1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Over the course of my late teens to late twenties, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: I was on every type of medication you can imagine. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: At the age of twenty nine, the third round of 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: acutane had flopped. My acne was coming right back within 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: a couple months, and I was like, I'll just need 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: to figure this out myself. 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: One last Google search a pub San Diego acne clinic No, 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: and so Danielle cleared my skin in two months. 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 3: Today I'm joined by Daniel Bronick, better known as the 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: Acne Guru, and Kaylee Christina, an integrative health practitioner and nutritionists. 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: They are the co founders of a Clear Stem, the 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: first skincare line and supplements that are both clinically effective 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: and completely free of poor clogging ingredients. Even if you 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: have slight issues with your skin affects your confidence so much. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: It's are truly our life mission to help people understand 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: acne and relieve the suffering. 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: This is kind of the playbook, that's the pharmaceutical playbook 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: in Western medicine. First, you try to take the batteries 19 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: out of the smoke alarms. 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 4: With the birth control pills, the. 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Birth control can mute the symptoms of the acne for 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: sure for as long as you're taking it, but the 23 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: moment you stop, you generally get a rebound effect. 24 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: What are your the top three worst poor clogging ingredient 25 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: that you find in a lot of skincare for. 26 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Now, if you're still using those in your skincare, it 27 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what type of acne you have, you will 28 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: still continue to break out. 29 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm Radi Wuka and on my podcast A Really Good Cry, 30 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space 31 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: to tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together. 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Thank you guy so much for being here again. And 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: I love your products close them. Your brand is beautiful. 35 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: It helps so many people. And I wanted to just 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: start off from the beginning and ask you guys, how 37 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: did Clearse theem come about? What was a purpose behind 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: it and why you created the products that you have. 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we started them out of a passion and a 40 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: need and out of deep alignment with the customers. So 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Kaylee and I both struggle with acne or a very 42 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: acne prone. A lot of people are acne prone. It's 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: on the rise and you know, everyone has a different 44 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: degree to which they're acneic, and it generally runs in 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: families to some degree. 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: I had great for cystic. 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Acne on both sides of my family well into adulthood, 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: so I really hit the lottery with my skin. And 49 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: in college is when it got really really bad. That's 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: when I started to wear makeup. I got a birth 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: control happened to be the wrong birth control from my skin, 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: so my acne just exploded. And ironically, I was studying biology, 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: genetics and imminology, fully intending to go to medical school, 54 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: and you know, I would show up to my appointments, 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: my doctor appointments about my skin with a list of 56 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: basic questions like what should I be eating, what should 57 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: I not be eating? When I have alcohol, I feel 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: like my acne gets worse. Why could that be? And 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: basically what I went through was just a series of 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: we can't answer that, there's no studies linked to that. 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: Here's more medication. 62 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: So over the course of my you know, late teens 63 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: to late twenties, I was on every type of medication 64 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you can imagine. I was on all the retinees, all 65 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: the different kinds. I was on antibiotics, the stronger antibiotics 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: sphirinal lactown, then more spherenal lactown accutane three separate times. 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: And in between all that was doing all the lasers 68 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: and trying everything, and it just wreaked havoc on my gut, 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: my body, and my skin. Frankly, and at the age 70 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: of twenty nine, the third round of accutane had flopped. 71 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: My acne was coming right back within a couple months, 72 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll just need to figure this 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: out myself. So I wound up going to esthetician school 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: at night. Actually, so I had not gone to medical 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: school because I was so disenchanted with my experience, you know, 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: getting my acne treated. I was like, I don't want 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: to be a part of that medical system where it's 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: just prescriptions. So I was in the corporate world and 79 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: decided to solve my skin myself because that was the 80 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: only route that was left. Wound up becoming an esthetician. 81 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,279 Speaker 1: I just went to esthetician school at night to get information. 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: And all of the biology that I had studied and 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the medical profession that I had always kind of dreamed of, 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: it all came full circle right then and I saw 85 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: that treating acne was my dream career that I never 86 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: knew existed. So I learned under a lot of the 87 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: people in San Diego, worked for a few medspas, worked 88 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: for a few veteran estheticians, learned a ton, and then 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I started San Diego acne clinic. That was about eleven 90 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: years ago, and I met Kaylee as one of my 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: first clinic patients. 92 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: Oh amazing. 93 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: And what was your story behind creating this? And I 94 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: feel like you both have individual kind of jennies that 95 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: brought you to this. 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Yes, So, my background and passion has always been nutrition, 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: even from such a young age. But when I was 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: blossoming into adulthood in my mid twenties, I made the 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: decision to get off of birth control. I was just 100 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: so passionate. I had a full time job that I 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: was working, but on the side, I was going through 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: different nutrition programs. I was just so excited to learn 103 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: more in the world, in the world of nutrition through education, 104 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: and so I decided to get off all prescription medication, 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: including birth control, and my skin just went crazy. 106 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 107 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Within a matter of two months, I had bright read 108 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: inflame cystic acne both sides, my cheek down my neck. 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: It looked like pustules. 110 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: It looked infected, like it wasn't even like parts of 111 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: it were normal acne, like there was some white heads 112 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 2: scattered in there, but it was that like really deep 113 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: painful cystic bumps everywhere. And on the nutrition side, I 114 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: started putting myself through so many different proto calls. I 115 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: wasn't able to run lab work at this point, yet 116 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: I eventually got there, but at this point I was 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: just putting myself through. 118 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 5: Dietary proto calls. 119 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: So everything from low FODMAP, cebo CANDID to diets like 120 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: you name it. I put myself through it, so many 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: elimination diets. Nothing seemed to shift or change. And then 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: when it came to skincare. 123 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: I knew nothing. 124 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: I only knew what marketing told me, like what I 125 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: would read and see, et cetera. And this was ten 126 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: years ago, so Instagram stories didn't exist, TikTok didn't exist. 127 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: The way you found information was googling, like that's just in. 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: It was a lot of just like medical links that 129 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: would pop up with no clear understanding. I actually could 130 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: not find any information on ACN. It was just the 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: only information I saw was remove sugars, remove some processed 132 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: foods like that was it like advice, no French fries 133 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: and chicken fingers, like that's what it said. And I 134 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: was like, okay, dub, but no real topical information. And 135 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: so I started to trying to figure out things myself. 136 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: So I tried everything from traditional drug store brands. I 137 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: was like, okay, I'll go so basic drug store. 138 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: Brands, No, didn't work. 139 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: I tried diy at home, like garlic and apple cider 140 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 2: vinegar and making all my own like tinctures and serum things. 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: I think that made it worse because I was doing 142 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: it really roguely, where I was just rubbing garlic on 143 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: my face, which burns your skin, Like that's way too 144 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: strong for your skin. And so I didn't understand about 145 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: the pH of skin and balancing and all of that 146 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: good stuff. And so then I tried a bunch of 147 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: different estetians and committed to their different lines. They put 148 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: me on you know, a three hundred dollars yearm that 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: promised it would clear my acne, you name it. Tried 150 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: all of these things. I'm working on this for almost 151 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: a year and nothing is shifting and changing, and honestly 152 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: just looks angrier at me. And when I truly felt 153 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: like I had exhausted everything, I didn't want to leave 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: my house. 