WEBVTT - My Sleep Expert - Dr. Meredith Broderick

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<v Speaker 1>How many hours of sleep does a healthy adult need?

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<v Speaker 2>At least seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Is eleven? Depressing?

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven? Something's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>O good, coshha cosh sh show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Tosh Show. Great to be here on

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<v Speaker 1>this blessed Tuesday. Tuesday. The day is so great they

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<v Speaker 1>gave it two days. I like it. How you doing, Eddie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good. How are you doing? You know, just

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for Mother's Day?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gearing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>She is good?

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<v Speaker 1>Good? That is awkward when he asked somebody they're I know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think you got to know going and

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<v Speaker 2>as they are.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, you canna? How are you gonna know without asking?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're doing it just to be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I always assume people's mothers are alive, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just rocked to the core when I fin out there,

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<v Speaker 1>dead as shit. Yea deadis ship. Oh I am not

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to the day my mom dies. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, I prepare for it. What have you prepared?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is what I'm gonna say at her funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give us a little taste.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna beat box.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'll tell you why I'm in to beat boxing

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<v Speaker 5>ever since that one in sync song where justin Timberlake

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<v Speaker 5>just just went to town. I was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the most ridiculous started to a show I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. I need to check into my mom because

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Days coming up? Okay, and No, normally I just

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<v Speaker 1>get my mom a card, but this year I got

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<v Speaker 1>our car. Boom. Who's her favorite prodigal son? Two prodigal sons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two prodigal sons, both both yeah, both me and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Andrew. Straight. That's so funny. We went across

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<v Speaker 1>the country. She's got two prodigal sons. When we do return,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be no one there to kill the fatted calf.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all things I worry about anyway. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>got my mama car. Oh my goodness. It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>generosity that oozes out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of card you get her?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a beat he you know, no real lemon, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's way worse than the car she was currently driving. Nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Listen, all she talks about now is there's

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<v Speaker 1>just too much technology in it. Ah, let's see that

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<v Speaker 1>old hag's up too. I love her, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Hey, this is Marco.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never once planned for her not answering her phone.

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<v Speaker 1>What could she be doing at three or clock on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday? That's prime awake time? Wa Hey, uh? Two things? One?

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<v Speaker 1>How many cinnamon rolls did you eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Three? H seems tuesday seems like an unacceptable number. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>where and where's mom? She's here? Do you want her? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me talk to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you answer on your phone?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just looking at my phone. It was right there,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't say.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking? You change your number? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I always have it silence, But yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have it in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you Have you figured out how to get your

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<v Speaker 1>phone hooked up to your new car? The bluetooth? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that roll?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Dad's doing that? Dad soaking his up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>doing that. I don't do all that. That's crazy. There's

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<v Speaker 4>so much. I mean, I love the new car, I

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<v Speaker 4>really do, but there's a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even know how to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to open.

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<v Speaker 4>The sun roof and the all the buttons on the

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<v Speaker 4>top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you gotta get in there and tinker. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>about id. Does the seat have massaging or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Does our seat? What about colder? Ask them if it

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<v Speaker 1>blows cold air?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it blow cold air on my butt?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I bet it does?

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<v Speaker 2>You think it does?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, there's like next to the heated seats, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a one that you make it, press it again,

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<v Speaker 1>make it turn blue. Oh, by the way, this counts

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<v Speaker 1>as my Mother's Day gift. What this phone call the car?

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, we're leaving. We're leaving this weekend

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<v Speaker 4>for North Carolina. So I was going to tell you, anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>don't send flowers because we won't be here for a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>For a three weeks, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this your first road trip with the new whip?

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<v Speaker 4>Huh uh huh.

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<v Speaker 6>I really do like driving, and I you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>thing is, I know now I should have gotten rid

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<v Speaker 6>of the old car, But it scared me, Daniel that

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<v Speaker 6>last time when it heat it up and it said

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<v Speaker 6>get all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right away, I thought it was going to blow up.

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<v Speaker 2>It scared me a lot. And and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>never had trouble till January.

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<v Speaker 4>We started having one thing after another, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>so strange, so I hope Mike can sell it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, I you know, I wish we.

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<v Speaker 4>Had done it last fall when you had suggested. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I, oh, we should have done it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>We should have just gone down and traded that in

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<v Speaker 4>and gotten the car ourselves. But I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just the timing wasn't right or but but now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I was afraid of that car in the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And it was such a good car for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, sorry about that, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you didn't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm teasing. That's just a bit. That is just a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard everything he said. It was such a it's

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<v Speaker 1>so long as long as I've ever talked to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete was worried. This wasn't gonna be long enough for

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<v Speaker 1>an act one.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't gonna be on. This isn't night, No Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Don't worry about it, all right, Let me go. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I got I got work to do, save travels.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you soon, Love you bye. I tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>I could use a nap now, And today's guest will

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<v Speaker 1>watch me enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>Posha.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today has dedicated her life's work to my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite part of the day. She has a medical degree

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<v Speaker 1>in counting sheep. Please welcome the sleep Guru herself, Meredith Meredith,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being here, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>My first question, Doctor Meredith, do you believe in ghosts?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, it's good to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>They still scare me though.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Sure, A lot of things that aren't real if

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<v Speaker 1>they appeared would terrify me. You were born in Korea

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<v Speaker 1>and adopted by a family from Akron, Ohio. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be honest as an infant when you

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<v Speaker 1>found out that you lived in Ohio, where you like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fucking horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite T shirt of all time is it's a

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt of the skyline of Cleveland and it says

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland You've got to be tough, which is true.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that skyline? Is it? I get? Are there

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<v Speaker 1>memorable buildings to make up that skyline in Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really? There's the Key Bank building and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>rock rock and Roll Hall of Fame. No, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a highlight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I've walked around that thing a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Never stepped foot inside, but I've walked around it as

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<v Speaker 1>a first generation immigrant with white parents. What was Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>like in the eighties? Were you aware? Did you feel like, Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I never even knew the term transracial

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<v Speaker 2>adoptee until I think I moved to Seattle, But id it?

