1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Ruby when as this world a Marco went and this 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: is Amazing Wildlife, where we explore unique stories of wildlife 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: from around the world and uncover fascinating animal facts. 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: This podcast is in production with Iheartradios, Ruby Studio and 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: San Diego Zoo Wild lef Alliance, an international nonprofit conservation 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: organization which oversees the San Diego Zoo and the Safari 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: Parkme Man, everyone, I am having the best morning, as 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: you probably all guess. I'm my favorite place of the 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: entire world. I'm at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park. 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: This is a town where I grew up in Escondido, 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be talking about something really unique. It's 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: not a bird. I know a lot of you thinking 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking to bird, but no, it's actually a mammal. 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: But also I wanted to reference something really fast because 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're wondering. You know, you're probably wonder why 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: you don't hear Rick along with this conversation. I just 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: wanted to update everyone. Rick actually won't be joining me 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: on the remaining episodes of this season, but you know 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: he is amazing and wish him all the best. I 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: think the soundcrewk could probably quein some applause for m 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Let's get some ride of applause for Rick. Oh yeah, 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: and so well deserved. But don't worry everyone, because I 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: got you. We got some wicked adventures for the remaining 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: part of this season, and today I am actually in 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: a part where most guests probably have never seen before, 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: at the Safari Park. So I am Well, first, I'll 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: talk about the human that I'm with right now. So Ami, 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: got do me a favorite? Can you tell me your 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: name and your role here at the Safari Park. 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Sam. I'm one of the wildlife care specialists 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: that takes care of the girl is. 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: Here at the start Park. 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, Sam, thank you so much for taking 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: the time. I super appreciate it. I guess it sounds 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: like I'm whispering a little bit because this place, I think, 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: just like it gives you such a vibe, you know, 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: this place that we're rat Can you describe for our listeners, 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: like where exactly are we in the Safari Park right now? 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: So right now we are actually behind the scenes what 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: we call our bachelor habitat. It's very behind the scenes, 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: so pretty much the only way that you can either 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: see it is going on whenever behind the scenes tour 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: or sometimes if you're up in the balloon, you can 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: actually see the habitat all the way over here. 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that. So in the balloon safari 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: you can get on that and see some of the habitat. 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see part of the habitat. I've never 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: done it. I'm a little bit of afraid of height. 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: But some of my other colleagues have done it, and 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: when they went up there, they're like, oh, my gosh, 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: did you know that you could see the bachelor habitat 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: up there? 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: I totally get the phobias, my friend. For me, it's 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: a cubicle, to be honest with you. So that's why 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm so stoked here. And you know, to describe it 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: a little bit too for our listener. So we're in 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: an off site area that Sam was mentioning there is 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: a tour involved here, right, that you were mentioning that 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: guests can come and actually experience this really unique habitat. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, some of our ultimate tours as well as 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: our behind the scenes tours. You guys get to come 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 3: by here and get to drive right past our guerrillas. 63 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: When you get to see them. 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you go out into the Safaris on the 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: caravan Safari wait by Shafaris, Right, you go on the caravans, 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: you do get cruise back. 67 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they cruise by really quick. 68 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: Unfortunately those guys don't stop, but you do sometimes get 69 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: to see a quick glance of our bachelor habitat. Oh. 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: Actually, Sam, that brings up a good point too, that 71 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: there are some tours that go past this particular part 72 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: of the safari park. But you also because you get 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: immersed in so many other senses, you know, because for instance, 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: for gorillas, for me, you're gonna lot, but this is 75 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: actually growing up here since I was sixteen. It's one 76 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: of my favorite smells of the s it's a gorillas now, 77 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: I know it's heavy testosterone smell, especially when we're talking 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: about the boys here, right for sure. Its right. So 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: if you're in a Wildlife Safari tour or to your point, 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: the Ultimate tours, you'll be able to not only possibly 81 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: see one of these handsome gorillas, but also smell these 82 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: amazing animals too. 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: For sure. 84 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes we can definitely tell when the boys are a 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: little bit more rallied up. They're going either you know, 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: some testosterone surges. We can smell them from outside their buildings. 