Speaker 1: Second Date, up Date. I saw a TikTok recently that said,
Speaker 1: if you're on the dating apps right now, it's like
Speaker 1: the last chopper out of Vietnam. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: it was actually working. You could find quality matches on
Speaker 1: there that weren't Russian bots. But now it's like wading
Speaker 1: through the wet trash compactor that Luke Skywalker got dumped
Speaker 1: into on the Death Star.
Speaker 2: So many analogies here that I don't quite understand.
Speaker 1: It's a gloomy, dark scene on the dating apps right now,
Speaker 1: and one of our listeners says that he is just
Speaker 1: about done with it. If we can't reconnect him with
Speaker 1: the woman that he went out with last week, he
Speaker 1: might be done completely.
Speaker 2: Is a straw that's going to break the camel's back,
Speaker 2: like some sort of an everybody.
Speaker 1: It's nice to have one from like this century, but.
Speaker 3: That's okayout Vietnam.
Speaker 1: So his name is Thomas Thomas, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: That's honest. I know that your email was very down
Speaker 1: on yourself, but maybe you were just like super emotional.
Speaker 1: You don't actually mean that you're ready to give up
Speaker 1: on the apps, entirely, are you.
Speaker 4: I've been on these dating ass now for about two years,
Speaker 4: and I mean, I'm just losing hope. It's just gotten
Speaker 4: worse and worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, such a ray of positivity.
Speaker 4: Okay, I listen. I started out in it with plenty
Speaker 4: of hope, but I'm losing it now because I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm asking for much like I
Speaker 4: just want somebody that I get along with, that I
Speaker 4: share things.
Speaker 1: Okay, slow down with your long list of demands with
Speaker 1: the perfect woman.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I've been doing things right
Speaker 4: and I've had good conversations with women. You know, We've
Speaker 4: had some things in common. There seems to be a
Speaker 4: spark and that I don't hear back from them, or
Speaker 4: they don't even show up.
Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah, wait, did this woman show up for you?
Speaker 3: You you said you would have Norman.
Speaker 4: Did this woman?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 4: Her name is Diane?
Speaker 1: Diane?
Speaker 4: I put so much into this date.
Speaker 2: Can I ask, right off the bat, did you complain
Speaker 2: about the scene, the dating.
Speaker 1: Scene the entire time.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to cut to the chase here.
Speaker 4: No, No, I did not. We we honestly, we had
Speaker 4: a wonderful date. We went to this Mediterranean restaurant, okay,
Speaker 4: and she had a beautiful smile. There's great eye contact,
Speaker 4: like she wasn't on her phone the whole time. She's
Speaker 4: actually listening and interacting.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming you're going in with zero expectations, since
Speaker 2: you don't have much faith in the process.
Speaker 3: At this point, I was.
Speaker 4: Ready to just eat alone. And she showed up already
Speaker 4: her past expectation.
Speaker 1: I liked that mentality. If you go in thinking like
Speaker 1: it's going to be terrible, then it's going to be
Speaker 1: great no matter what. As long as they show up,
Speaker 1: he's gonna start sitting down and he's right now she's
Speaker 1: not going to show up. Then she goes, oh, you're
Speaker 1: halfwaying the meal. Best date ever? Oh my god, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'm glad. I only ordered like one cocktail
Speaker 4: before she got there.
Speaker 3: What was it like when you first saw her?
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, she had a beautiful smile,
Speaker 5: really like focused on me on the date, which was
Speaker 5: which was nice. And she loves horror movies like I do,
Speaker 5: and like I expected us to be there for like
Speaker 5: an hour, but.
Speaker 4: We were there. We talked for over four hours at
Speaker 4: the restaurant.
Speaker 3: What what at the restaurant the entire time?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: The waiter was just so annoyed with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, were you ordering more drinks in between that time?
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking from the waiters perspective.
Speaker 4: There were a couple, but we had a good long talk.
Speaker 4: I mean we ended up closing the restaurant down.
Speaker 2: My gosh, I mean I could understand, just on that
Speaker 2: experience alone, why you'd be so mystified why this woman
Speaker 2: isn't calling you back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, especially because we agreed on another date.
Speaker 3: When you say you agreed on another date, did you
Speaker 3: guys like set a day.
Speaker 4: In a time or we made agree to go out afterwards?
