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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites of the Podcast, presented by Beth

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Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna review the faves five picks we put into

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Speaker 1: the contest. We're going to dissect why we left games out,

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chad, Well, look I'm looking.

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Speaker 1: Here's the upside. We avoided our worst instincts. We did

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Speaker 1: not include the Panthers as short favorites, or the Titans

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Speaker 1: as big home dogs, or even the Giants at as

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Speaker 1: sixteen and a half point underdogs. We nearly included the

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Speaker 1: Jags at three and a half, but we avoided that. However, However,

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Speaker 1: every team we did choose today in what is an

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Speaker 1: zero to four start, basically self destructed at the exact

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Speaker 1: same time, except for the Cleveland Browns, only because they

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Speaker 1: were in the early window. In a season of bad

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Speaker 1: luck and bad calls, this one was truly special. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to recap just a couple of them, because like

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Speaker 1: to do it in each individual game almost feels like

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Speaker 1: we're not doing it justice because you need to absorb

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Speaker 1: them all to truly understand how epic all this was.

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Speaker 1: The Lions finally cut it to ten with twelve minutes

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Speaker 1: left in the third and the fourth. They go for

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Speaker 1: an on sidekick. The Steelers are driving down twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: inside the red zone in the third quarter, Najee Harris

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Speaker 1: just drops a lateral. Eagles go on to score take

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Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead. Jonathan Taylor of the Colts, we

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Speaker 1: have the Colts plus four and a half, just drops

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Speaker 1: the ball a foot before he crosses the goal line

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Speaker 1: to put the Colts up twenty to seven. They don't

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Speaker 1: score again the rest of the game. Jamis throws multiple

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Speaker 1: picks into the Chiefs end zone. If you haven't figured

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Speaker 1: it out already, we had the Browns plus four and

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Speaker 1: a half, the Steelers five and a half, the Colts

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Speaker 1: four and a half, and Detroit two and a half.

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Speaker 1: In the day games. Thank god, we have Green Bay tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank god. Like my wife and I have a list

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Speaker 1: of shows we want to watch right now, Bad Sisters,

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Speaker 1: Lion ass say nothing, no good deed. Thank God, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna watch this game tonight. We're gonna dig into everything.

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Speaker 1: Plus the discussion on the Jags, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: probably should have covered if not for a meltdown type

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Speaker 1: call by Jeff Albrich of the Jets, which was truly idiotic.

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Speaker 1: painful process simon Kansas City and Cleveland. So we had

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Speaker 1: the Browns four and a half. We nearly kicked this

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Speaker 1: one out for Jacksonville this morning. It really came down

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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh for a final two. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, there's so much to say.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get your take before we dig in,

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Speaker 1: because I've unloaded so much epically bad beats in the

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Speaker 2: I got enough that says this as your baby. I

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Speaker 2: told you, can we just avoid this game and you

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Speaker 2: push it all week. You put it in there, you

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Speaker 2: got to live with it. It was you knew right

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Speaker 2: away too. It was a bad bet. Where that guy

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Speaker 2: on that first punt fumbling that ball. It's just I

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Speaker 2: We can't get to read them either of those teams.

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Speaker 2: We knew the Chiefs were eventually going to be the

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Speaker 2: So yeah, terrible game, terrible spot the Chiefs, long overdue

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Speaker 1: Well, look, with both Pittsburgh and Kansas City, we feel

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Speaker 1: the trance in the case of Kansas City, baiting them

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Speaker 1: I never believed in the Jags in that game. Never

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Speaker 2: Well it makes you feel better. You have a terrible

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Speaker 2: because that was the flukiest dump coaching Jets moment, the

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Speaker 1: So we got to talk about that for a second.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you. Even though

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Speaker 1: If I'm a Jags better who had really gone all

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Speaker 2: That's me. I bet heavy on it. Those one of

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Speaker 2: the day, and uh yeah, it sucks. But it's like

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Speaker 2: we talk all the time, it's we got a whale

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Speaker 2: last week against the Jets. This week, by there being

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Speaker 2: So yeah, just that's that's that's betting, baby, Like I

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Philadelphia Steelers were plus five and a half.

