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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Buffalo twenty eight Kansas City twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I looked at this number today. To me, this was

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Speaker 1: this was really the game is that Mahomes was uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen was really comfortable. He was sacked three times,

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Speaker 1: hit fifteen times. And when Mahomes John doesn't trust his

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Speaker 1: offensive line, it changes, it changes the way he plays,

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Speaker 1: He presses, takes more risks. And I thought the game

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Speaker 2: I just know this, if the Bills can find a

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl because they thoroughly outplayed him today,

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Speaker 2: outgained to by one hundred yards. We're up double digits

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Speaker 2: that Bills team that we just saw. That team can

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Yeah, but we see them on

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Speaker 2: a weekly basis now look as good on defense, the

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Speaker 2: pass rush isn't always there. Joey Bosa looked like, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know where that version of the Bills is

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Speaker 2: I mean, Colin, this is now kind of a theme

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Speaker 1: Well, they were sixty percent on third down. They had

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Speaker 1: But I felt like today this was this was Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: So again I watched that game. The intensity felt different today.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chicago Bears forty seven, Bengals forty two.

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Speaker 2: What a game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it shouldn't have come to this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely better. He's he's solid. He has not been.

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Speaker 1: It's just it is a little bit like being a

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Speaker 1: baseball pitcher. I what I worry about what JJ McCarthy is.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like this was brock Purty. You know

431
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Speaker 1: when the Niners Christian McCaffrey is upright, I don't even

432
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Speaker 1: care who the quarterback is. I mean like, if Christian

433
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey plays today at half their yards, it doesn't matter

434
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Speaker 1: if it's mac Jones or Brock pretty I do feel

435
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Speaker 1: with Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, good left tackle. I kind

436
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Speaker 1: of feel like it's hard to evaluate JJ because the coach,

437
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: the left tackle, and the receiver are so good. It's

438
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Speaker 1: like San Francisco with Kyle and Christian McCaffrey. And then

439
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 1: when Kittle is healthy and Jennings can be, you know,

440
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Speaker 1: highly productive, how valuable is the quarterback? So this is

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Speaker 1: an anti JJ McCarthy. I just think I think again,

442
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Speaker 1: I think I just need more of him. I just

443
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Speaker 1: have to see more games. I thought Brian Flores was

444
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Speaker 1: gay ball Brian Flores.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think it's fair for JJ McCarthy. The

446
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: bar of how he's being judged should be higher than

447
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: a lot of random young quarterbacks on bad teams. When

448
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: you play for crappy franchises and you lose, I expect that.

449
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: Like whoever the Carolina Panthers draft, I don't expect it

450
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Speaker 2: to look great. But when you get Justin Jefferson in

451
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Speaker 2: his prime, Howkinson, Jordan Addison, Kevin o'connoff. We had a

452
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Speaker 2: coaching draft, where would Kevin o' he'd go in the

453
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Speaker 2: top five? Yes, so everything, And this was Trey Lance's

454
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Speaker 2: thing when you get drafted to a team whose expectations are, yeah,

455
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: let's win fourteen games and compete for the conference championship,

456
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Speaker 2: you just get judged a lot differently. And I'll give

457
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Speaker 2: JJ credit in the Bears game, he had huge moments

458
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: in a big time today. At the end of the game,

459
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Speaker 2: with the game on the line, his coach put in

460
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Speaker 2: his hands and he delivered. And that's where I think

461
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Speaker 2: a lot of his defenders go with the quote unquote

462
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Speaker 2: he's a winner. There is some winning characteristics when you're

463
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Speaker 2: comfortable in big moments. You go back to that moment

464
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: against Alabama where it looked like Harbaugh had this all

465
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Speaker 2: time great roster and he was gonna lose in the

466
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Speaker 2: playoffs to Nick saban On, probably, I bet Nick would

467
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Speaker 2: say one of his worst ever playoff teams. JJ made

468
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Speaker 2: some great plays. You watched his first start against the Bears,

469
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Speaker 2: Big spot, made some great plays. And today on I

470
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Speaker 2: thought they were just gonna run it and just hey,

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Speaker 2: lean it on floors. They put in his hands. Great throw, Colin,

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Speaker 2: not a good throw, a great deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I watched him at Michigan, that was always

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Speaker 1: my take. Moves, Well, gritty kid didn't make a ton

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Speaker 1: of big throws, but he'd make one or two NFL

476
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Speaker 1: Sunday throws. He can make the big throws. So I

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Speaker 1: just don't have a ton, you know. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: say what you want about bow Knicks. I've got like

479
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Speaker 1: a six game winning streak and he's got a one

480
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Speaker 1: nineteen passer rating, nine touchdowns, no pick in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of samples of bow Knicks. He

482
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Speaker 1: can have gaps, but late he's really good. So I

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Speaker 1: with JJ, I've never been a huge believer, but I thought,

484
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Speaker 1: you know what, to go to Detroit, you got the deal. Well,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, you win in a lot of different ways.

486
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Speaker 1: Not every Sunday for Brady was great. That Teddy Bruski crew.

487
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Speaker 1: There were days that Tom didn't do a lot of

488
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Speaker 1: heavy lifting. He was twenty to twenty eight with a

489
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Speaker 1: lot of underneath stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, if I was going to defend, you know,

491
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Speaker 2: JJ hasn't been playing Carson has or, but definitely Caleb Williams.

492
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Speaker 2: They're i mean Caleb's defense. Sometimes you watch the Bears

493
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Speaker 2: on defense and they just look atrocious in Minnesota. Till today,

494
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Speaker 2: they had been pretty bad this season. Colin, I mean

495
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Speaker 2: today was and even today they gave it. It's not

496
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Speaker 2: like they gave up ten points. I mean, and they

497
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Speaker 2: had some drop balls. I mean there were plays to

498
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Speaker 2: be made. Like the defense is on those two teams,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Bo Knicks. We might have just watched the

500
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Speaker 2: two best defense in the league play each other today, right,

501
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: The physicality of Denver and Houston and how good their

502
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Speaker 2: defensive lines are. So anytime you have a defense that

503
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Speaker 2: is that good does back you up when you're not

504
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: making plays. But I'd say all three of these guys

505
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Speaker 2: have one thing going for him JJ McCarthy. Now, obviously

506
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Caleb and bow Knicks making plays in big spots. And

507
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Speaker 2: I think when you look at Caleb and bo Nicks,

508
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Speaker 2: they've had a lot of snaps now in their career.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sean Payton, I mean, look at the coaches, Kevin O'Connell,

510
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. Such an advantage, such a huge advantage.