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<v Speaker 2>Does you do have this like George of the Jungle

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<v Speaker 2>feel when you're like, you're like, you're like Asian on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside, but you feel like a white you think

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<v Speaker 2>like a white person.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think like a white person? Mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the first time I kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>to know a lot of Asians was when I went

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<v Speaker 2>for my fellowship at Stanford and there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Asians there.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford hit the bell. That's another one. We have so

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<v Speaker 1>many Stanford grads on this show. It's pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time you met a lot of Asians?

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<v Speaker 1>Is here in California?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And you know, when you meet other Asians, they

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<v Speaker 2>have like a secret handshake and they expect you to

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<v Speaker 2>know certain things, and when you don't, they're sort of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's what's wrong with you? Like why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know? Or people will just start speaking in

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<v Speaker 2>Korean to me and I'm like, I does not compute.

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<v Speaker 1>How about now? So now I feel like course I did, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in college, I took Korean and I

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<v Speaker 2>met more Korean people. But still there's this feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of almost like an imposter syndrome, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't belong in this group.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of an interesting like racial identity to come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what about what about with your children? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>making them more aware of their So my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in kindergarten. She came home and she said I

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<v Speaker 2>told her that she's half Korean. They were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that and I said, you know, you're half Korean and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, well, will I be full Korean when I

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<v Speaker 2>grow up?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great question. That's a good kid.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's hard to explain, of course it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ah, but it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>You attended the Ohio State University. Did you say it

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Yes, like a complete asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we say it, because there's Ohio University, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just we don't want to be associated.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I don't. Those two of rarely are

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<v Speaker 1>confused with each other. But okay, did you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time at that university quite a party school.

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<v Speaker 2>No I did. I had a really good time, really

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<v Speaker 2>good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus has always been one of my favorite cities to

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<v Speaker 1>perform in shows. I love going there. What's your least

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Ohio city? Dayton?

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<v Speaker 2>Dayton?

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<v Speaker 1>Dayton is awful. Have you ever been there?

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<v Speaker 2>Just briefly?

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<v Speaker 1>It's no good. That's a garbage city. John John back there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Ohio, so here he cares about everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. Where are you from in Ohio? I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up very east, probably like two hours from Columbus. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>two hours from Columbus. It's not even a place two

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<v Speaker 1>hours you can go across the whole state. It takes four,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So you're a sleep expert, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sleep neurologist.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody has sleep problems. What do they do? What are

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<v Speaker 1>their normal complaints or problems? And they come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the process?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically? I evaluate people and I try to use my

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<v Speaker 2>training and try to classify their disorder into medical descriptions. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, snoring is a really common reason people will

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<v Speaker 2>come see me. Being sleepy during the day is really common.

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<v Speaker 2>Insomnia is really common. And then you'll get some unique

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<v Speaker 2>things like sleepwalking, acting up my dreams type things, nightmares.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun. People start walking around and doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's interesting. My brother was actually a sleepwalker, and

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<v Speaker 2>he would do things like climb out of like he

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<v Speaker 2>would punch out his window and like jump off the

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<v Speaker 2>roof and like run around and ring the doorbell. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot more sympathy for my mom now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm mean that's a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very severe and it I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, I was slept through it until one day.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean he used to walk. He went to

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio University and that explains it. And he would he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he would like up in the middle of like campus

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<v Speaker 2>and his boxer shorts and be like how did I

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<v Speaker 2>get here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's still doing this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's better now. I think to some he

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<v Speaker 2>like grew out of it to some degree, but he

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<v Speaker 2>like can't if he goes to a hotel or like

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<v Speaker 2>spends the night he wants to sleep on the first

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<v Speaker 2>floor in the basement. So there's like long lasting effects

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus. Yeah, I would travel with handcuffs and just literally

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<v Speaker 1>handcuff me to the bed. Every night and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can uncuff me in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a bad idea. I mean there are some people

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<v Speaker 2>that we have them like zip themselves up in like

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<v Speaker 2>a really tight sleeping bag and like put mits on

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<v Speaker 2>their hands and you know they can't have anything sharp

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<v Speaker 2>in their room.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch these people sleep? Is that part of

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<v Speaker 1>your job? Ever? It is? Oh, it's so weird. Are

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<v Speaker 1>are you bored? Or he's got like a motion sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do they let you know when the highlights are coming?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, so we record it and then I would

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<v Speaker 2>page through it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't go to their house and just just hover. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no personal visits that it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a fun thing to do. Don't mind her, she's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, nowadays two people will record themselves and they'll send

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<v Speaker 2>me things like sometimes they'll get a message on social