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: I felt so depressed. 156 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm packing on makeup and I wasn't even like a 157 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: makeup girl, and I'm packing on this like thick clay makeup. 158 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm not hanging out with friends. I'm basically just hiding 159 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: away in my house. I looked in the mirror. My 160 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: face looked so disfigured. It was a really dark time. 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, I guess I need to go to 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: the doctor and the dermat hall just to figure this out. 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: So I went to multiple primary care doctors and multiple 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: dermatologists because I really wanted to get different answers. I 165 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: really just wanted to understand what was going on with 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: my body. I needed help, and from primary care physicians, 167 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: I kept just giving the answer birth control and antibiotics. 168 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: And when I would ask why, I would say, Okay, 169 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: I hear you. I get that that's your system. But 170 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: what's going on is that prescription is going to help it? 171 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: And I just kept receiving the answer, I don't know, 172 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: let's just test. 173 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: And it didn't sit right with me. 174 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: My blood work from the doctor kept coming back normal, 175 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: which is very standard for a lot of women, especially 176 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: in America. The ranges that we are getting are not 177 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: optimal ranges. They're based on the standard American which you 178 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: do not want to be compared against. If you're really yeah, 179 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: you don't want to be compared against. And so I 180 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: went to the dermatologist and my acting was so severe. 181 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: It was just straight to acutane, and it was against 182 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 2: everything I personally wanted to do. 183 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 5: But I felt like there was no other solution. So 184 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: I started the process to go and accutane. 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: It takes thirty days to go on because you have 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: to take two pregnancy tests thirty days apart and commit 187 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: to two forms of birth control before they'll let you 188 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: on it. And so I started the process and my 189 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: mom's like calling me. She's like, Haylee, please don't go 190 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: on acutane. And my mom's a chemist and she's just like, I, 191 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: you know you're not a teenager, like don't please, don't 192 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: go on. This is gonna be so destructive for your liver. 193 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: I was like, I. 194 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: Don't have any other choice, truly, is how I felt. 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: One last Google search a pop San Diego acne clinic, 196 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: No Danielle spent three hours with me. I was her 197 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: last client of the day. We went through every product 198 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: I was using, supplement I was taking, and for the 199 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: first time, Danielle had this information about acne that I 200 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: was not able to find anywhere else, not in any 201 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: of the nutrition programs I was in either, like no 202 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: one was talking about it. 203 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 5: In this way. 204 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: My whole world was opened up and I just felt 205 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: so much passion to my body. I was like, more 206 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: people need to know and understand this information. And so 207 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: Danielle cleared my skin in two months. 208 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 5: No way, fully clear. 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 210 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: And not everything that happened in that first session with 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Danielle and I, and you know, I would go into 212 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: her clinic because she had to do a lot of 213 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: extractions on me for a few months, like it took it, 214 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: like to get every thing out. We would lay, I 215 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: would lay on her clinic table and we would just 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: chat the whole time. And every single piece of that 217 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: we have rolled into clear Stem to make it scalable 218 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: so more people can have access to what are the 219 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: root causes of acne? What action steps can you take? 220 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: What are those sneaky little things that are hiding that 221 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: no one's talking about, and that's really what we've done, 222 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: and so it's our truly our life mission to help 223 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: help people understand acne and relieve the suffering. 224 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: I think you both so much for sharing that, because 225 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: it's so meaningful when you hear people's experiences and why 226 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: you know, this isn't just a random product that you've created. 227 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: This is something that you've experienced yourself. I've been through 228 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: the struggle, and you know, I think I can only 229 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: speak for myself as a woman. Even if you have 230 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: slight issues with your skin, it affects your confidence so much, 231 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: so much, and with all my friends, even if it's 232 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: just period related and you end up getting a spot 233 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: here and there, like, it really changes the way that 234 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: you see yourself. So for someone who's got acne, who's 235 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: living with day in day out, year in year out, 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: can only imagine how much in Knox your confidence. Like 237 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: you said, you didn't want to even leave the house. 238 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: Why do you think you know? The first thing you 239 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: spoke about was hormone control, that they put you on 240 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: the pill as soon as you end up getting some 241 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: sort of acne, especially as a teenager. Number one, why 242 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: is that the first first line protocol. And number two, 243 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: what was some of the from the research you've done 244 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: maybe what are some of the negative effects that you've 245 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: realized come from it? And number three why does it 246 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: not work for people? 247 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of the playbook, that's the pharmaceutical 248 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: playbook in Western medicine. First, you try to take the 249 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: batteries out of the smoke alarm essentially, is the analogy 250 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: that I use with the birth control pill. So, yes, 251 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: when you're a teenager, your hormones are surging, things are 252 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: going a little wild, specifically testosterone, especially with teenage boys. 253 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: But they have found that the pill can just sort 254 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: of take the batteries out of the smoke alarm essentially, 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: so you just kind of overregulate, hop into hyperdrive with 256 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: the hormones. And basically the pill that they generally prescribe 257 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: to young girls as the higher estrogen estradial pill, right, 258 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: so that will suppress the testosterone that is the main 259 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: driver of acne. So the hormones all have interplay. Each 260 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: one plays a specific role. How they relate to each 261 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: other is a very complex situation. But generally speaking, testosterone 262 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: and androgens, like the male hormones, those are the ones 263 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: that going to that are going to create the most 264 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: obvious hormonal acne spikes. So when you make estrogen the primary, 265 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, main character, it's going to suppress that androgen 266 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: testosterone behavior, and it can suppress the acne that's coming 267 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: from that. So that is what they do, because it's 268 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: generally the first and strongest thing that is, you know, 269 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: that they're able to do. Then they generally prescribe the 270 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: prescribe some antibiotics, especially if there's like pustules and like 271 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: other things like that. Everyone's been on antibiotics for their 272 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: acne as well, so those are kind of the first 273 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: few things the birth control can mimit. It can you know, 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, mute the symptoms of the acne for sure 275 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: for as long as you're taking it, but the moment 276 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: you stop, you generally get a rebound effect. And there's 277 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: other things that happen, especially in a woman's body in 278 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: terms of like gut health and how certain nutrients are 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: absorbed that are being impacted by the pill as well, 280 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: And that's the stuff that's not really talked about. 281 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: And so those are the side effects that we deal with. 282 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Once we get off the birth control, our acne has 283 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: rebounded the original things that we're causing it, especially if 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: it's from your diet, those things are still there. Those 285 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: never went away, so it can come back even more aggressive. 