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Speaker 1: Well, good evening to everyone, Welcome to Stinsfield.

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Speaker 2: We've got a monster update in the case of Nancy Guthrie,

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Speaker 2: the mother of today's show host Savannah Guthrie, and her

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Speaker 2: disappearance and alleged kidnapping. So right now we are getting

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Speaker 2: video into the REV newsroom of SWAT team vehicles leaving

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Speaker 2: the Pima County Sheriff's office. Those vehicles headed into the

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Speaker 2: neighborhood around Annie Guthrie's home, which is a few miles

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Speaker 2: from Nancy Guthrie's homes. The mother, Annie is the sister

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Speaker 2: of Savannah Guthrie. We are also told there at least

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Speaker 2: a dozen FBI agents in and around the neighborhood of

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Speaker 2: Annie Guthrie's home and seen outside of the home. This

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Speaker 2: after they were conducting numerous searches yesterday and today of

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Speaker 2: that house as well. We get this news after getting

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Speaker 2: what could be the evidence that cracked the case wide open.

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Speaker 2: Our buddy, FBI Director Cash Pttel released this video on

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Speaker 2: his Twitter account and it shows who they believe is

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Speaker 2: the alleged kidnapper of her trying to cover up the

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Speaker 2: nest doorbell camera. Now, what's interesting about this video is

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Speaker 2: that I first thought whoever did this was very good

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Speaker 2: goes back to the flower bed and tries to pull

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Speaker 2: like branches apart to cover up the ring doorbell. If

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Speaker 2: you had cased the house and you knew there was

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Speaker 2: a ring doorbell, wouldn't you just stick a piece of

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Speaker 2: duct tape over it before you ultimately removed it, which

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Speaker 2: is what they did. Now he's also got a gun

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Speaker 2: on him, hanging from the front of his waist, and

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, I've been in and around the gun industry

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Speaker 2: a firearm in that manner, coming literally directly down from

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Speaker 2: the front of his belly, under his belly button, hanging down.

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Speaker 1: They're all very strange.

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Speaker 2: Now from the video we can see he may have

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Speaker 2: brown eyes, facial hair. There is, of course this specific gate.

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Speaker 2: You could throw the video back up there of anything

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Speaker 2: you got, the specific gate of the suspect as well,

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Speaker 2: And the big question would be would his mother recognize him?

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Speaker 2: That's a term when you see him there, and I

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Speaker 2: believe we have some pictures now that were of this suspect.

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Speaker 2: Would the mother know who that is? From clothing from

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Speaker 2: how he walks someone close to him. My belief is

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Speaker 2: someone would and the tip line is probably being flooded

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Speaker 2: they are very close to making an arrest. Now, this

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Speaker 2: video was obtained through back end channels. Both Google and

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Speaker 2: Nest were working on almost a week to be able

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Speaker 2: to capture this from video that was cashed in the

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Speaker 2: back end areas, not on the direct recording device. This

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Speaker 2: is homicide Detective Paul Ciolino on Now many of the

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Speaker 2: theories that are popping up here, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think she was kidnapped.

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Speaker 3: We would have heard listen, there would have been a video,

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Speaker 3: There would have been a photograph. The would have been

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Speaker 3: something a lock of hair, drop of blood, something mailed

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Speaker 3: to somebody so they could verify. Yes, in fact, these

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Speaker 3: people have my mother. Kidnappers want to get paid quickly.

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Speaker 3: They don't want this thing to linger.

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Speaker 2: Well, yesterday was the deadline for this six million dollar ransom,

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Speaker 2: right and we don't believe that it was paid. The

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Speaker 2: reality is, we don't even know if the people offering

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Speaker 2: up the ransom notes are real or if they're just

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Speaker 2: a fraud trying to capitalize on a crime. And so

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Speaker 2: as we talk about that, this is Harvey Levin with TMZ.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones.

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Speaker 2: Who continue to get these notes from the potential kidnapper

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Speaker 2: holding Nancy hostage.

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Speaker 1: Potential. I say, because we don't know what's real and

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Speaker 1: what's not, Harvey.

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Speaker 4: Levin, and they say, it is in the best interest

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Speaker 1: As soon as possible.

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Speaker 4: So you know, this was way back when the first

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Speaker 4: ransom note was issued and days past and on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: Savannah said, we are going to pay this. So it's

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Speaker 4: baffling to us. We just don't understand what has transpired.

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Speaker 4: But the account we're looking at does not show a deposit,

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Speaker 2: So no deposit and baffling what is transpired. It's not

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Speaker 2: baffling to me. They wouldn't send the money. What you're

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Speaker 2: looking at there is a live picture of Nancy Guthrie's

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Speaker 2: I can feel the energy changing inside this investigation. And

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Speaker 2: this ransom note may be a fake. As we told you,

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Speaker 2: Nancy may have been killed. This could be someone trying

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Speaker 2: to capitalize off another crime. It could be the killers,

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Speaker 2: trying to throw somebody off the track Ciolino again.

