Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh and
Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry's here sitting in for day. So
Speaker 1: it's short stuff.
Speaker 2: And now cheop of cabra, that's right?
Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? That was gold?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: I asked Chuck said that before we recorded. I was like,
Speaker 1: can you please say that on this episode? It was
Speaker 1: just that great.
Speaker 2: It's better than saying goat sucker because that sounds like
Speaker 2: a very nasty thing that you would call somebody.
Speaker 1: But that's the literal translation of chupa cabra. Chop are
Speaker 1: means to suck, hence why they call them chupa chups.
Speaker 1: I just realized. And cabra means goat, not cobra like
Speaker 1: you would think it means goat, So chuop a cabra
Speaker 1: means goat sucker, not cobra sucker.
Speaker 2: That's right. And if you're already frustrated a minute and
Speaker 2: a half in because you don't know what these words mean,
Speaker 2: we are talking about the probably urban legend of the cryptid,
Speaker 2: which is an animal that doesn't exist but has a
Speaker 2: great legend around it, of the chew cup. Here I go,
Speaker 2: the chewpacabra aka the goat sucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason that they call it a goat
Speaker 1: sucker too, and it's pretty straightforward. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the telltale signs at the chewpacabre
Speaker 2: if they have come by your farm in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night is you will wake up to dead
Speaker 2: farm animals that have been drained of their blood.
Speaker 1: Usually with puncture wounds in their neck, and often there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them and some chupacabra sightings or attacks.
Speaker 1: I guess, hundreds of different animals around a farm, sometimes
Speaker 1: domestic pets, sometimes wild animals in the area are found
Speaker 1: dead all at once. The thing is this chupacabra, which
Speaker 1: is a cryptive we should say, no one's ever actually
Speaker 1: seen one, and all of the sightings and evidence that
Speaker 1: has been collected can be easily explained away by science.
Speaker 1: It's not that big. And from what I can tell
Speaker 1: there people seem to believe there's just one. Did you
Speaker 1: get that impression like there's a choop ofcabra, like there's
Speaker 1: a locknus monsters are speed a different species or race
Speaker 1: of something to where there's multiple ones. Did you that's
Speaker 1: the impression that I have.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I got that impression, but I'm not
Speaker 2: sure that that that I'm right about that impression.
Speaker 1: Can't you just say, yeah, Josh, you're right, way to go?
Speaker 1: Is that so important for me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, should we describe what this thing looks like since
Speaker 2: you brought that up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because imagine what we're about to talk about, killing
Speaker 1: one hundred goats the way that we said they do
Speaker 1: in a night.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've seen its short as three feet tall, but
Speaker 2: generally about four and a half to five five and
Speaker 2: a half feet tall, oval shaped head, glowing eyes like
Speaker 2: sort of alien shaped eyes, which you know, put a
Speaker 2: pin in that because that'll come back, long sharp spines,
Speaker 2: usually from the back of its head down to the tailbone. Strong,
Speaker 2: a stinky odor. A lot of people say it is
Speaker 2: sort of like a sulfur smell. Some people say it
Speaker 2: doesn't smell at all. And then the skin can either
Speaker 2: be like lizardy or like a frog's, or it can
Speaker 2: be what's been described as like a fuzzy lizard with
Speaker 2: like little prickly hairs and scales.
Speaker 1: Fuzzy wuzzy wizard.
Speaker 2: But here's a key walks on two legs for the
Speaker 2: most part, which is one of the creepy parts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so there's a do you want to take
Speaker 1: a break down, come back and talk about this, like
Speaker 1: what people think it is or the origin of it
Speaker 1: or what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is not scripted, everybody.
Speaker 2: All right? Take two?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, can it start from the beginning? You have
Speaker 1: to take it with and now cheopicabra again.
Speaker 2: Okay, and now part two of Chop of Cabra. So
Speaker 2: you talked about the origins. I've seen mentions of this
Speaker 2: all the way back to the nineteen fifties in Arizona.
Speaker 2: It seems like it really picked up steam in the
Speaker 2: nineties as probably as the Internet picked up steam. And
Speaker 2: it looks like Puerto Rico, even though it's been found
Speaker 2: in a lot of countries, supposedly mainly in South America,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of stories from Puerto Rico and
Speaker 2: may have even originated, as at least the modern online
Speaker 2: version from a woman named Madeline Tolentino in San Juan
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Apparently her description kind of set the tone for
Speaker 1: the basis, or set the basis I guess for the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of other descriptions and sightings to come that's right, very
Speaker 1: similar to Betty and Barney Hill. She was the Betty
Speaker 1: and Barney Hill of chupacabra sightings.
Speaker 2: That's right, she was both of them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Puerto Rico is a hot spot of chewpacabra sightings. Apparently,
Speaker 1: in just one year, in one area alone, there was
Speaker 1: several hundred livestock fatalities that were attributed to the chupacabra.
Speaker 1: And I mean in just this one town. Just hundreds
Speaker 1: of livestock dying in one year alone is very bizarre
Speaker 1: and strange. So you can kind of guess that if
Speaker 1: everybody's aware of the chupacabra already, they might be like,
Speaker 1: I think this is the chupacabra at work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. If you've been online and you've seen
Speaker 2: pictures of like chupacabra washed up on the beach, there
Speaker 2: are quite a few of those, and most of them
Speaker 2: have been thoroughly debunked and proven to be It's usually
Speaker 2: like a with mange who had rotted such that their
Speaker 2: skin receded and it ended up looking really, really weird.
