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Speaker 1: that's what we talk about all the time. We expect

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Speaker 1: to be a top ten group every year.

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Speaker 2: And that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, that's it, that's that's the standard.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're expected to.

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Speaker 3: Be standing out on special teams so far, any other

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Speaker 3: rookies that have been letting me down or you've noticed them

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Speaker 3: out there on the field so far.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Josh Procter is the guys that

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Speaker 1: you know. For an undrafted guy, he's done really, really well.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a very very smart player that can

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Speaker 1: play multiple positions. You know, he's a he's done a

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Speaker 1: really good job. I really like what he's done, not

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Speaker 1: only in the drill work, but even the team setting.

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Speaker 1: He's done really really well.

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Speaker 2: Awesome