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Speaker 1: Hesitant to bring this up, Steve, you and I were

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Speaker 1: the retweet of Bakers nothing to see here? Oh gosh. Well,

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Speaker 1: Not a single other person has chiming and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did see it, right. Maybe there has been said

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite retweet of this. Of course, it

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Speaker 1: our timeline. As you say all the time, Steve, the

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Speaker 1: Internet is undefeated. Undefeated. But yeah, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: An NFL quarterback with the exposure level of Baker Mainfield

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Speaker 1: would think, although I don't know, there's a small part

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Speaker 1: the Internet, it's out there, full ev er. I'm just

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Speaker 1: I just you're right dressing dressing as aliens Field with

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you jump on board? We were waiting for

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Speaker 1: you at Lake Travis, right, like that is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know why you're putting that out there, dude,

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Speaker 1: that is Yeah. See, that to me is bad judgment.

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Speaker 1: That is a you know for me. You you just

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Speaker 1: Let's go home, you know, and let's tweet about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't say that. You just say, hunt, let's just

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Speaker 1: pretend that was a shooting star and let's go on home. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to let's not put that out there

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So you just so, she's

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Speaker 1: kind of shrug it off. Bro So. SpaceX is based

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Speaker 1: I have just done this with the magic of Google.

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Speaker 1: Maybe somebody's running tests out there. Well, the test was

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Speaker 1: you're right, it was a failed test. That's the only

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Speaker 1: I guess, and you know you can. Everybody can believe

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Speaker 1: with that. I mean logic would say this universe is

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Speaker 1: more concerned with what the hell Baker was thinking throwing

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Speaker 1: that social media. That's so bad, That is such a

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Speaker 1: lapse in judgment. You can't, you gotta And what does

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslin had to be thinking right about now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's probably thinking, I'm I'm guessing right now, a good

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Speaker 1: season lost to thee to the Chiefs by five. We

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Speaker 1: were right in the game, we were right on it.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be picking up the one. Baker, Please

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Speaker 1: tell me this was an advertisement that's going to have

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Speaker 1: a punchline it right, Baker, I want to believe it. Baker,

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Speaker 1: tell me this is what is a state farm that

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Speaker 1: he does Hulu. He's got like five different corporate partners.

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Speaker 1: Tell me this is a Hulu commercial. Please, that's what

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Speaker 1: you're you're hoping for. I paid I paid almost two

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Speaker 1: over two billion dollars for this business, and you're tweeting this.

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Speaker 1: We just we're just cli Baker. We finally here at Cleveland.

427
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: We finally stopped digging the hole we're in, stopped getting

428
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: laughed at. We stopped digging and we're starting actually maybe

429
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: to climb out of this hole, and you just got

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Speaker 1: out the back ho Yeah. I don't know, man, I

431
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Speaker 1: don't know. Uh So it'll be interesting to see where that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not belittling people who have seen things

433
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: in the sky get that. But man, oh man, you

434
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: you don't. They're still not. You don't go into cyberspace

435
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: and start saying, yeah, what as this, I saw this

436
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, because the natural tendency for people

437
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: is to think you're a nutball. That's the natural tendency.

438
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: Whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent, that is the natural response.

439
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: So you gotta know that going in. But I will

440
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: say that Baker doesn't really seem to care what other

441
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: people think. He's proven that time and again, so I

442
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: guess maybe we shouldn't be surprised, but it'll be interesting

443
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: to see where it goes. And if it's tied to

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00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: some kind of advertising campaign or something. I guess if

445
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: we see him in ads with Little Green men will

446
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: know it was all tied back to that, back to

447
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: that sweet I don't know. We are going to discuss

448
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: proposed rule changes for the NFL. As we know yesterday,

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00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: the Bills reported by SI dot COM's Albert Brier first

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: that they are proposing that the hiring process for NFL

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00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: head coach interviews be held until after conference championship weekend.

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00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: No interviews for head coaching jobs until then, no matter

453
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: when you fire your current coaching staff with four weeks

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00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: left in the season at the end of the regular season,

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: you got to wait until after the conference championship games,

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00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: and then it can begin in earnest the interview process

457
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: in that first week of two weeks before the Super

458
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: bowls played, and no hirings until after the Super Bowl.

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00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: That is one of the rules proposals, and as reported

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Speaker 1: by Albert Brier, the Bills are the ones putting that

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: one on the table. There is also talk of reviewing

462
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: the roughing the passer call with replay review, which just

463
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: makes me grab my head and say make it stop,

464
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Please make it stop. And then there's the one that

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Speaker 1: Steve likes, the fourth and fifteen alternative to the on

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00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: side kick Yeah. And then possibly the most radical one

467
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: being proposed by the Baltimore Ravens, the spot and choose

468
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: overtime procedure to circumvent the coin toss. Yeah, those are

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00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: the four choices we actually have on our Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: which is asking you today which proposed rule change do

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Speaker 1: you want the NFL to enact? Some interesting choices there.

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: I think some are a little too far out there

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Speaker 1: for NFL ownership to get behind. But we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the discussion today and we want your feedback at eight

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Speaker 1: three fifty one fifty two, five fifty and on the

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Speaker 1: tweet Cheeta one Bill's Life. Yeah, I'm the pick the

477
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: spot and choose scenario is off the tables. It's crazy.

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00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: It's not going to work because if you're choosing the spot,

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: you choose your opponents one inch line, well right right,

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Speaker 1: you would, And the only problem is you're choosing the

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00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: spot of the ball. They're picking offensior defense. Well, they

482
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick offense. They have to you force them

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00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: to if they pick defense. Yeah, games over, games over,

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00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: So you force them into their into their choice. But

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Speaker 1: aren't you forcing yourself to lose too by doing that?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you just pick the one yard line?

487
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna pick offense, they run an in

488
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Games over, you lost? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I picked their one. They got nine three quarters, They

490
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: got ninety nine point nine yards. They don't. They get

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00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to pick offensior defense. Well yeah, but pick where they

492
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: spot the ball. They pick whether they have the ball

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00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: or play defense. Well yeah, but they have if you

494
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: have to play offense. Though, if you pick their one

495
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: yard line where the ball spotted and they pick defense,

496
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: they lose automatically. It's a it's an extra point. Your

497
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: game's over. And even if they don't pick, if you

498
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: don't kick the field goal, you're quarterback sneak from winning

499
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: the game one play, thank you. They have to. They can't.

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Speaker 1: They can't make it anything inside the twenty. That's not

501
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: what that says. I know. So you pick, So that's

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00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: you pick it on the one yard line, they get

503
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: the ball, fine, give them the ball on their own

504
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: zero yard line. Yeah, so that's not gonna work. That's

505
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: not gonna work, and any score wins. Seriously, no, Now,

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00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: just for people that haven't heard it yet, one team

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00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: picks the spot of the ball to start overtime. The

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00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: other team chooses whether to play offense or defense. If

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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: the one team picks, for example, the offense is own

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00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty yard line, The opponent would then choose whether to

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00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: play offense from their own twenty or to play defense

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: with the other team having the ball on its own twenty.

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: They're claiming this would minimize the impact of the coin toss.

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Under this proposal, the coin toss would be used only

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00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: to give the team that wins the toss the right

516
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: to pick the spot of the ball or to choose

517
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: offense or defense. So apparently you can choose offense or

518
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: defense first. Also, why the hell would you do that

519
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: if you don't know where the ball is going to

520
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: be spotted? Well, yeah, you can't. Well, it's claiming they

521
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: may use a coin toss to give the team that

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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: wins to toss the right to pick the spot of

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00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: the ball or to choose offense or defense. Why would

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00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you ever not pick the spot of the ball, right,

525
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Because how can you pick offens or defense if you

526
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: don't know where you're it's just ball. Yeah, it just

527
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: it's who picks spot of the spot of the ball.

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00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: It really seems way out there. Um, yeah, this is

529
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: all Yeah, this is when you get media people interpreting

530
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: what's going on in there. They don't even think through

531
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: what they're writing. You can't whatever, that's crazy talk. Yeah,

532
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: you don't flip the coin for both choices. You flip

533
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: the coin as to who gets who gets to pick

534
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: the spot of the ball. I'm still having trouble understanding

535
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: how this is supposed to be deemed a fairer way

536
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: to do overtime. If team sticks another team on the

537
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: one yard line, Yeah, like, wouldn't every team do that? Exactly? Exactly. See,

538
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: there's either something we're not getting or something that is

539
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: left out of this. Either there's a they have to

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00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: spot it between the forties or whatever between the twenties. Yeah,

541
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: something like that. But yeah, it's interesting. Nonetheless, but we

542
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: want your take on some of these ruled proposals. The

543
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: one being proposed by the Bills, the fourth and fifteen one,

544
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I think has some legs and Steve and I are

545
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: going to tell you why when we return here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio talking Back to One Bill Live, First Round

548
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: to chafter with you talking NFL rule change proposals. Bills

549
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: part of that with their reported proposal to push back

550
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: head coaching interviews until after a conference championship games and

551
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: basically the week, the first of the two weeks in

552
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: between the conference title game and the super Bowl. There's

553
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: a tough thing with that, which we'll get into in

554
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. But the other issue that we wanted

555
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: to address, the fourth and fifteen rule. I think that

556
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: one's got the most chase. It's got a chance because

557
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: it's harder nowadays with the change rules on kickoffs. You know,

558
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: you got to have an even number of guys on

559
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: either side of the ball, and all of those things

560
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: harder recover on sidekicks now than they're used us. Some

561
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: side kicks are for the receiving team about like extra

562
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: points used to be before they moved it back. It's

563
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent. You know, once in a

564
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: while you have some guy doink one, but it's it

565
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: takes an enormous mistake by the receiving team. You just

566
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: never see the kicking team get it anymore. But I

567
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: think it's got legs, and you know it was brought up.

568
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: I think it was brought up last year too and

569
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: was tabled. Yes it was not voted on, it was

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00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: table ultimately. But it's back again where a team would

571
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: have the option instead of an on site kick to

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: go for a fourth and fifteen. What was it now

573
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: at their own twenty five yard line. I got to

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00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: look up the yard line again, I can't remember. I

575
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: think it was thirty five thirty five yard line. Oh,

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00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: I definitely do it then, especially, I mean if you

577
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: got a quarterback like Josh Allen and you're throwing the

578
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: ball all over the place, you're more take that every

579
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: single time, right, I know the risks involved. You don't

580
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: get it. The other team has the ball there on

581
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: your thirty just on the fringe of they got to

582
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: run like one or two plays you get in back

583
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: in field goal, right. So yeah, but I think the

584
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: the rule also at the time they did it last year,

585
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: you can do it once in the game, not twice,

586
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so that's a problem.

587
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: You can only do it once because think about it.

588
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: You got a team like like the Bills, and you

589
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: got a defense that's struggling, and all of a sudden

590
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: they lose their best guy or whatever, all of a sudden,

591
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you could We're gonna do the fourth and fifteen every

592
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: time we score, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's

593
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: decisions to be made there um based on time and score,

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00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: and really when when would it come up? Probably in

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00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: a most often in a last possession of the game situation, right,

596
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I think you're not in a position

597
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal or you get points. You also,

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: it could be you have to put parameters on it

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: because you would have teams doing it more often. They'd

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00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: be doing it more often, and you get into a

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: place where, okay, you know what, it's the last minute

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00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: and a half before halftime. We just scored. We're gonna

603
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: do it again, and then we get the ball coming

604
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: out a halftime again. Yeah, right, So to get three possessions, right,

605
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: and it's and if you don't, there's like thirty five

606
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: seconds left, you know, or a small amount of time left.

607
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: You think, well, let's give it a shot and get

608
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: this on side. This fourth and fifteen option. If we

609
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: get it two more plays, we're in field goal range.

610
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: We can nick him again, get ten points on these

611
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: last two possessions. Even if we don't score touchdown, we

612
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: get a touchdown, we're kicking off again. We take the

613
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen, get a field goal, then we get

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: the ball coming out game over. Yeah, And that's where

615
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: the flow of the game will factor into the decision

616
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: making as well, because if you're just running it up

617
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: on that other team, which the Bills did against the

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00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks last year, like the Seahawks had to blitz every

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00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: play just to try to slow him down, and that

620
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: only had limited success. But if you're hanging points on

621
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: him every time you have the ball, you'd be more

622
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: apt to take a swing at that on fourth and

623
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: fifteen to kick it off. Absolutely, So there's some parameters

624
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: with all of these that are not shared on on

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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: the Yeah, we don't have the we have the full

626
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: breadth of it, and this this spot and choose is

627
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: there's got to be something that we're missing here. I mean,

628
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I was reading out down through my timeline. You know,

629
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: sal our buddy sal Capaccio. He's saying, here's why you

630
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: know you don't you know, I can let me explain

631
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: why you don't spot the ball, and I don't get it.

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00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: The other team cannot choose defense if you spot the

633
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: ball on their one. Okay, and you do give them

634
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: the ball, fine, but look at this, Look at the

635
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: the analytics. You're telling me that the chances are that

636
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna go ninety nine yards, not even ninety nine.

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00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: They got to all they gonna do sixty five yards

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: get into field goal range. Yeah. I think we have

639
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: to get the full language on this, to get the

640
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: full breadth of what is at stake, because if I

641
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: feel like we're there's a missing component here that was

642
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: not adequately adequately explained in the in the rite up

643
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: on Pro Football Talk um, and I've yet to see

644
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: a full listing of exactly the dues and don'ts of

645
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: the procedure. There's got to be there's got to be

646
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: some rules that we're not aware of about, you know,

647
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: some ins and outs of how it would work that

648
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: we're not aware of. And I can't we're having trouble

649
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: getting to the bottom of it. So we'll do some digging.