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: We can from even just driving up. We're like, ooh, 88 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: we can tell it's gonna be a fun day today 89 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: because we can tell that the boys are all around, it's. 90 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Going to be a y Oh, that's interesting. I didn't 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: know it peaks sometimes considering their behavior. But you know, 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: before we get deep into the gorilla information, we're going 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: to talk about now, I'm sure maybe there's someone in 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: the world friend who like, never even heard of a gorilla. 95 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Can you describe what a gorilla is? What makes them unique? 96 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: So gorillas are part of the Grade eight family. 97 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: These guys are super I like to say they are 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 3: the jock of the Grade eight family. 99 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: They are a whole muscle. 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: They sometimes, you know, they think and they react with 101 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: the big bangs, loud sounds. These guys are just super 102 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: docile though, you know, especially some of our older ones Winston. 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: And oh yeah, Winston. 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 3: And kim Me definitely. You know, as they get older, 105 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: they kind of become the grandparents. 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 4: They come up a little bit slower. 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: When we also get our y little youngsters like Leslie, 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: who just turned nine. I'll call her the little baby 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: because she is the youngest one of our troop, okay, 110 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: and she's super playful. She will run around with some 111 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: of the wildlife care specialists kind of doing a little 112 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: bit of a chase and behind the scenes areas or 113 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: before we open to the public and have visitors come by, 114 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: we'll run in the front and she'll chase us back 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: and forth. 116 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: On the habitat. I've seen her move around. It's really 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: super shoot. Yeah. In fact, actually, since we're talking some 118 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: of the personalities and names, could you say how many 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: gorillas are thriving here at the Safari Park and their 120 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: names if you could? 121 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: Yep. 122 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: So we have eleven gorilla's total eleven. 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 124 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: And our bachelor habitat we have five boys, so we 125 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: have Franken Monroe okay, and then what we have we 126 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: call the Bronx Boys, so we have Najemba, Mconzie and Mazzani. 127 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 128 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: They actually came to us last November from the Bronx Zoo. 129 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Oh. That's really cool. 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: Nice, yeah, really cool watching them. They're a little bit 131 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: younger than Franken Monroe, So Franken just turned seventeen, Monroe 132 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: is fourteen, and then Najemba is ten. He just turned 133 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: ten recently, and then Mconzie is also ten, and then 134 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: Mazzani is eleven. 135 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow. And in case maybe our listeners don't know 136 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: that there's two habitats with gorillas here at this historic park, right, 137 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: so you just referenced we call it the bachelor habitat. 138 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Is that a going to call it a bachelor habitat 139 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: because only the bachelor's live here. And then our main 140 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: habitat are our family troop Gorilla. 141 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Forest, right, Gorilla Florest. Guess can actually walk up and 142 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: check it out on foot. 143 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: Yes, at Gorilla Forest, we have six grillas there. So 144 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: we have Paul Don he's the silverback of that troop. 145 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: You can definitely tell him because he's the largest. He 146 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: has that silver back. Usually you can check him out, 147 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: and he's most of the time sleeping, if not eating. 148 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: That's usually his two favorite activities is sleeping and eating. 149 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't blame him. 150 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: That's my favorite activities as well as Then we have Jessica, Cammy, 151 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: Leslie Amani and Joe Ann and all of those are females. 152 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: Right, And there's we were talking about it before we 153 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: started recording. There's some relations, right, some familia ties. Going 154 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: on cently right, can you reference what's happening with Frank 155 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: and Paul Don specifically? 156 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Frank and Paul Don are father's son, So 157 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Paul Down is Frank's dad. 158 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 159 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: And then another tie is Cammy is actually Paul Don's mother. 160 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: WHOA. 161 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: So Cammy is Frank's grandma. 162 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: Will And she's I think she's my personal favorite. I 163 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: gotta say, she's so. 164 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: Cute, so many people love her. 165 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: You can definitely tell her because she has the biggest belly, 166 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: you know, And I. 167 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 4: Mean she's our grandma Cammy. 168 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, after forty seven years, gravity kind of 169 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: takes over a little bit. You get a few extra sweets, 170 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: you know, your metabolism slows down a little bit. 171 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 4: And that's okay. 172 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: I feel some parents right now like not in their 173 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: heads up and down, like we all feel about Yeah, 174 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: we totally care. Oh I love that, And you know, 175 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of listeners are were too. But 176 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: there's a uniqueness between Frank and Monroe because if I'm 177 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: a mistaken Monroe was born here at the Safari Park, right, ye, 178 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: But Frank was not right down at the San Diego Zoo. 179 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 180 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: So Frank was actually born down at the San Diego Zoo, 181 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: and like you said, Monroe was born here. So in 182 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: the gorilla world, you're gonna typically have one adult male 183 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: known as a silver back, all of his girlfriends and 184 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: then all of their offsprings. And so once males get 185 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: to a certain age, they start becoming sexually curious, they 186 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: start causing problems. 