WEBVTT - PowHERful Women with Tina Knowles- Lawson 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.640 What's your family. It's your girl to make a d mallory, 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.800 and it's your boy, my son and general, and we 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.880 are your host of street politicians, the place where the 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:18.440 streets and politics meet. Listen, my son is freezing cold. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.479 I was gone for some time. I came back to 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.160 New York City and it's literally twenty degrees. The weather 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.960 is going to kill us. I'm trying to figure out 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.720 why people would even say that there is no global warming, 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:40.080 because we are literally watching like something happened because it's 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.639 freezing outside. It's it's more it's mooie freel free all 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.519 the man. I went outside it was degrees, took my 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.880 kids school. I'm like, what, it's freezing freezing. It ain't 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.480 like the fake colds, the real cold outside. This is crazy, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.320 it is. It's really crazy. But it's like the way 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.720 that the weather goes up and down, and then on 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.240 the days when it's warm, you see people outside that 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.360 they that got all the way naked. And you're one 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.280 of those people that when the weather changes you have 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.320 your little jacket, no jacket this and that. Y'all people 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.240 better keep y'all winter coats on before y'all have all 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.080 kinds of sicknesses. Were tired to win a coach man, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.280 I'm tired of winning, big old coat. You're getting a call. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.640 You gotta unbutton it, you gotta zip it down. You'll 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.240 be on fire like it's too much. Man, I'm just 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.840 weather this heavy over break many degree just ain't this, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.520 ain't it? Yeah? I hope it doesn't stay like this 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.960 for a long time because it definitely makes you sick. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.520 So we're getting ready to go to Africa. Um, this 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:47.880 is like a huge, huge, huge, huge moment for until freedom, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:52.320 getting an opportunity to go to the Motherland, to the 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:58.600 continent there all things originated from Africa. Yeah, it's gonna 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.000 be pretty cool. I'm really like it it and I 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.880 think I have a level of excitement for each country 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.240 that we're visiting. Of course, I've always wanted to see 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.240 the Pyramids, and so many people think like, oh, you 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.280 must have gone to some part of Africa before, and 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.480 actually I haven't. The closest that we got was in 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.640 Palestine right there, you know, trying to go to the 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.440 West Bank, which is some somewhat I guess connected to Egypt. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.079 But never ever have we actually been to Africa directly. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.679 And I'm you know, I'm really looking forward to I 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:36.840 guess the restoration, the feeling of like connection to our people. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:44.160 Were meeting with so many different UM leaders, activists, filmmakers. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.239 It's gonna be a real, real powerful experience over on 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.080 on the and and on the soil for which our 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:58.880 ancestors from which our ancestors came. That is something powerful 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.760 that I think everybody should experience in their lifetime. Yeah, 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.040 I think so too. I've been I'm really looking forward 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.240 to it, just one of the learn the history and 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.480 just be you know. I hear that you can actually 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.760 feel the spirit and essence of the ancestors when you 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.880 on the motherland. So I'm really looking forward to just 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.720 taking their energy. Man, I've been dealing We've been dealing 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.560 with so much over the last year especially, so you know, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.919 I really want to take that time to just reconnect 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.079 and resent to myself. And we're we're better place than 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.040 to do it in Africa, So what better place to 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.520 hope the UM. I've heard too that it's like super 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.800 hot and that there's mosquito. So you know, me, I'm 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:51.560 always getting my form, my awe in my clothes, cover 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.600 with my skin, but I don't care I'm going to 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.720 be outside and with the people. And that's the only 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.680 thing about trips that I get really, really like bothered 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.600 by is when you go on the tripping, it's so difficult. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.640 People like, oh, it's not safe, it's this, And I 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.040 don't believe that, Like I want to go directly to 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:15.480 where the people live that are that really would benefit 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.760 and we would benefit from seeing one another, you know 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.520 what I'm saying, Like, that's where I want to be. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.000 And I understand that you have to be careful about 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.520 how you approach those communities because you have people there 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.120 who are like, don't come here with this ship, like 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.160 without bringing resources and support, And I get it, but 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.280 it also feels like when you go do all the 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.200 touristy things, you don't have an opportunity to connect with 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.000 like real everyday folks, And that for me is just 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.359 never good with any trip. And I think we do 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.239 a good job everywhere we go, no matter what state, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.120 no matter what city, we are always trying to find 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.640 where is the heart of the people and the and 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.679 the and the land. So you know, that's that's always 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:06.560 a tugger war because every single travel UH coordinator they like, 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.560 you know, you can't go here, you can't walk there, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.360 But we gotta try to figure out how to make 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.480 that happen. You definitely got to figure out how to 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.040 make that happen. Man, I'm looking forward to it, you know. