WEBVTT - 9021One on One: Mark Damon Espinoza

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<v Speaker 1>With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. You guys, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a special treat for you. Right now. We have Jesse Basquez.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you heber Jesse Basquez, Andrea's mark, Damon Espinoza, Andrea's

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<v Speaker 1>love interest, like leading man Mary had babies, baby babies?

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<v Speaker 1>How many they had? It's just one, I think Andrea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. We get to talk to him and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you guys hear it right about now. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing good? How are you? I'm very well? Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we talking to you? Where are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at home in the living room in l A. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I live here downtown. You'll never believe where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You are well, they told him, right, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>wanna tell me anything. I'm looking at the one You'll

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<v Speaker 1>never or now. It looks totally different inside. If we

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<v Speaker 1>showed you the view out, it's not West Covina right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean Elsa Gundo. No, we that's that's the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's hinting what we think he's hinting that

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<v Speaker 1>the beach house and Kelly, which was which is in

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<v Speaker 1>her most speech. Wow, and one of the locations I

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<v Speaker 1>never went to years. I don't think Jesse ever came

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<v Speaker 1>over for a barbecue. Never. Never speaking of Jesse, how

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<v Speaker 1>you were on the show for a long time. You

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<v Speaker 1>had a long run, No, well, two years, the year

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<v Speaker 1>and a year and three quarters, but that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was episodes or because they did the episodes a year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>good old days, good old days. Oh my god. That

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone does that anymore. You did not

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<v Speaker 1>come on to the scene until your biggest bartending scene

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<v Speaker 1>in season four, early on season four, Uh, the anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>episode for Yeah, we just watched it. Yeah, will never

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<v Speaker 1>forget you, Like, that's one of those iconic moments over

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<v Speaker 1>the ten years when we first see Jesse, Like, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>always remembers that the bartender. Yeah, the cheating bartender. The

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<v Speaker 1>cheating We got to that because I, in learning and

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<v Speaker 1>in looking up some of the facts about your character

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, I had totally forgotten that this was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of Jesse. Like, let's start with when you

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<v Speaker 1>came onto the show, what was your understanding of your

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<v Speaker 1>character and your role and how long you would be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. We go back to the audition to start. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not a long story, but um, I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that audition, I think the day before the

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<v Speaker 1>night before. And back back in those days, you go

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<v Speaker 1>and you pick up your sides at the casting office.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that before they would back them to you, they

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<v Speaker 1>would leave them out on the like the chair or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had had two auditions that day. One was

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<v Speaker 1>for yet tatted up gang member on NYPD Blue and

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<v Speaker 1>an audition for nine O two and oh, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way, there's no way nine o two and

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<v Speaker 1>these kids are like super cool and gorgeous and popular.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I'm gonna be a you know, a gang

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<v Speaker 1>member on that an NYP Blue. So the tile actor,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you are? What's that versatile actor? Well? I

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<v Speaker 1>went in and I was late getting to the casting

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<v Speaker 1>office and they uh to Diane's office and uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>day there was nobody left in the waiting room. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went in and did the audition and she said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>can you come back later? Are on this afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>meat producers? And I thought, what me? Come on? Really? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was wearing a white monogram shirt that I

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<v Speaker 1>bought at a thrift store with someone else's monograms on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the nicest shirt I owned that was

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<v Speaker 1>basically living out of the back of my Toyota pick

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<v Speaker 1>up at the time. And uh, I went back that afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and that afternoon they were it's just the legion of

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<v Speaker 1>like all these good looking dudes with hair, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, twenty inch waistline. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about hair, you have hair? You had hair. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Well not I have less now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had I had ton't have a whole lot then either,

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<v Speaker 1>And so what I would do is I would push

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<v Speaker 1>it towards the middle and and just you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>head up a little bit and it looked like you

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<v Speaker 1>have a little more air that these guys were in

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<v Speaker 1>there doing this and that, flicking their hair. And we

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of guys with gorgeous hair on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We right, no more hair inside burns. We were done.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys looked like it belonged there. And anyway, to

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<v Speaker 1>try to make a long story short, I went and

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<v Speaker 1>did the audition. They was so nice, everyone was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got a call later that day saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they want you to come meet Mr Spelling when they

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<v Speaker 1>want you to meet Aaron and at that time age

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<v Speaker 1>and it told me, it's it's probably it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a two or three episode gig as a boyfriend. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I was told then, So I went that Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave me another scene and went that money met

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<v Speaker 1>met your pop, and I guess I did what I

