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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick shot

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Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And oh what a Tuesday. It is

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Speaker 1: inside the s WBC Mortgage studios at Ford Center, at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco and elsewhere Bill Jones with Everson

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Speaker 1: Walls and Mickey Spagnola. And you know what day this is?

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Speaker 1: I do know what? Anybody have any idea? This is

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Speaker 1: what day is this? Mickey Spagnola. This is Chris Beam's birthday,

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Speaker 1: January twelfth. January twelfth, It's Chris Beam, our producer's birthday today.

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Speaker 1: How about that, a fellow Capricorn, I had no idea. Yeah, Christopher,

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Speaker 1: and he's working. He's working on his birthday. He's in fact,

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Speaker 1: he is working this show. That's why this show will

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Speaker 1: come out flawlessly, because Chris Beam is at the controls,

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Speaker 1: although he will not show himself on mix shots for

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Speaker 1: some reason. And for some reason he won't. And Bill,

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Speaker 1: you want to know a strange oddity and why I

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Speaker 1: remember this because no, why is that his birthday is

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Speaker 1: the same day as my sisters and his brother and

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Speaker 1: his brother's birthday rich is on the same day as

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Speaker 1: mine in December. That wow, Now the years are a

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Speaker 1: little different. But and of course rich in that scouting

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Speaker 1: department has done yeoman work for so many years for

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Speaker 1: this team and it's a rather busy time. Well, any

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Speaker 1: time of the year is a busy time of the

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Speaker 1: year for a Cowboys scout, but especially this time of

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Speaker 1: the year, and especially with what they're going to be

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Speaker 1: dealing with leading up to the draft. How much has

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Speaker 1: happened though ever since since the last time we talked

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Speaker 1: a week ago, well, I have been solely disappointed. Once again,

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Speaker 1: I did not get the defensive coordinator's job for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I threw my name in the hat, but

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Speaker 1: it was the wrong hat. That's why I didn't get

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Speaker 1: the job. So the way it goes, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: amazing how much happens in the first week the offseason

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Speaker 1: and it just jump starts. Uh. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: Mickey that especially well, I think for NFL fans a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, this time of the year gets them

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Speaker 1: riled up as much as any time of the year

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Speaker 1: because you're trying to fix your team now, and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have gone to work rather quickly and trying to

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Speaker 1: fix that defense. Yeah, and I think for the fans

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Speaker 1: out there, they everybody's a GM more so than a coach, right,

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Speaker 1: so they feel like they can run this thing. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was any surprise that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: cut ties with Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator. I

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Speaker 1: think we've probably seen that coming for quite some time,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine, you know, the Cowboys were I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was a thing, Oh, we got to

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. Now we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: look for a new defensive coordinator. I think they probably

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Speaker 1: had their eye on what was going on on other

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Speaker 1: staffs and who was gonna be available and who became available.

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Speaker 1: So I think this was probably pretty well thought out

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Speaker 1: before deciding yesterday to hire uh Dan Quinn as the

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Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator. Uh. They had had a virtual interview

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Speaker 1: with him on Sunday Blue, and then when you fly

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Speaker 1: you pretty much know what's getting ready to happen, right right, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not flying in for an interview. I

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Speaker 1: may not make it back home. So yeah, you make

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense back, Yeah, I'm flying in to

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Speaker 1: sign that contract. Yeah. Now you talking about being a

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Speaker 1: not being a head coach. Uh, that's what everyone was

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Speaker 1: talking about, you know on social media. I mean the guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a good head coach, but as a DC,

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Speaker 1: you know, he had some He's got some bones, you

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Speaker 1: and that Seattle Seahawk team was something that he's been

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Speaker 1: laying his hat off for quite some time. But there

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Speaker 1: at the same time, you look at what happened to

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Speaker 1: doesn't bode well. So I don't know, guys, it didn't.

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Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it took much thought. As much

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Speaker 1: as McCarthy is just trying to find a competent coordinator

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Speaker 1: he knows he knows Quinn because Quinn beat him on

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Speaker 1: So uh, kudos for him doing that. Also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he had beaten the Cowboys twice in a row and

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Speaker 1: his first year as a head coach thirty nine twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: and we will never forget twenty seventeen when they beat

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Speaker 1: didn't we And he made a lot of Actually he

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Speaker 1: just every year he just checked cash is another big

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Speaker 1: he'll be here with us next year. There. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know that's the way, as you know ever since, that's

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Speaker 1: talking about. It's not only with McCarthy, but so many coaches.

