WEBVTT - Paid Hitmen Stephen Caracappa + Louis Eppolito Were Also NYPD Detectives

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Prosecutor Daniel Winner described the case as quote the bloodiest,

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<v Speaker 2>most violent betrayal of the badge this city has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Two decorated new York City Police detectives Stephen Caracappa and

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<v Speaker 2>Louis Eppolito committed various illegal activities on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 2>Five Families of the American Mafia, spanning from the mid

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties to nineteen ninety. Both Cara Kappa and Epolito

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<v Speaker 2>were indicted on multiple charges related to their mafia associations.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the efforts by the Federal Bureau of Investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>the Drug Enforcement Administration, as well as prosecutors, investigators, and

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<v Speaker 2>staff of the United States Attorney's Office, and a woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Betty Hidel, the men were arrested, convicted, and sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to life in prison. Let's talk about the so called

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<v Speaker 2>mafia cops and the story of Wyatt. Took roughly twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years to put them behind bars. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Maria Tremarki.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Holly Frye. Stephen the Stick Karracappa and Louis

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<v Speaker 1>Louis or lou Eppolito were both sworn in as police

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<v Speaker 1>officers in nineteen sixty nine. Epillito became a detective in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven, and Karracappa followed in nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>And both of them were considered pretty good cops by

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<v Speaker 1>most accounts, until until they sold what should have been

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<v Speaker 1>their incorruptible police badges for a monthly salary from Antony Caeso,

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<v Speaker 1>a Lucchese crime family underboss known as gas Pipe. The

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<v Speaker 1>Lucchese family is an Italian American mafia crime family and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the five families that dominated organized crime activities

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City and other cities across the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The others include the Gambino, Banano, Genovese, and Colombo organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>As a retainer, each cop received four thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month in exchange for passing along intelligence reports and privileged

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<v Speaker 1>information about crime family informants. During their tenure with the

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<v Speaker 1>Lucchese family, they were accomplices to multiple crimes, including several murders,

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<v Speaker 1>two of which they carried out themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Cara Kappa grew up in Brooklyn. He was a high

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<v Speaker 2>school dropout who spent five years working as a laborer

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<v Speaker 2>in New Jersey before he joined the Army and did

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<v Speaker 2>a tour in Vietnam. When he joined the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Police Department, it was as a street patrolman at Bellito's

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<v Speaker 2>family was also from Brooklyn and was known to have

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<v Speaker 2>mafia ties. His father was a Gambino family soldier known

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<v Speaker 2>as Fat the Gangster, his uncle known as Jimmy the clam,

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<v Speaker 2>His grandfather and a cousin were also made men. By

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<v Speaker 2>age ten, Lou was joining his father on his bookmaking rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning he accompanied his dad as he made the rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>collecting regular payments to the Gambino family. And while most

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<v Speaker 2>of us might imagine a bookie collecting mainly on sports bets,

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<v Speaker 2>the mafia collected for anything and everything unspecified services.

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<v Speaker 1>Kiracappa and Epolito were essentially lifelong friends. They spent a

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<v Speaker 1>total of forty four years on the force together, and

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<v Speaker 1>they retired to homes across the street from each other

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas. Epillito retired in nineteen ninety, The same

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<v Speaker 1>year he ironically played a bit part in Martin Scorsese's

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety mafia drama called Goodfellas. You can look for

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<v Speaker 1>him as Fat Albert. In nineteen ninety two, Epilito co

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a memoir of his time with the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Police called Mafia Cop, the story of an honest cop

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<v Speaker 1>whose family was the mob and He appeared on the

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<v Speaker 1>talk show Sally Jesse Raphael in nineteen ninety eight to

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<v Speaker 1>promote his book and to discuss his time as a

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<v Speaker 1>detective as well as his family's ties to organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he denied that he knew any details. Speaking about

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<v Speaker 1>his father, he shared with Raphael quote he hated cops

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<v Speaker 1>with a passion, adding that it was probably a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing his father died before he had joined the police academy.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued interestingly that he saw a lot of similarities

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<v Speaker 1>between police and mobsters, that in addition to both living

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<v Speaker 1>by a strict code, they also both delivered justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Kara Koppa retired in nineteen ninety two after an holds

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<v Speaker 2>your Breath for This one, helping to establish the New

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<v Speaker 2>York City Police Department's unit for mafia murder investigations. When

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<v Speaker 2>he retired, he took a job as assistant chief of

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<v Speaker 2>security at a prison for female offenders in North Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd lived fairly quietly for ten year years in Nevada, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Kara Kappa did. They were out of the business, but

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<v Speaker 1>not all the way. While Epilito lived in Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>authorities learned of phone calls he made to associates of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lucues and Banano crime families. He also met with

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Burton Kaplan and remember that name at

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<v Speaker 1>Billino Sure never forgot it, and we'll talk about who

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<v Speaker 1>Burton was as the story unfolds.