Speaker 2: Those aren't chupacabra. In fact, there are no chup of cabra,
Speaker 2: but there have been some sightings in the past couple
Speaker 2: of years that I did look up on YouTube that
Speaker 2: aren't compelling that like where I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's totally real. But it was enough to where I
Speaker 2: was like, what in the world is that.
Speaker 1: Yes, In particular, there's one from twenty twenty two where
Speaker 1: the Amberillo Zoo in Texas found an image or like
Speaker 1: a short snippet of some creature inside its perimeter fence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like one in thirty in the morning. Yeah, walking around,
Speaker 1: and it looks very much like a werewolf if you
Speaker 1: ask me. It's got the big, massive, massive like back
Speaker 1: and shoulders with its head like up around its ears. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's the way it's holding its arms and fingers make it.
Speaker 1: It looks a lot to me like somebody who was
Speaker 1: dressed up like a werewolf and got into the Amarillo
Speaker 1: Zoo on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, fair.
Speaker 1: It's been chalked up as a chupacabra siety.
Speaker 2: That's right. There was another one from twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: in Bolivia, and this one also coincided with a bunch
Speaker 2: of livestock death supposedly drained of their blood. This drone footage,
Speaker 2: So it's a much higher, but it's near Auru City
Speaker 2: and you definitely see like a shadowy figure kind of
Speaker 2: moving through the field. And uh, I mean it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's not as kind of clear clearly werewolf be looking
Speaker 2: as the other one. But again, it was just another
Speaker 2: recent thing. And you know, both of these could be
Speaker 2: people screwing around with people. It could be dressing up
Speaker 2: like what they think of Chupacabra looks like exactly.
Speaker 1: So I mean Chupacabra, it's a fairly you can tell
Speaker 1: it's a fairly recent phenomenon. I mean, the nineties really
Speaker 1: are when it started to take off, and definitely it's heyday,
Speaker 1: but it is found itself cemented into popular culture, not
Speaker 1: just in Latin America, but in the Southwestern United States too.
Speaker 1: There's been sightings apparently and everywhere from Arizona to New Mexico,
Speaker 1: all over the southwestern United States over the years, and
Speaker 1: apparently the earliest, the earliest newspaper account of it dates
Speaker 1: back to the fifties in Arizona, which I found very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And I've said to put a pin
Speaker 2: in the fact that some people say they have glowing
Speaker 2: alien like eyes. That's because some people think, you know,
Speaker 2: there of course theories on what could be going on here.
Speaker 2: Some people do think that it's a visitor from outer space,
Speaker 2: or maybe a pet from a visitor from outer space.
Speaker 2: I can you know, like et was left behind, just
Speaker 2: like this chew picabra was, or that it is like
Speaker 2: NASA was breeding like alien things with human things, and
Speaker 2: this was one of those that got out. Supposedly, sure
Speaker 2: as they do.
Speaker 1: There's a veterinarian who believes that it was a genetically
Speaker 1: modified vampire bat because I don't remember it supposedly as
Speaker 1: a bloodsucker, a goat sucker in particular. I believe because
Speaker 1: of the fact that this was biggest in the nineties,
Speaker 1: I think that whole left behind alien pet is it
Speaker 1: was folklore directly influenced by porno for pyros.
Speaker 2: Oh from the pet song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from Will Make Great Pets.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great song. But I guarantee somebody added
Speaker 1: that to the folklore from that song.
Speaker 2: Oh, so it was a future human that was kept
Speaker 2: as a pet.
Speaker 1: No, No, just the concept that aliens even have pets. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm linking it too, could have been a
Speaker 1: future human. That's the thing. Everybody's just throwing anything that
Speaker 1: can stick at the wall, at the whole cup oficabra phenomenon.
Speaker 1: It Again, it's fairly recent enough that it hasn't taken
Speaker 1: full solid shape. Still, it seems like to me you
Speaker 1: can say, oh, it's a genetically modified vampire bat or whatever.
Speaker 1: The best explanation I've seen. You kind of already touched
Speaker 1: on about carcasses washed up on the beach being dogs
Speaker 1: having mange. Coyotes get mange too, and coyotes tend to
Speaker 1: kill live stock. Yeah, if they're from the circus, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The telltale signed to me though, is that part of
Speaker 1: mange is the hair on the back between the shoulders
Speaker 1: usually remains a patch of hair. Yes, hence the spikes
Speaker 1: of spines down well the spine and the fact that
Speaker 1: they lose their hair so they look really weird. And
Speaker 1: apparently just about every single carcass that's ever turned up
Speaker 1: and has been attributed or chalked up as chupacabra and
Speaker 1: the autopsy is revealed it's an animal with mange. Well done,
Speaker 1: my friend, Thank you. Well done to you too, Charles.
Speaker 2: I just want to say one more thing. I had
Speaker 2: tickets to see that porner. For Pyro's reunion tour last year,
Speaker 2: you were one of ten got canceled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they couldn't sell enough tickets, right, That's what
Speaker 1: I heard. Surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jane's Addiction is on tour again, and I
Speaker 2: love those guys. I just want to publicly say give
Speaker 2: credit to Casey Nikolee for her work and if.
Speaker 1: The one who was erased from their.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their history basically great, great call out. Yeah, go
Speaker 2: read up about that because she's talking about it now
Speaker 2: and it's not cool at all.
Speaker 1: I also want to give a shout out. If this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is up your alley or float your
Speaker 1: boat or float your alley or whatever, go check out
Speaker 1: the site and not The Anomalist. It's an aggregator of
Speaker 1: different weird stories, including cryptids and UFOs and all that
Speaker 1: stuff from around the internet. It's great. Check out The Anomalist.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, since Chuck said fun, I mean short stuff, friends
Speaker 1: is out.
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