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<v Speaker 2>media like can you just look at this video? And

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's interesting sometimes the way people set up cameras

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<v Speaker 2>and like people will like do it just of their

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<v Speaker 2>eyes And I'll be like, yeah, that's just when as

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<v Speaker 2>you're falling asleep, your eyes kind of rove side to

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<v Speaker 2>side and it's just normal.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought they were posastrous.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was something wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of your clients sleep issues are actually linked

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<v Speaker 1>to unresolved trauma?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say a pretty high percentage, maybe thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're basically a therapist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they expected to tell you like stuff that they

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<v Speaker 1>went through?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't always tell people. I've had people write me

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<v Speaker 2>a letter years later and tell me something that they

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<v Speaker 2>were holding in and they finally addressed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when I see, what's the first thing we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>We would just talk for about an hour about your sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>about your life, and me really understanding what you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fix.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance cover this? It does in Seattle? I bet it does?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it everywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 6>Does?

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<v Speaker 2>You take insurance or no, I take out of network insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Do people in general sleep better in Seattle because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the rain?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I actually think the light dark

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<v Speaker 2>cycle because it's so dramatic there probably messes with people.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus there's all the tech people and you know they

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<v Speaker 2>have issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you specialize in sleep? One?

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was interesting. Two, when you practice

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<v Speaker 2>neurology and you see people having strokes and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>diagnose them with horrible things, you think, gosh, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to do something more about prevention. And so that really

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<v Speaker 2>appealed to me. And back when I chose it as

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<v Speaker 2>a profession, people thought it was really strange, like it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even a real field. I remember being in in

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<v Speaker 2>my fellowship and meeting people and saying, is that like

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<v Speaker 2>a real specially like I think they thought maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like a complimentary medicine type.

0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Of something, like you were ahead of the curve. Because

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<v Speaker 1>now everyone cares yes so much. I mean listening off

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<v Speaker 1>my father in law, just watching him strap up his

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<v Speaker 1>seapat machine at night, and I'm just like, then he's

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<v Speaker 1>bragging about his scores in the morning, I'm just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got over an eighty Is that good?

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<v Speaker 2>It is good?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? How many hours of sleep does a healthy adult need?

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<v Speaker 2>At least seven between seven and nine. We like to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's this Goldilock zone, not too little, not too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but seven and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is eleven depressing?

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven something's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what I'd like. I like, No, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I like? I can't even do the math.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at least an eight hour sleeper.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't sleep it straight? Is that okay? That

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<v Speaker 1>I get up of three or four times in the night,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two or three?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they short?

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<v Speaker 1>Very short, just to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's what we wake up after every sleep cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably what's happening. If you think about it, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like how to protect yourself if you're living in the wild, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you wake up, you look around, and then you go

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<v Speaker 2>back to sleep. You're making sure everything's still okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm protecting my house. Oh man, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also my biggest fear about jail. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep has effect in my life to where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever want to commit a crime because going

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<v Speaker 1>to jail that just seems like such a nightmare to me.

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<v Speaker 1>How they sleep in there?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they do in jail?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. First of all, you only get

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<v Speaker 1>one pillow, okay, and then there's a threat at all

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<v Speaker 1>times somebody doing something to you, like your brother, except

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<v Speaker 1>for they're not asleep. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems crazy if jail was like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have three pillows and you can stay in your

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<v Speaker 1>cell all day and sleep all day and night and

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<v Speaker 1>we won't bug you. Then I'd be like, okay, jail

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<v Speaker 1>sounds okay, but the fact that it's like no rise

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<v Speaker 1>and shine, and you got to get why are they

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<v Speaker 1>waking people up? I'll be honest with me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that they do, but I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>think they do anyway, Stroke prevention, How is sleep related

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<v Speaker 1>to this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you have a sleep disorder, you're more at

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<v Speaker 2>risk for vascular disease, so heart attack and stroke, because

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<v Speaker 2>sleep plays such an important role in restoring our health

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<v Speaker 2>and immune function. If we don't sleep well, our blood

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<v Speaker 2>pressure goes up and that's a huge risk factor for

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<v Speaker 2>vascular disease.

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<v Speaker 1>I this is great. All this stuff makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because nothing bothers me more when I talk to those

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<v Speaker 1>people that I, oh, it's just three or four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I need. And I'm like, what's the best

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<v Speaker 1>position to sleep in?

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<v Speaker 2>Depends on what you're thinking about. But interestingly, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a study that just came out in January in a

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<v Speaker 2>very prestigious journal called Cell. These scientists think that when

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<v Speaker 2>we sleep on our sides, we can drain our veins

0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.359
<v Speaker 2>on our neck. We have these big jugular veins in

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<v Speaker 2>our neck and this clearance of waste that happens when

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.040
<v Speaker 2>we sleep. We get better drainage when we sleep on

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<v Speaker 2>our sides. And depending on how the anatomy of your

0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.600
<v Speaker 2>venous drainage, you may to do both sides or sleep

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<v Speaker 2>on one side.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like this answer. I sleep on. I sleep

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<v Speaker 1>on my sides, flip back and forth throughout the night,

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and then occasionally I'll do a little bit on my back,

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<v Speaker 1>and occasionally I'll do a little on my stomach. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, I don't have a set position.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my wife just sleeps, doesn't move, doesn't remove the covers,

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<v Speaker 1>and just sweats all night long. I just find it

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing and disgusting. What's the ideal temperature we should be

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping at?