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<v Speaker 2>The men were indicted on March ninth, two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>and arrested in Las Vegas by DEEA and FBI agents

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<v Speaker 2>as they were entering Piero's restaurant just off the Strip.

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<v Speaker 2>The retired cops were charged in a federal racketeering indictment

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<v Speaker 2>and both were returned to Brooklyn to face trial. That

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<v Speaker 2>indictment read, in part that the pair were hired and

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<v Speaker 2>paid by Anthony Kaeso to exact revenge on rival Gambino

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<v Speaker 2>family members. It continued that with and Cara Koppa's help,

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<v Speaker 2>Keso was able to rise to power in the Luquese family.

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<v Speaker 2>Both were also charged with passing on information about ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>police investigations into the mafia, including the names of informants,

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<v Speaker 2>while working as police officers for the New York Police Department,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some cases, people were murdered based on this

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<v Speaker 2>privileged information.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the rundown and this is just a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>names of the murder victims that they were tied to. First,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Nicholas Guido, a twenty six year old recent

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<v Speaker 1>college graduate who was gunned down because of an unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>case of mistaken identity. He just happened to have the

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<v Speaker 1>same name as a rival of Caso's. He died in

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<v Speaker 1>his family's driveway in nineteen eighty six after being fingered

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<v Speaker 1>by Eppulito and Kara Coppa. Staten Island criminal and Gambino

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<v Speaker 1>family associate. Jimmy Hidel was a shooter in a botched

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<v Speaker 1>assassination attempt on Keeso in September of nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Karracappa and Epilito were dispatched to kidnap him. As Keeso

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<v Speaker 1>recalled the story later to investigators, he sent Epildo and

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<v Speaker 1>Kiracappa to track him down. In doing so, they met

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<v Speaker 1>his mother, Betty, at her home. They did take Hidel

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<v Speaker 1>into custody, sort of posing as police officers. They were

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<v Speaker 1>real police officers, but they had no business being involved

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<v Speaker 1>in his case. And then they delivered him not to

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<v Speaker 1>the precinct but to Caeso, who later boasted to federal

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<v Speaker 1>agents that he quote shot him fifteen times after being

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<v Speaker 1>marked by Epulito as an informant. Pascuale Verriale was found

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<v Speaker 1>shot to death on Valentine's Day of nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>His body was discovered near where another victim, Israel Greenwald,

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<v Speaker 1>was murdered. Israel Greenwald was an Israeli Diamond District jeweler

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<v Speaker 1>who was pulled over by Epildo and Kara Coappa on

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<v Speaker 1>February tenth, nineteen eighty six, under the guise of investigating

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<v Speaker 1>a hit and run. They then helped execute him in

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<v Speaker 1>a Brooklyn parking garage on orders from Keso. The men

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<v Speaker 1>thought the jeweler was talking to the Feds and had

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<v Speaker 1>tracked his license plate using a police database. They were wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't. Epilito stood lookout while Karakappa and one of

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<v Speaker 1>Caeso's hitmen killed him. The two detectives murdered Edward Lino,

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<v Speaker 1>a Gambino family captain who was believed to have been

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<v Speaker 1>associated with men who had tried to kill Keso. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictment charged that Keso paid Eppildo and Karracappa sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for the hit the detectives. It would become

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<v Speaker 1>clear as the story unfolded, pulled Lino over as he

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<v Speaker 1>was driving, and then shot him. The men also accepted

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<v Speaker 1>a contract from Keeso to hit Salvatore Sammy the Bull Gravano,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a ranking Gambino family member. The attempt on

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<v Speaker 1>Grava's life was unsuccessful, and Sammy later became a government witness.

