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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host, Steve Dennis. Oh my gosh, what a week

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Speaker 1: to be a Cowboys fan. What a week to be

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Speaker 1: on the radio talking Cowboys football. Yes, my name is

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Speaker 1: Steve Dennis. First time on Dallas Cowboys dot Com radio

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Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. If I could just take quick moment

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Speaker 1: for personal side in fact, one of our foursome today

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Speaker 1: and I did the Break Together Dead in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good season two that the official decided to ruin

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Speaker 1: at the end of it. But I'm thank real quick again.

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Speaker 1: One more second of personal stuff. Chris Beam, I call

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Speaker 1: him rookie for making this happen, along with Derek Eagleton,

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman and Scott Purcell and whoever else. All Right,

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Speaker 1: as far as me being the host of this show,

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: four hosts of this show every Tuesday and Thursday. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a free for all. There is no host.

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Speaker 1: There's Nick wants to call time out. Yeah, is this

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Speaker 1: just your way of saying you also want to be

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Speaker 1: an analyst as well? I want to. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: better ideas will come from you three than from me,

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Speaker 1: just because you've You've got the more opinions than anyone

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. So you can be a host, but

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Speaker 1: you're also gonna throw some heat. Don't and don't kid

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Speaker 1: yourself might have been bottled up for about eight nine

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Speaker 1: months now. You guys have been talking about all this

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Speaker 1: stuff forever. The name of this show is media mash

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Speaker 1: and what that means is we're gonna mash it up

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Speaker 1: on the most important Cowboys topics week to week. That's it.

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Speaker 1: So here comes the foursome. I'm see I'm not the

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Speaker 1: official host. We're all four hosts. So introduce your sitting there.

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Speaker 1: John states your affiliation and I don't know, maybe your

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Speaker 1: favorite cereal. Oh, I'm going first, All right, I'm John

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Speaker 1: ma shoud I cover the Cowboys for the Athletic U

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Speaker 1: favorite cereal. I guess I'll go with Captain crunch Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to this though. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: and invite me on here and obviously, I've known everybody

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Speaker 1: be fun, all right, Nick Eatman, I usually sit over

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a few years now, and

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Speaker 1: I don't eat cereal, so I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't. You don't need I don't. You've all grossed

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Speaker 1: up past. I just don't. I don't eat it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I mean now now I buy it

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Speaker 1: a lot because my kid will eat Captain Crunch all

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Speaker 1: day and Lucky Charms, except for he gets the little one.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't eat the cereal, get the charms out, arms out,

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Speaker 1: but I usually don't eat them. But it's okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rob Phillips of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Media. I usually sit there in Nick seat, but

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Speaker 1: Chris actually made me move because the lights shine on

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Speaker 1: my bald spot so bad that he made me move

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Speaker 1: to the right. So this is where I'm normally sitting

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Speaker 1: out for talking Cowboys. My favorite cereal has to be

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Speaker 1: Lucky Charms. No, don't have to worry about that. Good others.

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Speaker 1: We've got other histories. Everybody's got their own problem. No,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that's got their problem. I'm the only one

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Speaker 1: wearing a hat, Rob, Why do you think I'm doing that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have not left my house without a

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Speaker 1: the new look. I wouldn't take it off and show

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Speaker 1: you how the lights may affect me. Well, maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: headed down that road too where I had to work. Now, honey,

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Speaker 1: that's completely went by it. Um. I want to tip

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Speaker 1: medium mash uh. It's gonna be Nick or Rob every

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Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday, four to five, with a smallish rotation

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Speaker 1: of media beat people porking on that. People who see

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Speaker 1: every single second of a Cowboys season and the show

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Speaker 1: There will be others and it will be a free

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Speaker 1: entire preseason. But the way I see it, you Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Number one will be topic number one, And it's not

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Speaker 1: this notion that the national media has been thrown around

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Speaker 1: for a month and a half. Will Dak Prescott play

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Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay? Is he gonna make it for the game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he was gonna make it for the game.

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Speaker 1: That's why they went through that whole deal of cautiousness, etc.

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Speaker 1: The question is how will he play? How will Dak

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Speaker 1: gonna be rusty for a few series. I don't think

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Speaker 1: himself and what's made him himself as the threat to run,

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Speaker 1: Chief's offensive line. With just four that's all they needed.

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Speaker 1: blitz guys, they picked off Pat Mahomes. They're really really

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Speaker 1: So what does that look like in this game? And

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Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna come hard. I got two things

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Speaker 1: Dak is. He's a tremendous elite athlete. He hasn't played

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Speaker 1: in what three hundred and thirty three days. You guys

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Speaker 1: He may be okay, but he's not gonna be Dak

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Speaker 1: How will Dak play number two? What is this Quinn defense?

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Speaker 1: with you guys here with this question. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the case that the defense is much better than

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Speaker 1: it was last year, who are you mainly betting on

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Speaker 1: to make that so, Dan Quinn or Michael Parsons. That's

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Speaker 1: a good question because those are the first two that

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Speaker 1: come to my mind. But I'm gonna go with dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn because to me, as a diehard Florida State fan,

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Speaker 1: over the last five years, they've dropped off in play

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Speaker 1: so much that you're just to the point where you're

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Speaker 1: just like, just look like you're fundamentally sound. Just do

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Speaker 1: like the little things that I don't even care about

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Speaker 1: the talents on the field, Just do the stuff that

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Speaker 1: makes me know, hey, they're well coached and we're headed

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. You got that the other night, Okay, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's good about that. And I do a lot.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying with this defense, like they

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Speaker 1: show me that there aren't the miss tackles, the missed assignments,

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Speaker 1: the multiple games where we're going into the postgame press

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Speaker 1: conference talking about lack of effort, Like if you eliminate

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and then it just comes down

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Speaker 1: to a maybe you're not as talented as maybe the

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Speaker 1: top ten defense or something. I think they land somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the middle, and I think that's good enough, in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the pack in the NFL, and that's

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Speaker 1: where they should be because that is kind of the

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Speaker 1: thing that we got used to under Rod Marinelli. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was never this load up on defensive talent. You know, fourteen, sixteen, eighteen,

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Speaker 1: none of those years were great on talent, but you

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Speaker 1: at least knew, hey, these guys are gonna play hard

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna be you know, assignment sound.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna get that out. They overachieved.

