Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. You guys, we have
Speaker 1: a special treat for you. Right now. We have Jesse Basquez.
Speaker 1: Do you heber Jesse Basquez, Andrea's mark, Damon Espinoza, Andrea's
Speaker 1: love interest, like leading man Mary had babies, baby babies?
Speaker 1: How many they had? It's just one, I think Andrea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. We get to talk to him and we're
Speaker 1: gonna you guys hear it right about now. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how you doing good? How are you? I'm very well? Thanks?
Speaker 1: Where are we talking to you? Where are you? I'm
Speaker 1: at home in the living room in l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I live here downtown. You'll never believe where we are.
Speaker 1: You are well, they told him, right, no, I don't
Speaker 1: wanna tell me anything. I'm looking at the one You'll
Speaker 1: never or now. It looks totally different inside. If we
Speaker 1: showed you the view out, it's not West Covina right, No,
Speaker 1: you mean Elsa Gundo. No, we that's that's the beach.
Speaker 1: I think he's hinting what we think he's hinting that
Speaker 1: the beach house and Kelly, which was which is in
Speaker 1: her most speech. Wow, and one of the locations I
Speaker 1: never went to years. I don't think Jesse ever came
Speaker 1: over for a barbecue. Never. Never speaking of Jesse, how
Speaker 1: you were on the show for a long time. You
Speaker 1: had a long run, No, well, two years, the year
Speaker 1: and a year and three quarters, but that was it.
Speaker 1: There was episodes or because they did the episodes a year, right,
Speaker 1: good old days, good old days. Oh my god. That
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone does that anymore. You did not
Speaker 1: come on to the scene until your biggest bartending scene
Speaker 1: in season four, early on season four, Uh, the anniversary
Speaker 1: episode for Yeah, we just watched it. Yeah, will never
Speaker 1: forget you, Like, that's one of those iconic moments over
Speaker 1: the ten years when we first see Jesse, Like, everyone
Speaker 1: always remembers that the bartender. Yeah, the cheating bartender. The
Speaker 1: cheating We got to that because I, in learning and
Speaker 1: in looking up some of the facts about your character
Speaker 1: over the years, I had totally forgotten that this was
Speaker 1: a part of Jesse. Like, let's start with when you
Speaker 1: came onto the show, what was your understanding of your
Speaker 1: character and your role and how long you would be
Speaker 1: on the show. We go back to the audition to start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a long story, but um, I got.
Speaker 1: I got that audition, I think the day before the
Speaker 1: night before. And back back in those days, you go
Speaker 1: and you pick up your sides at the casting office.
Speaker 1: Remember that before they would back them to you, they
Speaker 1: would leave them out on the like the chair or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I had had two auditions that day. One was
Speaker 1: for yet tatted up gang member on NYPD Blue and
Speaker 1: an audition for nine O two and oh, and I thought,
Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way nine o two and
Speaker 1: these kids are like super cool and gorgeous and popular.
Speaker 1: And what I'm gonna be a you know, a gang
Speaker 1: member on that an NYP Blue. So the tile actor,
Speaker 1: that's what you are? What's that versatile actor? Well? I
Speaker 1: went in and I was late getting to the casting
Speaker 1: office and they uh to Diane's office and uh, that
Speaker 1: day there was nobody left in the waiting room. So
Speaker 1: I went in and did the audition and she said, well,
Speaker 1: can you come back later? Are on this afternoon and
Speaker 1: meat producers? And I thought, what me? Come on? Really? Uh?
Speaker 1: And I was wearing a white monogram shirt that I
Speaker 1: bought at a thrift store with someone else's monograms on it.
Speaker 1: But it was the nicest shirt I owned that was
Speaker 1: basically living out of the back of my Toyota pick
Speaker 1: up at the time. And uh, I went back that afternoon,
Speaker 1: and that afternoon they were it's just the legion of
Speaker 1: like all these good looking dudes with hair, you know,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, twenty inch waistline. You don't know
Speaker 1: about hair, you have hair? You had hair. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Well not I have less now, but I
Speaker 1: had I had ton't have a whole lot then either,
Speaker 1: And so what I would do is I would push
Speaker 1: it towards the middle and and just you keep your
Speaker 1: head up a little bit and it looked like you
Speaker 1: have a little more air that these guys were in
Speaker 1: there doing this and that, flicking their hair. And we
Speaker 1: had a lot of guys with gorgeous hair on the show.