650
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: But it is interesting all these rule changes, because this

651
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: is going to get voted on, the owners are going

652
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: to think about it. Yeah, what are your initial thoughts

653
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: on the roughing the passer being under review? Now? Well,

654
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: here's my thoughts. The reason this is getting brought up

655
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: is because there have been some instances where it was

656
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: pretty bad, like they call roughing the passer and then

657
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: you watch it on replay like whoa that it's roughening

658
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: the passer. You know, a guy drops a knuckle on

659
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: the side of a quarterback's helmet, just grazes him fifteen yards.

660
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I think, and this is why I've

661
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: always thought. And I'm for Bill's fans of you know,

662
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: forgive me for doing this, you know, but I gotta

663
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: agree with Bill Belichick on this. Just give the coaches

664
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: two challenges. If they get one right, give it back

665
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: to them. If they get you know, yeah, if they

666
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: get one right, give it back to them total. And

667
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: they can challenge anything, but I'm challenge anything. And that

668
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: way they do it, you do away with all that.

669
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: You can challenge this, you can't challenge us, and you

670
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: can chat and then they can. The problem is you

671
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: could either do it as though you can challenge anything

672
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: provided there was a penalty on the play, and it

673
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: has to be on the the that penalty in particular.

674
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: So for instance, and I and I've talked to this

675
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: about everybody knows a lot of people know that one

676
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: of my sons played in Canada for seven years and

677
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: they have that option in Canada to challenge anything on

678
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: the field at any time, even non calls. What it

679
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: leads to is you get a long you say, for instance,

680
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: you throw an interception, it goes back for a pick six.

681
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: You've got your coach's responsibilities upstairs. They're watching other things,

682
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: and one of your coaches goes down and says, hey, listen,

683
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: we can get a penalty. That was away from the ball.

684
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: He had a little contact on the far side of

685
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: the field. Go back, look at it, and they go back.

686
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: If they've got an angle of it. Boom, the pick

687
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: six comes back. Yeah, it's it's third down again. Not

688
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: all that different to the off sides thing that you

689
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: see in hockey. Now, yeah, the other team comes in

690
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: scores a goal. I'm challenging off sides just for the

691
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: for the remote possibility that somebody's got half a skate blade. Exactly,

692
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: that's what you see. And I'll tell you this too,

693
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: And I didn't like it, even though I'm proposing, proposing

694
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: the coaches have this freedom. What this strategy became game with,

695
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, was these coaches figured out how to do it.

696
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: They'd get hold those challenges until it was a crucial

697
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: moment in the game, when the game was close down

698
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: the line you had and a play might make a difference.

699
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: They would hold it until then, so you're the third

700
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: quarter of a Canadian football game at times was taking

701
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: an hour and a half to play. The third quarter

702
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: took forever because they didn't want to get stuck with

703
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: it at the end of the game where nothing happened

704
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: and it didn't make it, so they wanted to use

705
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: it in the second half. But they always wanted to

706
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: use it in the second half, so they'd get the

707
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: second half of the third quarter. All of a sudden,

708
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, we still got eight minutes

709
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: to go in this quarter. It's one of those things.

710
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: So there's a and one of the most fascinating things

711
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: I ever did as a broadcaster. And then this last

712
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: four or five years ago when they redid the kickoff thing,

713
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: they invited me to be part of the summit. Right,

714
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: there's a hand of those players in. There's fun and

715
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: it was an honor, believe me. And I know this too.

716
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys in that room. They're like, God,

717
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: why they invited he's talks to I was talking too much, man,

718
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: I was just so you know, right, So, but the reason,

719
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: one of the reasons it is I had a ton

720
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: of questions because the mind's in that room. The coaches

721
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: that were in that room, like Mike Tomlin was there,

722
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: some other guys were. You know, there were some really

723
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: sharp guys in there. The ripple effects of changing a

724
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: rule have to be thought through. Unintended consequences is a

725
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: key phrase in that meeting. So they thought through all

726
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the ripple effects that you and I are discussing here

727
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: about this. You know this spot and pick spot and

728
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: choose and all the fourth and fifteen, all the ramifications

729
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: and scenarios have to be played through by guys who

730
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, know what's important to those teams,

731
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: and make those choices, and how to exploit those choices.

732
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: That's the real question, because these guys will figure it out. Yeah,

733
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: I'll work around. That's the fascinating part about all of this,

734
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: And it's you and I sitting here. I mean, we

735
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: need every little nuance of these rules to find out

736
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: exactly what the ripple effects would be because they are vastly,

737
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: vastly underrated consequences. All right, we have to take a break,

738
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: but more on this when we return. We'll get your

739
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: comments on the tweet sheeting in about fifteen minutes, we'll

740
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: be talking with Bill's former head coach, Wade Phillips, who

741
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: will be joining the program in the second hour of

742
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: the show. Stay tuned back in a moment One Bill's Live,

743
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

744
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

745
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to the tweet sheet, which is

746
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

747
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. As we are discussing

748
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: which proposed rule change do you want the NFL to enact,

749
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: and Brookes says, A is going to make the game longer,

750
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: which was basically the choice there was review of roughing

751
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: the passer calls. Now he says b is never going

752
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: to happen because teams have no patience, even though having

753
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: patients would be better for them in the long run.

754
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: That's interviews to begin after the championship game for head

755
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: coaching positions. So I'm going to say ce because it

756
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: might make the game a little more interesting. So her fourth,

757
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: the fourth and fifteen proposal, instead of kicking off as

758
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: an alternative, which right now is neck and neck with

759
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: roughing the pass are going under review in our Twitter

760
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: poll right now, delay hirings until after the Super Bowl

761
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: for head coaches is right now the leader. Yeah, I

762
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: like that thirty eight percent of the vote and that

763
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting too, because that's I don't want to make

764
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: too much out of it, but that's how big the

765
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: NFL is people are right now. People care more about

766
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: the off season stuff that goes like it cares much

767
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: about the offseason stuff they do about rules that actually

768
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: affect the game that they watch. Thirty percent of our

769
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: respond it's more so than the rule changes we're proposing,

770
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: or care more about stuff that's going on in the

771
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: off season ostensibly in the off season than they do

772
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: about rule changes. They're actually a field that's that's unbelievable. Well,

773
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: let's let's also remember this though, what are the two

774
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: things that most NFL fans care about the most with

775
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: respect to their team, the quarterback and the head coach?

776
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: And I mean in most cases, yeah, I get it,

777
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: those are the two biggest things that concern themselves with

778
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: because those two things in many ways drive the train

779
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: for the success of the on field product. You would

780
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: and I get it too. We talked to Bills fans here,

781
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: so what they care about? And I'm the Bills have

782
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: got their quarterback and they've got their head coach, and

783
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: they don't want to lose any of their guys on

784
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: their well yeah right, they don't want to lose day

785
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Ball or Leslie Frazier, even though they wish them all

786
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: the best. I get it why that's big because that's

787
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: the only thing that really threatens the of the choices

788
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: we've given. That's only get threatens but the team now.

789
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it stand to reason that if the Bill's proposal

790
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: to not conduct interviews until after the conference championship game

791
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: and to not hire until after the Super Bowl like

792
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: this year, for example, that probably would have enhanced the

793
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: chances of losing Brian Dable or Leslie Fraser. Don't you

794
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: think maybe maybe we shask Wade? We could, We would

795
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: ask Wade when he comes on. Yeah, we'll see if

796
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: he likes it being all ask him a coach and

797
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: we'll ask him and we'll run this fifth that choose

798
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: and spot and choose. Yeah. Well, I think we still

799
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: have to get to the bottom of that, because I

800
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: feel like there's still some details of that proposal that

801
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: we're missing, but we have to take a break because

802
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: when we return, it will be one Wade Phillips joining

803
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: us in the second hour of the program. Steve and

804
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: I back in a moment here on One Bill's Live,

805
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

806
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

807
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

808
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: for you state Steve a blimp. We're not even in

809
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: the straged bear of normalcy. Our number two of one

810
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Bills Live here on a Thursday, and we're not going

811
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: to waste any time. We are pleased to be joined

812
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: at this time by former Bills defensive coordinator, former Bills

813
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: head coach. Also, by the way, he was the head

814
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: coach of the Broncos and Cowboys. But there aren't too

815
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: many people that have more years put in in the

816
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: NFL than this guy, at least on the coaching sidelines.

817
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: It is Wade Phillips joining us on the show here

818
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: and uh, coach, thanks for taking some time. We hope

819
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: you've thought out from the weather you've had down there

820
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: in Texas. You guys doing okay, Yeah, we're doing fine. Yeah,

821
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's uh. We were getting Buffalo weather for

822
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: a while, and yeah, we can't handle it down here

823
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: in Texas. So you can tell that the whole state,

824
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: whole state shutdown. Every time your name comes up here

825
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I'm I'm reminded of you know, that team.

826
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: I remember a week before the wild card round when

827
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills went down and played in in in

828
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee in Nashville and the home run throwback and all

829
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: of that. A week before that game, I had said

830
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: on the air and doing it broadcasting another game for

831
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: CBS when they showed the playoffs scenarios, I said, the

832
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: winner of the Tennessee Buffalo game is going to the

833
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: super Bowl in the AFC. That was a really good

834
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: team you guys had that year, wasn't it. It really was? Yeah,

835
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm of course, Uh, Tennessee came close to winning themselves

836
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: and they they had not lost at home the whole year,

837
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: and so, um, we actually played a pretty good game

838
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: up there, but didn't come out the right way. Yeah, waite, Uh,

839
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on Todd Bowles defensive

840
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: scheme against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Um, you know,

841
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: people were calling it a masterful game. You know, obviously

842
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: you've had a couple of pretty good performances in Super

843
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Bowls also, I mean your last one, you held the

844
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Patriots to thirteen points. Um. What were your thoughts on

845
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: on the way Todd Bowles kind of crafted that defensive

846
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: game plan in the Super Bowl a month ago. Yeah,

847
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: they did a great job. I mean Todd did a

848
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: great job. He uh game plan and obviously the players

849
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that takes the players to to do the game plan.

850
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: But but I thought he did a great job. They

851
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: set up they played a lot of too deep um

852
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: match zone in that game, which and and you know,

853
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I think changing up on Kansas City really heard heard

854
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: Kansas City because they hadn't seen him do that very

855
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: much the whole year. But the rush, obviously with the

856
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: big big key, you know, anytime you have a great

857
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: rush like that, they were going to get the backup tackles,

858
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: so that that made a big difference. Yeah, And we've

859
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: talked about that at length here on our show. Way

860
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: that if you've got a defense that can get quick

861
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: and consistent pressure with just four guys, that seems to

862
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: be kind of a magic wand for a lot for

863
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: a defense in the NFL. Right, Oh yeah, we uh,

864
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: we obviously had that at Buffalo when we were there,

865
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, when we won the Super Bowl at Denver,

866
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: obviously Cam Cam Newton was MVP. They were averaging forty

867
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: points a game, and we sacked him seven times in

868
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So, I mean, you know that made

869
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: a big difference, obviously a big difference in the ball game.

870
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: And then wait, I know that a lot of these

871
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: teams in the league right now with this restrictive cap,

872
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: are going to be faced with a lot of hard decisions.

873
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: General managers are going to earn their paychecks in the

874
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: off season. I know that. You know, back in the

875
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: ninety nine to two thousand off season, you know you

876
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: had to kind of undertake what were some hard decisions

877
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: because of a cap situation. I mean, you guys had

878
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to Bruce Thurman and Andre All on

879
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: the same day. And having gone through that, you know,

880
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: before the season in two thousand, I'm just curious if

881
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: you can kind of lend a coaching perspective to some

882
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: of what some of these coaches are going to undertake

883
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: this off season, where they're gonna have to say goodbye

884
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: to some some well paid veterans to get under the

885
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: cap here. Yeah. I cried when that happened, obviously, And

886
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's tough on coaches. I mean,

887
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: you want to keep the great players, and you know

888
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they tell you, hey, money, you know, money is

889
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: the factor, and you can't do it. So yeah, you know,

890
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: it's one of those one of those deals that um

891
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and if you'll remember, I got fired in two thousand,

892
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: so right, yeah, yeah, none of those guys go obviously

893
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the big, big factor in that too. Give us an insight,

894
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: I asked it. We had Tony Dungee on the show

895
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: on a week or two ago and I asked him

896
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: this question. I'll get your take on it. How important

897
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: is the head coaches relationship with the general manager in

898
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: the success of the team? Not I know, the decisions

899
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: or everything, but what about the relationship and how important

900
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: is that? Well, that's really key. I mean, you know,

901
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: it all depends on the owner overall, but some cases

902
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: the head coach has to go through the general manager

903
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: to get things done overall. Others, like with John Butler,

904
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: who was a great one down with the Bills, you

905
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: could work with him all the time and work together

906
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: on everything. So I thought that was really important. So

907
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: you need, like those two have to kind of see

908
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: the game the same way, the same philosophy, the same

909
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of players you need to get. If that's not there,

910
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: you're not going to be successful. Yeah, the draft and

911
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: so forth, not just the players you keep, but you know,

912
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: the draft itself. You know. Some I like for the

913
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: coaches to have a lot of input, and John was

914
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: great about that, so, uh, you know, I think that's

915
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: a big, big key some some of them, some of

916
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: them want to coaches to coach, and the and the

917
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, the other guys to do all the scouting

918
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: and so the scout scouting and the general manager fixed

919
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: all the players. So um. But I think anytime you've

920
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: worked together and get somebody's opinion, especially if you trust

921
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: their opinion, it alps wait. I wanted to get your

922
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the season that was. I think a

923
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: lot of people were wondering with the pandemic and no

924
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: offseason camps and a pathless training camp, a lot of

925
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: people were concerned that offenses would struggle to execute and perform,

926
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: and we saw the exact opposite of that. It was

927
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: the defenses that seemed to be slow out of the

928
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: gate at the beginning of the season, and you know,

929
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: talking to some of the players here, they said, well,

930
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to practice offense on air against

931
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: nobody than it is to you need offensive players to

932
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: practice defense. And they said, basically, they told us, don't

933
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: put any pads on, you can't hit anybody, you can't

934
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: practice tackling. And then here it is week one, go play.