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<v Speaker 1>was told. Later, I did what you're not supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was going around the desk and shake his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the first thing. Well, I've never heard that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more. They told me, you know, we should

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<v Speaker 1>have told you ahead of time. You shouldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>break the barrier. He shouldn't go just go shake his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's by the way. He was so nice, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he actually appreciated the fact that I went

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<v Speaker 1>up and shook his head um and did the audition

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<v Speaker 1>went really well. Uh got a call later that day saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you booked it. We'll find out when the episodes are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna air. So I got I got called two days

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<v Speaker 1>later after they negotiated a deal, and he said, my

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<v Speaker 1>agent said, you're not gonna believe this. They want you

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<v Speaker 1>for two years. And I just remember sitting down on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed completely blank because I you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>staying at a friend's apartment, sleeping on a bared mattress

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<v Speaker 1>next to his piano, with everything I owned in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my seventy seventy six toy to pick up Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had no concept of what that meant, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would see you guys, uh, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>check out the grocery store. I'd see you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine and you were everywhere. You were everywhere, like

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<v Speaker 1>the worldwide. At that point, it was insane, and the

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<v Speaker 1>very notion of being in the company of these characters

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<v Speaker 1>was I wasn't worried about that as an actor so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was more so stressed out, like what are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? Like? What do I do? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to behave like this. All I've ever done

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<v Speaker 1>was theater, you know, and it's a very different world.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was so nice. Everyone was so incredibly nice. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say enough good things about the cast, event

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<v Speaker 1>and that show. Two years. I mean, they hadn't even

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<v Speaker 1>seen you on camera yet. Now I had done one

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<v Speaker 1>little episode of Gabriel's Fire as a burrito sales. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they hadn't seen you on on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just committed to year. I'm hungry right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think part of that was also Gab

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<v Speaker 1>was four ft eleven and she was getting pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>showing real fast. I think they had to do something

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<v Speaker 1>that was she like, did you have a chemistry read

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<v Speaker 1>with her? Did she come into my dad's office with you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I met Gab on set that night, the

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<v Speaker 1>first night, uh, and we chatted she uh the minute

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<v Speaker 1>I met her, I knew, I knew where would get along.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was in the right hands. Uh, incredibly welcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was GABU hasn't changed a bit. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>best friends, still see her. I'm going to see her

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous and just be here for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time put me at ease completely completely. So that's Gab. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't realize this, but your character Jesse was

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<v Speaker 1>actually based on our executive producer Jessica Klein, her college boyfriend. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I found that about. I found out later his last

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<v Speaker 1>name was Voskez, and if had she married him, she

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<v Speaker 1>would have been Jesse Voskuez or j Jeez. I said

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong. It's a qu's and you should hear people

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<v Speaker 1>with slaughter Espina? Oh my god, kidding. So going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the character, did you know what they had in

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<v Speaker 1>store for you? Like, did you did they talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about like, Oh, here's what's going to happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>you just knew that Gab was pregnant, So your characters

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<v Speaker 1>got together real fast, real quick. Correct? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>they had to speed things up because she was getting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pregnant pretty fast. And I haven't seen the show

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode right right, I haven't seen like what

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<v Speaker 1>happens next with you guys, or what starts to happen

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<v Speaker 1>even But so you're saying, does she get pregnant with

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<v Speaker 1>your baby on the show? Just for a little backstory,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. She's a very method rewatch podcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>so she has decided to go into this forgetting everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happened on the show so she can view it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't unfortunate. So wait, so you remember Jessie

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<v Speaker 1>and Andre get pregnant with a baby right away? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty quick? Yeah, And so then she got it, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>So then they have her pregnancy, her real pregnancy be

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea's pregnancy. Yes, correct, Wow, good to know Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a spot for you. What are you gonna do? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll still enjoy it, So you do you guys, realize

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<v Speaker 1>that I've got friends who have kids who have kids

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<v Speaker 1>who are watching this show. Nowez. My daughter's in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh here in her roommate's boyfriend. He's a huge nine

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<v Speaker 1>o two and oh fan, he's a film he's a

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<v Speaker 1>film student, and he's watched every episode of all ten seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Uh Aram tell Aram? Hi? Hey, wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for watching. That's nice that we're reaching the young guns.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane well that the show has as a longevity

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<v Speaker 1>and as it still has a validity because they tackled

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<v Speaker 1>so many personal issues. It wasn't a sensationalist kind of show.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about the things that kids. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what generation you're in, you're gonna be dealing with those issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it does have an appeal still today obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry. Going back to the casting, So you meet

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, He's like, oh, yeah, this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good. I feel like I'm with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember. I assume he had to obviously go to Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>even though if he didn't he would say like this

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<v Speaker 1>is who I'm using anyway, like with Yuke, with Luke Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have heard that. Our showrunner at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Mullen, says in an interview, he was dismayed at

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<v Speaker 1>the casting of you what is this? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>News tomorrow? That's what we were told we should ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Mullen, we haven't been running here in an interview

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<v Speaker 1>said he was expressed dismay at the casting of what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think dismay means? Like? What does that mean? When?

