Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: is the second hour on this Friday, a Meet Friday.
Speaker 1: At that beef stew on the trigger. Got a fire
Speaker 1: burning as well. It's cold. It is really cold here
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, so beef stew sounds like a great item
Speaker 1: on the menu. When is it not a good time
Speaker 1: to have beef stew in the winter? Yes, palling, we're
Speaker 1: just joke around that. If my name were Stewart, I
Speaker 1: would definitely go with the nickname beef beef Stef. That's
Speaker 1: your buddy, that's your buddy. Everybody wants to hang out
Speaker 1: with beef hey beef stew, like it or not. This
Speaker 1: is the first weekend without NFL football since early September,
Speaker 1: and although there have been some issues for the most part,
Speaker 1: it's been an uninterrupted season, a couple of hiccups along
Speaker 1: the way, and fortunately they've been able to do it
Speaker 1: safely for the most part, which is quite a feat
Speaker 1: in itself. And this season made you realize just how
Speaker 1: much football is part of the fabric of our society.
Speaker 1: The NFL of his full speed ahead. They were not
Speaker 1: going to be denied, deterred, and now a little pause
Speaker 1: for super Bowl week. And it's funny how empty Sunday
Speaker 1: afternoon is going to feel, especially considering we basically went
Speaker 1: through four months with no sports and that seems like
Speaker 1: such a long time ago. I guess we're going to
Speaker 1: find out something to watch this weekend hockey, basketball, golf,
Speaker 1: and then we get ready for the Chiefs and the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers as we move forward. If you missed Albert Breer
Speaker 1: for the Monday Morning quarterback last hour, he dropped this
Speaker 1: little nugget. He said he thinks his good chance Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford has traded before the Super Bowl. So then we
Speaker 1: decided to play the Matthew Stafford game of where we
Speaker 1: think Matthew Stafford could end up, and myself and the
Speaker 1: Dans we all got our picks there. We had the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots in there, New Orleans Saints in their,
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears in there, the Colts in there, and nine
Speaker 1: Ers in there. Yeah, I'm looking at the draft order
Speaker 1: and the culture twenty one. There's a lot of teams
Speaker 1: right around there who might make a call there. How
Speaker 1: about the Vegas Raiders. You know, John Gruden loves that guy. No,
Speaker 1: the Washington football team today they're at nineteen compared to
Speaker 1: the Cults twenty. That's another one. I think that because
Speaker 1: once again, their quarterbacking situation is easy to get out of.
Speaker 1: And I that's where I have to factor in where
Speaker 1: it's like Deshaun Watson. Where can he go? Where? What
Speaker 1: am I interrupting here? What do I have to get
Speaker 1: rid of to bring into Shaun Watson? I mean if
Speaker 1: I bring him into Atlanta? Then what do I do
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan? Do I have a taker for Matt Ryan?
Speaker 1: And then Matt Ryan's in play with somebody? Yeah? MC club,
Speaker 1: could you send Matt Ryan to Houston as like a
Speaker 1: placeholder for the Texans in that deal? I don't why
Speaker 1: would Houston want Matt Ryan, right? I mean at this
Speaker 1: point they don't have a team that's ready to win.
Speaker 1: The Colts would want Matt Ryan, but you know, the
Speaker 1: Saints could one Matt Ryan. It just feels like, if
Speaker 1: you've probably got eighteen to twenty teams right now who
Speaker 1: were having discussions, what would it take to get this guy?
Speaker 1: And if we don't get this guy, what would it
Speaker 1: take to get this guy? Is that too much? Is
Speaker 1: that not enough? Can we, you know, strengthen the deals,
Speaker 1: spice it up a little bit. The Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: coach Jimmy Johnson will join us coming up. We'll get
Speaker 1: his thoughts on this. And I was wondering about this.