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Speaker 3: And it's always a negotiation, right. The first figured I

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Speaker 3: good business deal, there's going to be a negotiation, but

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a fast and hard one. And

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Speaker 3: there's been no negotiations. No one's called up and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: where is my money? That hasn't happened For a simple

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Speaker 3: reason is nobody's kidnapped Ronald.

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Speaker 1: So he's pretty confident about that. Is she did someplace,

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Speaker 1: and all of this is a ruse.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now to discuss this private

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Speaker 2: investigator of over thirty years and author of the Last Lawman,

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Speaker 2: Nils Gravalis, is with us. Nils, great to have you.

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Speaker 1: On the program.

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Speaker 5: Oh, good evening, Grin, How are you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm great, It's great to have you on. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of what's starting to transpire now, Nils.

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Speaker 5: Well, it always the question in my mind from the

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Speaker 5: start was who decided this was a kidnapping. In order

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Speaker 5: to stage a high profile kidnapping of this nature, you

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Speaker 5: need extensive planning, logistics, reconnaissance. In the modern era, you

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Speaker 5: have to have the ability to suppress all of your

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Speaker 5: cell phone data, your license plates against the flock cameras,

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing, and the FBI and Pema County

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Speaker 5: sheriffs would have had a lot to work with from

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Speaker 5: the very start, if you know, bowing Ma. So this

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Speaker 5: always looked like a homicide investigation to me, and I

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Speaker 5: wondered from the start if Harvey Levin was the one

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Speaker 5: who announced that it was a kidnapping, because he was

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Speaker 5: the first one I ever heard denoted as a kidnapping.

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Speaker 5: What I heard from the Pima County sheriff thirty six

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Speaker 5: hours after she went missing was that the home was

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Speaker 5: a crime scene. I never heard the sheriff say that

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Speaker 5: this was a kidnapping.

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if Harvey Levin made up that

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Speaker 2: somehow they were getting ransom notes. It went not only

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Speaker 2: to TMZ, but it also went to one of the

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Speaker 2: local TV stations. And for everything we say about TMZ,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you another one the Daily Mail as another

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Speaker 2: one gets a bad rap. It's usually spot on about everything.

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Speaker 2: TMZ often nails it on things like this.

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Speaker 5: Neils not saying they didn't get to ransom notes. But

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Speaker 5: I think this is opportunity cockroaches like the character arrested

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Speaker 5: in Hawthorne last week making a ransom demand under the

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Speaker 5: cover of the Internet using a void blind a man

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Speaker 5: who's already defending fraud charges that the state is brought

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Speaker 5: against him, a former county employee. So I never believed

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Speaker 5: that this was a bona fide kidnapping for the lack

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Speaker 5: like that. I want to caution your viewers that in

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Speaker 5: this modern era, it would be very easy for an

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Speaker 5: artistic extortionist to use AI to create a fake proof

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing. We have seen none of this, Okay, Now,

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Speaker 5: it's a special operation worthy of the Green Berets or

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Speaker 5: the KGB to conduct a kidnapping of this scale against

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Speaker 5: a high profile individual. We do have kidnappings very frequently

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Speaker 5: in this country. We don't hear about them because it's

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Speaker 5: cartel activity where it's one you know, gang victimizing another

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Speaker 5: gang and it's forbearants or money or heroin or something

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Speaker 5: like that. So what we're looking at here looks like

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Speaker 5: a straight up homicide investigation to me, Grant and I

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Speaker 5: think Detective Celino in New York is right on the

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Speaker 5: money with this.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, Nils. The first day we reported

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Speaker 2: on this with great caution, I had offered up the

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Speaker 2: idea that she may already be dead, and that was

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Speaker 2: my initial thought on all this.

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Speaker 1: Now we're still praying that. I hope you're wrong. I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I hope Ceolino is wrong. I hope we're all wrong.

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Speaker 2: And she comes back home and the family, you know,

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Speaker 2: can have a great reunion.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that's going to happen. We're going

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on this.

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Speaker 2: Nils Gravellas, thank you so much for coming on the

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Speaker 2: program tonight, and it's great to have your insight in this.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for lending me your microphone and camera grant.

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Speaker 5: Safe out there, it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're very kind, and that it is.

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Speaker 2: I tell everybody out there keep your head on a

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Speaker 2: swivel and honestly, keep your subscriptions up to date. One

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Speaker 2: of the problems here was that Nancy Guthrie did not

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Speaker 2: have her subscription to her Nest home security system up

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Speaker 2: to date, and it wasn't recording a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Cost a lot of time. Time that can save lives.