286 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, Kaylee can kind of talk more about what 287 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: else happens in the women's body when she's on birth 288 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: control for too long. 289 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, please is going on medication is a choice, right, 290 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: And I think what many times is removed from that 291 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: decision for certain people is they don't understand the choice 292 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: they're actually making. I don't think they're given an informed 293 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: decision making process. I think they go into the doctors 294 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, this pill will help solve this acne. 295 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: To people who have been struggling with acne for a 296 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: long time, that to them feels like the greatest gift. 297 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: They're like, just take the pain away, just take it away, 298 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: just make it go away. It could be any stage 299 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: in life, but especially there's women who are like planning 300 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: for a wedding or trying to d like things that 301 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: are affecting their confidence. Are like, just take it away. 302 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: But the information that's not given is how if you 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: do choose to be on the pill, how to support 304 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: your body in the process. They're like Danielle mentioned there's 305 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: a lot of really important nutrients in the body that 306 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: the pill suppresses, selenium B, twelve, vitamin D. It has 307 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: a serious effect on gut health and actually changes the 308 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: probiotic prebiotic balance that's going on in your gut. And 309 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: so we're told to take this pill, but given none 310 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: of the resources of how to properly support your body 311 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: if you choose to be on it, Because what happens 312 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: when you go off the pill and many women at 313 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: this point are on it for ten fifteen years. Yeah, 314 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: there's we have so many moms that come to us. 315 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: There's children who are we putting on who are being 316 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: put on the pill at age eleven and twelve for acne. 317 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: They're not even sexually active yet. And by the time 318 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: they get off, maybe they're thirty, I don't thirty five. 319 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: If they choose to not have kids until thirty thirty five, 320 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: until a slightly later age than early twenties, they could 321 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: truly be on birth control for twenty years. So for 322 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: twenty years, you're cutting off communication between your ovaries and 323 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: your brain. For twenty years, you're depleting these vitamins and nutrients. 324 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: You are causing disruption in your gut health. You are 325 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: muting androgen testosterone and you are raising estrogen, and then 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: we expect to just get off the pill and everything 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: is fine, and that is not the case. 328 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 5: There's also a way to safely get off the pill. 329 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: We're not educated about that, making sure our lymphatic system 330 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: is moving, making sure we're having bowel movements, making sure 331 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: we're sweating and properly detoxing to support our body. And 332 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: so we as women were having these rebound effects after 333 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: getting off the pill because we're not told how to 334 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: support our bodies during or transitioning off. So our body 335 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: after ten, fifteen, twenty years, there's a flush of testosterone 336 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: that comes back like a rubber band. 337 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: It is rebounding back. 338 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: Then our body doesn't want to put it right, like 339 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: we only have sony parking spots for all the hormones 340 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: and we have all this testosterone floating around and they're like, 341 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: where are the parking spots? 342 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: Like I don't where's the parking garage. 343 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 5: I don't know where to go, where to be, what 344 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 5: to do. 345 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: Our body doesn't know how to properly metabolize it. So 346 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: our bodies are just so so confused Yeah, So a 347 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: lot of times these women who get off the pill, 348 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: who are dealing with wild side effects after birth control, 349 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: it's our body just trying to recalibrate and figure out 350 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: what the heck is going on with this new body 351 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: I haven't had in twenty years. 352 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so bat really explained, Thank you. I'm 353 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: I guess my first question from what you said is 354 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: some of the things if someone is having this and 355 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: they are thinking of coming off the pill, or they've 356 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: just come off the pill, what are three things that 357 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: you recommend somebody does that can help them body adjusts 358 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: back to normality. 359 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I would say stress and detox are the first two. 360 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: So really taking a look at your stress levels, Are 361 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: you sleeping enough, are you drinking enough water? You know, 362 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: are you whether it's meditating or going on walks or whatever, 363 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: you need to just help make sure that when you're 364 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: transitioning off birth control it is a slightly calmer environment, 365 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: because if you are doing hit workouts every single day 366 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: and chugging like really crazy energy drink and not sleeping 367 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: and just drinking so much caffeine during the day, that 368 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: is not a safe environment. Your body does not feel 369 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: safe to get off birth control, so that can make 370 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: symptoms a lot worse. The second one, we really need 371 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: to make sure detox pathways are open. So I love 372 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: jumping in the morning. There's like the pogo jumps you 373 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: can do, or jumping jacks, or if you want to 374 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: be really fun with it, get a little rebound or 375 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: trampoline to jump on. But you can simply just jump 376 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: around your house in any way. I like to pump 377 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: what I call the big six, and it's like pumping 378 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: your lymph nodes under your jaw, around your clavicles, under 379 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: your armpits, your stomach you're growin, and behind your knees, 380 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: giving those a little pump every single morning. Drinking warm 381 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: water with lemon with some salt for thing in the morning. 382 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: Making sure that you have general movement throughout the day. 383 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Is that working out, is that walking whatever is right 384 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: for you, and making sure having regular bowel movements. Bowel 385 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: movements is probably number one as far as detox, because 386 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: when our body is trying to filter out all of 387 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: these excess hormones that don't belong in the body, that 388 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: are confused on where to go, that are left over 389 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: from the birth control, we need to get them out 390 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: through sweat and bowels. That is how they exit the system. 391 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: If those do not get a chance to exit the system, 392 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: that is going to cause additional hormonal overload and imbalance 393 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: that gets stuck in the body where some of those 394 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: really gnarly symptoms happen, whether it's hair loss, hair growth 395 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: in the areas you don't want it, acne, skin rashes, 396 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: feeling really really bloated and tired and exhausted all of 397 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: the time. A lot of those can come from just 398 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: really stuck toxins and additional hormones that don't belong in 399 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: the body anymore. 400 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: And I know you mentioned that when you got your 401 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: loves done, everything seemed like it was normal. Yeah, And 402 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: so you know, when you're a teenager, acne is sometimes expected. 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: You know, you think that you're going through a hormone 404 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: imbalanced But then there are people who are in the 405 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: thirties or late twenties that are getting these extreme breakouts. 406 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 3: Would you say that you know the hormone levels that 407 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: you had were getting hormones tested. 408 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: Yes, I was getting my hormones tested, but it was 409 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: not the proper blood work for hormones because I just 410 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: went through my primary care physician or. 411 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: Should someone ask for what kind of blood work should 412 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: they ask for? 413 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: So we love functional medicine practitioners and functional medicine doctors. 414 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 5: There's so many great resources. 415 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: There's individual practitioners, there's bigger companies that are also really 416 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: helpful for running functional blood work. But there's a big 417 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 2: difference between the blood work you run with your doctor 418 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: and functional blood work. If you find an individual practitioner, 419 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: you actually can get regular blood work run through your 420 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: doctor and have a functional practitioner. 421 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 5: Look at it. Though. 422 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: That is really helpful because what's most important is the 423 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: ranges you need to get done. 424 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 5: There's so much that we can see through blood work. 425 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: We just need to look at new ranges and play 426 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: detective on what's causing certain things. But then also true hormone, 427 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: gut and toxin level testing is done through stool and urine, 428 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: So those are our additional testing that different functional practitioners 429 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: can do where you can get a bit more of 430 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: a peak inside. 431 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: And you said your acne was on both sides of 432 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: your family, so it felt like it was quite genetic. 433 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: So would you say that that's even more difficult to 434 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 3: try and help cure as someone who's just got it 435 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: hormonally as a teenager, or I mean for you, you've 436 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 3: obviously figured out a way to do it for your 437 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: own body. But if anyone who's seeing it in their family, 438 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: are the different protocols that someone. 