935
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: How much do you do you factor in the pandemic

936
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: stricken off season into why scoring was so up this

937
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: year and did it really hamper the defenses more than

938
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: the offenses as you saw it, Yeah, I think that's

939
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: a good point that you know, defensively, you you do

940
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: have to have a show team or somebody to run

941
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: the offense. You have to see an offense and see

942
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: the speed of it. Now, the other big factor, and

943
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: I looked at it, the other big factors. They didn't

944
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: call offensive holding this year, right, I mean the offensive

945
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: holding penalties were I think the top team in offensive

946
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: holding had had less than the thirty second team the

947
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: year before. Four. I mean they just stopped holding whole

948
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: college holding because the league knew that those things were

949
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: going to happen, and they need to keep the offense going.

950
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: So you know, they don't they tell they have referees.

951
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: They don't change them the penalty itself, but they say, hey,

952
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to emphasize this or that. And after

953
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: a little while I knew what they didn't emphasize, and

954
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: it was offensive holding right and offensive holding office. They

955
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: stopped drives so to have as few as they did,

956
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: I can see why they scored a lot of points. Yeah,

957
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: I was. I agree with that. We saw it over

958
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: the first month of the season. We started noticing that

959
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: any officials and there was a little bit of the

960
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: mindset that the officials didn't want to I mean, you

961
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't see any yard measurement. They never brought the chains

962
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: onto the fields. Last year. There's a lot of little

963
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: subtleties in the game because of the officiating. And I'll

964
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: say this too, I didn't miss all of it. I

965
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: mean the game seemed to flow really well. They went fast.

966
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: The officials. It was almost like the old Pro Bowl

967
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: days when they actually tackled and that was about it.

968
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: The officials are out there just to spot the ball

969
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: and keep them moving. In your forty plus years, you've

970
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: seen this evolution. How tough is it to play defense

971
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: these days? Oh, It's always been tough, But I mean,

972
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, defenses will catch up because defense is really

973
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: play recognition, recognizing the plays. You know, they start with

974
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: these spread offenses or jet motions or you know, we

975
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: went through running shoot, we went through a lot of

976
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: different things. You start catching up with even the K

977
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: gun stuff. You know, it was tough, tough, tough, but

978
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: if you see them enough, you start to catch up. Now.

979
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: The other thing, I think the other factor was there

980
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of good young quarterbacks. Obviously the Buffalo guy

981
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: at a lot of good young quarterbacks. That made a

982
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: difference this year. I think the quarterbacks coming out have

983
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: a better chance to they just started high school. I

984
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: think throwing the football nowadays, and you're getting quarterbacks that

985
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: can throw the ball to come into pro football. So

986
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I think that helped also in the scoring and the

987
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: point's going up. Talking to Bill's former head coach Wade Phillips,

988
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: it's also coached the Broncos and Cowboys as a head

989
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: sideline boss. M Wade, I'm curious thinking of the speaking

990
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: of the pro bow. I remember the pro bow when

991
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: Tasker was in it and uh, which he should have

992
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: been every year, which he was. But I still remember Clayton,

993
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Clayton and Duper standing over in the in the end

994
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: zone with their sunglasses, one not taking any reps, and

995
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: Steve was out there running every play in practice. That's right.

996
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: Somebody had to pay. Yeah, you gotta ask somebody to

997
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: play against the defense. That's somebody to get the ball. Yeah, yeah,

998
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: we were. I remember too the day of the game.

999
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: We're sitting out there stretching in our game uniforms, getting

1000
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: ready to play, and down right through from one end

1001
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: of the end zone from the tunnel all the way

1002
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: through the center of the field in shorts and the

1003
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: tank top, sunglasses and flip flops. Mark Duper walked. He

1004
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: just he got there just in time to get dressed

1005
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: and come out. And I mean that was wow. Yeah,

1006
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: that was back then. That was something I look a

1007
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: little bit different pregame routine might do that these days,

1008
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, I was like, Wow, that's a

1009
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: guy with some moxie, right or something. That's what. I

1010
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it's boxing. Um. I wanted to ask

1011
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: you a way just about JJ watch going to Arizona.

1012
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: UM and your thoughts about, you know, the defensive system

1013
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: there with Vans Joseph and how successful you feel that

1014
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: marriage could be with JJ in there obviously with Chandler

1015
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Jones on the other side. Yeah, I think anywhere JJ

1016
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: goes has a chance to be good on defense. I mean,

1017
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: the guy's a phenomenal player. Uh and uh, I think

1018
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: he still can play really well, so uh, and he

1019
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: fits in obviously, I mean he's he's been in that defense.

1020
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: I think I think, um that Uh, you know, it's

1021
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: always money, but part of his decision was, uh, to

1022
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: be in a different defense that he was comfortable. And

1023
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: obviously when we had him, he was really comfortable and

1024
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: was a defensive player of the Year and so forth.

1025
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: So I think that had a little bit of a factor.

1026
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: You also had a chance during your time to be

1027
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: around von Miller, did you not. I mean you watched

1028
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: him play, and he may be a guy that is

1029
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: available all of a sudden. A guy of that statue

1030
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen too often. But what are your thoughts

1031
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: on von Miller and his ability to help a team

1032
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: and how much is Scheme going to play a factor

1033
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: in that? Yeah, I think Von Yeah, Vaughan whoever, if

1034
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: he leaves Denver, I mean they're getting they're getting a

1035
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: great player. We actually when I was at Denver, we

1036
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: got to Marcus ware right that I had in Dallas

1037
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: towards the end of his career. But what from I mean,

1038
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: he obviously helped to win that so he had two

1039
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: sacks and that Super Bowl that we won and was

1040
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: a big factor. And I think Von will be the

1041
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: same way He'll be. He'll still be a big factor

1042
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: wherever he goes. So somebody'd be lucky to get him. Yeah,

1043
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: with a salary cap dropping so low, that's just so

1044
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: many decisions to be made, and it's all about money.

1045
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like we talked about, it's not it's really not

1046
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: their playing ability, it's their money. It's the money. So

1047
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: all right, the Bills, Uh, could be in the market

1048
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: for a second cornerback. It's kind of unclear on whether

1049
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: they're going to spend money in the market or just

1050
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: draft one to fill that role. Um, but I know

1051
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: Troy Hill is a free agent or is set to

1052
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: become one here this offseason. You have some familiarity with him,

1053
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Just what's your what's your description

1054
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: to him as a as a corner and how versatile

1055
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: might he be as far as it as as his

1056
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: game pertains to defensive scheme. Yeah, he's a good player. Uh.

1057
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: He is versatile enough to play in the against the slot,

1058
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: so he can play the nickel or corner. Um. And Uh,

1059
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: he's got a good speed and he's a good players,

1060
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: a athletic guy that I think we'll do where we

1061
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: do well wherever he goes. So, um, somebody would be

1062
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: lucky to get him if they get him away from

1063
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: from the Rams. Obviously I'm pulling for the Rams because

1064
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: my son coaches there, right, but we were taking it

1065
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: was a tough loss for them because he's he's a player.

1066
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: We were teasing you before we came on the air

1067
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: about Wes he's now the passing game coordinator for the Rams.

1068
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: I kind of it's got to be a family disappointment

1069
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: that he's on the offensive side of the ball. We

1070
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: were kind of chuckling about it, but that's kind of

1071
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: when Sean McVeigh got that job in LA and he

1072
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: brought you in as the coordinator, and it was and

1073
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: he took the league by storm, and any it seemed

1074
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: like anybody who had a cup of coffee with him

1075
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: was considered for a head coaching in the next SI

1076
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, hiring cycle. What's West's well, you know what

1077
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: does have you talked to your son? What is his

1078
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, future path in the NFL? Obviously does he

1079
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: have designs on being another head coach as well and

1080
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: being the third generation of Philip's men to do that?

1081
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: I hope? So, I mean, yeah, he does. I mean

1082
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: heed he locked to be a head coach. He's still

1083
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: relatively young to be a head coach. But but although

1084
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: they're him if they was thirty two, so they're hiring

1085
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: him younger and younger, which is good. So um, Yeah,

1086
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: And I think obviously being prejudiced, but I think he's

1087
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: a really good, outstanding coach and everybody's coach with him.

1088
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: And Sean got him, uh you know, finally got him

1089
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: to LA so um got him away from the Washington

1090
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: football team. So right, So he thinks a lot of

1091
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: him too, And so I think his future is bright

1092
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: as far as that's concerned, it'd be pretty We think

1093
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: three generations of NFL coaches be neat to have three

1094
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: generations of NFL head coaches. Yeah, what do you what

1095
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: is what's kind of the conversations you have with Wes,

1096
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Like does he bend your ear on you know, defensive

1097
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: scheme and stuff when when he's getting ready in things

1098
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: I gotta believe well, I mean no, I mean he's

1099
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: gotta be your kids in Encyclopedia on defense up. When

1100
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: you're getting a game, you've got to be an unpaid consultant. Yeah,

1101
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: I got the unpaid part down pretty good. Yeah. Now

1102
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: we yeah, we talked football, sure, yeah, we uh uh

1103
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: we talked. We talked. I mean, you know, the league

1104
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: is always changing a little bit and I always asking

1105
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: what they're doing different. But um uh and he yeah,

1106
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: he asked me about coverages or different things like that.

1107
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: So we discussed thing. That's what we know is football.

1108
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: That's a family football, right, and ask you too, We've

1109
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: got we're asking a little earlier. What do you think

1110
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: about as a defensive coordinator? Um, you know they're thinking

1111
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: about taking the on side kick out of football and

1112
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: using an option with a twenty five yard line, you

1113
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: get a fourth and fifteen. That's just one more defensive

1114
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: play you've got a scheme for, right, I mean, what

1115
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? And maybe the evolution of

1116
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: the game going towards that four thumbs up or thumbs down.

1117
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm thumbs down on that. I just, uh, you know,

1118
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: I hate the collisions, and you know I understand that part,

1119
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: and I understand the safety in which we've got to

1120
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: all be aware of. I just think you put you know,

1121
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: you make the rules where there's less people that can

1122
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: cover the on side kick and cover the cover team

1123
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: has less less players like three on the line and

1124
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: two others have to be five yards behind them, and

1125
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: and four on the offensive side, if you know what

1126
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and kick the on side kick and say

1127
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: you can't block. There's no blocking because that's where the

1128
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: collisions come in. There's those guys blocking guys. So you know,

1129
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: I'd be more for something like that than changing the

1130
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: whole game itself. Talking to Wade Phillips, former Bills coach,

1131
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: former head coach of the Broncos and the Colbys as well.

1132
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Wade, we were looking at your your

1133
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: Twitter feed. You know it's son of a bum or

1134
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: son of bum. Sorry, and he didn't want to be

1135
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: called that's right. One let one letter changes the whole meeting.

1136
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: I apologize Um, but you tweeted about a month ago.

1137
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: Rather than writing a book, which you've already done, I'm

1138
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: contemplating starting a podcast answering questions and telling stories about

1139
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: my forty two years in the NFL and other stuff,

1140
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: along with some guest stars. So we have to ask,

1141
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: is there any traction there? Can we anticipate seeing or

1142
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: hearing anything on that front. Yeah, we're in the process

1143
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: of doing that. It's it's not an easy process, I

1144
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: found out, but uh, yeah, I'd like to do that.

1145
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun to do and uh, it

1146
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: really is. West and my daughter Tracy really wanted me

1147
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: to do something like that, and they think it'll be fun.

1148
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun to talk about things certainly,

1149
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, and people's questions and I got a tremendous

1150
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: response from that, which you know, that's why I put

1151
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: it out there to see anybody would be interested at all.

1152
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: And I got a great response. Yeah you got. I mean,

1153
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: that's nothing to sneeze at. So I'll give you an idea.

1154
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: I got drafted nineteen eighty five by the Houston Oilers

1155
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: and it was just a year or two after Bum

1156
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: and Wade and all those guys. Went to New Orleans, right,

1157
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: So most of the guys that were on that old

1158
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Oilers team with Bummitt were still there. The older guys

1159
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: when I came in were the young guys with in

1160
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: the last years of Bomb and Wade and you know,

1161
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: like Timmy Smith and Avon Riley and Greg Bingham and

1162
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, Robert Robert Brazil was there and all those guys.

1163
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 1: And I was a young kid, and I looked even

1164
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: like a younger kid, and I was sitting around that

1165
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: locker room and listening to those stories. So there's a

1166
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of content for you, Wade,

1167
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: especially in the podcast where you don't really have to

1168
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, don't have to edit all that stuff out.

1169
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. That's true. So it'd be fun to

1170
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: it's fun to talk about those guys. And yeah, Robert

1171
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: Brazil is a store in himself. I mean, you know,

1172
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: I going and on about him and he went in

1173
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Speaking of Hall of Fame, one

1174
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: of the guys that needs to be in the Hall

1175
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: of Fame is sitting right there with you, Chris. I

1176
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:22,879
Speaker 1: know we I mean, people don't realize that Special Teams,

1177
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: uh is four four teams. You know, a lot of

1178
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: them think, well, a special team player getting in the

1179
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame would be a punt returner, a kickoff returner.