Speaker 4: We were going to meet at the same restaurant next week, Oh,
Speaker 4: like the following week.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, I want to do the same one.
Speaker 1: I mean, if the vibes are so good at that
Speaker 1: one place, to keep it going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we just had such a great time.
Speaker 4: We wanted to keep the ball rolling.
Speaker 1: That's gone and that could be your place someday, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is our our first two days. And they took
Speaker 1: the chopper out of nom and then decided to fly
Speaker 1: right back into it. Okay, how did your second tour go?
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. She never showed up.
Speaker 3: She did. Wait, wait on the second time, she didn't
Speaker 3: show up.
Speaker 4: She never showed up. I was there for over half
Speaker 4: an hour. I texted her no response.
Speaker 3: And had you guys texted in the week between, like, oh,
Speaker 3: can't wait to see you? You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd had a couple of texts, you know, back
Speaker 4: and forth with her, And.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem. I don't know the confirming of
Speaker 1: the second day.
Speaker 2: You know, you always have to confirm plans at least
Speaker 2: three times before they actually happened.
Speaker 1: A little mystery.
Speaker 3: No, it's not Look.
Speaker 1: Are we on for tonight? Yeah? Are we? I guess
Speaker 1: you'll have to show up and find out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know the magic rule was three, But
Speaker 4: do we noted? I guess for for the future. But
Speaker 4: she just wasn't there And then she hasn't responded to
Speaker 4: any of my calls or text.
Speaker 3: Dude, dude, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Now, you guys know why I want to get off
Speaker 4: of these apps, because again we spent four hours bocking
Speaker 4: and and then a no show on the second date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've never been stood up before?
Speaker 6: Imagine, I've heard we're gonna try and make a happier
Speaker 6: image come out of all of this we got because
Speaker 6: we're gonna come back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call Diane for you and try and get
Speaker 1: you your second date update, get you out of nom
Speaker 1: once and for all, right right after this. No, we're
Speaker 1: gonna drive this one home. God, we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: right after this second date update. Imagine four hours of
Speaker 1: non stop laughter and sharing stories and dreams. Two desserts,
Speaker 1: one spoon. That sounds lovely, Jeffrey, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that really happened.
Speaker 3: There was only one spoon. I'm sorry, I'd be out.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing in my mind the best date ever,
Speaker 1: because that's what Thomas described to us earlier when he
Speaker 1: met up at a restaurant with Diane. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: three desserts, no spoon.
Speaker 3: I think you usually do one dessert and two spoons.
Speaker 1: You know, the more spoons, the worst it's going. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no spoon. Hands behind the back of your lady in
Speaker 1: the ting a mudpie off of each other's fingers. That
Speaker 1: is the best date night ever.
Speaker 3: That visual will haunt me.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. All I do know is that
Speaker 1: Thomas is about to give up on the dating apps
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out for him, and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna let that happen.
Speaker 3: Right, Brookes, that's right, we got you, Thomas.
Speaker 4: Man. I appreciate yall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas, you haven't heard from her at all after
Speaker 2: she stood you up?
Speaker 4: Nothing, complete radio silence.
Speaker 3: So are you? Are you mad going into this?
Speaker 4: I mean a little bit, But to be honest, I'm more.
Speaker 4: I'm just exhausted and I just kind of want to
Speaker 4: know why it doesn't make sense to me? Is all?
Speaker 3: Okay? All right? You defeated?
Speaker 4: Yeah, bring the energy down.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 6: I'm hopeful Like you said, that's right like one minute ago.
Speaker 3: I know, Well, I'm hopeful for you too. We're gonna
Speaker 3: hold you up.
Speaker 2: Okay, We're gonna reinflate you're trying to.
Speaker 3: We're gonna prop you up and make this happen.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: If you'd like to hire Brooke to give a pep
Speaker 1: talk to your company, makes you go to Brook dot
Speaker 1: com or sports team got to lift let's plate stuff
Speaker 1: right here you go? Hello, Hey, is this Diane?
Speaker 4: Yeah? This is her?
Speaker 1: We got her. Okay, Diane, what's up? You're on the
Speaker 1: radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: most people cheer when we say that, but that's okay.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, not one person has ever done that. Don't pressure.