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Speaker 1: It's the guys they're familiar with that that they will hire.

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Speaker 1: if we come out this year, in another nickel defense

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Speaker 1: don't know what's the word I'm looking for. Uh, you know, traditional.

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Speaker 1: regards to stopping people. All this this unconventional defense, it

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Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys needed is somebody young to come in

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting like an understudy that he might

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Speaker 1: has a history with Mike McCarthy. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: add in that position. In Bill's right about Joe went

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Speaker 1: I think they will. I think they will. Also, you

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Speaker 1: Bowl run. That's right, that's right. Raheem was the interim

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Speaker 1: So he's been there the whole time uh that Quinn

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Speaker 1: let that play out before he might bring in a guy,

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Speaker 1: just think that the transition should be a lot easier

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Speaker 1: and I saw this note that you know they that

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Speaker 1: a very timely read Mickey Spagnola because it is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and so it's a constant reminder every Tuesday, we're going

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Speaker 1: to give you as long as the season lasts. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how long the season lasts, but maybe they

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'll be check it out Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock Central Time on cmt Okay. We mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the first segment Mickey Mike Nolan and wasn't a surprise

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Speaker 1: at all that he was let go on Friday. Also,

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Speaker 1: Jim tom Sula, defensive line coach, was let go, and

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Speaker 1: of course he was sort of a Nolan's right hand man.

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Speaker 1: They had a history together in San Francisco, So I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was surprising that tom Sula was also

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Speaker 1: let go on Friday. No, I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think probably some of it had

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Speaker 1: to go with the defensive coordinator deal. And and you know,

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Speaker 1: here's another thing that I think might have taken place.

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Speaker 1: You know, we heard about how they had exit interviews

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Speaker 1: with the players. Well, I think when you get to

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Speaker 1: that point and Everson, you correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I think when you get to that point in

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Speaker 1: the season, and Mike McCarthy made mention of, yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: done the exit interview with our team leaders, meaning the

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Speaker 1: defensive guys that they he considered their leaders, and I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing you know, when they got asked the question about

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Speaker 1: how things went, you'd be more likely to speak up

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Speaker 1: after the season than during the season, right And and

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think at some point you got

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Speaker 1: to listen to guys, and I would imagine, you know,

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Speaker 1: I bet Mike Nolan didn't get a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: pats on the back for the Bobby did from the players.

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Speaker 1: If you just go back and listen to what DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence had to say after the season in his last

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Speaker 1: press conference conference call, and he talked about how you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll you know, when you change things like that, it's

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Speaker 1: easy for a guy like me, but for young guys

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Speaker 1: it was hard to kind of get the concept right.

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Speaker 1: And then he went on to mention, he goes, and

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Speaker 1: I give Mike Nolan credit because he kind of changed

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Speaker 1: things towards the end and we started playing better. He said,

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Speaker 1: So Leasy was man enough to do that. So I

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Speaker 1: would imagine when he got asked a question, he probably

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Speaker 1: would have said the same thing to the owner that

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Speaker 1: he said to us. I tell you, Spats, I can count.

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Speaker 1: How can I put the postseason interviews back in the

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Speaker 1: eighties on one finger? That was practice back then? And

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Speaker 1: in what season was that? I really, when I say

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Speaker 1: one finger, I didn't have less than the fingers? Can

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Speaker 1: I say finger case you could get zero fingers. There

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Speaker 1: weren't no meetings that you know, you talk about post

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Speaker 1: meeting I don't. Once we were done, it was almost

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Speaker 1: like you got fired. We cleaned out a locker, and

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Speaker 1: we went home until the offseason workouts were scheduled to start.

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Speaker 1: So no, that was none of that. No, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell Tom. You're gonna tell Tom Landry, Hey, coach, Uh,

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Speaker 1: your flex wasn't working right. You know. As a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: I feel that I need more pressure on first down.