1180
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: But but there's there's you know, there's a kickoff team

1181
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: and a and a punt team, and they should be

1182
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: included in that. And this guy, it's with you there

1183
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest that those things too, not

1184
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: just kickoff and punt return but covering kicks. Uh. He

1185
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: was the best and so h you know, I don't

1186
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to do with it, but if

1187
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: anybody asked me, I think Steam ought to be in

1188
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: it for sure, especially because he was the all around

1189
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: best special team ever. Would you would, sweetheart, wait for

1190
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: saying that I appreciate it, I'm and I listen, I'm

1191
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: on the conversation. Might this problem is it's a long

1192
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: list and I'm too far down it. You'd be surprised though.

1193
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised, though, Coach, how many callers, like random

1194
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: Bills fans, after they say their peace, they'll either wrap

1195
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: up the conversation, like Stevie should be in the Hall

1196
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: of Fame. It's like there's like this grassroots thing in

1197
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: Western New York even now, like thirty years after his

1198
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: playing career was over. And I'm sure Steve would say,

1199
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: you know, right back at you coach, you know, forty

1200
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: two years in the league. I mean I was just

1201
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: running down in an earlier segment on the show. Wait,

1202
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: like your last nine years of coaching defense. If you

1203
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: look at even the Football's Outsiders Advanced Analytics DVOA ratings,

1204
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean your eight top ten rankings in your last

1205
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: nine years of coaching defense in the league. Uh. I

1206
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: mean that we're not talking about the beginning of your career.

1207
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,879
Speaker 1: We're talking about the last We're talking about recent events here. Um,

1208
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: and you're still doing it at a high level. So

1209
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: I think, thanks. Yeah, we were actually one number one

1210
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL and defense when I when I was

1211
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: with the Saints and nineteen eighty three so and up

1212
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: here in ninety nine, so yeah and nine. Yeah. Wait,

1213
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: it's an honor to have you on. It's great seeing you.

1214
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: You look well. I wish your best with the podcast.

1215
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: I hope, I'll believe me, I'll be listening if you

1216
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: if you get that thing up and off the ground,

1217
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: we'll be We'll be fans, believe me. Thanks for coming on.

1218
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: It's been great to seeing you. Yeah. Thanks, And I

1219
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: got this little deal back here. I don't know if

1220
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: you've seen one in Buffalo or not. We have not

1221
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: seen that. No, I see it. Yeah, I'm not. As

1222
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: long as you don't throw that from one boat to

1223
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: the other. I think that's the thing to do these days, right,

1224
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, congratulations on that. You're the best. Good to

1225
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: talk to you, coach. Thanks, Thanks you two, Steve. Thanks.

1226
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,480
Speaker 1: All right, that's Wade Phillips, former Bills, Broncos and Cowboys

1227
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: head coach. Had one last question? Are we gonna ask?

1228
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: Is he what is he there? Is he still there?

1229
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: All right? One last question, Wade, bonus. You'll know, I

1230
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: just got off the phone with one of our old

1231
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: friends who's and he said, did you actually call the

1232
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: same defense seventeen times in a row? Come on, now,

1233
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: come on, you did, didn't you? Who asked that? I

1234
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: think that was with that ninty nan defense. You didn't

1235
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: have to call anything. But but uh rush make sure

1236
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: Bryce pop and and uh Hanson and Bruce Smith were Russian.

1237
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: That was too, yeah, said he said, it was Saw

1238
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: Tonto seventeen times. And I'll and I'm gonna throw in

1239
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: one more because Steve and I have talked about this

1240
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: at length. Coach um Ted Washington Hall of Fame candidacy,

1241
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: what is your take on that, because we think he

1242
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,480
Speaker 1: should be a shoein not only because of the longevity

1243
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: of his career but the sheer dominance that he had

1244
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: on the field. Just your thoughts on Ted. Yeah, Ted, Uh,

1245
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: we changed our technique with him, just said, hey, you

1246
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: went to the center and go where you want to go. So, yeah,

1247
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: he was. He was a tremendous player. And I've been

1248
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: lucky to be with a lot of Hall of famers

1249
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: and he certainly is right in that category. So uh yeah,

1250
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: Ted's a great It was a great player. All right, guy,

1251
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: thanks again for all the time and the bonus questions. Uh,

1252
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: we'll go, We'll wait for the We'll wait for the

1253
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: invoice in the mail for the extra ones on that.

1254
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: So thanks very much, all right, Thanks appreciate you. All right,

1255
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: that's former Bill's head coach Wade Phillips. Him on a

1256
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: podcast would be fascinating, don't you think. Well, I saw

1257
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: that on his Twitter feed. I was like, we got

1258
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: to ask him about that when he was down when

1259
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: they were down to Houston, when he first started out.

1260
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: And it was funny too because he got his first

1261
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: job in coaching office under his father bum and of

1262
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: course back in those days was a little bit more renegade.

1263
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: And I heard to Curly Culp. It was like two

1264
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: years before Curly would even speak to him, just because

1265
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: he you know, he's just young kids and stuff, and

1266
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a long way from starting out your career

1267
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: like that to being a guy like he has been

1268
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: a head coach three different franchise, as a Super Bowl winner,

1269
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: a really an extraordinary defensive coordinator as well. So as

1270
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: he said, I mean just thinking about all of the

1271
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: giants in this game that he has been around, whether

1272
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: it's players, coaches, and the stuff that he's expected, Like

1273
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: who he's had to match wits against game plan wise

1274
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: over the years, you know what I mean, Like this

1275
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: guy had to coach against Tom Landry, coach teams, Uh,

1276
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like just forty years as long,

1277
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, coach against Chuck Noll. Like it's just yeah,

1278
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: there's so much there. Like just having the opportunity for

1279
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: him to spill all that out in a podcast, I mean,

1280
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: sign me up, Like if you are a fan, of

1281
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,839
Speaker 1: the history of this game. Here's a guy with almost

1282
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: fifty years of it, and it was a year it

1283
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: was bad to share it with you. And his career

1284
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 1: spanned the time when NFL teams would go to training

1285
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: camp for six weeks with one hundred and fifteen guys

1286
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: on the roster and two days for three weeks going

1287
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: away and just playing you know, four you know, six

1288
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: preseason games it used to be and now he went

1289
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: down to four preseason games during my career. And then

1290
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, and having got players um of you know,

1291
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber over different generations, and the way

1292
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: the game has evolved in as you said, he's had

1293
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: the best number one defense in nineteen eighty three, number

1294
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: one defense in nineteen ninety nine, and a number one

1295
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,799
Speaker 1: defense just a few years ago. La, It's it's pretty astounding.

1296
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: And I mean that's remarkable that that's success that's crossing

1297
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: generations of football. Yeah, I mean eighty three to ninety

1298
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: nine to twenty sixteen. I mean those are all like

1299
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: fifteen years apart from one other. Yeah, and it's still

1300
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: working whatever the hell it is. Well, it's you know

1301
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, the fact that he could evolve in

1302
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: the midst of it. Well, that's what I'm saying, Like

1303
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't the same about a thirty years span. He

1304
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: wasn't calling the same defense in nineteen, in two thous

1305
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen as he was in or twenty and

1306
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: eighteen as he was in nineteen eighty three. But to

1307
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: still stay current and on top of it. But an

1308
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: example of the storyteller that I think he could be

1309
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: in a podcast format is I remember I was when

1310
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: I was working at gr and covering the team while

1311
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: he was coaching somebody I don't know. Something happened on

1312
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: the air where I mentioned, like, my favorite football player

1313
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: growing up, and I told him, you know, I said

1314
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: it was Walter Payton. So I come to practice the

1315
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: next day he said, Hey, I heard your favorite player.

1316
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: You know it was Walter Payton. Blah blah blah. Let

1317
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: me tell you a story. And he, you know, he

1318
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: lays out of story that the Saints were playing against

1319
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: the Bears the day that Walter Payton broke Jim Brown's record,

1320
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: right and after the game, Wade and a couple of

1321
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: other coaches went over after the game to the Bears

1322
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: locker room to congratulate him, and he said that that

1323
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: damn that hamshake. Damn near broke my hand from Walter.

1324
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: When I congratulated him, he said, I've never felt strength

1325
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: and like someone's grip like that. And think about all

1326
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: the as we just said, think about all the players

1327
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: he's been around with giant myth. Forget about that when

1328
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: I when I was telling you about the Houston oiler stuff,

1329
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: when when they got that thing go Blue, Love You

1330
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: Blue down in their early eighties and late seventies of Houston,

1331
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: when they were going into Pittsburgh and all right, we're

1332
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: gonna break last year we knocked on it. This year

1333
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: we pounded on. Next year, we're gonna kick it in.

1334
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: You know that kind of back in those days. I

1335
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: mean you had like country western singers and like Willie

1336
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: Nelson was one of the guys down so you can imagine,

1337
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: and Earl Campbell was you know, Earl was down there

1338
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 1: and all those guys. It was a it was a circus.

1339
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: And I got in all those young guys that were

1340
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: like golly j Willikers when they came in. They were

1341
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: all the old grizzled veterans when I got there, and

1342
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: it was they just go on and on about bum

1343
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: Phillips and because he's List and all those guys, I mean,

1344
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: weighs a good storyteller naturally, so in that format, he

1345
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: would kill it. He would absolutely kill it. It's some yeah,

1346
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: some things that it all evolves, but some things never change.

1347
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: And that that locker room stuff is always fun to

1348
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: hear about. It's it's it's a special, special atmosphere. All right,

1349
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: we have to step aside, but when we come back,

1350
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: we'll get some of your comments on the tweet sheet

1351
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: about these proposed rule changes that have come down the pike,

1352
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: including the one being proposed by the Bills, as reported

1353
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: by SI dot COM's Albert Brier. We'll get to your

1354
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: comments next here on One Bill's Live presented by Allot

1355
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll get back to

1356
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: One Bill Live fist round after review. Going to have

1357
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: Washington Post NFL column is Mark Maski joining us in

1358
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes to discuss some of these NFL

1359
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: rule change proposals in depth, so hopefully we can get

1360
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts and the finer details of the

1361
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: spot and choose proposal being raised by the Ravens, which

1362
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: personally I don't think either of us believes is going

1363
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 1: to pass the litmus test with the NFL owners. It

1364
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: is quite radical. There's a lot of there's something in

1365
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: these rules changes with this Baltimore proposal and I'm missing, Yeah,

1366
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: me too, and it must and the way you, I

1367
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: don't know. We can't find him, so we're gonna ask him.

1368
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: He's up to speed on it. I'm doing mad Google

1369
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: searches here to get the thing in its entirety, and

1370
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm failing miserably. So instead of that, we are going

1371
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: to go to the tweet sheet instead. Steve all Right,

1372
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: which which proposed rule change do you want the NFL

1373
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: to enact? And why is it? The Bill's proposal which

1374
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: is saying no coaching interviews until after the conference championship

1375
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: game and no head coach hirings until after the Super

1376
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: Bowl is at the fourth and fifteen alternative from your

1377
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: own twenty five instead of kicking off again. And then

1378
01:18:55,240 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: the other one is review via replay, roughing the passer

1379
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: call because there were some tikie tack ones this past year,

1380
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's a road you want

1381
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: to go down. And the other is this Ravens spot

1382
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: and choose in overtime, the one team picks the yard

1383
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: line where the ball will be spotted, and the other

1384
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: team picks whether they're going to go on offense or defense.

1385
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: But we think there are more elements to it than

1386
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: it being simply stated like that. But we go to

1387
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: Tiffany on the tweet sheet, who says it seems at

1388
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: times at certain quarterbacks may or may not get a

1389
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: roughing the passer call based on who they are, Ie

1390
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I've seen Josh take some vicious hits well

1391
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: after the whistle with no penalty. The AFC Championship game

1392
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: comes to mind, So it seems like she would be

1393
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: in favor of reviewing that you are going to delay

1394
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: the game all the more. Yeah, and here's the other

1395
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: thing about that, Steve that I worry about. We remember

1396
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: how a couple of years ago when they decided pass

1397
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: interference was going to be reviewable, a pure judgment call

1398
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: by officials, And what happened with that they reviewed it

1399
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: as a cursory and then just stuck with what was

1400
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: on the field. Was never overturned. It was a wasted chair.

1401
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: By the second half of the season, coaches weren't even

1402
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: throwing the challenge flag for those they were even if

1403
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: it was egregious right because they knew the refs weren't

1404
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna overturn it. It was egregious on arrival, it was,

1405
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 1: and it was I and I agree with not judgment

1406
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: calls or judgment calls, and you gotta I think you'll

1407
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: go and just keep just live with it. Refs are human,

1408
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 1: they're trying, and they're I believe me, I've had a

1409
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: lot of conversation, and this from a guy who got

1410
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: tossed out of his last game. They get they're working

1411
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: hard to get it right. They really do. I mean

1412
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: I have nobody had less on field respect and comportment

1413
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: in regard to the officials than I did. I mean

1414
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: I was, I was awful. But they do try and

1415
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: get it right, and it's a tough job. I will

1416
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: admit it now that I'm long past my playing days

1417
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: and I you're gonna have to live with some of this.

1418
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to live with it. It's it's absolutely

1419
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: the way it's gotta be. Um. You can you know

1420
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: black and white things. You know where it's right or

1421
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: it's wrong, whether it's whether it's wrong or it's right,

1422
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, whether it's for you or

1423
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: against you. Some of these things, yeah, okay, review that

1424
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: because it's easy. The spot of the ball, great, do that,

1425
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, touchdown not a touchdown? Yeah? Review that some

1426
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Sure, or just give give the coaches

1427
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: a carte blanche to say, listen on this penalty. You

1428
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: can and only on a play that was actually a

1429
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: penalty was called, you can give them the chance to

1430
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: throw the flag and say, hey, wait a minute, you

1431
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: gotta look at that. Whether it's judgment or just to

1432
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: let them do it, do it. Give them one and

1433
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: if they get it right, give it back to them.