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<v Speaker 2>They say sixty five? Does sixty eight degrees?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's my heaven if you could talk

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<v Speaker 1>my wife into sixty five. No, it's just it's like

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, just something awful. What kind of mattress should

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<v Speaker 1>we be using?

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<v Speaker 2>There is some personal preference. What's subjective, and for some

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<v Speaker 2>people it depends on you know, how much you weigh,

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<v Speaker 2>So the more you weigh the firmer mattress you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need and so, but like a medium firm is generally

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what most people are gonna prefer. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's some a little bit of science around. It should

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<v Speaker 2>be heat dissipating, so you know, it's keeping you your

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<v Speaker 2>body cool. You're not getting hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything she's wrong, right, everything she sleeps wrong. She shouldn't

0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>be this hot. All right, that's a firmished matdress. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do I have a little bit of the acid reflex.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've put the blocks up on the bed to

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<v Speaker 1>for a slight that's fine, right, yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, No, that's good, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>What about those beds the old people have the foldable ones?

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<v Speaker 1>Are people actually sleeping those things?

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<v Speaker 2>People do? There are some people that need to elevate more,

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<v Speaker 2>either because you know their body weight, it helps them

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mechanically breathe easier, or for reflex. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some people just have trouble getting out of bed, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's helpful for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, well, I don't like it when they

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<v Speaker 1>have beds that are split in half, where one half

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<v Speaker 1>can do something in the other half and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a seam in the middle. All of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to roll over and say hi to what's her name?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now I've got a seam.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but you know what with the temperature thing like

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about, they have those cooling mattresses now where

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, you can have the cooling mattress on

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<v Speaker 2>your head.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I don't care about any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's and you know the worst mattresses of those air

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<v Speaker 1>any sleep numbers where they have the air that's garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Is snoring a sign of someone getting real sound sleep

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<v Speaker 1>or a sign that they're about to die.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more on the about to die closer to the

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<v Speaker 2>about to die. Although you can do that for a

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.240
<v Speaker 2>long time and your body sort of makes adaptations and

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 2>they're not necessarily great adaptations. Like your your brain starts

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>stops being as arousable, so you start becoming sleepier and sleepier.

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's why, you know, think about it. If someone's

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<v Speaker 2>snoring really loud and they can sleep through that, you

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 2>know that's not natural. You should awaken to something that loud.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great. See, I'm just I'm just thinking my

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in laws now because she has to have my mother

0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in law has to have a sound machine on. A

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>sound machine as an adult seems unnecessary. Josta has to

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<v Speaker 1>have a complete black there can be no light, and

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 1>then then he's got the seapap machine on and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just chaos in there. It's just the loudest noise. I

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 1>have got children in the other room that don't need

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<v Speaker 1>these type of distractions.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with them getting older?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that's just and just. It seems like they're just

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<v Speaker 1>making stuff up. Explain what sleep debt is to people

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<v Speaker 1>who might not be aware of the termin thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a hippie dippy bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of it like sleep appetite. So whenever you

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<v Speaker 2>stay awake, your body builds up neurotransmitters and that increases

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 2>your need for sleep. So it's just like if you

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.719
<v Speaker 2>starve yourself for a while, you'll become hungry and hungrier.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need a certain amount of sleep debt sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>hours on average to sleep eight hours at night.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll believe that. Can we catch up on

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<v Speaker 1>sleep to some degree?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>So for instance, if you're very sleep deprived, Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you have a big test or something this week and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get great sleep and then you can make

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<v Speaker 2>up for it on the weekend. But if you're chronically

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<v Speaker 2>sleep deprived, if you just think about in terms of math,

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<v Speaker 2>if you add up those hours, it becomes so many hours.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're chronically sleep deprived, you really can't catch up

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother, I was not a great student. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>were a great student. But my mother's advice to me

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<v Speaker 1>always Sometimes I would be overwhelmed about a test and

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<v Speaker 1>herd vice as a well, instead of studying really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd like, wehill just make sure you have a good

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<v Speaker 1>night's sleep. That was always her advice to almost everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, it's a good advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really good advice.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's good advice. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have to study, but then there are all

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<v Speaker 2>other studies that show you're learning. You keep what you

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<v Speaker 2>learned if you sleep after.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, I don't know. I think she was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just need some sleep. I failed the test.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, were you rested? I felt great? How

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<v Speaker 1>long should it take you to fall asleep?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, fifteen minutes, ten to fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I can full sleep. I can beat that. You can,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh easily?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you like my head hits the pillow and naps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the second I am allowed to take a nap,

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<v Speaker 1>I just go to sleep for how long, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean to end as long as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to. If I had my dream nap, I would

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<v Speaker 1>probably it would probably be close to an hour, but

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<v Speaker 1>usually they're much shorter than that. Is that too long?