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Speaker 1: This was the other game we nearly kicked out for Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: say Jayden still looks bad if he doesn't get his

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Speaker 1: that was really frustrating.

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Speaker 2: I just do not get this whole Chad moment. Is

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Speaker 2: nick right? Thing you got going on with Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre world. He's bad if he doesn't get his

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Speaker 2: Hurts was trolling the media repeating back to them what

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Speaker 2: him to people about that. He's trolling you, Chad. You

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Speaker 2: don't think he makes the read outside the first read

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Speaker 1: Like it's always aging. It didn't seem like it today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he had a great game, but everyone saw

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Speaker 2: that coming. The book sawid We just talked about that

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Speaker 2: line stunk another game I wish we had avoided. We didn't,

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Speaker 2: but it was another game. Not that I put it

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Speaker 2: And everything that could have gone wrong for Pittsburgh basically

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Speaker 1: You know, I love the Eagles. I've been all over

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but after that first half,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say, like never totally

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Speaker 2: We've already talked about this year. He's been probably the

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Speaker 2: Golf didn't have his A game, Dan Cavin have his

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Speaker 2: today too, where they had to call up Josh Adams

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Speaker 2: you know when you see those moments, We're just like,

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Speaker 2: was head and going into it that if Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: And you know, we just we haven't seen something like

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Speaker 1: Betting wise, the Lions just scored a touchdown on a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just about again, how special this season is for

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Speaker 2: It was his running back, Josh Allenstone to this guy

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Speaker 2: And this guy's making these insane plays, a guy that's

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Speaker 2: like their third back. It's it is bizarre world. Like

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Speaker 2: this guy has one hundred and fourteen yard receiving today

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Speaker 2: and every time he touched it was a big play

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Speaker 2: we've had some batteries today, We've had some bad luck,

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Speaker 1: And it's not just me. Don't act like you're parenting

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Speaker 2: What games were you What games were you warning me off?

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Speaker 2: All week? The only the games you were warning me off?

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Speaker 1: Listen, At any point today, you could have said, let's

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Speaker 2: It was never brought up. I mean again, I know

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Speaker 1: I putting in huh. The only game we would have

431
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: considered putting in the Jaguars. Yeah, so it wouldn't have mattered.

432
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one way to look at it. It's

433
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: also there's different there's different ways of getting blown out.

434
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean we you can do the scooch

435
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: thing the right sides of the winning side. It doesn't

436
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: even matter if you don't cover by three or you

437
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: get blown up by thirty. But no, I'm just saying

438
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: it was a tough week where it's like, you knew

439
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: some of those lines stunk, and we put them anyway.

440
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: That's what I meant by you touching the stove, you

441
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: just you couldn't help yourself. Like that Pittsburgh one. We knew,

442
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: we knew, and I hate that it went the way

443
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: it did it because we knew what. We knew what

444
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: we were always on the other side of that one.

445
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: Usually we knew with both of them. It's not a

446
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: it's not a me thing, it's a we thing.

447
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: We both knew.

448
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: You didn't back brother.

449
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean, listen to I Hop on I Hop on

450
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: social media. I can hear how many people call me

451
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: an idiot for going against the Eagles.

452
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: Don't worry, Yeah, on Thursday, go back and listen to

453
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: the tape. You you you were like trying to warm

454
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: me off it and then you fully came around to

455
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers at the end of your at the end

456
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: of your analysis, because I was going to walk away

457
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: from it because you were so comfort about the Eagles,

458
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: because the wise guys were coming in on the Eagles

459
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: and you were hearing so much about it. But in

460
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: the end you're like, we got to go with the Steelers.

461
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Obviously Tampa the number didn't matter. I

462
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: wish we got Tampa in there. It's just a typical

463
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: thing of like we have three. I bet it heavy

464
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: at three, but for some reason our contest we have

465
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: to put in two and a half. And we've talked

466
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: about two and a half has become one of the

467
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: more important key numbers. So that's that was the whole

468
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: thing scared me off on it. But yeah, obviously, looking back,

469
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Tampa beat the shit out of the Chargers,

470
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: exactly what we said it was going to happen there.