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Speaker 2: In the end, We're going to keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: this to see if any arrests are made as they

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Speaker 2: are in the neighborhood of Annie Guthrie, the sister and

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Speaker 2: daughter's home, daughter of Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood. We shall see

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Speaker 2: how this plays out. Today, three big cell phone companies

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Speaker 2: were put on notice by the United States Senate. How

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Speaker 2: dare you give away our cell phone data? That from

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Speaker 2: senators to AT and T.

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Speaker 1: T Mobile and Verizon.

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Speaker 2: Remember those companies gave this data up of sitting in a

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Speaker 2: state senators to Jack Smith and his Trump persecution panel.

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Speaker 6: What about the four hundred and thirty Republican groups? What

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Speaker 6: about the one hundred and ninety seven subpoenas. We're not

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Speaker 6: going to give up on this. This is a major

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Speaker 6: breakdown of constitutional checks and balances, a major breakdown of

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Speaker 6: protecting people. You have a contrasial obligation to protect and

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest weaponization of the law, but that

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Speaker 6: is yet to be determined.

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Speaker 2: You know, CEOs of these big cell phone companies should

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Speaker 2: knowing that there were constitutional issues here. They didn't push back.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they rolled over. This is Marsha Blackburn.

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Speaker 7: So what you're basically saying is it took Jack Smith

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Speaker 7: issuing secrets of penis for the records of duly elected

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Speaker 7: members of Congress as part of a weaponized investigation of

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Speaker 7: President Trump for Verizon to finally realize that it probably

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Speaker 7: could have and I quote you better processes.

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Speaker 1: Is that accurate, Tairman Blackburn?

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Speaker 3: We should have had a better process to address the situation.

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Speaker 2: So they admit they had no process to address the situation.

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Speaker 2: Forget about a better process.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have any.

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Speaker 2: And I think these woke cell phone companies were all

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Speaker 2: anti Trump, and they were very happy to oblige, not

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Speaker 2: thinking that President Trump would ever be.

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Speaker 1: Back in office. Well guess what wrong?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing because many of the mainstream media

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Speaker 2: outlets are not covering this story. I searched this up

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Speaker 2: on Fox News, couldn't find it. Now why because the

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Speaker 2: cover up of the Trump which hunt continues even from

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Speaker 1: This is Chuck.

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Speaker 8: Grassley today, Verizon at and T Mobile, we will have

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Speaker 8: a chance to explain themselves today, mayan Senator Johnson's oversight

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Speaker 8: of these companies has identified that Verizon at and T

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Speaker 8: and T Mobile received at least eighty four Arctic Frost

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Speaker 2: You know, they're flooding America with billions of dollars to

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Speaker 2: Joshua Philip, He's been a friend of mine for a while, Joshua,

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Speaker 2: Great to have.

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Speaker 12: Good to see you man.

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Speaker 2: What did you make, Joshua of this hearing today?

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Speaker 12: What I made of it was thank goodness. This is

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Speaker 12: They were talking, of course about Neville Singh, one of

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Speaker 2: Play another clip for you, because this is very troubling

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Speaker 2: Joshua is what are they doing here with China funding?

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Speaker 12: FFA, Yeah, so they mentioned Seingenta first of all. Singenta

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Speaker 14: Roll that clip for josh So what's happening with foreign influence?

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Speaker 14: They're using these narratives and it actually it brings about

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Speaker 2: You joshuall, what have you found that China is doing

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so the Epic Times actually had an investigative article

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Speaker 12: This is a huge battlefield that I think we're finally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing stuff, Joshua Phillip.

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Speaker 2: The work you do over the Epic Times that they

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Speaker 2: My only advice to you is don't go to China

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling my friend.

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Speaker 12: One way trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Real quick. I'll tell you what Epstein files. Sometimes some

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Speaker 2: doozies come out. It turns out that Donald Trump made

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Speaker 1: You're stopping Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Trump also told the police chief that Gallaine Maxwell was evil.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he kicks.

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Speaker 2: Him out of Marilago and was trying to get law

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Speaker 15: Caroline Leavitt, I'm telling you is that what President Trump

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Speaker 1: You would think, Caroline, that is what they would think. Instead.

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Speaker 2: No, now they're claiming that President Trump somehow didn't do enough.

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Speaker 2: Do you see how deceitful the mainstream media is? And

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Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt and the Yankee pin stripes, we love it

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Speaker 2: Republican lawmakers are now suggesting we need to be more

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Speaker 2: Another partial government shut down looms with this DHS funding

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Speaker 1: By their parents. Now, let me make one thing very clear.

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Speaker 2: Amnesty for these kids has to be off the table.