1434
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, that's it. Yeah, don't don't make this any

1435
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: more complicated than it needs to be. And keep the

1436
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: game moving because I'll tell you what, one of the

1437
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 1: great things about this last season. For all it's you know,

1438
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: hiccups and COVID problems and stuff, these games man went swimmingly.

1439
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: They there's no debating that they moved right along. The

1440
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: officials just kind of sat back and like Wade said,

1441
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: we noticed it and said it on the show. A

1442
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: ton nobody's calling holding offensive holding their offensive lineman. Man.

1443
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, man, You're munching down on these guys,

1444
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: holding on to them, and they're not getting called for

1445
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: it elsewhere on the tweet sheet. Here we go to

1446
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: Nick who says roughing the passer has gotten out of hand.

1447
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: I know the risk ahead injuries is real, but when

1448
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: players are being flagged for grazing the quarterbacks helmet when

1449
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: they try to swat it a pass, that's too much.

1450
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: Qbs Are football players too? Right? Why do they get

1451
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: such special treatment? There's an easy answer there. Yeah, nobody's

1452
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: special treatment because they're a quarterback. Nobody wants to go

1453
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Colts and they want to go and

1454
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: they want to see Andrew Luck or they want to

1455
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: see Peyton man He or they want to see Carson Wentz.

1456
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: They don't want to see j Kobe Brisett. I'm sorry.

1457
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: People know the league knows what drives ratings, and it's

1458
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: quarterback matchups every side, every time. Every time you see

1459
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: a promotional ad for an upcoming game on a given network,

1460
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: the two images of players from the two respective teams

1461
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: ninety eight times out of one hundred are the two

1462
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks ninety eight times out of one hundred. You

1463
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: don't want to go see C. J. Bethard play against

1464
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah you want, you know, so, they're gonna

1465
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: do everything in their power to construct the rules in

1466
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: such a way to protect the quarterbacks at all costs,

1467
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: and that's where we are now. It's Yeah, you can

1468
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: make the argument that your former teammate Jim Kelly might

1469
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: have played a couple more years had he not gotten

1470
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: the tart kicked out of him. All those years when

1471
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were basically sitting ducks and could get knocked to

1472
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: high there's a lot of quarterbacks that would have played

1473
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,879
Speaker 1: a a lot of having more ten documented concussions. Imagine

1474
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Yeah, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana, Dan Marino would

1475
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: still be playing for Grind Out Loud. Yeah. Jim. Of course,

1476
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: he played eleven years, eleven in the NFL before getting

1477
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: guitar kicked out of him. In this in the USFL team,

1478
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: overall quarterbacks, it should be you should have seventeen year

1479
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: careers if you're that guy. Yeah, you know, he got

1480
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: I think Jim got rob certainly his own decision to

1481
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: go to the USFL, certainly in the beginning of his career.

1482
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: But there's no guarantees that the team would have been

1483
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: the same round him had he gone forward with that club.

1484
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: So all of that being set aside, You're right, there's

1485
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: a if they would have had the protection back then

1486
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: that they do. Now you go pack. I'm telling you,

1487
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: you go back and look at some of the NFL films.

1488
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: Footage that they put out back then, like programs, is

1489
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: not the stuff that they like edited out. This is

1490
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: stuff that they advertised. NFL quarterbacks get knocked into next week.

1491
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: It was brutal. I still remember, vicious and brutal. One

1492
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: of the most telling hits that separates the generations of

1493
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: what you could do to quarterbacks then and now is

1494
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: the hit and now his name is gonna escape me

1495
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: dead Gunnett. But the Giants defensive tackle. It's not Jim Burt,

1496
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: but oh, Leonard Marshall. Leonard Marshall hitting Joe Montage from

1497
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: behind in the base of the back of his helmet.

1498
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, dude is out cold before he hits the ground.

1499
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: Before he hits the ground, fumbles the ball. Giants recover,

1500
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Matt bar kicks the field goal, they beat the forty

1501
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: nine ers. They go to the Super Bowl. But that's

1502
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: one that's one. And Jim Burt knocked Joe Montana into

1503
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: next week also at Giant Stadium on turf, great turf.

1504
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: It's rough. It was rough, and that was That was

1505
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and Joe Montanta wasn't a big guy either.

1506
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: He'd go back to the sixties and seventies and the

1507
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: eighties with even like with Terry Bradshaw, even you go

1508
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: back to like watching some of these guys play quarterback,

1509
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, like Lannie Dawson and Johnny Unitis

1510
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: and Joe Willie, Joe Namath, all those guys, they were

1511
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: getting clotheslined in the pocket, I mean, and it was

1512
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: like the official wouldn't even look at the guy he'd get.

1513
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: He'd get the guy's elbow, the crook of his elbow

1514
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: right in the face, pulling him down, or in the adamsample,

1515
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: and yeah, the official just doesn't even look at it,

1516
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 1: just runs up and spots where he got hit forward progress.

1517
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: He didn't even look at the quarterback. You guys over

1518
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: here laying in six pieces and he's like getting the spot. Yeah,

1519
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was unbelievable. I don't know how those

1520
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: guys live through it. We uh I'm telling you it

1521
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: was those guys could have played fifteen years easy. They

1522
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: could eighty three quarterbacks. And of course now you know

1523
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,839
Speaker 1: they're you know, they got problems from it now physically,

1524
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, worth a PD issues. Everybody's got a you know,

1525
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: bum hip and a bum knees and all of that.

1526
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: It's but so there's reasons for the way this game

1527
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: has evolved where it is today and there and it's

1528
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: and it's very good reasons and the players would have beneficiary,

1529
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: but I think too, in a lot of ways, the

1530
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: fans are too. We have to take a break. But

1531
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks, will have an update on one whose

1532
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: future was kind of up in the air with his

1533
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: respective team. We'll let you know who that is, as

1534
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: he will be back with that team for the twenty

1535
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: twenty one season. When we return here on One Bills

1536
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1537
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: We'll come back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steep

1538
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Jasker with you on a Thursday here taking the up

1539
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: until three o'clock, about ten minutes away from talking with

1540
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: Washington Post NFL columnist Mark Maski, going to get the

1541
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 1: finer details of these rules proposals from various NFL teams,

1542
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: including the Bills, that spot and choose rule is of

1543
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: interest to Steve and I. We want to get some

1544
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 1: further clarification on it because we feel like we're missing

1545
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: some detail there. But we mentioned that there's a quarterback

1546
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: in the league whose immediate future has now been decided

1547
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,879
Speaker 1: as Just under an hour ago, the Pittsburgh Steelers announced

1548
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: that Ben Roethlisberger has been signed to a new contract

1549
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. The quote from general manager and

1550
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: vice president Kevin Colbert is as follows. We are excited

1551
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: we were able to come to an agreement with Ben

1552
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger on a new contract for him to return to

1553
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: the Steelers in twenty twenty one. We know that Ben

1554
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: can still play at a high level and do special

1555
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: things for this team. Our goal remains the same, to

1556
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 1: put together a roster that will compete for another championship.

1557
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: We are happy that Ben will be one of our

1558
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: leaders to help us accomplish that goal. So there's that

1559
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and the quote from Ben himself. It is my greatest

1560
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: honor to be a Stealer and give my all for

1561
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: this organization. I'm grateful to be at this stage of

1562
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 1: my career and more than happy to adjust my contract

1563
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: in a way the best helps the team to address

1564
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: other players who are so vital to our success. I

1565
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: love this game and love to compete, and I believe

1566
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: in this team and my ability to deliver when called upon.

1567
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: It all starts with great preparation, and I am ready

1568
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: to go. There you go. He was not playing his

1569
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: best football at the end of last year. Not to

1570
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: reign on his parade here, but I think it's safe

1571
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: to say is not what he once was can extend

1572
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: plays like he used to because his movement abilities have deteriorated.

1573
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I would say he's more of a strict pocket passer

1574
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: at this stage. And absolutely, but I'll say this, the

1575
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Steeler's offense, to me, is in the same predicament that

1576
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's offense is in right now due to

1577
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 1: free agency right against the cap lat Yes, and they

1578
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: had their their problems offensively. The Bills didn't have too

1579
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: many problems offensively last year. But the Steelers with him

1580
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback, with Ben at quarterback, they got to have

1581
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line. Yes, they got now more than ever. Yes,

1582
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: now more than ever, They've got to upgrade their offensive

1583
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 1: line at a bunch of positions. If Pound with Poundcy

1584
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: Poundcy retired, Kat de Castro Village, all of those guys

1585
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: they need upgrades at all of those spots. If they

1586
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: get those and they can get their their team back

1587
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: to running the football and running it effectively and well

1588
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Ben can, Ben can take them deep. James Conner also

1589
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: a free agent, as is Juju Smith Schuster. Get you

1590
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: can that's it. Yeah, you know where I was down

1591
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: running mine first? Yeah, line first, get your offensive line

1592
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: upgraded and solidified. Everything else will take care of itself.

1593
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: And Ben starting with Ben new coordinator there on offense,

1594
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: Matt canada Um who coached a pitt um So a

1595
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: new scheme coming in which I think a lot of

1596
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Steelers fans are happy about. After the disastrous end to

1597
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: the season last year with that they forward passing game

1598
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: that went nowhere. They found out last year that if

1599
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: if you can't run it and you don't have the

1600
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: weapons to stretch the field everywhere quick, you got to

1601
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: get rid of it. If your offensive line is not

1602
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: dominant and it can't run the football and you can't

1603
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: pass protect as well as you should, ball's got to

1604
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: come out. That's that's where you're And it evolved that

1605
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: because teams started the season thinking, Okay, this is gonna

1606
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: be the Steelers and they're gonna run it and they're

1607
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 1: gonna all of a sudden they can't do that. Teams

1608
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: learned really quickly what the Steelers were bad at. It

1609
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 1: started squatting on route that's right, because they knew everything

1610
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: was gonna be exactly route. You didn't have to take

1611
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: st worry about getting beat over the time. You couldn't

1612
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: take the Steeler. She couldn't take the lid off a defense.

1613
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: So they paid the price. And you can say what

1614
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: you want about how Ben played. That's a tough scenario

1615
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: for any quarterback. So it starts they're off their problems,

1616
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: in my opinion, from thousand miles away. Their problems start

1617
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: up front. And that's why I say right now, where

1618
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: the Bills sit in the off season with no cap

1619
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: and their four offensive line, four their you know three,

1620
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: their offensive lineman garing, their top six yeah are gone

1621
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: or free agents. That's where the Bills sit. They've got

1622
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: to upgrade all those spots as well, or get those

1623
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: guys back. All right, we have to take a break

1624
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: but when we return. NFL calumnists from the Washington Post.

1625
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Mark Maski has had his ear to the ground on

1626
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: the NFL rule change proposals that have been submitted by

1627
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: teams around the league, including the Bills. We'll get some

1628
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: further and finer details on those from him when we return.

1629
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. He's

1630
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radiolow, Bills Radio Network, Sports Date, Door, Sports

1631
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Update from One Bill's Drive. Ben Roethlisberger will remain in

1632
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for the twenty twenty one season. The Steelers announced

1633
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: today that they have signed Roethlisberger to a new, restructured contract.

1634
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: No word on the value or structure of the deal.

1635
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: The Steelers had made clear that Roethlisberger wouldn't be back

1636
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: if he didn't reduce his twenty twenty one salary CAB

1637
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: number from the forty one point two five million it

1638
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: was scheduled to be in another cost cutting move that's

1639
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: quickly becoming the norm in the NFL this offseason. The

1640
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Giants if released receiver Golden Tap. Tap caught only thirty

1641
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: five passes for three hundred eighty eight yards in twelve

1642
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: games for the Giants last year. A second round pick

1643
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks in twenty ten, Tate also has played

1644
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: for the Lions and Eagles. He has six hundred ninety

1645
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: five career receptions and forty six touch downs. Plenty of

1646
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: rule proposals submitted by teams out of the NFL's league

1647
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: meetings at the end of March. A big one put

1648
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: in by the Bills, who submitted a proposal that would

1649
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 1: prevent hirings of new coaches until after the Super Bowl.

1650
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: The proposal would also bar interviews for head coaching candidates

1651
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: until after the conference championship games. How about this one

1652
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: from the Ravens. Their overtime procedure deals with the concept

1653
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: of spot and choose, where one team picks the spot

1654
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: of the ball to start overtime and the other team

1655
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: chooses whether to play offense or defense. This would minimize

1656
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: the impact of the coin toss. Another overtime change could

1657
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: revert the overtime rules to a sudden death fashion winner,

1658
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: with the first score by either team ending the game

1659
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,839
Speaker 1: and up to ten minutes of extra time. The Eagles

1660
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: pressing for a second straight year to create a fourth

1661
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: and fifteen alternative to the onside kick and they could

1662
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 1: look to more officiating review tinkering. NFL owners could vote

1663
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: to approve a new rule change to make roughing the

1664
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: passer a reviewable play via replay, and the Buffalo Sabers

1665
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: looked in their four game slide with a win tonight

1666
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: over the Islanders. It's the second of five straight on

1667
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: the road for the Sabers and first of three straight

1668
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: against the Islanders. That is your sports update from One

1669
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you for

1670
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: our number three of the program, and joining us on

1671
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: the line right now is NFL reporter for the Washington

1672
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,919
Speaker 1: Post who's covered not only the league but the Washington

1673
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: football team since nineteen ninety eight. It is one Mark

1674
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: Masky on the line with us. Mark, Thanks for taking

1675
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: some time. How are you and your family doing this

1676
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: during this pandemic? You guys staying safe? Yep, we're making

1677
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: it that, we're making it. I hope everyone is well there.

