WEBVTT - Best Bets for NFL Week 9: Top Picks and Predictions (Ep. 574) 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome in everybody to Betting Bros. This time to play 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.760 short bets and it's meet Joey Paid Joe Piezabia and 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.880 this is VP NFL. It's time to look ahead to 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.080 the best bets for week nine as we look to 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.520 our favorite games and moments to see wo gonna help 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.319 you make some money. Don't forget to download the Betting 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.440 Bros App wherever you get your apps and start betting smarter, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.880 not harder. Of course, my co host or here as 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.079 always Terrell Ferman Junior and the Undertaker himself Andrew Erickson. Gentlemen, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.960 we got some fun games to talk about today, and 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.240 both of you want to start with the Denver Bronco. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.480 So Terrell Furman, without further ado, let's kick things off 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.360 with bo Nix, who is clearly, you know, the greatest 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.519 quarterback in the history of the league, right I think 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:40.400 that's where he's ranking. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.040 Yeah, I mean, I mean he may not be the 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.280 best passer, but he's a great cover of the spread, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.080 and he has a great coach that is putting him 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.680 up in great situations on the road to cover the spread. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.920 And I mean there were some there were some people 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.880 out there that said, you couldn't lay points with bow Nicks, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.560 and you couldn't lay double digits with Boone Nicks. And 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.880 Boe Nicks absolutely handle business against Carolina Panthers, and I 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.240 mean he's just doing what is expected to be done, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.800 and that's it. Like everybody forgets it's okay to have 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.399 a game manager. It's okay to have a quarterback that's 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.080 not the best quarterback in the game. As long as 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.720 he's not an idiot, they can play really, really good 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.600 at the position. And bo Nicks has shown that he's 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.360 just not an idiot. He just might not have the 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.000 talent to make all the throws. The one in particular 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.080 on Thursday night where he threw lofted in between two 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.960 in between two players shows that, hey, he may not 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.280 be the best passer. But it doesn't matter because this 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.320 Ravens defense is horrible. I mean they're horrible. They went 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.720 and got Deoncea Johnson and Ravens fans feel no better 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.399 because the defense is still really really bad. So if 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.120 you give bo Knicks opportunities to throw the ball and 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.280 keep giving him different chances after chance after chance, which 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.280 this Ravens team has done. Not being able to cover 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.040 the spread large at least large numbers like this over 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.040 the course of the year. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm all over 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.560 this Deno Broncos team. I've been taking this le Broncos 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.760 scene catching a big number on the road all season. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.480 I think this is another spot where Sean Payton coaches 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.560 this team up. The defense plays lights out, and Bonix 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.280 just does enough to keep them in the game, and 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.399 now the Ravens have to play from behind and try 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.600 to secure a win. The Ravens don't care about covering 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.239 the spread. They're just trying to win games. So yeah, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.519 I love the Broncos today. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.560 Yeah, this is something Andrew and I talked about earlier 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.680 in the week too. I think that Baltimore is going 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.560 to play angry because of the fact that they just 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.680 let that game slip through their fingers literally several times 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.320 this past week in Cleveland, so they will bounce back. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.000 They should get that victory here, but it is a 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.799 very large number. And Andrew, this is something we talked about 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.320 earlier on the week. If you missed that show, go 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:41.519 look at the look Ahead. We kind of did a 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.200 breakdown of all the games, but obviously this one in particular. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.519 So I'm where Trella is on this one too. I 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.560 think that's a lot of points. You're getting ten in 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.280 some markets already, So where are you at here? Still, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.600 as we've gone a couple of days, you've seen the nine. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.360 I even seen some ten now available. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.960 Yeah, it's too many points. We learned this last week. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.720 Just take the take the teams that are getting so 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:01.919 many points with the. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.679 Bronco against the Tennessee type. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.520 Detroit are the ATS champions of the world under Danie Campbell, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.560 so you always take them against the spread no matter what. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.280 In doubt, just take the Lions, doesn't matter. But for 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.480 the Broncos, I want to take them, especially on the road. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.000 Furman laid out the case Sean Payton and bo Nicks 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.959 this year four to no record against the spread on 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.280 the road, three and one straight up, and that's despite 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.480 being a six point underdog in three of those four contests. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.440 So the Broncos have been basically touchdown underdogs most of 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.080 the time on the road, and they not only covered 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.240 those games, they've won those games. So no, I don't 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.840 think that this is a spot, especially with the Ravens 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.600 coming off a loss that an upset special Joe, this 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.960 would not be my pick for you, but to cover 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.240 nine points for a team that hasn't lost a game. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.240 They haven't played a game where they've lost by more 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.320 than a touchdown. Every game that they've played has at 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.120 least seven points that they have lost this season. The 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.560 Denver Broncos. So what do we saw last week against 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.080 the Carolina Panthers. They were putting up points, The game 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.120 was out of out of they already won the game, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.680 and they're still trying to score points. So you think 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.640 if they get down twenty one that they're just gonna 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.160 give up. No, they're gonna do whatever takes to cover 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.520 this spread. So that's what I like, putting my money 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.400 on teams that aren't gonna quit. And that's what you've 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.280 seen from the Denver Broncos with Bonnicks. And give credit 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.679 to the defense. The Bronces of a really good defense. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.400 Can they give some trouble to Lamar in this offense? 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.840 I think so? So again, I think there's just so 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.880 many points. The Broncos have done this on the road 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.200 repeatedly this season. So give me bon Nix. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.560 On BP right now. I see Fandal's got at nine 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.520 and a half. You can get it there ESPN Bet 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.719 nine and a half so there are some bigger numbers 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.560 even if you're really into this and really want to 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.400 cover yourself. Let's get to the New Orleans Saints. You're 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:43.160 hopefully getting a return of Derek Carr this week, fingers crossed. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.039 That's good news for Crystal Lave. It's good news Tralviln Camara. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.640 It's good news for the Saints. The only better news 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.400 is they're getting the Carolina Panthers. That's the perfect opponent 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.880 that you want that first game back for some of 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.960 these guys. So let's talk about this one, Terrell. The 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.280 Saints number is minus seven and a half. Are you in? 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.679 Yeah? I'm one hundred percent and on the New Orleans 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.080 Saints because this Carolina team is horrible, Like it's horrible, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.000 and they're throwing Pryce Young out there and they're not 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.960 even trying to set him up to succeed. They trade 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.159 away Deontay Johnson, which shows that they're just completely on 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.960 the tank train. They're not even trying, like you're throwing 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.280 a Xavier legged out there, Jonathan Mingo, like they have 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.760 no options for Bryce Young to be able to succeed 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.159 at playing well. And then guess what, Derek Carr, the 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.520 man the myth, the legend is back and he oh man, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.320 how many times have we seen the Derek Carr return 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.839 from injury game? I mean, this is They're absolutely this 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.160 is the best spot. This is one hundred percent the 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.040 best spot to fade the Panthers again. And I just 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.160 don't understand how the Saints are not a public team. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.320 Why are there people betting Panthers plus seven and a 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.839 half year, why are there people still betting Panthers? The 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.760 Panthers completely ruined the close your Eyes Special. There's no 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.120 reason to bet the Panthers this season. If you can't 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.800 bet them as a closed your Eyes special, you can't 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.919 bet them at all. Oh man, I'm fading. This is shorts. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.360 This is way too short. Give me Derek Carr all 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.240 the way lay seven and a half ericson. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.480 It's not you right betting the Panthers. We've established I. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:08.640 Have practice restraint. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.120 The last couple of weeks, I've stopped betting on the 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.080 Panthers and I've I've I've felt much happier. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.040 Yeah, I've already logged my bets for Alvin Kamara over 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.360 on Betting Pros. You can call me betting pros dot com. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.760 Last Joe or Now you can actually just search names Tooterrell, Furman, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.440 Joe Piezapia, Andrew Erickson. You can find just search Torow. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.599 You don't have to go all the way to you. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:37.080 Just like to share and Madonna's there's only one Crow mclovin. Right, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.280 let's get to your take on this game. Since you're 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.400 not on the Carolina side, thank goodness, how are you 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.160 approaching Carolina and New Orleans? Andra? 