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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: Can Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 3: with the Matt Williamson and it is a lovely Thursday

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Speaker 3: here in Pittsburgh. And Matt, we have a little injury

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Speaker 3: report updated here in here we go, fresh off the hot,

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Speaker 3: off the pressure fluff. Let's go right into it. Uh So,

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Speaker 3: anybody hoping to see Marshawn Lattimore play for the Washington

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Speaker 3: Commanders this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure people in Washington are.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they are, and I know steel Fans have

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Speaker 3: been asking are they gonna you know, let's see how

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now, he ain't playing this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because he did not practice again today with that hamstring issue.

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Speaker 4: That's two days in a row with the new team.

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Speaker 1: Team. Yeah, you just not. He's not gonna play. That

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Speaker 1: makes all sense in the world. Now, was he hurt

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Speaker 1: when they traded for him? That?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You looked far enough into it, but obviously he's dealing

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Speaker 3: with his hamstring.

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Speaker 4: Now they knew that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely practiced for Washington, so he must

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Speaker 1: have done something in either this most recent game or

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Speaker 1: pre trade. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean again, you make trades like this not

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Speaker 3: looking at just this game. These are made for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got two years after this on the

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Speaker 1: but I thought I think it's two. So he's a

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Speaker 1: big picture item. Good. I mean, that's good for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Clellum Farrell, who was limited yesterday with a knee issue,

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Speaker 3: did not practice today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bro. I mean they kind of use a rotation

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Speaker 4: He's part of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Cornelius Lucas with an ankle, did not practice defensive end.

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Speaker 3: Dorance Armstrong limited for the second day in a row

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Speaker 4: He's their best edge.

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Speaker 1: I would say he's probably their best edge guy. They're

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Speaker 1: really happy with him. Fowlers are most productive sac guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all those dudes have of pedigree. They're trying to kind

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Fowler, he was limited for the second day

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Speaker 3: big deal because he's a twitchy type athlete. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean he's about to get off and he

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Speaker 1: was an early pick. So the three of them are

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Speaker 1: basically their defensive end rotation.

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Speaker 3: You know, Brian Robinson with that hamstring once again limited today, Okay,

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Speaker 3: good player. Austin Cybert, their kicker with that right hip injury,

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Speaker 3: didn't practice yesterday, was limited today.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, they haven't done anything.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have one on that practice

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Speaker 4: If he was limited today, they must expect him.

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Speaker 3: To play, I would think. But you wonder how much

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Speaker 3: that affects kicking depth and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a bombs away guy anyway.

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Speaker 4: It's three kicks over fifty yards this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what this year when everybody's kicking fifty yarders

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Speaker 3: except for Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if you need a fifty yard er

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Speaker 3: You know, offensive tackle Andrew Wiley with the shoulder limited

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Speaker 1: In a row. He's just starting right tackle.

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Speaker 3: Tight End Coulson yankoff that's a great name. He has

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Speaker 3: a hamstring. He was limited today. That's a new addition

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Speaker 3: to the Injury Report center. Tyler Biadis after being limited yesterday,

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Speaker 4: And the same thing with Noah He whose name.

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Speaker 3: at things on the Steelers side of things, really the

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Speaker 1: In Commanders list though. Yeah, there's some clusters significant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the Steelers side of things, you're looking at essentially.

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Speaker 4: Everything. Kind of status quo.

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Speaker 4: Why can't I get this thing come up?

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Speaker 3: Bigger Scronic and Matty Kaevich were both full participants again today.

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Speaker 3: They're still on the they can still be activated before

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Speaker 3: Sunday's game. Nick Nick Herbig still limited today. The only

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Speaker 3: new edition was Michael Prewitt with a knee. He did

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Speaker 3: not practice, but the Fraser back Cam Hayward got the

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Speaker 3: day off. But that's a typical Thursday thing. Quartel Cordero

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's potentially not gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Yeaheah, Yeah, Okay, that's not bad.

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Speaker 4: No, not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: No. I mean you're coming off a by of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way it should be when you're coming

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this or not, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Bill Barmwell, I didn't click on it, but

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Speaker 1: I did see put together his list of postseason award winners. Okay, and.

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Speaker 3: Going in order on these things, his Coach of the

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Speaker 1: Would think both of them should be in the equation

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Speaker 1: nobody's exceeded expectations more than Washington, right, you have no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Yeah, And again they've already passed their Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Win total, but with a win, the Steelers would move

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Speaker 1: No, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: I think both teams are a little underestimated. But he

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Speaker 1: I got no problem with that either. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: We was talking about it. Yeah, he's done a tremendous job.

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Speaker 4: Number one for him is Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Really, I'm shocked that he's getting the flowers he deserves,

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Speaker 4: He said.

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Speaker 3: It's difficult to poke holes in what Tomlin has done.

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Speaker 3: His defense ranks second points a loud fifteen EPA per play.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers have been blessed to have edge rusher TJ.