187 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: They usually kind of get booted out. 188 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: Of the truth, right, you're talking like maybe comparing not 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: to directly compare with the human beings, but like the teenagers, right, 190 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: you know. 191 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: So typically like you know, many people go off to college. 192 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: It's kind of like going like that. So typically males 193 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: around the same age, usually between eight and twelve, will 194 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: kind of get the boot. They usually will stay satellite 195 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: for their troop for a little while out in Africa, 196 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: so they'll be able to watch and learn a little bit, 197 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: but eventually they will go off on their own, just 198 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: form that bachelor troop. 199 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh like so maybe creating a little distance, right, which 200 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of the kids listening around like okay, 201 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: totally get that, right, but so a little adjacent to 202 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: the main family, But eventually they're going to move off, right, 203 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: And you mentioned earlier silverback, and I think you mentioned 204 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: black back. Can you define that a little bit more 205 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: for people? 206 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: So, yeah, so silverback is just a fun term to 207 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: refer to a fully grown mature adult, male. 208 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: Only male, not female only male. Well, you're saying silverback, 209 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: people are picturing like silver color in the back of 210 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: a gorilla. Is that kind of what you're talking about. 211 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: So as they do mature, their back does become a 212 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: little bit more silver, but not the second that it matures. 213 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: It's kind of like when men get beards. 214 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: You know a lot of times, oh man, I feel that, well, 215 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: they get a little bit straggly. 216 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: They don't have a full they're not fully mature. 217 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Middle Squad tried to grow that mustache. You guys, it 218 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: was super embarrassing. But hey, you know, to your point, 219 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: it happens. 220 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: It happens. 221 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like one day you wake up 222 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: and your beard was fully there. It's kind of the 223 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: same way with them, they kind of fill out a 224 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: little bit more. For instance, Frank, you know, he started 225 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: showing some of that silver back. But the large part 226 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: on top of their head is called a saginal crest, 227 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: and as they mature more, that actually grows larger. 228 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: Oh, actually, I'm looking at it right now, starting to 229 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: rout you. But I'm looking Frank, I see what they're 230 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: talking about. I can see the grayish silver hair on 231 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: his back, and you're right, I want to call it 232 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: like the top of his head. Is that the Okay? 233 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: But can you say that phrase again? And it expands 234 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: it gets bigger. 235 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: A saginal crest. 236 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 237 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: So if you look at some of our younger boys, 238 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: they kind of have more of a smooth head, almost 239 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: kind of similar to the females. But as they go 240 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: through that maturity, they start to get that large sagital crest. 241 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: It's kind of like an Adam's apple for a boy. 242 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's a Coyd think about it. In fact, when 243 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: I see him, I want to say, like, is he 244 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: pauled in him? I see some similar features, right for sure? 245 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: When Paul came to us from the zoo, it was 246 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: crazy how similar Frank and Paul Don looks right. Yeah, 247 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: And not only that, they act very similar to. 248 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: To say, some of their movements too, a little like 249 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Papa vibes. 250 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, I didn't realize how similar they were 251 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: until you know, Paul Don came and even Frank has 252 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: that super long, lushious hair on his forearms, very similar. 253 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: To Paul Don as well. 254 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: If you ever check him out a gorilla forest, you've 255 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: got to see all of his long, lush his forearm 256 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: hair and you know his leg hair as well too. 257 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Now there's so much to talk about. 258 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: Can we go back a little bit about gorilla natural behavior? 259 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: So like where we're gonna find gorillas, Like what gorillas 260 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: do you compare to? Because you mentioned great apes, right, 261 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: so maybe people think the orangutan and Asia as an example, 262 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: but they're very different, right, this is more of a 263 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: social great ape. 264 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: Yes, So these guys they live in what we call troops. 265 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: They live in all different parts of Central Africa. So 266 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: there's actually four different subspecies of gorillas. 267 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: Or okay, here we have Western Lowland gorillas Western Milie. 