Speaker 1: We right, no more hair inside burns. We were done.
Speaker 1: Those guys looked like it belonged there. And anyway, to
Speaker 1: try to make a long story short, I went and
Speaker 1: did the audition. They was so nice, everyone was so cool.
Speaker 1: And I got a call later that day saying, well,
Speaker 1: they want you to come meet Mr Spelling when they
Speaker 1: want you to meet Aaron and at that time age
Speaker 1: and it told me, it's it's probably it could be
Speaker 1: a two or three episode gig as a boyfriend. This
Speaker 1: is what I was told then, So I went that Monday.
Speaker 1: They gave me another scene and went that money met
Speaker 1: met your pop, and I guess I did what I
Speaker 1: was told. Later, I did what you're not supposed to do,
Speaker 1: and that was going around the desk and shake his hand.
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing. Well, I've never heard that one.
Speaker 1: Tell me more. They told me, you know, we should
Speaker 1: have told you ahead of time. You shouldn't, you know,
Speaker 1: break the barrier. He shouldn't go just go shake his hand.
Speaker 1: That's that's by the way. He was so nice, and
Speaker 1: I think he actually appreciated the fact that I went
Speaker 1: up and shook his head um and did the audition
Speaker 1: went really well. Uh got a call later that day saying,
Speaker 1: you booked it. We'll find out when the episodes are
Speaker 1: gonna air. So I got I got called two days
Speaker 1: later after they negotiated a deal, and he said, my
Speaker 1: agent said, you're not gonna believe this. They want you
Speaker 1: for two years. And I just remember sitting down on
Speaker 1: the bed completely blank because I you know, I was
Speaker 1: staying at a friend's apartment, sleeping on a bared mattress
Speaker 1: next to his piano, with everything I owned in the
Speaker 1: back of my seventy seventy six toy to pick up Um.
Speaker 1: And I had no concept of what that meant, because
Speaker 1: I would see you guys, uh, you know, when I
Speaker 1: check out the grocery store. I'd see you guys in
Speaker 1: the magazine and you were everywhere. You were everywhere, like
Speaker 1: the worldwide. At that point, it was insane, and the
Speaker 1: very notion of being in the company of these characters
Speaker 1: was I wasn't worried about that as an actor so much.
Speaker 1: I was more so stressed out, like what are they
Speaker 1: going to be? Like? What do I do? I don't
Speaker 1: know how to behave like this. All I've ever done
Speaker 1: was theater, you know, and it's a very different world.
Speaker 1: Everyone was so nice. Everyone was so incredibly nice. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't say enough good things about the cast, event
Speaker 1: and that show. Two years. I mean, they hadn't even
Speaker 1: seen you on camera yet. Now I had done one
Speaker 1: little episode of Gabriel's Fire as a burrito sales. No,
Speaker 1: I mean they hadn't seen you on on the show,
Speaker 1: and they just committed to year. I'm hungry right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think part of that was also Gab
Speaker 1: was four ft eleven and she was getting pregnant and
Speaker 1: showing real fast. I think they had to do something
Speaker 1: that was she like, did you have a chemistry read
Speaker 1: with her? Did she come into my dad's office with you?
Speaker 1: That's why I met Gab on set that night, the
Speaker 1: first night, uh, and we chatted she uh the minute
Speaker 1: I met her, I knew, I knew where would get along.
Speaker 1: I knew I was in the right hands. Uh, incredibly welcoming.
Speaker 1: So she was GABU hasn't changed a bit. We're still
Speaker 1: best friends, still see her. I'm going to see her
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I was so nervous and just be here for the
Speaker 1: first time put me at ease completely completely. So that's Gab. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this, but your character Jesse was
Speaker 1: actually based on our executive producer Jessica Klein, her college boyfriend. Right.
Speaker 1: I found that about. I found out later his last
Speaker 1: name was Voskez, and if had she married him, she
Speaker 1: would have been Jesse Voskuez or j Jeez. I said
Speaker 1: it wrong. It's a qu's and you should hear people
Speaker 1: with slaughter Espina? Oh my god, kidding. So going back
Speaker 1: to the character, did you know what they had in
Speaker 1: store for you? Like, did you did they talk to
Speaker 1: you about like, Oh, here's what's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: you just knew that Gab was pregnant, So your characters
Speaker 1: got together real fast, real quick. Correct? And I think
Speaker 1: they had to speed things up because she was getting
Speaker 1: pretty pregnant pretty fast. And I haven't seen the show
Speaker 1: in the episode right right, I haven't seen like what
Speaker 1: happens next with you guys, or what starts to happen
Speaker 1: even But so you're saying, does she get pregnant with
Speaker 1: your baby on the show? Just for a little backstory,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. She's a very method rewatch podcaster,
Speaker 1: so she has decided to go into this forgetting everything
Speaker 1: that happened on the show so she can view it
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't unfortunate. So wait, so you remember Jessie
Speaker 1: and Andre get pregnant with a baby right away? Uh?