Speaker 3: We're excited to talk to though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, god, you answered.
Speaker 7: I'm like in the middle of something and you I
Speaker 7: don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we're in the middle of something too. It's
Speaker 1: called a second date update, and I think our thing
Speaker 1: is probably more important. Okay, sorry, No, I think we
Speaker 1: have a listener who went on a date with you
Speaker 1: recently and hasn't really been able to meet up a
Speaker 1: second time. It's really bumming him out, and he just
Speaker 1: doesn't know why. His name's Thomas.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, you know Thomas.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: We figured because you guys spent quite a while together
Speaker 1: the other night at a restaurant having what sounded like
Speaker 1: a really nice time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He told us that you really connected.
Speaker 1: I mean, most people don't close down a restaurant when
Speaker 1: they're having a bad time with each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a date the other night, so you
Speaker 4: admit it.
Speaker 1: HAA.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you had a good date. Then why
Speaker 3: didn't you show up the second time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all confused, and Thomas is especially confused because
Speaker 1: apparently you were supposed to meet up again the following
Speaker 1: week at the same exact restaurant and you ghosted. You
Speaker 1: didn't even show.
Speaker 7: First of all, I did not ghost him.
Speaker 3: What he was there and you were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he showed up and he says he weren't there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I went to the restaurant. I got there early,
Speaker 7: and I left before I got there, But I did
Speaker 7: not ghost him.
Speaker 1: You left before he got there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have a date at two different times.
Speaker 4: The week.
Speaker 7: You know, I was really looking forward to our gate
Speaker 7: and I actually got there fifteen minutes early.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: When I got there, you know, the host when I
Speaker 7: got there was paying really like a lot.
Speaker 2: Of attention to me, like in a way that made
Speaker 2: you uncomfortable the way you said that, Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: just it was like they were familiar with me.
Speaker 3: Well, you were you closed down the place the week before.
Speaker 6: Maybe they know you.
Speaker 3: About We heard you took the table for four hours.
Speaker 7: Yeah, actually it was kind of the opposite. They put
Speaker 7: me at the nicest table you could possibly be at
Speaker 7: in the restaurant, like a beautiful view of the city.
Speaker 3: Oh, why is this an issue?
Speaker 1: Did you know somebody that sounds really nice?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Well, there were like rose petals all over the table.
Speaker 7: My favorite drink. I told him I was a Gin
Speaker 7: and tonic and he had it like it was they're waiting,
Speaker 7: that's so cute.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what part of this is bad in
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 4: I Well, it just was.
Speaker 7: It was a lot for a second date.
Speaker 3: It's just a Gen and Tonic and a couple of
Speaker 3: rose petals. Wait, is that that like an anniversary thing?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 3: He was excited.
Speaker 7: It's not an anniversary though, it's a second date. And
Speaker 7: it honestly felt like a proposal that much.
Speaker 3: Girl, You need to set your sights higher. If you
Speaker 3: think that's a proposal.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, let's just hear her out a little bit,
Speaker 1: so that all those nice gestures made you feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: Like I just.
Speaker 7: Couldn't figure out. It was just like, what does he
Speaker 7: want for me? Like it just was so so much.
Speaker 3: Isn't that awful that that's your first thought? Like that sucks?
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, like what if all he wanted was
Speaker 3: to show you that he liked you? He should have.
Speaker 7: Stuck with the I mean, that's great nolge, but I
Speaker 7: just from my experience, no man actually acts like that.
Speaker 7: It's like a cartoon version of what.
Speaker 1: I could definitely see both sides of the argument rare.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was trying to be nice. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: a little bit too much too fast to.
Speaker 3: Just believe him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part was a little rough. But the good
Speaker 1: news is we can make everything better with a simple action,
Speaker 1: and that's by putting Thomas on the phone with you
Speaker 1: right now, because he's actually on the other line waiting
Speaker 1: to you. Oh no, don't think of this as another
Speaker 1: grand romantic gesture, just casual phone convo inact, pretend like
Speaker 1: we're not here and say hi to each other. Thomas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi. I thought I was being very like sweet
Speaker 4: and considerate, and you know, I was trying to sad like.
Speaker 4: I was also listening and paying attention to.
Speaker 1: You, and.
Speaker 7: It is it is, you know, very sweet, I just
Speaker 7: like you, I think. I mean, it just was a lot.
