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Speaker 1: always Terrell Ferman Junior and the Undertaker himself Andrew Erickson. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we got some fun games to talk about today, and
Speaker 1: both of you want to start with the Denver Bronco.
Speaker 1: So Terrell Furman, without further ado, let's kick things off
Speaker 1: with bo Nix, who is clearly, you know, the greatest
Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of the league, right I think
Speaker 1: that's where he's ranking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean he may not be the
Speaker 2: best passer, but he's a great cover of the spread,
Speaker 2: and he has a great coach that is putting him
Speaker 2: up in great situations on the road to cover the spread.
Speaker 2: And I mean there were some there were some people
Speaker 2: out there that said, you couldn't lay points with bow Nicks,
Speaker 2: and you couldn't lay double digits with Boone Nicks. And
Speaker 2: Boe Nicks absolutely handle business against Carolina Panthers, and I
Speaker 2: mean he's just doing what is expected to be done,
Speaker 2: and that's it. Like everybody forgets it's okay to have
Speaker 2: a game manager. It's okay to have a quarterback that's
Speaker 2: not the best quarterback in the game. As long as
Speaker 2: he's not an idiot, they can play really, really good
Speaker 2: at the position. And bo Nicks has shown that he's
Speaker 2: just not an idiot. He just might not have the
Speaker 2: talent to make all the throws. The one in particular
Speaker 2: on Thursday night where he threw lofted in between two
Speaker 2: in between two players shows that, hey, he may not
Speaker 2: be the best passer. But it doesn't matter because this
Speaker 2: Ravens defense is horrible. I mean they're horrible. They went
Speaker 2: and got Deoncea Johnson and Ravens fans feel no better
Speaker 2: because the defense is still really really bad. So if
Speaker 2: you give bo Knicks opportunities to throw the ball and
Speaker 2: keep giving him different chances after chance after chance, which
Speaker 2: this Ravens team has done. Not being able to cover
Speaker 2: the spread large at least large numbers like this over
Speaker 2: the course of the year. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm all over
Speaker 2: this Deno Broncos team. I've been taking this le Broncos
Speaker 2: scene catching a big number on the road all season.
Speaker 2: I think this is another spot where Sean Payton coaches
Speaker 2: this team up. The defense plays lights out, and Bonix
Speaker 2: just does enough to keep them in the game, and
Speaker 2: now the Ravens have to play from behind and try
Speaker 2: to secure a win. The Ravens don't care about covering
Speaker 2: the spread. They're just trying to win games. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I love the Broncos today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something Andrew and I talked about earlier
Speaker 1: in the week too. I think that Baltimore is going
Speaker 1: to play angry because of the fact that they just
Speaker 1: let that game slip through their fingers literally several times
Speaker 1: this past week in Cleveland, so they will bounce back.
Speaker 1: They should get that victory here, but it is a
Speaker 1: very large number. And Andrew, this is something we talked about
Speaker 1: earlier on the week. If you missed that show, go
Speaker 1: look at the look Ahead. We kind of did a
Speaker 1: breakdown of all the games, but obviously this one in particular.
Speaker 1: So I'm where Trella is on this one too. I
Speaker 1: think that's a lot of points. You're getting ten in
Speaker 1: some markets already, So where are you at here? Still,
Speaker 1: as we've gone a couple of days, you've seen the nine.
Speaker 1: I even seen some ten now available.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too many points. We learned this last week.
Speaker 3: Just take the take the teams that are getting so
Speaker 3: many points with the.
Speaker 1: Bronco against the Tennessee type.
Speaker 3: Detroit are the ATS champions of the world under Danie Campbell,
Speaker 3: so you always take them against the spread no matter what.
Speaker 3: In doubt, just take the Lions, doesn't matter. But for
Speaker 3: the Broncos, I want to take them, especially on the road.
Speaker 3: Furman laid out the case Sean Payton and bo Nicks
Speaker 3: this year four to no record against the spread on
Speaker 3: the road, three and one straight up, and that's despite
Speaker 3: being a six point underdog in three of those four contests.
Speaker 3: So the Broncos have been basically touchdown underdogs most of
Speaker 3: the time on the road, and they not only covered
Speaker 3: those games, they've won those games. So no, I don't
Speaker 3: think that this is a spot, especially with the Ravens
Speaker 3: coming off a loss that an upset special Joe, this
Speaker 3: would not be my pick for you, but to cover
Speaker 3: nine points for a team that hasn't lost a game.