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Speaker 2: certainly not if you came during the Joe Biden era.

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Speaker 17: Roll with the American people overwhelmingly support that. But what

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Speaker 17: they do believe, if you've been in this country right

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Speaker 17: or wrong for five, ten, fifteen, twenty years, your children

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Speaker 17: and your grandchildren are American citizens. People don't want to

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Speaker 17: see families broken apart. And so there's got to be

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Speaker 17: a legal path forward, not a path to citizenship, but

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Speaker 17: a legal path forward for people to come out of

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Speaker 17: the shadows so that they can work legally, that they

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Speaker 17: can pay their taxes, pay any back taxes, ode pay

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Speaker 17: a fine, not collect government benefits, and not commit a crime.

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Speaker 2: So that is not what I believe, and that is

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Speaker 2: a Republican. His name is Michael, and he's part of

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Speaker 2: the problem. This is this moderate view of all of this.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now. Rav Correspondent Ben Berkwoman.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I wanted to bring Ben

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Speaker 2: on tonight is because he's been in and around the kids.

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Speaker 2: He's been in and around the gang members, he's been

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Speaker 2: in and around the parents. Nobody has a better view

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Speaker 2: of what should really happen than Ben when it comes

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Speaker 2: to immigration.

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Speaker 1: Ben, I want to welcome you to the program. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on tonight.

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Speaker 18: Hey, thank you, Grant.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you. Ben. I texted you this morning.

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Speaker 2: I said, look, these kids are not culpable for being

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Speaker 2: brought here by their parents, especially if you're a five

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Speaker 2: year old.

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Speaker 1: I think you're a victim of a.

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Speaker 2: Crime, but you can't be rewarded for your parents' bad behavior.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you, Ben, and it's a

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Speaker 2: difficult question, what do we do with those kids that

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Speaker 2: are here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's not a difficult question for me. When you

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Speaker 18: texted me this morning, I was so glad you invited

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Speaker 18: me on to talk about this. Not a single one

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Speaker 18: of them should be allowed to remain here. I have

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Speaker 18: run into you. You've seen the coverage I've done from

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Speaker 18: South America, Central America, Europe, and all the way through

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Speaker 18: the United States on the invasion of America and now

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Speaker 18: the removal of illegals from America and out of my time,

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Speaker 18: the most arrogant, disrespectful group of people that I've found

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Speaker 18: are the DACA kids. I have not found a single

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Speaker 18: one yet who is appreciative of America. I've not found

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Speaker 18: a single one yet who feels like their parents did

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Speaker 18: something wrong and it's a blessing that they're here. Every

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Speaker 18: single one that I have encountered is arrogant, believes they

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Speaker 18: deserve it, believes that nobody can take it from them,

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Speaker 18: to the point where they're out there in the front

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Speaker 18: of these lines, chanting no borders, no walls, no USA

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Speaker 18: at all, undocumented and unafraid. The single most arrogant people

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Speaker 18: that I've met are the DACA kids, and so very

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Speaker 18: simple to me. Not one of them should be able

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Speaker 18: to stay. Everyone who's here illegally should be expected to

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Speaker 18: be deported. And unless we set that mindset, you're gonna

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Speaker 18: have people like Mike Lawler who continue this bs continue them.

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Speaker 18: And look, you can't say you're gonna stay here legally,

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Speaker 18: and it's not amnesty, it's amnesty, and all you do

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Speaker 18: is send the signal that I'm going to stay. My

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Speaker 18: parents are gonna follow behind me, and we're going to

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Speaker 18: continue this cycle.

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Speaker 1: It has to stop, all right. I'm gonna just play

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Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate with you.

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Speaker 2: I tend to side with you on this, But I've

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Speaker 2: also seen you with the young kids. I've seen you

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Speaker 2: in the Dairyen Gap, with young kids that are coming

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Speaker 2: to America, giving them water, caring for them, rescuing.

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Speaker 1: Them at times. Yes, yes, so.

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Speaker 2: Will you at some point you say, Okay, you're a

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Speaker 2: two year old, you're now, you're fifteen, you've been here

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Speaker 2: all your life, we send you back to Nicaragua.

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Speaker 1: I guess so. But boy o, boy, that's that's rough stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it breaks my heart.

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Speaker 18: Look when I was in the Dairien Gap and I

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Speaker 18: saw these kids, the worst case, I saw dead, dead bodies,

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Speaker 18: and undoubtedly the number of kids it's hard to even quantify.

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Speaker 18: It's tragic. It's heartbreaking. But the thing you don't do

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Speaker 18: is reward bad behavior. And again, if you came when

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Speaker 18: you were two, and you're here and you're fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 18: what I want to see is one of these kids say,

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Speaker 18: God bless America. I'm so thankful to be here. My

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Speaker 18: parents screwed up. I'll go back if you want me to.