268 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: So actually throughout pretty much almost every zoo that you 269 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: will go to, you'll only find Western Lowland. Oh there's 270 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: only one zoo that has mountain gerrillas. 271 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow, really, you know I was looking it up 272 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: on the way down here, Sam, And it was kind 273 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: of sad too to hear, like they're all critically endangered, 274 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: but I'd found out that the Mountain girl is endangered, 275 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: so kind of a step in the right direction a 276 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: little bit, you know. But they're all really hurting for 277 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: a lot of different reasons, right yeah. 278 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: They are. 279 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: Unfortunately a lot of it is due to human animal conflict, poaching, 280 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: as well as habitat loss. 281 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And you know, we talked about this because 282 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, we're San Diego Zoo wad the Lions. We 283 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: have our conservation centers around the world, and we always 284 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: say in that conservation always begins with human beings, right, 285 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: So sure when we go to these places and maybe 286 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: the Amazon or Australia or Asia Africa, you know, we 287 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: have to work alongside the communities that are living with 288 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: these animals, right. We have to listen, we've got to 289 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: respect traditions, right yeah. And it's really amazing the work 290 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: that we do. In fact, we mentioned the four subspecies, 291 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: so we said the eastern Lowland gorilla right, the west they're. 292 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: In Lowland gorilla, mountain gorillas, and then the cross River. 293 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: Guerrilla right yeah. And we're doing work specifically, I believe 294 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: with the western little land gorilla in Africa. I believe 295 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: it's not mistaken. 296 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: So we actually just started partnering with Safe Gorilla. So 297 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: it's an amazing organization. Okay, stands for saving Animals from extinction. 298 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Oh and if I'm not mistaken, this is a program 299 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: within what's referred to as AZYA or the American Association 300 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: of Zoos and Aquariums. Right, yeah, is that correct? 301 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: So a bunch of zoos that have gorillas throughout the country, 302 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: we all kind of work together. 303 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that way we can. 304 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: You know, our big campaign that we did this year 305 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: was Gorilla's on the line our cell phone recycling. 306 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: Oh whoa, there's a connection between Oh don't be sorry, 307 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm excited. There's a connection between cell phones and gorillas. Yeah, 308 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: what is that? What's going on with that? 309 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: So a big reason for habitat loss is there's a 310 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: lot of mining that goes on and where gorillas habitat. 311 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Oh so a lot of the mining they're looking for 312 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: this mineral called cold tan. 313 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: Cold it's a mineral. 314 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: That's in your cell phones, your iPads, your tablets that 315 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: keeps your systems from overheating or any of those electronics 316 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: from overheating. 317 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: That's a lot of stuff then I would imagine, right 318 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: mm hm. 319 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: So it's actually a reusable mineral. 320 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: So a big thing that you can do to help 321 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: gorillas is actually recycle your cell phones. You can come 322 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: here to the Safari Park. You can turn it in 323 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 3: right at our Gorilla Forest. We have a great recycling 324 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: cell phone box or any of those smaller electronics box 325 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 3: that we can use and it will actually turn it in. 326 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: They'll take the mineral out and then they'll turn in 327 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: those old electronic devices and actually get money for conservation 328 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: to help gorillas out in Africa. 329 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool, Sam, I absolutely love it. And 330 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: I know we wanted to educate the crowd, but I 331 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: totally knew about it, and I remember like bringing my 332 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: stuff and it was really it felt good. One clearing 333 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: out my closet was great for one and she just 334 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: feeling good. They were helping at gorillas and it's such 335 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: an easy thing, right, So your kids listen in, maybe 336 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: bug your parents, Maybe grab that old iPad, right or 337 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: that old cell phone. Come to the Safari parker find 338 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: a way to recycle, right or even when you're purchasing 339 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: maybe a new cell phone. A lot of them are 340 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: offering more sustainable practices right that you can do that 341 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: to help gorilla so I love that to your point too, 342 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: all that mining is destroying these beautiful rainforests. We're talking 343 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: the center of Africa, the Congo air in Nigeri and 344 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: these poor animals that get affected, but also to my knowledge, 345 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: to the communities get affected as well, you know, polluting 346 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: the waters and whatnot. So there's a lot going on. 347 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: And you also, by the way, mention wildlife trafficking and 348 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: also interactions with human beings, because I mean, you and 349 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: I live here in San Diego. It's gorgeous, right, Maybe 350 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: we go on a hike, we see it deer, maybe 351 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: we see a red tailed hawk. But there are some 352 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: places in the world, like for instance of Congo, where 353 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: a farmer could be, you know, living in Africa with 354 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: his family, growing his crops, living in life. But maybe 355 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: he'll wake up one day and oh no, there's like 356 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: a there's a troop of gorillas in my crops right, 357 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: rating my crops, which I'm sure as a bummer for 358 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: the poor farmer trying to support his families. I totally 359 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: get right, But that may have a negative impact on 360 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: gorillas too. 361 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: What you say, Yes, these guys are also very much post. 362 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: Poach, meaning like they're being hunted. 