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<v Speaker 2>Stated in a news release from the United States Attorney's

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<v Speaker 2>Office about the arrests of the Dirty Cops, quote, these

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<v Speaker 2>corrupt former detectives betrayed their shields, their colleagues, and the

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<v Speaker 2>citizens they were sworn to protect. For years, they were

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<v Speaker 2>on a retainer with the Mob. They were paid handsomely

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<v Speaker 2>for participating directly and indirectly in the murders and attempted

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<v Speaker 2>murders of eleven individuals, and for disclosing highly confidential law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement information to their Mob benefactors. Added PASCUALE de Muro,

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<v Speaker 2>Assistant Director in charge of the FBI in New York, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>Epilido and Cara Koppa were not two good cops who

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<v Speaker 2>went bad. It seems clear they were two bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>who somehow became cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Coffee, a highly regarded one time head of the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Police Department's Organized Crime Tax Force New Epilido

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<v Speaker 1>and karra Coppa before retiring in nineteen eighty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>he told the Philadelphia Inquirer in two thousand and five, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it was well known that they were hooked up with

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<v Speaker 1>the mom Let's put it this way. I couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand dollars suit and they could. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something?

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<v Speaker 2>So? How did we get from New York City career

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<v Speaker 2>detective to hired hitman for the American mafia. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break for word from our sponsors, but

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<v Speaker 2>when we return, we'll talk about how authorities were eventually

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<v Speaker 2>able to put this puzzle together.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about who said what

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<v Speaker 1>and when and why. Investigators may never have cracked the

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<v Speaker 1>case until a woman named Betty Hidel came forward with

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<v Speaker 1>a tip.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did this mafia moonlighting happen and go on

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<v Speaker 2>for so long? Let's start laying out the story. In

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with the Toronto Sun, former New York Police

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<v Speaker 2>detective Tommy Dads stated, quote, Carra Coppa was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of a major case organized crime Investigations unit, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had access he knew all the informants. Him and Eppolito

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<v Speaker 2>hooked up around nineteen seventy nine in the Brooklyn North

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<v Speaker 2>Robbery Squad. How they started this no one knows, but

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<v Speaker 2>Epolito came from a mobbed up family. His cousin, Frankie

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<v Speaker 2>Santoro Junior told the boys, my cousin, the cop can

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. He continued, quote there were whispers around about

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<v Speaker 2>Epolito and Carara Koppa, but I didn't believe it. It just

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<v Speaker 2>seemed too incredible. I thought they were scumbags, low lifes.

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<v Speaker 2>They took an oath as cops, and they betrayed that oath.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the worst I'd never heard of cops being

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<v Speaker 2>compared to killers. They conspired to kill. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting story. It was a team effort to get

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<v Speaker 2>these guys local state and federal authorities, cops and prosecutors,

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<v Speaker 2>and as we mentioned at the top of the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Betty.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a lot of new information coming in when

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<v Speaker 1>Dades gave that interview. More than a decade had passed

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<v Speaker 1>until September of two thousand and three, when Detective DAIDs

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<v Speaker 1>picked up a fresh lead, Betty Hidell. The mother of

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<v Speaker 1>victim and Gambino family associate James Hidell came forward to

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<v Speaker 1>tell him that Epilino and Kara Coappa showed up at

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<v Speaker 1>her Staten Island home one afternoon and asked to see

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<v Speaker 1>her son just before his nineteen eighty six disappearance. She

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was them because she recognized Epolino from his

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<v Speaker 1>appearance on the Sally Jesse Raphael talk show. After she

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<v Speaker 1>saw him on TV, she had bought his book, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was one hundred percent sure that he was one

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<v Speaker 1>of two men who had been at her house looking

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<v Speaker 1>for her son.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Dades brought this new evidence to the Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 2>District Attorney's office, he learned that many documents from internal

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<v Speaker 2>affairs probes on the two former detectives, paperwork that went

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<v Speaker 2>back decades was missing. But what hadn't gone missing was

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<v Speaker 2>a record of a computer search Kara Koppa made to

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<v Speaker 2>locate Nicholas Guido, a search that led Keeso's men to

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<v Speaker 2>kill him in his driveway. Betty's tip, it turned out,

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<v Speaker 2>was just the beginning, kind of like trying to undie

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<v Speaker 2>a large, unwieldly k nott. But Betty's information awakened a

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<v Speaker 2>case that had been going cold over the years, and

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<v Speaker 2>it directly led to the Vegas arrests. Though that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen for a few more years, investigators still had to

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<v Speaker 2>make a solid case.

