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In a move that is sending fear throughout the NFL, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: the Jets just signed Geno Smith backward all started. 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: Hey Geno Smith, just help the Raiders get Fernando Mendoza. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: All right, he's gonna help the Jets get Arch Manning. 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Let's not listen. I wish him well. All these guys 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: that full it's a flat circle, all these guys that 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: are moving around the league, and they go back to 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: where they started. I'm happy for him. Good for him, 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: all right. Matt Hasselbeck eighteen NFL seasons. I got so 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: many questions to ask him, so I have for years 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: and years I have argued with, not argued, but debated 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: with NFL people that the center is the most underrated 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: position in football. It's, first of all, it's academic and physical. 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: It's calling your audibles and if you have an inexperienced quarterback. 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson in Chicago got this. Nothing can be a 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: better friend to Caleb than you know, Drew Dolman. So 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: to me, my favorite pick trade free agent signing is 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, who, after Creed Humphrees, maybe the best center 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: in football. So you tell me, what does a center, 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: a veteran center, I think he is now he counts 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: as a veteran four or five years in the league. 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: What does that do for a rookie quarterback like Mendoza. 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you nailed it, Colin. And it's not only a 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: veteran center, it's a veteran center that's played it with 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: a great program with an elite MVP caliber quarterback like 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: he gets it. And you know, I just speaking from 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: experience as a young quarterback. Some of the hardest things 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: to do are in past protection, in audibles at the 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, third down, and you rely so much 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: on the guy in front of you, the guy snapping 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: you the ball. He's not only the leader of the 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: offensive line, he's the leader of the huddle before you 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: step into the huddle. You know, I remember when I 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: first got traded to Seattle. We had a veteran center 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: there named Robbie Tobek. He was the leader of our team. 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: Not a household name, but he was the leader of 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 4: our team. And when I stepped into that huddle, everybody 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 4: shut up and they were listening to me because he 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: got him ready for me stepping into that huddle. Like 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: I'm grateful for that. So what the New England Patriots 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 4: did with Garrett Bradbury last year, you know, Drake May's 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: first year starting, they give him a you know, maybe 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: not as physically talented as a blocker, but a leader 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: up there so Drake can focus on kind of growing 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: and learning as a quarterback. Now in year two, they 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: don't need him. They trade him and they're going to 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: move a young player into center. But I think it's 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: very underrated. 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: So I understood the same Ravens going after for Max 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Crosby because nobody the last five years had blown more 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: fourth quarter leads. And I've said this about Max Crosby, 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Matt is that with the Raiders, they trail in the 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, so Max Crosby doesn't get that many sack opportunities. 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: The Ravens lead in the fourth quarter, the Bills lead 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter the Rams lead. So spending money 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: even over spending a little bit on a rush end 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: for a team that leads eighty percent of the time 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: late in games, I'm going to I'm all for that. 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I think Max Crosby was wasted. Still highly productive, but 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of wasted in Vegas last two years. Now there 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: are those that think that's too much first round picks, 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: kind of expensive. Where are you on Max to the Ravens. 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: Well, look what the market said. I mean there were 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: other teams in play for this. I think the Seattle 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: Seahawks would have done this deal. They just didn't have 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: as sexy a first round picks to give away because 74 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: they're such a good team. Now, I think, listen, Max 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: Crosby has the respect of the NFL players, teammates, opponents, coaches, scouts, everybody. 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: And he's not a one trick pony. A lot of 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: these guys that come up with all these sacks, they're 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: great at rushing the passer, they're not great against the run. 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 4: This dude's the real deal in every way. I mean, 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: he's always at the top of the list TFLs tackles 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: for loss in the run game. You know, when we 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: would play against the guy that was just trying to 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: get sacks, he'd run right at him. You know, he's 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: kind of a liability to the team defense. There's nothing 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: like that with Max Crosby. He's the real deal in 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: the run game, the past game, on the field, off 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 4: the field, an identity cetter. You know, he's a dog. 88 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: That's a big get. I don't think it's too much 89 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: compensation at all. 