Speaker 1: Pretty quick? Yeah, And so then she got it, got it?
Speaker 1: So then they have her pregnancy, her real pregnancy be
Speaker 1: Andrea's pregnancy. Yes, correct, Wow, good to know Okay, now
Speaker 1: it's a spot for you. What are you gonna do? Okay,
Speaker 1: he'll still enjoy it, So you do you guys, realize
Speaker 1: that I've got friends who have kids who have kids
Speaker 1: who are watching this show. Nowez. My daughter's in college.
Speaker 1: Uh here in her roommate's boyfriend. He's a huge nine
Speaker 1: o two and oh fan, he's a film he's a
Speaker 1: film student, and he's watched every episode of all ten seasons.
Speaker 1: What's his name? Uh Aram tell Aram? Hi? Hey, wrong,
Speaker 1: thanks for watching. That's nice that we're reaching the young guns.
Speaker 1: It's insane well that the show has as a longevity
Speaker 1: and as it still has a validity because they tackled
Speaker 1: so many personal issues. It wasn't a sensationalist kind of show.
Speaker 1: You talked about the things that kids. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what generation you're in, you're gonna be dealing with those issues.
Speaker 1: And I think it does have an appeal still today obviously.
Speaker 1: So sorry. Going back to the casting, So you meet
Speaker 1: my dad, He's like, oh, yeah, this is the guy.
Speaker 1: That's so good. I feel like I'm with him. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I assume he had to obviously go to Fox,
Speaker 1: even though if he didn't he would say like this
Speaker 1: is who I'm using anyway, like with Yuke, with Luke Um.
Speaker 1: But we have heard that. Our showrunner at the time,
Speaker 1: Larry Mullen, says in an interview, he was dismayed at
Speaker 1: the casting of you what is this? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: News tomorrow? That's what we were told we should ask.
Speaker 1: Larry Mullen, we haven't been running here in an interview
Speaker 1: said he was expressed dismay at the casting of what
Speaker 1: do you think dismay means? Like? What does that mean? When?
Speaker 1: When referring to Mark Espinoza in a two thousand ten interview,
Speaker 1: former writer, because I when I did an episode with
Speaker 1: the Yes, the other pod, the ship, the other one,
Speaker 1: the other he in so many words, said that that
Speaker 1: you know he didn't realize what they had then with
Speaker 1: me as an actor, he had a new appreciation for
Speaker 1: what I did. Maybe that means maybe initially he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but then you want him over, like
Speaker 1: you want all of us over. Wait, but so Jesse
Speaker 1: becomes a cheater, like I know you guys are having
Speaker 1: a baby now, but now you're cheating. Well, no, I
Speaker 1: cheated later, I mean, oh, I don't tell her don't
Speaker 1: tell her, You're I don't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: for your sake. She was cheating. First, Wait what listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to watch the show all night, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna love it. This is
Speaker 1: a lot. Don't tell her. Okay, So the relationship, it's
Speaker 1: the skids. Let's just say that, right, she said, skins.
Speaker 1: But I can't believe that. But so do you? How
Speaker 1: so you were there for two seasons? How long do
Speaker 1: you guys stay together? Like? No, what'd you break up
Speaker 1: to the least script? I want to know to be
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I left together, and apparently
Speaker 1: I think I guess we're still together. But they are
Speaker 1: Andre and jesserom so together. But us they were trying
Speaker 1: trying to get a divorce or thinking about a divorce.