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<v Speaker 1>After their arrests in Vegas, the former detectives became known

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<v Speaker 1>as the MafA Via Cops. That was a nickname taken

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<v Speaker 1>from the title of Epollino's memoir. In regard to their

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming trial, Kiara Coppa's lawyer, Edward Hayes stated, quote, our

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<v Speaker 1>expected defense would be Steve is a very talented detective

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<v Speaker 1>with no motive and had no opportunity to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things. In fact, the two both had

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<v Speaker 1>careers that had earned them promotions and even headlines for

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<v Speaker 1>their impressive police work. Epollino claimed he was the eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>most decorated cop in the New York Police Department. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a claim that the department stated was untrue.

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<v Speaker 2>But Betty wasn't the only source of good information. When

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<v Speaker 2>former New York garment dealer and career criminal Burton Kaplan

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<v Speaker 2>remember we mentioned him a little earlier, sat down with

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<v Speaker 2>DEA agents in two thousand and four, it was to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them the story about two retired New York Police

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<v Speaker 2>Department detectives who were on the mafia's payroll. Caplan was

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<v Speaker 2>a long time I'm Mafia associate who was at the

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<v Speaker 2>time eight years into a twenty seven year jail sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was looking to knock some time off that punishment,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out his information was so good federal

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<v Speaker 2>agents knocked his sentence down to just nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>Caplan was the link between Luques family underboss Anthony Kso

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<v Speaker 1>and the two detectives. The agents knew the story already though,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years before Caplan's statement. Keso, facing charges related to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six murders that he confessed to, turned informant hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to enter the witness protection program, and he offered a

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<v Speaker 1>very detailed account of the work that he had assigned

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<v Speaker 1>to Epildo and Kara Kappa to federal agents and what

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<v Speaker 1>he paid them in return for that work. Though investigators

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<v Speaker 1>were inclined to believe Keso, he was their sole witness,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't think they could make the case without

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<v Speaker 1>more and especially not after Keso, while incarcerated, plotted to

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<v Speaker 1>kill a federal judge. It was not a surprise that

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<v Speaker 1>a grand jury in New York declined to indict Kara

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<v Speaker 1>Kappa and Epolito.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, investigators needed a solid witness. They needed

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<v Speaker 2>something more than Betty's information, and with Kaplan they now

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<v Speaker 2>had a literal link. Kaplan was the very person who

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<v Speaker 2>carried orders from Keeso two of the detectives, and in

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<v Speaker 2>court he gave devastating testimony as the prosecutor's chief witness.

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<v Speaker 2>During his two days on the stand, he testified that

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<v Speaker 2>Keeso referred to Epulito and Cara Kappa as quote my

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<v Speaker 2>crystal ball between nineteen eighty six and nineteen ninety when

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<v Speaker 2>they were on his payroll. He also stated they had

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<v Speaker 2>received thirty five thousand dollars for the murder of Hidel

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy thousand dollars for Gambino crime captain Eddielino. We've

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<v Speaker 2>also seen that amount reported as sixty five thousand, so

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<v Speaker 2>one or the other in total, though they'd received three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for their work, Kaplan's

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<v Speaker 2>testimony made it clear just how deep cases connections were

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<v Speaker 2>in the New York City Police Department.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break here for a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsors, and when we're back, we'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about what went down at their trial and what Epolito

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia, Let's go to trial.

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<v Speaker 1>The government's case was prosecuted by assistant United States Attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Hennock, Mitraharmusi, and Daniel Winner. Lead counsel for the

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<v Speaker 1>defendants were Bruce Cutler and Edward Hayes. According to FBI

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<v Speaker 1>and court reports, following three weeks of trial and two

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<v Speaker 1>days of deliberations, a federal jury returned to verdict, convicting

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<v Speaker 1>Aldo and Karra Coappa of engaging in racketeering over decades,

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<v Speaker 1>including while employed by the New York Police Department, during

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<v Speaker 1>which time they directly participated in or aided and abedded

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<v Speaker 1>eight murders, two of which they'd carried out themselves, two

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<v Speaker 1>attempted murders, and one murder conspiracy. It was also found

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<v Speaker 1>that the defendants routinely passed confidential law enforcement information to

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<v Speaker 1>high ranking members and associates of the Lucchese crime family