1678
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing We're doing good, good, doing good?

1679
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you? What's the most intriguing

1680
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: of these rules changes that we're kind trying to keep

1681
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: track of, you know, I mean, I think if we

1682
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 1: just stick it to the most intriguing the one that

1683
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: you guys just mentioned by the Ravens with the spot

1684
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,919
Speaker 1: and choose, I mean, certainly an intriguing one. It strikes

1685
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: me as one that's probably a little too gimmicky for

1686
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: the owners, and especially the first time around. I mean

1687
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: we've we've seen that the fourth and fifteen, which which

1688
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: probably has a little stronger basis behind it in terms

1689
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: of the reason behind it, what the on side kicking

1690
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 1: and heart it is to get an onside kick, even

1691
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 1: that has been too gimmicky for their owners for the

1692
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: lat past few years. But you know, as the fourth

1693
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: and fifteen has hung around and it sort of gained

1694
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: some sports, so maybe this time, uh, maybe this is

1695
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the time that gets through. Maybe it's still out. But

1696
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: but but in terms of the spot and shoes that

1697
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 1: you talked about, that one really is intriguing. It's really interesting,

1698
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: it's really different. But again, you know, my first reaction

1699
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 1: to it is probably at least the first time so

1700
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: it's going to be too gimmicky for the owners for

1701
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: it to have any sort of realistic chance of being

1702
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: ratified and put into effect next year. Do you Mark

1703
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: have some of the finer details of that rule proposal,

1704
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: because Steve and I are having a tough time getting

1705
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: a grasp on how the team that has to choose

1706
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: the choice to spot the ball doesn't stick it on

1707
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: the other team's one yard line, well basically when it comes. So,

1708
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: so you say, you and I are going into overtime,

1709
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: and and the coin flip will determine who has sort

1710
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: of the first move in this back and forth. It

1711
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: almost reminds me of of sort of name that tune.

1712
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: I can name that tune and three notes, you can

1713
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: name it two And someone says, so in this case,

1714
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of have to come up with

1715
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: an equilibrium of of how far back in your own

1716
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: end you're willing to take the ball and still be

1717
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: on offense. I mean, I think I think we're talking about,

1718
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere around your own fifteen yard line. So so,

1719
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: so say I'm the one who goes first, and I

1720
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: throw that out there, I say, um, the spot of

1721
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: the ball is going to be my own fifteen yard line.

1722
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: You're starting starting from your own fifteen yard line, eighty

1723
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: five yards from the end zone. So you then say, okay,

1724
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I want the ball. I want

1725
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 1: to be on offense, and so it sort of becomes

1726
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: the speca. So if I said, you know, if I said,

1727
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: if I come out and said I want the ball

1728
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: at the you know, if I'm choosing first, and I'm

1729
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: gonna say, the spot of the ball is gonna be

1730
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: the one yard line, one yard from the end zone,

1731
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: where you're gonna say, okay, good, I'll be on offense.

1732
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: So so then if I say the spot of the

1733
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: ball is going to be you know, my own one

1734
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: yard line ninety nine yard from the endzone, you're gonna say, okay,

1735
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on defense. So it becomes sort of

1736
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: the strategic back and forth of you know, the team

1737
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: that goes first has to sort of figure out what

1738
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: the threshold is for how how far you're willing to

1739
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: be away before you jump over them and take the

1740
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: ball first. Well, why wouldn't Why wouldn't the team that

1741
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: wins the coin toss automatically every time put it on

1742
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: the one inch line to their opponent because you don't

1743
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: get to decide whether you're getting the ball or he's

1744
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: getting the ball. Well, obviously he's gonna take the ball.

1745
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: He can't go on defense on his own one yard line.

1746
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: He's got to take the ball, and he's got the

1747
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: longest field possible to go. And in a in a

1748
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: game where statistics say it's going to be a harder score,

1749
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: why would you not put him in the worst possible

1750
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: scenario offense or defense. Because the person who goes second

1751
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: has the choice of offense or defense. So you know,

1752
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 1: just say, I'm gonna come out and say, um, the

1753
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: one yard line. Well, then he's then you're gonna say,

1754
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, okay, well You're You're never gonna be an

1755
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: offense in that tape. You're gonna be on defense. So

1756
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting myself in a bad situation. But I don't

1757
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 1: have to say the one yard line. I can say

1758
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line. Well, the choice is this. The

1759
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: choice is this. If I win the toss and I

1760
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 1: get to choose where the spot of the ball is,

1761
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the ball in the worst possible scenario

1762
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: for my opponent, which would be his own one yard line,

1763
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: and then I make his choice for him. But yeah, yeah,

1764
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: you can essentially make a choice for him. But again,

1765
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you may want the ball first,

1766
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: so you may want to come up with a and

1767
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 1: especially if a sudden death overtime, so you want to

1768
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: you may want to come up with a yard line

1769
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: that makes it a difficult choice. Obviously, if you say

1770
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: you know the one yard line, well then your opponent's

1771
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, you know, I'm gonna be on defense.

1772
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: You're ninety nine yards from the end zone. You have

1773
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: the ball at your own one yard line. I'm gonna

1774
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: play defense, force you to punt, and I'm gonna try

1775
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: to win. So so Mark, I think, I think the

1776
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,480
Speaker 1: block for Steve and I is we're under the impression

1777
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: that you can spot the ball on any of any

1778
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: yard line you want where it seems well, well, let's

1779
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: do it once. But let's let's do it as an exercise.

1780
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: One's me against you guys. Okay, okay, we we we

1781
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: win the coin flip. H I get to in this scenario,

1782
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose the spot of the ball, and then

1783
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: you guys choose offens or defense. Okay, So so I

1784
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: win the coin flip. I choose the spot. I'm going

1785
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: to say the fifteen yard line, eighty five yards from

1786
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: the end zone. Now you guys choose from the end

1787
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: zone that we're taking well that the thing. Now you

1788
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: you guys decide are you on offense or defense? Do

1789
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: you want the ball on offense from your fifteen yard line?

1790
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Or do you want to do on defense with me

1791
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: at the fifteen years? So wait a minute, we don't

1792
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: know which side, We don't know which your zones whose

1793
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: or what what I mean? Don't you you don't have

1794
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 1: an end of the field picked? Well, I mean that's

1795
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 1: that's that's sort that's sort of a separate part of it.

1796
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, who who's gonna pick which end of the field. No,

1797
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: the yard line that I'm picking is say the plus

1798
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: fifteen or the minus fifteen? You know, I'm not, you know,

1799
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: And then then you have to sort of make a

1800
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: decision on you know, do you want to be on

1801
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: offense or defense at that point? Right, But I'd like

1802
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: to know which end zone I'm closer to, though mine

1803
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: or or the opponents. You. Yes, you will know that

1804
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: that when I picked the yard line, you will know that.

1805
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: So I will say the fifteen yard line eighty five

1806
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: yards from the end zone. That's the point. That's the

1807
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 1: spot of the ball that I'm picking. Now you decide

1808
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: do you want the ball at your own fifteen yard line,

1809
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,560
Speaker 1: or do you want to be on defense with the

1810
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: other team at their own tip? Okay, all right, here's

1811
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: here's another element to this. Who chooses, Like say, for instance,

1812
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: we're playing in Buffalo in December, and you need to

1813
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,560
Speaker 1: pick an end of the field, right right? No, No,

1814
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: that that part you know that that certainly will have

1815
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: to be spelled out in the rule. I don't you know.

1816
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: I havn't had attence to go through the rule yet

1817
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: in terms of to see how how that part of

1818
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: it plays. Oh, yeah, you're right. That is certainly gonna

1819
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: have to be any consideration. It's gonna be have to

1820
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 1: end there. It's gonna be have to be figured out.

1821
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,480
Speaker 1: But I think that will be kind of a separate mechanism.

1822
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: If you have a weather game, you know, if you

1823
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: have something like that where the end of the field

1824
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: really matters, Yes, that will certainly play into it. That

1825
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: will factor into it. Was maybe fat for some game,

1826
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 1: certainly factor into the decision making. But but but I'm

1827
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: not able to tell you as we sit here right

1828
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: now sort of how that part of the process. Yeah,

1829
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: all right, so I want to I want to move

1830
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 1: on to the Bill's proposal which is, you know, no

1831
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 1: head coaching interviews or for that matter, coordinator interviews, promotional interviews.

1832
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if it work m everything until after

1833
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: the conference championship games and no hirings until after the

1834
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. As much as I like the proposal, the

1835
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: common refrain we're hearing from opponents of it is how

1836
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: the hell do you enforce that across the league and

1837
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: keep teams from you know, back channeling and you know,

1838
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: trying to set things up even before that window that

1839
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: the Bills are proposing. I like the idea, I just

1840
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: don't know how you enforce it. No. I think that's right,

1841
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's ultimately what will be sort of

1842
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: what the discussion is among ownership and why you know

1843
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: that that one probably faces a little bit of an

1844
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: uphill clomb. The other issue to me is, you know, yes,

1845
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: this is a great idea for everyone, that this probably

1846
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: makes it fairer for everyone, for every coach and every

1847
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: GM came to down out there. But right now the

1848
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: NFL is really focused on you know, how do we

1849
01:43:58,240 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking I'm talking about the NFL. How

1850
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: do we, as the NFL you fix this minority hiring issue?

1851
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: How do we get more diversity into the ranks, And

1852
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: this is not really a proposal that specifically addresses that. Now, look,

1853
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 1: in the particular circumstances we were just in in the

1854
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: past season, you know that that may have very well

1855
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: helped Derek the Enemy. It certainly might have helped Todd

1856
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Bowles quite a bit. It could have helped you know,

1857
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: the people on the Bills staff. Yes, in certain circumstances

1858
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: that and in the circumstances we were in this past season,

1859
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,799
Speaker 1: that would have helped minority coaches. But in general, it's

1860
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 1: not a proposal that's targeted towards improving the chances of

1861
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: minority coaches addressing this diversity issue that the NFL has

1862
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 1: not been able to really make much headway on. So

1863
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,759
Speaker 1: I really think that is the focus now of the league,

1864
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: and that's what the league is going to try to

1865
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: get the owners to focus on in terms of any

1866
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: proposals that are aimed at the hiring process. And again,

1867
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: this one doesn't really specifically address that. I'm not saying

1868
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: this is a bad proposal. I think this is probably

1869
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,560
Speaker 1: a system that if you couldn't where city, if you

1870
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: could find a way to make sure that people aren't

1871
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 1: circumvating the rules. It would be more fair to everyone.

1872
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 1: It would be more fair to the coaches, the assistance

1873
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: on the teams that have the most success, and they're

1874
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: still playing at the end of the postseason. So uh yeah, again,

1875
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: I think it has some problems. I think it's it's

1876
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: something that's been talked about in the past. I think

1877
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: it's something that certain has merit to it, that certainly

1878
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,759
Speaker 1: has a fairness element to it that probably would improve everything.

1879
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: But for those couple of reasons, I think it sort

1880
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: of faces an uphill climb to be approved during this offseason,

1881
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: in this cycle of consideration of rule change. There is

1882
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 1: also some positive to this, and that the coaches that

1883
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: are being replaced have a better chance of seeing the

1884
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: end of the full season without having that upheaval. Owners

1885
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: would have no incentive to get a headstart knowing that

1886
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 1: they can't interview active coaching candidates until the seasons of

1887
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 1: those teams are over and pass the conference championship games,

1888
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,799
Speaker 1: and I think also would it would help those staffs

1889
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: as well. And I just I just think it's a

1890
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: there's some things about it that that make a lot

1891
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: of sense in that also when an owner is considering

1892
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: making a head coaching change, they would have to think

1893
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: about the time frame that they're going to have between

1894
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 1: the time they fire their their last head coach and

1895
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 1: hire the next one. There's no getting a headstart on

1896
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: other teams so that every team can have a level

1897
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: playing field. Now, certainly it may push it back a

1898
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or maybe one month on the hiring cycle,

1899
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: but at the end of it, it forces owners to

1900
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and not make a snap higher

1901
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: just because they want to get a headstart or hire

1902
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: somebody that nobody else can talk to. No that and

1903
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: those are good points. And when when you talk to

1904
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: people you know who who want to make this a

1905
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 1: fairer process for everyone, for not just minority candidates, but

1906
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: for all coaches, for all GM in front office candide,

1907
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: they always talk about slowing down the process. Can we

1908
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: find a way to slow down the process that the

1909
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 1: teams can sit back, you know, consider all candidates, consider

1910
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,600
Speaker 1: a variety of candidates that include minority candidates. Can you

1911
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: create a time frame where there is sort of a

1912
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: broad search, a search that that doesn't feel like you

1913
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 1: know it's russ, where you know everyone's trying to get

1914
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: the same two or three guys. So you have to

1915
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 1: be the one to jump out first and hire first.

1916
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: And the question is does this create that because but

1917
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 1: because yes, on the front end, you know, you create

1918
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: that gap. Now presumably if you're hiring a new head

1919
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: coach or a new GM, you're probably not in the playoffs,

1920
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have this gap between the end of

1921
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 1: the regular season and the completion of the conference championships

1922
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: games to just sort of sit there and and and

1923
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 1: the idea would be, you do your due diligence, you

1924
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: have you do research on candidates. You sort of have

1925
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 1: this broader, hopefully diverse slate of candidates so that you're

1926
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: ready to hit the ground running when you're able to.

1927
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 1: The problem is to me, then all of a sudden,

1928
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: now you've pushed it all back, and if everybody starting

1929
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, so you're still going to have

1930
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: this mad rush right after the conference championship game to

1931
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: get all these guys inpreneurs and then this mad rush

1932
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: this competition right after the Super Bowl where the process

1933
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 1: is still sped up. You know, we have to go first.