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Okay, j Mack disagrees with me. I don't think you 91 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: need to see anymore with Malik Willis. I mean, Jeff 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Hafley's practiced against him for two years and he's like, 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: get me that guy. I think that stuff matters. I 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: know he's only got six starts, but every time I've 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: watched him, I feel like I get the same guy, 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: athletic compose. I mean he obviously halfly practiced again, he 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: saw his work ethic. Your thoughts on that move, well, 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. 99 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: I mean, who your quarterback is is a big deal. 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: Jeff Haffley learned that the hard way when he was 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: the head coach at Boston College. Never quite got the 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: quarterback right. And it's it's a thing. So he knows 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: how important it is getting the quarterback. Right with that 104 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: being said, you mentioned it only six games, but Jeff 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: Hafley got to see him every single day, every single day, 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: pretending to be the opponent's starting quarterback. You know, I 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: spent three years backing up Brett Favre in Green Bay, 108 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: and you know, while I was in that offense, that 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: Mike Holmgren offense that you know was carried, you know, 110 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: from coach to coach. Similar here with the Lafleur offense. 111 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: The defensive coaches, I feel like I won them over 112 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: before I won the offensive coaches over because they saw 113 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: me every day. And so I think it's a similar 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: situation with Malik. I think Malik is a guy that 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: scouts have kind of, you know, not been in love with. 116 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: Maybe offensive coaches in his career have been like slow love. 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: His college coach, you know, threw him under the bus 118 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 4: pre draft. You know, there's some of that kind of stuff. 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: But these defensive coaches, they say, you know what, this 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: guy's humble, he's hard working. On Dame Day, he plays 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: the way that I see him play every day in practice, 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: and he's coachable. And I'll take that, And I think 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: that's what Jeff Afflee and company see in Maleik and 124 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: you know he also comes at the right price. So 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: put me in the group of people that thinks this 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: is another young quarterback that was developed in Green Bay. 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: He's twenty six years old. His best football is in 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: front of him. 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you a move that I like the player, 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: but I don't get the move. The Niners are old 131 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: in division. The Rams and Seahawks have better rosters and 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: are much younger. And we've seen the Rams in recent 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: years and the Seahawks play the Niners and they look younger. 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: So I like Mike Evans, but you got Trent Williams 135 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: and Kittle and McCaffrey and Bosa, and there's some injuries 136 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans who is dinged up last year. I 137 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: can like the player, but question the move. What do 138 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: you make of it? 139 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: I think the. 140 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: Forty nine ers are probably surprised that Mike Evans wants 141 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: to go there as well a little bit. I mean, 142 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: he's probably taken less money to leave Florida to go 143 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: play in California on a team, Like you said, that's 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: a tough division. But he's a dog and he produces, 145 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: and I think if you look in that division in 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: this kind of Kyle Shanahan offense. What you know, he 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: you know, think back to what he did with Julio 148 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: Jones when he was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Like, 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: that's the vision for it, kind of what McVeigh has 150 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: done with DeVante Adams in the red zone with Seattle 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: Seahawks have done with JSN. We can make you a 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: part of this system that helps us with our running 153 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: back Christian McCaffrey, with our tight end game, and then 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: in the red zone you can be a thousand yard 155 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: receiver with a you know, a ton of double digit touchdowns. 156 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Like I think it fits, and I think for Mike Evans, 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: he's probably like, hey, I'm chasing a ring here. It's 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: not so much about the money. I'm chasing a ring 159 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: and relevance. Sometimes when you play on one of these 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: teams like Tampa it's not a huge market, you kind 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: of feel a little bit forgotten, and you know now 162 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: here you are in San fran kind of one of 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: the premier organizations in the NFL, prime time quite a bit. 164 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: I think there's just an excitement as a player there. 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: I get the age thing, but it's a good quarterback 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: a good team, and I think there's a lot of 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: guys out there that would just love to play for 168 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan. Seems like Mike Evans is one of them. 169 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of people push back on Travis Kelcey, 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: but my take is he had allver eight hundred yards. 