Speaker 3: They haven't played a game where they've lost by more
Speaker 3: than a touchdown. Every game that they've played has at
Speaker 3: least seven points that they have lost this season. The
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. So what do we saw last week against
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. They were putting up points, The game
Speaker 3: was out of out of they already won the game,
Speaker 3: and they're still trying to score points. So you think
Speaker 3: if they get down twenty one that they're just gonna
Speaker 3: give up. No, they're gonna do whatever takes to cover
Speaker 3: this spread. So that's what I like, putting my money
Speaker 3: on teams that aren't gonna quit. And that's what you've
Speaker 3: seen from the Denver Broncos with Bonnicks. And give credit
Speaker 3: to the defense. The Bronces of a really good defense.
Speaker 3: Can they give some trouble to Lamar in this offense?
Speaker 3: I think so? So again, I think there's just so
Speaker 3: many points. The Broncos have done this on the road
Speaker 3: repeatedly this season. So give me bon Nix.
Speaker 1: On BP right now. I see Fandal's got at nine
Speaker 1: and a half. You can get it there ESPN Bet
Speaker 1: nine and a half so there are some bigger numbers
Speaker 1: even if you're really into this and really want to
Speaker 1: cover yourself. Let's get to the New Orleans Saints. You're
Speaker 1: hopefully getting a return of Derek Carr this week, fingers crossed.
Speaker 1: That's good news for Crystal Lave. It's good news Tralviln Camara.
Speaker 1: It's good news for the Saints. The only better news
Speaker 1: is they're getting the Carolina Panthers. That's the perfect opponent
Speaker 1: that you want that first game back for some of
Speaker 1: these guys. So let's talk about this one, Terrell. The
Speaker 1: Saints number is minus seven and a half. Are you in?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm one hundred percent and on the New Orleans
Speaker 2: Saints because this Carolina team is horrible, Like it's horrible,
Speaker 2: and they're throwing Pryce Young out there and they're not
Speaker 2: even trying to set him up to succeed. They trade
Speaker 2: away Deontay Johnson, which shows that they're just completely on
Speaker 2: the tank train. They're not even trying, like you're throwing
Speaker 2: a Xavier legged out there, Jonathan Mingo, like they have
Speaker 2: no options for Bryce Young to be able to succeed
Speaker 2: at playing well. And then guess what, Derek Carr, the
Speaker 2: man the myth, the legend is back and he oh man,
Speaker 2: how many times have we seen the Derek Carr return
Speaker 2: from injury game? I mean, this is They're absolutely this
Speaker 2: is the best spot. This is one hundred percent the
Speaker 2: best spot to fade the Panthers again. And I just
Speaker 2: don't understand how the Saints are not a public team.
Speaker 2: Why are there people betting Panthers plus seven and a
Speaker 2: half year, why are there people still betting Panthers? The
Speaker 2: Panthers completely ruined the close your Eyes Special. There's no
Speaker 2: reason to bet the Panthers this season. If you can't
Speaker 2: bet them as a closed your Eyes special, you can't
Speaker 2: bet them at all. Oh man, I'm fading. This is shorts.
Speaker 2: This is way too short. Give me Derek Carr all
Speaker 2: the way lay seven and a half ericson.
Speaker 1: It's not you right betting the Panthers. We've established I.
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Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks, I've stopped betting on the
Speaker 3: Panthers and I've I've I've felt much happier.
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Speaker 1: not on the Carolina side, thank goodness, how are you
Speaker 1: approaching Carolina and New Orleans? Andra?
Speaker 3: I just like the under I just I mean Panthers
Speaker 3: games typically go under because they can't score points on offense.
Speaker 3: You look at their last twelve home games, eight of
Speaker 3: them have gone under the projected total. So for me,
Speaker 3: I'm expecting some ross coming off of Derek Carr miss time.