Speaker 1: That's all I know. So, if it came back today
Speaker 1: or you know, like the other nine O, two and oh,
Speaker 1: when it came back in c W, they had different
Speaker 1: storylines created. What had happened, Like Kelly and Dylan had
Speaker 1: ended up together? How did a child together? David and
Speaker 1: Donna had a child together. But we're in the midst
Speaker 1: of separating, possibly getting a divorce. If Andrea and Jesse
Speaker 1: had come back, where would they be in your opinion,
Speaker 1: I am in my life would still be married and
Speaker 1: probably grandparents are great. I like it. I like it
Speaker 1: happily ever after. I mean, I have to be to
Speaker 1: be honest. You know who doesn't. Yeah? Yeah? Um so
Speaker 1: if you okay, So you went on after have a
Speaker 1: long acting career, you're still acting, I'm assuming. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you working on right now? You were an American
Speaker 1: Horse Story? How did I Miss It? Is my favorite?
Speaker 1: How did I miss you? In it? He were you
Speaker 1: as scary characters? I only had a couple episodes I got.
Speaker 1: I got to work with Jessica Lange and that was
Speaker 1: She's okay. So you're either in season one to three
Speaker 1: or four? Wait what season? Season? Season? Uh? The season too?
Speaker 1: The I can't watch it? Miss this now I have
Speaker 1: to go back. Yeah I can't. It's one of my own.
Speaker 1: That makes you. That makes me that much closer to
Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy. Just because you were on there? Was it
Speaker 1: a great experience? What was it like? Uh? Well it
Speaker 1: was Jessica Lange and I was so worried. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: maybe she's not real nice. And I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: because I've only met a handful of people who weren't nice.
Speaker 1: You know. On set? She who are those? Amazing? Such
Speaker 1: a pro and we we did probably takes and she
Speaker 1: gave it and thousands every single time. Such a such
Speaker 1: a pro, amazing, just an amazing, amazing person. Who's somebody
Speaker 1: else that you've loved working with over the lounge of
Speaker 1: your career, There's been a lot. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I just did a Jenny that's not the answer. I
Speaker 1: was on tap, but okay, okay. I just finished working
Speaker 1: on a show called The End Game on scenes that
Speaker 1: I think you can get on Peacock or Hulu or
Speaker 1: something like that. They didn't renew it for a second season.
Speaker 1: But it was the best job I've ever had. I
Speaker 1: think the Castle crew were amazing, but it was Marentha
Speaker 1: Backer and in Rayma show Bath. Uh, there's been There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of actors that have been great. I
Speaker 1: just did an episode of Quantum Leap with Raymond Lee
Speaker 1: and nice guy, nice, nice nice. It all comes back,
Speaker 1: you know what it all makes. It makes a difference
Speaker 1: when to show up on set and everyone's pleasant I've
Speaker 1: been on sets where people aren't pleasant or there's an
Speaker 1: ego thing going on, and it just it just it's
Speaker 1: a wedge between you and the work. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: like to think of myself as you know, uh, Jerryman,
Speaker 1: who just wants to come in and do his job.
Speaker 1: You know, you were so kind and so fun and
Speaker 1: we loved always being with you. But take us back
Speaker 1: to those days. Did you feel like, uh that ever
Speaker 1: happened on our set? I mean, everyone was at the
Speaker 1: height of their career, like it was young people. We
Speaker 1: didn't always get along and it's so nervous when you
Speaker 1: asked this question, like what if it's me that day? Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys are crazy nice to me, uh,
Speaker 1: And I never felt uncomfortab We didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of work together because so much of my stuff was
Speaker 1: with gab or Or it was a big group group stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't know when we do all those those were fun.
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember stressful days for different reasons, you know,
Speaker 1: and things were a little askewed at times, But as
Speaker 1: far as people being professional and being nice to each other,
Speaker 1: and the crew was amazing as well. No, I have
Speaker 1: I have nothing but good memories on set. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel the same way. All the all
Speaker 1: the bad little moments are stressful moments seemed to fade
Speaker 1: away and you're left with all the best memories because
Speaker 1: it was such a magical time in all of our lives.
Speaker 1: Well that I can't imagine what it was like for you.
Speaker 1: I remember Jason coming in probably my first couple episodes.
Speaker 1: I was in for fitting and Jason walks in and
Speaker 1: with the ten dollar bill and Molly who was Moll
Speaker 1: David David we call him spo Swoopieooo. Jason Jason bill
Speaker 1: in his hand, and he goes, can somebody please go
Speaker 1: buy me a package of tube socks? Before guy could
Speaker 1: not go to a mall and buy tube socks because
Speaker 1: you guys were so famous. Wait, I thought he was
Speaker 1: like doing a prank and like I'd like to buy
Speaker 1: a pack of tube socks. That would be meaning like
Speaker 1: doesn't tu socks mean something else? Like what like like
Speaker 1: like a sausage, like a penis? What would you want
Speaker 1: a penis? Tube socks? Guys? Am I off base here? Yes,
Speaker 1: there's there's some someone older Randy. Wait, do you know
Speaker 1: what tupsocks used to mean? Too steak. It does have
Speaker 1: a dirty I apologize, I apologize. She's always apologizing for me.