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Nobody else in the team had over six hundred, and 172 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they've missed on a lot of receivers. Sky Moore, Nicole Hardman, 173 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown gets stinged up. Rashid Rice is talented but 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of immature. Javier Worthy's talented, but he's a gadget guy. 175 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Take me to your career, the comfort level with the 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: oldest receiver or skill player you ever played with. And 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I feel like when Brady went down to Tampa, he 178 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: got on the phone with Gronk and he's like, dude, 179 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I just I'd like, there's a comfort level with quarterbacks, 180 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: and take me to it. Why you think Mahomes probably 181 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: pounded the table for Travis Kelcey. 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's just Mahomes, I mean it 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: for sure it is. I mean, you see what Aaron 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: Rodgers does every year trying to get his buddies back 185 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: together because he understands them, they understand each other. There's 186 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: like a there's a there's a chemistry there that just 187 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: can't be built overnight, especially with these offseasons. But no, 188 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Fame player who didn't have a 189 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame year last year, And so I think 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: if there's a you know that look you in the 191 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: eye kind of thing, like, hey, are you willing to 192 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: put everything on the line for one more run at this? 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: Like one more job kind of like a I don't 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: want to say Ocean's eleven because I don't think they're 195 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: that old, but like, let's get to let's get the 196 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: band back together for one more run. Last job we 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: did last year that wasn't it missed the mark, you know, 198 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: But like there's so much more that Travis Kelce brings 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: to the table that you're not going to find in 200 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: the box score, in the statu sheet, you know, on 201 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: the field, off the field, But guy, dare you go 202 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: try to watch the Kansas City Chiefs offense and watch 203 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: their cutups and try to tell me, like what the 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: tight end was supposed to do on that play. Because 205 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: Kelsey does whatever he wants to do and within the 206 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: framework of the offense in Mahomes is with him. But 207 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: to think that this is going to be the same 208 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: exact looking offense you got Eric the enemy back, I 209 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: think it's going to be you know, you got the 210 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: big running back and Kenneth Walker. I think it's going 211 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: to be a run first team and using Travis Kelcey 212 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: situationally in the third downs in the red zone, and 213 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: being a little bit smarter about it so that he 214 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: is a little bit more productive than he was last year. 215 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: You were at the combine, did you hear some of 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: these rumors that have transpired? 217 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: Of course. I mean that people think the combines for workouts, like, no, 218 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 4: it's for pre agency. It's like the pre free agency, 219 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: like all the talks who's going to go where, what's 220 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: the money going to be? You know, who are you 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: going to franchise, who you're not going to franchise, who's 222 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: getting a transition tag. It kind of sets the table 223 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: for the real meal that is free agency that ends 224 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: up being you know what happens in the draft, you 225 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: know all that kind of stuff. 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Please subscribe, rate and review Stu Godsen Company 247 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 5: and god Bless Football Taylor's livelihood depends on it. 248 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 4: You do it today and you could. 249 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 5: Check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 250 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 251 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I saw a story that the Raiders, not necessarily they 252 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: may not start. Fernando Mendoza, you know, like Flacco's name 253 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: was out there, and could you bring in a veteran 254 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: just for a year, How does that land for you? 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. I'm absolutely fine with that. Look 256 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: at the quarterbacks that have had just incredible careers, Aaron Rodgers, 257 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. They did not start their first year. 258 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: You know, I certainly did not. I started my fourth 259 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: year back to Brett Farv for three years. I would 260 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: have failed if had I had to play earlier than that. 261 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, he was at the combine not throwing. Spent 262 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: a lot of time with him, loved everything about him. 263 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: But at the same time, if you were saying to me, 264 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: what would be the best thing for his career, Yeah, listen, 265 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: maybe watching Joe Flacco start for the Raiders for an 266 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 4: entire season might be the best thing for the Raiders. 267 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: It might be the best thing for his career. And then, 268 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: you know, you've heard Tom Brady talk a lot about it, 269 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: talk about it a lot about what Drew Bledsoe meant 270 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: to his career, watching Drew be a pro, watching Drew's 271 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: process of leadership and how he prepared how he dealt 272 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: with injuries, how he dealt with the media, you know, 273 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. So I would not be 274 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: against that at all. 275 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck eighteen NFL seasons. Love having them on the show. 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Good see Anyboddy? 277 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: All right, Collin, see Buddy. 