511
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Speaker 1: Steelers twenty seven, Colts twenty Pittsburgh's defense again is completely

512
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Speaker 1: feast or famine. In the two best wins for the Steelers,

513
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Speaker 1: New England and Indy eleven takeaways, and the other games

514
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: they can be the Bengals, they have huge Holes. So

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Aaron Rodgers, I've defended a ball year

516
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Speaker 1: Aaron Brett Farv's first season with the Vikings. Remember that

517
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Speaker 1: magical season Brett Farv had with the Vikings. Farv had

518
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Speaker 1: thirty three touchdowns and completed sixty eight percent of his throws.

519
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: Aaron is on pace to have thirty six touchdowns and

520
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: complete sixty eight percent of his throws. Both struggled with

521
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Speaker 1: the Jets, which is Siberia, right, Nobody, Darnold Farv, Rogers,

522
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: nobody can win with the Jets. But this was a

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Speaker 1: great example. Daniel Jones did not have a consistent run game.

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00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers defense, and again we saw it

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Speaker 1: with I mean it's amazing. We saw it with Minnesota today.

526
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Speaker 1: Their defense is like, oh, we're in Detroit. JJ McCarthy's starting.

527
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Speaker 1: This is on us. We saw it with the Steelers today.

528
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, here come the Colts. They're favored over us.

529
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Speaker 1: This is the hottest team in the league. And that

530
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Speaker 1: offensive line for Indy for the first time this year

531
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: got pushed around a little bit. So and you know,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones thirty one fifty. Again, I don't think Daniel

533
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Speaker 1: Jones should be throwing fifty times when you don't run

534
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the ball, that's what you have to do. But this

535
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Speaker 1: was another example. We've talked about this all all day

536
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Speaker 1: today Buffalo, those defense playing Mahomes defense is about like

537
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: energy and juice. And I thought Pittsburgh just feasted today.

538
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: Looked like a different defense than they had in most

539
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Speaker 1: of the weeks this year.

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Speaker 2: You uh bringing up that Minnesota team with farv I

541
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Speaker 2: think it was nine. I just looked Jared Allen, who

542
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: just went to the Hall of Fame, had fifteen sacks

543
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: that year. And I think the last couple of weeks

544
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: you've been watching. You just gave TJ one hundred million dollars?

545
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: Where's he been? And today I thought their season was

546
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: on the line this game. You know this is a

547
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: Tomlin spot as an underdog. He was just in the

548
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: same spot against the Packers and got killed. So if

549
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: you would have played the results before the game kicked

550
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: off and said, well, the Steelers lose. So I've seen

551
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: him losing home to Seattle, Green Bay and Indy three

552
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: playoff teams like you got Baltimore running you down written

553
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: all over you. You need to win this game because

554
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you lose. You have four wins,

555
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens have three, and they are trending up and

556
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: you are trending down. I thought this was a kitchen

557
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: sink game and it was seven to nothing. Indie had

558
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: the ball and they were driving. I went, I feel

559
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: like they scored a touchdown here and go down fourteen

560
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: to nothing. The Steelers seasons basically over around Halloween. Yeah,

561
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 2: and TJ. Watt made the play, force the fumble, they

562
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: got the ball back, they scored, and then I think

563
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: they scored like ten more points, seventeen to seven and

564
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: a half. You're like, okay, and then they just started

565
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: creating turnover sacks, picks. It's like, well, if their defense

566
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Speaker 2: plays like this, they can be a terror. They could

567
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: be a ten to eleven win team. That could make

568
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: them that could win a playoff game. But the defense

569
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Speaker 2: we've seen the previous two weeks, Colin, they not only

570
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: have no shot in the playoffs, they weren't gonna win

571
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: the division. So it's just what TJ. Watt, who's kind

572
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: of the heart beat really of their team, which is

573
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: classic Steelers right, a pass rusher, but when he plays

574
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Speaker 2: like that, the other guy's feed off them. Yeah, they

575
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: could beat They didn't just make Indye look bad. I

576
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: mean they were killing him. They made Daniel Jones I

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: wrote down like, does this give you any pause because

578
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: if he plays a good defense, he I don't want

579
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: to say he just completely melted, but it was because

580
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: he's getting hit a lot. Man. It did not look good.

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Speaker 1: Gon No, he didn't play you know, the RAMS game again,

582
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't as dominant the I think it's really interesting that,

583
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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Tomlin, I don't think is terribly current

584
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, online development and run game.

585
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: And this is where I think Aaron deserves a lot

586
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: of credit. Aaron. Aaron didn't play safe much in his

587
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: career unless he uncorked a couple of bad interceptions and

588
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: then Aaron would like bring it down in a game

589
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: like he was protecting a passer rating and I noticed it.

590
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think this team. I think he's playing

591
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: this team. I've said ten times. I think he's really

592
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: playing the position the way a steener quarterback should play

593
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: the position. This is a high completion percentage offense with

594
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: big targets that you can get the ball that can

595
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: break a tackle. This kind of team and I think

596
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: Aaron has to lead the offense. Tomlin on his own

597
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: over the last seven years has not shown an ability

598
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: to get the old line of the run game right.

599
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh's Ahlwa has been under Tomlin such a good dog.

600
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: And also the Ravens one Thursday night, so that put

601
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: more pressure on the Steelers as they watched the Ravens

602
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: blow out the Dolphins. So it's like, oh crap. So

603
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things. I mean, Daniel Jones

604
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: had one touchdown and three picks today, and I thought

605
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: it was fairly obvious that from the very get go

606
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: there was a different attitude when you back Tomlin into

607
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: a corner. His teams have always played differently.

608
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: That's why I thought they were And he was kind

609
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: of at a fork in the road spot because if

610
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: he couldn't win this game, his time with the Steelers

611
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: is over because this is his spot. The other thing

612
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: looking at obviously they couldn't. I mean they had the

613
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: lead all the second half. They ran for thirty eight

614
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: yards column they average under two yards to carry. Did

615
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: you see Diana? She put out a bunch of like

616
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: trade scuttle butt I think yesterday and one of the

617
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: things were Breze Hall with the Jets, who Aaron knows, Like, listen,

618
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: you miss on Caleb Caleb Johnson. Maybe in a couple

619
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: of years he's fine, but right now he can't help you.

620
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: You're all in on this season. If Aaron goes listen,

621
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: I like that guy a lot. I think you would help.

622
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Shouldn't they be really interested in that because they feel

623
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: like they need a running back desperately. Well, you're asking

624
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren to carry the load and that's just not

625
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: really his thing.