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Speaker 1: Mary Ally's defense is always overachieved, didn't they Yes, always

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Speaker 1: for the most part, for the most part. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean your brain's going to a specific look like when

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Speaker 1: were they just overloaded with like talent on the defensive? Right? No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, and that was kind of by design, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, because he was like trying, I felt like,

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Speaker 1: he kind of tried to be the hero all the

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Speaker 1: time and just get these Nick Hayden's of the world

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Speaker 1: When you know, it's like, well, why don't you why

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Speaker 1: don't we draft somebody? You know? But he didn't even

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Speaker 1: want that. Sometimes sometimes there was a guys where he

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Speaker 1: didn't even want in the first round and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: take an offensive player. Yeah, he was proud when they

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Speaker 1: signed a good free agent deal with somebody else. Oh

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Speaker 1: what we did we developed that right guy? Right? Just

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Speaker 1: didn't you know college what do you think debating? I'm quinn,

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Speaker 1: I mean Parsons is gonna He's gonna have an immediate impact.

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Speaker 1: And when I watch when I watched Devin White, I

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Speaker 1: kind of see a little of what they want Micah

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Speaker 1: Parsons to do and what they think he can do,

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Speaker 1: just the speed, pass, rush ability, all that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, when you listen him talk to us, it's

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Speaker 1: not quite Bill Parcels all those press conferences we listened

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Speaker 1: to back in the day where you felt like it

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Speaker 1: was like a seminar on football. It's not quite that,

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Speaker 1: but you do feel like you're learning something and you

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Speaker 1: have a clear understanding of what he expects certain roles

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Speaker 1: for guys, more so than last year with Mike Nolan.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not ripping on Mike Nolan, but I think

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Speaker 1: they just guys weren't comfortable with the scheme. They weren't

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Speaker 1: comfortable with their assignments. There wasn't enough time to put

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Speaker 1: it all together. It was virtual, was all that crap.

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Speaker 1: It was just a bad situation. They've tried to upgrade

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Speaker 1: the talent. I think they have in some lots. But

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Speaker 1: I think Quinn's communication, everything you hear about him as

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Speaker 1: a teacher and stuff, it comes through when we talk

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Speaker 1: to him. I think I can see why people have

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Speaker 1: players have faith in him. You still have to have

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Speaker 1: the players to do it. Yeah, And I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: not a huge fan of the movie Big Lebowski. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it a few times, but I mean, there's there's

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Speaker 1: the dude. Right. You hated them, don't you know. I

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Speaker 1: don't love It's not one of my favorites, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do love it. Yeah, it's easy

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Speaker 1: to hate, right right, No, No, it's and it's I've

582
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Speaker 1: seen it a few times. But what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: is there's the dude. And I'm gonna go with Parsons

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Speaker 1: to your answer, because I do think Dan Quinn's gonna help,

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00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, get all these guys in the right place.

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00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think he's gonna make them better.

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: But at some point you gotta have the guy. And

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Speaker 1: I think Michael Parsons can be him. If it's not.

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory has a chance too. There's everything's out in

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00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: front of him now. He could have a really big year.

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00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: But but Quinn's got to figure out how to get

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Speaker 1: him going, how to get him and Dla, how to

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Speaker 1: figure out what to do with Jalen Smith, where do

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Speaker 1: you want to play him? And all that, But I

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00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: think Michael Parsons is your best guy to just say

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00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: he is going to be catalytic and take it over.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna go with Mica. Would it be

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Speaker 1: something if Randy Gregory became, That'd be the best story

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, wouldn't it. He'll got the ability to

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Speaker 1: do it. Don't lose your thought on my thought. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, when we talk about Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: I just hope everything that we've seen throughout training camp

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Speaker 1: and all these practices out here at the Star is

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Speaker 1: what we see on Sundays. And when I say that,

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Speaker 1: it goes back to dan Quinn, like, please move Mica

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Speaker 1: all around, because not every coach is going to do

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00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: that right. You know, line him up like like we've

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Speaker 1: seen up to this point where you see him sometimes

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00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: rushing off the edge, you see him over over the notes,

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Speaker 1: you see him playing outside line, say, dropping into coverage,

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00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: like allow him to do all that stuff. Okay, that

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: sounds great, and I agree with you. The problem is

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time about a corner that

614
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: travels well. This corner should travel with this receiver. Well,

615
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: what does that also mean? Also means the other corner

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00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: has to travel. So when Mica Parsons is lining up

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Speaker 1: all these places, which I think he can do, that

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: means the other guy linebackers included, have to know where

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Speaker 1: they're going because that means they're lining up in different

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Speaker 1: spots too, so that it's not just an easy thing

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Speaker 1: to say Mica can line up everywhere. The rest of

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Speaker 1: the guys are also have to be adaptable. Well. I

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Speaker 1: also think that's why dan Quinn went out and got

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Speaker 1: Keian O'Neill because I think that that's a key that's

625
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: a key piece in there, because he trusts him and

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Keian O'Neill knows his system and just I mean, we

627
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: have very limited interactions with these guys, but like that,

628
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: from day one, that's what I noticed about Keano neil.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this makes sense. Why why he would

630
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Speaker 1: bring him in here play linebacker? You know, he was

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Speaker 1: obviously a safety before, Like, I think he fits into there.