278 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I love this stuff. Diana Russini Matt Hasselbeck stop by 279 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: the show today for some contextualization of what we've seen. 280 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles have had a weird last several months, coaching hires, 281 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: defensive players, leaving, a coach retiring. Howie Roseman has gone 282 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Bermuda Triangle. He just disappeared. I have no idea where 283 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: he's at. But the good news for the Jets, Gino 284 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: is coming back. Can can't come home again? Maybe with 285 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: the Jets you can. Jmack with the news. 286 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. 287 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: I love the glee you have for Geno and the Jets. 288 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: These jokes right themselves. Let's get started with Max Crosby. 289 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: Two x Crosby. The big trade over the weekend goes 290 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: from the Raiders. 291 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 7: To the Ravens. I don't know if you saw this. 292 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: Colin Crosby posted a thirteen minute goodbye video on social media, 293 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: really thirteen minutes. Here's part of his message to Vegas fans. 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 8: I feel like I left, you know, everything I had 295 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 8: on the table for this team. I've given my heart 296 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 8: and soul and I feel like I let y'all down, man. 297 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: But for the time being, it's a new day. 298 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 8: I'm going to Baltimore Block Nation, everybody in the whole 299 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 8: city of Baltimore. I got a lot to learn. Everything 300 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 8: is going to be new to me, and I'm excited. 301 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I think, and I watched that video Max Crosby is. 302 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: When I watched the video, I thought his passion, his appreciation, 303 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: that is why certain guys feel like soul of the 304 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: franchise guys, and he loves the Raiders as much as 305 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: fans love the Raiders. But when I watched that video, 306 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, and I think a lot with 307 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Max is because his life's been turbulent and difficult. He 308 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: is so grateful and so humble for the life that 309 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: for the record he's created. He was a fourth round pick. 310 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: So I just I gotta tell you, he may be 311 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: my favorite NFL player now that Brady's retired. He may 312 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: be my favorite NFL player. 313 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I know it seems like I don't love Crosby. 314 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: You know, we had some beef over whether he was 315 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: top five and he called me out on the show. 316 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: I find myself very similar to him. 317 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: Underdogs overcome adversity, rise to the top of Oarber. 318 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 7: I like Max Crosby. I just wonder, Colin. 319 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: They asked me this morning, do you see Crosby helping 320 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: the Ravens get. 321 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 7: Back to the playoffs. 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: Have you looked at the depth chart or the opponents 323 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: this season? Have you looked at Lamar's salary? Have you 324 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: looked at the skill position play Like, I don't think 325 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: I could give the Ravens the seal of approval that 326 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: they're going back to the playoffs. They're not as bad 327 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: as the Chiefs. But have you taken an in depth 328 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: look at their roster yet? 329 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean they had six Pro Bowlers. They've got 330 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: talent they always draft and everybody should do or made 331 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. 332 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 7: We got to stop using that as a metric. 333 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team that gave up two 334 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: firsts for Max. They mortgage their future hoping to get 335 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: all in this year. I mean, if you start breaking 336 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: down the AFC contenders. Are they a top five team 337 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: in the AFC? 338 00:16:52,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Comp Buffalo, New England, Denver. I think we both like 339 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Houston, Baltimore. I think they're on the cusp 340 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: of it. They're in that five six spot. 341 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: And you can't at the same time absolutely love Your 342 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: best free agent move is linderbond to the Raiders and 343 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: not say that that's an enormous. 344 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Hole for the Mars Jackson. It is. 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 4: It is. 346 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 7: So I'm just I know I got some Ravens buddies. 347 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 7: My brother lives in that area. Like they all go 348 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 7: to Ravens games. 349 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's a great organization, great organization. 350 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 7: This could be a tough year ahead. 351 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: And this negotiation for Lamar that's the next big story 352 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: after free Well, the. 353 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: Good news is Cleveland is in the division. 354 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: That's great news. 355 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 7: But Pittsburgh has done some things. They did some things yesterday. 356 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: But if Will Howard starts, you're good. 357 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 7: I mean Metcas and Pittman, Dowdell and the other back. 358 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 7: They got Warren. I like that. I don't know about 359 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: the offensive line. 360 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: We'll see. 361 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: Let's move on to Kenneth Walker, Colin and the Chiefs. 362 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: That big deal three years up to forty five million 363 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: dollars again a report that it is the richest free 364 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: agent deal for a running back. 365 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 7: In NFL history. 