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Speaker 18: But if you'd let me stay, i'd be a great American.

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Speaker 18: I have not seen a single one do that. Instead, unfortunately,

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Speaker 18: they're put into the indoctrination system. By the time that

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Speaker 18: they're teenagers. They believe that they have a right to

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Speaker 18: be here. They hate this country. They spout the Larraza garbage. Again,

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Speaker 18: this is personal experience. I haven't seen a single one.

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Speaker 18: Now that's the two totally different things from children being

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Speaker 18: brought here by their parents.

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Speaker 1: It breaks my heart.

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Speaker 18: I think all of this, even the Dhaka kids, they

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Speaker 18: only have their parents to blame. You're absolutely right on that,

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Speaker 18: But we don't reward that. We can't reward that because

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Speaker 18: all you're doing is saying, hey, you do that again. Look,

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Speaker 18: we'll do it again at some point point.

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Speaker 1: It's just like Reagan.

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Speaker 18: Reagan's one of Reagan's worst policies, and he was a

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Speaker 18: great president. But any sort of leeway you give on

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Speaker 18: open borders, you're going to invite more illegals to come,

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Speaker 18: and we're gonna be stuck in the cycle. And the

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Speaker 18: reality is grant this isn't about fixing the problem. This

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Speaker 18: is a straw man argument by the Democrats simply to

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Speaker 18: get more illegal immigration. It's us compromising in their direction,

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Speaker 18: always us going their direction, when instead we should be

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Speaker 18: saying nope, no more. The problem is we gave up

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Speaker 18: that leverage when we passed everything else under the spending

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Speaker 18: bill except for DHS, and so now we're in this

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Speaker 18: position where you've got these rhino Republicans like Lawler who

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Speaker 18: are bending over backwards.

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Speaker 1: To cave to the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let me play one more clip for you, just

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Speaker 2: to really put you in a bad little before you

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Speaker 2: leave and go away.

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Speaker 19: This is.

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Speaker 1: A GOP representative Maria Salazar.

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Speaker 20: Listen to this, but don't touch the nannies or the gardeners,

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Speaker 20: or the ones who are picking up the jalapeno peppers

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Speaker 20: or the oranges or the berries, or the ones in

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Speaker 20: the dairy houses. Come on, those people are helping us

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Speaker 20: eat better cheaper homes, cheaper vegetables, and better fruits. So

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Speaker 20: those are the ones that we are trying to give

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Speaker 20: a dignified status.

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Speaker 1: Ben, I'll give you the last word here.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt that there are many well intentioned

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Speaker 2: illegal aliens here. That doesn't mean they didn't break the law.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that they shouldn't go, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's where I am. You've got to deport all of them,

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Speaker 2: so we have closed borders and nobody else's incentivized to

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Speaker 2: come here. Again, your thoughts fifteen to twenty seconds if

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Speaker 2: you can.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, the soft bigotry of low expectations, that's racism two

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Speaker 18: point zero in twenty twenty six. I know, every single

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Speaker 18: one of them got to go. We prioritize the worst first,

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Speaker 18: but at some point we get rid of them because

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Speaker 18: they're taking our health care, they're taking our education, they're

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Speaker 18: lowering the cost of wages for American citizens.

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Speaker 1: They all got to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they play a very negative effect on the American economy.

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Speaker 2: And don't believe the Democrat so they tell you somehow

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Speaker 2: they're integral to all of this. Ben Berkwam, as always,

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Speaker 2: it's a great conversation. I appreciate you coming on, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Gret Absolutely all right, folks, Pete

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Speaker 2: haig Seth and the Trump administration are working hard to

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Speaker 2: hold defense contractors accountable. Now waste, fraud and abuse under

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Speaker 2: the microscope.

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Speaker 1: Of Pete Haig Seth. That is next. Welcome back to everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what a tribute to Real America's Voice

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Speaker 2: and all of you is the access.

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Speaker 1: We get with this administration.

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Speaker 2: Our own David Zeer spent the day with Secretary of

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Speaker 2: War Pete haig Seth, who's visiting defense contractors. David Zeer

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Speaker 2: joins us Now Rev a correspondent host of Breaking Point

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Speaker 2: here on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 1: David, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 21: Hey, how are you, Grant good evening. An incredible day yesterday,

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Speaker 21: so I thought.

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Speaker 22: You were gonna yes, go ahead, David, We're going to

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Speaker 22: throw to that gagle I did with Pete Hegseth on

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Speaker 22: the ground at Andrew's FS base upon returning from Maine

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Speaker 22: and Rhode Island General Dynamics Contractors.

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Speaker 21: We're just unbelievable.

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Speaker 23: Check it out spirit The President calls it spirited and

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Speaker 23: and that's what it is.