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Speaker 1: Forget playing the run. I want to play the pass

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Speaker 1: all the time. You know, let's let those horses go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if I could have told him that,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have. But I never ever was asked by

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Speaker 1: Tom Langer or anyone in the Cowboy organization what I

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Speaker 1: thought about the past season, and I wasn't the only one.

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Speaker 1: So Everson, let me ask you, this, is it better

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Speaker 1: now that the players that get input? Hell yeah, it's better.

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Speaker 1: It was better players should get as much love. I've

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Speaker 1: been fighting this fight that the players are you know,

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Speaker 1: succeeding at for over thirty years. I was a union rep.

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Speaker 1: I was out on the picket line by myself. Okay,

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Speaker 1: no one wanted to be out there with me. So

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Speaker 1: not only was it not the time that Cowboys was

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Speaker 1: at that time as well, even though we were boardering

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Speaker 1: on bankruptcy and things that nature, the Cowboys were still

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Speaker 1: the most powerful and popular team in all of sports,

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Speaker 1: even though we weren't winning. It just didn't have Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones there to up the prices on everything. That's all

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Speaker 1: it was. That's the only difference. So and I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Mickey. In fact, Mike McCarthy said that it's

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Speaker 1: when we take the coaches show that he was He

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Speaker 1: was inspired, I think was the word he used after

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Speaker 1: hearing what the players had to say. And I think

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Speaker 1: the other thing that comes into that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: the wheels could have got turning as far as the

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Speaker 1: input from the players before the Monday after the last

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Speaker 1: regular season game, but the Cowboys were still in it

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Speaker 1: all the way to the end, and so there was

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Speaker 1: never a time or place for it. If the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had been eliminated, you know, by Christmas, you know, a

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Speaker 1: week or so earlier, then those conversations could have been

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Speaker 1: had informally, you know, even before the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: But this team was still focused on doing what they

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Speaker 1: had to do to win football games. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's actually why it took until Friday before the obvious

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Speaker 1: happened and there was the change made. As far as

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator is concerned, and uh, you know, and

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Speaker 1: and as far as Mike Nolan is concerned, I think

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Speaker 1: if probably if he had it to do over again,

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Speaker 1: if he knew what was and wasn't being learned through

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Speaker 1: those offseason virtual obsessions, he probably would have taken a

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Speaker 1: different approach in the things that he did. But I

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Speaker 1: think that one of the biggest things, what Mickey you

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Speaker 1: talked about in the earlier segment is the fact that

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Speaker 1: they need to have a coaching philosophy on defense that

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Speaker 1: fits their personnel. And I believe the four three defense

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Speaker 1: would fit their personnel better than what we were seeing

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Speaker 1: this year, oh, you know, absolutely and especially you know,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with um you know from

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Speaker 1: the defensive front, you know, will Aldon Smith come back?

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Speaker 1: It sounded like they sort of liked what he did.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of um, you know, it comes

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Speaker 1: down to finances and somebody else might be really interested

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Speaker 1: in them. They still have the rights to Randy Gregory

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Speaker 1: Antoine Hoods would make the other restricted free agents, so

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Speaker 1: technically they could have his rights too. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing on Alden Smith is, you know Tom Sula had

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Speaker 1: him in San Francisco and so that was one of

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Speaker 1: the main reasons that Alden Smith was here to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Where does Tom Sula wind up? I mean, well, would

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Speaker 1: Alden Smith follow him wherever he goes? You know? So

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Speaker 1: there's so much that the fu we don't know is

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Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn and whoever the coaches are on this staff,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have a different opinion about players than

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Speaker 1: what the current what the twenty twenty coaching staff had,

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Speaker 1: and so it's hard to predict a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: about free agency right now. And they probably know what

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Speaker 1: those guys think. Is when you bring in guys like

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Speaker 1: that for interviews, You're you're picking tent guys brains, right,

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Speaker 1: even if you don't hire them, you're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out what do they know? What do they know about us?