626
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they've done a great job through the

627
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: years to draft edge rushers and wide receivers. They're hitt

628
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: and miss on quarterbacks. I could make an argument it's

629
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: go time. I honestly think Aaron's gonna play this year

630
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: and next. Do you I think he's gonna I think

631
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: he's comfortable. I think I don't know. I just he's

632
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: not getting hit a lot. I kind of feel like

633
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: this is about you know, I said before the season,

634
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I thought they went andering on games. It's gone better

635
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: than I thought. For Erin, I really have one. It's

636
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: a little smoother.

637
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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I thought he would look older. He's

638
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: he's been a little bit of a fountain of youth. Yes,

639
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: you know, he's just moving around a little bit younger.

640
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: I expected it to get worse. I know people say

641
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Speaker 2: second year off in Achilles. It's one thing when you're

642
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Speaker 2: twenty eight, another thing when you're forty one. I do

643
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: think when you look at Tomlin, because he's a good

644
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 2: example what you're saying, why Aaron might return, I think

645
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people go, why wouldn't you want a

646
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: fresh start? Because he's coaching the Steelers. It's kind of

647
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: a sweet job. Just like I've been, Aaron who's been

648
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: with the Packers realizes this is pretty awesome. Like playing

649
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: for Ohio State or Alabama football doesn't suck. I think

650
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: most guys that played basketball at Kansas or North Carolina

651
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: enjoy the experience. You know, being the coach or the

652
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers kind of has its perks.

653
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: So if you're Aaron, you feel pretty good. It's like, hey,

654
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: we'll pay another fifteen million dollars. The other thing is

655
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: they have a lot of old guys on the team. Yes,

656
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: part of the reason, you know, Tom, I think that

657
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay experience went well because by a second year

658
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: there most of those guys, even the Tampa Bay guys

659
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: are veteran players. He got to bring some other veterans,

660
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: a lot of like minded people, married kids, multiple kids,

661
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: pickup lines at school. So I think Aaron looks around TJ.

662
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: Watt's over thirty, Cam Hayward's thirty five, thirty six, Tomlin's

663
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: like this player version of a coach. Yep, they just

664
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Speaker 2: it's it's pretty tailor made for a veteran type quarterback

665
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: to go in and enjoy his time there, I would say.

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668
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Speaker 1: of the Colin Coward Podcast. Carolina Panthers beat Green Bay

669
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen. I had set on FS one Friday.

670
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: I think I said it three times. I said, this

671
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: has a weird trap game vibe for green Bay. It's

672
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: really weird. Green Bay average six yards of play, had

673
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: four hundred yards and thirteen points. They were good on

674
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: third down. You know when I and Packer fans are

675
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: just can't they're just beside themselves. With Matt Lafleur, I

676
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: was watching green Bay today and my take was Tucker Craft,

677
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Speaker 1: by the way, looks like he could be out for

678
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Speaker 1: the year. Torney c brutal, He's a great player. They're

679
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: not running the ball very well. I don't know why

680
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: this is, but I feel with this wide receiver and

681
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: tight end group, I feel they should you just give

682
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the offense to Jordan Love. Now, you made a horrific

683
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: throw that was dropped in the end zone by Carolina

684
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. I mean what's disappointing is Bryce Young didn't

685
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: even play well. I mean this was not yet a

686
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: weather advantage. It was a little cool and windy. Bryce

687
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Young did not play particularly well. Rico Dabble, by the way,

688
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: is the most underrated player in the league. Carolinea is

689
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: running back former Cowboys great. But I feel like this

690
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: is why I think the Rams are the best team

691
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Philadelphia and green Bay have an identity crisis.

692
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay does not know what they are offensive I

693
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: watched the Rams today and they know exactly what they are.

694
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: They are fast and aggressive defensively. Offensively, it's all about

695
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: efficiency to run the ball. It's highly efficient. I watched

696
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the Rams and I feel like they just they just

697
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: lean into what they are. They absolutely have complete utter

698
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Speaker 1: confidence in what they are. I don't know if Green

699
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Bay knows yet, and I kind of feel like Matt

700
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: is being conservative. That's my take, that you're picking up

701
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: the yards. But they were just it was weird today.

702
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Speaker 1: They had a fourth and like eight a't the thirteen

703
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: or fourteen yard line, and they went for it instead

704
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: of kicking a field goal, which is I wrote that down.

705
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Speaker 2: I may have the I was thirteen to six. That

706
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: was when he threw it across his body and the

707
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: guy drost a pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just so that was like, what are you doing?

709
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

710
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I just don't think they know what they are.

711
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: They were the most disappointing team of the weekend by far.

712
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, coming off the momentum they had. They had

713
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: such a great half last week against the Steelers. I

714
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: mean they flipped a switch. It's like, this is one

715
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the league. I would have

716
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: said coming in today, we're doing this before Seattle, but

717
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: Seattle the Rams. It's hard to include the Niners with

718
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: their injuries, so I'd go Seattle, Rams, Pittsburgh or excuse me, Philadelphia,

719
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: and then the two teams from the North. But you

720
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: watch obviously the Lions. Their quarterback can't really move and

721
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: if you can hit them, and then whatever goes on

722
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: with this Green Bay offense. At one point in time

723
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: I looked down. They had like almost two hundred and

724
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: fifty yards of offense and six points and they were

725
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: zero and four in the red zone. They were just

726
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: atrocious in the red zone. I saw Matt LaForce after

727
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: the games, like, hey, they're taking away our explosive plays.

728
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: We're just dinking and dunkin to death. But I don't know.

729
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I obviously Carolina is a little better than

730
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: we thought. I mean they were five and four, and

731
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Speaker 2: I think the dust's gonna settle and they're gonna win

732
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: eight nine games, be very competitive and have some upsets.

733
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Speaker 2: But at home that should be a huge advantage for

734
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Speaker 2: Green Bay. Yeah, they were atrocious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the he miss t Mac was wide open. Xavier

736
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Speaker 1: la Get Bryce Young did not play particularly well. This

737
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Speaker 1: should be and you have four hundred yards and average

738
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Speaker 1: six yards of play. This was not a game in

739
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: which you couldn't move the ball. I will say I

740
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: do think Carolina defensively is fast. Like Carolina's draft, you know,

741
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of high draft picks and you know,

742
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: people always look at the first round pick, but you're

743
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: drafting high on the second and the third, and the

744
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: fourth and the fifth and the sixth. So Carolina's got

745
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Speaker 1: some guys. I mean they can they can get really physical,

746
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: they're quick. But I just I think this is something

747
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: that is really under discussed in sports. What are you?

748
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: I remember when we started the volume, I would tell

749
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: my guys, barstool is something you know, I Ringer is,

750
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: we have to become what are we? Like? You have

751
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: to identify what are you? And without doing a big

752
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: branding campaign, you just have to become something. And I

753
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: look at the best teams in this league. Buffalo I

754
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: think has a real sense of what they are right now.