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Speaker 1: And then Layton in Vanderesh, I think it won't have

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634
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Speaker 1: can obviously say healthy. Yeah, this is the reason why

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel this way. But

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a very long time, I

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Speaker 1: can't compare a season to it where you just have

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Speaker 1: really no idea what they're gonna be. And the coach

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, I went to a news conference on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and he said, our roster is forty three percent different,

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Speaker 1: which gives you an idea where we think we're headed.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going, huh, all right, that means you had

643
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Speaker 1: to really change it from last year. But you have

644
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Speaker 1: no idea how it means you're headed anywhere good until

645
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Speaker 1: you get out and see and if you think about it.

646
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Speaker 1: And this is what makes me lean into the darkness

647
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Speaker 1: a little bit, is only three players really pop through

648
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Speaker 1: the preseason. Now you guys can argue with me because

649
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Speaker 1: you probably have more that you saw every play. I mean, Keano,

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Speaker 1: Micah and Jabrille Cox. Those three players popped, didn't they.

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Speaker 1: I think vander Esch had a really good camp that's

652
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Speaker 1: not always indicated by like splash plays, like Micah had

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Speaker 1: more splash plays. But I think Layton was a lot

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Speaker 1: of times in the right spot, you know, like doing

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Speaker 1: what he needs to be doing, which was a problem

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Speaker 1: last year on defense, a lot of the time. Trayvon

657
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Diggs got beat a lot, but there's nothing wrong with

658
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Speaker 1: that when you're playing with against Ceedee Lamb constantly. Like

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Speaker 1: I think he had a really good camp too. I

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Speaker 1: think those are two guys you can lean on and

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Speaker 1: then you know, and then DeMarcus Lawrence getting zero snaps

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Speaker 1: and obviously him he's out there, there's a trickle down

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Speaker 1: to the impact. It's going to help the rest of the

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Speaker 1: the defensive line. What about the new guys though? Did

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Speaker 1: pop at all? I mean this is did he Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did, Carlos pop? Did you see something from him

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00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: that lets you move Kevin Jess, Carlos Carlos walking? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna start inside, you gotta stop the run.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do it last year. Did I mean, did

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Speaker 1: you see something at any point in the preseason a

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Speaker 1: little bit of dominance from him? Or Osa? Or bash

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Speaker 1: him or urban the new guys? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That's a great question because I think I think Osa

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Speaker 1: is showing he could be an impact guy right off

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Speaker 1: the bat, and he needs to be because they've I

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Speaker 1: totally agree with you, like Quinn, is my answer to

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Speaker 1: your question. But the biggest problem they had was that

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Speaker 1: interior line stopping the run. And they've committed a lot

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Speaker 1: of resources in free agency, not a big bucks but

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Speaker 1: draft picks to do it. That's first and foremost. And

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Speaker 1: without Neville Gallimore, I think that is a question mark.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think they'll be better how much? How

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Speaker 1: much better? Because it was as bad as it could

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Speaker 1: get last year. And if they play really good in there,

685
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Speaker 1: they help the linebackers stop the run, yes, which is

686
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Speaker 1: what they were able to do a few seasons ago

687
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: ridiculously when Jalen And and Layton were both phenomenal. But

688
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Speaker 1: to be good there, you need everything that's on this roster,

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Speaker 1: and they're not going to have everything on this roster.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have Triston Hill, You're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore like they need. Going back to the Rod

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Speaker 1: Miri Andelli thing where you know, when they had to

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Speaker 1: Marcus Ware, you never heard them talk about we're going

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Speaker 1: to rotate in a lot of guys, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: know when you have to Marcus where you just leave

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Speaker 1: him out there and he just plays every snap and

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Speaker 1: everything's fine. Well with these defensive tackles. When you have

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Speaker 1: that where you have Gallimore and you have Tristan Hill

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Speaker 1: and Osa and Urban and Kyles Watkins. Then you're constantly

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Speaker 1: rotating those guys and then I think that they could

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Speaker 1: be solid. But when all of a sudden two of

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Speaker 1: those key pieces aren't going to be on the field

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Speaker 1: for a while to start the season, that's where I

704
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Speaker 1: mean to me that that's the biggest position of concern

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Speaker 1: going into this therapy. It's the same with safety, because

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Speaker 1: you're like, who's the best two safeties? Were? We talked

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Speaker 1: about out of practice the other day and it was

708
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Speaker 1: like everyone had different answers, you know, and like you

709
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Speaker 1: don't know who are the best guys. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: four guys out there and I think you could you

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Speaker 1: could say all of them could be considered in the

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Speaker 1: top two. And that's so is that a good thing?

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Speaker 1: There's depth, but there's not a dude so well. I

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Speaker 1: you know, Kazy and Donovan are pretty pretty good place

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Speaker 1: to start. I think, don't you think you can argue

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Speaker 1: that Hooker and Curse or better, Hooker may come right,

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Speaker 1: may start coming with time. Yeah, I could see that

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Speaker 1: he's talented. I don't know what he's lost, but I

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Speaker 1: know that player a little bit. Yeah, and I don't

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Speaker 1: say why, but as zero Johnny buck Eye, he's there

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Speaker 1: is I mean, he's really talented. All right, Well, since

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Speaker 1: you're bringing this up, I gotta bring this up with you.

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Speaker 1: Um So when they signed him, I went back and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go see the video

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Speaker 1: of like what the panel said. That's like hosting the

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Speaker 1: draft when when Hooker got taken by the Colts. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, anybody was listening, go back

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and look that up. It's about as critical

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Speaker 1: as I've ever heard anybody John Gruden on it, and

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Speaker 1: they would just I mean they were playing all these

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Speaker 1: replays of how bad he was against the run coming

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Speaker 1: up and couldn't make plays. Like Gruden was just like

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Speaker 1: I don't even know, like, yeah, he's a ballhawk on

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Speaker 1: the back end, but they come up and make plays

735
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: and they had these like this real ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe how critical they were. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the kid just got drafted, and so that was always

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Speaker 1: my thing I was wondering once they signed him, was like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's improved because I haven't watched him

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Speaker 1: a lot with the Colts, but That was the thing

741
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: with Ohio State. They said, like, you know, he could

742
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Speaker 1: get the interceptions in the back end. I think he

743
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: had seven in one season, but they when they were

744
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: a little nervous about him coming up in the run

745
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: and being that type of safe. Right. Absolutely, the secondary

746
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: is really good that he played on. I mean Latimore

747
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: was on it and Eli Apple when he was a

748
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: good player, and there were a lot of yeah, I

749
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: hear you. I mean hooker. What he did was he

750
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: found the ball. I don't think he was a killer back.