Speaker 1: And how do you? How do you? How do you
Speaker 1: do it? How do you? How do you hold up?
Speaker 1: It's not easy? She goes off on tangents, but they're fun.
Speaker 1: You're talking about tube socks. Yeah, he couldn't buy his
Speaker 1: own socks, so we had to ask Molly to do it.
Speaker 1: It would have been the same for you guys. You couldn't.
Speaker 1: You probably couldn't run into McDonald's and grab a big
Speaker 1: mac if you wanted it, because you've been bombarded. We
Speaker 1: did it, We actually didn't. That was It was definitely
Speaker 1: a weird time. I don't think any of us were
Speaker 1: quite prepared for it. And but the best memories from it,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's such appreciation for you know, all
Speaker 1: of that good, the bad, weird, well, because you know,
Speaker 1: as you know, get older, life throws you enough bs
Speaker 1: so you can look back and relish. They're really good
Speaker 1: times and it gives an appreciation for what you have
Speaker 1: now in your life as well. Wait, I want to
Speaker 1: know what you have in your life. I heard you're
Speaker 1: a girl. Dad. I've got three, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: we have a modern family. I've got a partner of
Speaker 1: twenty years. We've got three three dogs, three rescue dogs.
Speaker 1: I and the father for three gorgeous daughters. Ones in college,
Speaker 1: ones in um uh high school, and the other is
Speaker 1: finishing up middle school. So I started way like, wow,
Speaker 1: the middle school. How old is your youngest? She's gonna
Speaker 1: be fourteen in March fourteen fourteen. Yeah, it's the best though, right,
Speaker 1: three girls, I'm three girls life. I remember what life
Speaker 1: was before life. I remember what life was like before them.
Speaker 1: But it's a blur because you know, you've always heard
Speaker 1: how you guys have kids. You've I've always heard you
Speaker 1: never love anything more than you love your kids. And
Speaker 1: I assume that's probably true to a certain level. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize the depth, Darvin, I would. I would throw
Speaker 1: myself on the tracks for them. I wouldn't think you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think twice about it, You would just do it.
Speaker 1: You love them so much, even when they're rotten a
Speaker 1: really crappy day, You adore them. You love them more
Speaker 1: than you love anything. And being in this business where
Speaker 1: it's me, me, me, me me all the time to
Speaker 1: be able to set aside and go I love something
Speaker 1: more than I love myself. That that's a revelation. I
Speaker 1: think on a certain level it is. Yeah, it is well,
Speaker 1: But she doesn't love herself at all because she has
Speaker 1: five kids to love. There's no love left over, no left,
Speaker 1: no love left. Don't love me. I'll love herself. I
Speaker 1: love you more than I love myself. But that's another
Speaker 1: would for me. Yeah, that's a good friend. I'm sweet.
Speaker 1: Is that mean I would? I would do whatever, I
Speaker 1: could stop the train, like, I don't know if I would,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I would think that out first,
Speaker 1: Like what if you didn't have a moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess if I had, I don't know. I'm like
Speaker 1: when it comes to things happening, I'm not like a
Speaker 1: strong person. I wouldn't imagine, but when something happens, I
Speaker 1: dive in deep, like I'll go fast. So I probably
Speaker 1: would not think about it and throw myself on the
Speaker 1: train attraction, and then I'd feel really guilty. If would you, um,
Speaker 1: you would say my eulogy? Yes, okay, No, you'd make jokes,
Speaker 1: of course I would. Oh, it's so fun to talk
Speaker 1: to you and catch up with you. Yes, it's been
Speaker 1: a really long time, you honestly look the same. It's weird,
Speaker 1: it's bizarro. I knew. See, we all have our like
Speaker 1: personal things we are self conscious about, and you brought
Speaker 1: it up earlier, so we knew we were to say
Speaker 1: your okay, aside from your hair, you're still as exactly
Speaker 1: from fella. It's like a man swoon over you. Did
Speaker 1: you notice that or you didn't get it because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Jason Priestly Luke Perry, like you're swooning over me. Girls
Speaker 1: loved you, by the way. I go back to my
Speaker 1: my thirty and forty years men, everyone they they all
Speaker 1: liked a little Jesse. I that's a long story, but
Speaker 1: I well, no, I just like it's so bizarre. I
Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't find a date in high school. And
Speaker 1: you go back to your high school reunion and you
Speaker 1: hear these these girls, women, young women have grown up
Speaker 1: to be women, and they're all still gorgeous, and they say,
Speaker 1: I had such a crush on you in high school.