755
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Green Bay knows. And I and it's

756
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: weird because Matt's an offensive guy, he should have a

757
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: greater sense of what they are. Offensive coaches generally, like

758
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton, Andy Reid McVeigh, I rarely doubt the

759
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: identity of the offense. I mean, Kyle Shanahan knows basically,

760
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is the offense. The quarterback's less relevant than

761
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: the star running back. But I look at Green Bay

762
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: right now, and I think they have to. That's a

763
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: team that needs like a bye week or a come

764
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: to Jesus meeting. That's what it feels like. Matt Lafleur

765
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: needs to come to Jesus meeting with Jordan Love, give

766
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: him the keys. They're not running the ball consistently and

767
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: go for it. Well.

768
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Speaker 2: I think in their two losses against the Browns and

769
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: obviously today, their offense really let them down because their

770
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: defense is not allowing points. I mean, I think the

771
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: Browns game they lost thirteen to ten. In this one

772
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: they lost sixteen to thirteen. So that is squarely on

773
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: your head coach's side of the ball. And ultimately a

774
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: quarterback who you're paying a lot of money, who we

775
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 2: just saw last week. I mean, I understand the Steelers

776
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 2: defense was a little off, but how good did Jordan

777
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: Love look last week? How is there a more you know,

778
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: Jekyll and Hyde player right now in the league that

779
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: on any given game he can look like the MVP

780
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: of the league and then today you go, what the

781
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: hell was that? And part of it, I think it's

782
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: very fair to combine him with the coach. I do

783
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Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, Lafleur has proven

784
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: he's more like Kyle. He wants to run the ball. Yes,

785
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: that he is an Andy or a McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: Jos, I mean Josh Jacobs is a very good player.

787
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Speaker 1: He's a top ten twelve running back. He's a very

788
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Speaker 1: very good player.

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Speaker 2: If Craft is injured, that's that's devastating.

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Speaker 1: It is I I it's not that Green Bay can't

791
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: run the ball, but they don't to me when I

792
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Speaker 1: watch them, I don't feel like that's their identity. To

793
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think there. I think craft

794
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Speaker 1: and love sometimes like that's who I trust.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: four New York Giants twenty four. Christian McCaffrey had twenty

802
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Speaker 1: eight carries. He led San Francisco in catches rushing rushing

803
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Speaker 1: touchdowns fifty percent of total yards. He's so good they

804
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: dominate time of possession. I will say this Jackson Dart again.

805
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Speaker 1: It was I talked to Jason McIntyre today and he's

806
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, so he's like, I don't know what

807
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: he is. He moves really well, he plays. You can

808
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: see his confidence. He hit seven different receivers. I mean

809
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like they found their guy. That's

810
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Speaker 1: what I mean that no neighbors, no Skataboo. I watched

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Speaker 1: him today. I don't think personnel wise this is a

812
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: great forty nine ers defense. But I don't know. My

813
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: take is I just see the confidence, kind of the thickness,

814
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: the arm. He moves well. If I'm the New York Giants, honestly,

815
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Speaker 1: I don't care if I win games. I want another

816
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: great draft pick. I think they found their guy.

817
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the big picture question mark with them

818
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: is Didestable get another year because this was his guy?

819
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Or do you just blow it up and you get

820
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: him on the cycle of all these young quarterbacks over

821
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: the last three or four years that derails their career.

822
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: And to me, he's shown enough that you can make

823
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: the argument either way. I think that's Skataboo injury. Yeah,

824
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: from an energetic just there was some oomph that he

825
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Speaker 2: brought to the team. That is, you can't replace once

826
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: you lose that to go hand in hand with Dart,

827
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: and they've already lost neighbors. So he's throwing I mean,

828
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: look at the guys he's throwing to here, Darius Slayton, one,

829
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Dale Robinson. It's not now you can say the same

830
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: thing for the Niners. But the Niners still have more

831
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: healthy players. And Kyle's a better coach than Table. So

832
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: you saw Kyle Shanahan roll in with Mac Jones and

833
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: control the game.

834
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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is, you know Mac Jones a good

836
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Speaker 2: example that after that first year in New England when

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00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: Josh was there, they won ten games. Over the next

838
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: two years when he was the starter, and he got

839
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Speaker 2: banged up a little bit during that time. He won

840
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: a total of eight games over his last two seasons

841
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: in New England. He's won five this year for Kyle Shanahan.

842
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: And I think Kyle mentioned after the game with Perty's

843
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: turf toe like it's all year. If he is able

844
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: to come back, he's just going to reinjury. It's not

845
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 2: one of those things to go away. There's a decent

846
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: chance that Mac Jones is just starts the rest of

847
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: the season and they win ten games. Some years, Shawn's

848
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: had a couple of these the last couple of years

849
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: when you're not gonna win the Super Bowl or even

850
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: get there. But it's kind of a you know, a

851
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: little bit of a pelt on the wall. This is

852
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: a big year for Kyle, kind of muscle flex winning

853
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: all these games with Mac Jones, because you watch all

854
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: these teams get to their backup quarterback and they just crumble,

855
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: and he should beat the Giants. But to just go

856
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: in and handle a team on the road with your

857
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: backup quarterback like that is it's really been pretty This

858
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: is a team that ceiling is limited now because of

859
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: the injuries, but they look like they're barreling toward ten

860
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: and seven with they might all have just lost their

861
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: first round pick today to an ACL the kids in Georgia.

862
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'll die on this hill. I think

863
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Max throws a prettier ball than Brock Pretty. I think

864
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: he's a little less reckless, and I think he throws

865
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: a prettier ball. I think he throws a first round

866
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: draft pick ball. I think Pretty moves better. I think

867
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Purty sees the field really, really exceptionally well. But when

868
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: I watch Mac Jones and he's got time to throw,

869
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: I think he throws a really good ball.

870
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say neither of them. Where I would

871
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: disagree is neither of them have first round ball out

872
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: of their hand. But I think Mac is probably more

873
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: natural because he's a little taller throwing from within the pocket. Yeah,

874
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: and Perty's just a dynamic thrower on the run and

875
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: pretty accurate down the field. But Mac over the middle

876
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: of the field. I mean, they just signed Kendrick Bourne

877
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: off the Literally, he was just in the airport, didn't

878
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: have a job. They signed him. He just every single

879
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: game makes place. But like you said, McCaffrey, it's pretty crazy.