Speaker 3: This offense hasn't been the same since it was during
Speaker 3: weeks one and two. I know one of those games
Speaker 3: is against the Carolina Panthers, but part of the reason
Speaker 3: why the Saints were firing was brashichi heat. That was
Speaker 3: Derek Carr's big play specialists. They were driving the ball
Speaker 3: down the field, splash plays. It was awesome. And ever
Speaker 3: since then he's gone, they haven't been doing nearly as
Speaker 3: much play action, not as much motion, just has the
Speaker 3: offense hasn't been as creative, So I think that the
Speaker 3: Saints can kind of approach its game as we'll just
Speaker 3: let the Panthers beat themselves, turn the ball over, we'll
Speaker 3: run the ball with Kamara and Taysom Hill and Jimal Williams,
Speaker 3: and we'll want this game. I just don't think they
Speaker 3: need to do a lot. They're also playing on the
Speaker 3: road too, so again, I just don't think that this
Speaker 3: is a Saints Oh We're gonna post thirty five points
Speaker 3: like they did in Week one, So for me, it's
Speaker 3: just an easy underplay.
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Speaker 1: or should I just say trell pardon me, sir? You
Speaker 1: were four and one last week.
Speaker 2: So I was waiting for when you were gonna say it.
Speaker 1: I got, I got, you know. I look, if I
Speaker 1: praise you too much at the top, then the whole
Speaker 1: show okay, all right, all right? So I wanted to
Speaker 1: wait a little bit for in one last week. These
Speaker 1: first two sound really good to me. Next one here, Now, look,
Speaker 1: this is interesting because I, of course am overjoyed with
Speaker 1: the Patriots' performance last week. I'm you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a one off. I texted Andrew right when the game ended,
Speaker 1: my heart is full of joy. Those my exact words.
Speaker 2: To him, and confirmed.
Speaker 1: He confirmed my heart is full of joy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there were emojis, I can't remember, but this
Speaker 1: week the Patriots, you've got some feelings on You might
Speaker 1: have to sell me on this one a little bit.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, if you want a trend, I have
Speaker 2: a trend, and this is this is Dad Campbell absolutely
Speaker 2: destroying teams every week he plays them and they don't
Speaker 2: have a roster to play the next week because teams
Speaker 2: that are playing against the Lions the next week that
Speaker 2: they play are horrible. I mean it is horrible looking.
Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty two, teams after playing the Lions are
Speaker 2: fourteen twenty four and one against the spread. That is
Speaker 2: thirty six point eight percent twenty point six percent ROI
Speaker 2: taking the other team that is playing the Lions. And
Speaker 2: maybe that's because Dan Campbell came out in at press
Speaker 2: conference and he said, we're gonna bite those kneecaps and
Speaker 2: we're gonna destroy teams, and they're actually doing it. They
Speaker 2: may not get the win all the time, but you
Speaker 2: you get the psychological win of knowing that you beat
Speaker 2: up a team the week before and they just can't
Speaker 2: play well after you. In fact, this season, teams are
Speaker 2: oho and six straight up oh and six against the
Speaker 2: spread after playing the Lions. And think about all the teams.
Speaker 2: You can go back, and you can look at my
Speaker 2: New York Giants playing against the Seattle Seahawks, where nobody
Speaker 2: had us against the Seattle Seahawks and they went outright
Speaker 2: as six point dogs on the road, like this is
Speaker 2: something really legit. And then why are we laying three
Speaker 2: and a half with the Titans. Just think about that
Speaker 2: for a second. After everything everybody gave me about the Titans.
Speaker 2: Despite them having a great defense, you cannot lay points
Speaker 2: with this team. They have horrible special teams. They give
Speaker 2: up a block plant or a block kick for a
Speaker 2: touchdown every single game. I mean, the best bet for
Speaker 2: this game really should be the New England special teams,
Speaker 2: because if there's ever a special teams that's going to
Speaker 2: take advantage of bad special teams, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: New England Patriots special team. So special team defense touchdown
Speaker 2: for them all the way. I think that Jacoby set
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett is going to do enough in this game.
Speaker 2: And I just don't trust Mason Rudolph in this Titans
Speaker 2: offense to put up any kind of points on a really,
Speaker 2: really good Patriots defense that I was high on all season.
Speaker 2: So I think Calvin Ridley is going to have an
Speaker 2: off day playing against Christian Gonzalez on the outside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am one hundred percent. I think that the Patriots
Speaker 2: are alive here to win this game out right, all right?
Speaker 1: Three and a half, that's the number you're getting. Now?
Speaker 1: You like that hooked too?
Speaker 4: Are you convinced?
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, I am. I've again It's like
Speaker 1: it's there's still a two and sixteen and they're two
Speaker 1: and sixteen going on the road, and I just don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm like, I'm not like excited about it.