Speaker 1: If you're the Texans, you've traded before with the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: would you trade again with the Dolphins considering what happened
Speaker 1: with the Laramie Tunsel deal? Could they bail you out
Speaker 1: on Tuah if you don't think Tah is a franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: And then the Texans take Tah and let's say they
Speaker 1: got the third pick overall, you draft DeVante Smith and
Speaker 1: now you have something there, but you're kind of given
Speaker 1: the Texans their picks back. It's the way to look
Speaker 1: at Yeah, here you go, We're gonna give you all
Speaker 1: these guys here. But you know, trying to figure out
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson demand a trade, request a trade? How long
Speaker 1: is this going to? What about he doesn't go anywhere?
Speaker 1: Because I know nobody wants to think of that. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a buzz kill, but I had,
Speaker 1: I said to the Dnets, I probably do more homework
Speaker 1: Between the hours of six thirty and eight thirty every
Speaker 1: single night because that's when I have people East coast,
Speaker 1: West coast are available. You can text, you can also
Speaker 1: call somebody. I spent thirty thirty five minutes on the
Speaker 1: phone with the source last night and we went over everything.
Speaker 1: We went over Eric B. Enemy because my source said
Speaker 1: he has somebody who was involved in the interviewing process
Speaker 1: with Eric B. Enemy and he said, here's the biggest
Speaker 1: problem that I was told with Eric B. Enemy, and
Speaker 1: it is he did not have a fully flushed out
Speaker 1: staff ready to go. And what the owners want now,
Speaker 1: the general managers want is what is your game plan?
Speaker 1: Who is your quarterbacks coach? Who's your defensive coordinator? Who's
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator? Are you calling plays? Is the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator calling plays? That Eric while they said he is
Speaker 1: a dynamic interview like he is charismatic, And I was
Speaker 1: told last night, you gotta have that staff ready to
Speaker 1: tell them that you are buttoned up. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard for Eric B. Enemy to get ready
Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl while trying to assemble a staff
Speaker 1: that you can say we're ready to go. We're going
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running on that Monday right after
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I was also told by the same source.
Speaker 1: Understand this, there are three types of owners in the NFL.
Speaker 1: In his opinion, there's a third of the owners who
Speaker 1: listen to the commissioner and they will go out of
Speaker 1: their way to try to help him when they're asked
Speaker 1: to help him. Make sure you're interviewing minority candidates. There's
Speaker 1: a third that are probably be on the fence that
Speaker 1: they might help out the commissioner, they might not. And
Speaker 1: then there's a third of the owners who don't care
Speaker 1: what Roger Roger Goodell has to say. And you have
Speaker 1: to factor that in with hiring your coach. Now you
Speaker 1: have search firms. You ask a search firm to hire
Speaker 1: your coach, or at least help you hire your coach.
Speaker 1: And the Texans famously hired a search firm for their
Speaker 1: general manager position, and then they didn't take the top
Speaker 1: two recommendations that the search firm came up with. So
Speaker 1: those are just some of the things that are going
Speaker 1: on right now that I learned yesterday. But you know,
Speaker 1: part of that was b enemy And this person has
Speaker 1: known Eric a long time, and I said, did what
Speaker 1: happened at Colorado? You know, when he was younger, you know,
Speaker 1: these prior incidents thirty years ago, five years ago, and
Speaker 1: my source said, no, that this was more about Eric.
Speaker 1: Did he have a staff ready to go that was
Speaker 1: impressing these owners. So the presentation of this was really important.
Speaker 1: And from what I was told, that's where you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't live up to the standards that they were
Speaker 1: looking for. That's just one opinion, but that's somebody who knew,
Speaker 1: somebody who was in an interviewing process with him, or
Speaker 1: at least around the people who were interviewing ere at
Speaker 1: the enemy all right, Age seven seven three d P
Speaker 1: show email address DP A dan Patrick dot com Twitter
Speaker 1: handle at DP show. We played the Matthew Stafford game
Speaker 1: last hour. We're gonna play the Deshaun Watson game this
Speaker 1: hour in about a half hour from now. Where we
Speaker 1: think Deshaun Watson will end up? Y asked mc clemman.