880
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: I mean they have they play the Rams this week

881
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: at home, which they probably shouldn't win with their injuries,

882
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: but that they're even in this position. If Kyle does

883
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: win a game like that and sweeps the Rams and

884
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: just has them more than ten wins, it's I'm probably

885
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: not gonna win Coach of the Year, but he should

886
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: be in the mix because what he's doing with the team,

887
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: he's rolling out. The difference of his team and the

888
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: Giants team injuries is not much. All the guys he's lost.

889
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: He's probably lost more. I don't think any team in

890
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: the league has lost more guys in than nine maybe

891
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: maybe the Chargers.

892
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: You know what's remarkable to me, and maybe it's I

893
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: was thinking about this today. So the Rams beat the

894
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: Saints thirty four to ten. Time of possession was forty

895
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: three minutes to seventeen. I mean it was. It almost

896
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: fell like a practice. Is that? Whereas Philadelphia and Green

897
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Bay kind of struggle to figure out what they are

898
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: because the Dodgers are taking so much glare in Los

899
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: Angeles away from football and should the Rams are really good.

900
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we forget they went in London and they

901
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: blow out Jacksonville like thirty five to seven. Rams. Right now,

902
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: John are really really good. Puka came back today, Korum

903
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: played okay. They have a two headed run game. Now,

904
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: they have four healthy tight ends. Jordan Winningham, that sixth

905
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: round draft pick. They have a sixth and a seventh

906
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: round wide receiver that can play a little bit. The

907
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: defense is excellent up front, I think quietly, I mean,

908
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: if you took and I really believe this, I think

909
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: the Rams are the most consistent, best coached right now,

910
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: healthiest team. I don't think the old line is great.

911
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I think it's very good. I think they have a

912
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: great guard tandem. But I you know, and I had

913
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: this was a lower right hand corner game as I

914
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: was watching Kansas City and Buffalo. But Jesus, I mean

915
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, we've seen a lot of upsets

916
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: this year and a lot of weird shit. That thing

917
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: today was a practice. It was just it was just

918
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: easy peasy, and I mean it's Stafford. At one point,

919
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what he finished. He had four touchdowns,

920
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: no picks. Jesus, they were getting seven yards of carry.

921
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: The rams are really good.

922
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: He was thirty four to thirty two for two hundred

923
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: eighty yards and four touchdowns.

924
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Thirty four.

925
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: The other or no, twenty four to thirty two, oh

926
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: for two eighty so he had eight incompletions. I'd say

927
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: the scary thing these last couple games is DeVante has

928
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. So when that you figure out that report

929
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: to go along with Puka. Now, Pook at any moment,

930
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: you know, take some vicious hits. He runs guys over.

931
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, can this guy stay healthy? But those two

932
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: guys are on the field right now, they're as good

933
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: of a one to two combos, like in terms of

934
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: production and what they bring to the tables, like chasing Higgins.

935
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: They're on kind of unstoppable. And the one thing with DeVante,

936
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: he's very comfortable with the high end veteran quarterback in

937
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: his prime. With Aaron, it's kind of starting to feel

938
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: like that those guys cohesion, especially in the in the

939
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: red zone, has Matt Stafford kind of quietly because you know, today,

940
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people are dialed into

941
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: the Saints game, right, but four touchdowns, five touchdowns he

942
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: hit the exacton. I think he threw three in that

943
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: loss against the Niners. He's got to be directly in

944
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: the mix.

945
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: So I have said this before. This sounds crazy. So

946
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: he was better than Aaron Rodgers in high school, and

947
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: he was better than Aaron in college, and he was

948
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: better than Aaron for the first four years of his

949
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: NFL career. He's been better than Aaron for the last

950
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: four years of his NFL career. Aaron had a ten

951
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: eleven year stratch at Green Bay where Matt Stafford was.

952
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, he was with a losing organization and Aaron

953
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: had the well run outfit. What if Matt Stafford wins

954
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: another super Bowl, now think about that. He's got a

955
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: better playoff record. He was better early, better late. If

956
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford win, well, he's already a hall I think

957
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer now right, Matt Stafford's a

958
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame right now.

959
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: I put him. Yeah.

960
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: What if Matt Stafford wins a second Super Bowl? He's

961
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: always been considered one of the best arm talents of

962
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: our generation. That's indisputable. You could ask anybody the Brady's

963
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: ask Aaron asked far they all go, yes, Stafford's it.

964
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: Where do you put him all the time? Serious question?

965
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford wins a second Super Bowl. I'm telling you

966
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of guys I'd put above him.

967
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't have he didn't have quite the

968
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: gravitass of your Brady, Montana, Manning and Elway. But Marino's

969
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: got no super Bowls, He's got two. I don't know.

970
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: I Stafford is watching him this season? Shit, man, he is.

971
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: He is dialed in, He's comfortable.

972
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

973
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: What do you do with him all time? If he

974
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: wins a second.

975
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: Well, to me, it's hard. I mean you could make

976
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: the argument, Aaron's a top five guy, you know, with Manning, Montana,

977
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: Brady Elway, pretty short list. To me, I don't think

978
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: most people would include Stafford in the top ten of quarterbacks. Now,

979
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: granted he played for the Lions and not the Dan

980
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: Campbell Lions.

981
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: Would you have put him if he has a second

982
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? He's a better arm talent than Drew Brees.

983
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Matt, Yeah, to me, there is not. If I could

984
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: get here, here's the argument. If you could get twenty

985
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 2: three year old Matt Stafford or and start listing out quarterbacks,

986
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: he would go ahead of a lot of guys because

987
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: he's showing that what if Matt Stafford had been drafted

988
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: by a hardball brother, an Andy Reid, a Sean Payton

989
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: right when he was twenty three, instead of going to

990
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: the Lions, who always drafted high right, and they're two

991
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: best players beside him quit at thirty years old. I mean,

992
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: it's a pretty the Lions that if you're a twelve

993
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: year old kid right now, you can't even comprehend this conversation.

994
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: But I do think that the time with the Lions,

995
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: he has had years where he's thrown a lot of

996
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: picks he can be a little reckless the way he's

997
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: playing right now, though, like his ceiling. The one thing

998
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: I will say about this, his ceiling is as high

999
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: as any player.

1000
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1001
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Ever, like he can go toe to toe when he's on.

1002
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: I say this about Camp. Camp can have individual games

1003
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: where he can outplay any guy in the league, and

1004
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: that was Prian Brady, Prian Manning. Now Stafford's a better

1005
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: player than Camp, but in that same vein of like,

1006
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: if you get Stafford in the right day or the

1007
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: right month, he can just be the best player in

1008
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: the league now. And I do think this second kind

1009
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: of iteration of his career with Sean is going to

1010
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: be a really powerful moment for his career, and he'll

1011
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: have like the Kurt Warner type the individual seasons. I

1012
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: just think it's hard to shake that that lion stretch,

1013
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: because while winning and losing isn't a quarterback statistic, most

1014
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: good quarterbacks win a lot, not all his fault. But

1015
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: I do think he probably developed some bad habits there

1016
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: because he had.