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<v Speaker 1>Is an hour too long?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not too long. There are different lengths of

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<v Speaker 2>naps that have different benefits. So like the power nap,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting a certain number of minutes of stage two

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<v Speaker 2>and that's performance enhancing. And then you know, we say,

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<v Speaker 2>like the perfect nap is one sleep cycle midday, and

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<v Speaker 2>so there's like different times you would take it to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get different distributions of your sleep stages.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I'm very European. I just need

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<v Speaker 1>a nap after I eat. If I eat lunch, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go down almost immediately. Can napping be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The only time I'm really against them is for people

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<v Speaker 2>who struggle with chronic insomnia. They're very counterproductive to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or sometimes people fall asleep on the couch and then

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<v Speaker 2>they get up to go to bed, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>can't sleep because they've you know, just slept for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife every night falls asleep on the couch at

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<v Speaker 1>night and I'm like, well, why don't we just get

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<v Speaker 1>up and go to bed, and she's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go. I'm like, she just wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep twice Basically, it seems so unnecessary. But the

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<v Speaker 1>ordeal of doing all the stuff before bed is too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we have no TVs in any bedroom in

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<v Speaker 1>our house, but everybody gets an iPad. No, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have TVs. I remember when they were that was I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, no, there's like one. There's TV in

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<v Speaker 1>the family room. The end, it's it's the phones and

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<v Speaker 1>the screens that are the biggest problem with good sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So I think that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading on your phone before bed is it's bad for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad because it's the light, for one, is sending

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<v Speaker 2>a signal that it's daytime.

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<v Speaker 1>When can't we change the light setting.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really filter it out completely at the little

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<v Speaker 2>like blut. I forget what it's called, like dark mode

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<v Speaker 2>or I forget what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a dark mode.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also what we're doing. So if you're on

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>social media or you're scrolling, it's kind of giving you

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a little dopamine hits and just kind of it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of keeps your day going where we need a little.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if I'm just straight reading from the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's okay. I mean, it's better. The less

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<v Speaker 2>light the better.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you stop eating before bed?

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<v Speaker 2>So I eat dinner around six o'clock and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>eat anything after that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have dessert after dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean rarely, unless it's like a special occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a sweet tooth, or you just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have dessert because it's not good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It will affect my sleep. I will have a reflux.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I just if I do, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>gain weight.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a tiny person. I don't is you're do you die?

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<v Speaker 1>It is a huge part of sleeping, right it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is more than people realize. They're entwined, they're synergistic

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<v Speaker 2>with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying a minimum of three hours, I would

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum of three I'd love to eat, And then well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about but naps, It's okay to eat and then

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<v Speaker 1>crash if you eat before bed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one you can have like reflux and things

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. But also it moves your circadian rhythm, like

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>your natural timing of sleep, it moves it a little later. So,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're someone who has trouble getting up in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning or going to bed at the right time,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be very counterproductive.

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<v Speaker 1>How come if I don't fall asleep right when I'm tired,

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<v Speaker 1>that then oh, there goes that opportunity to fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the answer to that question, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do hear people say that a lot that they almost

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, you know, it's like a wave coming and

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<v Speaker 2>you missed it and you have to wait for the

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<v Speaker 2>next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But that's not helpful if you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>why do you sleep well?

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<v Speaker 4>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I sleep extremely well?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always slept well?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those goods sleepers. But in sleep medicine,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be too sleepy. So I've definitely been on

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<v Speaker 2>that end of the spectrum, like we think of insomnia's

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<v Speaker 2>when you don't sleep well. But there can also be

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>people who are too sleepy and sleep too much, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I've definitely been on that end of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>at times in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you are you married?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm married?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, your husband, yes? Does he sleep well?

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<v Speaker 6>He does.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys go to bed at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>every night?

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<v Speaker 2>We do, but we're kind of we're both night owls,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we we sort of have a negative effect

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<v Speaker 2>on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. Okay, you're both night owls. So

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<v Speaker 1>what time do you go to bed at night?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, because I have young kids, I try to go

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<v Speaker 2>to bed by like nine thirty ten. But Pry before kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like midnight.

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<v Speaker 1>What time do you wake up? What times the kids

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<v Speaker 1>wake up?

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<v Speaker 2>My kids wake up around six forty five seven, but

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<v Speaker 2>I get up at between six and six fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting your routine. We have the exact same

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>age kids. You have a two year old and a

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<v Speaker 1>six year old. We both have two year olds and

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<v Speaker 1>six year olds. Every minute that I'm awake past them

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<v Speaker 1>going to bed, I feel is wasted. I'm like, I

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>should just go down. What am I doing? What We're

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>going to start a new series? Like this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the time, this is this is time to recharge. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I try I try to go I go to

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<v Speaker 1>bed very early. Did your kids sleep well?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I had to sleep train them, which for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason is extremely controversial. Whenever I talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>people will I'll get messages saying like you're a child abuser.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that who cares think that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but for some reason it's so controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did. I did sleep train my first one

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<v Speaker 2>around six months, and the second one I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like three months.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, oh, good for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep trained the first one and it took in

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<v Speaker 1>like two days. Yes, it was like two days of torture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing the alarm on my phone. Okay, but

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the second one didn't care as much and she just

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out pretty quickly. Both of my kids great sleepers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see people that struggle but they don't do

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<v Speaker 1>the things necessary to stop it. So I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care anymore. Oh you're tired, Well, yeah, your

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<v Speaker 1>kid still sleeps in your bed and she's five? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what age do you put like pillows and blankets and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in there?

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I waited, and you're technically supposed to wait until one

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>year because sometimes longer.