751
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: And if he does that here, no one don't care.

752
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: And he has an act for it. He has an

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Speaker 1: act for it whatever. Whatever. That night to say this,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna put on number twenty eight and be

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Speaker 1: a safety, you better do both. All right. So you

756
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: guys are in the press box, uh in Tampa and

757
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: here comes Brady, So your your eyes go where on

758
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: the defense? I mean, because nobody has a clue how

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00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: good or bad the defense is going to be. And

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00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: we probably won't tell what week eight as Parcels would say, Oh,

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00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: we do shows every day. We're gonna find out Friday.

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00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Friday after the game, we're gonna have it all out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't, we don't, we don't. Wait, you know it's true?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Five shows out? Yeah? Yeah, Bill said, Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: He was in my dreams last night. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you brought him up. He showed up in a dream

767
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Speaker 1: I had last night. He told me to do it again.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I was doing, he didn't like it. He goes again, Man,

769
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Speaker 1: this I was in my dream. But anyway, where your

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00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: I need more information than that, because you don't if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, I do, I do you need more

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Speaker 1: I need. I need a little bit more info than

773
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: just him saying do it again. Don't even remember in

774
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: your dream it was some short come up with something

775
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: and he scared me. That's all. We're all scared right now.

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00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: So where are your eyes going? Are you gonna look

777
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: at the safeties? Are you gonna look at the linebackers?

778
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Are you gonna look at the tackles? Where where are

779
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: your eyes going? Everything's yeah, you're gonna just just look.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're going to mica. Okay, every single I'm doing that.

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's gonna be doing that. I mean, he is

782
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: the chess piece. He's the thing that's he moved around

783
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: all over the place, and Tom Brady's gonna play games

784
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Speaker 1: with him because that's exactly what he's gonna go after.

785
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Is this young kid that's got the sticker on his

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Speaker 1: Tom doesn't like the fact that they have different numbers. Now,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, you might not know. He

788
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Speaker 1: didn't like that they had to change the rules with

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Speaker 1: eleven and that set it again today, did he Yeah? Again,

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Speaker 1: that was a social media post. He's still pissed off.

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00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Deal with it. Because the Cowboys have two safeties wearing

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00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: six and eighteen, and they have a two linebackers were

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: nine and eleven. I think eleven will be out there

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Speaker 1: more than nine, but whatever, you got a corner. We're

795
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Speaker 1: in seven. Corner, We're in seven, and try. I like

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Speaker 1: your dude reference because I think the best success coming

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Speaker 1: out of the Tampa game would be if Mica is

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: just a dude and you go and he just liked

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Speaker 1: the Marcus ware did in that preseason game in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: just jumped because and you just want whoa if he

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Speaker 1: does that, I don't care what the score in the

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Speaker 1: game is, because if he doesn't and Lyle Collins has

803
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Speaker 1: problems or somebody gets hurt on that offensive line and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden Rashawn Slater's doing great over there

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Speaker 1: with the Chargers. It's gonna be like he was just Okay,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to change my opinion on that. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, watched the defense last year. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you could not argue pick a defensive player to

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Speaker 1: help me somebody right, And he was the guy they

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Speaker 1: say on their board you're very capable to. Next year's

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Speaker 1: could go do the exact same thing all over again

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm one of the hosts too, So are

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869
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: very very very talented. Right, I mean, do you want

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Speaker 1: to you want to say, you want to say why

871
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: we're both on it today? Well, I mean I mean

872
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: you want to throw at the yes? Um, all right?

873
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: So Clarence Hill, Yeah, yeah, wait where's the ding ding ding? Yeah?

874
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: It was Clarence was scheduled. And this is again is

875
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: where I fail as a host. Already another night in

876
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Tampa are here? Yeah, he had to go to Tampa early.

877
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: And now we're not going to ask Michell did I

878
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: guess why? Undefeated? That's a good word, good words, Speaking

879
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: of good words, all right, this is something I came

880
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: up with. It's it's really silly, but we're gonna do

881
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: it on Tuesdays on this in this hour because it's

882
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: a way of no one. What was good? What was bad?

883
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: And what scared the hell out of you coming out

884
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: of the game. Cheers, jeers and fears. Cheers rookie, See

885
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: see a little element action here. Cheers, it's my day

886
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and I love this when fears it is the Cuban

887
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: missile crisis today. See he's gonna come in my dream

888
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: again tonight. Bill. I just thought you kidding me. Bill's

889
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: doing well all right? Who wants to start? Didn't show

890
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: a hand? Who wants to start with? And what we

891
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: mean by cheers, jeers and fears. I want you guys

892
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: to find the one guy you've seen every second of

893
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: the entire preseason, and ota is the whole business. Who

894
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: do you want to tip the cap to? Who do

895
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: you give cheers to? Going to the opener? Jeers? Who

896
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: you don't want to give the tip of the cap too?

897
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: You're worried about the performance in the preseason, and then

898
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: fears is more of a general thing. What worries you

899
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: most as we get ready to kick off the season?

900
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: You first, Philip at once or just the just the

901
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: cheers cheers first, ceedee lamb, ceedee lamb. Was I'm probably

902
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: stealing your pick. I'm probably stealing in your pick And

903
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: maybe your pick two. He was absolutely dominant, and he

904
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: did it, you know, in practice and some of the preseason.