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Speaker 3: Joey Porter Junior has continue to play like an upper

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Speaker 3: flashed with big plays. Safety Deshaun Elliott in corner or

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Speaker 3: Dante Jackson have played much better in Pittsburgh than they

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think there's more than just the defense though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's had two different quarterbacks, he said.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tomlin is in his hands on with the offense.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten big the big decisions, right. The Steelers become

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coach of the year type though. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty well written. Obviously, making the switch

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Speaker 1: was not a slam dunk decision. At all.

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Speaker 3: People were arguing back and forth about it for weeks.

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Speaker 3: Of course, right defensive rookie of the year, I would

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Speaker 3: go with Verse. He has three guys. Number three on

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Speaker 4: Beanie Bishop's been fine.

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Speaker 1: He's made some big plays, made some big plays.

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Speaker 4: There's a little recency bias with this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a really bad defensive crop of rookies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was assuming he would, but I don't know. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I say, Mitchell's the only one I'd consider other than Verse.

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Speaker 4: And then number one is Jared Verse.

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Speaker 3: Now he does have three interceptions. You give him credit

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Speaker 4: I have neighbors over. Well. The neighbors has missed some games.

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Speaker 1: I say, miss two games, but he's done more per game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then number one is the guy the Steelers will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean easily on the number one.

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Speaker 3: Defensive player of the year. Okay, at number three, he

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Speaker 3: they're two of seven, two and seven. He's gone without

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Speaker 3: a sack in five of his nine games this year.

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Speaker 3: In some of those games, you wouldn't even know he

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Speaker 1: I remember there was that one game at least. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's still awesome, but I don't I'm but there are

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Speaker 1: guys who are having better seasons. Yeah, I'm shocked he's

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Speaker 1: the big dogs are out Parsons and you know.

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Speaker 3: And once again, since Bill's an analytic guy, he goes well.

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Speaker 3: Nobody else is within two percentage points of his past

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Speaker 3: rush win rate. There's a stat for winning pass rushes.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be my one, but his I mean,

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. Now he's great too, Trey Henderson is fantastic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yes. I don't know if that's enough to not make

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Speaker 1: Yes is number one. Yeah, you know, yes, you're the

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Speaker 3: Some And here's what I don't So he said he

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Speaker 3: And he's part of that too. Of course, this is

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Speaker 1: And that's what it's been turning in because of that.

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Speaker 1: But it's always an edge guy and it's always sacks.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence not being the top three rubs me a little wrong.

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Speaker 3: I would have less problem if it was Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a good run and plays. He's a

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Hendrix is two.

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Speaker 3: But their defensive, their defense stinks, stinks. Offensive Player of

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Speaker 1: Great. I think it's a sake Wanner or Henry.

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Speaker 3: Number two is sake one Barkley, Okay, Number one is

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. Fine, Derrick Henry would be again. I'm I can't.

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Speaker 3: He's my m VP right now. Yeah, I get your

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Speaker 3: everything for that Ravens offense. That's not how the awards

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Speaker 3: ever work anymore. It's how it should work. Who has

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Speaker 1: I mean there were a lot of running backs like

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Speaker 3: He's gonna maybe have two thousand rushing yards and twenty

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Speaker 1: You'll see the difference with them without them.

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Speaker 4: If you want to call MVP, make it.

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Speaker 3: If you want it to be a quarterback every year,

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Speaker 1: See I was want thinking that too, Like should they

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Speaker 1: Most valuable players weird, like kind of like the Henderson conversation.

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Speaker 1: I remember one year I might be wrong on baseball,

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Speaker 1: He was by far the best shortstop in the league.

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Speaker 1: All his numbers were great, and it's like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 3: I could certainly make the argument that Mahomes has been

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Speaker 1: Him, right, his numbers aren't as good as his numbers

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Speaker 1: aren't great. But but if you take him off the

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I could make the argument. I could make a

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the offense night and day.

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Speaker 3: Look look how better they are as a team.

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Speaker 1: Then there's other things to play, there's new coach and stuff,

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Speaker 3: Most valuable Player. Okay, we haven't gotten to this point yet.

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Speaker 4: There we go. So at three, he has Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I mean, his numbers are phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. Wow, okay, number one missing one of my

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Number one he has Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I would have Allen one or two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, take Josh Allen off of that Bill's see where

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, That's what I don't like about the word

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Speaker 3: That's what it should be because who's been every year,

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Speaker 1: Like, but I guess it's not wrong. If it's Mahomes

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Speaker 3: Case, then the running quarterbacks, A running quarterback should win

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Speaker 3: this every year because they're way more. If you're at

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Speaker 3: a thousand yards, you were farm, you're very valuable to

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Speaker 1: Of course, being not more valuable than Brady, you know

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're telling me Joe Burrow is not valuable

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Speaker 1: He should be in the conversation too. Yeah, they don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Goffs and if you put Burrow in

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Speaker 1: And then close to an m VP, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, should Kirk Cousin to be on this list.

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Speaker 3: He's been pretty valuable for Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Not top three, but I mean he's having a great year, right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: of this Lamar is doing what Lamar usually does. Now

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, his pocket passing is better too.