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Speaker 1: Because I'll guarantee you when these guys get a call

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Speaker 1: for an interview, they don't just fly in and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. They do their homework. They probably started looking

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Speaker 1: at tape and knowing what the cowboys could do or

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Speaker 1: couldn't do, what the personnel was like. And even if

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Speaker 1: you don't hire them, I know that was one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why Jerry would love to interview six guys

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Speaker 1: for a head coaching job, just to pick their brain

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Speaker 1: and find out more about what somebody else thinks of

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Speaker 1: his team. And I would imagine this time around, you know,

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Speaker 1: with those other two guys, they probably were picking their

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Speaker 1: brain too, And who knows, you know, as you said, Bill,

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Speaker 1: one of them might be here. Let's let's go through this, guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's think what if? What if Andy Dalton doesn't

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Speaker 1: get a concussion in the Washington game and his continuity

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Speaker 1: continues to improve, you know, he gets more games, more

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Speaker 1: consecutive games under his belt, He hits the stride, sooner

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Speaker 1: during the season than he would have when he had

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Speaker 1: COVID on top of the concussion protocol. That is something

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Speaker 1: that has always run through my mind. Even though I

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Speaker 1: was kind of disappointed in his play in the last game,

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Speaker 1: he was feeling the pressure. Let's just be real, and

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Speaker 1: I don't mean five pressure. I think he was just

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Speaker 1: really feeling the pressure that he had put on himself.

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Speaker 1: But I think he would have gone past all of that.

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Speaker 1: If he would have continued to play without the interruption,

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Speaker 1: his improvement would have continued. Therefore, offensively, our improvement would

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Speaker 1: have continued. And let's be real, guys, as our offense

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Speaker 1: continued to improve, our defense also continue to capitalize off

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Speaker 1: of their successes. So if if fifty three Boston, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't commit that personal file, we're looking at possibly

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Speaker 1: an entirely different look on the Cowboys and maybe Mike

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Speaker 1: Nolan he still has a job, and the Cowboys swell, no,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't still be playing because they wouldn't have eaten

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They would have played Tampa they would have lost,

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Speaker 1: and then we would still up and saying, boy, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get them next year, you know, And then the

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Speaker 1: Nolan decision would have been made this week instead of

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Speaker 1: last week because you know what, and I understand how

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Speaker 1: the takeaways in those last games turn things around, but

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Speaker 1: they were still giving up gobs of yards, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean gobs. And they might have won some games, but

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Speaker 1: they're giving up four hundred yards total offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: at some point you to be able to stop people,

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Speaker 1: and you I know, you know, the turnovers are great,

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Speaker 1: getting those takeaways are great, but you can't count on

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Speaker 1: that to happen at that rate when you're giving up

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Speaker 1: that many yards. I mean, uh, go back and look

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Speaker 1: at the yardage they gave up against Baltimore. You know,

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Speaker 1: they kept talking about all the yards that they gained running,

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Speaker 1: uh in the in the playoff game with Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: just running buy people. But that happened against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: They gave up what was a two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: some yards rushing that game, if I remember correctly, And

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Speaker 1: they gave up that game as well, right, And they

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Speaker 1: gave up a bunch of yards to when they beat Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: they still gave up a bunch of yards. They were

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Speaker 1: giving up rushing yards left and right. They never really

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Speaker 1: slowed anybody down. So, and I agree that you know,

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Speaker 1: you can kind of if the offense is playing better

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Speaker 1: than the defense. Yeah, they you know, the teams have

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Speaker 1: got to start taking chances against you, and you have

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Speaker 1: a chance defensively. But boy, they just were not shutting

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Speaker 1: anybody down anytime that you can't stop the run. And

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Speaker 1: I am a living witness nineteen eighty five, hell, nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty three, anytime we saw Eric Dickerson, anytime we saw

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Speaker 1: Walter Peyton. You know, they always knew. As we got

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Speaker 1: older on our defensive line, that was the way we

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Speaker 1: were attacked. In the early eighties pads. They would come

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Speaker 1: at us with the past because you had Harvey Martin,

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Speaker 1: John Dutton too tall, and Randy Okay, so you're you're

648
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Speaker 1: not gonna try and run on those guys when the

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Speaker 1: flex defense is at its best in the early eighties.

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Speaker 1: But as we started to go into eighty five, eighty six,

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Speaker 1: eighty seven, the guys started to get a little bit older,

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Speaker 1: and the opposition started to realize that the flex was obsolete.

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Speaker 1: And so we're in the secondary. It's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're running the ball. They're running the ball.