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Speaker 10: You can feel it throughout the country. You feel it

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Speaker 10: in our military. You see it in the recruiting numbers,

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Speaker 10: you see it in the retention numbers. It's not just

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Speaker 10: who's coming in. If the guys that are in that

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Speaker 10: are staying in at historic rates and at high high rates,

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Speaker 10: then you see it in the workforce. And that's why

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Speaker 10: I'm glad you guys can come along and see this,

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Speaker 10: this Arsenal Freedom Tour. And why our remarks are all public,

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Speaker 10: it's because we're.

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Speaker 23: Saying the same things out in the public that we

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Speaker 23: are behind closed doors.

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Speaker 10: We're all in this together. We got to move fast.

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Speaker 10: We've got to get the capabilities to the warfighters.

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Speaker 8: And when when.

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Speaker 23: Everybody sees that spirit, everybody works a little harder, moves

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Speaker 23: a little faster.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, we draw off that energy from.

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Speaker 24: The unbelievable energy in the room here they're gonna be

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Speaker 24: putting out. They're sixty six percent done with the first

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Speaker 24: Columbia class submarine to replace the entire fleet of the

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Speaker 24: Ohio class submarines.

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Speaker 23: Companies are building new plants, not just you know, an

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Speaker 23: additional shift, but it's a new plant next to a

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Speaker 23: new plant, next to a new plant, and companies are making.

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Speaker 10: Their own investments to do it.

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Speaker 23: That's how you ramp up our magazine depth, as we

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Speaker 23: call it, the amount of munitions that.

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Speaker 1: We actually have.

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Speaker 23: So I think we're just on the front end because

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Speaker 23: the President has brought investment back, American manufacturing back, and

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Speaker 23: we're bringing the defense industrial base pass.

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Speaker 2: All right, David, It's amazing to me to go in.

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Speaker 2: He wants to bring this defense contracting back to the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 1: Is most of it offshore?

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Speaker 21: Most of it isn't offshore. We do get a lot

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Speaker 21: of parts from abroad, especially you know, even in our

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Speaker 21: car industry here, right, But their focus is laser focus

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Speaker 21: on delivering defense system from US contractors at speed and scale.

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Speaker 21: And this is part of Trump's Defense Acquisition Executive Order

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Speaker 21: that was codified in the NDAA.

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Speaker 1: It's really important stuff.

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Speaker 21: And Pete hag Seth said in the gaggle that he's

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Speaker 21: not afraid to fire defense contractors if they don't deliver

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Speaker 21: this stuff on time, because you know, the design and

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Speaker 21: the bureaucracy in the Pentagon over the years has just

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Speaker 21: been massive. And he also promised to cut through the

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Speaker 21: red tape in the Pentagon. Here it's pretty spectacular. And

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Speaker 21: he also talked about, you know, the lobbyists get comfortable

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Speaker 21: and they get these long contracts and they're not delivering

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Speaker 21: stuff on time.

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Speaker 1: But they have this.

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Speaker 21: New bond program, the bond program, it'll encourage private partners

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Speaker 21: from private industry to produce stuff for the defense industry.

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Speaker 21: And we were at the bath Iron Works and that

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Speaker 21: place is amazing they're making the third generation Arley Burke

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Speaker 21: AGIS class guided missile cruisers. They just launched the Peak,

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Speaker 21: the USS Barnum and now they're gonna launch next year

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Speaker 21: the Lewis Wilson. Pretty incredible. And these new submarines, the

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Speaker 21: Columbia Class, all those guys cheering, you want them on

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Speaker 21: your site. They are salted the earth. These new submarines

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Speaker 21: are twenty tons, even larger than the Ohio class. They're

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Speaker 21: going to replace thirty on nuclear reactors. I was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 21: And then we visited Onderill Underwater Solutions, these autonomous underwater

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Speaker 21: vehicles that can deliver torpedoes and do surveillance across the

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Speaker 21: globe underseas the largest facility in the world for autonomous vehicles.

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Speaker 21: What heg Seth is doing is really incredible. And I

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Speaker 21: just want to add the purpose of this Arsenal of

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Speaker 21: Freedom tour is to convey to the workers at these plants,

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Speaker 21: like you saw that incredible response. It was the same

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Speaker 21: with the bath Ironworks. They had a strike in twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty that had COVID. They weren't staffing. Now they're building,

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Speaker 21: they're getting stuff out, and this is a message to them.

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Speaker 21: The Arsenal Freedom Tour nationwide. He's been to California, to Texas,

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Speaker 21: to Merritt Island. It's been all over to give these

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Speaker 21: guys motivation.

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Speaker 1: David, let me show you some video.