1017
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk some World series. So that's about as

1018
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: good a World series, especially Game six and seven, as

1019
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. So I you know,

1020
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. You know, Dave Roberts

1021
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: pulled all these levers, uh, you know, like he just

1022
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: pulled all these levers and to win a World Series

1023
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: where you know, he puts in Rojas and then out

1024
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: the defensive outfielder in the ninth and he goes with

1025
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Yoshi again. Everything worked. But I think, you know, as

1026
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: I was, I was talking to a friend about this,

1027
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: is that Otani, Roki and Yoshi, and right now Yoshi

1028
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: is arguably the best pitcher and Otani is the best player.

1029
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: Roki's been moved to the pen. But these Japanese stars

1030
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: and Japanese baseball is like really high high Triple A.

1031
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: It's not quite the Bigs, but it's there's great players,

1032
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: and it's a The Dodgers have so separated financially from

1033
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: everybody else on I mean on the West coast that

1034
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they always had money. But the gap now

1035
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: between the Dodgers and the Giants and everybody else, the

1036
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Angels and the Mariners, is that these Japanese stars between

1037
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: weather and proximity and how well run the organization is.

1038
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers are smart, so they said, listen, the

1039
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: only downside the taxes just to fer the payment, so

1040
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: you can get paid when you've retired and lived somewhere else.

1041
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: Is that?

1042
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: A friend of mine in New York was saying, God,

1043
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: our teams are bad, But I said, New York, it

1044
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: is cold, it's intense, a much harsher media, the city

1045
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: tax LA has spread out. You can hide. I mean,

1046
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: I never see I was in LA nine years. I'm

1047
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: here right now. You never see pro athletes in LA.

1048
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: You can just ht. You never see celebrities in LA,

1049
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: and they're everywhere. There's writers, directors, star i mean, look

1050
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: how many pro teams were in LA. You never see

1051
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: athletes ever. It's just so spread out. There's so many

1052
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: gated communities. Calabasa's Hidden Hills, Malibu. You know, everybody's got

1053
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: these enclaves, Beverly Hills, bel Air, Windy Roads. You can

1054
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: hide thousand oaks, and I think they I think the

1055
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Dodgers right now, Steve Cohen's got money with the Mets,

1056
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: the Yankees have money. They just feel like with these

1057
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: Japanese stars. And you know the other thing, John, those

1058
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: guys don't listen to our media. It's like international NBA players.

1059
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: They come here, they play, and then they go home,

1060
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: they don't get caught up. They play so I mean,

1061
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Yoshi plays so loose in these big spots. He's so

1062
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: unaffected by the intensity and the chaos of the World Series.

1063
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just look at the Dodgers and

1064
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's another organization in North America that's

1065
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: run like they are.

1066
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: One of my best friends played college baseball and one

1067
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: of his teammates, you know, it was like a friend,

1068
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: big leaguer, triple A guy, and signed a deal with

1069
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: the Japanese team when Otani right before he came over,

1070
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: when he was alleged over there, and they went over

1071
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: and visited and went to the games, and they were

1072
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: at the highest level, and they said that it felt

1073
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: like an SEC football game. The intensity in the environment

1074
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: in Japan, the way these Yamamoto and Otani grew up playing,

1075
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they make it right. When they're sixteen, seventeen,

1076
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: eighteen years old started playing in that league, and they

1077
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: just said the intensity of the crowd would be like

1078
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: going to Alabama Auburn. How much these people know about

1079
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: baseball and how much they care. So these guys, the

1080
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: bright light's completely unfazed. When Otani was like one of

1081
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: twenty five through the first whatever of the playoffs. It

1082
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: wasn't because he was overwhelmed. He couldn't see the baseball right.

1083
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: But the difference I would say of baseball, like the

1084
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: Warriors can't win unless Steph is incredible during the playoffs. Right.

1085
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: In the NFL, you could have a random guy make

1086
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: a big play in a Super Bowl or an NFC championship,

1087
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 2: but your stars, your star quarterback, your star pass rusher

1088
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: have to come through or you were lose. In baseball,

1089
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: that's not really how it works. Yeah, I mean I

1090
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: was a Giants fan. Cody Ross in twenty ten hit

1091
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: home runs off Roy Halliday that no one saw coming.

1092
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia, the Dodgers won the World Series last night.

1093
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: You could argue because they rolled out four guys they're

1094
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: paying a combined one point five billion dollars two or

1095
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: because their ninth hitter in the in the ninth inning

1096
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: hits a game tying home run where they were going

1097
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: to lose the World Series, and then that same guy

1098
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: almost falls throws home and then their backup center fielder

1099
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: who had been benched. I'm watching with my wife, she

1100
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: falls out of her chair. She's like, what just happened.

1101
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: That had to be one of the crazier plays in

1102
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: World Series because it looked like he was going to

1103
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: basket catch it and this random center fielder tackles him

1104
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: like he's ed red across the middle and saves the game.

1105
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: But that's baseball, it's not. It wasn't no tany hitting.

1106
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: The walk up was Will Smith, Will Smith, Rojas and

1107
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: that big guy in center field.

1108
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and that's what makes.

1109
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: Bay pretty unique in the playoffs. It's not just your stars.

1110
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think and again, even when if you

1111
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: go back and look at the great Yankee teams with

1112
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Jeter and Bernie and Posada, you know it was Scott

1113
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Brocious from mcmnville, Oregon coming up big. So like nobody

1114
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: had a problem when the Yankees were buying the best

1115
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: players because people understood that Posada and Jeter that was

1116
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: part of the Yankee farm system. Well go look at

1117
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. They haven't missed. I mean, they they draft.

1118
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean Max Munsey was released from Oakland. I think

1119
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: they traded for Blake Snell. I mean, these guys are

1120
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: available on the market. The Steinbrenners could have afforded to

1121
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: buy Yoshi. They spent three hundred million. The Dodgers said

1122
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: three thirty five. They don't win the series without him,

1123
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: so they they identify who they want. They are aggressive.

1124
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: I think were the Dodgers where I see their money

1125
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: being an advantage because Mookie Betts did not outside of September,

1126
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: just didn't hit this year, played a very good short stuff,

1127
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't hit. Freddie Freeman's more offensive the defensive player, and

1128
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: Otani had real struggles at the plate throughout the playoffs.

1129
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: Where the Dodgers have an advantage a the Asian Stars obviously,

1130
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: but it's to get to get a glass Now or

1131
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: a Snell who may not give you a ton of

1132
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: starts during the regular season. Most teams cannot afford to

1133
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: pay a guy if he's not giving you twenty five.