366 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: That's going to Kenneth Walker, who, by the way, in 367 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: December was viewed as a backup, a change of pace 368 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: guy to Zach Charbonnay, I'll just put that out there. 369 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 7: It feels weird Brett Veitch buying at the top of 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 7: the market on Kenneth Walker. 371 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's a terrible running back draft. The Chiefs are 372 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: telling you Jeremiah Love's not going to be available. 373 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: Fine, you go get the price the second Notre Dame 374 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: running back at at the end of the draft. 375 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: When he's not, he's there's a big gap between Jeremiah 376 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: Loves and the second best. 377 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: They went to a Super Bowl with Pacheco the seventh 378 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: rounder as. 379 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: They much deeper team then. Also true, but they what 380 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: they really need is a right tackle, and I think 381 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: they're going to land potentially the best second best offensive 382 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: lineman of the draft and the best right tackle. So 383 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: now Kenneth Walker, right tackle Rashi Rice is now healthy, 384 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: that that solves too. And if Simmons plays, because he 385 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: was good when he played last year and he didn't 386 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: late I think they solved running back, right tackle. I 387 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: think they solve a lot of their issues offensively. 388 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 7: I love your optimism, my friend. 389 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: Final story, Let's go back to the World Baseball Classic. 390 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: US beat Mexico last night. Paul Skeens had a really 391 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: good game for scoreless innings. Homers from Judge and Roman 392 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: Anthony helped build the lead US three and. 393 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Zero and pool play. 394 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: So Aj Persinsky was on the show Friday, while you 395 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: were gallivanting across America having fun. AJ Persinski said, all 396 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: the pressure was on Captain America. 397 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: Here we go, Aaron Judge Captain America. 398 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: Right. 399 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 6: He's had a history of not being great in the 400 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: postseason until last year. We'll see if he can do it. 401 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 6: He figured something out in the postseason last year. USA listen, 402 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 6: if you had any if you had to make a bet, 403 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 6: I would always pick the USA just because of their lineup. 404 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 6: But it's a one game tournament. Once you get past 405 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 6: the group sage. If you lose one, you're out in 406 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: the pitch. You can only go five. Like Paul Skins 407 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 6: in the semifinals. If he pitches, that can only go 408 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 6: five innings and you're counting on relievers to all be good, 409 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: same for the other team. So it's tough because it's 410 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 6: a one and out situation. 411 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: Boy, I like to think, I know college basketball betting. 412 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: Did you his breakdown almost nailed the entire game, Aaron Judge, 413 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: how far is Paul Skiing's gonna go bull Then we'll see. 414 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 7: Like all of it happened. 415 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, I like I like the fact I love how 416 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: much clearly Cal Rawley of the Mariners. You see what 417 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: he did to his teammate. He wouldn't give him the 418 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: high five, you wouldn't give him the fist bump. I 419 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: love how competitive and how much these games mean to 420 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: guys that are worth one hundred million plufs. Look At 421 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: how much it means for Aaron Judge plays for the Yankees. 422 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: He's been to a World Series. Look at how much 423 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: it means to beat Mexico. That's why when I watch 424 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: these hockey guys, these professional hockey guys playing Canada, it's 425 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: like you think it was Game seven of the Stanley Cump. 426 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, people with all these athletes 427 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: and they all make all this money. I'm telling you, 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I've watched hockey guys in baseball, guys in these international competitions. 429 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: They are all in on this stuff. They're a pretty 430 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: like it to play. Look at this Cal Rawly will 431 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: not acknowledge his teammate. 432 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty cool. 433 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: It reminds me you remember in the Olympics, Steph Curry 434 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: going to. 435 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: Nuclear against France. 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Feels like a really good two can be 468 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: a little inconsistent, can disappear, you know, has some drops. 469 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: But Romeo Dobbs a good player. He's a very good player. 470 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: He's either a really low end one or an exceptionally 471 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: high two, kind of a Michael Pittman. Feel like he's 472 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: either one of the better twos in the league, so 473 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I think, and Drake May likes to throw the ball 474 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: down the field, and Dobbs has really good speed so 475 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: he can move. So that's a nice pick up for 476 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: New England. And I think Elijah Vera Tucker Again, the 477 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: old line in the Super Bowl was pretty obviously was 478 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: the weakness. So Elijah Verra Tucker moves in. I wouldn't 479 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: be shocked if they don't. New England goes and gets 480 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: another tackle in this draft. But you can see what 481 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: they're attacked. They're attacking a position of need wide receiver. 