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Speaker 3: Because he's got Derrick Henry. Now you can't drop I mean,

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Speaker 4: Middle of the field. But he won it last year too.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think he should have won it last year.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think anybody deserved it, To be honest, he

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Speaker 3: But then you hear the same argument why TJ want

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Speaker 4: Well, they don't want to give the.

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Speaker 3: Award to the same person a couple of times that

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Speaker 3: I know it's stupid, but that there's there's a set

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Speaker 1: Do you think Lamar is gonna have a tough time repeating?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's his third and five years or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's it's the cheat code, because if

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Speaker 3: it's just okay, he had three thousand passing yards and

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Speaker 3: they go eleven and six. Well, okay, he was pretty

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Speaker 3: valuable for them, But does that make him the most valuable?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's the quarterback probably in the best offense

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Speaker 3: Was it the best offense in the league before they

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the weapons or put it. Take Derrick

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Speaker 3: I mean, tell me who's I'm just saying. I've always I.

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Speaker 4: Get the always been a Lamar guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But if we're just gonna say he's more valuable

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the whole case for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his eighth to me, is the best that's

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Speaker 4: I get that, you know. I think he's.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing that hurts him the most, in

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Speaker 1: I mean, could they be a thirteen win team win

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they get to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they will either. I mean I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: I'll be interested tonight too to see how much he

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Speaker 1: Think that's what the advantage as a Henry too, is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's just interesting. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like Mahomes could still even win the.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean if they they go on, they

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Speaker 3: They're eight no right now and the quarterbacks not listed.

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Speaker 1: be in the conversation. He should be in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Album would be my vote. Probably wins though if they go.

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Speaker 4: If they go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen and two or sixteen and one or seventeen, he's

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Speaker 3: winning MVP one. I don't care what the number.

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Speaker 1: Numbers don't matter as much like Lamar's numbers weren't ridiculous

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, just numbers. Yeah, but nobody's worth insane. Yeah, anyways,

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Speaker 3: let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

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Speaker 3: with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: Matt I was digging around today at some stats from

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Speaker 3: my uh hotly anticipated five for Friday. Yeah, every weekend

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Speaker 3: or every every Friday comes up seven am. For those

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Speaker 3: of you looking for this, uh Friday on Steelers dot

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Speaker 3: Com on Fridays, that's what it's five for Friday. The

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Speaker 3: Steelers have the best red zone defense in the NFL

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Speaker 3: thirty yeah, thirty seven point. Couple of reasons for that.

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Speaker 3: They're allowing two point eight yards per carry in the

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Speaker 3: red zone. It's really good. It's not the best in

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Speaker 3: the league, but it's really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you can't break an eighty yard

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Speaker 1: or right.

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Speaker 3: But you're consistently turning out yards against them. Opposing passing

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Speaker 3: passing games have completed fourteen of thirty five passes for

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Speaker 3: ninety five yards inside of twenty passer rating of forty

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Speaker 3: seven point nine.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mess, it's a really low completion really low.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then if you look at they've they forced six

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Speaker 3: turnovers inside the opposing twenty. Three of tj wat's four

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Speaker 3: forced fumbles this season have come inside the twenty, which

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Speaker 3: is crazy. They also have four red zone interceptions.

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Speaker 1: I think they had a ton of red zone turnovers

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone, that's not sustainable. I can't sustain that.

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Speaker 3: They must there must be something there that they're doing

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Speaker 3: to unlock this stay. And I get so at least

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Speaker 3: I think maybe when they get down close they play

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Speaker 3: more straight up. Hey, we're gonna press man, press man.

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Speaker 1: They have a red zone package on defense, or that

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Speaker 1: they do some different things because they've gotten away with

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Speaker 1: it. It's worked. But they've been really like the most vanilla

484
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Speaker 1: defense in the league in terms of just cover three,

485
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Speaker 1: bring four. Everyone kind of spot drops for their spot.

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Speaker 1: But you can't do that when the field is that confined,

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Speaker 1: and everyone does play more man, and they're very capable

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Speaker 1: of playing man. I also think their team speed shows

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Speaker 1: up more, you know, and it's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when you were in grade school and they're like,

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Speaker 1: these are the molecules in a balloon, but then you

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Speaker 1: heat them up and they start bouncing around faster. That's

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Speaker 1: a red zone to me, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I also here's here's why I think that they're

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Speaker 3: playing more press man.

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Speaker 4: And they don't have the numbers. Yeah, they tell me

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Speaker 4: that they.

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Speaker 1: Do the sniff test Telzy it does.

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Speaker 3: They have nineteen sacks this year as a team, Eighteen

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Speaker 3: of them have come in the red zone. Yeah, that's craziness, right,

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Speaker 3: Which teams as we as we've seen teams are getting

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Speaker 3: the ball out quickly against them defensively, yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: to move the ball down the field, yes, like two

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Speaker 3: point four seconds or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Their pass rush is worse than previous years, but their

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Speaker 1: sack numbers are yeah, you know, for that reason.

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Speaker 3: But then when teams get into the red zone inside

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Speaker 3: the twenty, they're getting sacks because I think opponents are

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Speaker 3: holding the ball more because they're playing more press.