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<v Speaker 1>that disclosed the identities of numerous cooperating witnesses and compromised

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<v Speaker 1>several state and federal investigations. It was also found that

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<v Speaker 1>they engaged in several instances of obstruction of justice, drug distribution,

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<v Speaker 1>and money laundering. John Paluso, Assistant Special Agent for the

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<v Speaker 1>DEA's New York Field office, told the Associated Press quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never dealt with anything this egregious. They are toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>Both men declared they were innocent, with defense team lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>Bettina Shine, who represented at Palito, stating quote, the government

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<v Speaker 2>has absolutely not proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But the judge and jury disagreed with her statement. Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years after the pair began moonlighting for the mob, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mafia cops were done. Betty Hidell, from the witness stand

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<v Speaker 1>said to the men, quote, I wish you stay in

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<v Speaker 1>hell the rest of your life and you die alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor Hennock asked the judge for the maximum sentence, stating quote,

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<v Speaker 1>these two men stand before you, unrepentant and remorseless, and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps by a higher power, unforgiven. We don't have death

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<v Speaker 1>squads as policemen, at least we're not supposed to. The

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<v Speaker 1>jury called the pair the most corrupt cops in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the New York Police Department.

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<v Speaker 2>The defendants were jailed, but sentence was delayed. In quote,

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<v Speaker 2>an unusual legal twist. United States District Judge Jack Weinstein

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<v Speaker 2>stated he would impose the maximum sentence on Epilito and

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<v Speaker 2>Cara Kappa, but he wouldn't formally do so until after

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<v Speaker 2>a June twenty third hearing, where the disgraced officers planned

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<v Speaker 2>to argue that their high profile and high priced lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>Cutler and Hayes and team were incompetent. Said Weinstein of

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<v Speaker 2>the case, quote, this is probably the most heinous series

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<v Speaker 2>of crimes ever tried in this courthouse. He continued, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>two defendants have committed what amounts to treason against the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the City of New York and their fellow

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<v Speaker 2>police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>Through his new attorney, Joseph Bondi, Epolito asked for Keeso

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<v Speaker 1>to appear as a witness at the June twenty third hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense, however, did not put him on the stand.

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<v Speaker 1>The hearing did not convince anyone that their trial lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do their jobs properly or that they discriminated against

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<v Speaker 1>their clients. The judge in that case, District Judge Raymond Deary,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking directly to the men, stated that there was evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest these trials wouldn't be happening, that the killings

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<v Speaker 1>would not have occurred had Epolito been dismissed or disciplined

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<v Speaker 1>after quote an inexplicable failure to discipline him in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, quote after he was caught red handed passing

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<v Speaker 1>confidential police documents.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what that's all about. Epallito had come under

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<v Speaker 2>suspicion decades earlier when authorities raided the New Jersey home

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<v Speaker 2>of Rosario Gambino, a mobster and drug trafficker, and discovered

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<v Speaker 2>there dozens of confidential intelligence reports on organized crime figures

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<v Speaker 2>in the Five Families, papers that had Epolito's fingerprints all

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<v Speaker 2>over them. At the time, he was suspended, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was cleared after an internal investigation claimed it was all

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<v Speaker 2>because he'd been set up by enemies in the department.

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<v Speaker 2>No one, though, could explain how the files made it

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<v Speaker 2>to Gambino's home, but Eppolito was reinstated, given back pay,

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<v Speaker 2>and not long after, even received a promotion. The department's

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<v Speaker 2>Trials Commissioner, Hugh mo told The Daily News at the

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<v Speaker 2>time of the review, quote, there was no evidence before

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<v Speaker 2>me other than that Detective Epulito epitomizes the finest in

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<v Speaker 2>the department and is the unfortunate victim of circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>With their failed appeal, the cops would now be sentenced.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Weinstein handed down the lengthy terms after Prosecutor Mitra

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<v Speaker 1>Harmozi stated the pair's quote heinous offense merited life sentences. Epilito,

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<v Speaker 1>sporting a generous white mustache, sat quietly next to a scowling,

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<v Speaker 1>unshaven Cara Kappa. Sentencing proceedings were held at the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Courthouse in Brooklyn, during which the cops turned killers

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<v Speaker 1>sat quietly at the defense table.