363 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: They're being hunted to I legally hunted. Legally, there is 364 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: a big bush meat for these guys. 365 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: Bush meat it's like meat found in the jungles from the. 366 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Wild, right pretty much, So these guys sometimes can be 367 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: hunted for their meat. It's something that we're trying to 368 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: educate the local people about how these gorillas are super 369 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: important to their environment. They create such a great biodiversity because. 370 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: They're seed disperses, right, I mean they're eating a lot 371 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: of different plants. 372 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: Out there, wouldn't you say, Yeah, they're eating wide variety. 373 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: They help with forest fires as well too, you know, 374 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: keeping that brush down, eating and going through that forest. 375 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: I didn't think about brush fires. There's so much that 376 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: they do. There's a term that you and I are 377 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: familiar with called the flagship species. So if listeners are 378 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: not familiar, basically, you know, helping out a gorilla or 379 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: maybe an elephant or maybe a jaguarre, you're going to 380 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: help out so many other animals, right, they're community in 381 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: the area. 382 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: It's a huge domino effect. 383 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so many animals thrive off also where gorillas lives too. 384 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: You know, there's chimpanzees, there's other smaller there's no copies. 385 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: There's all these different kinds of animals that thrive in 386 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: their areas. 387 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you visit our website at San Diego 388 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: Zoo on the FWN so you can learn a lot 389 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: about a conservation practices out there. And it's also like 390 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: building up community. I mean, I've met some of the 391 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: individuals out there doing amazing programs. I think it's called 392 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: like clube. They have me styled the Gorilla It's a 393 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: wonderful community program, so they learn about gorilla is the 394 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: importance of sustainable farming is an example. And even like 395 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: creating job sam. I mean some of these people could 396 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: become maybe a guide, a scout right and the ecotourism 397 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: is a great way, right, would. 398 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: You say to help out that organization Also is a 399 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: group of people in the community. 400 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: Is that their big mission is to educate the local people. 401 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 402 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: They decided that one day, a big, large group of 403 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: them said that we're not going to hunt them anymore. 404 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: We're actually going to protect these guys. 405 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: And they realize that they can get money from eco 406 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: tourism versus hunting them. The local community is realizing that 407 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: they're experiencing more benefits out of eco tourism and saving 408 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: gorillas the versus hunting them. 409 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: Oh I love that. And they see examples of that 410 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: all over the world where it's the community beginning practices, 411 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: like with the Wahsu lines as an example to Emma 412 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: as well. It's people in those areas or even here 413 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: in San Diego just want to protect their wildlife, right, 414 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: keep the grass green, keep the air fresh. Right sure, yeah, 415 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna benefit everyone. Oh man, we're talking so much. 416 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like more interesting things to 417 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: highlight here, because you know, they can come into the 418 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Safari Park, they can experience a main troop with Paul 419 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: donon mention and also with Franken Monroe and you brush 420 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: briefly about the Bronx Boys, which I totally love that name, 421 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: by the way, and it's a good reminder for listeners 422 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: that it's not just us, you know, like we're working 423 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: together with different organizations around the world, but especially here 424 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: in the United States, right y, And so we have 425 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: some uniqueness here at the Safari Park. And by that 426 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: I'm referencing just the space alone, right, I mean the 427 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: San Diego Zoo. No shade to the zoo. Love me 428 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: the zoo one hundred acres, which is epic, so many 429 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: cool animals and plant life. But here we're the Safari Park. 430 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: We're eighteen hundred acres, right, crazy, Yeah, And this habitat Sam. 431 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: Since I've been sixteen, this particular habitat has always been 432 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: one that I thought, like, man if I was a 433 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: wildlife living at the Safari Park, this would be my 434 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: habit right, can you describe a little bit of it, 435 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: like what makes so unique and why perhaps we could 436 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: offer this space for the Bronx boys. 437 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this habitat is perfect for a bachelor troop. 438 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: It's super large, there's a lot of climbing different structures. 