Speaker 7: We haven't even discussed what we've wanted in our future
Speaker 7: anything like that, so it was just the most grand
Speaker 7: gestures for just like meeting up again and wanting to
Speaker 7: get to know.
Speaker 3: Each other, but like you didn't even stick around to
Speaker 3: even tell Thomas that it was too much. I bet
Speaker 3: Thomas you would have removed those pedals as quickly as
Speaker 3: you could had you known, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only reason I put him there in the
Speaker 4: first place was because I thought she would like it,
Speaker 4: not terrify her into disappearing off the face of the planet.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, let's scare a little bit.
Speaker 3: Remember she liked horror movies.
Speaker 1: You told us that.
Speaker 5: Something scary.
Speaker 4: I should have wrote, I'm watching you on.
Speaker 3: The it's actually Rob Coms. It terrified her.
Speaker 1: But I mean, just from from hearing from him, Diane,
Speaker 1: I think his intentions were very pure, very like, kind
Speaker 1: and thoughtful and nice, not trying to overwhelm you with love.
Speaker 1: I've just got lost in translation.
Speaker 7: Really yeah, yeah, I guess I panicked and I just ran.
Speaker 1: This conversation is going better, Thomas, Do you still want
Speaker 1: us to play the romantic violin music as the question?
Speaker 3: I thought it was the quartet.
Speaker 1: You know what, We're gonna skimp all of that and
Speaker 1: just go right to the question, which is, Diane, would
Speaker 1: you like to go out on another date with Thomas
Speaker 1: that we would pay for and before she answers Thomas,
Speaker 1: is there anything else that you just want to say
Speaker 1: to her to try and convince her to go out
Speaker 1: with you one more time? Now's your chance.
Speaker 4: I don't appreciate being ghosted like that, but I did
Speaker 4: enjoy our date and I would like to do another.
Speaker 4: Are you guys really playing?
Speaker 1: I didn't play anything.
Speaker 4: That was just natural.
Speaker 1: That was the universe puts a conversation.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Keep going, Thomas.
Speaker 4: No, No, I would love to go on a second
Speaker 4: date with you, and I will clothing down.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so sweet, Dan. What do
Speaker 1: you think Dan? One more date?
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I would love to go another date.
Speaker 7: I just it was just a lot. And now that
Speaker 7: I know you were coming from a good place like
Speaker 7: it's you know, that's a little different. I'm sorry I.
Speaker 1: Panished, Thomas. How are you feeling? Are you happy?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel better if he was getting a hold
Speaker 4: of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need we need to sound happier than that
Speaker 1: to match the music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the perfect ending, as you got your
Speaker 4: second date.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: I did not want to say this while we were
Speaker 1: on the phone and possibly ruined the good vibes and
Speaker 1: the good moment that was happening.
Speaker 3: Maybe you shouldn't say it now that I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: It sounds like Thomas is going to finally quit the
Speaker 1: dating apps.
Speaker 3: Oh, because he's going to be in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's given up on love, because he actually
Speaker 1: found someone for the long haul. At least hopefully he
Speaker 1: has to give up.
Speaker 2: Regardless, I think he's going to freaker out even more
Speaker 2: on date three or four.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if they seem like
Speaker 3: I really want this to work. I just don't know
Speaker 3: if they're the best match.
Speaker 1: I think the more they communicate, the better.
Speaker 3: That's true that four hours together they didn't communicate.
Speaker 1: It dial back the communication in some areas up in
Speaker 1: other areas. We do an update update with them in
Speaker 1: a few months, and Diane is actually happy about the
Speaker 1: roses and the gin waiting at.
Speaker 2: The Tajoh, She's never getting that again for the rest
Speaker 2: of their relationships.
Speaker 1: I just want them to be on the same page,
Speaker 1: to come on and they're glowing and lapping over their
Speaker 1: first pregnancy scare WHOA. That's my dream for them, just
Speaker 1: having a great time.
Speaker 3: You have a different idea of fun, but yeah, sounds
Speaker 3: good anyway.
Speaker 1: We want to help you have fun in your dating life.
Speaker 1: Email the show, we'll call that person who's not calling
Speaker 1: you back, and you can always listen to any of
Speaker 1: our second date updates wherever you get your podcasts at
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