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Speaker 1: They're running the ball and it's such a helpless feeling.

656
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: And I could feel that for the Boys this year,

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00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: all year long, when it seemed like we had to

658
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: make a play, we just couldn't. And it all came

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Speaker 1: from the run. Yeah, you know. And the thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me watching these playoff games all weekend,

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Speaker 1: watching six games, and I know it's probably not what

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Speaker 1: happened in all six games, but my takeaway from those

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Speaker 1: games watching them was Number One, the teams that ran

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: played well defensively they ended up winning. Because now your

666
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: offense doesn't have to score thirty points, doesn't have to

667
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: score forty points to be able to win a game.

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00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: And those were two of the Cowboys downfalls. They did

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Speaker 1: not run the ball effectively enough all season long, and

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00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: that had something to do with that offensive line that

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Speaker 1: they were playing with. And then from a defensive standpoint,

672
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: they just had trouble stopping people. And if you can't,

673
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Speaker 1: if you get into the playoffs and you can't stop anybody,

674
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Speaker 1: chances are you're gonna struggle. And I think that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: What happened, What happened with football, right, what happened with Cleveland. Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how good Cleveland was offensively, but boy,

677
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: they sure took advantage of everything that was handed to

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Speaker 1: him defensively. From the first snap of the narn game.

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Speaker 1: How about that? You know what that game reminded me of? It?

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of the Cowboys nineteen ninety four NFC

681
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: title game against San Francisco when they turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over the first three possessions in that game and fell

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00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: behind twenty one to nothing, and there was still seven

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first quarter and they nearly

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Speaker 1: caught up. Actually, what you saw this week, right, here's

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: the other part of that. Mickey Mickey who was turning

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Speaker 1: the ball over for the Cowboys in that game. It

688
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: were future Hall of famers turning the football over in

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Speaker 1: that game and in that Pittsburgh Cleveland game. It's a

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Speaker 1: future perhaps a future Hall of Fame center and Pouncy

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00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: on the first play of the game. And then the

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Speaker 1: quarterback right in the quarterbacks the future Hall of famer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know the other thing on that I

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Speaker 1: was just looking up. I wrote it down on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: The quarterbacks in the playoff games, and I'm struggling to

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Speaker 1: find it. But the numbers on the quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: in the playoff games over the weekend, the winning quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I believe, through a total of one interception in the

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Speaker 1: six games, and the losing quarterbacks it was around seven

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00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: or eight interceptions. And part of that is they're playing

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Speaker 1: from behind. They got to take more chances. But to

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00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: your point, Mickey, about being able to run the football,

703
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: and it's and it's such a complimentary thing between offense

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Speaker 1: and defense. If you can get ahead, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: it makes it so much easier on your quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, and some of those interceptions that

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Speaker 1: How about that the outs of linemen getting their hand

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Speaker 1: on the ball. Yeah, well a couple of them didn't

710
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: even go past the lines. It was they got it

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. He got the ball in the pocket.

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00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: That's the quarterbacks pocket. That's how it goes. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We need to look ahead

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Speaker 1: you get back in the off season, spags. Why the

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Speaker 1: Let me just make I'm relaxed now. Yeah, I tried.

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Speaker 1: He's got too much on his plate during the season,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, that stuff off his plate and

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Speaker 1: he can focus more. I didn't have. I found those

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: I found those numbers on the quarterbacks over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: In the six playoff games, the winning quarterbacks had one

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Speaker 1: interception and ten touchdown passes. That's like Troy Aikman in

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00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs in nineteen ninety two. I think that was

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Speaker 1: Troy's numbers. And the Cowboys went to the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: won Super Bowl twenty seven. And by the way, Chris Beam,

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Speaker 1: we are birthday boy. We are getting feedback in our

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Speaker 1: ears right now. There we go, and thank you Chris.

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Speaker 1: And the losing quarterbacks had a total of seven interceptions

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Speaker 1: and eleven touchdown passes, so the picks were seven to one.

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00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: There you go, all right. Rocklisberger had what five hip

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: yards passing? Yeah, so four of those interceptions were from

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00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: Big Ben. So there's that too, and four of the

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00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns too. Yeah, that's right, that's right. But to your point, Mickey,

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00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: you take Big Ben's numbers out of there, and as

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Speaker 1: far as losing quarterbacks, there were seven touchdown passes and

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Speaker 1: even the winning in six games only ten touchdown passes. Uh.

