1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: for a day? Eat a steak? Is that woo woom? 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and Girls. My 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: name is Ty Hill, the brand joining me as always 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: over there in Chicago Land, great summer city. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how you doing? Man? It was great 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and I actually went out and played tennis and 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm now very sore, and because it's been a busy 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: morning and I was preparing for the show, and you know, 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: we were honing in on the concept like seven minutes ago, 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I haven't eaten anything today, and 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I had an all time sad dad lunch, sad dad lunch, 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: sad dad lunch of two fistfuls of special K. So 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. Yeah, so I'm okay. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back in Boys and Girls. Hopefully you are 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: more nourished than my co host, Dan Rubinstein. I had 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: a lovely salad for lunch. We are recording a little 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: bit earlier than usual today because we wanted to tap 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: into our unbridled energy source here as we talk about 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two NFL draft, at least twenty twenty 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: two NFL mock drafts that we found online and were 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: quite amused by, which we'll get into here in just 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. Don't forget to follow along with your 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: podcasting app of choice or on social media, whatever you're into, 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: you could find the Solid Verbal also submissions at solidverbal 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: dot com. We have gotten so many really good submissions 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: from people who want to help with the site, be 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: it writing, editing, all sorts of different things. So keep 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: those common submissions at solidverbal dot com. We appreciate one 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: and all sending in their samples and wanted to be 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: part of the movement. 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. We should also mention we have a starting 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: next week, do we not? Are we are we announcing 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: this today? I think so? We already put it up online. 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, go on, I'm listening. Yeah, yeah, So we 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: are starting a mini series. In years past we've done 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: coach months where we've had a few coaches on or 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: scheme themes. We are doing a series we're producing and hosting. 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of an extension of the Solidverbal 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: and it's on this feed starting next week called So now, 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: what about everything that we've forgotten about twenty twenty, the 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: most ridiculous year and recent memory of college football on 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and off the field, and what it all now means 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: moving forward. So, you know, we're talking about conference power 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: and hierarchy and decision making and off field stuff and 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: player health and safety protocol and how the social world 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: has intertwined with the college football world, and we are 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: quite excited to just with the benefit of time, unpack 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: and figure out what it all might mean moving forward. 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Does that all make sense? Yeah, we're excited about this. 54 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: Actually, we came up with this idea kind of in 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: the throes of the pandemic towards the end of last season, 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: when it was unclear you'll remember, for a point in 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: time whether or not they were going to finish this 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: thing out. We were recording shows wondering behind the scenes. 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: They even gonna finish this season out? Where is this 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: thing heading? 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: We came up with this idea. We're excited about it. 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: First installment of that is going to drop next week. 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: So stay tuned to your podcasting app of choice, to 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: our RSS feed, and of course to all of our 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: social channels for more information about what's to come. But 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: y gonna step away from the normal silliness of the 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: off season here. By the way, if you go on 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: out to verballers dot com the Patreon, you can find 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: the official announce video. We are going to be posting 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: some bonus content from this mini series out there at 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: for ballers dot com, so go and check it out. 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I should also add, just in terms of news, we 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: have the sc FCS playoffs happening and they're down to 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: what the semi finals, semifinals. First time in nine years 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: that North Dakota State will not be in the semifinals. 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Did see that? So we have what Sam Houston State 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: taking down, I mean they took down the Bison right 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty. It was a good game. Yeah, 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: the number two seed facing off against number three seed 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: JMU James Madison. On either side, We've got South Dakota State, 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: that's what the Jacks yep, No Rabbits, yes, yes, yes yes, 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and your Delaware blue Heads fighting blue Hens, baby fighting 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: blue Hens who are not seeded. So we've got the one, two, 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: and three and then Delaware looks like it was a 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: crazy game and an upset against Jacksonville State. I'm going 86 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: to try to watch these. I didn't really watch much 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, just here and there when I would 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: throw on the ESPN app. But I'm I'm kind of 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: excited for this. Is that okay? Of course, it's okay, Yeah, 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: I should think that happening Saturday are the semis, Yes, 91 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the eighth of May and then yeah, so three, four, five, 92 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: sixteenth will. 93 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: Be the championship game at two pm in the afternoon. 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: A lot of fans, Yeah, a lot of fans are 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: watching this as you might expect. The one other note 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: I'll point out in North Dakota State, though they have 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: been like the eight hundred pound gorilla in this room 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: for many many years running, now, they actually were not 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: one of the top four seeds going into this snow 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: which is important context here. A great win for Sam 101 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Houston State twenty four to twenty. Sam Houston was the 102 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: number two seed headed into that game. Now moves on 103 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: to face to face off against JMU. 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: I will be watching, and I think they're playing in 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: Frisco once again, so goodbye me. Is there anything else 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: going on in the world, Dan, There is one other 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: thing that just jumped out to me, Utah and Wisconsin 108 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: announced Home and Home in Madison in twenty twenty eight, 109 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: and when you are fifty two years old Salt Lake 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: City in twenty thirty three, A fifty two year old tie. 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's great. Yeah, that's all. That's all. 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: I thought you wanted to go into a long, exhaustive 113 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: breakdown of Tyler Buckner's breakout performance in the Notre Dame 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: Spring Game, but we can save that for another show. 115 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Is that true, Tyler the Day, Tyler the Creator. 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm coining it right now. I'm ready, true freshman, true freshman. 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: Look, the part looked very, very promising, maybe as Notre 118 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: Dame's best quarterback. So your new maleigue Zayira, the new 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Zaira is upon us. 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, okay, So so as we play our 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: it's not even a game, it's our sort of an 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: early evaluation period. 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: Here is what cracks me up about the quote unquote 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: early evaluation period. 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: M hm. 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: We did this on the last show where we were 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: looking ahead at twenty twenty one mock drafts, and then 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: we said, oh, well, let's click into the future, and 129 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: then you get to twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: I was on Walterfootball dot Com. 131 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: They've been doing this forever. 132 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 2: They've got guys in their twenty twenty four mock draft 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: who aren't even on college teams yet haven'ty decided what 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: team they're going to play for, So this is what 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: they do. They look way out in advance. I'm sure 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: they wouldn't even attest to the accuracy of those very 137 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: early evaluation periods. But nonetheless, we're looking ahead to twenty 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: twenty two, and we pulled out some names from was 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: it the Bleacher. 