439 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: Should take, that's a really good question. 440 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: So there is generally a genetic component, it's just to 441 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: what degree. 442 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 4: So the genetic the primary. 443 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Genetic trait that can make someone like really breakout prone, 444 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: it's called retention hyper keratosis. Basically, you produce more keratin 445 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: protein than the people who like never wash their face 446 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: but never break out right, So there are some people 447 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: who just don't break out. That could be because they 448 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: don't have that like hyperkeratosis. Genetic predisposition, right, So the 449 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: people that do make that extra keratin protein, our pores 450 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: get clogged more easily, more naturally our own skin protein. 451 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: It can generally be a little bit stickier, it doesn't 452 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of shed and like get that cell turnover that 453 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: we ultimately want. So what we need is a little 454 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: bit more exfoliation. We need regular expoliation. It doesn't need 455 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: to be harsh. In fact, it shouldn't be overly harsh, 456 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: just needs to be a little bit consistent, kind of 457 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: like exercise. I always tell people to liken their expoliation 458 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: to their exercise. You want to do, you know a 459 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: little bit a few times a week, and maybe you 460 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: vary the intensity or the type. You know, you find 461 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: what works for you. Versus never exfoliating and then only 462 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: exfoliating once every two months when you get a facial 463 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: that would be like never working out and then running 464 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: a marathon on. So you want to make sure that 465 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: you're doing it consistently and the right type that is 466 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: supportive for your barrier, regardless of the source of your acne. 467 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: There are some things that you need in your routine 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: in order to stay clear. Number one is that proper 469 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: exfoliation generally a therapeutic blend of both physical and chemical expoliation. 470 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: That's the necessary like once you punch right. 471 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: So by physical expoliation, I mean like a gentle scrub, 472 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: something that's going to get rid of that dead layer 473 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: of skin. It's going to kind of clear the way 474 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: and give access to the poor and then then right 475 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: after that is when you do your chemical exfoliation, like 476 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: a mendelic acid serum. Most people are familiar with AHAs 477 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: and BHAs you know BHAs like your salasilic I think 478 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: we've all gone through the salicilic right, So that's your 479 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: Baha experience and very very useful. But then you get 480 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: to the world of AHAs. Those are your glycolics. You're lactic, 481 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you're a mandelic acid, and there's a few other ones too. 482 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: We have found that mandelic acid is like the Goldilocks 483 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: of acids for acne. It's also effective for brightening the skin, 484 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's effective for fungal acne. That's why it's the 485 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: best for people that are acne prone. You still get 486 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: that cell turnover that makes your collagen you know, be 487 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: happy and repair after the acne, and you get those 488 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: anti aging benefits of it as well. So that's kind 489 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: of the crux of like the clear stem like system 490 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: is getting those like, you know, the proper exfoliation that 491 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: also helps you age well. But then the other thing, 492 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: no matter what source of acne you have, you want 493 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: to make sure you're not using porklogging ingredients, yes, because 494 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: you will just continue to break out. You can have 495 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: perfect hormones, perfection in your diet. You can have your 496 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: water blessed bia sham, it doesn't matter if you're using 497 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: pork clogging ingredy in your skincare, most notably your moisturizer, 498 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: your sunscreen, and your makeup. Those are the three things 499 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: that break people out the most. Yeah, and even if 500 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: they're organic, right, and we can talk more about this, 501 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: but if you're still using those in your skincare, it 502 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what type of acne you have, you will 503 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: still continue to break out. 504 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: What are your the top three worst poor clogging ingredients 505 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: that you find in a lot of skincare. 506 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: I'll break it down into the different categories because people 507 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: often interpret clean beauty as meaning acne safe, and it 508 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: is not clean beauty still breaks people out. The top 509 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: three poor cloggers in clean beauty are going to be 510 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: coconut oil, coconut alkanes, and then shay butter. 511 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you always think, I mean I grew up 512 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: even like through my teens, I would think, oh, the 513 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: thicker the moisturizer, like whir it was the better? So 514 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 3: of be like putting on sheer butter or cocon oil, 515 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: and you think that that's just going to deeply moisturize 516 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: your skin. 517 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: For some people that works for them if they're not 518 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: acne proba right. 519 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we we like to tell people if you're 520 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: doing something and your skin is flawless, keep doing it right, right, 521 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: But if you have acne and you're struggling, listen, not 522 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: let's say something. 523 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 524 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 525 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: And then there's the other, uh, there's the other you know, 526 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of other poor clogging ingredients that brands us, usually 527 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: by accident because their chemists just aren't aware of the 528 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: commutogenesy factor of them. But it'll be things like isopropyle 529 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: mirror state ethyl hexel palmitate setire with. 530 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: Twenty if I recognize that one. 531 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: It's even in cetophil moisturizer. 532 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: So it's in things that are you know, even touted 533 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: as acne safe, but they can range from mildly committogenic 534 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: to extremely commutogenic. So yeah, there's there's about a hundred. 535 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: There's hundreds of these ingredients. There's like a hundred that 536 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: I have kind of memorized over the years and doing this, 537 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: but we don't want everyone to have to memorize them, 538 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: so we created a checker where you can just copy 539 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: and paste the ingredient deck of whatever product you want 540 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: to use, put it in the checker. It'll tell you 541 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: and red if there's something that's likely to break you out. 542 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: It's on your website. I think I saw that. Yeah, 543 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: that's so useful. 544 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: It's a mandatory tool before you try anything else. And 545 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: even if you've been using something for a long time, 546 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it can't be this. I've been using 547 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: it forever. Companies reformulate. We've got to check. I can't 548 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: stress it enough. Never make assumptions. Always check the ingredients. 549 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: And the acid that you mentioned is that in one 550 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: of your exfoliations, in this one. 551 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: Right here, amazing, which is a game changer. I took 552 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: a break from it last week just because I forgot 553 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: to take it with me when I was traveling last week, 554 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: which I was so bummed, and I used it last night. 555 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh. Sometimes I forget how much 556 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: it brightens your skin, like how everything is sort of clearer. 557 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Everything just looks clearer and brighter, and it just it 558 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: gets in there and it dissolves whatever is in your 559 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: poor So even people who aren't struggling with acne see 560 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: such a difference. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna yeah, just 561 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: seemed like your skin's luminosity. It's like to call it 562 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: your skin's own autofluorescence. 563 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 5: It's just that glow. 564 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: Right, you may not even struggling with acne, but it's 565 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: just that glow that you have to your skin when 566 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 2: your pores are clean and clear because you've put out 567 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: used in mendelic acids here and that gets in there 568 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: and dissolves, you are just able to shine through. 569 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: It's amazing. 570 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to use it. Denial you guys pictures please. 571 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, yes, tomorrow morning send us pictures 572 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: of like your skin and you first wake up. 573 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. 574 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: After you definitely, I'm definitely going to do that. You 575 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: were mentioning about lots of diets that you tried, like 576 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 3: trying to take things out elimination diet. What are some 577 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: of the I know your nutrition is the most and 578 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: what are some of the foods that you think people 579 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: should start off eliminating all there's some general foods that 580 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: you recommend people just take out of their diet if 581 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: they are struggling with acne. 582 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: Yes, and this doesn't need to be overwhelming, because there's 583 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: some elimination diets out there which I get you can 584 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: be so overwhelming it feels like you can't eat anything. 