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Speaker 1: Man. Well, the guys aren't as open as quickly against

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Speaker 1: the zones and things like that. Okay, we're gonna sit

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Speaker 1: down in front of the cover three, they're gonna come

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Speaker 1: up and tackle. Everyone's happy. It's a five yard game.

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Speaker 1: Well not in the red zone. No, it's just tighter.

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Speaker 1: And then you're not gonna play off coverage and that

516
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff too. I also think, and again I'm

517
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Speaker 1: sure we could pull out a lot of tape of this,

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Speaker 1: but it's just the sniff test, and obviously we've watched

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Speaker 1: every snap. Minka is closer to the action too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's his deep middle stuff. There's not enough

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Speaker 1: room to be he's deep middle. I mean he's closer

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Speaker 1: to the ten yards off the line of scrimmage. They're

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Speaker 1: also tremendous at batting down passes. It gets a little

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Speaker 1: easier and as the condensed form too, you know, or

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Speaker 1: just a little tighter to you know, complete windows around

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Speaker 1: the Haywards of the world. Then the cover guys, I

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Speaker 1: also say, also have some big play elements to him too,

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Speaker 1: Especially what.

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Speaker 3: If you look at Jaden Daniels in the red zone

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Speaker 3: and inside to ten.

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Speaker 1: And Washington has snapped the ball in the red zone

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Speaker 1: more than any offense in the league.

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Speaker 3: In the red zone, he's eighteen to thirty five. It's

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Speaker 3: a fifty one point four to three percent completion percentage.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere else, he's like over seventy percent.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's kind of the only chink in

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Speaker 1: his armor so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for one hundred and ten yards, he's got six

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Speaker 3: touchdown passes, one interception.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but hey've snapped the ball there more than anybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his passer ratings eighty five point seven. He's over

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Speaker 3: one hundred and ten other everywhere else everywhere else, right,

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Speaker 3: actually higher than even than that, because if you put

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Speaker 3: these go into his overall passer rating numbers, when he's

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Speaker 3: inside the opposing ten, nine or seventeen for forty four

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Speaker 3: yards now, you're not going to get many passing yards

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Speaker 3: down today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, things have to be a little different,

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Speaker 1: and it is harder for any quarterback. You're passing the pace.

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Speaker 1: It's like being under pressure versus not. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be worse, but it's how much worse is

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Speaker 1: the situation. So it's one of the reasons they kick

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Speaker 1: some make short field goals. Yeah, you know they've kicked

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Speaker 1: it down there. And I'm sure you know it's year one.

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Speaker 1: His first season has been unbelievably you know, great, you know,

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Speaker 1: he looks like a big time hit. But I would

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Speaker 1: bet whenever the off season rolls around, what's on my

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Speaker 1: to do list? Well, I need to work on red

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Speaker 1: zone stuff. Things here happen quicker than I'm ready for

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Speaker 1: some degree, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you look at his overall completion

562
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Speaker 3: percentage just seventy one point five percent, you take the

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Speaker 3: take those red zone numbers out of it, he's probably

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Speaker 3: over seventy five percent, I'm sure, yeah, you know, And

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Speaker 3: a lot of it's they do a lot of there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of screens Washington and a lot of sideways

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Speaker 3: passing a lot of So to me, this week is

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Speaker 3: going to be about tackling the catch and then they'll

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Speaker 3: take some shots. They don't take a ton of shots.

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Speaker 3: Last week he was three for three on deep balls.

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Speaker 3: On deep balls. Overall, his deep ball passing has not

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Speaker 3: been outstanding.

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Speaker 1: No, and as good players McLaurin is, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a great home run threat either, you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: their other receivers are fine, but none of them are

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Speaker 1: Pickings or Mike Williams in his prime, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, big time, big body, deep threat, go up

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Speaker 1: and get it guys either. But I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: a great deep passer at your point either.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other thing about this is he has two hundred

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Speaker 3: and four passing attempts in the shotgun. He has twenty

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Speaker 3: four under center. Okay, yeah, when they're when he when

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Speaker 3: he's under center, they're not probably not throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: I would think. I mean it's probably fourth and one,

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Speaker 1: third and one things like that. Yeah. Side note too,

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Speaker 1: I just dawned on me there. They're eleven for eleven

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Speaker 1: on fourth ouns. Yeah, I mean it's like pretty impressive. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So there's there's a lot of stuff there, the RPO stuff.

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Speaker 3: You think, well, they're a big RPO team, He's only

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Speaker 3: got forty one pass attempts on our PO.

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Speaker 1: Somebody in are are it's always a hard thing to

593
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, But so.

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Speaker 3: Many in our comments today said, well, obviously, because we

595
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Speaker 3: were talking about the sack stuff yesterday, well it run

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Speaker 3: pass RPO.

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Speaker 1: They could.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna take the quarterback and run the ball with

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Speaker 3: a running back. I'm like, it's called an RPO. It's

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Speaker 3: a run pass option. They can also throw the football

601
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Speaker 3: option into that. No doubt Ben used to run the RPO.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't running it.

