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Speaker 1: you on board. It was a freezing cold morning in

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Speaker 1: January of nineteen sixty off the coast of San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: The bay was engulfed in a lair of thick fog,

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Speaker 1: so dense that the passengers of the boat couldn't see

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Speaker 1: the water around them, nor the lights of the city

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Speaker 1: a mile away. But that didn't stop Frank Morris trying.

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Speaker 1: As he sat in chains alongside nine other prisoners, he

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Speaker 1: into the darkness until he could just make out the

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Speaker 1: distant shape of the city. Even though his wrists and

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Speaker 1: ankles were shackled, he refused to let himself feel like

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Speaker 1: and he'd be back on the mainland soon enough. At

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, Frank had been fending for himself his entire life,

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Speaker 1: and often by eleven. He committed his first crime at thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Since then, he'd been in and out of prison ever

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Speaker 1: since for various nonviolent offenses, most recently bank robbery. You

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Speaker 1: must really like the big house, one of the cops

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Speaker 1: had said to him during his most recent arrest. But

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Speaker 1: that was just it. Frank didn't like prison. He hated

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Speaker 1: feeling trapped more than anything in the world, and he

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Speaker 1: had a long history of escape attempts, which is how

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Speaker 1: he'd found himself here on this boat heading to the

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Speaker 1: most infamous prison in America. During his trial for the

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Speaker 1: bank robbery, the judge had labeled him an escape artist,

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Speaker 1: and then, with a sneer in his voice, he sentenced

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Speaker 1: him to fourteen years at Alcatraz. As the boat began

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Speaker 1: form of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary. It loomed over him through

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Speaker 1: knew that life on Alcatraz was no picnic. He'd heard

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Speaker 1: the stories prisoners dying by suicide or maiming themselves, unable

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Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be him, because Frank had a plan.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard mc lean smith.

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Speaker 1: Alcatraz was a prison within a prison, formerly a military fort.

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Speaker 1: The building itself was highly secure, made out of reinforced

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Speaker 1: water with vicious currents that could effortlessly drag you out

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Speaker 1: it would be suicide even at et it That double

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Speaker 1: layer of security made Alcatraz ideal for housing the most

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Speaker 1: that howled and echoed around the windows, and prisoners had

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Speaker 1: so despite the impossibility of escape, some prisoners got desperate

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Speaker 1: enough to try. There had been more than ten escape attempts.

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Speaker 1: In almost every case, the prisoners had been caught or

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Speaker 1: During the day, the prisoner's movements and communications were closely

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Speaker 1: Unlike the others, Allan had been there for long enough

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Speaker 1: When a guard asked him what he was doing, Alan replied,

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Speaker 1: he'd play it as John and Clarence drilled. When they

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Speaker 1: escape that worried Frank the most was the water. If

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Speaker 1: a solution. Over the past few months. The four men

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Speaker 1: had been systematically stealing prison issue raincoats. It was easy

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Speaker 1: time on rainy days, then cast aside and forgotten. Nobody

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