439 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of palm trees out here. They sometimes 440 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: will climb up the palm trees. We'll be driving by 441 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: and they'll be up on the third floor of our 442 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: climbing structure or just sitting there, you know, sitting on 443 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: top of one of the large poles, one of the 444 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: large trees. We'll see Frank pull some of the palm 445 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: fronds down, and it's funny, you know, watching a four hundred. 446 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: Pound animal jump up. 447 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: And these guys are not really meant to be jumpers. 448 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: They have super short legs and really long arms. So 449 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: watching him jump up is like watching a little kid 450 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: try to jump for the first time. They don't really 451 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: know how to, you know, use those legs to get 452 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: as much high in the sky. I feel that they're 453 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: a lot better climbers. But this habitat is super large. 454 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot of what we call getaway area. 455 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Maybe, like, for instance, like everyone thinks I'm an extrovert, 456 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: but in reality, Sam, like, I love talking to people, right, 457 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: but there are sometimes like when I'm done work, and 458 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: I love my job, but when I'm done, I just 459 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: don't want to talk to any human being. You know, 460 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little more of an introvert. I would imagine 461 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: these guys are the same. 462 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So sometimes these guys just want to get 463 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: away from each other. They want a visual break from 464 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: each other, right yeah. 465 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Even right now, right as we're talking. I noticed earlier, 466 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: before you and I met up here at the habitat, 467 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: they were actually playing together, which is really cute to see, 468 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: by the way. But now I notice that franken r 469 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: are in completely opposite sides. One taking a little nappy 470 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: napped down to the lower level, and we got another 471 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: one here forging on some browse material under a palm tree, 472 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: and it's a vibe. But they got there a little space, right, 473 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: which is perfect, so. 474 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: They can actually get away from each other. 475 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: So there's many hills on this habitat, there's a moat 476 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: that goes all the way around it, so that way 477 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: they can always you know, get a visual break of 478 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: each other, so they can just be like, Okay, I 479 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: need a little moment to myself. That's perfectly fine. 480 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no little choice and control things right exactly. 481 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: They don't need to be all next to each other. 482 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: They don't need to be best buddies every single time. 483 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: I feel that it's just like teenage boys. Sometimes they're 484 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: you know, playing along. Sometimes they're tussling on each other. 485 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes me think of my husband, and 486 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: I like people who know us know this, and he 487 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: knows I'm going to say this, sorry Kobe, but I say, like, 488 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Kobe's like a golden retriever, Like he gets energy being 489 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: around people. He's up in the morning, by the way, 490 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: without caffeine, and he's up and ready to go. Me 491 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm not quite that way. I'm more like a bear 492 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: coming out of a cave. So I need about an hour. 493 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: I need some space, I need low light, you know. 494 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: But everyone navigates the world in their own way. So 495 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: it's really really great that you guys are able to 496 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: identify like unique personality traits of every single gorilla that 497 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: we have here. 498 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: So every single gorilla is different. 499 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: No two gorillas ever made the same, just like two humans, 500 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: They're never going to be the same and not have 501 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: every single same personality. Frank definitely is, you know, our 502 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: large and in charge man. He you know, he's always 503 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: been the big brother we like to call a he 504 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: not in the best way big brother. He well, he 505 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: likes to poke the bear a lot. He likes to 506 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: let everyone know that he is in charge. 507 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: I get that, you know. 508 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: And he's always been the largest for the longest time. 509 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: But you know, finally Monroe's kind of caught off to 510 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: him and Row are the same size right now. 511 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is so big now. I remember he was 512 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: a little beady too, So it's great to see them 513 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: develop like this. Oh Sam, I could stay here forever, 514 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: but I know we're getting a little closer on our 515 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: time here. But there's two other questions that I really 516 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: wanted to bring up, and one you know, identifies that 517 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: LATINX community and the queer community as well. Right, And 518 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: one of my favorite things about gorillas, honestly is this misnomer, 519 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: this misunderstanding of gorillas and with toxic masculinity, to be 520 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: honest with you, you know, I mean everyone thinks of like, well, 521 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: you remember the movie King Kong as an example, Right, 522 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: It's sort of like it's sensationalizes a portion of the 523 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: nuance of behavior that gorillas can express. Right, Can you 524 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: talk to me a little bit, like what is a 525 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: gorilla normally? Like? Are they always aggressive? Are they jumping 526 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: up buildings carrying people? 