Speaker 1: What nobody had a crush on me? And I couldn't
Speaker 1: find a date to home coming? So do people recognize
Speaker 1: you from from Nino too? I know? Is that like
Speaker 1: the most recognizable thing that you find people seeing you
Speaker 1: out in public from Yeah, that people still do it.
Speaker 1: When I was on The End Game, people would stop
Speaker 1: me about the End Game. Uh. And the character is
Speaker 1: a really serious character, doesn't smile at all, And one
Speaker 1: kid stopping and said, dude, you smile. I really like
Speaker 1: the show Man. Uh. But yeah, I still get the night.
Speaker 1: But people look at you a little bit like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I go to school with you. Yeah, get a
Speaker 1: little foggy for people. Well, I played a lot of
Speaker 1: cops and doctors and judges, so on occasion people stop
Speaker 1: and start talking to me like I'm a professional, like
Speaker 1: a dude, I just playing on TV. Man. That's the
Speaker 1: best response. Was this your most notable like character playing
Speaker 1: a leading man sex symbol? Uh? Jesse? Yes, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't. I wouldn't consider him a
Speaker 1: sex symbol. I still wear plaid, by the way I might.
Speaker 1: I might ask plaid and stone washed jeans. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't hear you didn't hear it as much
Speaker 1: as we did. But girls used to like fawn over you,
Speaker 1: and I can't take it anymore. No, I don't remember
Speaker 1: that it is. I will say, I will I will.
Speaker 1: I will to backtrack a tiny bit. I moved from
Speaker 1: Chicago back to l A. And in those three weeks
Speaker 1: before I had the nine or two and o audition,
Speaker 1: I was only in town less than a month. When
Speaker 1: I got the audition. Those three weeks, I was trying
Speaker 1: to find a job waiting tables. I could not get
Speaker 1: a job waiting tables anywhere. Uh, And the idea of
Speaker 1: asking someone out on a date was impossible. You fast forward,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm eating at restaurants I couldn't
Speaker 1: get a job at and I'm getting you know, women
Speaker 1: were giving me their business cards and things like that.
Speaker 1: But at that point it doesn't seem real, you know,
Speaker 1: you You wonder about their motives in that respect. So
Speaker 1: I if someone thought I was a sex symbol, I
Speaker 1: never heard it. Well we do, yeah, we heard it.
Speaker 1: We thought it. Still do. Yeah. Look at that smile,
Speaker 1: always the best for this thing. Best smile. It's so
Speaker 1: great catching up with you. We really really appreciate your
Speaker 1: green now on the pod. It's so good. It's so
Speaker 1: good to see you. Likewise, you guys look amazing, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, than mirrors smoking mirrors, no good genetics, good
Speaker 1: living gorgeousness period so thank you. No periods. Well, we
Speaker 1: hope we see you soon. Look up, look up the
Speaker 1: end game. It's it's it's a really fun show. It's
Speaker 1: a great show. Okay, lets everybody go out and check
Speaker 1: out the end Game. See Mark Espinoza in actually wearing
Speaker 1: some really nice suits. We miss you. We it's so
Speaker 1: great seeing you hopefully. Well, I know we have talked
Speaker 1: before with Gab about getting together with you, and and
Speaker 1: all said they're eating they have a pot luck, so
Speaker 1: hopefully that works out. I'll see you in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, so I'll bring it up. Yeah, tell her
Speaker 1: we want to We still want to do that the
Speaker 1: pot luck year. Yeah, in the new year. Okay, we
Speaker 1: love you, Love you guys. Oh my gosh, what fun
Speaker 1: it is. That was Mark Damon Espinosa. He literally looks
Speaker 1: the same. It must be nice being a man because
Speaker 1: you basically, for the most part, you look the same.
Speaker 1: It's not always true either age or you don't. And
Speaker 1: if you age the same, he looks exactly the same thing.