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Some of these pediatricians like, don't put anything in there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, my kid's got a pillow blanket, doesn't

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>need a sleepsack and just sleeps. They're like, well does

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<v Speaker 1>she stay on the pillow? Like for the most part?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How important are pillows?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know the scientific answer to that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think people find them to be helpful for

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>next support, and I think they become something we're used

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<v Speaker 2>to if we have them.

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<v Speaker 1>So, how many pillows you sleep with?

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<v Speaker 2>Two?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a three?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they all under your head?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I have one like kind of like uh, firmish

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>foam one that is down and then a really soft

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>feather one on top it. That way I get the height,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still have the softness of the feather one

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>smart Okay. Then the other one is just for body

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and knees and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use that in my clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have that one. No, but my wife has

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>just she's got all kinds of nonsense. She's got these

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 1>square pillows that are supposed to help for back support.

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>None of it I don't pay attention to. There's a

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>wall between us at this point, and that both physical

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and emotional. Do women actually require more sleep than men?

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>There are studies that show that women need a little

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>bit more sleep than men, But it's a little bit

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 2>murky because women also have more fragmented sleep and more

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>sleep disruption, and so there is it's not really clear

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>whether there's a physiological need for more sleep or women

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>just sleep a little bit more because it's more disrupted,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 2>or they have more you know, some women have more

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>responsibilities if they carry the domestic load and then also working,

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>So we don't really know if it's purely physiology or

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<v Speaker 2>it's a combination of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you work through your pregnancies or no, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like that or no?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it would have been nice, I think to

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>have a choice about it. I think I would have

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>liked to work less than like normal. And it's definitely

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>like a push pull where I love my work and

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I love what I do, but I'm also aware of

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that this is such a transient and important

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>time to pay full attention to my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you sleep while you were pregnant?

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<v Speaker 2>Not as good as I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Sure?

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But was it was it miserable at the end?

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<v Speaker 4>Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of vivid dreams, which is very common.

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<v Speaker 2>I had I had horrible reflux, to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>like one of my back, like the back part of

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>one of my teeth like shattered off because my reflux

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>was so bad. Oh so yeah, And then I had

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>all the pillows.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you the big snake one that wrapsed around you?

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I hated that thing so much. The day that thing

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>left our bedroom, I was just so excited.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Just because it takes up so much space.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because putting the dumb pillow case on it is maddening.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's so fucking hard. It's a two person job. I

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>need somebody to hold while I'm pulling. It's I just

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like that my son doesn't close his eyes

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all the way when he sleeps. Besides it just being creepy.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything I need to do?

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Is it all the time?

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Or do you like when I see him sleeping, I'm like,

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>there's they're just a little bit open, you know, people

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that sleep with their eyes a little bit open.

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I think, just as long as his eyes aren't dry,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>just making sure that that as ice tay, you know.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think I think his eyes are lubricating. Where

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>are you at on giving kids fistful of fistfuls of melatonin?

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Not good, not good, good to know I would never

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>do that. What about melotonin in general?

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I like melatonin for very specific reasons, for short periods

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of time. I think it can be appropriate, but it

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a substitute for trying to form the natural

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>behaviors and creating patterns and consistency with your kids around bedtime.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Have you ever used it for your kids?

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>A few times?

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, me too? What should we sleep in? And what

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think of people that sleep naked? It's disgusting

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>leading the witness? Uh, no comment, naked sleeper? Is that

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>what I just learned by you saying no comment?

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not, I'm not. I think you have to

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>dress for the climate you live in, you know, I mean.

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Controlled climates, well.

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily like in Seattle, no one has air conditioning.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Right in the song Malibu, nobody has air conditioning?

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Really okay? But is there an ice breeze all the time? Okay?

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>But if it's really hot, you know, obviously you're going

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to sleep in something lighter. But you know, they say,

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>like moisture wicking and like heat dissipating fabrics are good.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>But Honestly, those things are like icing on the cake.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not an it's you don't have to have those

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>things to be a good sleeper, but they can. I

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>think they can enhance the experience, right, just.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Like recently gotten pajamas, like actual pajamas, because my wife's like,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Why don't you have any nice pajamas?

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't like sleep. My grandpa. I have one pair

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>of his pajamas because I, as a child, I would

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>always I can I remember all of his pajamas, and

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he had all those, like the pants with the shirt

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and the button. I'm like, he is sleeping in a

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>little suit. Everybody's on the show gets a gift. It's

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>just stuff I bring from my house. You're not gonna

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>like any same story, but it. I tell my kids

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>they have birthday parties. You do birthday parties for your kids.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you invite their friends?

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you allow their friends to bring gifts?

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I say no gifts. I'm always like, no, no gifts,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>no thank you, just whatever. I don't care. And then

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody still brings gifts. Well guess what, I don't give

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>them to my kids. I know, I store them. And

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>then whenever I need a gift for some reason is

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>like boom, We've got a gift ready to go.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Do your kids?

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, okay, no no, I don't tell them.

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But by the way they get they get gifts. We

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>give them gifts for their birthday. But when I'm having

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a party for their birthday, but I just want the

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>kids to come over and play, and I don't want

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>this big thing of everybody bring gifts. But then sure enough,

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody brings a gifts. My son's birthday party just happened

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>in his six year party and Eddie that works here.