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.480 I just like the under I just I mean Panthers 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.880 games typically go under because they can't score points on offense. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.479 You look at their last twelve home games, eight of 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.919 them have gone under the projected total. So for me, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.040 I'm expecting some ross coming off of Derek Carr miss time. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.200 This offense hasn't been the same since it was during 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.640 weeks one and two. I know one of those games 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.880 is against the Carolina Panthers, but part of the reason 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.920 why the Saints were firing was brashichi heat. That was 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.440 Derek Carr's big play specialists. They were driving the ball 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.800 down the field, splash plays. It was awesome. And ever 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.400 since then he's gone, they haven't been doing nearly as 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.600 much play action, not as much motion, just has the 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.000 offense hasn't been as creative, So I think that the 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.800 Saints can kind of approach its game as we'll just 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.920 let the Panthers beat themselves, turn the ball over, we'll 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.000 run the ball with Kamara and Taysom Hill and Jimal Williams, 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.240 and we'll want this game. I just don't think they 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:35.400 need to do a lot. They're also playing on the 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.800 road too, so again, I just don't think that this 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.680 is a Saints Oh We're gonna post thirty five points 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.080 like they did in Week one, So for me, it's 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.240 just an easy underplay. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.440 I would also like to throw out there for the 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.200 people because I'm a man of the people and I 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.240 would love to give people bets and extra bets when 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.360 I can. I just want everybody to know I bet 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.040 Taysom Hill two touchdowns last week, which means that it's 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.120 one hundred percent points to hit this week. 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So 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.840 download the VP app today and look for the NFL contest, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.480 and of course join our discord too now. Trell Furman 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.280 or should I just say trell pardon me, sir? You 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.600 were four and one last week. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.240 So I was waiting for when you were gonna say it. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.599 I got, I got, you know. I look, if I 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.680 praise you too much at the top, then the whole 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.640 show okay, all right, all right? So I wanted to 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.800 wait a little bit for in one last week. These 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.960 first two sound really good to me. Next one here, Now, look, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.560 this is interesting because I, of course am overjoyed with 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.600 the Patriots' performance last week. I'm you know, it's it's 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.079 a one off. I texted Andrew right when the game ended, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.960 my heart is full of joy. Those my exact words. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:36.959 To him, and confirmed. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.160 He confirmed my heart is full of joy. I don't 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.200 know if there were emojis, I can't remember, but this 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.960 week the Patriots, you've got some feelings on You might 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.240 have to sell me on this one a little bit. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:47.880 I want to hear about. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.200 Oh yeah, well, if you want a trend, I have 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.559 a trend, and this is this is Dad Campbell absolutely 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.880 destroying teams every week he plays them and they don't 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.520 have a roster to play the next week because teams 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.240 that are playing against the Lions the next week that 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:08.880 they play are horrible. I mean it is horrible looking. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.959 Since twenty twenty two, teams after playing the Lions are 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.600 fourteen twenty four and one against the spread. That is 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:20.240 thirty six point eight percent twenty point six percent ROI 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.959 taking the other team that is playing the Lions. And 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.320 maybe that's because Dan Campbell came out in at press 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.360 conference and he said, we're gonna bite those kneecaps and 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.360 we're gonna destroy teams, and they're actually doing it. They 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.640 may not get the win all the time, but you 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.880 you get the psychological win of knowing that you beat 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.160 up a team the week before and they just can't 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.480 play well after you. In fact, this season, teams are 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.000 oho and six straight up oh and six against the 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.920 spread after playing the Lions. And think about all the teams. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.840 You can go back, and you can look at my 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.840 New York Giants playing against the Seattle Seahawks, where nobody 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.240 had us against the Seattle Seahawks and they went outright 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.800 as six point dogs on the road, like this is 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.160 something really legit. And then why are we laying three 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.440 and a half with the Titans. Just think about that 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.440 for a second. After everything everybody gave me about the Titans. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.160 Despite them having a great defense, you cannot lay points 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.240 with this team. They have horrible special teams. They give 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:14.960 up a block plant or a block kick for a 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.040 touchdown every single game. I mean, the best bet for 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.800 this game really should be the New England special teams, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.640 because if there's ever a special teams that's going to 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.160 take advantage of bad special teams, it's gonna be a 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.320 New England Patriots special team. So special team defense touchdown 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.880 for them all the way. I think that Jacoby set 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.560 Jacoby Brissett is going to do enough in this game. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.480 And I just don't trust Mason Rudolph in this Titans 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.800 offense to put up any kind of points on a really, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.800 really good Patriots defense that I was high on all season. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.160 So I think Calvin Ridley is going to have an 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.240 off day playing against Christian Gonzalez on the outside. Yeah, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.880 I am one hundred percent. I think that the Patriots 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.160 are alive here to win this game out right, all right? 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.160 Three and a half, that's the number you're getting. Now? 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.080 You like that hooked too? 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.600 Are you convinced? 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.560 I think so? Yeah, I am. I've again It's like 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.319 it's there's still a two and sixteen and they're two 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.640 and sixteen going on the road, and I just don't 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.199 know if I'm like, I'm not like excited about it. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.240 I think Arrell's right, and I think the Lions hangover 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.400 proposition they've thrown out there is pretty convincing. I think 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.000 the under is the way I would approach this game 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.120 at thirty eight and a half. Personally, I'm a little 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.600 I think I'm a little more confident in that than 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.600 I am with the Patriots. I feel like this is 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.600 one of those four outcome kind of games and that 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.439 typically doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. But are 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.199 you convinced since we're talking about. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.199 I just I just need Drake May to beat the quarterback. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.920 I just. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.559 Number one the game. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.080 I was gonna say, here's a question, Okay, Drake May 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.240 was the quarterback, would this number be Patriots one hundred percent? Yeah, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.599 one hundred percent. If Drake May was the quarterback of 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:50.559 this week, what would that number be? 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.679 The Titans would still be favorite. So I would just 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.160 take the Patriots on the money line, even if. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.440 I believe it could be well, you could be two 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:55.800 and a half. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.800 Trell closer one. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.520 I mean, but what I mean, I feel more confident 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.239 about just betting on the Patriots. 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.480 And yes, but he's also significantly better. That's in terms 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.079 of moving the football right. But again, I don't think 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.600 that I like Jacob. I've been a Jacoby Brissette guy 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:12.160 for a long time. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.600 But Jacoby Brissette has more wins this season than Drake May. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.760 I just want to throw that out there. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:18.640 Well, he's playing Mark Herbs. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.040 And technically last week Drake May started, So Drake May 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.679 technic gout to win because he started, So technically. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.439 You're head, no, no, no, Jacoby got the save. Jacoby 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.840 got the save the hybrid. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.960 I also, I also don't think Patrio Stevens is good, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.360 so I disagree with Furman there. I think Patri Stefens 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.920 is horrible. They've they've given up thre hundred yards and 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.040 almost every single game this year. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:44.800 So that's my car. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.520 Right. Let's let's get to your third pick, Andrew Cincinnati 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:48.360 Las Vegas. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:48.840 Uh. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.640 Certainly a game where you know the defense might be 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.120 hard to come by a certain times. So, uh, do 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.360 you think this game goes under or over the forty 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.000 six and a half. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.720 I'm leaning towards under forty six and a half with 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.959 this total, I have concerns about the Bengals with some 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.040 of the injuries they're dealing with. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:03.360 No T. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.040 Higgins and this offense just doesn't seem to operate at 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.319 the same level when he doesn't play. It's weird because 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.400 you think that, okay, Chase is going to just absolutely 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.480 eat and destroy whenever te Higgins miss his games. But 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.120 this year a lot of chases down games have actually 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.199 been when Higgins has not been playing. It's one of 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.440 these rare occurrences where he really gets that massive efficiency 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.520 boost because teams can't take him away as easily he needs. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.280 Hasn't been ruled out yet as well. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.720 Well, I'm just sending he opened the week with DMP so. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.880 But I meant if he gets a limited in today 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.920 on Thursday, yes we're recording this and limited on Friday, 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.960 I would imagine he plays. So I think that's the 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.840 next forty eight hours are very important today. Andrew's point too, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.640 So if you don't think Higgins is going to play, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.960 sure put that in your mix of discussing it. But 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.800 as of right now, that's not official yet. I just 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.880 want to be clear for everybody watching and listening. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.800 Yes, but Higgins also in a contract year. I don't 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.800 think he's going to play if he's not one hundred 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.280 and fifty percent ready to go. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:58.800 Yeah, he's not. He's not pushing it. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.360 And the other thing is Orlando Brown, junior tackle for 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.880 the Bengals, is also banged up, listed as day to day, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:08.800 so tackle issues, wide receiver issues. The Raiders defense isn't great. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.800 I don't expect them to score a ton of points 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.360 playing on the road. Most of their road games last 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.160 five of eight have gone under the projected total. They've 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.680 shown out the last two weeks against some lackluster offenses 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.520 that weren't full strength Rams Chiefs. They kind of kept 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.440 those games kind of close, But I mean, I don't 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.520 think they're be able to do that against the Cincinnai Bengals, 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.960 who have shown, at least when they've played bad quarterbacks, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.160 those games have gone towards the under three and one 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.080 towards the under. In games that I would deem against quote. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.720 Unquote bad you deem where it gets bad quarterbacks? 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.800 Oh, the bad quarterbacks. So Chobe Brissette, bad quarterback, Daniel Jones, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:43.920 bad quarterback. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.480 Ye, no offense, no no, no, no, se Shaun Watson. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.760 Okay, quarterback. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.520 And then the one that went over was Andy Dalton, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.120 So that one went over, but that one went over. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.520 But what you think that Dalton's good? 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.720 I mean that was that was a that was the 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.760 spot that was against the ban I think you should 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.240 count that as I think we should count that one 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.400 as a three, don't. I don't know if we count 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:08.720 the Dogs. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:09.400 Get my point. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.880 Whenever they're not playing against the team that actually has 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.920 someone that can fight back punch for punch, the games 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.760 kind of go towards the under end. The Bengals defense 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.240 has played but better against bad qbs. So that's why 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.000 I like the owner. Again, it's pretty high forty six 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.200 and a half for Raiders on the road. I feel 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.800 like the Bengals just need I mean Bengals need to 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.400 win a home game eventually at some point. So, but 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.720 unless so, I would change my pick, probably towards the 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.000 Bengals against the spread if we get healthier news about 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.400 Higgins and guys like Orlando Brown. But for right now, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.320 those guys are out, I'd like the under. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.920 All right, let's get to the next game here on 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:45.120 our list. Terrell, you've got some thoughts about Minnesota hosting Indianapolis. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.280 Now right now, you're getting Indy at five and a 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.560 half there on the plus side points and Joe Flacco 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.160 now taking over a quarterback. The Vikings, you know, start 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.720 out red hot, start out undefeated, then the bye week, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.360 and then a couple losses. So here we are, So 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.600 the Viking trying to kind of put the pieces back 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.159 together a little bit. Can they do that against the 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.400 Colts here and Joe Flacco? 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.959 Yeah? And I mean I was on the rams if 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.560 you caught my short that I dropped here Thursday Night 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.080 football last week. I was on the rams, and I 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.679 think that it's something about the Vikings offense that just 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.439 doesn't feel right to me. It feels like they're able 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.719 to get big chunk plays, but it's just more of 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.720 the Hey, consistent offense down the field, consistent running the football, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.320 keeping the chains moving, all of that. They just feel 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.000