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<v Speaker 1>When referring to Mark Espinoza in a two thousand ten interview,

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<v Speaker 1>former writer, because I when I did an episode with

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<v Speaker 1>the Yes, the other pod, the ship, the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>the other he in so many words, said that that

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<v Speaker 1>you know he didn't realize what they had then with

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<v Speaker 1>me as an actor, he had a new appreciation for

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<v Speaker 1>what I did. Maybe that means maybe initially he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but then you want him over, like

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<v Speaker 1>you want all of us over. Wait, but so Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a cheater, like I know you guys are having

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<v Speaker 1>a baby now, but now you're cheating. Well, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>cheated later, I mean, oh, I don't tell her don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell her, You're I don't want to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>for your sake. She was cheating. First, Wait what listen, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to watch the show all night, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna love it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Don't tell her. Okay, So the relationship, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the skids. Let's just say that, right, she said, skins.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't believe that. But so do you? How

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<v Speaker 1>so you were there for two seasons? How long do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys stay together? Like? No, what'd you break up

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<v Speaker 1>to the least script? I want to know to be

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened. I left together, and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>I think I guess we're still together. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>Andre and jesserom so together. But us they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a divorce or thinking about a divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I know. So, if it came back today

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, like the other nine O, two and oh,

0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.319
<v Speaker 1>when it came back in c W, they had different

0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.080
<v Speaker 1>storylines created. What had happened, Like Kelly and Dylan had

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<v Speaker 1>ended up together? How did a child together? David and

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Donna had a child together. But we're in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of separating, possibly getting a divorce. If Andrea and Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>had come back, where would they be in your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I am in my life would still be married and

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<v Speaker 1>probably grandparents are great. I like it. I like it

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<v Speaker 1>happily ever after. I mean, I have to be to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. You know who doesn't. Yeah? Yeah? Um so

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<v Speaker 1>if you okay, So you went on after have a

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<v Speaker 1>long acting career, you're still acting, I'm assuming. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you working on right now? You were an American

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<v Speaker 1>Horse Story? How did I Miss It? Is my favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>How did I miss you? In it? He were you

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<v Speaker 1>as scary characters? I only had a couple episodes I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to work with Jessica Lange and that was

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<v Speaker 1>She's okay. So you're either in season one to three

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<v Speaker 1>or four? Wait what season? Season? Season? Uh? The season too?

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<v Speaker 1>The I can't watch it? Miss this now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go back. Yeah I can't. It's one of my own.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes you. That makes me that much closer to

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Murphy. Just because you were on there? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a great experience? What was it like? Uh? Well it

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<v Speaker 1>was Jessica Lange and I was so worried. Maybe you know,

0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's not real nice. And I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've only met a handful of people who weren't nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. On set? She who are those? Amazing? Such

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<v Speaker 1>a pro and we we did probably takes and she

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<v Speaker 1>gave it and thousands every single time. Such a such

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<v Speaker 1>a pro, amazing, just an amazing, amazing person. Who's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else that you've loved working with over the lounge of

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<v Speaker 1>your career, There's been a lot. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just did a Jenny that's not the answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on tap, but okay, okay. I just finished working

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<v Speaker 1>on a show called The End Game on scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can get on Peacock or Hulu or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. They didn't renew it for a second season.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the best job I've ever had. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Castle crew were amazing, but it was Marentha

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<v Speaker 1>Backer and in Rayma show Bath. Uh, there's been There's

0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.040
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of actors that have been great. I

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<v Speaker 1>just did an episode of Quantum Leap with Raymond Lee

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<v Speaker 1>and nice guy, nice, nice nice. It all comes back,

0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what it all makes. It makes a difference

0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>when to show up on set and everyone's pleasant I've

0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.320
<v Speaker 1>been on sets where people aren't pleasant or there's an

0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>ego thing going on, and it just it just it's

0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a wedge between you and the work. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to think of myself as you know, uh, Jerryman,

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<v Speaker 1>who just wants to come in and do his job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you were so kind and so fun and

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<v Speaker 1>we loved always being with you. But take us back

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<v Speaker 1>to those days. Did you feel like, uh that ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened on our set? I mean, everyone was at the

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<v Speaker 1>height of their career, like it was young people. We

0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't always get along and it's so nervous when you

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<v Speaker 1>asked this question, like what if it's me that day? Well,

0:17:53.760 --> 0:18:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys, you guys are crazy nice to me, uh,

0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And I never felt uncomfortab We didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work together because so much of my stuff was

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<v Speaker 1>with gab or Or it was a big group group stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know when we do all those those were fun.