Speaker 1: I think Arrell's right, and I think the Lions hangover
Speaker 1: proposition they've thrown out there is pretty convincing. I think
Speaker 1: the under is the way I would approach this game
Speaker 1: at thirty eight and a half. Personally, I'm a little
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little more confident in that than
Speaker 1: I am with the Patriots. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: one of those four outcome kind of games and that
Speaker 1: typically doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. But are
Speaker 1: you convinced since we're talking about.
Speaker 4: I just I just need Drake May to beat the quarterback.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 2: Number one the game.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, here's a question, Okay, Drake May
Speaker 1: was the quarterback, would this number be Patriots one hundred percent? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. If Drake May was the quarterback of
Speaker 1: this week, what would that number be?
Speaker 3: The Titans would still be favorite. So I would just
Speaker 3: take the Patriots on the money line, even if.
Speaker 1: I believe it could be well, you could be two
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 4: Trell closer one.
Speaker 3: I mean, but what I mean, I feel more confident
Speaker 3: about just betting on the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And yes, but he's also significantly better. That's in terms
Speaker 1: of moving the football right. But again, I don't think
Speaker 1: that I like Jacob. I've been a Jacoby Brissette guy
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 2: But Jacoby Brissette has more wins this season than Drake May.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 4: Well, he's playing Mark Herbs.
Speaker 3: And technically last week Drake May started, So Drake May
Speaker 3: technic gout to win because he started, So technically.
Speaker 2: You're head, no, no, no, Jacoby got the save. Jacoby
Speaker 2: got the save the hybrid.
Speaker 3: I also, I also don't think Patrio Stevens is good,
Speaker 3: so I disagree with Furman there. I think Patri Stefens
Speaker 3: is horrible. They've they've given up thre hundred yards and
Speaker 3: almost every single game this year.
Speaker 4: So that's my car.
Speaker 1: Right. Let's let's get to your third pick, Andrew Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Certainly a game where you know the defense might be
Speaker 1: hard to come by a certain times. So, uh, do
Speaker 1: you think this game goes under or over the forty
Speaker 1: six and a half.
Speaker 3: I'm leaning towards under forty six and a half with
Speaker 3: this total, I have concerns about the Bengals with some
Speaker 3: of the injuries they're dealing with.
Speaker 4: No T.
Speaker 3: Higgins and this offense just doesn't seem to operate at
Speaker 3: the same level when he doesn't play. It's weird because
Speaker 3: you think that, okay, Chase is going to just absolutely
Speaker 3: eat and destroy whenever te Higgins miss his games. But
Speaker 3: this year a lot of chases down games have actually
Speaker 3: been when Higgins has not been playing. It's one of
Speaker 3: these rare occurrences where he really gets that massive efficiency
Speaker 3: boost because teams can't take him away as easily he needs.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been ruled out yet as well.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just sending he opened the week with DMP so.
Speaker 1: But I meant if he gets a limited in today
Speaker 1: on Thursday, yes we're recording this and limited on Friday,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he plays. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: next forty eight hours are very important today. Andrew's point too,
Speaker 1: So if you don't think Higgins is going to play,
Speaker 1: sure put that in your mix of discussing it. But
Speaker 1: as of right now, that's not official yet. I just
Speaker 1: want to be clear for everybody watching and listening.
Speaker 3: Yes, but Higgins also in a contract year. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's going to play if he's not one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty percent ready to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not. He's not pushing it.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is Orlando Brown, junior tackle for
Speaker 3: the Bengals, is also banged up, listed as day to day,
Speaker 3: so tackle issues, wide receiver issues. The Raiders defense isn't great.
Speaker 3: I don't expect them to score a ton of points
Speaker 3: playing on the road. Most of their road games last
Speaker 3: five of eight have gone under the projected total. They've
Speaker 3: shown out the last two weeks against some lackluster offenses
Speaker 3: that weren't full strength Rams Chiefs. They kind of kept
Speaker 3: those games kind of close, But I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think they're be able to do that against the Cincinnai Bengals,
Speaker 3: who have shown, at least when they've played bad quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: those games have gone towards the under three and one
Speaker 3: towards the under. In games that I would deem against quote.
Speaker 2: Unquote bad you deem where it gets bad quarterbacks?
Speaker 3: Oh, the bad quarterbacks. So Chobe Brissette, bad quarterback, Daniel Jones,
Speaker 3: bad quarterback.
Speaker 4: Ye, no offense, no no, no, no, se Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Okay, quarterback.