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.279 I've been just going over to the itinerary and it 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.760 really looks it looks like it's gonna be something for 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:27.520 the books. Man. So in other news, the Oscars is 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.160 the talk of the town for a lot of different reasons. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.039 I hate the fact that like we um, you know, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:40.120 when something when one thing happens, we're unable to like 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.839 still focus on other things. Blue Ivy being in the 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:53.600 performance with with her mom, uh, Mega Stallion performing, Um, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.400 what's the guy's name that one quest love my God 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:06.200 love man and one um Will Packer being the producer. Uh, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.599 let's see what other beautiful moments. I mean, it's just 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.719 so many things that happen, um, that you know you 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.719 feel good about. It's like you want to see these 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:20.400 shows get better. They're not there yet. We know, from 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.640 the Oscars to the Grammys, all of these shows, they 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:28.440 are far far far behind in terms of representing our 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.479 culture completely and thoroughly. You know, so that we're not 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.359 about to say, oh, it's the best, but we see 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.839 that there are some changes that are happening, including having 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:44.479 Will Packer and his team produced the entire show. Those 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.400 things are good and we want to continue to see 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.560 more about it. But whenever there is one moment that 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.000 is the highlight, all those all the other moments, people 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.120 don't really focus on them, and everybody runs to like 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.680 the drama. They you know, we we what what was 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.159 the highlight? I didn't, I didn't know. I'm just saying 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.720 people are feed off of drama. I mean, obviously, the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:12.440 highlight of the Oscars was Will Smith slapping um Chris Rock. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.760 That's what happened. You seriously smacked Chris Rock. That is 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.360 what people are gonna talk about. But there were other 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.440 incredible things that happened, Yes there were, and you know, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.480 like unfortunately, I said all the time, unfortunately, the algorithm 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:34.480 is set up to always amplify and promote the negativity. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.920 And you know, and and that's just the world we 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.760 live in. People are driven to the drone, you know, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.040 They're driven to the conflict, you know, and and and 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.000 that's where we are. I just think for me, you know, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.920 shout out to everybody who at those awards, everybody who 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.240 won awards, A lot happened. You know, there's a lot 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.040 to unpack, and there are a lot of people and 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.280 have opinions. They're gonna be opinions that this one's wrong, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.040 this one's right, this and that. But I just say 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:18.000 all the time, you cannot predict how anyone will respond 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.640 to your disrespect. You can want to, we can always say, well, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.440 I don't think you should have reacted that way. I 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.200 don't think you should have this, or this wasn't the place. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.640 And you might be totally right, or you might everybody 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.079 has an opinion. But when you are the person who 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.360 is being disrespected, m hm, and you have to intake 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.560 the disrespect and you have to listen, you have to 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.280 internalize it, and you have to look at your kids 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.280 and look at your wife and look at your family, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.400 and you have to be this man. You have to 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:53.320 constantly deal with those things. You get to choose how 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:58.120 you respond to that disrespect. And I think that is 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.679 a classic example of what happened Snipe, you know, and 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.440 you know, I believe that when you look at we 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.360 have to ask ourselves about Will Smith, someone who's shown 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.920 such class throughout his career, throughout his life, he's dealt 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.000 He's laughed at things the average person would have been 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:21.680 blew up at. He's showed so much courage and so 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.480 much transparency about his own personal lives, and he's dealt 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.360 with what comes with that, you know, And I think 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.960 at some point you have to ask, when is enough right? 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.040 We have to look at okay, we we ask celebrities, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.719 we ask people who are in the media, who are 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:46.240 public figures, to just take things as if there's iron man, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.040 as if they're not perfect. And the people who are 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.679 judging will or feel like he did this and that wrong. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.280 They've done way more. They wouldn't have dealt withold half 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.319 the ship that he's He's there one third of the 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.839 ship that he's have to deal with throughout his career, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.480 throughout his life, you know. So to be able to 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:09.000 make that judgment is good to have that, you know, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.360 luxury to sit in your living room and I have 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.959 to deal with the ills that man has to deal 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.080 with every day and be able to judge it. But 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.120 once again, you know, people have their own boiling point, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.720 their own breaking point, their own line that you can't cross, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.239 and you have to make sure that you are intentional 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:37.199 about not being intentional about disrespecting you know. Niecy Nash 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.480 said last night that her feelings are still buffering. Right. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.680 She was doing Alive with her wife Um and she said, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.000 my feelings are still buffering, And I kind of feel 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:52.560 that way, like I am. I have so many different 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:59.120 emotions about the not so much even the moment. It's 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.640 more so than response to the moment. Right. Like, one 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:08.319 thing I'm really really um clear on is that we 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.439 do not have to live by a standard of what 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.400 white people say is right. That is something that I'm 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:21.680 absolutely resolved with. That And the idea that because white 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.880 people might feel or they may see and think certain things, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.920 that it means that we have to behave or act 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.760 a certain type of way, that for me, I throw 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:39.640 that out completely. I think that, Um, fights happen, people 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:44.080 have fights, ship happens. Puff said it last night. Things happen, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.600 like things happen, And we're not in a perfect bubble, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.880 none of us are. I'm not perfect, You're not perfect. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:12:00.240 The world isn't perfect, and things happen. And really I 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:05.920 do see where people are constantly sort of like pricking 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:12.240 at Will, just constantly pricking at him because he has 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:17.360 been so much of the model person that he tries 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:22.400 to be positive, stay about love, stay out the way. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.199 You know, he knows that he's a larger than life 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.760 figure and I think he got an opportunity he is 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.320 and especially now he is beginning. He is now sitting 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.719 in the front seat of watching how disrespectful people can 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.720 be two black women right this week, the Crown Act 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.400 has passed, and this is or last week the Crown 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:51.240 at past and this is legislation that specifically deals with 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.920 people leaving us alone about our hair. Let you work, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.680 go to school, do what you want about your hair. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.200 And having someone to even make a joke about something 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:08.559 so sensitive, I can see how it completely completely set 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.959 him off, and along with other things not just from 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.760 Chris Rock, but in general from folks and just in 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.960 society thinking that it's okay to just keep pricking at him. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.200 And I think he just finally was like, this is 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.080 one of those moments when I'm not gonna do the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.720 politically correct thing. And whether you agree with it or not, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.920 it was his choice and he did it and he 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.960 will have to accept whatever come, whatever goes along with that. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:41.480 But I still also would say that, um, yeah, like, 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.480 I'm just I'm just I'm not even willing to feed 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.400 into the perception that because somebody had a fight it's 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.760 the end of the world, or because somebody hits somebody 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.920 it's the end of the world. I'm just not willing 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.960 to feed into that, you know. And I think it's 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.720 it's like you said, it's a lot to really unpack it. Really, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:07.240 it really is. Because the emotional part of seeing Denzel 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.480 and Tyler Perry walk over to their brother, who they 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:18.000 know would not generally just do something like that unless 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.280 it has reached a boiling point of just no more. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.680 You know, that's just not something that you would ever 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.400 see Will Smith do, right, And to see them walk 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:33.000 over and be with him and talk to him after 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.800 they know that his wife was disrespected and her feelings 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.520 were hurt, that, to me, it was just a moment 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.720 that like we got to talk about that more center, 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.800 like what were they saying to each other and what 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.640 did they all feel as black men in that moment. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.440 Knowing that, and you think Will doesn't know he's gonna 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.320 be criticized, it's gonna be, this is gonna be that 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.360 this is a man who can think quick right, he 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.760 can think faster than the Yeah, he can think, he 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.160 can think really fast, faster than the average person, because 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.240 this man lives in the public eye and every single 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.480 day he's making decisions. And he made a decision that 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.720 last night that was that was literally it for him. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.520 It was literally it. And I think people, you know, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:27.840 I think people keep classifying as emotional and a break now, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.720 and I think for me, I don't. I don't really 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.080 agree with that, right, I think I think as men, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.520 there's a process that goes on in your mind, right, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.720 especially when you're thinking of when you when you, when 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.160 you think of when you somebody like Will Smith, who's 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.320 navigated throughout this industry, who you've watched constantly outthink people 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.040 who utilize strategies to capitalize or negative ship that people 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.080 try to do with him all the time. He's taking 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:02.400 the high road. I think at this point, right there 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.520 was a situation, you know, because I remember the ten 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.120 Oscar Awards, right when Jada was very adamant and vocal 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.800 about boycott and because the lack of representation for black people, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.840 she was mad that Will was a nominated for concussion. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.280 She said, he pretty much did everything most people agree. No, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.760 And I remember watching Chris Rock be the host of it, 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.800 and I remember him making jokes that didn't make me 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.360 feel good as a black person in that moment. I 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:38.560 remember him making jokes about Jada about Will diminishing what 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.040 they felt at that moment, and it was something that 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.400 was most people in Hollywood understood that there was no 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:50.560 black representation, and Chris Rock utilized his voice to not 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:55.240 highlight that reality, but to diminish the fact that these 0:16:55.320 --> 0:17:00.440 people and this man's wife had called for this boy 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.520 by basically saying that she didn't have the right to 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:08.000 call for boycott that because she wasn't nominated, that why 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.359 would we even listen to you? You weren't invited here. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.880 And that's a man's wife, that's the mother of his children. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.640 You know that they sat home and watched to see, Okay, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.440 this blood, this is a black man, he's a brother, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.879 somebody that we respect, and he's he's gonna do this regardless. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.119 So we're gonna be We're gonna sit back and see 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.679 how he utilizes this moment that we've garnered the energy 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.119 for because we've called out the oscars. We want to 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.879 see how he utilizes this moment to hold the oscars 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:41.640 accountable right and in hot and in in disregard for that, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.800 he chose to utilize that to diminish the two people 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.520 who were trying to fight. And I felt that was disrespectful. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.320 I felt it was wrong. I said it. Then I 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.560 didn't understand why he utilized his voice in that manner, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.359 and a lot of people and when he talked about 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.200 Jada and that man that I said all the time, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.760 people said, oh, well, he wouldn't. Will would have did this, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.960 if this and that, if if this was a white 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.880 person or this comedian, And I say to myself, Chris Rox, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.960 would Chris Rock would have made those jokes about Judie Foster. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.359 He would to set Meryl Street can't call for a boycott. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.000 He would have talked about white women that they see 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.640 at some level of value in Hollywood and say, who 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.359 are they to call for boycott? And if he would have, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.600 the white people in the room wouldn't have laughed at 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.399 They wouldn't have thought it was amusing. They wouldn't they 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.000 wouldn't got hysterically laughed about the way that he talked 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.679 about that man's wife. And and I say that to 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.919 say that, and so when I look at this situation, 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.480 there's a build up, there's a man having to sit 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.399 in his house. And every time I watched Jada was 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.720 doing walking through TMC was say, hey, how do you 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.960 feel about what Chris Rock had to say about you? 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.120 And I have to keep how do you feel about 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.480 what Chris Rock said? Whoa, this is the biggest stage 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.320 in the world on that night, he utilized that time 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.080 to diminish that woman, and she had to constantly deal 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.159 with and that man had to constantly look at his 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.480 wife's face feeling humiliated listening to you know, her being 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.359 disrespected on these social media, watching their kids angry at 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.679 the same situation. And he ate that, he ate that 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.199 he didn't do nothing. He ate that they dealt with it. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.840 They moved on. Now we at Oscar's Awards, and you 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.600 choose again, as you sit up there as the host 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.439 to utilize your voice in your platform to talk something 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:34.879 about my wife. At what point, as a man, is 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.840 it okay for you to say this ain't okay? Maybe 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.080 you saying that you wouldn't have smacked him man, maybe, 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.960 but what the way that and I tell people all 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.520 the time, the way that people respond to your disrespect. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:54.080 It's not your choice, right if somebody body have been like, oh, 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.159 you should have pulled him to the side. No, the 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.560 disrespect happened publicly. I'm a firm believer that when disrespect 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.919 happens publicly, the consequences or the apologies needs to be 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.320 public as well. People want to disrespect you publicly and 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.639 quietly in the back to you. You know, it's just 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.800 a joke. We're cool and that. No, but the world 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.359 just so when you talk to me crazy and tomorrow 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.080 I'm gonna have to hear how once again me Will 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.680 is the sucker. He's a pomp, this and that. People 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.800 saying this. It's with so much of that any man 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.919 can deal. And I think at that point he was 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.880 resolved and with whatever was gonna come with that. Even 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.760 when you look at his apology, apologize to everybody else 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.600 with that man, because that man disrespected him, that man 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.920 purposely disrespect I think it's that's why I said, if 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.600 it's buffering from me right like, I love that Nash 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.840 used that because I personally have been in fights like 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.440 and I'm not talking about twenty years ago. I'm talking 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.159 about ship that has happened to me recently that I 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.159 have in the hotel we just was talking about that 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.800 on the show about what was a last year when 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.560 we talked about the white man that put his hand 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.040 in my face and and his wife and I getting 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:10.640 into a physical altercation. That should happens like they were 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.560 arrested because everybody in the hotel saw what took place. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.720 But people do get into fights. So when I when 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:22.080 I to your point being making sure that you're not 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.440 coming from a place of a high road road judgment 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.240 where you look at somebody else's situation and all of 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.600 a sudden, because it's Will Smith, you don't see the 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:36.240 human side of this man, right that I try not 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.919 to do. So that's one one thing. Then you know 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:44.840 I'm I'm probably biased anyway because Jada. I love Jada 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.960 will all my heart. That is my sister, and to 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.280 see her be disrespected like that in that moment, I 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.919 probably would have wanted to fight for her as well. 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.080 And I cannot sit here and tell you I would 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.919 never sit here and say that I don't appreciate the 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.760 fact that Will Smith said fuck it, whatever has to 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.600 go along with it. You're not gonna just keep playing 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:11.439 with Jada, period. So that's a full stop for me 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:17.280 on this side of the conversation. I still when you 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.000 said just now that people keep talking about it being 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:26.080 emotional and um, a breakdown, I don't know if I'm 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.919 gonna say it's a breakdown. I don't think that it 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:34.720 was a breakdown at all. But it's definitely an emotional response, absolutely, 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.800 because when first of all, when you hit someone, that 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.280 is called lashing out, So that means that your emotions 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.119 are involved with the decision that you're making at that point, 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:50.520 because feeling disrespected all of that causes emotions to come 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.840 to the forefront. But I think about just two weeks ago, 0:22:55.520 --> 0:23:00.320 when Gayle King asked him about infidelity in his marriage age. 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:07.560 I literally saw Will's face get very very stern as 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.280 he responded to her in a way to let her 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:15.200 know y'all at I they have said over and over again. 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.800 I'm listening to teslaent Um straight Shot No Chase, our 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.159 home girl who is also in a black effect. She 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.840 was on live last night and I was listening to her, 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.960 and she said something that is so true. These people 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:31.720 have already told y'all over and over and over again 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.200 about how they conduct their relationship, they marriage. They don't 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:42.800 said it. I mean, I can't imagine what you call infidelities. Infidelities. 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.760 They have said it over and over and over again. 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.879 So when people start still, you know, saying or trying 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:53.320 to shame him or her because of it, I know 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.280 that you could tell from the way he responded to 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.320 Gail King. It's like to say, for the ninetieth time 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.320 or the nine thousand times, it's not infidelity because every 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.600 everything that has gone on in our marriage, we have 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.320 had a conversation about it and made decisions about what's 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.240 best for us at that time. So I think that 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:18.919 it is definitely a reaction that is not just about Chris, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.200 but it is a long it's it's it's there are 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.800 too many chris Is that exists in his life. But 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:27.159 I don't think you want to tell you what I 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.719 why I don't agree with that because had they been 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.520 talking about entanglement, I would say that, right, had he 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.159 want to then say, oh, well, you know, maybe his 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.960 entanglement number. But see, but that's not even But that's 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.560 not the point I'm making. I'm talking about what creates 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:47.120 a bawling point, right, not just entanglement. It's not just that, 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.280 like you said, it's the hair. It's also people who 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.080 have attacked Willow over time, like will has sat by 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:59.840 quietly while people have picked at his his entire family. 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.760 That's something that he has dealt with, and he's handled 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:07.600 it very professionally. Like this is why it's probably so 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:12.040 much of a shock. Like so, for instance, if Puff 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.920