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Report mock draft? It was the Bleacher Yes, it was 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Bleacher yep. 142 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty two NFL mock draft that Bleacher put out, 143 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: and we each grab five guys. We're going to break 144 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: down whether or not this is legit, whether or not 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: it's something we can get behind, whether or not it's 146 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: something that we feel needs a little bit more research. 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: Where we stand on ten players that are listed prominently 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: as part of this twenty twenty two mock That sound. 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I have no ideas, That's absolutely true. I 150 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: have no idea about NFL destinations and making sense like, oh, 151 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: this guy should go to the Browns, He's a perfect fit. 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea about any of that, but yeah, 153 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: it's looking at where we've selected five guys and we 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: want to give further context to their I suppose careers 155 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: thus far, and then they're twenty twenty one seasons and 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: the position groups they're in, and you know their coaches 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and what they might need to prove and tough opponents, 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and just sort of evaluate these players within the context 159 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: of how they'll be playing in their careers thus far. 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: And I guess what they could do to move up 161 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: in the mock draft for a lot. I don't know. 162 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: That's something I probably can't cover with a certain degree 163 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: of accuracy. But we've selected five and I tried to 164 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: go across the country and various conferences and such, so 165 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: you can you can start if you'd like. Well, I 166 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: want you to start with Spencer Rattler. Okay, let's do it. 167 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: So Spencer Rattler. He is going to be a what 168 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: red shirt sophomore correct going into the twenty twenty one 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: season starting quarterback for Oklahoma. 170 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: Depends where you look. 171 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: I've seen some of the really early mock drafts who 172 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: have Spencer Rattler off the board before Sam. How I 173 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: will do CM, How you can do. Spencer Ratler. Let's 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: talk through a little bit more about Spencer Rattler. He 175 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: was you know, he waited his turn at Oklahoma, finally 176 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: got the gig. I thought looked very, very good. The 177 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: one thing you always hear about Spencer Rattler is, and 178 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: it's cliche at this point, can make all the throws. 179 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: This is a kid who has an incredibly live arm. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: I joke about could really spin it. He can really 181 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: spin it. If you ever watch him throw, it's effortless, 182 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: and that's got to be something that NFL guys are 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: just loving drooling at. 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's the clear arm talent winner of 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one crop of quarterbacks, which doesn't look 186 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: to be that strong and that deep in the way 187 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: that you know they lived last I mean this year 188 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: and last year I suppose were. So he has that 189 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: going for him in terms of draft position. If he's 190 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: not clearly the number one overall pick, he'll probably be 191 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: drafted pretty highly just because it seems like a shallow class. 192 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Spencer Rattler. He's following up dudes 193 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: who led more productive offenses and Jalen Hurts, Kayler Murray 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield, but in terms of pure armability, he 195 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: is ahead of those dudes, and what he has around 196 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: him this year is encouraging. Creed Humphrey obviously is gone 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: up front at center, but he has his guards back 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean, they have returning guys at tackles, 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: but Janya Morris, the Tennessee transfer who was a big 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: time recruit, he enters into the fold, so they've got 201 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: guys competing at left tackle. His receivers should be improving studs. 202 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: I mean Theoez Jaydon Hazelwood flashed in the spring game. 203 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Marvin Mims was very promising last year. They lose Charleston Rambo, 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: but they have Wes Welker type and Drake's dooms. I 205 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: guess that's where we are right now. And I dug 206 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: into some of the advanced numbers which are not which 207 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: I don't think tell anywhere near a complete story because 208 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: there are always going to be variables involved. He was 209 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: slightly better throwing into zones than he was against man coverage, 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: but I don't at all doubt the strength of his 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: arm to squeeze passes into two spaces, and then his 212 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: touch was very good. He had some brutal drops if 213 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: you remember it, key moments last year, and so really 214 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: in terms of what you want from him is you know, 215 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: continually flashing, throwing on the run and just looking like 216 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: he does on his fourth throw and his thirty fourth 217 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: throw throw. Excuse me late in games. Those late in 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: game moments were really tough early on against Kansas State 219 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: and Iowa State. And I mean skill wise, I mentioned 220 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: the receivers. No Ramandre Stevenson, but Eric Gray transfers in 221 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Kennedy Brooks set out twenty twenty and he's back and 222 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: it's the usual suspects. In terms of who you want 223 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: to see Spencer Rattler popping against, it's at Kansas State 224 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Texas on the neutral site in Dallas, TCU. They're at 225 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Baylor this year, which I think should be tough. You know, 226 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: David ran against another year with that defense, Iowa State 227 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: once again and Oklahoma State should be pretty good on 228 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: defense this year. And that's bedlam on the road. So 229 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler has every opportunity with who he has returning 230 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective and from a player perspective, and 231 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: that there's no obvious killer defense on his schedule. Every 232 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to put up absolute cartoon numbers this year. 233 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and which Oklahoma quarterback over the last couple of 234 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: years hasn't done that? He will do incredible numbers again 235 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: this season. Not the biggest guy six to one to 236 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: two of five, bigger than Kyler Murray, right, but not 237 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: the biggest quarterback who's presumably going to be in the 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two class. 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Right. 240 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: The arm strength is off the charts, He's very mobile, 241 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: He's got a ton of poison the pocket. Sometimes gets 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: a little yippie with his throws, and sometimes trust the 243 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: arm a little bit too much, throws into triple coverage. 244 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: But other than that, that's all stuff that can be corrected. 245 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: There's a lot to love about this kid was a. 246 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Fing You remember, we're talking about a twenty twenty quarterback. 247 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: So in terms of his training in the off season, 248 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: some aer yeah, some of the workouts of all camp 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: like his, I would imagine we're going to see also, 250 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: like just improvement across the board on both sides of 251 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: the ball the sport. I think tackling will be better. 252 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I think under fundamental understanding of offenses will be better 253 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: from quarterbacks and coordinators alike. So I think Spencer Ratler 254 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: is going to be a big winner of a quote 255 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: unquote more normal year. 256 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's go to where we're going for we 257 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: gotta go to Kyle Hamilton. 258 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton safety No. 259 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Tre Dame, six', four two, nineteen going to be a 260 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: true junior fifty one solo. Tackles last year he had 261 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: sixty three in total per our friends over AT. Pff 262 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: he hasn't given up a touchdown in five hundred and 263 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: ninety four covered. Snaps so what you like about, him 264 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: just from like an unscientific and completely biased, perspective please 265 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: grant me that. Always he's six,' four he's an. Imposing 266 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: presence he can do just about anything on defense anywhere you. 