Speaker 3: And then the one that went over was Andy Dalton,
Speaker 3: So that one went over, but that one went over.
Speaker 3: But what you think that Dalton's good?
Speaker 2: I mean that was that was a that was the
Speaker 2: spot that was against the ban I think you should
Speaker 2: count that as I think we should count that one
Speaker 2: as a three, don't. I don't know if we count
Speaker 2: the Dogs.
Speaker 4: Get my point.
Speaker 3: Whenever they're not playing against the team that actually has
Speaker 3: someone that can fight back punch for punch, the games
Speaker 3: kind of go towards the under end. The Bengals defense
Speaker 3: has played but better against bad qbs. So that's why
Speaker 3: I like the owner. Again, it's pretty high forty six
Speaker 3: and a half for Raiders on the road. I feel
Speaker 3: like the Bengals just need I mean Bengals need to
Speaker 3: win a home game eventually at some point. So, but
Speaker 3: unless so, I would change my pick, probably towards the
Speaker 3: Bengals against the spread if we get healthier news about
Speaker 3: Higgins and guys like Orlando Brown. But for right now,
Speaker 3: those guys are out, I'd like the under.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next game here on
Speaker 1: our list. Terrell, you've got some thoughts about Minnesota hosting Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Now right now, you're getting Indy at five and a
Speaker 1: half there on the plus side points and Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: now taking over a quarterback. The Vikings, you know, start
Speaker 1: out red hot, start out undefeated, then the bye week,
Speaker 1: and then a couple losses. So here we are, So
Speaker 1: the Viking trying to kind of put the pieces back
Speaker 1: together a little bit. Can they do that against the
Speaker 1: Colts here and Joe Flacco?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I mean I was on the rams if
Speaker 2: you caught my short that I dropped here Thursday Night
Speaker 2: football last week. I was on the rams, and I
Speaker 2: think that it's something about the Vikings offense that just
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right to me. It feels like they're able
Speaker 2: to get big chunk plays, but it's just more of
Speaker 2: the Hey, consistent offense down the field, consistent running the football,
Speaker 2: keeping the chains moving, all of that. They just feel
Speaker 2: very very uncertain of me. But what's not uncertain to
Speaker 2: me is the fact that the Colts get up for
Speaker 2: playing for Joe Flacco. Like this is like baseball when
Speaker 2: you have a pitcher that you just really really rock
Speaker 2: with you saying, hey, we're gonna play great defense behind you,
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna get up behind you. We're gonna make
Speaker 2: sure you get this. Like they are playing up for
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco at Joe Flacco is now the starter. Like
Speaker 2: all the Anthony Richardson bad juju that was around this
Speaker 2: team is gone, and they've been really, really good when
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is in the lineup. One let's mention Theolt
Speaker 2: have covered all but one game this season. Somehow at
Speaker 2: four and four. They've covered everything but one game this season.
Speaker 2: And if you look at what they've done recently, Okay,
Speaker 2: they lost against Texas, still covered that number. They won
Speaker 2: the game against the Dolphins, they lost, They won the
Speaker 2: game against the Titans, they lost the game against the Jags,
Speaker 2: but guess what they got the cover. Like they've constantly
Speaker 2: been in these games. These have been one score games.
Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, you're probably gonna get a couple
Speaker 2: of mistakes by Joe Flacco here, maybe an interception or so,
Speaker 2: but he's gonna continue to push the ball downfield and
Speaker 2: continue to challenge his Vikings defense and that's enough for
Speaker 2: me for a cover. Are they gonna get the win outright?
Speaker 2: I think they can, Actually, I really think they can.
Speaker 2: Like they're in the dome that we've seen Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: do this last year with the Browns where he just
Speaker 2: gets up for these spots on the road and is
Speaker 2: able to go play really, really good football. I'm back
Speaker 2: in Joe Flacco plus five and a half and sprinkle
Speaker 2: on the money line. I think they're gonna be able
Speaker 2: to run the ball on his Vikings team, and Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco is gonna do what they need to be done.