471
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: The better team, like Evans dominated that matchup, had the

472
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: game of his life. Lady McConkie came back early, didn't

473
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: look himself. They just they were just stagging offensively. And

474
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, whatever happened that Herbert ankle injury, obviously I

475
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: didn't know much about it 't know if you heard

476
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: about it, but it's like, clearly whatever happened there. I

477
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: think he had two sacks and the guy landed right

478
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: on it, and from that they didn't score a single point,

479
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: like they had seventy points at that point, and then

480
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: the offense kind of just fell off from there on.

481
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: So definitely something to keep in mind going forward. This

482
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 2: Chargers team like they're major injuries and major positions right

483
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: now heading into late December.

484
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: I am looking at our list right now. The games

485
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: that we had talked about for Thursday. We talked about

486
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: Miami that wouldn't have worked out, the Jags that would

487
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: have worked out, we talked about we were split on

488
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: there was a split. You said there was a split

489
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: between Tampa Bay and the Chargers. Seattle was one that

490
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: came up that the wise guys like, but we're sticking

491
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: with Green Bay Detroit. I don't know that we would

492
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: have won any games no matter which games we show,

493
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: except for Tampa Bay. No, it's fair, Simon, we got

494
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: to talk about we have Green Bay to Night minus

495
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: two and a half. Please please, Jordan Love like you've

496
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: never played plaid, like you've never played before. We need you,

497
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: We need you.

498
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: Look at us Chason Winner on Sunday Night with a

499
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: favorite Jesus.

500
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: That's the kind of year it's been, Bro. We got

501
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: to get to We got to find some Week sixteen

502
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: games to turn us around. This week, you're going to

503
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: start with Week sixteen games. I don't want to bias

504
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: us in any way before we get to it. Simon,

505
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Speaker 1: can you name the best ticking app in the United States?

506
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507
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508
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Speaker 2: All right?

530
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Smarty? What are we looking at for week sixteen?

531
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Speaker 1: You tell me, don't be so upset, Chad. I'm not upset.

532
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: You sound like you're upset. We both wore oh and

533
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: four right now. I'm just trying to let you know

534
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: this week, if there's a game I keep saying to you,

535
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: can we please take this back? Can we just maybe

536
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: think about taking it out? Here we go Thursday night,

537
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Broncos Chargers, the Open up Chargers minus three. We just

538
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: talked about Herbert having an injury. Yes, don't we just

539
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: take the three right now with Denver?

540
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Yes.

541
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of games like that that pop

542
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: up here. Matt on a Saturday Chiefs are plus two

543
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: and a half right now against the Texans.

544
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: By the way, it's moved down from three and a

545
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: half when we started the show.

546
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: So that's the book saying it's Carson Wentz in their mind. Yep,

547
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: But we just talked about the x Rays came back negative.

548
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: I'll grab it two and a half right now. It's

549
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: another position we could take out we want to. But

550
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: even if it's Carson Wentz. Houston, Man, I don't know

551
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: how much of that Miami game you watched.

552
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: They watched a lot of it.

553
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: I didn't, but like I just saw different parts pop

554
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: up and I was just like, man, they're luckily two

555
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: is throwing three picks in the game or whatever it

556
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: was four picks. I know he had a lot. There's

557
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: just something's off about them, and everyone's kind of had

558
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: that same sense. And like you just said, people, any

559
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: professional that came in on Miami and like it's they

560
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: had good reason to. This Houston team is really questionable

561
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: right now. So yeah, that one jumps out to me.

562
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Two and a half Pittsburgh six and a half right

563
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: now against this Ravens team on Saturday.

564
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: I you know what I saw that.

565
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: Are Suckers again.

566
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I like, I didn't want to say anything.

567
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: It's a cross, it's it's above six. Though, we have

568
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: to take it a six because we have to.

569
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: We have to because I knew we were going to

570
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: be having a hard conversation about how much I like

571
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers.

572
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Well, we can't put them in the contest anyway. Unfortunately

573
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: it's Saturday game.

574
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Thank fucking God.

575
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: Really I would love to put this one. I don't know.

576
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: This goes like another really nice Tomlin spot. Again, it

577
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: burned us today, but historically Tomlin, especially when it's above six,

578
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: as a dog, he's a great bet, not only on

579
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: the money line but on the spread.