905
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: He did it with backup quarterbacks. You know, that was

906
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: the thing about it. He found a connection with Garrett

907
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Gilbert and Cooper Rush and took a step towards being

908
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: the best receiver on this team. I still think it's

909
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: a MARII Cooper when he's fully healthy and he's ready

910
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: to go for Week one, but I think the GAP's closed.

911
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: I think they've got basically one A, one B type receivers.

912
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: And then Michael gallops right there too, and he's probably

913
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna go high in some fantasy drafts. Nick, where did

914
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: he go in your fantasy? I don't even know. I

915
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: didn't get him. I didn't get him. I got Gallop

916
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: like in the ninth round, so twelfth round or something.

917
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: He didn't go higher than a mari in my Yeah,

918
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: I mean, did he steal your cheers? Oh? One hundred percent.

919
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean when I got to training camp, all I

920
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: care about our tweeting videos from practice, so we don't

921
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: get to do it any other time of year. And

922
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When goes down early, you know,

923
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a helmet obviously likes doing it too, and we would

924
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: just were like, oh, it was terrible for our content.

925
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: And we'd even joke around like when they would be

926
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: doing some of these drills and they're just like, you know,

927
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: thirty minutes without like tweeting any video or just like oh,

928
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: we don't have anything, and then they're here comes CD

929
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: would always save the day with some type of you know,

930
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: big time catch him. He just I don't know, like

931
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you don't even have to know anything about the Cowboys

932
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: or know anything about football, Like if you just went

933
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: to one of their practices, like you would just be

934
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: like okay, and then you leave, and as you leave,

935
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: there's a person staying there. Go who stood out to you.

936
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: Almost everybody would say eighty eight he's good. Yeah, the

937
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: eighty eight guy does does really cool stuff. Like it's

938
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: been that way for a long time. Yeah, just say

939
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: that he's an alien. He's like DeAndre Hopkins, who's an alien.

940
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: He's just there's he's got the alien factor where he

941
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: he's different. He doesn't look like a human. Yeah, And

942
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: I keep going back when when you say that, honestly,

943
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: he just doesn't Honestly, when you say that, the very

944
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: first thing I think of is that is that touchdown

945
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: catch in Minnesota and that like back in the end

946
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: zone where he like he like adjusted his body in

947
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: mid air where you're just like you're continuously rewinding like wait,

948
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: how did he do this? How did he do this?

949
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Like and then he comes up with that big old

950
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: grin on his face like a little kid. Everything is

951
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: like when we when he's out here and we're talking

952
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: to him, like, I'm like, he's not real wide. He

953
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: kind of looks. I mean because even we're in the

954
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: eighty eight, I'm kind of like, that's kind of like

955
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: that number doesn't fit him, like he I feel like

956
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: he should be like like he should be eleven or

957
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: a single digit or whatever. But when you watch him play,

958
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: whether it's Oklahoma or since he's been here, like he

959
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: breaks tackle, he's physical, Like I don't know, like I

960
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: don't think there's really a weakness to his game. And

961
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: in training camp, you know, and maybe that's why Treyvon

962
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Diggs didn't stand out a lot because he was always

963
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: going against him and they had some battles. Yeah, and

964
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Diggs did some things, but yeah, I see it was

965
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: the CD got Oh yeah, I don't have a player

966
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: this could be genius, let's hear it. I don't know

967
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: if it's genius, but I'm gonna go with Britt Brown,

968
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Jim Mauer, Greg Gaither and that training staff. And I'll

969
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: tell you why. Because Dak Prescott is ready to go.

970
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: And when he was getting carted off the field and

971
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: taking getting the surgery, getting second surgery, there were some

972
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: question marks about that, and maybe not that he would

973
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: play this game, but that he would be ready to go.

974
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: He's got they got them ready. He got Lyle Collins ready,

975
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: he's got Tyrant Smith feeling the best that they could feel.

976
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: So they're giving the Cowboys the best chance right now

977
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: to go succeed. And everyone said it. They got to

978
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: get the tackles back, they got to get Dack back,

979
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: of course, not in that order, and I applaud them

980
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: for doing They did their job. I mean, there's no

981
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: doubt about it, but it's it was. I think they

982
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: did a marvelous job of getting them to this point.

983
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Those three have been doing a marvelous job for a

984
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: really long time they have. How do you think their

985
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: success rate depends on how good the patient is? And

986
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: when I say that, because when you mentioned about the

987
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Dak thing like, I feel like Dak is the type

988
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: of guy that's literally gonna do whatever Britt says and

989
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: more and more, yeah or yeah, obviously more. I mean

990
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: they can try to do more and then. But that's

991
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: that's what the genius is of those guys, because everybody's like, no,

992
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm coming in, I'm gonna do more, and you're like, no,

993
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: that's not by the way, real quick, both of you

994
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: and everybody involved. The Deep Blue presentation of Drew and

995
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Woodson phenomenal outstanding work, and Britt had me crying in

996
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: the Woodson one. About Woodson just what you're talking about

997
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: where he he would always want to do more, he

998
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: wants to do more, he just kept and Britt was

999
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: getting choked up about it. Well, you guys know you

1000
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: put it together, but that really got me in that

1001
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: about Woody and Britt Brown talking about what kind of

1002
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: a player he was. Yeah, phenomenal, but they have you

1003
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: have to care. You have to care like that when

1004
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: when they see that the players all in and invested,

1005
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: like you said, then that they'll they'll give you everything

1006
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: they've got. And I guarantee you not only did Dak

1007
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: do that, but he had Lyle Collins with him right

1008
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: next to him as well. So those guys working together,

1009
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: tiring all that stuff. So we'll see what happens on

1010
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: the field. But just getting them there, I give some

1011
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: cheers to them, all right. My mine was CD. But

1012
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to years first for me because I'm

1013
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna pick on Amar first. In his line this week

1014
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: where he said, yeah, I'm the most talented wide receiver

1015
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: in the world. I just haven't showed it yet. See,

1016
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: I've been saying that about my broadcasting career, my whole life.