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00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: You know, running the football was a key and winning

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Speaker 1: these games over the weekend. Man, I'll tell you what

784
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: that that touchdown run Lamar Jackson from fifty yards. He

785
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: kicked it in a gear that I don't think anybody

786
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: realized he had. Those guys had the angle on him,

787
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: and he still ran by him. That's a big man.

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00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: That's not like some little DeVante Smith guy. Right. But no, no,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say what really, there's a sudden uh visual

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Speaker 1: visuals that that kind of make things look different. I

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00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: gotta say that number twenty four they had out there

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Speaker 1: chasing him around. He bo as slow as I was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he might have been a big hitter, but

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Speaker 1: was he a monster back or was he a defensive

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Speaker 1: back on it? Because he was he was big footing it,

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00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: as Ron Springs used to say. He was big footing

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00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: it around that entire field. And I don't think I

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Speaker 1: saw him chase anybody down the entire game. But no,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from the fact that Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: is who we always thought he was. And I must

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Speaker 1: add still my Super Bowl pick, the Baltimore Ravens. My

802
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: team is still in it. They have improved over the season.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has even improved his passing just a bit

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Speaker 1: and as the season goes on. So right now, my dog,

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00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: as except my dog on the AFC side, is still

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Speaker 1: in the race. And I'm looking twenty four. That's can't

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Speaker 1: even curl for Tennessee. He looked Horever Pierce for a

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick of the He's out of Texas.

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00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: He must be a linebacker. That that must safety. He

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Speaker 1: is strong, he's always running behind. Is your all right? Um?

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Speaker 1: All right? We got a choice here, Mickey. You want

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Speaker 1: to get into these games? I think we we need

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Speaker 1: I forgot we got to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in Philadelphia. Yes, yeah, for some reason that

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00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: surprised me. I know there was there were there were

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00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: some rumblings and I'm going, no, They're not going to

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00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: do that, right, No, But I think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think there might have been a disconnect between uh

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Speaker 1: to pull the quarterback and he didn't agree with it,

821
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Speaker 1: but he did it. And maybe that's why afterwards when

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Speaker 1: he had trouble explaining why it happened, maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: if that took place. And when there's a disconnect between

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Speaker 1: the owner and the head coach, you know who wins,

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Speaker 1: right well, Spags Even before the interview, Lawyer was threatening

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Speaker 1: him before he came in. You know, he's like looking,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't tell me what I want to hear, He's

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Speaker 1: out of here. Basically, that's what the That was the

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Speaker 1: pregame notion of the pre meeting moten notion was unless

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Speaker 1: change Lawy's mind unless there was something biblical and we

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Speaker 1: didn't want that. So how about how about this in

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Speaker 1: the NFC East now, because there's a new head coach

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. So the three first year head coaches are

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Speaker 1: now the deans of the NFC East, the trait. I

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Speaker 1: think Ron Rivera is the dean because he got fired

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00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: like on January second, and McCarthy was January seventh, and

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00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: Joe Judge was January eighth or something like that. And

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00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, in a year's time, it's a complete turnover.

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Speaker 1: And I think if people that aren't fans of the

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Speaker 1: thing that the change coaches in the NFC's I have

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Speaker 1: to say, guys, we are looking at a new explosive

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Speaker 1: rivalry though between Baltimore and the Titans. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about two teams that really, to me, have the

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851
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: and good at what they do. The team's philosophy almost

852
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: the same. The only difference is the quarterback. One quarterback

853
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: is we're both extremely athletic quarterbacks as well. So when

854
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: you look at that, those teams almost made the same

855
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: up and down the line, and boy, they they're stomping

856
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: on each other's logos and things of that nature. That's

857
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: the kind of playoff games that I really love. That

858
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: goes back to the old school Cowboys versus Red Skins,

859
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: Harvey Martin taking the wreath and throwing it into the

860
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: locker room, other players and the red Skins crying because

861
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: they just lost the game. That's real emotional playoff football,

862
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: right there. Lamar Jackson running into the locker room. No

863
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: fans fare of shake, quarterback shaking hands. No, that kind

864
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: of crap. I'm going in. They don't deserve to shake

865
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: out hands. I love it, I love it. I love it.