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Speaker 2: This is protesters outside of the Bath Iron Works here,

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Speaker 2: so I'll play a sound bye from one of them.

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Speaker 1: World cut to guys, I'm.

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Speaker 9: Here today to talk and yell and shout and scream

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Speaker 9: that we do not have a democracy right now.

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Speaker 7: I am terrified about the direction this country is going in.

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Speaker 7: The administration's breaking all the laws, Haig said.

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Speaker 2: I don't even need to really hear any more of them,

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Speaker 2: so they don't even know what they're protesting.

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Speaker 1: They're just against the administration.

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Speaker 21: Is that aunt David, Well, Shame on them because I

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Speaker 21: saw them in Rhode Island too, and the economy's thirty

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Speaker 21: three thousand employees they're going to have soon general dynamics

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Speaker 21: in Rhode Island and Connecticut. Bath is only a town

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Speaker 21: of nine thousand people. People commute forty minutes each way

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Speaker 21: to go there every day on that sixty five acre site.

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Speaker 21: They presue through some of a five thousand vessels. In

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Speaker 21: the last two hundred years out of Bath. General Dynamics

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Speaker 21: is providing jobs and livelihoods for those people defending America

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Speaker 21: facing real time emerging threats that are here. They are

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Speaker 21: here and now, and we have to get this stuff

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Speaker 21: out quick, on time and at quality so and at scale.

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Speaker 2: So it's our defense that absolutely, absolutely depends on it.

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Speaker 2: David Zirez, always great work. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 2: and sharing.

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Speaker 1: It with us.

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Speaker 21: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, get the waste front of his You know, defense

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Speaker 2: industry is right with waste, fraud and abuse. Pete Haigseth

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Speaker 2: is going to get that under control. We bring all

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Speaker 2: this manufacturing back here.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: We're on a We're on a road to success, baby,

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Speaker 2: That's that's a fact. Hey, I have some great news

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Speaker 2: for you. By the way, remember this Mike Tyson commercial.

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Speaker 2: I told you about it. I was so mad about

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Speaker 2: I thought that the federal government paid for it.

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Speaker 9: People, something has to be done by process fool in

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Speaker 9: this country.

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Speaker 1: Well guess what.

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Speaker 2: Health and Human Services reached out to me and said, grant,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, we had donors pay for that commercial.

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Speaker 1: So bravo on that.

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Speaker 2: No taxpayer money going to fund a very good message,

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Speaker 2: by the way, but it was all donor.

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Speaker 1: Money, So we're happy about that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Gold is again above five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: What this means next?

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Speaker 2: All right, folks, real quick, a little breaking news on

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Speaker 2: the Nancy Nancy Guthrie case. Fox News is reporting that

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Speaker 2: there has been bitcoin activity in the cryptocurrency account for

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Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie. This, as I said, FBI agents are swarming

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Speaker 2: into the neighborhood of Annie Guthrie and SWAT teams rolling

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Speaker 2: into the neighborhood of Annie Guthrie. That, of course, is

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Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie's sister, the daughter of Nancy Guthrie. We'll see

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Speaker 2: how all of this play is out. But I wanted

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Speaker 2: to bring you that latest news. Now to gold. You know,

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Speaker 2: I find it interesting because I was preparing for this

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Speaker 2: segment and I put gold price in Google, and you

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Speaker 2: know how it gives you, gives you searches. The number

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Speaker 2: one search is why is gold falling now? And I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the chart and I'm looking and saying, gold

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Speaker 2: isn't falling now, But because it had one dip, goes

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Speaker 2: up to fifty three hundred, comes back down to forty

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Speaker 2: six hundred something. It's now up above five thousand dollars again.

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Speaker 2: That's not gold falling. I want to bring in now

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Speaker 2: precious metal specialists for Perch Gold Group. Philip Patrick is

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Speaker 2: with us. Philip, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me grown.

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Speaker 2: Do you find that interesting? That's that's the search term

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Speaker 2: and this isn't the search term. This is Google giving

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Speaker 2: me this. What are people asking? Why is gold falling?

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Speaker 1: Now? It's not huge surprise.

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Speaker 19: People get carried away with the upside, they get carried

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Speaker 19: away with the downside. But I want to remind people,

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Speaker 19: you know, gold is up almost seventy percent last year.

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Speaker 19: Silver ended the year last year at one hundred and

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Speaker 19: fifty percent up. The beginning of this year we saw

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Speaker 19: them surging again. Gold at one point up almost twenty percent.

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Speaker 19: Silver was up fifty percent three weeks into the year,

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Speaker 19: and then we saw a retracement back for us at Birch.

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Speaker 1: That's welcome.