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Need him if he needs to come up and, stick 268 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: somebody if he needs, to blitz if he needs to 269 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: cover a tight end or even a, slot receiver even a, 270 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: zero receiver he can. 271 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: Do it he can. 272 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Do it he's, also everywhere all. At, once Yeah You're 273 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Michelle branch player Of. 274 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: The year he. 275 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Is everywhere his new, Defensive Coordinator, marcus freeman has made 276 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: it known that he's not Coming To notre dame to 277 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: make any. DRASTIC changes i think you're going to see 278 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: a lot of the same stuff that we've seen over 279 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: the last couple. Of years, if anything because there is, 280 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: some turnover especially In The notre, Dame Secondary marcus freeman 281 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: may lean a little bit More On kyle hamilton to 282 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: step up to make, that impact to lead the charge from. 283 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: THE back. 284 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: I just don't think we're going to see anything drastic 285 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: that's going to alter. His output the Schedule For notre 286 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: dame in twenty twenty one. Is ideal i'm not going 287 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: to Say That kyle hamilton will have an opportunity against 288 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: a bunch. Of killers, he won't but he is going 289 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to set things up from the 290 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: defensive side of. The football he's got some big games against. 291 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Top talent right you may not be the best team in, 292 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: the world but there's. Always Talent wisconsin cincinnati is an. 293 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: INTERESTING one Usc Certainly sam HALL and Unc on halloween 294 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: weekend will be an Opportunity For kyle hamilton to showcase 295 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: what he can do. Out there he's gonna have to 296 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: be the top safety off, the board may not be 297 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: the top defensive back off. The board with Guys Like, 298 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: derek stingley Junior who i'm going to talk about momentarily 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: also in the. Draft Class But KYLE hamilton i think 300 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: sets up as a surefire top, ten pick barring any 301 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: kind of injury or anything just going, you know in an. 302 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Unforeseen Direction kyle hamilton is about as close to a 303 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: lock as you're going to get in the defensive backfield 304 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: coming out of this. 305 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Next class definitely on the. Tall, side right he's listed at. 306 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: Six force maybe he's, six' three so i wonder at six, 307 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: FOUR two twenty i wonder how he's used potentially as 308 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: a hybrid because you mentioned that you can play in 309 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the box and he can. PLAY in coverage i wonder 310 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: if he's going to start getting looks, at outside Linebacker 311 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Perhaps in marcus, FREEMAN'S you know i don't know if 312 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna, put on weight but, in his defense just 313 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: because you look at safeties who are drafted and generally SUCCEED, 314 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: in the nfl and it's, a little taller six to 315 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: four is a little taller than what you're. Used to 316 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: seeing just because of change of, direction in coverage you 317 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: like to get guys who are perhaps sixty one sixty. 318 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: TWO at safety i don't know what those the difference 319 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: in six' two and, sixty four really means but there 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: seems to be somewhat. Of A proto type so i 321 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: wonder if he's not that guy who every team actually covets, 322 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: because he, can play you know he, can rush, the passer, 323 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: he can you know. Take a tight end he can 324 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: line up against a Receiver In that almost. Isaiah simmons 325 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: type role that's that's going to, be fascinating to me 326 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: just how he's used now in His Final year at 327 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: notre dame and MOVING. Forward in the nfl. 328 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he does. AT the next 329 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: level i think he'll be highly coveted because of that 330 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: ability to break out and not so much be pigeonholed 331 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: into the normal. Role of a safety he can just 332 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: DO so much that i think there's a lot of 333 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: value on, guys like, that nowadays especially nowadays. 334 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: There's a certain, joy By the way and i'm positive 335 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: you Feel This way about kyle hamilton and have since 336 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: he became a rotation player almost right. Out of the 337 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: gate when you root for a team that has a 338 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: safety who's just more advanced than everybody else on, the 339 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: field pretty much and you have that confidence that he's 340 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: going to make tackles, in the open field that he's 341 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: not going to bite on play action and get completely 342 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: burned deep and just is that full on leader behind 343 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: that defense getting. Everybody lined up there there's a certain 344 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: amount of comfort as a fan knowing that. Dude is 345 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: back there i've had a Couple, of Those At oregon 346 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: including javon holland who just got drafted i think early. 347 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: In The second round so i'm sorry for you that 348 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to have that presence in your life. Probably, 349 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: after this year. 350 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what let me stick with The 351 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: Defensive Backfield, into derek stingley junior because he's another one 352 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: listed in this mock draft six' one one ninety. Good 353 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: size for a cornerback he's been the nation's highest rated. 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: Corner ever since twenty nineteen again PER, our friends over 355 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: at Pff That's even higher than pat sertan junior Who. 356 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: Just got picked on thursday so that's the. Caliber we're 357 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: talking about here playing against top flight talent to showcase 358 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: what he can do is NEVER An issue, in the 359 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: sec west schedule is not goun in. Practice against his 360 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: own teammates he's going to have plenty of opportunity to. 361 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: Showcase what he Can do his freshman season dan in 362 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen was regarded by many as one of the 363 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: greatest freshman campaigns of all. Time at the cornerback position 364 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: he was out there a couple games and he had 365 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: scout scrolling pretty much plug and play wiped out one 366 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: side of the field the, second he went out there, 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: just knows what he's doing knows has has the awareness 368 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: to know where, his teammates are around him, to play 369 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: off their strengths. To play to his, own to my, 370 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: untrained eye very untrained eye it does not look. 371 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Like there are too. 372 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: Many holes in his, GAME before doing this show i 373 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: went back and did a little research to. Read what other, People, 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: thought it turns out nope no one. Can find any 375 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: holes either he's just about as close to a lock 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: at corner as you're going to. Find coming out of 377 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: college somebody's going. To take him top five he's easily the. 378 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: Top corner off the, board he's a shutdown corner and 379 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: you know they've scouts have felt as much since the 380 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: moment he stepped. 381 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: OUT there as a freshman i will point out one, 382 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: glaring flaw of His Game and that is DeVante. Smith 383 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: turned him into ash he got Beat up really bad 384 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: by Alabama's Receiving cor and, specifically DeVante smith last year 385 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and so that is going to. Be on, film for. 386 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: Anybody and look everybody did every single human who Has 387 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: tried to hang. With smith was Completely Torched, but THAT 388 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: includes derek stingley Who I don't remember what DeVante smith finished, 389 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: with in the first half but. It wasn't one hundred 390 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: yards it was over too and Many Of. Those came 391 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: against derek stingley so in terms of cleaning, up, some 392 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: of his game, yes whether it's you know not being 393 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: able to jam, a smaller receiver, like That there are 394 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: elements but stingley to come onto the scene like. He 395 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: did as a freshman and granted you Also have to 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: remember with stingley last year was what Hospitalized The night, 397 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: Before the mississippi state game so he had he had 398 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: some sort, of was an allergic reaction, don't hold me 399 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: to that but he had some, sort of, reaction to 400 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: something was hospitalized and so we don't know how off. 401 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: He really was last, year not to make excuses but 402 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: this is the reality of twenty twenty and for him 403 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: it was that hospitalization. Early ON in the season so 404 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: i Am Quite excited to, see derek stingley this year 405 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: especially what we presume to be in a Better defense 406 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: than what bo. Polini was running last year and just 407 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: the absolute AWFUL elements Of Watching the Lsu defense, againstssissippi 408 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: state In Week, one not with derek stingley but just 409 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: not knowing you you don't Man Up on onder the mike. 