1134
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Yoshi's the only guy that he never misses

1135
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: a start, like he's a true bona fide ace like

1136
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: verlind Or in his prime. You're getting thirty starts. They

1137
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: can go get a Snell and a glass now remarkably

1138
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: talented guys and get ten twelve starts in the regular

1139
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: season and just push him off to September. That's the

1140
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: advantage they have. But you can also, lots of teams

1141
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: could defer payments and they don't. The Dodgers do. So. Yes,

1142
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: money is clearly an ex but I think to your point,

1143
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: Yoshi was great, but there are a lot of guys slumping.

1144
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back to this World Series,

1145
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: the Blue Jay out hit the Dodgers, I mean the

1146
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: Dodgers in Game six to one. I think they had

1147
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: four hits. I mean they struggled the whole series to hit.

1148
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: I actually think baseball is much closer to football in

1149
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: terms of the Dodgers was two years ago. I mean

1150
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: almost got beat by the Padres in the play. It's

1151
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: the baseball. I don't care how good your team is

1152
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: in basketball. When I got the Kevin Durant Warriors, I'm

1153
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: gonna need Achilles tears and acl teares to loose. Other

1154
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 2: than that, I'm a lock to win. Shaq, Kobe Laker,

1155
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: some of these teams, it's gonna be ninety percent chance.

1156
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: I went the Dodgers roster can't get much better, and

1157
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: it was really difficult for them to win. I was

1158
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: just say they probably should have lost. You know, that's

1159
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: that's baseball.

1160
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: Though they won a World Series last year with really

1161
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: average starting pitching, and they won a World Series this

1162
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: year with a really average bullpen, which is virtually impossible

1163
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: to do if you're leaking in the back end. I mean,

1164
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: Yoshi basically is why they won the World Series. But

1165
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: I will say, having spent nine years full time in

1166
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, they just don't make a lot of mistakes.

1167
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: They don't. I mean, they let Zach Grinkey go. They

1168
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: could have made a big bid for him, he went

1169
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: to Arizona. They let Manny Machado go. They don't make

1170
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. And they've also let Cody Bellinger go.

1171
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: They've let good players, you know, leave. So money's obviously apart,

1172
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean the truth is in the NBA,

1173
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: during the David Stern years, money was apart, but the

1174
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: New York Knicks weren't winning. Some people don't spend the

1175
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: money as wisely. I mean, we know game day revenue,

1176
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Jets have much greater game day

1177
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: revenue than green Bay. Green Bay spends their money more wisely.

1178
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: When I was working in radio, I got to go

1179
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: to a lot of the A's were really good then,

1180
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: kind of in Billy Bean's prime and the Giants were

1181
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: winning a bunch of World Series. And I think sometimes

1182
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: in baseball, especially probably over the last decade, it gets

1183
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: overlooked because we spend so much time talking about these

1184
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: kind of the quote unquote nerds running the sport. I

1185
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: do think the best kind of nerds understand character and cohesion.

1186
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: And one thing you watch with the Dodgers, like feels

1187
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: like all these guys like each other and they had

1188
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: a good I would say with the Blue Jays, it

1189
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: jumped off the screen. It was like, this team looks

1190
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: like a college team all playing together. The San Franco Giants,

1191
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: you always had that Billy Bean always did a really

1192
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: good job of finding the right mix of guys. Baseball

1193
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: is about more and you watch the Yankees, it seems

1194
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: like missing a little something that's the knock. Like at

1195
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day in baseball, you still got

1196
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: to have some fast guys that can run. And you

1197
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: watch the Dodgers. Definitely the Blue Jays, they got their

1198
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: best players are athletes. The Yankees are a good example.

1199
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Their best players all look like, you know, move like

1200
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: defensive tackles. It's like you doesn't need a little speech.

1201
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Well, the Yankees strike out too much. They don't play

1202
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: small ball. The Dodgers have the ability to. I mean, listen,

1203
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Toronto hit the ball more consistently. The Dodgers had the

1204
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: better starting pitching. I mean, if you go back to

1205
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: the last year's World Series, the only time the Yankees

1206
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: competed with the Dodgers is when Garrett Cole pitched. The

1207
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: Yankees didn't look athletic enough, didn't run the bases. Well,

1208
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: they're not a very good defensive team. The Yankee strikeout

1209
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: too much, and they have tons of money, so you know,

1210
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's.

1211
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: One of the most thrilling endings to a World Series.

1212
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I think Game six and Game seven, the final

1213
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: innings are the greatest, most drama field. You have to

1214
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: go back to the seventy five I think it was

1215
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: seventy five World Series. It was Reds against the Red Sox.

1216
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: It's that Carlton fiskomer at Fenway where he's you know, yeah,

1217
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: waving at it, and I remember watching that as a kid.

1218
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the first baseball memory I have is

1219
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: like the seventy four, seventy five, seventy six Cincinnati Reds.

1220
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Because I was in Seattle, we didn't have the Mariners yet,

1221
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: and that's when I fell in love with football over baseball.

1222
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: But the mid seventies, the Big Red Machine, I fell

1223
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: in love with it, and that had I mean, I

1224
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: can go back to that series and throw names that

1225
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: you guys you've never heard. But I thought the magnitude

1226
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: it was just so I mean, you had Dave Roberts

1227
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: had to pull so many damn levers, you know, going

1228
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: with Rojas like old guy. I'm not even sure when

1229
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: his last home run was, Dave Roberts said, after his

1230
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: wife kept telling Rojas the whole series, you're going to

1231
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: hit a home run in this series? You are. And

1232
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not playing, I'm not kidding up. She's like,

1233
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit a home run tonight. So I just

1234
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: thought it was it was just everything. The announcing, the imagery, Fox,

1235
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, I mean Blue Jays over under. It

1236
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: was like seventy eight and a half talk about a

1237
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: team that just mashed and overachieved. Good for them.

1238
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: Before you get out of here, though, we do got

1239
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: to mention, you know, last night was a pretty big

1240
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: win for the Trojans. Where not gonna lie at halftime

1241
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: fourteen to six, it felt pretty bleak. It went, is

1242
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: Lincoln about to be the skinny Brian Kelly here because

1243
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: he can't win a road game?

1244
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: Listen, so us he beats Nebraska. I thought it was

1245
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: an uncreative, uninspiring effort. I mean, they completed nine passes.

1246
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: Not Nebraska's corners are pretty good, so.

1247
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Environment to play.

1248
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: It was a walk on right guard and a walk

1249
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: on running back, so they they were off a bye.