527 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: Sam? 528 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: Is that what's going on? No? No, are you sure? 529 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: Not as much as fun as King Kong is? You know, 530 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: it's not the best depiction of gorillas. Kind of like 531 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: if you ever come to our gorilla forest, you'll see 532 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: Paul most of the time either hanging out and laying 533 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: down or you know, eating. Sometimes every once in a 534 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: while he has to break up some fights between the ladies, which. 535 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: Normal, that's normal, normal roommate kind of stuff. 536 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: Our bachelor boys are a little bit more high with 537 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: the testcosterom, so they might be displaying a little bit 538 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: more than you would say, Paul. 539 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: But it makes sense to me, right, I mean, just 540 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: to bring up the fact that this is a male, 541 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: you said, what four to six hundred pounds. But in 542 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: Africa they have to protect their troop, their family if 543 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: they need to. So that's kind of what I'd be 544 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: mistaken to say that that's why they're as big as 545 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: they are. And they even have some canines if they 546 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: need to fend the troop. I mean, maybe a leopard 547 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: comes in the area, you don't know, right, so you 548 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: have to protect your famdia right. 549 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 550 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: So these guys are I like to calm, all bark, 551 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: no bite, so they do not want to get in 552 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: conflict if they don't. 553 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: Have to write. And this is a vegetarian too, am 554 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: I Sometimes I noticed a male guests get a little 555 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: surprised when I tell them, like friends, this is one 556 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: hundred percent vegetarian, right, no meat? 557 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 558 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: And these guys are straight muscle, you know when they 559 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: don't when they run, only the thing that's moving. 560 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: Really is the hair. 561 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: It's straight, straight muscles. They are solid, they are solid. 562 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot of the gorillas are very relaxed. 563 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: They're very calm. Sometimes you know they will run around 564 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 3: and play like I was saying how Leslie is when 565 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: they're younger. But usually as they get older and you know, 566 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more mature, they kind of slow down 567 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: a little bit and they're you know, all gorillas, especially Paul, 568 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: love to eat, and usually right after a big Thanksgiving meal, 569 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, they like to take a long nap, soement about. 570 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: That for sure. 571 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes, especially in all of our habitats we 572 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: have hammocks, they'll like to go up in those hammocks 573 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: and just take a good nap, or they'll make a 574 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: huge nest and take a big nap. A lot of times, 575 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: these guys are, you know, sleeping a lot. So that's 576 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: awesome that they're showing us that they're comfortable and taking 577 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: a nap wherever they want to, expressing. 578 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: A behaviors that you're looking for. 579 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: For sure. 580 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: These guys, especially Frank. I've worked with Frank for almost 581 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: four years now, just seeing his and I's relationship grow 582 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: and how much you know, he trusts me. That work 583 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: a lot with him, and a lot of our training 584 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: that we do is based on trust, you know, and 585 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 3: we never tell them no, We never use punishment. We 586 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: always keep our relationship in good standing. So these guys 587 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: they're trained for a while variety of different behaviors. They're 588 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: trained for husbandry behaviors, which is pretty much a fun 589 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: way to say that they voluntarily take part in their 590 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: own medical care. 591 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe like dental work, right, or maybe they got 592 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: to cut on an arm or something like that, so 593 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: we can partake in that. 594 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, so Frank, we can brush his teeth, you know, 595 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: to make sure they kind of keep it clean. Right now, 596 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: we're working on cardiac ultrasounds. Oh yeah, so the number 597 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: one reason for death in gorillas, for natural death is 598 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: actually heart problems. Yeah, so we can have him present 599 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: his chest, we use an ultrasound one and be able 600 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: to see his different heartbeats, and that way we never 601 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: have to put him on our estia. We can do 602 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: it all voluntarily and if he wants. 603 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: To walk away perfectly fine. 604 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: That's amazing And honestly, because our care is just so 605 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: top noch here that we have a lot of our 606 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: species individuals that live longer than the standard lifespan. 607 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: You know. 608 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: So you mentioned Winston before, but maybe listeners aren't aware 609 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: that was their previous silver back in the troop and 610 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 2: he was one of the longest live male gorillas in history, 611 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: right in fifty two years, and it was a cardiac 612 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: issue too. But you know, it's all kept moment for 613 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: that wonderful, wonderful gorilla Winston. We're also getting close to 614 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: the other those what they'll see you, So I put 615 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: them a picture of Winston in my own. 616 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: Friend that we know definitely have put up Winston on 617 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: our friend. 