1934
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: We have to be the one to get the guy

1935
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 1: because there's only two or three guys that everyone wants,

1936
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: so we have to, you know, get out ahead of it.

1937
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: So you know, again, I think there are elements to

1938
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: this proposal that are really good, that are really could

1939
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: be very helpful to the process. But as we've talked

1940
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: about enforcement as part of the problem, and you have

1941
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: to really think it through and say, is this really

1942
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: going to create a system that's going to be better?

1943
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: And particularly right now at this point in time, are

1944
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: are you doing anything to help push along the diversity

1945
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: efforts that the league has is trying to push along

1946
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: and just can't seem to get over the hump with

1947
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: the final decision making by the clubs and the owners.

1948
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: Talking to Washington Post NFL columnist Mark Maski about some

1949
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: of these proposed rule changes for the NFL being submitted

1950
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: by teams for the owners meetings at the end of

1951
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 1: March and the roughing the passer review rule proposal, Mark,

1952
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but this one seems like

1953
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: a dead on arrival one, especially knowing that in the

1954
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: not too distant past they had another judgment call pass

1955
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: interference gets subject to review, and that thing fell flat

1956
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: horribly at the discernment of the officials. You know that

1957
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean, I think that one

1958
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: is going to have a hard time getting through for

1959
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: the reason that you said. Look, you know, every year

1960
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: we get to this time time of year, and remember

1961
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: that that right now, the proposals are just what individual

1962
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: teams have put in. We haven't really seen what the

1963
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Competition Committee itself is going to sort of say endorsed

1964
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: not endorsed in which the proposals of its own, the

1965
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: Competition Committee will come up with. So we're not to

1966
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: that point in the process yet, but it's sort of

1967
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 1: this early point in the process. I think every year

1968
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: we see teams sort of throwing out a category or

1969
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: a batch of penalties that they want to come under

1970
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: the umbrella of instant replay and be reviewable. You know.

1971
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 1: In other years, we've seen proposals for all personal fouls

1972
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: being reviewable. We've seen proposals for you know, illegal hits

1973
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: being reviewable. We've seen, you know, proposals that you know,

1974
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: the famous Bill Belichick proposal that that you know, everything

1975
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: should be reviewable. Those that are called and those are

1976
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: not called, and you just you know, are limited by

1977
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: the number of times you can use it. But not

1978
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 1: limited in any way on what you can use it on.

1979
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: So so yeah, we're going to see these proposals. We're

1980
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: always going to see them. They always face an uphill

1981
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: climb the particular circumstances of replay for past interference, you know,

1982
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: coming after the Saints NFC title game and that miscall,

1983
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: that's what pushed it through that time. And you know,

1984
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: it didn't go well. I think, you know, we got

1985
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 1: to the end of that season. I don't think anybody

1986
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 1: was happy with that. I don't think you know, players

1987
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 1: are coaches, and particular fans, we're not happy with that.

1988
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: It didn't go well. It was just so difficult for

1989
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: there to be a consistent standard from from one game

1990
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: to the next, even from one play to the next,

1991
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: or on what should be you know, change overturned on

1992
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 1: instant replay when it came to a judgment call like

1993
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: past interference. Now, I think the thinking behind this is

1994
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: that this this, while while still being a judgment call,

1995
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 1: a subjective call, maybe you could write the rule in

1996
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: such a way where it's a little bit less subjective.

1997
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: But I think that's very difficult. I think, you know,

1998
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 1: you're getting into the same kind of thing with the

1999
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: replay for past interference, and that's still pretty fresh in

2000
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: everyone's mind. I don't think there are gonna be many

2001
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: people in the NFL who are going to want to

2002
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: go down that path again, and especially not Mark. You

2003
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: covered the NFL mostly for the Washington football team for

2004
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety eight. What do you think needs to

2005
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: be fixed in the NFL? You know, I mean, first

2006
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 1: of all, I mean, I think the world need the

2007
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: fix to the you know, that's the first thing that

2008
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed in the NFL. We're coming off

2009
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: this season. You know that that was played in a

2010
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: pandemic where everything was so different, where everything was so difficult.

2011
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 1: You know. I almost think that the game one that

2012
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: was on the field last season itself was pretty good

2013
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 1: and where you just sort of had, you know, the

2014
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: world broken and all these other things wrong, and that

2015
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: obviously affected football. So to me, I mean, I think

2016
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: the fifess of everybody just you know, has to be

2017
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: this offseason should probably be, you know, let's just get

2018
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 1: the world fixed. Let's get as many people faccinated as

2019
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: we can. Let's get people back into the stands, Let's

2020
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 1: get sort of you know, football that's way more normal

2021
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 1: place because the world gets back to a more normal place.

2022
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: You know, I thought the game on the field was

2023
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 1: very good last season. You know, I don't think we

2024
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 1: saw a lot of ill effects from the fact that

2025
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: there weren't offseason practices, from the fact that there wasn't

2026
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: a preseason last year. We can probably learn something from

2027
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: some of the things and take some of those things forward.

2028
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 1: But to me, you know, the first step is just

2029
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: getting through this offseason again, figuring it our way to

2030
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: get through it, seeing how many people can be vaccinated,

2031
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: getting rid up some of these protocols, probably keeping others

2032
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: in place, and finding a way to get back in

2033
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: the stands again. To me, that's what needs to be

2034
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: fixed about the NFL, And it really has less to

2035
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: do about the NFL than than sort of getting the

2036
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: country fixed and getting the world fixed right now as

2037
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 1: we try to come out of this pandemic. Last one

2038
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 1: for me mark the Washington football team. Obviously they've already

2039
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: parted ways with Dwayne Haskins, who's now in Pittsburgh. The

2040
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 1: talk is that Alex Smith will be clipped along with

2041
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: a host of other veterans around the league with this

2042
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: restrictive cap. What is the plan going forward at quarterback

2043
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: with because that would just leave Taylor Heineke is the

2044
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 1: only guy in the roster, right, you know, Kyle Allen

2045
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 1: also saw all right, that's a great question. I mean,

2046
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the cutting Alex Smith is

2047
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: probably the right movement of that was you know, one

2048
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: of the great field of good stories of the twenty

2049
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: twenty season. Though just the second he stepped back on

2050
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: the field he became the comeback player of the year.

2051
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 1: We're not we're not talking about a guy who just

2052
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: had you know, sort of a career threatening leg injury.

2053
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 1: We're talking about guy who had life threatening complications off

2054
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: of that career threatening leg injury. So it was a

2055
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: great story. But going forward, I mean, I think we

2056
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: saw the end of the year he was going to

2057
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: have a hard time staying on the field, even though

2058
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: the team played well with him there. I think it's

2059
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 1: the right movement, especially when you take in saving almost

2060
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars against the cap. It's the right move

2061
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: to move on because now you're talking about a team,

2062
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, in year one for run Vera that looked

2063
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 1: like suddenly a pretty good team around the quarterback. All

2064
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden you know, you're looking at a team

2065
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: where if you can find a way to solve quarterback,

2066
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 1: you have a lot of the other elements in place,

2067
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: not all of them. You know, I'm not talking about you.

2068
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: And you know you have a Super Bowl contendent all

2069
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden, but you have suddenly a solid team

2070
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: that can contend for playoffs on a relatively annual basis

2071
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: if you can fix quarterback. The problem is, how are

2072
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: you going to fix quarterback? And they made an offer

2073
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: in the Matthew Stafford sweepstakes, weren't able to get them,

2074
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: even though you know, the first round pick that they

2075
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 1: put out there, it was probably a better first round pick.

2076
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: But but but still, there's just nowhere left to go.

2077
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's gonna be the Saun Watson.

2078
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 1: I guess it could be Sam Donald, but I'm not

2079
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: sure there's going to be anything out there. I'm not

2080
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: sure in terms of the draft, you're in the position

2081
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: that they're in, they're going to be able to go

2082
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: in and bring in someone that can fix it right away.

2083
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: My guess is this is going to be at least

2084
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: a one year situation. Of the two guys we just

2085
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: talked about Tyle Alan and Telehanicky trying to find a

2086
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: way to get through a year with those two and reevaluate. Now,

2087
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of movement, you know, a

2088
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 1: lot of dismovelies to that move lees of that move

2089
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: in the quarterback situation in this offseason. Maybe the trickle

2090
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: down of that will leave someone available to the Washington

2091
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 1: football team, But Mike guesses it's going to be very

2092
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: difficult for them to come out of this with the

2093
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 1: sort of you know, the type of guy that you

2094
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 1: say is a franchise quarterback. Now we're set at this position.

2095
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 1: Now we sort of stay with this for the next

2096
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: ten years and hope that the team around him is

2097
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: good enough. My guess is right now, looking at it,

2098
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at sort of a placeholder year with those

2099
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: two guys and that are reevaluated the year from now.

2100
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: Mark has always thanks for the time. We appreciate the

2101
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: insight on the rules proposals. Thanks very much, appreciate it.

2102
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Guys stick here, all right. That's Mark Maski, NFL columnist

2103
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: for the Washington Post. Doesn't look like he's been privy

2104
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 1: to the finer points of some of the detail. There's

2105
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: a lot of spot and choose proposal because he didn't

2106
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 1: really have an answer. Well, yeah, there's something, there's somebody

2107
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 1: something that we'd forgotten about. Well, if you got to

2108
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: choose an end of the field, right, so maybe when

2109
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: the yard line is chosen, like let's just say you

2110
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: choose the twenty yard line, you're not choosing a side

2111
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: of the field. You're only choosing a yard line, right,

2112
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: and the other team picking offense or defense? Like, if

2113
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 1: you pick the twenty and they pick offense, does that

2114
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: mean they're picking their own twenty or you're twenty? That's

2115
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: what's unclear. Yeah, and also which end of the field

2116
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 1: is it? Well, right, you're twenty or they're twenty. If

2117
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: you pick offense, Like how you you They said the twenty,

2118
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 1: now you say offense, So what are you which side

2119
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 1: of the field? Right? And that's the thing too, do

2120
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: you pick say, for instance, if it's a really windy day,

2121
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, you pick the short end into the wind.

2122
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: So that they got well, we gotta do it, but

2123
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: we gotta kick this field. If we're gonna win this

2124
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: with a field goal, we're gonna kick it into the wind.

2125
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 1: And you know that all that kind of thing I

2126
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: don't get that. I don't know how you pick a

2127
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: spot on the field not knowing which direction, because then

2128
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: you just put in the middle of the field. Yeah,

2129
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: pick the fifty every time. Yeah, I mean that only

2130
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 1: gives them what fifteen year and then sudden death too.

2131
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: So that's I mean that to me is there's some

2132
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 1: circumstances there that defy the logic of this proposal, because

2133
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 1: if you and if you pick an end of the field,

2134
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 1: if you could put it down the twenty, it's a

2135
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 1: field goal. Game over. If you're the Baltimore Ravens and

2136
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: you know you got your kicker justin Tucker, game over,

2137
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: We'll take the ball right there and we're kicking it in,

2138
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that doesn't make any sense to me.

2139
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 1: You got to have an end zone or somebody already

2140
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 1: has to into the field they have. I want to

2141
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: believe the full written, worded verbiage of this proposal will

2142
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: spell all of that out, because I can't believe that

2143
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens go in with with the with the rules

2144
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 1: reading as simply as they have been portrayed on Pro

2145
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 1: football Talk dot com. It's clear that Mark Maski doesn't

2146
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: have all the details of it either and you talk

2147
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: as you talk your way through it, you run into

2148
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: roadblocks at every every time without some certain information that

2149
01:58:56,600 --> 01:59:01,879
Speaker 1: we don't have. And with his inkling that the Washington

2150
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: football team in all likelihood's gonna go with Kyle Allen

2151
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 1: and Taylor Heineke, who, to his credit, played valiantly in

2152
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Taylor Heinekey, he had a game um in

2153
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, they didn't win, but he played admirably.

2154
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't. But if they're going with those two guys,

2155
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys resigned Dak Prescott. That division is game set

2156
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: match to Dallas because Daniel Jones, Jalen hurts, and either

2157
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Heineke or Kyle Allen thanks for coming. Dak Prescott's sewing

2158
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: up the division in a hurt out playing Dak Prescott

2159
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: not not next year now, Dallas's defense can't be a

2160
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: train wreck for a second year in a row. But still,

2161
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott plays sixteen games for the Cowboys. Just sew

2162
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 1: up the division now, Yeah, Like, I'm totally with you that.

2163
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: And you can say what you want about Daniel Jones,

2164
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 1: um he of the stumbling, bumbling I'm sorry in fifteen

2165
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: yard line, bro Steve, We're gonna get back to the

2166
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 1: same thing we talked about with Tua. Where are the

2167
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 1: elite traits? I get you, I'm with you. Washington is

2168
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 1: intriguing because he had he mentioned he throughout Sam Darnold

2169
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 1: and threw out Shaun Watson. I hadn't even thought about

2170
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Washington throwing in some assets for Sam Darnold. I could too,

2171
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean for them. I think the Jets are nuts

2172
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 1: to do it, but they could. Yeah, they could. I

2173
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: was listening to some podcasts about quarterbacks. There's going to

2174
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 1: be a couple of quarterbacks can really play in this draft. Yes, so,

2175
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: but the Jets would have to, you know, like you said,

2176
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: the Jets would rewind three years and start over again

2177
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: with a new rookie quarterback and a new head coach,

2178
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 1: which they've done all too many times before. So yes, oof. Indeed,

2179
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if and Sam Darnold might

2180
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: be their guy, and they still don't have an I

2181
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 1: don't hit the eject button on him yet. That's hard

2182
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 1: for me to do. Two And I don't know the guy,

2183
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just coached him, and he might

2184
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 1: get some feedback from the coaching stats that you've had

2185
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 1: in there, would there have been two that may give

2186
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 1: you some like, I don't know this guy can do it.