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<v Speaker 2>Both were sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility for parole,

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<v Speaker 2>for their convictions of committing eight murders, to attempted murders, murder, conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 2>obstruction of justice, drug distribution, and money laundering, and for

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<v Speaker 2>disclosing sensitive law enforcement information to mafia bosses. Cara Kappa

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<v Speaker 2>received life imprisonment plus eighty years and was fined more

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<v Speaker 2>than four million dollars. Of his fate, he replied, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I am innocent of all these charges, and you'll never

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<v Speaker 2>take away my will to prove how innocent I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Epolito received life imprisonment plus one hundred years. And was

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<v Speaker 1>fined more than four million dollars. Unlike his partner, Epillito

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<v Speaker 1>had quite a bit to say. He apologized to the

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<v Speaker 1>families of the victims, but denied that he had been

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<v Speaker 1>involved with their deaths. He invited the families to visit

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<v Speaker 1>him in prison. He then stated, quote, the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>can take my life. I'm a man. They can't take

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<v Speaker 1>my soul. They can't take my pride, they can't take

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<v Speaker 1>my dignity. I was a hard working cop. I never

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anybody. I never kidnapped anybody. I never did any

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Eppolito gave a lengthy final speech that's been

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<v Speaker 1>adequately described as a quote rambling defense about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>live up to his father's pressures. He claimed he had

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<v Speaker 1>always tried to live down the reputation of his father,

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<v Speaker 1>Fat the Gangster, and told the judge quote, I was

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<v Speaker 1>one hell of a cop. I tried my best on

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<v Speaker 1>every case. I can hold my head up high. In

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<v Speaker 1>response from within the courtroom, the son of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the victims yelled quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Rot Benton Campbell, united States Attorney for the Eastern District

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<v Speaker 2>of New York, stated quote, the sentences imposed today bring

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<v Speaker 2>some measure of closure. For the families of the victims

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<v Speaker 2>of these defendants unspeakable crimes, and for the citizens of

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<v Speaker 2>the city whose trust these men betrayed. We are gratified

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<v Speaker 2>that the defendants will spend the rest of their lives

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<v Speaker 2>behind bars.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one catch, though, and it left a bad

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<v Speaker 1>taste in a lot of people's mouths. Both men had

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<v Speaker 1>been drawing tax free disability pensions from the city since

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<v Speaker 1>they left the police department. That was according to city records. Karakappa,

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<v Speaker 1>a retired first grade detective, received five three hundred thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month. Atpallito, a retired second grade detective, received

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, eight hundred ninety six dollars a month, and

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<v Speaker 1>because they retired before they were accused, convicted, and sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to these crimes, their pensions would stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Carara Kappa was incarcerated at the Coleman Federal Correctional Complex,

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<v Speaker 2>a maximum security prison in Florida. In June of twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote a letter to the court to consider his

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<v Speaker 2>compassionate release because he was suffering from cancer. According to

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<v Speaker 2>court records, In his letter, he stated, quote, please know

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<v Speaker 2>I have been fighting the case in the courts since

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<v Speaker 2>being convicted with no relief. I have stage four cancer

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<v Speaker 2>and will not survive. Compassionate release is usually early release

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<v Speaker 2>or parole given to an incarcerated patient with serious or

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<v Speaker 2>debilitating illness. Judge Weinstein denied the request, stating in a

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<v Speaker 2>letter filed in Brooklyn Federal court, quote, there is nothing

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<v Speaker 2>I can do in your case. Kara Koppa died in

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<v Speaker 2>April of twenty seventeen in a Federal Correctional Complex medical

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<v Speaker 2>unit in Butner, North Carolina, at the age of seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Epallito was incarcerated at the United States Penitentiary Tucson, a

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<v Speaker 1>high security federal prison. He was not visited by any

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<v Speaker 1>of the victim's families. He died on November third, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of seventy one, in federal custody at

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<v Speaker 1>a Tucson hospital. What is known of his death is

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<v Speaker 1>in a single statement made from his wife to the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Post quote, Lewis died in a hospital with

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<v Speaker 1>dignity and carrying people around him. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a double with me?