866
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Good football. And one more note on the Eagles. They

867
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: are not hiring Lincoln Riley. Okay, I'm just gonna tell

868
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you that right now. They are not hiring Lincoln Riley

869
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: is not going to Philadelphia. Why would he take a

870
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: worse job. I'll just say that. Okay. Anyway, all right,

871
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: matchups this weekend. Here's what we got. We got the

872
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: Ram the early game on Saturday. The Rams are at

873
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the Packers. The Saturday night game is Baltimore and Buffalo

874
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: Sunday at two o'clock. It's Cleveland and Kansas City Mayfield

875
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: versus Mahomes. And of course they met in college and

876
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: it was a sixty six to fifty nine game and

877
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: mahomes against my sooner has passed for seven hundred and

878
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: something yards and lost the game sixty six. Yeah, and

879
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: then the night game on Sunday night, it's actually a

880
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: five forty kickoffs. By the way, what year was that

881
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: so that Stoops was still there? Or was he? No?

882
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, oh, Kingsbury, Kingsbury five. He was

883
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: a he was a five hundred coach at Tech and

884
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: he's ten got over five hundred in the NFL in

885
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: two seasons. Either. Nothing right, nothing's same. Hey, you better

886
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: be careful. My wife might be listening all right now.

887
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: She's not here. Right now. I'll say that. You know what,

888
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: It's funny you said that. I said something last night.

889
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: We were watching it and my two of my daughters

890
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: were here last night and there they made me go

891
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: upstairs to watch the game because they had to watch

892
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Okay, so but I made I get kicked

893
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: out of the room because they have to watch Bridget

894
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: turn or something. I can't watch that with the girls. No,

895
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: two of my daughters who live close to us, they

896
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: purpose they've come over on Mondays to watch The Bachelor.

897
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's football to night. It's a national championship game.

898
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Can't we watch some football? No, they want to look

899
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: at mister hottie. They don't want to look at you, Bill.

900
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, I made some snide comment about Cliff Kingsbury

901
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: as I was walking out of the room. I don't

902
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: know why, and my wife, the tech grad, said, what

903
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: is it that you have against Ingsbury? Anyway? All right,

904
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: that's all right, Bill. I almost up. I almost got

905
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: sent upstairs when I pointed out that the last time

906
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Davante Adams had two hundred yards in the first half

907
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: just happened to be against LSU. And by the way,

908
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: we gang up on my wife because she's in the

909
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: two daughters that were here last night. They both went

910
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: to OU to school. So it's fun ganging up, all right.

911
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in New Orleans is the Sunday night game

912
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: and it's a five forty kickoff, so it's just like

913
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl kickoff between two forty plus year old quarterbacks.

914
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: So which of those games do you like? Rams, Packers, Ravens, Bills, Brown's, Chiefs, Bucks, Saints. Oh,

915
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: I like all four of them. I think those are

916
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: incredible matchups for the playoffs. Um, you know, I don't

917
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: know about the Rams with their quarterback situation, right, So

918
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: you we're gonna take the Packers there played at home,

919
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I would think, so, yeah, yeah, we got the Packers there.

920
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: About Baltimore Buffalo, that's my game. That is going to

921
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: be an amazing game. Buffalo is super scary. What about

922
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: Hot Sauce? Man just just yes found himself another home.

923
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: And I must admit I'm jealous because I wanted him

924
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: to stay here as much as I like Ceedee Lamb.

925
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: Before that was a Ceede Lamb. That was Hot Sauce.

926
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: He had had a couple of tough years here and

927
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he just broke out his

928
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: last year again. Just proud of him. But man, my

929
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna go in there. They're gonna shock the world.

930
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna shock the world like Muhammad Ali. Baby. Okay,

931
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on it. That's gonna be the upset. That's

932
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the upset of the playoffs right there. Okay,

933
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: you got Baltimore, Mackey, you got Baltimore Buffalo. And now

934
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: said I was sticking with the Bills, and so I'm

935
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna stay with them, although I worry about their defense

936
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: going up against the Ravens. I think I'm gonna take

937
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore in that game too. I think I'm with you, Everson.