580
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh, Matt Mitchell is saying we might be good with

581
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: standal with Saturday games because they aren't standalone, so we

582
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: may be able to consider this.

583
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: That'd be cool. Another line that just jumped out from

584
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: the Sunday slate that just seemed really fishy. Jets or

585
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: plus three at home against the Rams. It's another week

586
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: where it's like it's gonna move down and I much

587
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: rather be on the Rams at minus two and a

588
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: half than I wouldn't be on the Jets. But like

589
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: that right now is she's like a professional side, Like

590
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: I can easily see the pros coming on the Jets

591
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: a plus three.

592
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Well, there's no reason they wouldn't come in on the Jets, right,

593
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: They've been on the Jets every true. Yeah, it's true,

594
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: including including by the way, this week, so they were

595
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: the favorites, like it got down to three and went

596
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: back to three and a half. So I can't see

597
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: why the why the fit, why the wise guys wouldn't

598
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: be on the Jets.

599
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just interesting though that the book opened that at three,

600
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: Like you just said, though, that's I guess that that's

601
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: what them knowing they're going to get action on the

602
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: other side. Uh, what do we do Teddibio against our

603
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: colts after today who just burned us so horribly because

604
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: they're plus four right now, Tennessee's plus four of the.

605
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Colts, I'm seeing four and a half, and I feel

606
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: like it's so hard to bet this Tennessee. It's fair

607
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Like I did bet them today at plus six and

608
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: felt decent about it. And then their defense they're.

609
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Up fourteen seven. You're feeling pretty.

610
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Good, feeling pretty good and like their defense could not

611
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: stop anybody. And Will Levis then just self destructed, like

612
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: every other quarterback who's from that draft class at this point,

613
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: just self destructing. So like we couldn't even get Bryce

614
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Young to continue to be like Bryce Young today. That

615
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: one feels iffy to me. But but but if you're

616
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna say we have to get it in, I'll get

617
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: it in.

618
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: I might, I might. You never know. Uh, interesting number.

619
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: This Minnesota team they're minus two right now against the Seahawks.

620
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: That one just sticks out to me because they're playing

621
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: a divisional game Monday and then our short week they're

622
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: traveling to the Seahawks. So it's like I would want

623
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: to bet it, but if the Seahawks lose tonight, I

624
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: might be able to get a three. So I'm not

625
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: in a total rush, but that's a side that's like

626
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: I could see us end up being on the Seahawks

627
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: in that spot, just because it is a good, good

628
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: number in a good position against the Minnesota team. Like

629
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: we just said, in our short week late December, that's

630
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: that's pretty tough for a lot of teams. That one

631
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: just jumped out to me. I mean, there's no way

632
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: I get you back to Jags again, can I oh?

633
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I circle that in red Jags plus one and a

634
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: half against the How are we not?

635
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm worried that's gonna flip though, So that's gonna be

636
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: one that fifth flips. Are we gonna avoid it because

637
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: we've we've had terrible luck with lines that have flip

638
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: this year from plus the them being favorites.

639
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but like as a better

640
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: looking at it right now, I want to play the

641
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: Jacks like just especially if.

642
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: You have a book that is one and a half,

643
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: that's that's an nice throw it in a teaser like like.

644
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: Like Max Crosby has done for the year, done for

645
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: the year. Like quarterback situation is not very good this

646
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: team at some point they're not gonna officially tanked, but

647
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: they're on track for Cam Wore, Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders,

648
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, they can make a significant upgrade to their team.

649
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: So I like the Jags as underdogs here a lot.

650
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this last one when word, I'm overthinking it, but

651
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: it just feels like it's too easy. Once again, a

652
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: line that feels too big. Commanders are plus four against

653
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: this Eagles team, where this number feels like it should

654
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: be plus three. We're getting a nice bump here because

655
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: Washington had a little meltdown, right, they're up seventeen to nothing.

656
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 2: Saints come all the way back. On the flip side,

657
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: this Eagles team, who has doubted today just rolled. You know,

658
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: public and professional betters alike that bet the Pittsburgh team.

659
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: I want to bet this, but again I feels like

660
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: another number that can I be patient here? Won't this

661
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: go up rather than come down?