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Speaker 1: Ten Brady did. I mean those guys right their offense

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Speaker 1: though I know he's changed things, but Kingsbury their head,

605
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Speaker 1: their offenseve coordinator. He was Texas Tech, run and shoot,

606
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Speaker 1: spread everything, a lot of horzontal passing, you know, use

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Speaker 1: the width of the field a lot, And they definitely

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Speaker 1: have a lot of those concepts.

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Speaker 3: Still, yeah, getting rid of the football under two point

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Speaker 3: five seconds, he's uh one hundred and one of one

611
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one. He's got thirty incompletions. He's completing

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Speaker 3: seventy seven percent of his passes, but for only eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty two yards.

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Speaker 4: Again, those quick sideways pass.

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Speaker 1: Quick sideways passes a lot of first reads design. I

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Speaker 1: mean that that also speaks to coaching. I mean that

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Speaker 1: means your first reads coming open. Yeah, you know, but

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Speaker 1: he's also a quick decision making. Yeah, six point seven

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Speaker 1: yards per attempt. When that happens two point five or

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Speaker 1: more seconds, he's sixty two of ninety seven. That's a

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Speaker 1: sixty about a sixty four percent completion percentage. It's been

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Speaker 1: sacked fourteen times in those situations.

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Speaker 3: Overall.

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Speaker 4: If you look at his time to pass is over

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Speaker 4: three seconds.

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Speaker 1: And I say it's pretty high. Yeah. Now, some of

627
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Speaker 1: those guys will have the rare one that screws you up.

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Speaker 1: That's five.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the hail Mary, the he ran around

630
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Speaker 3: for eight seconds back there because they rush two guys.

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Speaker 1: But once you play a thousand snaps, those go away,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean if he evens out. Yeah, but

633
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Speaker 1: you're you're not wrong. He is not a He's not Rogers, No,

634
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Speaker 1: and Rodgers is. They couldn't play the position any differently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so it's not quite fifty to fifty

636
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Speaker 3: split on the sideway stuff.

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Speaker 4: And then him holding the ball a little bit, but

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Speaker 4: you want him to hold the ball.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, one hundred percent. I think you

640
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Speaker 1: want to hit him. I think you want him to

641
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Speaker 1: hold the ball. You want to take away first read

642
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: or come up and take you know, screens and bubbles

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Speaker 1: and things like that out, or they might not even

644
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Speaker 1: kill you either. I mean, yeah, bubbles and tunnel screens

645
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: and things like that. A lot of desperate offenses do that.

646
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Speaker 1: That's not what this is. I mean, this is a

647
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, but they don't usually result in big gains either.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, was asked in the comments.

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Speaker 3: And you know, do I see any similarities to between

650
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Speaker 3: this team and Houston of last year and other than

651
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: they both have a rookie quarterback, I don't see a ton.

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Speaker 1: Say new coach destroyed expectations. I bet Houston by now

653
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Speaker 1: beat their over under wind total too, because we all,

654
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Speaker 1: i mean their quarterback, were both second picking the draft

655
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: and running away with offensive rookie of the year. But

656
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: not in terms of how they're constructed. No, you know

657
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. Houston was much more of a youth

658
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: movement too. They didn't bring in the arches and wagoners

659
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: and those type of dudes.

660
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an.

661
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: Old veteran, more veteran team and defensively Houston was better

662
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: then yeah, yeah, yeah, this Washington team is.

663
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Will Anderson's and speed and defensive minded head coach.

664
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Not that there's isn't. Yeah, I mean the institute that

665
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco style defense in Houston. I mean there are similarities,

666
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: and that perception going into the year vastly underrated them.

667
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: It's an organization very much heading in the right direction

668
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: with the quarterback that the fan base should be thrilled about.

669
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: But the way they play, no, and I think these

670
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: guys run the ball better.

671
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

672
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I think their offensive line is a lot more physical.

673
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: It's a lot more Hogs NFC East, you know, the

674
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: type of mentality to it.

675
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: In the two games that he has lost this year,

676
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: hasn't thrown an interception.

677
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: He's run interceptionally a month.

678
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: He's got only two touchdown passes though, and no interceptions

679
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: that the two interceptions that he does have both and wins.

680
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: The only difference between those is when you start looking

681
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: at yards per attempt in the losses and it's about

682
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: a yard different, a little over a yard difference in

683
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 3: the losses versus the wins. Who did uh what was it, Uh,

684
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: Baltimore and.

685
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Somebody very early that we didn't bat an eye.

686
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: It was Baltimore and Tampa.

687
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah.

688
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: In Baltimore, which his hemorrhage yards and through the air

689
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: this season, he had two sixty nine against them, which

690
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: for them is below average.

691
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: That's below his average and it's below what they give up. Yeah,

692
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, you think it could be more.

693
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: Tampa. He had one hundred and eighty four passing yards

694
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: in that game.

695
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: That's a pretty bad defense. That was the first first

696
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: game of the year.