938
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: All Right, Cleveland, Kansas City have a spirit, man, it

939
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: comes from the coach. They a great spirit on that team.

940
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: All Right, Brown, Brown's can't go into Kansas City and win, right,

941
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well, Casey, Casey's defense has been

942
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: really struggle and if they can't stop the run, Chubb

943
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: is gonna chew them up. Not just Chubb but Hunt

944
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: as well. That's gonna be I'm sorry, not hot, but yeah,

945
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: Chubb's gonna up. It's gonna be tough, guys. I yeah,

946
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: that could be another upsets. Fags could be another upset.

947
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: See the thing I worry about and Mickey, there's another quarterback.

948
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: There's another quarterback there in Mayfield. Is you get a

949
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: run game going and he can see he can now

950
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: be an efficient quarterback. What I worry, what I worry

951
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: all the time. What I worry about Kansas City is

952
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they kind of struggled down the stretch.

953
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: They should. They weren't steamrolling people the way Buffalo was,

954
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: by the way, or the way the Ravens did at

955
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: the end. Of the year they were struggling to win games.

956
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: But um, I still I just don't know if I

957
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: trust the Browns uh this far, and they had to

958
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: go against the Halls, just especially in the clutch, right right,

959
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I just can't see them losing their first playoff game

960
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: the year after winning the Super Bowl second game. Maybe

961
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: all right, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, M m brady and

962
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: Breeze that that that Saints defense. That's the top two

963
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: in the top two in the league right now, Saints defense,

964
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: and I so we basically I was gonna say, and

965
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: I agree with him. I think the Saints deep fence

966
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: will make make the difference in this one. They ain't

967
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: giving up thirty or forty points to Tampa Bay. The

968
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: two things you talked about in the playoffs bags running

969
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: game and defense. The Saints have both. Okay, So we

970
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: would be looking then at an NFC championship game next

971
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: week of New Orleans at Green Bay and Everson, you

972
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: would have an AFC championship game of Baltimore at Kansas City,

973
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: and Mickey, you have Buffalo at Kansas City. Absolute there

974
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: you go. That's pretty pretty tasty. I like that, all right.

975
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: I like that they're tasty. Yeah, that's good. Well, let's

976
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: let's end the show. I'm tasty, don't need any hot

977
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: sauce one, so you could have, you could have so

978
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: you can have some cold weather come the conference championship games. Yes,

979
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: it gets cold in Kansas City, and we know it

980
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: gets cold in Green Bay. Yeah, Buffalo and Buffalo. If

981
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: it turns, Kansas City would have to lose. But all right,

982
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: that does it for mick shots. Unless you got Mickey,

983
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: you got a final mix shot to wrap it up.

984
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: I think I took all my shots, and if I

985
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: took one more, it probably wouldn't have anything to do

986
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: about football. So I'm gonna bite my tongue. Oh, let's

987
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: just end it. Okay, let's let me get into it. Mickey,

988
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday to Christmas. I am not singing, but you

989
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: know what, on my Friday column, I made it all

990
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: the way to my last two lines before I couldn't

991
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: bite my tongue any longer. When I was talking about

992
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys didn't play better this year, and I said,

993
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: we need to quit lying to ourselves because we know

994
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: what happened in this season and why they finished six

995
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: and ten, And I said, and God, knows. We've been

996
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: seeing too much lying going on already. All right, Well,

997
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: we'll just let that lie there and then we'll let

998
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: that marinade. We don't let that marinade. Yeah, and we

999
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: will be back with a Conference Championship preview edition of

1000
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: Mix Shots and no telling who gets fired next. Oh

1001
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: and by the way, we also got the Dodge Bowl

1002
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: on Saturday night at and T Stadium. Hello. Oh okay,

1003
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: I thought you said Dodgeall Dodge Bowl. Yes, got the

1004
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: Dodge Bowl. Well, Riley Versus tied on Saturday night, and

1005
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: I will recap for you that for you on the

1006
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: next Tuesday on mix Shots because that's the game I'm

1007
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: going to on Saturday night. All right, talk to you later,

1008
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: see you, guys. This has been a production of Dallas

1009
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.