482 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: They want to get Drake mayhelp. The New England Patriots 483 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: are spending money to help Drake May smart. That's what 484 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the Bears did, Caleb Williams. That's what the Raiders are 485 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: doing by getting Tyler Linderbaum for Fernando Mendoza. So the 486 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: smart teams figured out draft the quarterback and get him help, 487 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: get him confident, keep him up right, get him weapons. 488 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: That's what New England's doing. It does feel like in 489 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: free agency you get a lot of number two receivers 490 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: getting paid like number one receivers. One. Del Robinson with 491 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: the Giants good good. Number two ish, he's now going 492 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: to Tennessee getting paid like a one. But I always 493 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: feel like the Titans always feel like their wide receiver 494 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: light that never have enough wide receivers. There's also there's 495 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: also an interesting Daniel Jeremiah, somebody very well connected. He 496 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: just made a little bit of a He put it 497 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: out there. Would the Rams, who have moved off a 498 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: first round pick and a third, a fifth and a sixth, 499 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: a third next year to get Trent McDuffie, would they 500 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: move up again in this draft to get Jeremiah loved 501 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: the running back. You'd probably have to move up two 502 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: or three spots to get. But my take, and I 503 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: think Daniel's very bright. They've got Blake Korham, Kayan Williams. 504 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Tyron Williams. I'm not sure they need 505 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: another running back. But I also think by going out 506 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: and getting McDuffie and Watson from the Chiefs is listen, 507 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: they've already got a Super Bowl title with Stafford mcveab, 508 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: already been to one and lost with goff. I kind 509 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: of feel like the Rams are saying, you know, you 510 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: guys can go get quarterbacks next year. Stafford's our guy 511 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: for two years and we're gonna load up this roster. 512 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: So my take on what the Rams are gonna do 513 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: with their first pick, my take is if they would 514 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: move up, they'd want to right tackle, because I don't 515 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: feel when you have an older quarterback, that's what worries me. 516 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: So I don't see him moving up for a running back. 517 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: I could see him moving up for Bono, that right 518 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: tackle from Utah, who is probably the best pure tackle 519 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. We'll see. I also love the move 520 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: by Miami to get Malik Willis, and Matt Hasselbeck came 521 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: on earlier. Jmack didn't love the move, but Hasselbeck brings 522 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: up an interesting point on Jeff Hafley, the new Dolphins 523 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: coach from Green Bay, really seeing something the two years 524 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: he was in Green Bay watching Elie Willis. 525 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: Jeff Hafley got to see him every single day, every 526 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 4: single day, pretending to be the opponent's starting quarterback. You know, 527 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: I spent three years backing up Brett Favre in Green Bay. 528 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: The defensive coaches, I feel like I won them over 529 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: before I won the offensive coaches over because they saw 530 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: me every day and so I think it's a similar 531 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: situation with Malik. But these defensive coaches, they say, hey, 532 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: you know what, this guy's humble, he's hard working on 533 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: game day, he plays the way that I see him 534 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: play every day in practice, and he's coachable. And I'll 535 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: take that. And I think that's what Jeff Hafflee and 536 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: company see in Malik. And you know, he also comes 537 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: at the right price. 538 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Something to remember, four of the last seven Super Bowls 539 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a team has made the Super Bowl that did not 540 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: make the playoffs the previous year. Last year, both the 541 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Patriots didn't make the playoffs the previous year. 542 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: In fact, the Patriots were awful and made the Super Bowl. 543 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: So you know, you think it's crazy. I think the 544 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: Raiders are absolutely fascinating. I think they've nailed free agency. 545 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, Nailer the wide receiver, re signing Stokes, just 546 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, we can put them up 547 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: for our TV Audien, just a lot of little improvements. 548 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: And now they have two first round picks. I would 549 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: not be shocked. So they went and got Tyler Linderbaum 550 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: at center. They have jpj who they drafted out of 551 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Oregon at right guard. I wouldn't be surprised if they 552 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: didn't draft the Penn State guard with their second first 553 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: round pick, the fourteenth pick, and just get their guard 554 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: center guard set for the next five years. That's what 555 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: the Bears did. I wouldn't be surprised that. What's really 556 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: fascinating about the Raiders is that second first round pick, 557 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: number fourteen, and if you look at who falls there, 558 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: it would be the second best corner, second best wide receiver, 559 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: which they need. So what the need to help Fernando 560 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Mendoza is very available at that fourteenth pick. Boy, this 561 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: this tree did say what you want about this draft. 