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Speaker 19: Anything that goes up in a straight line, you start

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Speaker 19: to get bubble concerns. What we saw came predominantly from

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Speaker 19: the paper market, specifically with silver. A lot of leverage

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Speaker 19: had built up and I think there was profit taking

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Speaker 19: in margin calls. But nothing has changed in terms of

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Speaker 19: the fundamentals. And if you rightly point out, after that retracement,

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Speaker 19: we're moving back.

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Speaker 2: It completely leveled out and then started back up on

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Speaker 2: the move.

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Speaker 1: This is how markets work.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a market for four years

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Speaker 2: go straight up without a little bit of a correction.

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Speaker 19: Correct, Absolutely correct, And like I said, it's welcome. At

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Speaker 19: some point you need a retracement. It creates opportunities, and

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Speaker 19: like I said, it reduces those concerns of bubbles. But

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Speaker 19: the fundamentals driving gold and silver are stronger today than

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Speaker 19: they were twelve months ago, and I believe they're going

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Speaker 19: to be stronger in twelve months from now.

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Speaker 1: So as many people who watch the show, no I

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Speaker 1: fool around.

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Speaker 2: I DIY trade a little bit on certain things, and

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Speaker 2: I mostly use technical analysis. I use I look at

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Speaker 2: charts and where they're support and resistn't all these things.

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Speaker 2: But for gold long term, the fundamentals are really what's important.

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Speaker 2: The chart looks beautiful for gold long term too, but

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Speaker 2: the fundamentals are all there as to why gold would

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Speaker 2: continue to rise, right, Philip.

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Speaker 19: It's absolutely correct. We're seeing a global financial system that

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Speaker 19: is changing right in front of our eyes, and gold

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Speaker 19: becomes a very important part of that. As a monetary metal.

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Speaker 19: But what's important is the buyers right now are central

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Speaker 19: banks and they are price insensitive. Central banks aren't moving

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Speaker 19: in a direction it seems to be away from the

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Speaker 19: US dollar in this climate, and gold becomes very very

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Speaker 19: important for them. Poland just bought one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 19: tons of gold, and in that purchase, in sort of

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00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 19: the script, they came out and said, listen, price is

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Speaker 19: not important to us. This is about long term protection

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Speaker 19: and stability. So the buyers for both gold and silver,

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Speaker 19: they're central governments at the moment, they don't care. Silver's

805
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 19: going to be very important to secure the future of defense.

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Speaker 19: We need it from everything from home electronics to ballistic missiles.

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Speaker 19: That demand isn't going any you know.

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Speaker 2: I believe we're going to see both the stock market

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Speaker 2: end gold go up together. And I believe part of

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Speaker 2: that is because of a sea of liquidity that is

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Speaker 2: out there right now. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: cash out there, and cash is losing value. People are

813
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Speaker 2: going to have to put that someplace, and I think

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00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: they will certainly get gold. They may put in the

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Speaker 2: stock market too, But both of these assets look to

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Speaker 2: me like they'd be prepped.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I agree vehemently. There is a ton of liquidity

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Speaker 19: looking for a home, and as you rightly point out,

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00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 19: the traditional sort of safe haven sit in cash and

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Speaker 19: ride it out doesn't work in a climate where inflation's smoldering,

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Speaker 19: where the dollar is losing value. So people in the action,

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Speaker 19: and I think precious metals will pick up a lot

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Speaker 19: of the safe haven them on. I think markets could move.

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Speaker 19: I think bitcoin could see a pickup. Obviously we've seen

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Speaker 19: a big hit. So broadly speaking, there's liquidity looking for

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Speaker 19: a home, but I think gold and silver will pick

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Speaker 19: up a lot of that because I think people are

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Speaker 19: trying to balance growth with preservation and they do that uniquely.

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Speaker 2: And this is not just from Philip Patrick with Birch Gold,

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Speaker 2: but I've talked to a lot of investment advisors who

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Speaker 2: have a lot of money in stocks. They said, when

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Speaker 2: you park cash, that's exactly what you said. But right

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Speaker 2: now they are telling all of their clients, if they're

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Speaker 2: going to park money that they don't want in the

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Speaker 2: stock market, park it in gold.

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Speaker 1: That is the best place to park your money right now.

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Speaker 2: And watch it grow at a rate that's going higher

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Speaker 2: than even the stock market is. So this is why

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Speaker 2: I urge people to call you, Philip. Let me let

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Speaker 2: me get people the info of how they can get

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Speaker 2: in touch with you. And as always, thank you for

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Speaker 2: coming on. Here's what you do and you know it already.

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Speaker 2: Text America to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight.

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Speaker 2: Get your free info kit on gold again. Text America

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Speaker 2: to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight and

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Speaker 2: do what so many Real America's Voice Stinchfield Army members

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Speaker 2: have done. And use Birch Gold to help you protect

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Speaker 2: your portfolio.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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