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I remember. I remember stressful days for different reasons, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and things were a little askewed at times, But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as people being professional and being nice to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crew was amazing as well. No, I have

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing but good memories on set. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel the same way. All the all

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<v Speaker 1>the bad little moments are stressful moments seemed to fade

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<v Speaker 1>away and you're left with all the best memories because

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a magical time in all of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that I can't imagine what it was like for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Jason coming in probably my first couple episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in for fitting and Jason walks in and

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<v Speaker 1>with the ten dollar bill and Molly who was Moll

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>David David we call him spo Swoopieooo. Jason Jason bill

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<v Speaker 1>in his hand, and he goes, can somebody please go

0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 1>buy me a package of tube socks? Before guy could

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<v Speaker 1>not go to a mall and buy tube socks because

0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys were so famous. Wait, I thought he was

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>like doing a prank and like I'd like to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a pack of tube socks. That would be meaning like

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't tu socks mean something else? Like what like like

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<v Speaker 1>like a sausage, like a penis? What would you want

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a penis? Tube socks? Guys? Am I off base here? Yes,

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.479
<v Speaker 1>there's there's some someone older Randy. Wait, do you know

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>what tupsocks used to mean? Too steak. It does have

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty I apologize, I apologize. She's always apologizing for me.

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And how do you? How do you? How do you

0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>do it? How do you? How do you hold up?

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not easy? She goes off on tangents, but they're fun.

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about tube socks. Yeah, he couldn't buy his

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>own socks, so we had to ask Molly to do it.

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.159
<v Speaker 1>It would have been the same for you guys. You couldn't.

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.720
<v Speaker 1>You probably couldn't run into McDonald's and grab a big

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.399
<v Speaker 1>mac if you wanted it, because you've been bombarded. We

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<v Speaker 1>did it, We actually didn't. That was It was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a weird time. I don't think any of us were

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<v Speaker 1>quite prepared for it. And but the best memories from it,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it's such appreciation for you know, all

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of that good, the bad, weird, well, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, get older, life throws you enough bs

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>so you can look back and relish. They're really good

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<v Speaker 1>times and it gives an appreciation for what you have

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<v Speaker 1>now in your life as well. Wait, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you have in your life. I heard you're

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. Dad. I've got three, I've got I've got

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<v Speaker 1>we have a modern family. I've got a partner of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. We've got three three dogs, three rescue dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I and the father for three gorgeous daughters. Ones in college,

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<v Speaker 1>ones in um uh high school, and the other is

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<v Speaker 1>finishing up middle school. So I started way like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the middle school. How old is your youngest? She's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fourteen in March fourteen fourteen. Yeah, it's the best though, right,

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>three girls, I'm three girls life. I remember what life

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was before life. I remember what life was like before them.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a blur because you know, you've always heard

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys have kids. You've I've always heard you

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<v Speaker 1>never love anything more than you love your kids. And

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<v Speaker 1>I assume that's probably true to a certain level. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize the depth, Darvin, I would. I would throw

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<v Speaker 1>myself on the tracks for them. I wouldn't think you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think twice about it, You would just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You love them so much, even when they're rotten a

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<v Speaker 1>really crappy day, You adore them. You love them more

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<v Speaker 1>than you love anything. And being in this business where

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<v Speaker 1>it's me, me, me, me me all the time to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to set aside and go I love something

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<v Speaker 1>more than I love myself. That that's a revelation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think on a certain level it is. Yeah, it is well,

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<v Speaker 1>But she doesn't love herself at all because she has

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<v Speaker 1>five kids to love. There's no love left over, no left,

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<v Speaker 1>no love left. Don't love me. I'll love herself. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you more than I love myself. But that's another

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<v Speaker 1>would for me. Yeah, that's a good friend. I'm sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that mean I would? I would do whatever, I

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>could stop the train, like, I don't know if I would,

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? I would think that out first,

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Like what if you didn't have a moment. I mean,

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess if I had, I don't know. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to things happening, I'm not like a