697
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: The first game ever, So maybe you throw that one out. Yeah, but.

698
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what.

699
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what to expect with this one.

700
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: In terms, I'm having a hard time doing predictions. I

701
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: do think it's going to be close. There are some

702
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: things that really favor the Steelers, like historical stuff, Tomlin

703
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: off a bye, Tomlin, verus rookie quarterbacks, things like that.

704
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: But every game is different, you know what I mean,

705
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: Like those trends mean stuff. But that's not enough just

706
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: to say, oh, Washington's got no chance. You know, Washington's

707
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: had a really good year and they think they're very,

708
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: very dangerous. But I also, deep down, I'm not just

709
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: saying this their opponent, because I think we do power

710
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: ranks every Tuesday. I think there's still a smidge or overrated,

711
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think they're a contender. I

712
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: think they're going the right direction, but they have holes.

713
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: So how about this, So this game is obviously in Washington.

714
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: His completion percent is at home, even though they're four

715
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: and oh is sixty three point eight percent. It's seventy

716
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: six point on the road.

717
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's one outlier that he have his

718
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: worst game at home or his best game on the road.

719
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, because they're such small sample.

720
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: Size, and it's four games.

721
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: He's four and oh, he's only thrown two touchdown passes

722
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: at home. His passer rate is ninety three point two

723
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: at home. He's been sacked ten times at home. He's

724
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: he's only been sacked seven times on the road. That's

725
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: in five games, one extra game.

726
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of any legit reasons for that, though,

727
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, did they happen to have bad weather at

728
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: home and not on the road. I don't think so yet.

729
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: Well, then you got to start looking at who the

730
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: who did they play?

731
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, in those particular games ones I mean, I know

732
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: they just played the Giants.

733
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: So the road game or the home games of Chicago,

734
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: Carolina Cleveland.

735
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: They struggled against and the Giants, I mean they won

736
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: it with a hail Mary. That was not a pretty game.

737
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: But now he only played I think he only threw

738
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: two passes against Carolina before he got hurt in that game. Daniels, Yeah,

739
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: that was that was mostly Mariota. They scored forty points

740
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: to Marcus Meriota against Carolina Carolina, Right.

741
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: The system is quite good too, by the way.

742
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but against Cleveland, which is a similar defense they

743
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: put up, they were They won that game thirty four thirty.

744
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: But he was fourteen to twenty five for two and

745
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: thirty eight yards in a touchdown.

746
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I could see pressure being reflective in that too.

747
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they sacked him three times. He did have eleven

748
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: year rushes for eighty two yards, so.

749
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: He got away. Yeah, Yeah, he had some big ones probably.

750
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: In fact, that's the second most rushing yards he's had

751
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: this season. The most came against Tampa in the opener,

752
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: when he had sixteen for eighty eight and two touchdowns.

753
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: At that point too, he was just talking and running. Yeah,

754
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: anytime that there something went.

755
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: Wrong against Baltimore again that like style defense. It was

756
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: twenty four of thirty five, sixty eight point six percent

757
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: completion percentage, two sixty nine two touchdowns. He only ran

758
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: six times for twenty two yards against.

759
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: The Ravens and nobody's running on them every passing on Yeah,

760
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a lot to take away

761
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: from his splits.

762
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: He also played Cincinnati. They beat Cincinnati. He was twenty

763
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: one of twenty three. Well, we know Cincinnati's defense is

764
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: an't very good, but I mean that's why his accuracies.

765
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: These are the three AFS or all three AFC North opponents,

766
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

767
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure the Steels are watching a lot of

768
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: those three games.

769
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: They know the personnel and what's how they like to

770
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 3: approach things. And plus at Baltimore and Cleveland games were

771
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: back to back a month ago.

772
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think there will be some Lamar rules.

773
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: I think hitting him is important, you know, even if

774
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: it means he pitches the running back and that guy's freer.

775
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: I'd rather have.

776
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: I'd rather have Robinson running with the ball, yeah, yeah,

777
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: than him.

778
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Especially if Robinson doesn't play, and then non Eckler guys

779
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: to I mean, they're they're not great Rodriguez and those dudes,

780
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: but I want to hit him at every chance possible.

781
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: I would like to see them do more creative stuff

782
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: on defense with a rookie quarterback, too, more of the

783
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: robber stuff we've seen, you know in previous years, stuff

784
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe you do hit the flats a little

785
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: heavier in terms of looking to take away the quick hitters,

786
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: quick game and that kind of stuff, you know, make them,

787
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: make them hold it. Yeah, I don't think he'll blitz

788
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: them a lot.

789
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: And there, I mean, the receivers are are They're good.

790
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: Receive they're fine, They're they're fine, They're fine, a.

791
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Real good one, and everyone else is okay.

792
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Steelers' cornerbacks have been pretty good tackling

793
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: this year.

794
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Very on the edges, yeah, very. They don't get a

795
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: ton after the catch, yeah, I mean it's something. I mean,

796
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: it's not like that's not where it's all coming from.