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Let's find the happy spot here. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>one that we can pull out of those?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? So here's the thing. You have accidentally in choosing

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<v Speaker 1>this story, given me an opportunity to use something that

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<v Speaker 1>I have been secretly workshopping for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, that's great. That right there is the

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<v Speaker 2>best news of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so obviously a lot of Italians involved in this story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what is more Italian than a tomato? I have been

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about ways to make friends with tomatoes and

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<v Speaker 1>drinks because I still don't like a bloody mary. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna happen. And then I had this kakamami

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<v Speaker 1>idea recently, like as I was dropping off to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>where I was like, could I make tomato syrup? And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You could. But then the second question is do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to eat tomatoes syrup?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes, Okay. To make tomato syrup in

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<v Speaker 1>a saucepan, you're gonna bring a cup of water, a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of brown sugar, and two to three small to

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<v Speaker 1>medium dice tomatoes to a boil. I recommend like fresh tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I very fortunately had a friend that brought some over

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<v Speaker 1>from her garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she probably had hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you want ideally you want a tomato that

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<v Speaker 1>already has a sweeter profile rather than an acidic profile.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're going for. So you're gonna bring those

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<v Speaker 1>to a boil when they get there, reduce the heat,

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<v Speaker 1>let them simmer down until the liquid is reduced by

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<v Speaker 1>about a third. This is gonna take a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case longer probably than others. Because tomatoes are

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<v Speaker 1>juicy by nature, they're adding a little more liquid to

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<v Speaker 1>the mix. Then when you have it reduced, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let it cool. You're going to strain off the tomato

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<v Speaker 1>stuff into a clean jar for storage, keep it in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge for several weeks. Usually when I do something

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<v Speaker 1>like this, I'm like, and then spread that on your

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<v Speaker 1>toast and you can sure, but it's gonna taste like

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<v Speaker 1>a sugar tomato, which is interesting actually. But once you

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<v Speaker 1>have this, then you're ready to make your cocktail, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling the dirty cop This is three quarters of

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<v Speaker 1>an ounce of lemon juice, three quarters of an ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of that tomato syrup. You've made a splash of a morrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and any brand will work. So you're thinking of things

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<v Speaker 1>like Campari, apparol for net et cetera. Obviously those all

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<v Speaker 1>have slightly different flavor. Profiles and differences in the level

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<v Speaker 1>of bitterness that will shift the drink a little. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a splash a tiny amount, less than

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of an ounce, So you want it to

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<v Speaker 1>add a bitter base note to it, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to change the whole drink too much. And then

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this, you're gonna add an ounce and

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<v Speaker 1>a half of bourbon. And then you're gonna shake this

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<v Speaker 1>with ice and strain it over fresh ice. I like

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<v Speaker 1>a Collins glass for this one. Top it with just

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<v Speaker 1>a teeny bit of club soda, like an ounce or less.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want much because you want all of these flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you are dune ski And this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird variation on a John Collins and it has

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<v Speaker 1>a very unique flavor because you don't get the acid

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<v Speaker 1>of the tomato, but you get the rest of the flavor,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty interesting. And it doesn't it's definitely sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not tart. To make it a mocktail, basically, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of amorrow, you're gonna use a little bit of bitters.

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<v Speaker 1>If you use bitters, if you do absolutely zero alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and bitters are off the table. I would add both

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of salt and a little bit of pepper,

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<v Speaker 1>and then instead of bourbon, you're gonna use dark tea.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a different tasting drink than the cocktail, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also really good. It's like you've made some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of yummy, really interesting iced tea and it's delicious. It's

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<v Speaker 1>full of lycopene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it is. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>the lycopene survives the process. It might, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the dirty cop which is a fun reason

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<v Speaker 1>to use my tomato syrup idea, which is actually pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have used it also in some other drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't use it again here because I try not

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat too much. But like, you can make this

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<v Speaker 1>same colins, like as a regular tom collins with gin,

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<v Speaker 1>as a vodka colins with vodka. You can also use

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<v Speaker 1>it in just other cocktails. You can also do a

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<v Speaker 1>tomato and soda or a tomato and champagne.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those ingredients where I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>to just try it and a whole bunch of things. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because how much does this ever come up?

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<v Speaker 1>In Live Never? And the brown sugar, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the key because it just adds a lot of depth

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and it's not a white, your standard white

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<v Speaker 1>granulated sugar. It just doesn't seem like it's gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>to me. So hopefully if you try it, you like it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dirty Cop. We are so grateful that you spent

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<v Speaker 1>time with us here this week hearing about these dirty

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<v Speaker 1>cops and the cocktail to go with it. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>another tale of criminal duos next week, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>some more drinks. We hope to see you there. Criminalia

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