Speaker 1: Deebro and I had a big argument on the FP
Speaker 1: live stream when this news happened about the change of quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I'm completely on the Joe Flacco decision because you
Speaker 1: are right now a five hundred team looking around at
Speaker 1: the rest of this conference saying, why can't we get
Speaker 1: in the playoffs again? Of course you can. So you know,
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins were supposed to be right
Speaker 1: on the precipice of playoffs. They look toast already. Both
Speaker 1: of those teams are two win teams. Why not give
Speaker 1: yourself the best chance to win for the next six
Speaker 1: weeks or eight weeks, whatever you gotten. And if the
Speaker 1: wheels fall off, okay, you want to go back to Richardson,
Speaker 1: go back to Richardson, but you are in it right
Speaker 1: now and This is a team and a coach that
Speaker 1: got Gardner Minshew to lead a team into the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year, So why not Joe Flacco? And I think
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is very astute annually just finding the spot
Speaker 1: is like, who's a really bad quarterback that eventually I'm
Speaker 1: going to get a shot sooner than later. Here you go,
Speaker 1: how about the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: here you go? How about the Colts? Where does he
Speaker 1: go next year? Trell Furman?
Speaker 2: Hopefully my New York Giants, because if he's going to
Speaker 2: play good, it's wait going to the Jets? Well it's
Speaker 2: way better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: Doubt he doesn't want anything to do with that dumpster.
Speaker 1: And he went to the Jets too, and they should
Speaker 1: they could you imagine if they get Flacco because remember
Speaker 1: they were four and four last year at one point,
Speaker 1: had they just started Flacco with Garrett Wilson's like, they
Speaker 1: would have.
Speaker 2: Been okayoffs least teams to the playoffs. Like he leaves
Speaker 2: teams to the playoffs. This is I'm all over the
Speaker 2: cults here, like I think this is a great spot
Speaker 2: to back Flacco. And again we've seen him do this before.
Speaker 2: This is now two years of date of we've seen
Speaker 2: him being able to go up on the road and
Speaker 2: play up in these spots so and at least cover
Speaker 2: the spread. So he hasn't lost a game by more
Speaker 2: than five points all seasons.
Speaker 1: Andrew Elite Joe Flacco. That's right, Andrew, You and I
Speaker 1: are feeling the same about this next game, about the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns here, So let's talk about this. I want
Speaker 1: to get your breakdown here because Cleveland another team that
Speaker 1: has a new lease on life, and they are at home,
Speaker 1: and they are underdogs, and I think you and I
Speaker 1: are in the same spot here. The Chargers are coming
Speaker 1: into town the four and three. I know Cleveland's two
Speaker 1: and six, but it's a different team without Watson playing quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think that two and six represents what this
Speaker 3: team is in any capacity, especially when they play at home.
Speaker 3: They've covered seven or last ten home games, nine and
Speaker 3: four on the money line at home. All of the
Speaker 3: trends are pointing towards the Browns here, showing up against
Speaker 3: even a team that has a winning record. They've won
Speaker 3: last four home games against teams that held a winning record.
Speaker 3: They cover the spread six of the last seven home
Speaker 3: games against teams that held a winning record. Why are
Speaker 3: we afraid of the big bad Los Angeles Chargers. That's
Speaker 3: who we're afraid of. They're going to take it to
Speaker 3: the Browns as road favorites, a dome team playing against
Speaker 3: a strong defense. I don't understand. I think the brown
Speaker 3: should be favorite here. They're playing at home, So I
Speaker 3: like Browns plus two and a half Browns on the
Speaker 3: money line. Look, I think you hit the nail on
Speaker 3: the head Joe talking about this team has new life
Speaker 3: with Jamis Winston injected into this offense. All they do
Speaker 3: is cover the spread at home as underdogs. They're four
Speaker 3: and two straight up. I just this was the line
Speaker 3: to meet talked about on the Early look Ahead show
Speaker 3: that jumped out to me the most. Is the first
Speaker 3: thing I bet heading into week nine, and after doing
Speaker 3: more research, I just felt better about it. So here
Speaker 3: we are back again on the Best Bets Show. Oh,
Speaker 3: betting on the Cleveland Browns. Look last year wasn't aggressive
Speaker 3: enough after they made after Flacco took over, and it
Speaker 3: was week after week, here we go again, Here we
Speaker 3: go again. You're right, So if you weren't on the
Speaker 3: Browns with us last week. It's okay, there's still time
Speaker 3: to get on the Browns bandwagon and join me.
Speaker 4: We got plenty of seats open. Let's go.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, just to point out too, this
Speaker 1: is a Browns team that has Nick Chubb this year, Yes,
Speaker 1: right now, that team did not.
Speaker 4: So they have their leaders that they want. Indight say they've.