797
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: A lot of it is boom, get a few. They're

798
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: big after the catch guys. Eklar, yes, and he's not

799
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: been a big tackle breaker, but he's been a big

800
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: make juke people in space type of guy. And get away.

801
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: And he's still got the speed, he still has the explosiveness.

802
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: He's had a good year.

803
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he really has. Yeah. Good for him.

804
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: But if Robinson doesn't play, don't expect him to be

805
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: like the bellcow.

806
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: No, it'll be McNichols in there.

807
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Ye. I haven't forgotten. McNichols was in camp with the

808
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: Steelers a couple of years ago.

809
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: I didn't remember that either. Yeah, Rodriguez played a lot

810
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: at the end of that game too.

811
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

812
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

813
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

814
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back

815
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: with more right after this.

816
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

817
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

818
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

819
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 4: Welcome back on Dale LOLLI.

820
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

821
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network.

822
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: And Matta mentioned that midway point of the season.

823
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

824
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: NFL dot Com has made his NFL Playoff prediction, predicting

825
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: the eight division winners six wild card teams at the

826
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: midway part of the season. So what they do is

827
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: they pull their however many writers this is, I can't

828
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: even count that high, but they got a bunch. And

829
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: in the AFC East they have a unanimous pick the

830
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills can't argue with that whatsoever.

831
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: In the AFC, the.

832
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: Default, I mean, just the way the Jets in Miami. Yeah,

833
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: the seasons have gone.

834
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: They have twenty seven voters because twenty five voters voted

835
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: for the Ravens. Two voters voted for the Steelers to

836
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: win the division.

837
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Totally get it, Okay, makes sense.

838
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: AFC South unanimous pick Houston. Yeah, but they're not very

839
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: good fault Yeah, yeah, they're not very good.

840
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like there's an opportunity there if you were

841
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or you know, if you didn't fall on your face.

842
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not as good as Bills, you know,

843
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: like in that situation.

844
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: The AFC West, that's one hundred percent, right, Yeah, another

845
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: unanimous pick. So three of the four division winners unanimous

846
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: in the AFC.

847
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Is because so many of those teams fell off. I mean,

848
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: can't harp on this enough. I mean, all of our

849
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: preseason thoughts and talks about the AFC, Well, Browns could

850
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: be right around five hundred in the playoff mix. Maybe

851
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: the Jags, the Colts, definitely, the Jets, the Dolphins, you know,

852
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: none of them, none of them, you know, they're all bad.

853
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: The crazy thing is, now, I understand two people picked

854
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: the Steelers to win their division, but the team, the

855
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: wildcard team that got the most points with nine votes

856
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: is the fifth seed, twelve for the sixth seed, six

857
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: for the seventh seed was the Chargers with fifty seven points.

858
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: So I guess they had to seed them as well.

859
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got points based on what seed you were. Okay,

860
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: so the Steelers were second. Twelve votes for the five seed,

861
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: so they had more more fifth seed votes, eight votes

862
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 3: for the sixth seed, four votes for the seventh seed. Yeah,

863
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: things would have to go really bad for them to

864
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: be the seventh seed at this point, I think.

865
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: I agree, you know, but the two that they got

866
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: for the first doesn't help their causes to see there,

867
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, which is weird because well, here's the thing,

868
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: voted you too high.

869
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: So if you add that up, then I remember they

870
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: had two votes as the ones for the one, twelve

871
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: votes for the five seed. Eight. That's twenty four votes

872
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: for the seventh seed. That's that's twenty six votes. There's

873
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: twenty seven people, so somebody doesn't even have them making

874
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: a Yeah.

875
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: I bet there's still a Jets or Bengals lover out there,

876
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: someone talking about their playoffs. I would imagine people as

877
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: looking the second half of the schedule and be like, Oh,

878
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: they're only gonna win one more game, two more games,

879
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

880
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: That would be most people might be on drugs.

881
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Clifton's on there twice, right, I mean, since

882
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: he's not as good as they used to be.

883
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: Five and one in the division. Last year five and

884
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: one went three and three and three in the division

885
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: a year before that. They haven't had a losing record

886
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: in the division in this decade.

887
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if it starts this year too, not

888
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: because the status of those teams. It's just just how

889
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: these are going to be good in the division every year? Right?

890
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Ohio teams are.

891
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: Down the third most team in the AFC.

892
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: They got votes Cincinnati with thirty eight points or thirty

893
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: eight votes.

894
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: I think they'd be my vote too, But I think

895
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose to Night. I just don't have any

896
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: faith the night.

897
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: They're in trouble.

898
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: They're in huge trouble. I mean, that's another conference loss,

899
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: which is the big problem for them because I don't

900
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win division. They tie breakers that go

901
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: their way, and they're they're tie breakers are terrible. Yeah,

902
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: but who's the seventh seed? I mean, I understand Denver

903
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: might hold on. I mean, they're they're the best where

904
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: they sit right now, but I don't think they're very good. No, Still,

905
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for the Jets.

906
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: Then you got Baltimore with six points. The two teams,

907
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: the two people that didn't vote for them to win

908
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: the division voted for them.

909
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone had them in the postseason.