585 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: The acne elimination protocol is it's actually fairly simple. Yes, 586 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: it's in a lot of things, but there's really easy alternatives. 587 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: So the first one which surprises most people is eggs. 588 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: When we are not saying that eggs are bad. There's 589 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: some people that just love it for their nutrient dense 590 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: the nutrient density of eggs, and people swear by them. 591 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: But eggs are on the top allergen list. They can 592 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: cause an effect on our immune system and they have 593 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: something in it. It's specifically in the egg whites called 594 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: albumin protein, which can just be very challenging for our 595 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: body to break down and absorb. So it gets a 596 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: little stuck and our bodies have a little bit of 597 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: a reaction to it. 598 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: So for people who are. 599 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: Either acne prone or they're acne prone for a certain 600 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: period of time. Right, not everyone is genetically acne prone, 601 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: but there's people who are acne prone getting on or 602 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: opha medication before or after pregnancy, or a big hormonal 603 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: change perimenopause, menopause, teenager, etc. Those big hormonal changes in life. 604 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: Our bodies can be a lot more sensitive during this time. 605 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: So it's not that you have to eliminate them forever, 606 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: but where you'll see the breakouts is around your jawline, 607 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: and underneath your jaw is where you'll mostly see the 608 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: breakouts from eggs. 609 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 5: Okay, So that's a big one. 610 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: I always recommend a sixty day elimination trial, giving yourself 611 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: a really great challenge for eggs. If anyone struggling in 612 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: the morning, we love replacing with a coconut yogurt and 613 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: a plant based protein powder and chia seeds and pumpkin 614 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: seeds to get that to get more of that B 615 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: twelve and vitamin D like from the from the nuts 616 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: and seeds in there, or you can make it really 617 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: great smoothie like. There's a lot of other options to 618 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: replace it with. So eggs is a big one. The 619 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: second one is dairy. Yeah, dairy can be very acne 620 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: triggering for people, and we know dairy as milk and cheese, 621 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: But where it can be sneaky and hidden is in 622 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: way protein. So some people are just purchasing a protein 623 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: that was recommended to them, or they go to their 624 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: local like smoothie shop or get a shake after a workout, 625 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: and they don't ask what kind of protein. It is 626 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: way can be a very aggressive acne trigger, and you'll 627 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: see some men that actually break out on their backs 628 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: because of it. Men and women, but a lot of 629 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: men that are just like heavy lifters. Yeah, the ware, 630 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: they're drinking a lot more of it, right, They're drinking 631 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: so much more of it. So dairy is up there, 632 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: and then sugar of course, because we're impacting our insulin levels. 633 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: But another one that's interesting for people. This doesn't cause 634 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: acne for everyone, but gluten is a really big one 635 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: to consider. So for some people can cause sinus issues, 636 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: joint pains, inflammation, floating, but for some people it really 637 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: triggers acne. So again, giving yourself that sixty day elimination 638 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: and then slowly if you choose to integrate anything back in, 639 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: slowly integrate it back in and just see how your 640 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: body responds. Because it could be a quantity issue, quality 641 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: and quantity, right, both there's quality of eggs, quality of dairy, 642 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: but also the quantity like could you maybe have eggs 643 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 2: two days a week when you introduce them back in, 644 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: But then that's your threshold, right, Maybe it's just not 645 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: in every single day thing. So that's a big one. 646 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: The second one is supplements. Okay, yes, this was a 647 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: major trigger for me. It was ten years ago. It 648 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: was the height of biohacking. I was taking so many sublimits. 649 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: I feel like we're kind of back in it, Honestly. 650 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: I think we took a break and we're back on 651 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: a really big supplement craze and so B twelve, vitamin 652 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: D and zinc. 653 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 5: We love those for our body. 654 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: Our body needs those nutrients, but in excess amounts, they 655 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: can actually cause hormonal imbalances. Yeah, and they're in so 656 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: many things now right Again, great things to have. And 657 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: I know you're a vegan as well, and so we 658 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: have a lot of our community that's also vegans, and 659 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: so they're typically taking a a B twelve supplement and 660 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: it is a very high dose of B twelve and 661 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: it's acting on their testosterone levels and can actually be 662 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: triggering acne. So our first thing we always recommend is 663 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: work to get it from food sources. There's a lot 664 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: of amazing food sources for B twelve, nuts, seeds, et cetera. 665 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: But then if you are externally supplementing with a physical supplement, 666 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: we always recommend a dropper so you can control your 667 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: dose of it and just make sure that you're not 668 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: having forty thousand times the amount that you're supposed to 669 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: have to in a day, which which does exist in supplements. 670 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: So those are the really big ones to look out for. 671 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 3: You're saying B twelve. It made me laugh in my head, 672 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: but it's actually not that funny. I I it's a 673 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: lot of nutritional yeast. Yes, And oh my gosh, I 674 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: got my results back recently, and the one thing that 675 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: was completely off the charts was my B twelve. It 676 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: was beyond any limit that I've ever so I was 677 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: having nutritional yeas and everything and that's got B twelve 678 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: in it or sometimes added into the nutritional yeast, and 679 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: then I'm obviously adding in for like a cheesy flavor. 680 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: It makes everything tastes so good. But my B twelve 681 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: was crazy, and I was like, wow, this is something 682 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: that vegans usually really struggle with, even hitting the lower amounts, 683 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: and there I am off the charts with it because 684 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: of nutritional use. So I need to read without for that. Actually. 685 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so yeah, nutritional yeast is such a good 686 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: one for B twelve, but specifically for vegans. If someone 687 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: is overdoing it, it could be triggering acne. So just 688 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: making sure that you are viewing that as like one 689 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: amazing cheesy flavor like I love like a mac and 690 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: cheese with the nutritional yeas like since I'm not since 691 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't do dairy, so so great, but then managing 692 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: like how often during the day, how many times a week, 693 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: just to make sure people aren't overdoing it and breakout. 694 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was definitely shocked when I saw that. I 695 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: was like, damn, I'm a vegan, but this is pretty 696 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: good for me. 697 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 5: It's pretty good. 698 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: A lot of impressed symptoms though, because of the not. 699 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: That I know, Like I had gone through a phase 700 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: where I was getting a load of these were like 701 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: under my skin spots, you know, the ones that you 702 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: can't pop but they just like sit there. Yes, So 703 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: I don't know whether that was linked to it, because 704 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: then obviously once I became conscious about it, I cut 705 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: down the amount of nutational yeast. But yeah, I don't know. 706 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: I need to track whether it correlates to anything else. 707 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: The cool thing about some of these vitamin triggers is 708 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: that it'll happen pretty quickly, right. The worst thing is 709 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: when you have a delayed reaction, because there could have 710 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: been a lot of variables between you know, when you 711 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: ate the thing and why you're. 712 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: Seeing it in your skin. 713 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: But when you overdo Beach twelve, especially like with beach 714 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: twelve shots, yeah, or really potent liquid supplement that'll have 715 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: like you know, eighty thousand percent RDV, you'll see it 716 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: within like forty eight hours, You'll start getting like hormonal 717 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: acne and it gets you right on the jaw. And 718 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: that's why so many women think that their acne is 719 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: hormonal is because in the quote hormonal zone. But most 720 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: things actually create acne in that zone because that's where 721 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: the deeper hair follicles are and that's where acne starts. 