618 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Oh Sam, I'm having the best time, 619 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: but you know, we got to kind of show up 620 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: what I have. One more question. It's a question that 621 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: Rick had always brought up that I absolutely loved. It's like, 622 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: what got you into this him? Like, was it a 623 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: gorilla book when you were a kid? Did you always 624 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: want to work with gorillas? 625 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: Like? 626 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: What got you in this kind of line of work? 627 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: So I kind of fell into gorillas. 628 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: I always knew I wanted to be a wildlifecare specialist. 629 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: I always always I want to be a keeper wildlofcare specialist. 630 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to Yep. 631 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: I always wanted to be a zoo keeper growing up 632 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: and when I was doing internships throughout college, even like 633 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: started my career doing seasonal positions. I tried every single animal. 634 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure. I just wanted to see. 635 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: I want to test all the waters. I tried marine mammals, 636 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: I did elephants, I did carnivores, I. 637 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: Did first a plethora. 638 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 3: I you know, I was open to everything and anything. Wow, okay, 639 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: So I wanted to open I kept my mind open 640 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: and want to keep every door open. And then my 641 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: first full time position ended up just being Gorilla. And 642 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: at that point I never worked great apes or primates 643 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: at that point. So I was like, all right, let's 644 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: try it. And you know these guys are you know, 645 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: like you said, four hundred pounds. 646 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: I was so nervous my first time working with Gorilla. 648 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: Oh you were, Oh I was, you know, I as 649 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: like we said, like all you see is King Kong, 650 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: you know the. 651 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I've known these guys for a while, but 652 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Monroe in a while, honestly, and he's really. 653 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: Big, super sure, and so I was a little nervous, 654 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, like, especially when we go behind the scenes, 655 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: you get a closer personal right now, And I was like, 656 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: are you sure? Are we You know, you don't realize 657 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: how big they are until you're right next to that, 658 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: and so you know, after I've worked with gorillas for 659 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: almost over six years now, and so you know, I 660 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: kind of fell into it. Came out here to San 661 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: Diego four years ago and then I saw a gorilla 662 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: position was open, so I applied for it and got it, 663 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: and you know, continued my career with working with gorillas. 664 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: Sam. Absolutely love that everyone has like a different origin story, 665 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: and I love it for all the kids listening, especially 666 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: because I'm sure that someone's saying, like, I want to 667 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: be a gorilla wildlife care specialist, and I love for me. 668 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: What I took away from your store is keeping an 669 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: open mind and being adaptable because sometimes you're presented with 670 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: challengers or doors open up and maybe you're feeling some 671 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: kind of way right and you don't want to do 672 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: it and you're nervous about it, but you should grab 673 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: life by the reins, right and go for it, and 674 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: just go for it. 675 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just go all the way out. 676 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: You always want to try new things. That's my big 677 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: thing is I always want to try something new. I 678 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 3: always want to, you know, push the envelope and see 679 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: what else is out there. 680 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: Aw, Sam, this was amazing. Thank you, so much for that. 681 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: That's a great wait. I think to end today's episode 682 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: and thank you for this wonderful experience. A whole time 683 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: I've been distracted watching these two, just just living and 684 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: it's been the best. So for sharing some gorilla Nuncle Sam. 685 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: That was great. Yeah, oh guys, that was amazing. I 686 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: mean I'm always learning something neat with the wildlife care 687 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: specialist teams at the zoo in the park, they do 688 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: so much amazing work. So when you're cruising around the 689 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: Safari Park with the San Diego Zoo and you happen 690 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: to see those tangerds out there, give them a big 691 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: thank you and a big thumbs up for all the 692 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: work that they do. This was epic and I hope 693 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: you enjoyed today's episode about rilla is learn all about 694 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: the Safe Gorilla Program, what you can do to help 695 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: out in gorilla conservation. So stick around for more adventures, 696 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: whether it be the Zusafari Park. I don't want to 697 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 2: give a hint just yet, but I got some really 698 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: interesting things to share with you guys with the remaining 699 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: part of this season. You know what I'm gonna say, 700 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take out I'm Marco went and have a 701 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: gorgeous day Stay wild. For more information about the San 702 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: Diego Zoo and San Diego Zoo Safari Park, go to 703 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: SDZWA dot org. 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