910
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: Denver got five points, Miami got one point, The Jets

911
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: got one point.

912
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Who's better chance the Jets are Miami to go to

913
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Jets have one more win.

914
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: I'd say Miami.

915
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like where the Jets are at.

916
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: I don't like either, Yeah, don't. I don't think either

917
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 3: one of them make it. That's the Yeah, the problem.

918
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers are sitting pretty I think the

919
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: Chargers are in good shape. I think the Steelers are

920
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: in good shape. Yeah, and I'm not ready to give

921
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: up on the Bengals, I know.

922
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna lose to Night. I mean

923
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: that's what I had the LEMA. Yeah, if you win

924
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: the Night Wow, Okay, now you're really in good shape

925
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: considering the because Denver could lose three in a row.

926
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I think they have a really

927
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: hard schedule or.

928
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: The next three or tough.

929
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Chargers have a very easy schedule.

930
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just I mean, the AFC is not deep

931
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: this year.

932
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: No, it's not particularly good. I mean, be really nice

933
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: of course, goes. That's saying be great to win the

934
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: division because your opponent might not be very good, right,

935
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because Houston's probably gonna be

936
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: the four seed. At least they at least they're playing

937
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: like the fore seed. They're playing like the worst division leads.

938
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, far.

939
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: But I mean but Nico's coming back.

940
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, which to me is why if you're

941
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: a Steeler fan you want Cincinnati to win tonight?

942
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I yes, so yeah, I mean, just what's

943
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: your best path to the super Bowl? Yeah?

944
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: And remember Baltimore is already lost to Cleveland, right, so

945
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: if you if Cincinnati, They've already beaten Cincinnati once, So

946
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: if Cincinnati splits with them, they're not going to do

947
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: any better than a split with Cleveland. If the Steelers

948
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: then split with them and they finished with the same record,

949
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: Steelers win the division.

950
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had a long conversation, not long, short conversation

951
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: last night with Tom Offerman and Tim Benz. Who do

952
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: we want to win Thursday? Because I think there's a

953
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: side for both. Yeah, because the.

954
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: Bengals either way, you're gonna be happy. Yeah, as long

955
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: as you win on Sunday, as long.

956
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: As you win, right, Yeah, but it would be nice

957
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: to get a lead on the Ravens. Yeah. I mean

958
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: I also think though, if the Bengals are pretty if

959
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: their season goes continues to go this way, they're gonna

960
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: be pretty easy prey in Week eighteen. Yeah, there's sounds

961
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: of you know, what are they playing for? What do

962
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: they care? You know?

963
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: In the NFC, Philadelphia got nineteen votes to win the division,

964
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: Washington got eight.

965
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I would vote for Philadelphia.

966
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: Detroit a unanimous pick in the North, which is kind

967
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 3: of surprise.

968
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: Shocked a little bit. Yeah, but they're really sitting pretty Yeah.

969
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: They will Yeah.

970
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: In the NFC South, the Falcons are unanimous pace.

971
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm sort of lean that way too. I mean, the

972
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Bucks are good, they're a good story, but they're swimming

973
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: up stream well.

974
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: And remember they swept Tampa Bay.

975
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: That's huge. Yeah. Also, if you look at Atlanta schedule,

976
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of laughable.

977
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they've realistically, they've got like a two game lead.

978
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: Good point. In the NFC West, I bet the Niners

979
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: got the most.

980
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: Niners got twelve, the Rams got twelve, and the Cardinals

981
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: got three. Nobody voted for Seattle.

982
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: I would put them in that order too.

983
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: The wildcard teams. Washington got forty six votes to lead

984
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: the wild Cards.

985
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty nice shape right now too.

986
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: Green Green Bay got forty one points.

987
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if they're not a playoff team.

988
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: Minnesota got thirty eight points.

989
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: I think I put them in over Tampa or the

990
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Rams anyone else in the West.

991
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Eagles got twenty one points with the people.

992
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

993
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: San Francisco got nine points, So there's some people out there.

994
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: Remember they only got twelve votes to win the division.

995
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: They only got six more votes.

996
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: Who's that? San Francisco Francisco.

997
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so overall they got six eighteen votes, so not nine.

998
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: People don't have the forty nine Ers making the playoffs.

999
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: I understand it. It's a tougher road to road and

1000
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: they're far from guaranteed winning their division. Arizona got four points,

1001
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay got two points, the Bears got one.

1002
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Bears were kind of in this two weeks ago.

1003
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 4: Now not so much.

1004
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially after that hil Mary and looking bad this

1005
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: past week, and I think they get fired.

1006
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: I can't win on the road on a Sunday.

1007
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1008
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: Oh and fifteen under ever Flus on Sundays on.

1009
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: The road. It's crazy, It's crazy. This is a much

1010
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: bigger conversation than we have time for at the end

1011
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: of the hour. But there might be a lot of

1012
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: coaching changes. I mean I can make the case for

1013
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: ten I bet yeah, I mean including Chicago.

1014
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Let's get to a break. He is

1015
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

1016
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,680
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1017
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,080
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1018
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