2187
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Adam Gates must give one three twenty three.

2188
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 1: All right, we have to take a break, but when

2189
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: we come back, some details on the agreement reached between

2190
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger took a haircut. We'll

2191
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 1: get you the details on that, along with the final

2192
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: comments from you on the tweet sheet. With these rules proposals,

2193
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: both of those things coming your way, and when we

2194
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health,

2195
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

2196
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown's Feet Dat Too with you took us almost

2197
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: the whole show, but I think we are finally getting

2198
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: around to how this rules proposal is crafted, which I

2199
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 1: was trying to get from Mark Masky, but he wasn't

2200
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 1: even certain because he hasn't seen the full letter of

2201
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 1: the language on this Ravens proposal of spot and choose.

2202
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: But it has to be this way, ye basically, And

2203
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: and thanks to Justin who sent us a tweet trying

2204
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: to explain this um the Ravens proposal if your team

2205
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: as and you pick the spot and say the one

2206
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 1: yard line, team B who picks offense or defense says okay,

2207
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 1: I pick um I what let me see? What does

2208
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: he say? Yeah? Yeah, you picked defense and you and

2209
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: your other team, the team that picked the one yard

2210
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 1: line now has to go ninety nine yards. So under

2211
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 1: that I was correct in asking Mark Maski. So the

2212
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: team that is picking the spot of the ball is

2213
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 1: not picking side of the field. You're just arbitrarily picking

2214
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 1: a yard line and you're picking. Yes, you are. You're

2215
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 1: saying if the ball's here, no, no, I just go

2216
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 1: in that direction. And then they get to pick which

2217
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 1: side of the ball they pick. See that's the that's

2218
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: what we didn't know. Well, they're not picking side of

2219
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 1: the field. They're just picking a yard line. You're picking

2220
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 1: the one and then it's up to the opponent. But

2221
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: you're also picking this the end zone that is the

2222
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 1: object of that drive because you have to pick a direction.

2223
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you are because the other team because

2224
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 1: picking offensior defense. No no, yes, but no no no,

2225
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:39,240
Speaker 1: they pick offensior defense, but they don't pick like you

2226
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 1: pick not only where the ball is spotted, but also

2227
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: which direct which end zone is the scoring end zone.

2228
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: So if you put the ball in one yard line,

2229
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: you're automatic. You're saying that other end zone at the

2230
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: other end of the field is the end zone. Now,

2231
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,880
Speaker 1: if the other team gets to pick offens or defense,

2232
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: see what I mean. So now if so you're picking

2233
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: all right, but you're not picking you're saying one yard line.

2234
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 1: But you don't have the power of saying whether you're

2235
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 1: going in or coming out. I think you do. How

2236
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: do you if the other team can pick offens or defense? Well,

2237
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: because you pick all right, it's this way and you're

2238
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 1: coming out your offense coming out, and the other team

2239
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,400
Speaker 1: can say, you know what, we'll take defense. So if

2240
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: you're if you go downsight, but they're gonna say defense

2241
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:26,839
Speaker 1: defending a ninety nine yard field, right, which would preclude

2242
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: you from picking the one yard line. Right. That's where

2243
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: you get into the thought process before we pick the

2244
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 1: yard line, because you and I initially thought we could

2245
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 1: pick the one yard line of the other team of

2246
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 1: the goal they're defending closest to the goal they're defending,

2247
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 1: and we're saying one yard line, and then they say

2248
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 1: offense because if they pick half a pick offense because

2249
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: they're not picking defense defending at their own one yard line.

2250
02:04:52,120 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: But that is not how this is going to read.

2251
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 1: It's going into red. Pick a yard line, and they

2252
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 1: based on picking offense or defense, determines the end of

2253
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know whether the field. I don't know

2254
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: who picks which you know received, I don't know how

2255
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 1: you pick which end of the fields. Which It's almost

2256
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 1: as if once you get to overtime, the end zone

2257
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 1: you're defending and the end zone you're trying to score

2258
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: in has not been declared unless it's been carried over

2259
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 1: from the fourth quarter. Then you know, I don't think

2260
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 1: so under that proposal, right, because you would pick the

2261
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 1: one yard line going in every time we gonna knew

2262
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 1: what end zone you were trying to score on, that

2263
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 1: would be the yard line you pick. Right, So as

2264
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 1: you get to overtime, no, no, no, no, no no no,

2265
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I have not declared a side of the field you're defending. Yeah,

2266
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 1: that's I get. Here's the thing. If you're gonna make

2267
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 1: do this, this is bad radio. I hate to say.

2268
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: I know the end zone has to be your end zone.

2269
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 1: The other end zone cannot be declared declared but of

2270
02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: whatever offensive team's gonna take does. So you're saying, spot

2271
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 1: the ball where you want it. You said, I want

2272
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 1: it this way, and it's got to go this that's

2273
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 1: the end zone. So if the offense is gonna take over,

2274
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 1: it's this ball spotted here, they're going that way. Do

2275
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 1: you want the ball? Do you want to play defense?

2276
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. So in

2277
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: most cases, you're going to probably say owned twenty because

2278
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 1: either one of those scenarios is not an end of

2279
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: the game situation because you're either defending eighty yards right

2280
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 1: or you have possession with eighty yards to go. I mean,

2281
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 1: that's probably what most teams are going to safely choose. Yeah,

2282
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 1: got analytics people saying it's like between twelve and fourteen

2283
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 1: yard line. I don't know about that. That's pretty that's

2284
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: pretty deep. But by the same time, you get that

2285
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:45,080
Speaker 1: on the kickoff all the time. Yeah, which is why

2286
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: to me it would be your own twenty yard line.

2287
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: You want offense or defense, That's how I think it's

2288
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 1: probably going to go. That is which is where we

2289
02:06:56,560 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: got hung up because I could not get side of

2290
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 1: the field. We're defending, we know which side of the

2291
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 1: field we're scoring on. But when you get overtime, that's

2292
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: all off the table because you're not flipping a coin

2293
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: and declaring who's got the ball, what end you're defending.

2294
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 1: You're flipping the coin and deciding what yard line you

2295
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 1: want to pick, and then knowing the other teams picking

2296
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 1: offense or but you also do have to you know,

2297
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: you're picking into the field for the offense because well

2298
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 1: you're picking into the field. Now, think about it. If

2299
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 1: you got this big wind going left to right, that

2300
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: comes into your into the factor, you know what I mean.

2301
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: If you're gonna take the wind, deal, conditions will play,

2302
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: and you want the ball, You're gonna pick the wind

2303
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 1: and the ball. So you're gonna put that thing further

2304
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 1: and further back to force the other team to say, well,

2305
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: they're going wall the way back. We'll yeah, we'll give

2306
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 1: them the wind, but we're gonna you know, you'd almost

2307
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 1: have to go back inside the five yard line in

2308
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: some situations in Buffalo, right right. Yeah, It's just I

2309
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 1: don't think it changes the conversation terribly. And they're also

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Speaker 1: they have two versions of this posal. One is sudden

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Speaker 1: death and the other is not. So you don't gain

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Speaker 1: anything by doing that. Yeah, I don't know that. It's

2313
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: a long way to go to eliminate the arbitrary nature

2314
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Speaker 1: of the coin flip determining the first possession. Yeah, that's

2315
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: the thing. I think we're working really hard. It seems

2316
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Speaker 1: to me. I got there's a couple of because at

2317
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 1: the coin flip, there's a lot of choices that have

2318
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 1: to be made. It's not just kick and receive, it's

2319
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: also which end of the field? Yes, yeah, see you're

2320
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 1: bringing that up, which, at least as far as we

2321
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 1: have read this rule, it's not taking that into account.

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02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 1: So who gets the third choice, which is the end

2323
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: of the field, Because we've chosen spot, and we've chosen

2324
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: offense and defense, but nobody's picked which end of the field.

2325
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Speaker 1: So who gets that choice? The guy that picked first.

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02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 1: So now you get to pick yard line, which end

2327
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 1: of the field, and the guy that picks second only

2328
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: gets offense defense choice. If the wind is a critical fact,

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02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 1: then you do it to yourself. You say you'll balls

2330
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 1: on the one yard line coming out with the wind

2331
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 1: at this back. The other team goes and feel that

2332
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 1: good about it, Then when they say, well, they can't

2333
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 1: kick a field goal into that wind. Yeah. Think about

2334
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 1: the game they played in Denver, where I can't remember

2335
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 1: the gentleman's name. Is his first NFL game ever, and

2336
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 1: he missed three kicks for the Broncos against the Bills

2337
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 1: and the forty six point route. You know, yeah, you

2338
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: know that's what you're looking at. This is making my

2339
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: head hurt. It is. That's why I want to stop

2340
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:42,960
Speaker 1: talking about it's not going to pass. I can because

2341
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 1: if it makes my head hurt, it's not going to pass.

2342
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: All right, we have to take a break. But when

2343
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: we return some news on von Miller concerning his future

2344
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,880
Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. We will bring that to you

2345
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 1: in What have we Learned? Next? Here on one Bills

2346
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 1: Live presented by Collid to Health Buffalo Bills Radio. Now,

2347
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm for what have we Learned? Brought to you by Skyworks,

2348
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills,

2349
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: And we mentioned about Ben Roethlisberger taking a little bit

2350
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:26,400
Speaker 1: of a haircut. It's essentially a one year deal with

2351
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:29,680
Speaker 1: four voidable years after that. In an effort to spread

2352
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:34,360
Speaker 1: out his cap hit and push things further into the future,

2353
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 1: but he did take a five million dollars haircut on

2354
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 1: his salary, which has gone from nineteen million to fourteen

2355
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 1: million real pay cut. Not pushing money and restructuring. He

2356
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 1: just took a five million dollar haircut. And then there's

2357
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 1: von Miller New Denver GM. George Patton on bringing in

2358
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,880
Speaker 1: competition first for Drew Locke, he said, quote, obviously did

2359
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 1: a deep dive Withdrew. He's very talented, was consistent at times,

2360
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 1: has a lot to work on. I've spoken with Drew.

2361
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 1: He's here every day, he's here early. He really wants

2362
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: to be great. That doesn't mean they're not bringing in competition. Yeah,

2363
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 1: you don't get it. You don't get to do that

2364
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Patton on von Miller's seven million dollar

2365
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 1: option as well as the criminal investigation, he said, quote,

2366
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 1: we're still working through it with Von and his agent.

2367
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: We want to bring Von back. Obviously the legal process

2368
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 1: it's a serious situation. I don't know all the details,

2369
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:33,600
Speaker 1: but we do want von Miller back. So it looks

2370
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:36,360
Speaker 1: like they're still working out the seven million to guaranteed

2371
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,480
Speaker 1: option on his deal. He's a twenty two and two

2372
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 1: point twenty two point two five million dollar cap hit

2373
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 1: this year, set to be paid seventeen and a half

2374
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,840
Speaker 1: in base salary this year. I don't know if that's

2375
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 1: tenable as far as the Broncos are concerned, And as

2376
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 1: it pertains to his criminal investigation, Von Miller is under

2377
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:59,040
Speaker 1: criminal investigation by Colorado police but has not been charged

2378
02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 1: with a crime, and the authorities are not commenting on

2379
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 1: the nature of the allegations because they haven't completed their investigation.

2380
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 1: And the media out there has reported that it's possible

2381
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 1: that it could be connected to Miller's ex fiance's screenshots

2382
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: that she released of disturbing messages she allegedly received from

2383
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 1: von Miller. So, in case you're interested, and i'm the

2384
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 1: Broncos have got forty four million dollars in cap space,

2385
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 1: so there's that they could make it work. They can

2386
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 1: make it work. But on a larger scale, Yeah, that's

2387
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 1: not really good for teams looking to sign. Yeah, if

2388
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: it's of a domestic nature, that's that's not good because

2389
02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,840
Speaker 1: as we know the NFL, even if someone's not convicted

2390
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 1: of charges, they can still face NFL discipline, right, which

2391
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: means you could be without von Miller if you sign them.

2392
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: To your team, right, they don't have to prove anything. Yeah,

2393
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 1: so that's a little bit of a fly in the

2394
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 1: ointment for a talent like von Villette. But you know,

2395
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,320
Speaker 1: I got two years old and is also coming off

2396
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:10,600
Speaker 1: a dislocated perineal tendon in his ankle. I got I

2397
02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 1: still gotta say. I gotta tip my hat and give

2398
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 1: you a little golf clap to Ben Roethlisberger taking a

2399
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 1: five million dollars you know, haircut to help the Steelers

2400
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, he could have walked away. Yea, he

2401
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 1: still wants to play. He knew it was untenable. He

2402
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 1: gave the Steelers every bit of what they really want

2403
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 1: and they you know, five million bucks of cap room. Certainly,

2404
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play for free. But um, good

2405
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:33,240
Speaker 1: for him. I think the Steelers did the right thing.

2406
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:35,800
Speaker 1: They need that guy going forward. They have nobody better

2407
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 1: and no alternatives at this point in history. It's a

2408
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 1: bad situation, but Ben's given him a chance, and hopefully

2409
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,120
Speaker 1: they'll get him some offensive lineman and that offense will

2410
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:46,919
Speaker 1: click a little bit better. Yep. Another veteran cut, Thomas Morristead,

2411
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: punter for the Saints. Cut saves three and a half

2412
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: million dollars. More will follow. Steve and I'll see tomorrow

2413
02:13:52,240 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. We'll catch a Friday its

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Speaker 1: best fil