662
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: Well, it's already down to three and a half.

663
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm sor right, Well they just told you then, so

664
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Speaker 2: I guess I'll grab the four or not?

665
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: Why Ken, Yeah, if you can get a four, you

666
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: should definitely get it. I see one four out there.

667
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: The rest I'm seeing are three and a half's.

668
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Because again done this game is the hard time I

669
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: was getting about the hurts. I was really just busting

670
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: their balls where like this, this kind of feels like

671
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: a hurt spot that he'll he'll have a shit game

672
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: that you're talking about, like a letdown game after that

673
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: performance he just had. Because especially I love hurt. It's

674
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: twenty five of thirty two. That's not who hurts. His

675
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 2: hurts is twenty of thirty two, Like he got five

676
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: today that were you know, not usually on his record books,

677
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: so a nice letdown spot. And then on the flip

678
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: side Commanders. I just honestly like the way the their

679
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: offense can match up with this Eagles team. You know,

680
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: McLaurin obviously had an incredible today today with Jayden Daniels,

681
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: but that that read option Jane Daniels and Robinson in

682
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: the backfield, it is pretty deadly like when he pulls

683
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: the ball and runs with it, especially when he's obviously

684
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: get smarting on not taking the contact. It's a really

685
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: great weapon to use. And we talked early in the

686
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: year when the Eagles play Maid that Ravens team, the

687
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: throws were there because the defense was sucking up. Lamar

688
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: just had an off night. He was missing the throw.

689
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: So I think if Daniels can kind of hit those throws,

690
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: the blueprints counting already out there, I can tact this

691
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: Fangio defense. So yeah to me, Chad, I grabbed that

692
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: plus four. Now, if you're like you just said, if

693
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: it's down a plus three and a lot of books,

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: I'll rush now track at the plus four before it moves.

695
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: He is so smooth. Jayden Daniels. I watch a lot

696
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: of that Saints game today, and he makes those run

697
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: options look like he's moving in slow motion and yet

698
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: still gliding by everybody and then casually walking out of bounds.

699
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: The way he was able to avoid getting hit today

700
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: was great. Any other on your radar, because there's one

701
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: more on my radar.

702
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's a couple more like we can

703
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: talk about, but I'm not. I won't go too crazy.

704
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: What do you got to trump out to you?

705
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: Well, the Miami Dolphins at one and a half again

706
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: San Francisco, very short home favorite, two teams that are

707
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: essentially out the playoffs. But like Chua had a terrible

708
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: game today, like really made some bad mistakes, really bad throws.

709
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know anything about this this Niners team

710
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: right now. Obviously McCaffrey's out, Deebo seems washed, there's no

711
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: iu perty was making bad throws. Like I would take

712
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Miami at home because Miami at home against bad teams

713
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: is what you do. And the Niners right now are

714
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: not a good team. And I feel like I'm getting

715
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: about half point to a point of value on Miami

716
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: because people have just seen them lose as well. But

717
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I think two is playing at a much better level

718
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know the status of Waddle right now,

719
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: but their short to intermediate game can be really good.

720
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: And they only lost today because Toutle made Tua made

721
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: a two or three really bad decisions because they were

722
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: they were in that game against the Texans the whole time.

723
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly think, like I'm gonna go back and

724
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: watch that one because I was I wasn't able to

725
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: watch a lot of it, but just looking at the

726
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: box score, just like another day of Miami was probably

727
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: the better team. It was just the QB player that

728
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: kind of bet them. And you know, even defensively, it

729
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: seemed like they got a lot of pressure on CJ.

730
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: And what you just talked about stays up to me

731
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: with Brock Purty is you know, Trent Williams has not

732
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: been there, and you know that does affect him in

733
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: some way where he's had to deal with a lot

734
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: of pressure in his face and for some reason, whatever

735
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: it is going on with him and Kittle, like that

736
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: should be a safety valve, but instead he's turning to

737
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel, who's just been disappointing all season with the drops,

738
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: And you know, I got what they were trying to

739
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: do last week, you mean me and you bet them

740
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: like we thought I was gonna have like AJ today

741
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: AJ Brown had a touchdown in one hundred yards receiving.