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Three people got him magic sets. Now, first of all,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want my kid playing magic here. So there's

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a magic kit for your daughter. I want her to

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>do that unopened gift. Magic's too hard. You can put

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>it on the fourth. There's gona be more gifts. You're

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna come up with me. Do you know how hard

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it is to do magic. It's important to give a

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>practice my kids. I'd rather learn the piano. I don't

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>want to spending all his time in his room becoming

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a magician. That's just weird. He's got three kits. The

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.479
<v Speaker 1>one Eddie got him is he opened it too quickly,

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>so I couldn't regift it. That's not that one. It

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was like three thousand pieces. Anyway, that's not your other daughter,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>your two year old. These are nice unused book a

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>unicorn and you just come home with something and make

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>them happy.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>There you go give that now, I don't have to

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>shop for them to bring them.

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't write exactly, we'll put that in there here. Now,

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>your husband did he watched my show? Right?

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>He is a super fan.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, look at this. This is an award I received.

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It is presented to Dan to celebrate my one millionth

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Tosh point zero download. It must have been something on

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>an app or something stupid. I've never had any awards

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>hung anywhere. I gotta get rid of the I'm gonna

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>sign that for him.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I guarantee you he will put it in

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>his office.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>All they're good. You tell him to take that. Okay. Now,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I like candles, but you can't sleep with him burga right.

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh so I had a bunch of faint candles. But

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>my wife was like, we can't have fake candles as

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, okay, so we'll just get rid

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of all these candles. We're gonna love these. I think

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 1>there's still batteries in these. Yeah, that one's they look

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>at that. They've got remote controls. You can put those

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>in your kids froom. Then it's safe. They can just

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>have candles.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Just was like, I do not need you have to

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>get another No, no, we'll ship.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>That for you. Don't worrybout that there's remote controls. You

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>can put them on timers. I don't. I don't even

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>my kids. Just doesn't matter. We'll get rid of those.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>You've you'll love those.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm on the prices right, more.

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Like, let's make a deal where you win the all okay,

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna have to get those off the deaths.

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. It's a lot, I know, but.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 2>You you know I'll give you a back can handle it.

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you made contact with your biological parents.

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I haven't made contact, but I have attempted to. I

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>have done what's called like a search through the adoption agency,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>but they aren't able to put me in contact. But

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I have tried. You know, if I didn't have a

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>little kids right now and I had the bandwidth, I

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>sort of wish I would have done it when I

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 2>was younger.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but people have.

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Told me that it's possible, and you have to go

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to Korea. You have to go to Korea, and you

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 2>have to hire like a private detective, or you have

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 2>to basically find them. I think that's the real hurdle,

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 2>is that, especially in Korea. There' that's why you were

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>giving up for adoption, is there's so much shame about

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>being an unwed mother, and even if in my case

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>from the information I have, it's really forced upon, you know,

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>by the family, because you not only are you bringing

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.959
<v Speaker 2>shame to yourself, you're bringing shamed to the whole family.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And so they sort of don't want to be found.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>And so for some of the people I know that

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 2>have found their families, they still didn't. It was like

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 2>still a secret. It was like, I'll talk to you,

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>but there's not going to be any like reunions or

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 2>anything because I have my family now and they don't.

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Know about you now. As an adoptive individual, how do

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel about the experience overall and what advice would

0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you offer to someone considering it.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>The main thing that I would tell people is keep

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 2>the connection between the biological family. You know, you don't

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>necessarily have to have a relationship the whole childhood, but

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>maintain that identity and the connection so that if the

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>child has questions and wants to seek that out someday,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>they have a right to go ask those questions.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean health benefits alone.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, health benefits for sure.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I've looked into adopting before, I think in California. Now,

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>in California, all adoptions have to be open adoptions. It

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>can't be a sealed off private like that they used

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to be. Is that true or no?

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that for sure.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. I don't know that was what

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I was told. Now that, which I think is a

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>good thing. Is what you're saying is what we should do.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you have a nightmare and still have good sleep?

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>You can? A lot of it has to do with

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the way the person subjectively interprets that experience. Usually when

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:56.919
<v Speaker 2>people come to see me for that, they're not having

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 2>a good sleep. I mean, that's why they're there to

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>see me.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Is lucid dreaming a real thing?

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 4>It is?

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Can you do it?

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced it, but I'm not one of the rare

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>people that can do it frequently, who experiences it frequently.

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 2>But I've never really trained. I think you have to

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 2>train yourself to some degree.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>How do we how do we know that people are

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>actually good at it and or doing what they say?

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>We just have to take people's word. There's no way

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to track it, right, Yeah.

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes you you know, like there's a famous researcher

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 2>that did these experiments where he would be following people's

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>eye movements and they would wake up and say they

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>were playing like a ping pong match. And you know,

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 2>there can be little things like that.

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's the one thing that goes back and forth.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>True, but no, you do have to take their word

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>for it.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I've tried to control a dream or too,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but at some point, I'm like, I'm just wide awake.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I'm not this is no longer a dream.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're supposed to ask yourself during the day, am

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I dreaming? Am I dreaming? And then by saying that

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and practicing it, then that should happen to you when

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>you're dreaming, and then supposedly you'll realize that you're dreaming.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 2>That's supposedly the first step. And then once you have

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that awareness that you're dreaming, then you can try to

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>control the dream.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm going to start working on it. Am

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I dreaming? Am I dreaming? I'm going to do that

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>all day long. Do dreams mean anything?