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Leach spread, In Their, raids so yeah derek stingley his, 411 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: ceiling Is astronomically crazy crazy and. 412 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm i to that point i'm very curious to see 413 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: how these mock drafts change. 414 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Over the course. Of time they. 415 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: Always change they always change when you're talking, a full 416 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: year in. ADVANCE that's just a given i think going 417 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty two you're going to see a lot more, 418 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: change than you would typically just because there's so much 419 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty that we don't we don't know. How 420 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: to project that forward I'm Going to talk about keaton. 421 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Slovis In a little bit keaton slovis had very little, 422 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: action Last year by comparison and i'm just curious to 423 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: see if the Twenty twenty. 424 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: One version of slovis. 425 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Moves him up or down and if twenty twenty, gets 426 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: tossed in a Blender. 427 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: What so continue On keaton slovas. And then i'll take two. 428 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: We Can snake this. 429 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Well keaton slovas six to two hundred going, INTO what 430 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: his JUNIOR year i guess as usc quarterback had a 431 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: ridiculous true, freshman campaign in TWENTY. 432 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: Nineteen. TOOK over for jt, daniels jtd n expectedly right. Somebody. 433 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Was like he's ready nope, it was thrust, into action. 434 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: Thrust into action and it Was A pleasant surprise that 435 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: Clay Hilton got out of keaton slova is what. 436 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: He got out, OF. 437 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: Him because you're, thinking jt daniels? Goes Down what's this. 438 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: Mean keaton slova steps in he. 439 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: HAD. 440 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: A great freshman campaign jt Daniels had A Transfer to 441 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: georgia because keaton slovs was so good. Mainly in, that 442 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: freshman campaign thirty touchdowns nine interceptions as a true. Freshman 443 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: was pretty damn good the numbers last. Year were not 444 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: as good. They were NOT as good and again I 445 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: come back, To what i just said do we, throw 446 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: those in a fire do? We throw them out window 447 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: because IT was such. A goofy pac. TWELVE season i 448 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: don't know i don't know. What to make of it 449 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: luckily for, himley of twenty, twenty one they weren't horrible. 450 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: They just weren't as good so let's see Which direction 451 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: things go for. SLOVIS in twenty twenty one i think 452 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: what you like about him is that. He's a really 453 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: accurate passer he there's a very catchable ball that will 454 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: bode well, for him at this level at the next 455 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: level if he desires to go. Pro in twenty twenty 456 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: two he's got upper class beIN a one the offensive 457 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: line that are, gonna help keep him upright. And skill 458 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: talent around him maybe not the same names that, we 459 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: had a year AGO but skilled talent at. Usc usually 460 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: not a problem they'll, have guys to throw too. Even 461 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: though there's some turnover biggest Game On his schedule is 462 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: notre Dame, on The road late OCTOBER maybe oregon in, 463 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: the pac twelve title game if. It should come to 464 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: that but it looks like A. Pretty clean schedule for 465 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: usc it's not littered with land mines the, way it 466 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: might be otherwise and so he's going to have an 467 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: opportunity to go out there to better his numbers from 468 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty and potentially put himself in the running to 469 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: be one of the first. Three quarterbacks off the board. 470 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: He has, unbelievable receivers to throw to, EVEN though year 471 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: over Year i. Mean It's What i'm on, ross saint 472 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: brown gets drafted, And The year before that Michael Pittman. 473 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: Was terrific and tyler vaughns, all these. Guys were Very 474 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Very strong and now drake london seems to be the 475 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: unguardable dude who's a receiver kind. Of At tight end 476 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: size and bruce McCoy if You remember the USC To Texas. 477 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Back to usc gary bryant so there's all these dudes 478 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: that HAVE. Popped out Wide For Usc he loses elijah 479 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: vera tucker who, was a first round pick but he 480 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: WASN'T a tackle and nowably I, think inside in the Nfl. 481 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: He got torched by, oregon and that's To Me the 482 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: story of keten slovas is he has built up, his 483 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: numbers against lesser competition and In, THOSE two matchups against 484 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: oregon i think he's. Throwing, to combine six? Picks yeah? Is? 485 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: That right that's right yeah and had two. Picks in 486 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: that shootout win you like to have that IN. A 487 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: winning effort against ucla so against, some of the Better 488 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: teams you'd like for slovas. To look His absolute best 489 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: i'm also I'M not. WILD about the usc offense i 490 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: think he's really good at playmaking, and going downfield and 491 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: improvising BUT so much of that usc offense is. Just 492 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: swing passes and hitches there's like a lot of short 493 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: STUFF against the zones that i don't think They've Fully, 494 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: figured out with graham harrell like this is it seems 495 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: To be more of an. October team than anything Else 496 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: So you're right that notre dame is probably like that 497 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: needs to be a matchup that's he's got to Be 498 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: Able to look off kyle hamilton And Hit. Dudes deep 499 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: against notre dame. HIS line SHOULD be okay I Just 500 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: i worry that keden slovas is vaulted this high because 501 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: IT is that shallow class. I really, want to see you, 502 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: know it's a great story and If You're just looking at, 503 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: keden slovas, in a vacuum good. Quarterback good to really 504 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: good but the performances late In whatever it was in 505 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: October two years ago AGAINST oregon and then, the Pac 506 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: twelve championship game and i'll go into the next Guy Who. 507 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Terrorized him in cavon thibodeau it's just the offense has 508 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: to do a better Job of both catering to slovas's abilities. 509 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: AND to, the receiver's Abilities i mean what would Bruce 510 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: McCoy Be Doing? For alabama Or Ohio state what would 511 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: drake london be doing all game? Long for teams Like 512 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: that so that's, What i'd like to see And. That's 513 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: not necessarily on slovas that's Just the. Context, of the 514 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: slovas experience well that's Been the context. Of the HELTON experience, 515 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Too Well they I mean sam darnold was i think given. 516 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: A little bit more freedom they've gone to this like 517 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: full On. AIR raid that requires slovas i don't know 518 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: how many times he was throwing the? Ball most? Games 519 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: last year was it Did? He go over forty yeah, he, went, 520 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: over forty one two three. Four times in twenty twenty. 521 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot. OF passing it's a lot. 522 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: I saw the comp for him coming Out Of. HIGH 523 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: school was kirk cousins i. 524 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: DON'T know if that. HOLDS i get THE comparison, i think. 525 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: THERE'S i mean that's fine i think there's something crazy 526 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: impressive of somebody who can come in as a true freshman, 527 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: And succeed like he did like he's been great to. 528 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: Be part of the story and the. 529 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: Accuracy should not be overlooked he's been a very accurate, 530 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: passer in a, system that as, you said air raid 531 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: timing you got to throw the, ball where guys are going, 532 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: not necessarily where they are. 533 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: But it's an easier system to be accurate within. A. Lot, 534 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: of quick passes. YEAH yeah so, we'll see. 535 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't know we'll, see what twenty twenty One Twenty, 536 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: twenty one for keaton slovis you could argue is more 537 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: important than ANY of the two Guys I just Mentioned In. 538 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: Kyle hamilton and derek stingley maybe even more so The Case. 539 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: FOR guys like sam howell. I just twenty twenty one 540 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: what he does is season is gonna really ultimately tell where. 