742
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: That's what I honestly thought it was gonna happen with Debo.

743
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: It's like you just gonna force feed him to make it,

744
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: make it work out for you. You're not gonna, you know,

745
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: let it fail again this week. And it did feel

746
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: like you just said, you're probably learning. Maybe I'm overthinking,

747
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: because I honestly wanted to take the forty nine ers

748
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: in this spot, but you're probably right where it's like, No,

749
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: this is actually when you back Miami, like them at

750
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: home in this exact spot against bad teams. This is

751
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: when they dominate and we have to come to terms

752
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: with like this forty nine ers team is a bad team.

753
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean they literally had a guy quit in the

754
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: third quarter. I forgot what quarter it was, maybe it

755
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: wasn't before the half. But it's like that the mojo

756
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: in that locker room. As bad as it might be

757
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: in Miami right now, it's nowhere near as bad as

758
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: it's forty nine ers. They are a team that's just

759
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: going through it right now. So I'm with each other.

760
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: I think that's a good read.

761
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: What do you think of your Bucks now at four

762
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: and a half on the road against the Dallas Cowboys.

763
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: I hate it because it's like I want to take

764
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 2: the Cowboys but now, but the Bucks are a good team,

765
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: like we've talked about, like they feel like they are

766
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: a good team. But we've talked this year, they feels

767
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: like they play their competition level. So I don't know.

768
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe I'm just a little speak because I

769
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: actually watched a deep dece amount of Cowboys Carolina again

770
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: because like we talked about, were I bet Carolina, I'll

771
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: be first to admitted I like love them because I

772
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: got them about one and a half and I was like, oh,

773
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: I got the smart number, beat the books. This will

774
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: land on two or three, and I'll be the smart

775
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: one hearing now they get rolled because Cooper Rush had

776
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: to me the best game he's had since he's become

777
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: a starter. Real off balanced throws, corner pocket of the

778
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: end zone, like no problem. You know this was a

779
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: superstar game for the Cowboys too, like Ceedee Lamb Monster Game,

780
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons Monster Game. Can we bet on that? Carrying over?

781
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Chad like that's what we're gonna need, Like we'll need

782
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: to cover this number, but it feels like early here

783
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: the right side at this number is probably the Cowboys,

784
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: like this is it is too much respect to the

785
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Bucks team with this probably closer to three four and

786
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: a half. That's that's agreedious. So I'm fighting this on

787
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: it out because I think you're right where. It's like,

788
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: I know what I have to do here, but we

789
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: got burned so bad today. It's taken a lot from

790
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: me wanting to just bet an ugly dog like this

791
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 2: in Cooper Rush.

792
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to make any bets right now.

793
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm.

794
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: Firing away right now. That's how we're so different. I'm

795
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: sick of I'm like, get the stank off and let

796
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: me just fire.

797
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Get back into the game. I don't know if I

798
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm going to make a bet until

799
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: next Sunday.

800
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm burning the tape from this week's brother just moving on.

801
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: Gotta all right, because this one is just absolutely stings,

802
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, that's for a line that's one

803
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: of the more over valued ones. I mean again, we

804
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: didn't even talk about the Bill's Patriots number, like that's fourteen.

805
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of that this week where

806
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: it's like ugly teams are gonna be really down in

807
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: the pits because there were so many bad blowouts this week, right,

808
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: Like the dogs got pretty smoked for the most part

809
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: this week. And that's what's gonna be really tough for

810
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: me you to avoid because we've talked about we've been

811
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: trying to put more favorites in because the favorites have

812
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: been hitting, and like, this is another week where there's

813
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a bunch of big dogs with value they

814
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to have to avoid in some some

815
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: way because there's there's just so attempting on, Like right now,

816
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: I want to fire away on the Patriots plus fourteen,

817
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: but it's like, can we do that with Josh Allen

818
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: playing at the lovyes, playing at exactly I'm the same

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00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: to step in front of.

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Speaker 1: Them again, so we all let's look, we didn't do

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Speaker 1: that with the Giants this week.

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Speaker 2: No, And I just I did the stuck you if

824
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: I just took the Ravens first half because I was

825
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,080
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