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<v Speaker 1>strong person. I wouldn't imagine, but when something happens, I

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>dive in deep, like I'll go fast. So I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would not think about it and throw myself on the

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<v Speaker 1>train attraction, and then I'd feel really guilty. If would you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you would say my eulogy? Yes, okay, No, you'd make jokes,

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>of course I would. Oh, it's so fun to talk

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to you and catch up with you. Yes, it's been

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a really long time, you honestly look the same. It's weird,

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it's bizarro. I knew. See, we all have our like

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>personal things we are self conscious about, and you brought

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it up earlier, so we knew we were to say

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>your okay, aside from your hair, you're still as exactly

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>from fella. It's like a man swoon over you. Did

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you notice that or you didn't get it because you're like, oh,

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Jason Priestly Luke Perry, like you're swooning over me. Girls

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>loved you, by the way. I go back to my

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>my thirty and forty years men, everyone they they all

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>liked a little Jesse. I that's a long story, but

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<v Speaker 1>I well, no, I just like it's so bizarre. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't I couldn't find a date in high school. And

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to your high school reunion and you

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>hear these these girls, women, young women have grown up

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<v Speaker 1>to be women, and they're all still gorgeous, and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>I had such a crush on you in high school.

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>What nobody had a crush on me? And I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find a date to home coming? So do people recognize

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you from from Nino too? I know? Is that like

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<v Speaker 1>the most recognizable thing that you find people seeing you

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.239
<v Speaker 1>out in public from Yeah, that people still do it.

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>When I was on The End Game, people would stop

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>me about the End Game. Uh. And the character is

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a really serious character, doesn't smile at all, And one

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:16.919
<v Speaker 1>kid stopping and said, dude, you smile. I really like

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the show Man. Uh. But yeah, I still get the night.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>But people look at you a little bit like, yeah, yeah,

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe I go to school with you. Yeah, get a

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>little foggy for people. Well, I played a lot of

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>cops and doctors and judges, so on occasion people stop

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and start talking to me like I'm a professional, like

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a dude, I just playing on TV. Man. That's the

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>best response. Was this your most notable like character playing

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a leading man sex symbol? Uh? Jesse? Yes, Well, I

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I don't. I don't. I wouldn't consider him a

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<v Speaker 1>sex symbol. I still wear plaid, by the way I might.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I might ask plaid and stone washed jeans. I mean,

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't hear you didn't hear it as much

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>as we did. But girls used to like fawn over you,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and I can't take it anymore. No, I don't remember

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that it is. I will say, I will I will.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I will to backtrack a tiny bit. I moved from

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago back to l A. And in those three weeks

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 1>before I had the nine or two and o audition,

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I was only in town less than a month. When

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I got the audition. Those three weeks, I was trying

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to find a job waiting tables. I could not get

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a job waiting tables anywhere. Uh, And the idea of

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>asking someone out on a date was impossible. You fast forward,

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I'm eating at restaurants I couldn't

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>get a job at and I'm getting you know, women

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>were giving me their business cards and things like that.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But at that point it doesn't seem real, you know,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>you You wonder about their motives in that respect. So

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I if someone thought I was a sex symbol, I

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>never heard it. Well we do, yeah, we heard it.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>We thought it. Still do. Yeah. Look at that smile,

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>always the best for this thing. Best smile. It's so

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.959
<v Speaker 1>great catching up with you. We really really appreciate your

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>green now on the pod. It's so good. It's so

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>good to see you. Likewise, you guys look amazing, Oh

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, than mirrors smoking mirrors, no good genetics, good

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>living gorgeousness period so thank you. No periods. Well, we

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>hope we see you soon. Look up, look up the

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>end game. It's it's it's a really fun show. It's

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a great show. Okay, lets everybody go out and check

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>out the end Game. See Mark Espinoza in actually wearing

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>some really nice suits. We miss you. We it's so

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>great seeing you hopefully. Well, I know we have talked

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<v Speaker 1>before with Gab about getting together with you, and and

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<v Speaker 1>all said they're eating they have a pot luck, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that works out. I'll see you in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, so I'll bring it up. Yeah, tell her

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<v Speaker 1>we want to We still want to do that the

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<v Speaker 1>pot luck year. Yeah, in the new year. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>love you, Love you guys. Oh my gosh, what fun

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<v Speaker 1>it is. That was Mark Damon Espinosa. He literally looks

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<v Speaker 1>the same. It must be nice being a man because

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<v Speaker 1>you basically, for the most part, you look the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not always true either age or you don't. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you age the same, he looks exactly the same thing.