541 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: He, goes, In the draft. Yeah yeah i'm all. True 542 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: i'm excited to see i'm definitely excited to see BECAUSE 543 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the best of this usc. Offense will, be really strong all? 544 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: Right WHO do you Got So, I mentioned kave on 545 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: thibodeau so we're going to go there just because, he 546 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: now has top one two three ceiling, because as an 547 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: edge rusher as a position that's valued as much AS. 548 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: It is in the nfl if YOU are a top 549 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: flight a, plus edge rusher edge rusher You're going to 550 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: get that you're going to command and. Get that kind of. 551 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: ATTENTION he's a fascinating study i mean WE. Mentioned his 552 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: ability against usc he really popped last year when he 553 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: was JUST let loose, against the usc offensive line and the. 554 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: Year before he was Incredible. He was great against utah 555 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: so he, is somebody that You Know unlike SOMEBODY like 556 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: keiden Slovas Or i mentioned in spencer rattler earlier on 557 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Late In games that keve on thibodeau has popped the 558 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: loudest when. The lights have been brightest he is next 559 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: to a bunch of new, starters ON the, defensive line 560 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: which i think in a Way. WILL be better for 561 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: oregon i think the guys that were there, before were, 562 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: sort of BIGGER slower types and now i think he's 563 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: the next to more Athletic Dudes, and guys like brandon 564 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: dorles and THERE'S guy popo o move i think. Is 565 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: how you pronounce it and so these guys are better 566 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: fit for better they're better fits for this specific Defense 567 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: that New defensive coordinator. Tim de ruter is running but 568 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: he does have, his Same DEFENSIVE line coach and deruter 569 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: i think, is handling outside Linebacker stuff which. Is where 570 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: thibodeau is moving he has had his hand in the ground, 571 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: these past couple of years but he is going to 572 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: be more of a, stand up edge rusher type which. 573 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: SHOULD find him somebody with i mean he'll, be. HE'LL 574 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: have more focus right I Think last, year in andy 575 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: avlos's defense he was lining, up inside a little bit 576 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: more inside tackles and, like a four eye technique and 577 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: so he'll. Find himself more single minded he still needs 578 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: to prove himself, more consistently against the run but actually 579 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: has been. Really good against the run and you know he's, 580 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: playing at, like SIX five two fifty so i don't 581 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: think he's, gonna put on you know four to THREE 582 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: defensive end. For the nfl, type weight but you know 583 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: he'll have to prove, him self, in the flat, you 584 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: know against you know running backs and swing, passes And 585 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: things like that and i'm sure guys are going to 586 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: try to pick on him if he isn't that flat 587 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: and he. Is Dropping back Into coverage but tim de 588 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: ruter's history with those stand Up Edge Rushers like von 589 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: miller evin weaver we saw just have tremendous SUCCESS at 590 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: linebacker for cal i think it's a Really Nice, Sign for, 591 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: cave on, THIBODEAU and fascinatingly week two i believe we 592 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: have depending, on where he lines up which side of. 593 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: The ball He lines Up It's, in columbus at Ohio 594 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: State and He Has Thayer, MUNFORD and nicholas pettif farrare 595 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: i think is how you pronounce the right Tackle Starting. 596 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: Right tackles for ohio state so it's one of those 597 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: things where when you watch the highlights of these, guys 598 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: when they get picked you want to see them. Pop 599 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: against those best teams You want to see AN alabama 600 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Player pop against, Lsu or Florida, or whatever and for 601 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: oregon you want To see him, Popping Against for this 602 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: here ohio state and They're on The road Against. Washington 603 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: and Utah and stanford that's where caveon is. Going To 604 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: make a difference because i'm a little Bit. Worried about 605 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: offense for Oregon But, if you, have kevon thibodeau you 606 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: know pressuring quarterbacks and, generating fumbles and changing fields which, 607 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: he can single handedly do. It's it's a game changer 608 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: and that's why he'll be picked. Probably in the top, 609 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: five and is the clear CLEAR best edge rusher That 610 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: i Have seen at oregon since i've been a fan for, 611 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: the past whatever it. Is, twenty some, odd years, yeah 612 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: big Dude, SIX five, two fifty yeah i, mean somewhat 613 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: of a tweener but playing it that it's a great 614 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: size for that stand up edge rusher right. Where he 615 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: HAS the speed, but like i you know there were 616 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: some clips of him in the spring game this Past 617 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: weekend going up against oregon's like fourteenth year left tackle 618 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: AND he was, giving up i don't know eighty five 619 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: ninety one hundred pounds to the dude and just knocked. 620 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Him back, with one hand so crazy explosive and is still. Scarily, 621 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: Not at his potential. 622 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah and if you watch any of the draft coverge over, 623 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: the last couple of days they kept talking about, how 624 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: HAVING that edge, rusher or i should say how having 625 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: a lack of edge rushers in this year's half, class 626 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: could make things interesting, not just in twenty twenty but 627 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one when more teams are. In the 628 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: market for one so clearly there will be, a market 629 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: for his, services if not at one. 630 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Probably, IN the, top three yeah i, mean and just, 631 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: like whatever well you want Whoever You want To Pick 632 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: chase Young Or Miles, garrett or von mill, like, he's 633 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: a gravity dude right you have to pay. SO much, 634 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: attention to him i Mean We saw it with chase. 635 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: Young in an unbelievable way He's Bigger. Built than keave, 636 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: on thibodeau but you know it's it's that it's a 637 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: rare jewel. To have somebody like that And Just, Like 638 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: you with kyle hamilton i'm never going to Be the 639 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: same as an Oregon Fan without Having kve On. THIBODEAU 640 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: and green. And yellow, I like it. 641 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: All, Right we're we're Right Next let's Stick with ohio 642 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: state Because Oregon he is playing, ohio State in week 643 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: two which i'm both. 644 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Crazy excited and Terrified For, i'm GOING to, Garrett wilson 645 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: who i know chris o'lave gets a lot of the 646 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: attention just because he's been doing it For. Longer For 647 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: The buck eyes but garret wilson at, receiver not a 648 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: huge dude but was a five star and completely justified 649 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: that five star rating. Coming out of high school SIX 650 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: foot one ninety and i think, was technically their most 651 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: well it depends, on how you define it but he 652 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: had More yards per, catch than olave. Last year so 653 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: crazy explosive majority of the time he did, play out 654 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: of the slot which is scary. Just in terms of 655 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: versatility he does have a new quarterback and it. Is 656 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: a position dependent position i'm not terribly worried about WHAT. 657 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: We. 658 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Assume will be cj, stroud it's a you know he's. 659 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: The guy Popping right now he and olave, out of 660 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: a crazy Deep, wide receiver room in columbus and just 661 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: every box, Is sort of checked right like. He's six foot, one, 662 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: ninety but you're like well he's got. To win fifty 663 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: fifty battles he's got to go up and get balls 664 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: because it's. Not, huge for a receiver oh he. Was 665 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: a star basketball player oh He's Already, proven it at 666 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: ohio state and, just so, flashing those elements you know 667 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: the ability to get Off jams at the line i'm. 668 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: Not worried at ALL. About, and so if cj stroud 669 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: we presume is anywhere near Where The past couple of, 670 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterbacks Have Been, ryan day and kevin wilson 671 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: will find a Number Of ways to get garrett wilson 672 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: the ball In. Space against Teams like oregon, they're AT 673 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: indiana this year Which I. Just Never Discount tom allen 674 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: defense's penn state down obviously, some playmakers from last year 675 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: and They're. On the road Against michigan but that's a, 676 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: michigan team with you know new DEFENSIVE minds controlling things which. 