1017
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm the best that ever lived. I just haven't shown

1018
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: it yet. I mean, what kind of a comment was that.

1019
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to give some jeers to that. That makes

1020
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: no sense. I want to get that out. If you

1021
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: guys want to react, feel free. I love it. I

1022
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: love the comment. Do you yeah? Yeah? Yeah, he's a

1023
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Would you love it if I said it? No?

1024
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: Because you've had forty five years to do it. He's

1025
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: had the same failure. But he's saying, do I feel

1026
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: like I'm the best? Yeah? But do also do I

1027
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: need to prove it? That's fine. We got guys out

1028
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: here on this team that are not saying that second line.

1029
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: They're just saying the first line. I would say the

1030
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: first line first and then follow it. If I start

1031
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: showing it, I think I could be the best wide

1032
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Yeah, don't lead with yeah, I'm

1033
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the best. I just haven't shown it yet. If your

1034
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: kid said something like that, oh, I'm a straight age student.

1035
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: I just haven't shown it yet, You're gonna go say what.

1036
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: But he was asked the question right way, are you

1037
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the league? And he said yes?

1038
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: But and I thought, yeah, it was a mature answer.

1039
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: How much are we killing him if he doesn't I

1040
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: just if he says but if he says I think

1041
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm number eight, even though I'm getting paid like a

1042
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: number one or two. What if he says I'm probably

1043
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: eight or nine, how are we are we killing him

1044
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: for that? I'm making a lot of money. I'm actually, guys,

1045
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm realistic. Yeah, what is my average pick in the

1046
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: in fantasy drafts? Right? Am? I like thirty one? Hey, rookie,

1047
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: give us the jeer sound again. I like that. It's

1048
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: my quarterback. Man. That sounds familiar. I'm not quite sure.

1049
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: I think we were standing right there why a long

1050
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: time ago? All right, my gear, we gotta hurry a

1051
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: little bit here, my gear real quick. Is just kind

1052
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: of the whole preseason in general. I think I just

1053
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: think it's been a failure for the Cowboys. I don't think,

1054
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's the way preseasons go anyway in

1055
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, you know, you get all excited, nobody

1056
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: plays Zeke. What did he get? How many snaps handful? Dak? Oh?

1057
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: He got zero? Two? De Mark is zero. They got

1058
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: beat in every game, and most importantly, they never showed

1059
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: dominance in any single two minute period of any game,

1060
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: in any thing on the field. So you would have

1061
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: felt better, though, if Dak comes out there for one series.

1062
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Let's say he doesn't We're gonna go hypothetical, doesn't have

1063
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: a shoulder issue. He gets out there for one series

1064
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: with the Ones and they just go right down the

1065
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: field against whoever, Houston, whatever. If they just had that

1066
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: one drive, then you'd be happy with that. Speaking specifically

1067
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: about Dak being ready for Night after Tomorrow, I think

1068
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: he should have got one series and felt the game. Again,

1069
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: how much different would you feel though about this preseason

1070
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: if he would have had that one drive? Let's say

1071
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: they just go right down the field like eight plays

1072
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: nice touchdown ball in this slant to see really bit

1073
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I just when you come out of

1074
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: a preseason. Of course, it's so weird two years in

1075
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: a row with all the protocols and guys coming and going,

1076
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: and it's very difficult. It was very difficult for coach

1077
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy last year. I was just looking for one period

1078
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: of dominance. I don't care if it's the kicker, the returner, something,

1079
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: just go oh okay, let's see if we see that.

1080
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, too much on me. What do you got, Nick? Oh?

1081
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean I see your point there. I mean, you

1082
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: wanted to see a little bit more success. I can't

1083
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: think of anything right off the top of my head.

1084
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: That's like, like, you know, I can't believe they didn't

1085
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: do this or that. I mean because I think I've

1086
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: I've learned over the years that it's like it just

1087
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because getting out of the preseason without any crutches.

1088
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't even do that because they got

1089
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: guys hurt, key guys like Gallamars and maybe McEwen. But

1090
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for the most part, you got

1091
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. It's the most important thing. So I

1092
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: don't have a a. I mean, I would just be

1093
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: picking on a young player or something. I'm trying to

1094
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: think of somebody to do that, but who. I just

1095
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't think they put anybody in position to do anything.

1096
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Did we see Jalen Smith do anything? No. Not. They

1097
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: protected their top guys, especially guys coming back from injury.

1098
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't see d Law doing them. He

1099
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: didn't play. I mean, so we didn't see these guys

1100
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: do anything. So I agree with you though it wasn't

1101
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything to get excited about it. I think

1102
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: this is the one preseason where I absolutely know nothing

1103
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: about the team. That's right. I just don't and that's

1104
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: why I didn't learn anything. I did not learn anything

1105
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: other than Cede Lamb took that next step and I

1106
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: think he is going to be an absolute baller. I

1107
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: didn't really learn a whole lot other than Micah Parsons

1108
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: looks like a good pick. I agree with you on that.

1109
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: On that point, I would say I could circle back

1110
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: to backup quarterback because we touched on that earlier. I

1111
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: didn't understand the competition. I didn't. I mean it wasn't.

1112
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't a competition until suddenly it was at the

1113
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: end of preseason and now they're splitting reps in games

1114
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: and then Cooper Rush wins it. Now maybe he had

1115
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: something to do with him being hurt early in camp.

1116
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, guys. They've got some money now

1117
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: under the cap because they've restructured stuff, and maybe they

1118
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: just don't think enough guys are out there. But that's

1119
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: what they're rolling with. And as I wrote today, hopefully

1120
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: they never have to find out. You know, that's the

1121
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: goal that Dak plays thirteen hundred straight snaps and you

1122
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: never have to worry about it. Swing tackle. I don't

1123
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: know that they answered that question either going into Week one,

1124
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: and again hopefully they don't have to worry about it.