1250
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: They're still beat up at running back. They found this

1251
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: kid out of Calabasas High. This walk on is as

1252
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: good a walk on. I mean, it's just amazing how

1253
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: good this running back is. It's a is it Miller

1254
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: King or King?

1255
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1256
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: King, Miller King, Mill, Miller King, I'm sorry King Mill.

1257
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: You know you USC. When they're humming, they get random

1258
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: guys like it was Clay Matthews a walk on, so

1259
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: they they should get their walk on. Should be a

1260
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: little better than some.

1261
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: But I think watching USC last night, this was my

1262
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: big takeaway is that they're always offensively clever. Lincoln runs

1263
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: the football may way more than people give him credit for.

1264
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 1: He loves to run the football. He's pretty much Sean

1265
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: McVay you think of smart guy high energy, up tempo.

1266
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Sean McVay loves to run the football. Lincoln Riley loves

1267
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: to run the football, and he deserves a ton of credit.

1268
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: Jade and Mayava. I watched him at UNLV, I never

1269
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: even thought he was close to a pro player. Last

1270
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: year at USC, he didn't start the year starting. I

1271
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: thought he was sloppy and reckless. I didn't trust him.

1272
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: He has been coached way up. He'll get drafted probably

1273
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: second or third round, may maybe third round. He has

1274
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: been coached up dramatically. But I come down to this

1275
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: with USC, we're four years in. You can't just be

1276
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: good at home. You can't just be good when everything

1277
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: it's seventy two degrees. And I watched him in that

1278
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: first half get pushed around. They couldn't throw the ball.

1279
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are beyond clever offensively, and

1280
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: I just I feel like they're an uneven program.

1281
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1282
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: The recruiting class in twenty twenty six. Now it's high schoolers,

1283
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: so a lot of guys won't make impacts. But I

1284
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: think when I watch USC John, my takeaway is this

1285
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: roster is a wreck result of poor Southern California recruiting

1286
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: prior to next year's recruiting class. They just Lemon is

1287
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: a very good player. The other kid that jumps out

1288
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: is a Liah Page. They flipped him from Notre Dame.

1289
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: But they just don't have a lot of great Southern

1290
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: California LA kids on that roster. Held the walk on

1291
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: running back, Pops Kamari Ramsey, the safety, well he's from UCLA.

1292
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: They got him over. They just don't have a lot

1293
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: of great LA kids. And that was the pride and

1294
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: joy of Pete. They've done a much better job in

1295
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: the last twelve months in that regard, but they feel

1296
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: like they just don't have a ton of juice athletically.

1297
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: That's my take. Obviously, Ohio State's sacream of the crop,

1298
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: and I always get forwarded these games, these big games

1299
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: down in Southern California. It's like, well, this guy's going

1300
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: to Ohio State. This guy's also going to Ohio State.

1301
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you're ever gonna go from barely

1302
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: be able to beat Nebraska with their backup quarterback who

1303
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: felt a little overwhelmed, right, But once Dylan Ryola was

1304
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: out and I gave a kid a lot of credit,

1305
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: he looked like he wanted to come back, and he

1306
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: broke his leg or foot. So it's like he was

1307
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: clearly in a lot of pain. Tough kid, and it

1308
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: isn't the backup quarterback for Nebraska's from southern California. So

1309
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, if this guy looks good, this

1310
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: is this is gonna come on Lincoln. Now, luckily he

1311
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: looked a little overwhelmed. I thought, whoever, that was a

1312
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: massive game for whoever was going to win it, for

1313
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: either one of those guys, you know, Matt ruhlead, Okay,

1314
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: we keep you from going to Penn State. Here's thirty

1315
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: forty more million. Let's win a big game. And hey, Lincoln,

1316
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: we'll give you a little bit of a break not

1317
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: being able to beat Oregon Ohio State, but can you

1318
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: at least beat the Minnesota's in Nebraska's on the road.

1319
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: And it felt like I didn't have much faith for you, Colin.

1320
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: I thought, now, once he missed that field goal and

1321
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: they drove right down and they scored that touchdown and

1322
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: got that too, you could say, you know, Lincoln is

1323
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: not like mister emotional Kirby smart. He got so fired

1324
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: up night. I went, whoa, he knows this is this

1325
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: is getting everyone off his ass a little bit. He

1326
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: needs this game.

1327
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: No. I kept thinking during the game, man, that flight

1328
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: home is going to be dark. That is gonna be

1329
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: a thought.

1330
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: It's a big win too for your conference realignment. That

1331
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: game on TV's kind of poffs that that works. It's

1332
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: a good TV product. It was.

1333
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: No, it was really fun to watch. I mean I

1334
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: had two screened it. I was, you know, the Dodger game.

1335
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: Like I don't like like I do a lot of

1336
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: Twitter stuff during the day. At night, I don't do

1337
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: a lot. You know. I'll pour a cocktail, I watch

1338
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: a game, I put the phone away. I want to

1339
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: watch the game. But I thought there was a time

1340
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: there Saturday, early Saturday night, about eight o'clock. I thought, boy,

1341
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: this is going to be bleak. Jen Cohen is going

1342
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: to have to sit down with him the ad because

1343
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna get They're gonna get beated Oregon. They may

1344
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: win out beyond that, they'll be UCLA probably. But when

1345
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: I watch USC my take is four years in, I

1346
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: just don't see enough great elite LA kids.

1347
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I think Big Ten's probably disappointed they're not

1348
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: a little better because they're probably just going to get

1349
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Indiana, and Oregon into the dance. And if

1350
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: if USC had a little bar umph, you know they

1351
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 2: would be a four four bid league.

1352
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: All right. Last week I took a big favorite, Kansas

1353
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: City and covered for hard Rock bet on Monday Night football.

1354
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Cowboys at home to cover against Arizona.

1355
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is healthy. They're not starting him. They're going

1356
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: with Jacoby Brissett. Here's the thing about Dallas, and this

1357
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: has been true for years. Dak is really really good

1358
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: at home. His splits are dramatic, and I'll give credit

1359
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: to Brian Schottenheimer. They have huged George Pickens excellently. Because

1360
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: of Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, safeties can't cheat. The run

1361
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: game is substantial. I think Arizona is a franchise that's

1362
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: trying to find an identity. Cowboys have one, especially at home.

1363
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Dallas to win by about a

1364
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: touchdown and cover that spread.

1365
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the other side colin. Jacoby Brissett almost

1366
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: took down the Indianapolis Colts, so when he's played their offense,

1367
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: I think Kyler got bench for a reason. Jacoby might

1368
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: be better plus three against that defense. I don't mind

1369
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 2: taking the Cowboys to win, but I think the Cardinals

1370
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: cover

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: The volume.