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it depends who you ask, But they're basically

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>going to contain content from the day, important things that

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>happen during the day. And then basically what's happening is

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the brain is scanning memories and trying to make associations

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 2>between past memories, and so what we remember about them

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 2>is what we call dreams. I mean, we all dream

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>every night and we're not consciously aware of it or

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>don't remember it. But I think there is a whole

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>community in neuroscience these are like legitimate researchers that believe

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 2>there's so much about our unconscious awareness and our intuition

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>that does have meaning, but we just don't. We don't

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of answers about it. But I do

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>think to answer you, I do think they have meaning,

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>but maybe not the way, maybe not the way we

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 2>think about that they have meaning.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Are the things I can do to improve my quality.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Of sleep, sleep hygiene, which we all hear about. It's

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of like we think of it like getting a

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>dental cleaning, so maintaining good sleep hygiene. So that's you know,

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>minimizing caffeine, minimizing alcohol, keeping consistent bedtimes and wake times,

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, not watching TV in your bed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping your bedroom just for intimacy and just for sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things are protective against developing a sleep disorder. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's number one. Number two, I would say all of

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<v Speaker 2>these health things like nutrition and exercise, physical fitness, emotional health,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all you know, they all are synergistic. So anything

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<v Speaker 2>that promotes your wellness and health is good for sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And what it really comes down to a lot from

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<v Speaker 2>a medical perspective is vasculine. So like having normal cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 2>having normal blood pressure, having a healthy body weight, those

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<v Speaker 2>are all things that will promote long term All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, doctor Meredith, thank you for being on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cass show, Thank you, Meredith. Can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 1>home tonight. Crawl into bed. You know it keeps me

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<v Speaker 1>awake at night, noise, mostly noise. If everybody shut the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck up a fall asleep, how about you? You can

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<v Speaker 1>fall asleep under any circumstance. Well, it's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>segment we call hello from Toss Show. That's where one

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<v Speaker 1>of our lucky subscribers gets a personal shout out from me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is to uh Brett Hamilton, who proposed to his

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas back in twenty fifteen. I'm told the marriage is

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<v Speaker 1>don't know his wife's first name. Let's just guess, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, ed Claire Claire Hamilton. That beautiful name,

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<v Speaker 1>Breton Claire. I'm guessing this'd be their second marriage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>name Mike Claire. You got a name, Mike Claire. That's

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<v Speaker 1>you great for the free plug. This week's freak plug

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<v Speaker 1>is from Brownville. Historical Society's Spring Flea Market. It's less

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<v Speaker 1>than one month away. To mark your calendars. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the world's all almost largest flea market. According to their website,

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<v Speaker 1>the market will be open from eight am to five

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<v Speaker 1>pm May twenty fourth through the twenty six And before

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, most vendors or cash only, but more and

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<v Speaker 1>more do take cards. You think they take Apple Pay

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<v Speaker 1>or no? Probably not. Yeah, nobody of those flea markets

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<v Speaker 1>can never get the Apple Pay to work. Nope, that's

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<v Speaker 1>always frustrating. Do you have cash? No, I don't have cash.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm handing you my phone. There is one

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<v Speaker 1>atm in Town, located inside TJ's Tavern at the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of Main Street and Highway one thirty six. Pop in

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<v Speaker 1>for an early morning pint and get loose. Takeout five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred cash and buy some knick knacks or brick or

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<v Speaker 1>brac whatever. All right, there's gonna be several food vendors,

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<v Speaker 1>ranging from funnel cakes to ribs and hamburgers. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>really much of a range. What do you expect. This

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<v Speaker 1>is southeast Nebraska. You're practically in Missouri. They're not They're

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<v Speaker 1>not known for any type of food. Are they I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine anyway. You're encouraged to park on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the street in Brownville and on along Highway one

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. They're encouraging to park along a highway. It

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<v Speaker 1>can't be a real highway. Nope, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a slow speed limit there. Main street will be

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<v Speaker 1>inaccessible during the flea market hours, so don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>about trying to park there. Public restrooms are located in

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<v Speaker 1>the town hall. Oh man, they're gonna let everybody from

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<v Speaker 1>a flea market take a dump in the town hall

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<v Speaker 1>roll in there. Well, that's irony, right, What do you

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<v Speaker 1>buy a flea market? Is there like go to things

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<v Speaker 1>that you want lawn art? A flea mark is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a farmer's market, but just stuff not food, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense, that's just I mean, are people like

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<v Speaker 1>making new stuff or flea mark is not always just

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<v Speaker 1>a It's not like it's not like a garage sale,

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<v Speaker 1>is it. No, I would say it's elevated. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>elevate garage sale. It's much bigger, right, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>some people just like they have they're selling brand new

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<v Speaker 1>art and things, crafts. I'll tell you what, what's better

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<v Speaker 1>a flea market or a craft fair. Flea market, flea

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<v Speaker 1>market's better than a craft fair. Yeah, you get hamburgers

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<v Speaker 1>flea markets. Oh there's no hamburgers at a craft fair.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. See, I think I'm used to craft fairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm going to flea markets very often.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I might go to this flea market

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm up in Omaha. How far away is Brownville

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<v Speaker 1>from Omaha? That's what I need to know. I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely fly in for this. Yeah, this looks like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need a full day to get through it, and

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<v Speaker 1>parking's free. This is a good deal all around. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get up there and spend some

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<v Speaker 1>quality time with the good people in south east Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week.