1125
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: But Tiniski's been banged up. Terence Steele played last year,

1126
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: had some rough moments fought. Uh. That's that's a depth

1127
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: spot where you look at it and say, what's what's

1128
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: the answer. I don't know what the answer is week one.

1129
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: Mine is at center, mainly backup center. I just don't

1130
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: understand how the process has gone by just skipping Connor

1131
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: McGovern over when he played it in college and it

1132
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: and it just like clearly they're showing that they're not

1133
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent And Tyler Beotist with all the snaps

1134
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: we saw Connor Williams get at center there, they clearly

1135
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: would like him to be a better at center and

1136
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: that just hasn't happened. And now you hear Connor McGovern

1137
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: has gotten some third team center snaps, Like I don't know,

1138
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: it just it seems like why is this happening this

1139
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: close to the season, Like why wasn't this figured out

1140
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: like always you know a goo. So that's one thing

1141
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: where I just kind of I just don't feel like

1142
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: they're really settled there because personally, I think that if

1143
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: they if they were to, like I'm all about getting

1144
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: your best five out there on your offensive line, and

1145
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: I think if they were to get their best five

1146
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: out there, I think they would want Connor Williams to

1147
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: be the center because then you would get McGovern would

1148
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: probably be at guard and then be honest, would be

1149
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: your backup center, right And and I was told that

1150
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: the very reason that's why they try to get some

1151
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Connor Williams some snaps, thinking that maybe if he was

1152
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: good enough to replace beyondih right, then McGovern comes over.

1153
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Now what I what I don't understand is is that

1154
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: it was more of a reach for Connor Williams to

1155
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: play center than McGovern. Right. So if you if you

1156
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: think McGovern's one of your top five, then why not

1157
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: play him at center and Connor so I the argument

1158
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: that was made to me is that you I guess,

1159
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't want to put too much on

1160
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: cover Connor McGovern's plate because he was just kind of

1161
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: get comfortable at GARB. But I'm just like, he played

1162
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: an entire season at Penn State at center. I don't

1163
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: know why the transition would be that difficult for him.

1164
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: It seems like he would be a good fit there,

1165
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: at least for us to see more of that. I

1166
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: don't even remember seeing that at all out in Oxnard.

1167
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: I think it was Met Farniac that was the third

1168
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: third string center, right, And that's why I asked coach

1169
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 1: McCarthy that very question today and he basically said, you said,

1170
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: he's the third center. But I think the answers that

1171
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: he's a young player, they're trying to let him work

1172
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: at guard and because he's missed so much time. But

1173
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: I didn't really get it. I didn't think it's huh

1174
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: it was the second center. Then Connor Williams, M h

1175
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: you had a big day to day. By the way, Rob,

1176
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: you ever did a lot today? Keep coming up here

1177
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: on the show a lot a lot. Nick take notice

1178
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah good. Please please check out his work,

1179
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Nick if you get if you get a minute that fears,

1180
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: we hit some of it here with You know, this

1181
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: is not a major deal. The season is starting, so

1182
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: this is the time. And I know you guys are

1183
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: because this has been forever, hasn't it. I remember when

1184
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: you watch every play and every second and every move

1185
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: the team makes, you get to this point. Goh gosh,

1186
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: we got a game in a night and a half

1187
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: and then then we get to get into this. I mean,

1188
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: there's no more excitement than right now after everything you

1189
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: guys have endured, and fans too, they feel that way

1190
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: and they're pumped. But put it all through your brain.

1191
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: What is the one thing that if somebody walked up

1192
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: to you on the street and said, hey, Rob, what

1193
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: do you think will be this team's downfall? Or what

1194
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: are you worried about? What scares you about something? What's

1195
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: the one thing that maybe you got a little fear

1196
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: about start with rob health, just like last year. Can

1197
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: they keep everybody because on paper it looks like a

1198
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: very competitive team that should win this division, should be

1199
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: in the mix for a deep playoff run potentially. But

1200
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: and there's all this hope, like the first day of

1201
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: training camp, and then somebody gets hurt and you're like, oh, yeah,

1202
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: this is the reality of this game. And so you

1203
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: just don't don't know if I'm looking at something specifically

1204
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: going into Week one. I go back to our first

1205
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: segment and that's that's the old line. Just write this minute.

1206
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: If Zach doesn't play, and he'll be back soon from COVID.

1207
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: But Lyle Collins has been dealing with a stinger for

1208
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Now hopefully that doesn't linger. I mean,

1209
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: you want you want your guys in front of dak

1210
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: to be healthy. That's that's the thing. I look at

1211
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: clarification on that real quick, because fans are listening. He

1212
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: had to be vaccinated correct to have a chance to

1213
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: play Thursday. Zach we're talking about Yeah, so I don't know,

1214
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: don't hold me to this, But when when he first

1215
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: announced that he tested positive, I thought back to watch

1216
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: some of Hard Knocks, and I was told, I don't

1217
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: know if you guys knows or not, but to have

1218
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: your children on the field after practice, you had to

1219
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: be vaccinated. And obviously Zack Martin's kids are out there.

1220
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: So I immediately when he said that, I was like, oh,

1221
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: he's vaccinated because he was one of you saw it

1222
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks. He headed but and then I was

1223
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: told that he was vaccinated, so which means he does

1224
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: have time to get back to back negative results, but

1225
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: in the next forty eight hours, right, But but it

1226
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if he still has symptoms though, you know,

1227
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: if he's not if he's not healthy. And also here's

1228
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: their part about all of this. I understand that you know,

1229
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Jerry Is doesn't want ever close the door on anything.