722 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: Are there any other things that you you find, are 723 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: these hidden reasons for why people get acne, anything that 724 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 3: people probably wouldn't expect, but actually are causes that you've seen. 725 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Let's see here, not rinsing their face off right after 726 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: they exercise. 727 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 5: That got me a huge one. 728 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 4: Yep, it gets everyone at some point. 729 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: That got me. I was working out and sweat, like 730 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: I had started doing really intense workouts or I was 731 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: sweating a lot, and then sometimes I'd go shop after 732 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: or go do something after, and I wouldn't actually wash 733 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: my face straight away, and I started getting all of 734 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: these micro micro like it felt like a rush, but 735 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: it wasn't. But these all these little tiny spots that 736 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: were kind of sitting on my forehead, on the side 737 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 3: of my cheek, and I could not figure out no 738 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: matter how much I exfoliated afterwards, no matter how And 739 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: this went on for a long period of time, and 740 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: then I realized I started getting it all over my skin. 741 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: I started getting on my arms, and I was like, oh, 742 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 3: it must be the sweat. 743 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: That's the sweat literally goes right back into your post. 744 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: So the good news is it's a really simple salt. 745 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: All you have to do is stick your face. 746 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: In the water fountain or it just like splash on. 747 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: It's just removing the sweat in that moment and then 748 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: you can go about your day. Yeah, you don't need 749 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: to bring your whole like you know, skincare routine to 750 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: the yoga studio or anything like that. Simply splashing it 751 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: off is a fantastic and effective solution. We also have 752 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: for the people that run hot, like I run really hot, 753 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: I sweat a lot, and you're not going to like 754 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: splash your face off like thirty times a day, right, 755 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: But we made something called skin Spray all day and 756 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: it's meant to kind of be that refresher for our athletes, 757 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: for the you know, personal trainers, the yoga girl, the 758 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: people that are kind of active throughout their day and 759 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: breaking a bit of a sweat throughout the day. There's 760 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: that way to kind of replenish, replenish the skin and 761 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: just kind of like hit like an antibacterial reset so 762 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: that your sweat doesn't go back into your pores and 763 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: create those annoying bumps. 764 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 4: Because everybody gets that. 765 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been the definitely. 766 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 5: So great for moms running around. 767 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: Hitting their two year old everywhere, running around not being 768 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: able to have that free time to even stop. 769 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 5: Skin spray is a lifesaver. 770 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 3: Okay, nov I'm going to keep it in my call 771 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: from now on. Give myself a spider during the day. 772 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: You touched on something else though, you set the back 773 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: of your neck, right, and you have curly hair, Yeah, 774 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: hair products, especially for curly hair, contain poor clogging ingredients. 775 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: And I'm specifically talking about the conditioners and the leven 776 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: hydrating products. 777 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: Yes I use them they of. 778 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: Course right, And those conditioners contain poor clogging ingredients. Shampoos 779 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: not as much, but conditioners like ninety eight percent of 780 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: the time from what I have reviewed. 781 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: Its Yeah, and it's so interesting that you think of, Okay, 782 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: when it's skincare, I'm just gonna when it's my skin issues, 783 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm just going to focus on what I put on 784 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: my skin, and then you forget to think about everything 785 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: else that, whether it's perfumes or whether it's things that 786 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 3: you have around in your environment. Even sometimes candles and 787 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: things that I extend or can end up affecting so 788 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: much of your body. 789 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: Yep. I've been hearing a ton of people recently that 790 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: certain nail polishes are causing like rashes around their eyes. 791 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: Really good. 792 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very. 793 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 4: It's you know how people touching their eyes are. 794 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: No, there's some time a. 795 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: Goal that's maybe even when they get the nails done. 796 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: I find that when I go to nail salons, actually, yeah, 797 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,959 Speaker 3: my skin ends up being itchy or end up getting 798 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: reading that headache from the fumes. 799 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean hearing it from a lot of friends 800 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: recently that they switched out their polish and the rashes 801 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: went away. Yeah, So there's like there's all these little things, right, 802 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: that we just have to remember everything that we're putting 803 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: on and in our body, not just skincare, can affect 804 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: our skin in different ways, and it's it's not to 805 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: make people spiral and be afraid of things. What I 806 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: find is it's actually more empowering. It's just it's the 807 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: power of choice for certain things, and it just brings awareness, awareness, 808 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: and intunement to your body. Like you just become more 809 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: in tune of like what works me, what doesn't work 810 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: for me? You have your things, you figure it out, 811 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: and it can be frustrating and overwhelming, and the figuring 812 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: out process, it absolutely can be. But when you get 813 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: to the other side, you were just so much more 814 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: self aware and in tune with your own body and 815 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: your own reactions, and you actually start you actually stopping 816 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: yourself to other people and you just start comparing yourself 817 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: to yourself of like, oh no, this might work for 818 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: a lot of other people, but it just does not 819 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: work for me, and that's okay, And that's also really empowering. 820 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 5: At the same time, to just know your body so. 821 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: Well definitely helps you to tune in so much. Yeah, 822 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: we spoke about what you eliminated or the things to eliminate. 823 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 3: What about things that people should incorporate to help with 824 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: the acne in terms of diet and what they should 825 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 3: be eating. 826 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: What transforms for a lot of women is actually eating 827 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: in the morning. Oh yeah, intermittent fasting can be a 828 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: really great tool, But for women, I truly see it 829 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 2: as a tool and more of a proto call, and 830 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: to me, a proto call. You're doing every once in 831 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: a while, right, or you're doing it for a week 832 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 2: at a time. 833 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 5: But as women, our hormones are a. 834 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: Lot more delicate, and so there's certain times of the month, 835 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: especially around your menstrual cycle, where intermittent fasting can actually 836 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: put your body into so much more stress. 837 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: And we know that. 838 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: Stress is directly correlated to acne. That's a whole nother 839 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: component to it is just stress levels, emotional capacities sometimes 840 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: like sometimes you're going through a really big stressor in 841 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 2: the family and that's your acting trigger. And so for women, 842 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: we are not meant to intermit and fast every day 843 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: all of the time, and so it's really really healthy 844 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 2: for our hormones to be eating first thing in the morning, 845 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: especially if we can eat before that caffeine. Truly, I 846 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: see so many women's hormones and stress levels shift when 847 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: they can eat first thing in the morning. 848 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 3: Wow, And is there anything specific like him protein or 849 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: high healthy fats. 850 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say kind of trying 851 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 2: to get a little bit of everything in so protein, fats, 852 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: and a little bit of carbs. As women, we do 853 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 2: need carbs, getting that nice, nice healthy mixture. So is 854 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: it that coconut yogurt with protein powder and chia seeds 855 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: on top? Do you go more savory where you're sautaing 856 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 2: up some veggies in the morning and then your choice 857 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: of protein, whether that's tofu, chicken, sausage, leftovers from the 858 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: night before that you're just reheating in a skillet. Is 859 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: it a smoothie that you're getting just the combination where 860 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: you're getting maybe some spinach and greens in protein powder 861 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: fruit that kind of hits all your categories of protein, 862 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: fat and fiber in there. Another one is hydrating before caffeine. 