Speaker 1: Got Nick Chubb. And Nick Chubb is starting to look
Speaker 1: pretty good last week. Again, he's the only guy who's
Speaker 1: rushed for fifty yards against the Ravens all year. Is
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, I get it, but he looked pretty
Speaker 1: good in some of those jump cuts we saw, so
Speaker 1: that is a huge win for the Browns getting him back.
Speaker 1: He is the best player on their offense. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get more on the Browns. By the way, spoiler
Speaker 1: to come as we get through the show. Here, Terrell,
Speaker 1: let's get your last pick for the week. And again
Speaker 1: it's something Andrew and I were already on in the
Speaker 1: look Ahead show. And it looks like you are holding
Speaker 1: hands and running through the metal with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't lay this big number with Patrick Mahons,
Speaker 2: Anderiedd and Chiefs. They don't care like they truly do
Speaker 2: not care, like, are you in the game? Sure? Did
Speaker 2: you get the end?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: All right, fine, then that's perfectly fine. This is not
Speaker 2: the team that you want to lay double like over
Speaker 2: a touchdown with, And it's perfectly fine. They play really
Speaker 2: good defense. But if you look on the Tampa Bay side,
Speaker 2: I think that they get up defensively as well. I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna give Patrick Mahomes a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: and they're gonna try to keep him off of his game.
Speaker 2: But ultimately, what it is is the fact that again
Speaker 2: the Chiefs do not care. Like the Chiefs do not care.
Speaker 2: They're gonna play smash mount football. They're not a team
Speaker 2: that's going to try and out there to put thirty
Speaker 2: forty plus points on the board like no, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna do enough. We're gonna control clock. We have Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt's gonna run the ball for us really really effectively,
Speaker 2: and we are gonna control time and possession and just
Speaker 2: wear you down, wear you down defensively where you down
Speaker 2: running the football, and pastch Home is going to make
Speaker 2: the plays that he needs to make to make sure
Speaker 2: that we get to win. Like I am one hundred percent. Actually,
Speaker 2: I really wish that I had put Tampa Bay plus
Speaker 2: eight and a half and Chiefs money line. You might
Speaker 2: as well just take that and get you some plus
Speaker 2: money because the Chiefs are winning this game, but they're
Speaker 2: not covering this right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew, This is what we talked about too, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs inability so far to blow teams out, because that's
Speaker 1: just not how the offense is structured anymore. There's no
Speaker 1: more Tyreek Hill around, you know, the run game. We're
Speaker 1: you know, pivoting to the guys like Kareem Haunt the
Speaker 1: veterans right now. We'll see if Hopkins picks up the
Speaker 1: playbook a little bit more involved potentially this week, but
Speaker 1: again it's a hard sell. And Baker Mayfield loves being
Speaker 1: the underdog, so you know he gets up for these
Speaker 1: games too. That's my big point with this. It's like
Speaker 1: every time you tell Baker Mayfield no, that's when you
Speaker 1: get the best version of Baker Mayfield. That's been our
Speaker 1: mo all week on this game. And do anything else
Speaker 1: you want to add to this.
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield playing in Kins City twice two or o
Speaker 3: against the spread him, so you go, he's played well
Speaker 3: when he's had opportunities to play against Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Again he hasn't won out right, But again
Speaker 3: we don't need the Buccaneers to win. We needed to
Speaker 3: not lose by nine points. And the Chiefs this year
Speaker 3: have been kind of threatening the needle when it comes
Speaker 3: to covering a lot of these spreads. And last week
Speaker 3: it showed up they didn't cover against the Raiders, and
Speaker 3: that was one of my bets, was on the Raiders
Speaker 3: at home plus nine and a half and it was close,
Speaker 3: but the Raiders came through. And I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: start to see kind of regression where the Chiefs were
Speaker 3: covering all these spreads by the narrowest of margins and
Speaker 3: now you're going to start to see, well, now they're
Speaker 3: not going to be covering these spreads because the numbers
Speaker 3: are just too big based on oh, well they're undefeated.
Speaker 3: But I think Furman just being so nonchalant about the
Speaker 3: pick and the Buccaneers, that's exactly how the Chiefs feel
Speaker 3: about covering spreads, like we don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what.
Speaker 4: We just won.
Speaker 2: We did who's seven and zero? We are like this
Speaker 2: is like this is not the spot you bet. Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes you bet Patrick Mahomes as a dog. You don't
Speaker 2: bet him laying over a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Always as a dog, always, always, as always, the just
Speaker 1: run run to the window to bet him as the dog.