1230
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: He likes keeping the whope alive. But like, do you

1231
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: really want to throw a guy out there? Like this

1232
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: isn't coming back from like you know, Jim wrap up

1233
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: his ankle a second time here, like this is COVID,

1234
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: Like do you really want him like coming right off

1235
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: of this, you know, force hmould hit these two tests

1236
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't practice all week and then just

1237
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: thrown him out there runs. Maybe yeah, but if you

1238
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: think that's what are symptoms, than no, I'm with you

1239
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: time all right, your turn, Nick. What's what's the big fear?

1240
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: He already stole mine. The biggest fears that they just

1241
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: can't they just can't stop the run. I mean like

1242
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: they just getting lead off the line and these these

1243
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: young guys that they have and they're trying to piece

1244
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: it together and you know, Dak just brought them back

1245
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: to within four and they got to make a stop

1246
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: to get back to get the ball back, and they

1247
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: just can't. They can't do it. They can't get off

1248
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: the field. They can't stop the run. That's what I

1249
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: that's the fear of mine. That's what we saw last year.

1250
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: And just the guys that they've added in there, I

1251
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: just don't see it. And one of them is banged

1252
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: up right now, and Neville Galimore. So that's a fear

1253
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: for me. It's always in every every level of football,

1254
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 1: stop the run. And so that's that's where it starts

1255
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: for me. Not I'm with you, That's where I am.

1256
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: They've got five of the eight top d lineman or

1257
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: new uh so many new guys in the secondary. As

1258
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: we talked about forty three percent of the roster. That

1259
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: shows you where we're headed. Well, what eight draft picks

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Speaker 1: on that side. That's where the fear is. We have

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Speaker 1: no idea. Let's watch them play, let's see what they do.

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Speaker 1: But right now I'm thinking, what if they're no good?

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Speaker 1: You know, and every fan goes, you know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have the young yang. The optimism is on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, obviously has been for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: But all right, Michela, what do you got? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean with Rob said about the health is clearly number

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Speaker 1: one for me, but even more specific it is COVID

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Speaker 1: and it's just that not knowing from week to week

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Speaker 1: who you're going to have, who guys were around, They're

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Speaker 1: just going to be so much uncertainty. I was out

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Speaker 1: at that Miller Lighthouse today when they did the unveiling

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Speaker 1: the ad that Nick just read, and Stephen Jones was

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Speaker 1: out there and he said that they're close to being

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent vaccinated. He said that there's only three

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Speaker 1: players now left on the roster, and that's including the

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Speaker 1: practice squad that have not at least started the process

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Speaker 1: of getting vaccines. So basically three players that are just

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Speaker 1: against you know, getting vaccinated, aren't you there's somebody on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad that's not vaccinated. No, no no, no, he said,

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Speaker 1: including them. I know, including but I'm just saying, are

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Speaker 1: you on the practice squad and you're not vaccinated? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Good made of stone? Yeah, good Joe. He just wanted

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Speaker 1: to make sure he was including them, that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: just the fifty three that was also the guys. I

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Speaker 1: get it, but I have a hard time that there's

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Speaker 1: somebody on the practice r right, it must be really good.

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Speaker 1: I just think there's just a lot of uncertainty from

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Speaker 1: week to week because of COVID, because even with being vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: the testing positive and then all of a sudden forever

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Speaker 1: Dad can't go on Sunday, So Cooper Rush, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go on you know, three days of practice or two

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Speaker 1: days or whatever. And it is for every everybody. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so if we're taking that out of there, I agree

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Speaker 1: with Rob. It's just the health. I mean, everyone talks

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Speaker 1: about DAK because it's the most obvious one, but I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how much success they have last year

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Speaker 1: with DAK. If they don't have Lyle Collins and Tyrant Smith.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was just it seemed like whatever could

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Speaker 1: go wrong did And that's the one thing that you

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Speaker 1: could fix is if you could get this team healthy.

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Speaker 1: If this team's healthy, I believe it's a playoff team. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that. Remember last year when Dak was on

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Speaker 1: the field and so was the offensive line. They started badly,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're going to start badly again this year.

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Speaker 1: But patients, I think they're going to be fine and be,

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Speaker 1: like you say, playoff contender. But these first two games

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Speaker 1: are brutal, Man, you're going to I think Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: could be an MVP candidate this year with that offensive

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Speaker 1: line they put in front of him. Now, it's a

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Speaker 1: weird start to go one side of the country against

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champions and then the other the other coast,

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Speaker 1: a road trip against an up and coming team. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, that's that's difficult. It's tough, and Dak

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Speaker 1: hasn't played. Yeah, and it's a little unfair to think

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Speaker 1: that Dak can out due Brady and Herbert with the

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Speaker 1: weapons that they both have and the weapons that Dak

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Speaker 1: has in these first two games. So I would say, patient,

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Speaker 1: you know, keep them healthy and then everything will be fine.

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Speaker 1: As the season moves along, But I think the expectations

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Speaker 1: should be little under for the first two games. But

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if it's not, if they go

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Speaker 1: into Tampa and go, yeah, super Bowl. My just Clock

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Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy knew all of these things and obviously

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Speaker 1: knew the schedule at this point. So now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious why he would have almost driven his

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Speaker 1: truck off the row when Jerry was like, on top

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Speaker 1: of that, you guys are gonna do hard knocks this year,

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Speaker 1: so it all it seems like this's a lot, But

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Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot difference between coach and the Packers

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. All right, fellas, I think we're done again.

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Speaker 1: I should know that, but I'm just kidding. Oh, thank

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Speaker 1: you Rookie, it's ready, Thank you media, mash. We'll do

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Speaker 1: it again Tuesday and Thursday of next week. You'll hear

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Speaker 1: a lot from Nick on the show, thankfully, a lot

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Speaker 1: from Rob on the show, a lot from a show

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Speaker 1: Town the show thankfully. Again. Thanks guys, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again next Tuesday. Enjoy the game, and

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Speaker 1: then listen to these guys break it down on Friday

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Speaker 1: they'll have all the answers. See you next Tuesday. This

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Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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