

1127
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: quarter like we saw the good Burrow is kind of

1128
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it wasn't like this was a

1129
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: bad game. It was a great performance by both of

1130
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: them until the end. But Joe Burrows not used to losing.

1131
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: And uh, he's been a winner his whole life. And yeah,

1132
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: he'll just like he'll have to live with Aaron Donald

1133
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: chasing him down on fourth down at midfield of the

1134
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. God, those two possessions in a tie game,

1135
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: it was all there for Cincinnati, and it once again

1136
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: they fall just short. And now we get and I think,

1137
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we have two weeks and we're gonna

1138
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: be going to Phoenix. Um, I'm gonna break down the game.

1139
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Let's break it down tonight. Yeah, we could get into

1140
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: it right now, but I'll just say this, Kansas City,

1141
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: like we said, tons of injuries, Mahomes clearly still not

1142
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: far from it. Uh, they're gonna need every day of

1143
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: this um leading up to the game, especially against that

1144
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Eagles defense that had I don't think I think they're

1145
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: up to around eighty plus sacks. Now overall in the season,

1146
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be great to one.

1147
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Seeds will be going at it on on February twelve, Hamona, Hammanamona.

1148
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs opened as one and a half point

1149
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: favorites right off the bat and immediately all the money

1150
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: went to the Eagles, and now the Eagle like and

1151
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles are now favored by two and a half point.

1152
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: So maybe it'll settle down there. But that's kind of

1153
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: like Chief spenggles where it went back and forth. But

1154
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: initially it almost seemed like people were waiting for the

1155
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs to be the favorites, and once they saw it,

1156
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 1: like a lot of people went Philly, doesn't really matter.

1157
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: Like either way, they're barely favored, is what I would say.

1158
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a yeah, it feels like

1159
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: an Eagles by two and a half in terms of

1160
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: the batting line. That's where it's gonna land right around there.

1161
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: That's what it is at least at this moment. So

1162
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: you've got your fingers interesting Kelsey Bowl. I mean, our

1163
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: old producer T d is one of the big winners

1164
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: today because he's I think producing their their podcast. So

1165
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: much about that that I almost suggest thing that ever

1166
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: happened to a podcast this exactly not since the Hardball

1167
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: the Hardball Bowl, we now get the Andy Reid verse

1168
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: his old team Bowl Eagles Chiefs. Let's hear from the

1169
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Big Red. Yeah. I had a great time there, so

1170
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: fourteen years one time, and um I'm happy for them.

1171
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy for the city. Um Uh, they're passionate. They

1172
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: love football. Matt ya wait till uh Kansas City and

1173
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: Philly clash. It's gonna be It's gonna be awesome. Man,

1174
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: all right, what a great what a great super Bowl

1175
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: would be? He's gonna be great super bowet ready for

1176
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: that answer. He'll handle it well. And again Mitch Holt

1177
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: is love him. He's not right, I'm not I love

1178
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. I loves saying he's gonna be the beginning

1179
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes like one of the greats. We're gonna get to

1180
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: watch him in another super Bowl a little bit of

1181
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: That's an important game in the Mahomes mystique. I mean,

1182
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: he's he's now gotten back to the super Bowl for

1183
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: the third time. The true greats. If you want to

1184
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: go get the goat Tom Brady, you're gonna have to

1185
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: start stacking titles. And he's just twenty seven years old.

1186
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: He's got time to do it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

1187
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: And if you're Joe Burrow, like you, I know that

1188
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: you've declared the Super Bowl when opening eternally for yourself.

1189
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: And I love that that he says that, But it

1190
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: gets harder and harder to get back. I mean, this

1191
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: is like, this is a difference between I'd like to

1192
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: say that football and basketball are completely different and to baseball,

1193
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: but in baseball you've got like ten days in the series.

1194
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: The basketball you've got like ten days to find out

1195
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: your team is sort of melting down. You can get

1196
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: swept and go to Game seven. Football it's like banging.

1197
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: It's suddenly over, like this morning bang. It's like one

1198
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: one little drive, one little play. It's like up thinking

1199
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: they were gonna be Super Bowl champions by ten plays

1200
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: into the second quarter. It was all gone when it

1201
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: all went gone to dust, brutal nature. And I would

1202
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: say nothing has any meaning. I don't think one player

1203
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: can dominate in football like you can in basketball. But

1204
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: these a f C teams with Burrow and my homes

1205
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: and we'll throw Josh Allen in there absolutely as well.

1206
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: They're all young players here like. And then the contracts

1207
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: are gonna get more complicated. Burrow might get a contract

1208
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: this offseason. Te Higgins will be coming up soon maybe

1209
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: for a contract. Like it will get more complicated. But

1210
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: these teams in the a f C, I know they're

1211
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: not all gonna always be three of the final four teams.

1212
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: But I think for the other thirteen teams in the

1213
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: a f C, it's a little scary to think about that.

1214
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: Borrow and Mahomes and Alan with these good organizations are

1215
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: gonna keep getting a crack at it for the next

1216
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: eight ten years on these teams is a little scary.

1217
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: I hear that. I hear that, all right. Coming up

1218
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: this week, Um, we're gonna have Baldy on the show

1219
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. He's gonna give us some XS and O's

1220
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: early kind of breakdown. And he's like Eagles expert too.

1221
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: He's been bathed in Philly Eagles football for decide plus.

1222
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: It's a great booking, it always is. We'll have our

1223
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: as per tradition, don't say the super Bowl episode next week, uh,

1224
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: and then a week after that we are in Phoenix

1225
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: to cover the whole thing. A lot of special guests

1226
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: lined up. We can't wait and before we say goodbye,

1227
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't not bring this up mostly but

1228
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: usually when it's a birthday that you give the person

1229
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: a birthday get is this is giving himself a gift

1230
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: because there's nothing that Drew Christiansen FT four video show

1231
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: producer would hate more than being specifically pointed out that

1232
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: is his thirty fifth birthday. And if you want, he

1233
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: just pulled up, he set and discussed really out of

1234
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: the shot on our video program. That's why you gotta

1235
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: check us out on YouTube for this kind of action.

1236
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: But now it puts Parker, you know front Yeah, well

1237
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: she wasn't front and center when we runned to hang

1238
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: out with her a week ago. No show at our

1239
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: live show anyway, Drew, Happy birthday, buddy, thirty five years

1240
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: young nine ft told me he's going ice skating to celebrate,

1241
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: so he's nimble of foot despite being a massive man.

1242
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: All right, thank you to everyone again. February twelve, two

1243
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: weeks from tonight, we will know the champion of the NFL.

1244
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: It's all come to this and it will be our

1245
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: tenth super Bowl as a podcast. Thank you for the journey,

1246
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: giving us a great life. Can't wait? What game is

1247
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: it to seventy two? Something like that? You do the

1248
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 1: man you're hold that, don't tell me if I'm wrong.

1249
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: He's a call.