Speaker 1: I mean, I made so much money last year in
Speaker 1: the playoffs too, and that it was crazy. And then
Speaker 1: I took a cash out of all my forty to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl shares because they all made money.
Speaker 1: And I doubled down on all of the Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl and the m VP, and
Speaker 1: it was just a glorious the Andrew knows I was
Speaker 1: victory lap. I was so exhausted I passed out from
Speaker 1: the victory lapping. I mean so good.
Speaker 2: It's a very real question. Sure, what is the game
Speaker 2: that they lose?
Speaker 1: You know there will be a hiccup in there. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's take the Bills. Let's play the game the Bills.
Speaker 4: The Bills. Yeah, that's maybe they are they on the
Speaker 4: road or at home.
Speaker 2: On the road. So maybe on the road at the Bills.
Speaker 2: But like Broncos, they're going to get a big number there.
Speaker 1: The Broncos will give them problems. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos will give them.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get a big number and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna end up. I'm probably gonna be here next week
Speaker 2: talking about how we're betting the Broncos again, Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Broncos, they get Panthers.
Speaker 1: Not worried this game is dangerous. I think this game
Speaker 1: is dangerous. I think at Cleveland is going to be dangerous,
Speaker 1: potentially depending on where the Cleveland's at. I don't fear Houston.
Speaker 1: One of these two Denver games would bother me, especially
Speaker 1: you know again, it's the last week of the season,
Speaker 1: so they might not matter at that point. One of
Speaker 1: the second one is at Denver, but the at Buffalo
Speaker 1: game is probably the best one. That's the one I
Speaker 1: would think would be the most likely. But I would
Speaker 1: not be shocked if the Week ten Tenver game crept
Speaker 1: up on them in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I wish I could parlay the Chiefs to lose at
Speaker 2: Buffalo and then also already have them to play them
Speaker 2: again in the playoffs and beat them in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Like that would be amazing if I could just Hey,
Speaker 2: if the Chiefs lose this game at Buffalo, let's just
Speaker 2: go ahead and put all this money and save it
Speaker 2: from when they play them in the playoffs, because they're
Speaker 2: going to lose to them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Find out. Let's get to the upsets special of the week.
Speaker 1: And as I alluded to earlier, I feel really good
Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Browns. Now, those are words I don't
Speaker 1: say very lightly or maybe ever in my entire life,
Speaker 1: but I feel good about them. This week. They're at
Speaker 1: home again, the Chargers are coming into town. Chargers are
Speaker 1: a good football team. But am I afraid of the
Speaker 1: Chargers on the road. No, not necessarily so. I know
Speaker 1: Andrew took the points earlier, but I'm gonna take them
Speaker 1: straight up on the money line plus money plus one
Speaker 1: oh six. Let's go give me those Cleveland Browns a
Speaker 1: whole new look, Nick Chubb, Jameis Winston, good feelings all
Speaker 1: the way around for the dog pounds. So everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: be hooting and hollering over there. And let's take that
Speaker 1: into the same the parlay of the week here for
Speaker 1: Week nine in the NFL three leg parlay for you,
Speaker 1: Let's take the Cleveland Browns on the money line and
Speaker 1: plus one oh six. Let's take the Rams on the
Speaker 1: money line at minus one twenty six. Because now that
Speaker 1: Stafford's back with those weapons, I think they're going to
Speaker 1: crush the Seattle Seahawks hopes and dreams. And then of
Speaker 1: course our favorite thing, the Buccaneers. Give me the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: with the points at minus one ten, you put them together,
Speaker 1: you get six to one, boys and girls. That feels
Speaker 1: like a pretty good weekend. And the thing I love
Speaker 1: about this too, you got the one o'clock game with
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, So if they win, you're already in
Speaker 1: business here and you can watch that Rams game real close.
Speaker 1: And if you want to cash out, maybe you get
Speaker 1: a cash out offer, you take it. You're already doing well.
Speaker 1: But if you want to even wait longer and you
Speaker 1: get the Rams to win, well, guess what you got
Speaker 1: the night game two here with the Buccaneers and the Chief.
Speaker 1: So this is a really fun all day parlay. Just
Speaker 1: watch your money grow and maybe the temptation's there to
Speaker 1: check out. It's up to you. But I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of this one this week, and hopefully you are
Speaker 1: as well. Tell us what you are in on for
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