677 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: I Can Get into shortly so garrett wilson is just 678 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: one OF those fun dudes that I could even see 679 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: supplanting chris o'lave in terms of draft order because his. Athletic, 680 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Ceiling Is crazy. 681 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: High well ohio state has what the top two, Receivers, in, college. 682 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Football arguably yeah absolutely. BETWEEN wilson and a lave i 683 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: mean it would. You would be Hard pressed depending on 684 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: what alabama, Looks Like with You know bryce young and 685 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: bill O'Brien running things and what they get, out of 686 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: their receivers there it's very. Difficult to Find A duo 687 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: we hope justin ross comes Back, at full, STRENGTH for clemson. 688 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: BUT man i don't know i don't know which duo 689 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: in the country is competing With, With o' lobby and wilson. 690 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: So he'll have more than enough Opportunity To get his 691 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: at ohio state, and with a, new quarterback like you 692 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 2: said they'll. Be, fine at quarterback ultimately well. 693 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Because, they're, both gravitational dudes too right you can't just 694 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: can't or can't. Focus, on one of them Yeah well 695 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: that should be. That, should be pretty Scary Sorry rest 696 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Of The Big? Ten and dan's oregon? Ducks who else you? 697 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: Got? 698 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: YOU and GO again yeah I Mean i Mentioned. THAT 699 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: ohio state's at michigan I Want, to talk about aiden 700 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: hutchinson who's a fascinating Player. To Me because so michigan 701 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: so hutchinson. Breaks his leg last year he had come. 702 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: On strong in twenty nineteen, But This is you know 703 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: don brown, defense as we're Talking about and now AS 704 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: michigan moves on to i think, more of a specific 705 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: defense a lot, more three four one gapping which is 706 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: Always Nice for guys like aiden hutchinson who can both 707 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: get after the. Quarterback And stop the run aiden hutchinson 708 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: should have. A monster year this year he played more 709 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: outside Linebacker In the way that. Cavon thibodeau made That 710 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: transition he's bigger, than thibodeaux. At six six. Two seventy he's. A, 711 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: LEGACY his dad is actually i. Don't Know if you 712 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: remember aiden hutchinson was in the news talking about how 713 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: his DAD was weighing In On covid Stuff And. Kevin 714 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: WARREN and mile carditis and i always like when players 715 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: are sort of not, shying away from The Spotlight and 716 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: that's what. Aiden hutchinson has been doing he needs to keep. 717 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: Flashing more on the edge and you know has tantalizing 718 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: size right six six two seventy as a college like. 719 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: HYBRID end and outside linebacker i think the big thing 720 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: is going to be how quickly Can the entirety of 721 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: the Michigan front Pick up, On, it's what, mike McDonald, 722 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: Okay forget no it's right i'm going to do that for. 723 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: An Extended Period, of time and mo. Linguist the co, 724 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator it's you know quitti pay has gone and 725 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: there are guys who have shown in an amazing level of 726 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: Talent Up, front guys like donovan jeter but they got 727 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: pushed around Last Year and so healthy, aiden hutchinson, At 728 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: that size, you know, i've seen him you know mid to, 729 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: end of the first. Round maybe. Early second rounds it 730 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: does none, of that matters right now but he Is 731 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: going to be if michigan is going to get back 732 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: to where they Were Under. The best of don brown 733 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: he might be the biggest reason. That it needs to 734 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: have he's like the anchor essentially at. This point of that. Defense, 735 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: so A, fascinating player okay, and michigan By the. Way 736 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: they Have, washington Early They're, at wisconsin at penn State And. 737 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: They do host ohio state so that's if. He's popping 738 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: against those teams we're talking top. Fifteen, PICK something like 739 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: that yeah I Want to. 740 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: Talk about sam hall please samhowse six' One Two twenty 741 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: five quarterback north carolina thirty eight, touchdowns as a true. 742 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 2: Freshman had thirty, last year as. A sophomore he got 743 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: better his completion percentage jumped seven percent from sixty one 744 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: percent up to sixty eight percent through for almost as 745 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: many yards in, twenty twenty as twenty nineteen and, that's 746 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 2: with eighty fewer attempts so still a. Very very top 747 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: level talent probably the. Best quarterback in this. 748 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: Class, it's an interesting, question yeah in my view the. 749 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: Best quarterback in this Class It's either him Or Spencer, rattler. 750 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: Or Apparently tyler buckner. But tyler, Buckner's not eligible. 751 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: Not eligible maybe. They'll grant. Him. 752 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: A waiver we'll see great. 753 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: The offensive line should be fine and. Keep him upright 754 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 2: and protected it is pretty much a full reboot at 755 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: running back and. At the wide receiver spots that. Will 756 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 2: be interesting to see to have that kind of. Production 757 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: walk out the door what can he do with the 758 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: new cast of characters around him that that may be 759 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 2: the only thing he has yet to. Prove at, the, 760 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: collegiate level everything. Else though it's all there he, can 761 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: make all the throws he can do all the things 762 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: that you. 763 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: Need a quarterback to, do. 764 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: MAYBE a little undersize but i think THE prototype for 765 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 2: what an nfl quarterback is just from a size perspective 766 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: that sort of went out. 767 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: The window a, while Ago, good. 768 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: Acc schedule no clemson. Which is nice for him he 769 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: does Have A road tilt against virginia tech. To open 770 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 2: Up The, year he's Got, Florida state He's Got. Miami 771 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: he's got notre dame so he'll have an opportunity to 772 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: prove it again as he has two years running against 773 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: some of the. 774 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: Better teams on the. 775 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: Schedule The only two things that, I'd point, to, with 776 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: him first off again with so much, production walking out 777 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: the door he's going to need to find his groove with. 778 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: A new crop of players i don't know if that leads. 779 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 2: To any drop in production we'll just. Have to wait 780 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 2: and See the other thing is i've read that he's 781 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: got a tendency at to lock onto receivers and. NOT 782 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: work through his progressions i feel like we hear that 783 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: about nearly every college quarterback. Going to the next level 784 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: it's something. They Need, to work on trevor lawrence Honestly 785 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: is the only guy i've. Never Heard that criticism about. 786 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: So sam how no different he's going to have an 787 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: opportunity to make. Himself, Better, in that department otherwise. Dan 788 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: the numbers are there there's just there's so much. To 789 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: love about his, game he's got great, feet he moves 790 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 2: really well. Sometimes a little, too well, maybe you should 791 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: you know hang in the pocket a little, longer and 792 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: set his feet but. 793 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: He just he's so good he. Throws. 794 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: A terrific deep, ball again from my money the top 795 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: quarterback in the. Class in twenty twenty. 