863 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 2: Warm water is best. I mean, you know iraveta best, 864 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 2: So you know that cold water can typically shut down 865 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 2: people's digestive system and kind of close the body off 866 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: a bit more so, starting your morning with warm water, 867 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: lemon salt just being delicate and allowing your body to 868 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: wake up, allowing your body to get in flow for 869 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: the day. But having that hydrating drink first thing in 870 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: the morning, getting that food in with a healthy combination 871 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: of protein, fat, fiber is just going to put you 872 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: off to an amazing star It is going to put 873 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: your body and mind in a position to make better 874 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: choices throughout the day too. You won't be reaching for 875 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: the junk food which we do crave when when that 876 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: is like sometimes I am so hungry, I'm coming home 877 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: from work, I'm starting to make dinner and I'm inhaling chips. 878 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: Yes like that, Yeah, yeah, that happens. And so when 879 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: you can just make sure that you're eating throughout the 880 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: day and not getting to the point of starvation where 881 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: you do just inhale a bag of chips or whatever 882 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 2: your go to sources for that minus savory some people 883 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: as sweets, and so just making sure that your body 884 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: is say sheeted throughout the day. It's going to keep 885 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 2: your energy levels happy, your hormones happy, your stress levels happy, 886 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: and it's going to help reduce some of those cravings 887 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: that could lead to inhaling some acne triggers in there. 888 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: For someone who is going through it right now and 889 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: the spending so much money on products. They are trying 890 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 3: everything under the sun, but it's just not working. What's 891 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 3: the one thing that you would recommend they start with. 892 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: Definitely checking and removing poor clogging ingredients. Okay, this is 893 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: the thing that affects I want to say like the 894 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: eighty twenty ar Old for sure, but I think it 895 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: affects everyone in some way to some degree. So no 896 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 1: matter what your source of acne is or what's going 897 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: on in your life, poor clogging ingredients will keep you 898 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: broken out. So these things mix with your natural oil, 899 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: your skin protein, they create a plug and then your 900 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: skin just keys kind of growing, you know, on top 901 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: of it and around it, and that's when your body 902 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: recognizes an invader and that's where you get like bacteria 903 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: get trapped in there too. So poor clogging ingredients are 904 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: the thing that is ruining most people's skin, and it 905 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: also causes accelerated aging and other things besides acne that 906 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: we don't want. So the first step is to pull 907 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: up you know, it's easier done on a laptop, but 908 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: literally everything that you're using, everything that's touching your skin 909 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: and your hair, get the ingredients from their website, copy paste, 910 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: put it into the checker, see which ones pop up 911 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: and red. Then you find the solution the replacement for 912 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: those you might find that it's your moisturizer. Most moisturizers 913 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: do break people out. Everyone who has had acne their 914 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: whole life is like terrified to moisturize, and they're not wrong. 915 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: Most moisturizers do break people out, but it is still 916 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: important to moisturize. So basically, if you find that your 917 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: moisturizer has poor cloggers, get rid of it, or you 918 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: can use it like on your legs. You can have 919 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: like the sexiest softest knees for your face and anywhere 920 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: you break out, make sure that they're completely noncomutogenic, no 921 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: poor cloggers. That will make a massive difference, and I 922 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: mean massive. The other thing that you can start doing 923 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: is dialing in your exfoliation. Most women who break out, 924 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: they're exfoliating a little bit, but it might not be 925 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: the right type for their skin, or they're relying on 926 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: retine or tretinoin. A lot of estheticians really don't recommend 927 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: tretonoen for active acne or inflamed acne. It can create 928 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: more irritation and purging, and then you're just stuck in 929 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: this constant cycle. 930 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 4: We prefer mandelic acid. 931 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: It works more quickly, more effectively, and it plays nice 932 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: with other things, and it actually dissolves the stuff that's. 933 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 4: In the poor that's breaking you out. 934 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: So getting rid of poor cloggers and incorporating a mandelic 935 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: acid call it every other night, make a huge difference. 936 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: Like you can have new like new skin where like 937 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: everyone's being like, wow, your skin looks amazing, like inside 938 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: of a week if you make just those changes. 939 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: Woh, such simple changes but can make such a difference. 940 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 2: You know. 941 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 3: Nowadays, I feel like skincare routines are literally like twelve 942 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: steps long. If with your skin care run, what are 943 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 3: some of the basic steps that someone needs to take? 944 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: Like what are things that people are adding in right 945 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 3: now that are just unnecessary? How many steps should a 946 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 3: routine really be? 947 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: I think it's unnecessary to have a bunch of steps 948 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 1: to remove your makeup right A lot of cleansers are 949 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: they're kind of underwhelming. Yeah, And if a cleanser's not 950 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: getting your makeup off. 951 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:37,959 Speaker 3: What is it doing? 952 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 4: It's like, what is it doing? 953 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: And a lot of the really common cleansers that people 954 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: are using. I'm not going to say any names right now, 955 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of cleansers out there that just 956 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: don't do the job. Like if you're you know, doing 957 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: a toner step afterwards and you still have a ton 958 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: of foundation on after your cleanse, that cleanser is not 959 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: going to get rid of it. You can use it 960 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: as a body wash, but so a lot of women 961 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: are doing to multiple cleansing steps and then makeup removing 962 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: wipes and then some other type of like cleanse to 963 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 1: get their eye makeup off. So it's like a bunch 964 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: of different cleansing steps and it creates a lot of 965 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: friction on the skin, especially around the delicate eye area. 966 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: You never want to be tugging the eye skin just 967 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: to get your makeup off. So I think that's the 968 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: number one area where I'm constantly troubleshooting for people because 969 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: then their eyes are just irritated and things are burning 970 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: them and it just creates this cascade effect. 971 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good one. I was going to ask 972 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: you about oils actually, because there are so many times 973 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 3: where I mean I went through a phase where I 974 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: was using a lot of natural oils on my skin? 975 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 3: Is that something if someone's got acne that they should 976 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 3: avoid completely love this question. 977 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: So we use the commutogenic scale when we're judging ingredients, right. 978 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 1: Commutogenic means how likely it is to clog your poor 979 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: and create a comodont okay. 980 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 4: So the scale is zero to five. 981 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: Zero is completely say think watery, I'm not going to 982 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: clog your poor. 983 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: It cannot do that. Hyaluronic acid is another one. 984 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: That's then there's things that are a five like they 985 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: will start clogging you know. 986 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 4: That's like your coconut oil. 987 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: Like things that are like waxy at room temperature, things 988 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: like palm oil, things like that, right, And then that 989 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: most things are somewhere in the middle. 990 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 4: For example, olive oil is regarded as a two oho 991 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 4: okay out of five. 992 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: Right, So if you don't have acne at all, you 993 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: might be able to use olive oil as a moisturizer 994 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: and it could be great for you. So it really 995 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: depends on how acne prone you are and where those 996 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: oils sit on the committogenic scale. Most essential oils like 997 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 1: the ones like say bergamont or like lavender like things 998 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: that are more known for medicinal or you know, aroma qualities. 999 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 4: Most of those are going. 1000 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: To be completely noncommutogenic. However, they can be a little 1001 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: bit caustic or irritating, so you want to dilute them, 1002 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: dilute them a lot into and into what's called a 1003 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: carrier oil. So most essential oils are not going to 1004 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: break you out. They could just be irritants. It's a 1005 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: different conbo. But as far as the other oils that 1006 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: you just want to use for general moisture, there are 1007 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: a few that are completely acne safe. Hemp oil which 1008 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: is my personal favorite. Yeah, hempseed oil is fantastic. You 1009 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: can get it cold pressed. It smells like kind of 1010 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: like light, nutty delicious, So that one's fantastic. Argone oil 1011 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: is another one that's very safe for people. Castor oil, 1012 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: believe it or not, even though it's very thick, it's 1013 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: known to be a zero on the. 1014 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and do they hydrate? 