562 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: But I'm just fascinated in the teams. I think for 563 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, I am watching 564 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: some of these dreadful teams over the last ten years drafting, 565 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: and I think they could make massive jumps. I think 566 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Giants and the Titans are all 567 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: interesting teams to keep your eye on. 568 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 7: Interesting. 569 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 3: Regarding the Titans, we'll start with them at four. So 570 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw they got Wondale Robinson right. Brian 571 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: Dable gets a guy he coached last year. He's a 572 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: solid number two. 573 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Giants tried to keep him. They like him, they did. 574 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked good last year when Natives went down. 575 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, the Titans don't have a one Kevin Ridley. 576 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: It seems like read between the lines, it looks like 577 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: he's gone. My guess is the. 578 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 7: Titans are really looking at the kid from Ohio State, 579 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 7: Carnell Tate. 580 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got four So if they take him, what 581 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: are the Giants do at five? 582 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 7: Colin? 583 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: They just picked up right tackle. Interesting, So Jeremiah Love 584 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: then is still on the board. The Browns. I can't 585 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: imagine that analytically based front office is going running back 586 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: at six. 587 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 7: So that's why I think Daniel j Giants seven. 588 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: Giants are interesting. It's not a good tight end draft, 589 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: so the Giants go out and get the tight end 590 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: lively from the rave yp it is a good offensive 591 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: tackle draft. Well, what do the Giants need? A tackle? 592 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: So this is setting up nicely for the Giants. Their 593 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: their big need is a right tackle and a tight end. Offensively, well, 594 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: they just bought the tight end, and tight ends a 595 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: weird position where even if you're a good tight end 596 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: out of college. Now, Loveland and Warren were exceptional out 597 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: of college. 598 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 7: The Oregon kid is good, right, I mean. 599 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna go He won't go five. 600 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I think he ends up going I think I think 601 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens and well, they give up their first round pick, 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: so they're not getting him. 603 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost two tight ends by the way, Kolar 604 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: is going to the Chargers and Mark Andrews is their 605 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: only tight end and he's getting a little long in 606 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: the tooth after losing likely to. 607 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I could see the Giants either taking Spencer final from Utah. 608 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: I could absolutely see that. Or there's two or three 609 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: offensive tackles late first round, another one from Utah. I 610 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: could see the Giants. I've said this before. I can 611 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: see the Giants trading down. 612 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, but who's trading up? What are you going 613 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 7: up to? Five to four? You've beating the Browns. 614 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: To Like, this isn't a traight up draft except for 615 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love. 616 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: If somebody Yeah, so I'm saying, if somebody really wants 617 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love. 618 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 7: I mean, there isn't. I don't think you trade up 619 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 7: for a receiver in the top sex. Even a running 620 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 7: back feels like a stretch. 621 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: But if he's your last piece to the puzzle listen, 622 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: Raiders got genty. 623 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 7: He wasn't the last piece. That was a bad pick 624 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 7: at the time. 625 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Right, Well, the Giants are going to and this is 626 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: what the Bears did. They're going to try to make 627 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: life easier for Jackson Dart So Neighbors is a good receiver, 628 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: but he gets stinged up. I could see the Giants saying, 629 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: let's get Carnell Tait so lively from the Ravens. Carnell 630 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Tait Neighbors comes back and then with their second pick. 631 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: It's a good tackle draft. The Giants eventually go get 632 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: a tackle. 633 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: When are you going to do a Newton next Mont draft? 634 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: But this week or probably wait till two weeks from now. 635 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, because I mean, we're still waiting on 636 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. There's a lot of guys out there. 637 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: We'll not changing anything. 638 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 7: What do you mean you don't think he's better than 639 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 7: two ones? You know Smith and they're off the board. 640 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but those guys aren't, you know. 641 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, did you see Arizona is 642 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: good rolling with Jacoby Brissett and some other guy Like 643 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Kyler not having a market as a shocker. 644 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 7: That was your boy. You guys are hanging out a UFC. 645 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: Fight if you have commitment issues, and that's that's Kyler. 646 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: That scares off a lot of NFL general managers.