796 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: Two i'm NOT so sure i'm as i dug into 797 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: the numbers a little bit when you told me the 798 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: guys that you were, looking at the Performance Against granted, 799 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: AN excellent, notre dame defense i Mean How many points 800 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: Did Notre dame or did north carolina excuse me score 801 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: in the second half of A seventeen all, GAME at 802 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: i get it? I get any zero points he was 803 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: seventeen of. 804 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: Twenty seven in that game it was not his best 805 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: game by, any, Stretch of the imagination. 806 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: Right and so we're talking about numbers. Against an acc, 807 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: defensive slate that is fine but the one true killer 808 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: they played against zero second half points does not do 809 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: Much For me. FROM a sam howell perspective i dug 810 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: against some. Of the advanced numbers too there's not. A particularly. 811 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: Explosive PASSING offense they're efficient they i think were a 812 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: top fifteen offense in terms of passes to running backs. 813 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: Or passes into the backfield so it's. A lot of short, 814 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: stuff it's crazy explosive passing but, fortieth air yards per 815 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: pass so you're not seeing as and, this is with 816 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: experienced receivers maybe not seeing as much downfield. As you 817 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: would have liked and so that concerns me a little 818 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Bit That it's, like a russell, westbrook effect like chasing, 819 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: rebound like maybe the number the counting totals, aren't fully 820 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: the full story. Not fully The Full. Story that's great 821 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: english dan. HE'S obviously very very good i just worry 822 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: that it's such a quarterback friendly offense and had so 823 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: much skill around him that we are going to see 824 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: as clear as day what he's like when he has to. Be, 825 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: the clear only reason no there's guys that, are going 826 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,479 Speaker 1: to come in and you know that we're so promising early. 827 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: Last year, AS rotation. GUYS but man i am i 828 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: am just Fascinated And so curious about sam howell this 829 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: year because completing damn near. Seventy, percent of your, passes 830 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: again he's probably more it's, probably like sixty two percent 831 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: but he just had so many layups in. Terms of the. 832 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: PASSING game it's it's fascinating i, keep Saying the same 833 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: thing but i'd like to see him, go downfield a 834 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: bit more let me close out my slate Of Five. 835 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:01,479 Speaker 2: By. Talking About, des, Ridder, please desmond ridder quarterback. Cincinnati six' 836 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: four two fifteen we were both stunned when we did 837 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 2: our pre Draft live stream seven thirty On Thursday night 838 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: to see that des ridder is so high. 839 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: In some of. 840 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: These twenty, TWENTY two mock drafts in one, i think 841 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: he was third OVERALL pick first and FOREMOST before i 842 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: get into. How i feel about that PERSONALLY definitely speaks 843 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 2: to where the nfl. Is at as a quarterback league 844 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: you've got a guy with his, measurables against six' four. 845 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: Two fifteen can run like the wind there's a lot of. 846 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: Reason TO be Excited About. THAT player and i like 847 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 2: des ridder i liked him demonstrably more than. You last 848 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 2: year if memory. Serves yep he's got crazy physical tools 849 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: any quarterback that's got these kind of physical. Tools deserves 850 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: To be in this discussion he was cincinnati's leading rusher 851 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: in terms of yardage in. Terms of touchdowns yewelve touchdowns 852 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 2: last year copletion percentage eleven points higher. In twenty twenty 853 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: than in twenty nineteen he had, a little, bit of. 854 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: A sophomore slump super coachable very talented the fact that 855 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: HE got better. 856 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: In a weird year i think. 857 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: Speaks VOLUMES to what he can do so i look forward. 858 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: To seeing him improve again the season cincinnati. Should have 859 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 2: a really good, Team AGAIN what scares me is this, 860 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: the nfl Is a pass first league and des. Ritter 861 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 2: is not a pass. First quarterback he's still a raw. 862 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: PASSER maybe he'll, go nuts this year i don't know 863 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: but my guess is that we're going to see him 864 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: run a, lot of what we saw last year a, 865 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: lot of what we, saw last year him on the, 866 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: move him making plays with his feet and that's going 867 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: to leave the Same questions about his. Passing GAME that 868 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 2: i've had all. ALONG so i like a skill set 869 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 2: i need. TO see more in the passing department i 870 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: can't possibly, justify taking. 871 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: Him in the top ten. As some. Of these mock drafts. 872 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 2: Had it's tough he's a project player maybe you draft 873 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: him if you've, got another veteran in front of him. 874 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: IF he can come in and learn i still remain 875 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 2: skeptical that his passing GAME. 876 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: IS going to translate to. The nfl i. 877 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: Just Don't see it He's certainly. Not lamar jackson. Is 878 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 2: different calber altogether so WE'LL see this is the project 879 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 2: that I am very interested in, seeing how nfl teams, 880 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: GRADE him out because as of now I. Don't see 881 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 2: it translating to the, nfl it doesn't mean it's not 882 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: possible it doesn't mean he won't grow by leaps. AND 883 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 2: bounds GOING into twenty twenty one i just i need 884 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 2: to PUMP the brakes on a guy. THAT i already 885 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: like a, great deal. 886 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: I do see some similarities not this is not a 887 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: Direct Comparison to. What the evaluation of justin, herbert was 888 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: where A Good size, arm he doesn't have justin, Herbert's 889 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: arm but good size in general desmond matter is, What six' 890 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: four six Four Two fifteen and The Big knock on, 891 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: justin herbert wasn't about justin herbert per se but was 892 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: about didn't, really have true killers out wide at receiver 893 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: was in a System That didn't fully take advantage of What. 894 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: Justin HERBERT was able to do at, oregon so i 895 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: understand from a YOU know the prototype right now in the, 896 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: nfl as somebody who is athletic at quarterback who Can 897 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: Buy time Everybody Sees, Like guys like, patrick mahomes And 898 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,479 Speaker 1: Russell wilson guys like that, even though russell wilson doesn't 899 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: have the size you're looking for, that next, guy who 900 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: is such a good crazy athlete who perhaps his stock 901 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: is not where it should be just because of where 902 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: he's playing and you. Know The, surrounding cast that he 903 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: is with and cincinnati, for as strong as they were 904 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: last year they, didn't have a crazy scary player Out 905 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: Wide all Due Respect. To WAS it Michael young and. 906 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: JAYSHAWN jackson so i am i'm exceedingly Curious I say that. 907 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: A lot, now about desmond ritter to justify i, mean 908 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: it's not like he started the hype. But this was not, 909 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: a DOWNFIELD passing team they finished ninety third and i have, 910 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: it right in here. In passing marginal explosiveness and that 911 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: is correct. But he completed a lot of shorter stuff, 912 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: But your precious per past seventy eighth. NATIONALLY so perhaps 913 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily on, him A receivers might not be 914 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: getting separation but i'd like. To see him test a 915 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: little bit more i'd like to see that they went 916 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: three and out as an. Offense a little bit too 917 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: often for me and this year with We'll See. What 918 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: happens to the defense without, marcus freeman maybe they're involved 919 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: in more shootouts maybe he's counted. On to go downfield 920 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: a little. Bit, more but it caught me by surprise 921 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: similarly just because. HE'S physically that guy and was pretty 922 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: accurate i, just, in, watching him never thought to. Myself 923 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah here's a, FIRST round quarterback and I'M, NOT 924 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: a scout i am not a gm i. Am a 925 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: dumb dumb most. Of, THE time just took, Me, BY 926 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: surprise yeah i. 927 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: Think that's fair dan i think that's Fair. And again we're. 928 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: NOT rooting against Des ritter i'm certainly. Not i like 929 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: des ridder a great deal i'm excited to see. What 930 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: he can do in, TWENTY twenty one but. 931 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: It's just it happens i mean almost annually where there's 932 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback that, is in this, This Discussion, Where you're 933 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: Like really. This guy daniel jones okay that i'm Not 934 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: This is not a direct Comparison Because desmond rinter, has 935 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity that daniel jones does not which is another 936 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: year in, college. When we're having this? Conversation just fascinating 937 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: fascinating who's your last guy we'll stick with impressive size 938 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: tie pro, transition pro segue with the most, Impressive Size, 939 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: perhaps of anybody in college football evan neil Who should 940 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle for alabama. At six seven 941 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: three sixty. 