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Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. You guys, we have

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Speaker 1: a special treat for you. Right now. We have Jesse Basquez.

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Speaker 1: Do you heber Jesse Basquez, Andrea's mark, Damon Espinoza, Andrea's

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Speaker 1: love interest, like leading man Mary had babies, baby babies?

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Speaker 1: How many they had? It's just one, I think Andrea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. We get to talk to him and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna you guys hear it right about now. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how you doing good? How are you? I'm very well? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Where are we talking to you? Where are you? I'm

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Speaker 1: at home in the living room in l A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I live here downtown. You'll never believe where we are.

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Speaker 1: You are well, they told him, right, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: wanna tell me anything. I'm looking at the one You'll

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Speaker 1: never or now. It looks totally different inside. If we

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Speaker 1: showed you the view out, it's not West Covina right, No,

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Speaker 1: you mean Elsa Gundo. No, we that's that's the beach.

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Speaker 1: I think he's hinting what we think he's hinting that

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Speaker 1: the beach house and Kelly, which was which is in

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Speaker 1: her most speech. Wow, and one of the locations I

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Speaker 1: never went to years. I don't think Jesse ever came

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Speaker 1: over for a barbecue. Never. Never speaking of Jesse, how

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Speaker 1: you were on the show for a long time. You

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Speaker 1: had a long run, No, well, two years, the year

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Speaker 1: and a year and three quarters, but that was it.

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Speaker 1: There was episodes or because they did the episodes a year, right,

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Speaker 1: good old days, good old days. Oh my god. That

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone does that anymore. You did not

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Speaker 1: come on to the scene until your biggest bartending scene

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Speaker 1: in season four, early on season four, Uh, the anniversary

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Speaker 1: episode for Yeah, we just watched it. Yeah, will never

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Speaker 1: forget you, Like, that's one of those iconic moments over

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Speaker 1: the ten years when we first see Jesse, Like, everyone

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Speaker 1: always remembers that the bartender. Yeah, the cheating bartender. The

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Speaker 1: cheating We got to that because I, in learning and

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Speaker 1: in looking up some of the facts about your character

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Speaker 1: over the years, I had totally forgotten that this was

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Speaker 1: a part of Jesse. Like, let's start with when you

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Speaker 1: came onto the show, what was your understanding of your

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not a long story, but um, I got.

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Speaker 1: I got that audition, I think the day before the

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Speaker 1: night before. And back back in those days, you go

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Speaker 1: and you pick up your sides at the casting office.

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Speaker 1: Remember that before they would back them to you, they

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Speaker 1: would leave them out on the like the chair or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I had had two auditions that day. One was

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Speaker 1: for yet tatted up gang member on NYPD Blue and

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Speaker 1: an audition for nine O two and oh, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way nine o two and

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Speaker 1: these kids are like super cool and gorgeous and popular.

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Speaker 1: And what I'm gonna be a you know, a gang

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Speaker 1: that's what you are? What's that versatile actor? Well? I

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Speaker 1: And I was wearing a white monogram shirt that I

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Speaker 1: later after they negotiated a deal, and he said, my

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Speaker 1: for two years. And I just remember sitting down on

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Speaker 1: I was more so stressed out, like what are they

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Speaker 1: Everyone was so nice. Everyone was so incredibly nice. Um.

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Speaker 1: first time put me at ease completely completely. So that's Gab. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this, but your character Jesse was

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Speaker 1: actually based on our executive producer Jessica Klein, her college boyfriend. Right.

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Speaker 1: I found that about. I found out later his last

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Speaker 1: name was Voskez, and if had she married him, she

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Speaker 1: with slaughter Espina? Oh my god, kidding. So going back

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Speaker 1: even But so you're saying, does she get pregnant with

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Speaker 1: and Andre get pregnant with a baby right away? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Andrea's pregnancy. Yes, correct, Wow, good to know Okay, now

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Speaker 1: Larry Mullen, we haven't been running here in an interview

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Speaker 1: said he was expressed dismay at the casting of what

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Speaker 1: When referring to Mark Espinoza in a two thousand ten interview,

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Speaker 1: for your sake. She was cheating. First, Wait what listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm eating at restaurants I couldn't

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Speaker 1: But at that point it doesn't seem real, you know,

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Speaker 1: you You wonder about their motives in that respect. So

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Speaker 1: I if someone thought I was a sex symbol, I

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Speaker 1: never heard it. Well we do, yeah, we heard it.

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Speaker 1: We thought it. Still do. Yeah. Look at that smile,

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Speaker 1: always the best for this thing. Best smile. It's so

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Speaker 1: great catching up with you. We really really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: green now on the pod. It's so good. It's so

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Speaker 1: good to see you. Likewise, you guys look amazing, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, than mirrors smoking mirrors, no good genetics, good

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Speaker 1: living gorgeousness period so thank you. No periods. Well, we

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Speaker 1: hope we see you soon. Look up, look up the

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Speaker 1: end game. It's it's it's a really fun show. It's

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Speaker 1: a great show. Okay, lets everybody go out and check

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Speaker 1: out the end Game. See Mark Espinoza in actually wearing

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Speaker 1: some really nice suits. We miss you. We it's so

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Speaker 1: great seeing you hopefully. Well, I know we have talked

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Speaker 1: before with Gab about getting together with you, and and

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Speaker 1: all said they're eating they have a pot luck, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully that works out. I'll see you in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, so I'll bring it up. Yeah, tell her

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Speaker 1: we want to We still want to do that the

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Speaker 1: pot luck year. Yeah, in the new year. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: love you, Love you guys. Oh my gosh, what fun

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Speaker 1: it is. That was Mark Damon Espinosa. He literally looks

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Speaker 1: the same. It must be nice being a man because

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Speaker 1: you basically, for the most part, you look the same.

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Speaker 1: It's not always true either age or you don't. And

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Speaker 1: if you age the same, he looks exactly the same thing.