1015 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 2: They do. 1016 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: Some oils are a lot thinner and more they can 1017 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit more hydrating then the thicker oils. 1018 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't use castor oil as my moisturizer. Like, yes, 1019 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: it's going to hydrate, but it's going to be more 1020 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: of a slugging effect. I aren't necessarily going to deliver 1021 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: that juicy hydration that you ultimately want. And then there's 1022 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: other oils that are a little bit thinner, like rose 1023 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: hips oil. Rose Hip is hydrating, So there's just a 1024 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: few out there. Another couple of ones that you'll see 1025 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: in cosmetics that are acne safe are sunflower oil safflower oil. 1026 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: So those happen to have a commutogenic grating of zero 1027 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: to know. 1028 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 3: Actually, I always thought that maybe oils ended up just 1029 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: being plugging because it was, but now you know there's 1030 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 3: a good range of it. 1031 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: I think when folks are trying to give someone acne 1032 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: advice and they don't know the details, they'll just say 1033 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: be safe, stay away from oils. 1034 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 4: It is kind of an old way of thinking. 1035 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: I think that that was kind of the I want 1036 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: to call it propaganda, but that was like kind of 1037 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: like what like you know, back in the nutrigena era, 1038 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: like that's what people used to say. And again, this 1039 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: stuff isn't studied in medical school. So I think a 1040 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: lot of derms will just add of caution for their patients, 1041 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: say avoid oils, because they know a lot of them 1042 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: can read cavoc. So I think it just became a 1043 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: blanket statement. 1044 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 4: To just avoid oils. 1045 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: The oil free became a marketing designation, but I've seen 1046 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: stuff that's marketed as oil free aimed at the ACTI consumer, 1047 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: but the primary filler is isopropyle miror state, which is. 1048 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 4: Far worse than most oil. 1049 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 1: Well, that's where people get tripped up, and that's why 1050 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: we're so focused on teaching about poor clogging ingredients. 1051 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 3: One of my favorite products of yours is the black 1052 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 3: human seed oil. Yes, yes, is it cool? Good sea? Yes? One. 1053 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 3: I love it because I have such a deep purpose 1054 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 3: of sharing how spices can help heal your body so much. Yep, 1055 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 3: they can help protect heel support in so many ways. 1056 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 3: So when I saw that, I started taking it and 1057 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. Could you share why black cuman 1058 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 3: seed oil is so incredible for the skin. 1059 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: It's incredible for a lot of systems in the body. 1060 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: So one thing about clear Sum is we have a 1061 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: blood work wing of the business. It's called our Acne 1062 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: lab panel, and we have blood chemists that are specifically 1063 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: trained to look at things through the acne lens. And 1064 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: after thousands of people were getting their blood work done, 1065 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: with us. We kept seeing the same things emerge, a 1066 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: lot of gut dyspiosis, you know, unwanted pathogens and just 1067 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of like immune burden. And Black Human seed oil 1068 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: is really really known and you know, time tested for 1069 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: helping ward off unwanted pathogens. It's not a wide scale 1070 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: antibiotic or anything like that, but it just helps give 1071 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: you that extra boost, so it helps with the gut 1072 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: and that helps with the skin. And then also it's 1073 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: in good seeds is a little bit of seed oil, 1074 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: which is fabulous. Anyone that's done skin seed cycling for 1075 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: their hormones is kind of like, you know, in love 1076 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: with pumpkin seed oil. It has that natural amount of 1077 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: zinc that we really really want, but again it's not 1078 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: too too much, so it's perfect. And then the Seabucks 1079 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: thorn seed oil the Omega seven, so that combination with 1080 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: the Black Human is like a trifecta for helping multiple 1081 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 1: areas of the body that impact your skin. 1082 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 3: I loved to actually started taking it after I got 1083 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 3: food poisoning for like a short period of time, and 1084 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 3: I could feel that my gut was just not happy, 1085 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 3: and I could see that my skin wasn't happy. Every 1086 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 3: time my gut's messed up, I know it's on my 1087 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 3: skin straight away, And so when I started taking that, 1088 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: I honestly felt like I felt a difference within a 1089 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: couple of weeks, like it was so great. That makes it. 1090 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 1: Also helps with blood sugar, yes, which helps everybody exactly. 1091 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: Everyone needs help with blood sugar. 1092 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 2: And one of my additionally one of my favorite aspects 1093 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 2: of it is how it supports underlying infection. So one 1094 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: of the what I think craziest things we've been seeing 1095 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: in the acne lab panel is so many people have 1096 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: very essentially like micro amounts of underlying infections. It can 1097 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 2: be strap, it can be staff, and it's not showing 1098 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 2: up anywhere else in the body except for acne. Some 1099 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 2: people can receive it differently, right. It can show up 1100 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: as a rash, it can it can actually show up 1101 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 2: underlying strap, can show up as back pain somewhere. It's 1102 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: pretty wild how underlying infections can show up in the body. 1103 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 2: But since we are focused on acne and people are 1104 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: coming to us with acne, we are seeing so many 1105 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 2: cases that have these underlying infections, and black human seed 1106 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: oil can be so helpful. 1107 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 5: For mitigating underlying infections. 1108 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: It was helping so many people after they were doing 1109 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: the lad panels. So we just we're like, more people 1110 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: need this amazing. Oh my gosh, thank you guys so much. 1111 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 3: Is there anything else that you'd love to share for 1112 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 3: anybody that would be struggling right now, have been in 1113 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 3: a place that you've been, any words of encouragement or 1114 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 3: love sending out to them. 1115 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: Truly sending so much love. We have a really great 1116 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 2: checklist and I'll make sure or that we repost it 1117 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: around the time of this podcast too. I also believe 1118 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 2: it's in one of our blogs on our website. If not, 1119 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: I'll double check to make to make sure it is. 1120 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 2: But we have this checklist that makes it really easy, 1121 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: and it's everything we talked about on this podcast because 1122 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people will maybe be taking notes during 1123 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: this podcast and trying to figure out like, okay. 1124 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 5: This, make sure I eliminate this, should I do that? 1125 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: And so we have this amazing checklist you can just 1126 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 2: save to your phone that has the categories of food supplement, 1127 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: stress triggers, and then of course we have our poor 1128 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: clogging checklist. If you don't use a laptop, we have 1129 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 2: our poor clogging checklist on. 1130 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 5: Our app too. 1131 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: That's just it's so easy from your phone with the 1132 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 2: clear Stem app. But yes, this checklist and you can 1133 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: just go through it and just get in tune with 1134 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 2: your body and just see from this checklist maybe what's 1135 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: going on in your diet and your lifestyle. 1136 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 5: And commit to sixty days. You can commit to anything 1137 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 5: for sixty days, go through the checklist, eliminate the big triggers, 1138 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 5: and see how you respond. And it is so beyond helpful. 1139 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 3: I just want to say, it is actually really refreshing 1140 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: and beautiful to see people who have been through something 1141 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 3: and are able to have actually gone through the experience 1142 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 3: and then created something from that. There are so many 1143 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 3: products out there, so many skincare brands. We all know 1144 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: they're just shops and shops filled with it. But to 1145 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 3: have people who've actually been through it, who've done so 1146 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 3: much research on it, who've lived it themselves and have 1147 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 3: come out the other side, to then know that this works, 1148 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 3: it's just it's really wonderful to see that. So thank 1149 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 3: you guys so much for sharing everything you've learned with 1150 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: the world through your products. Thank you, and I'm so grateful, 1151 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 3: thank you for being here. 1152 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 4: Like why