942 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: Six? 943 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: SEVEN sixty what are. You Supposed to do i guess be. 944 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: Amazing evan neil was and all everything recruits he, was 945 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: too good to keep off, the field played at guard 946 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: his freshman. Year, was a starting right tackle last year 947 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: alabama of course is down key dudes next to Him 948 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: Who are on that Line and Land In dickerson who 949 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 1: won The, rimington and Alex leatherwood. Who won the outland 950 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: both all american dudes he should be. More moving over 951 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: to left tackle this. Year is an absolute mountain Of, 952 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: a guy and the fascinating thing, with alabama my fun 953 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: WORD of the day fascinating is they've got i think 954 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: the two. BEST Tackles coming in as blue chip GUYS 955 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: jc latham is the big name who I Think might slide. 956 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: To right tackle with Evan Neil going, left AND in 957 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: terms of evan neil's season and i mean we're talking 958 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: New Offensive line coach, New offensive coordinator and, doug moron 959 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: offensive line bill O'Brien offensive Coordinator And. A much more 960 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: mobile Quarterback Than, mac jones all due respect to mac 961 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: jones maybe the most. Lethal Lethally efficient quarterback in college 962 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 1: football history bryce young is going to make the lives 963 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: of his offensive line more difficult if he's running around buying, 964 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 1: time because he's. Certainly, a much, more athletic athletically gifted 965 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: quarterback otherwise no surprise the. Passing game should have been 966 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: A Good, shape the Running Game, even Without najee. Harris 967 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: it'll be brian robinson. MAYBE jace McClellan they're going to. 968 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: Be FANTASTIC i have no Doubt About, that and i 969 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: guess just for EVAN neil it's playing. Left tackle in 970 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: the sec will be new he will. HAVE to, prove 971 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: that he, has that combination i mean physically he's there 972 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: but that combination of being both nimble AND flexible, and 973 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: both strong and aggressive is i mean right tackle now, 974 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: kind of seems as, important as. Left tackle, but all 975 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: the same new position you know you're. Flipping Everything and 976 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: new coaches and what's expected doug, maron comes in WITH. 977 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: A ton of experience largely at the nfl but if 978 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: you remember his What, now appears to be. BETTER tenure 979 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 1: At syracuse winning eight games twice, i think, alabama's Offensive 980 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: Line is in incredible incredible shape and evan neil is just. 981 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: The next guy in line to be incredible Alabama has 982 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: the new starting edge, rushers for Miami early on in 983 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: the SEASON they're At. Florida at a and m lsu 984 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: at auburn so if he's locking down edge rushers for any, 985 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: of those teams or all of those teams he's going. To, 986 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: be a top five, seven. 987 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 2: Three pigs, well especially at that size at that size 988 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: if you're talking, about the, AGGRESSION and athleticism at six. 989 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: SEVEN three, sixty i can't stress. IT enough i. MEAN this, 990 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: guy's the limit i don't know i mean all these 991 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: guys that are playing tackle. That are Six Six sixty 992 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: seven sixty eight. They Get Jonathan, ogden comps and that's 993 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: fine but evan neil even if he, IF he can 994 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: get down a little BIT i mean he's listed at 995 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: three six i don't always, do you that three, forty 996 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: five or. SOMETHING and playing left tackle he's crazy long. I, just, 997 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: he's just gonna swallow people up. Yeah well and it's 998 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: the reality of it. 999 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,439 Speaker 2: To come back to what you said before One Thing 1000 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 2: that you read a, lot about evan. Neil, is given 1001 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 2: his size he's surprisingly flexible yeah guy can move, and 1002 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: pretty much everybody he's going, up against at least, in 1003 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 2: the college game is smaller than him. So he's getting 1004 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: leverage on all those guys he's really good with, his 1005 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 2: hands to keep. Those guys off him and that helps, 1006 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: him against the smaller. 1007 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: Guys who are speedy he's. 1008 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 2: Able to just, push him to the side so you 1009 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: know everyone's. Got To get better as, a pass blocker 1010 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: evan neil included in that but he's so far ahead 1011 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: of the game given his size and the fact that 1012 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 2: he's got. Quickness and agility In ways that others don't 1013 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: so not that alabama needs. To get any better along 1014 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: the offensive line they had a couple, guys Drafted Already 1015 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: over the past few days but evan neil looks. To 1016 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: be the next stud along that line. 1017 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: And A big upset that a guy named, evan neil 1018 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: is not A red shirt freshman blue. Chip quarterback for georgia. 1019 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,919 Speaker 1: True double, first name, it was his destiny oh well. 1020 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 2: All right so there you go a quick what ten 1021 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 2: pack of players that we've BEEN reading about in the 1022 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two nfl mock. 1023 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: Drafts that we have taken a. Look at ten, Piece, 1024 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: nuggets if you will ten. PIECE nuggets yeah, chrispy meaty 1025 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: facts and knowledge i don't? 1026 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: Know? 1027 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: Should we call this TEN piece nuggets, yeah, We, gotta 1028 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: get that seo in there though ty WE Got to 1029 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: Get like twenty twenty. Two, nfl draft look, ahead ten 1030 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 1: piece nuggets. OKAY longest show title yeah we've, ever used i. Will, 1031 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: find k very, Confusing VERY extremely Confusing, yeah h all right? So, 1032 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: I got dan anything else for you no i'm going 1033 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: to try to follow up my sad. Dad lunch with an, 1034 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: acceptable dad second Lunch. 1035 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: I'll, eat some protein don't forget as dan. Said as 1036 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 2: we said earlier in the show so now what our 1037 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: new mini series That. We're excited about that drops starting 1038 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 2: next tuesday you can also go on out to verballers 1039 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: dot com view the announced video and also get access 1040 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: to a. 1041 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,240 Speaker 1: Lot of the bonus. 1042 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: Stuff that we're going to be Dropping, Here as part 1043 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 2: of the extended coverage dan we're gonna be doing some 1044 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 2: live stuff on discord as well, to help support the 1045 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 2: launch of the miniseries. So we're, EXCITED to take a 1046 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 2: look back more. IMPORTANTLY i think to take a look 1047 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: forward i don't know how you feel about the state of, 1048 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 2: the WORLD in the twenty twenty one season but i 1049 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: have felt for a couple months running now that there is. Light, 1050 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: at the end of the proverbial, tunnel no it is 1051 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 2: not an oncoming train. But it is hopefully some sense 1052 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 2: of normalcy as, college football fans going into the fall 1053 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: here it'll be exciting to kind of just get back 1054 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 2: out there and hopefully get. 1055 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: Back to normal with respect to college. 1056 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 2: Football we agree With That, guy over There My Good. 1057 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 2: Friend dan rubinstein form myself tie hilton brand we'll. Talk 1058 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: to you, all in, a few days in the meantime 1059 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: stay solved nice