Speaker 1: By the way, we tweeted out send us your trade
Speaker 1: proposals for Deshaun Watson. We're getting a ton of Bradley
Speaker 1: Beale jokes saying we should trade it for Bradley Beale
Speaker 1: and Chris Bryant. So people take this seriously. What is
Speaker 1: it is hypothetical? Friday? Yeah, yeah, oh, so can you
Speaker 1: do it? I don't know what the cap works had
Speaker 1: with Bradley Beale. And yeah, by the way, you go
Speaker 1: back to the Miami Dolphins when they announced that they
Speaker 1: had acquired a twenty twenty first round pick, a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one first round pick, a twenty twenty one second
Speaker 1: round pick, a cornerback, a tackle in exchange to the
Speaker 1: Texans for Laramie Tunsel and wide receiver Kenny Stills, and
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick in twenty twenty and twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one a sixth round pick. So to recap the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: they got a twenty twenty first round pick, they have
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty one first round pick they which is
Speaker 1: the third pick overall. They have a second round pick
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one courtesy of your Houston Texans. Maybe
Speaker 1: you give your first round pick this year, your second
Speaker 1: round pick this year, and two a Tonga violo, and
Speaker 1: you bring in Deshaun Watson, so it's a wash. We'll
Speaker 1: give you a starting quarterback, you can draft his receiver
Speaker 1: from college, Davante Smith, and we'll give you a second
Speaker 1: round pick as well. What do you think, yes, poet,
Speaker 1: it is like it is a bit like house money
Speaker 1: with Miami. They're not giving up draft capital that puts
Speaker 1: them in a hole. They're kind of breaking back to
Speaker 1: even you know that everybody is. It feels like this
Speaker 1: is a local story for about twenty different cities, like Chicago,
Speaker 1: this is your number one story, Atlanta, I could see it,
Speaker 1: you know, could we get to Shaun Watson. It feels
Speaker 1: like Chicago is going, hey, we missed him the first time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get him. This done the Colts. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard the Colts with Deshaun Watson, but if you're the Colts,
Speaker 1: you'll probably go, all right, what's it gonna take now?
Speaker 1: We can't do that. It feels like this is just
Speaker 1: a quick transaction where you go, what's the highest first
Speaker 1: round pick we can get for Matthew Stafford. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the approach the Lions have. But
Speaker 1: if you say, the Washington football team is going to
Speaker 1: get me the nineteenth pick overall, I'm gonna take that
Speaker 1: over the Colts giving me the twenty first pick overall.
Speaker 1: Like this is not we're not playing favorites. And I
Speaker 1: don't know Matthew Stafford doesn't have a no trade. You
Speaker 1: just say hey, we'll take your first round pick, and
Speaker 1: you have the rights to Matthew Stafford a get to
Speaker 1: phone calls. What's the poll question we're going with me? Well,
Speaker 1: we started with if you're Jacksonville, this seems like a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Do you trade the number one overall
Speaker 1: pick for Deshaun Watson? Sixty? Said no, you don't make
Speaker 1: that trade. Yeah, I don't. But Albert Breer brought up
Speaker 1: something interesting that Urban Meyer tried really really hard to
Speaker 1: get to Shaun Watson to go to Ohio State and
Speaker 1: viewed him as the guy who got away, and maybe
Speaker 1: there's a relationship there. But I'm taking Trevor Lawrence. I'm
Speaker 1: going to roll the dice on Trevor Lawrence. Although it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's that big a gamble, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to roll the dice because I want somebody that
Speaker 1: I grow with, and I want somebody who is not
Speaker 1: going to cost me thirty five, thirty eight, thirty nine
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Yes, MC, if you look at
Speaker 1: recent history, it's all all the Super Bowl teams are
Speaker 1: of guys in their first contracts, right, Mahomes, Goff, Russell Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you keep you hammer that home like a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's still true. Well, unless you have a veteran
Speaker 1: quarterback who restructures his deal. You know, Brady did that
Speaker 1: and it helped. That's why Ben Roethlisberger is basically, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, saying to the Steelers, please take me back.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you pay me. I just want
Speaker 1: to play one more year. If I'm the Steelers, is
Speaker 1: it Hey, we get Ben at a greatly reduced price,
Speaker 1: But does that make us better next year? And I
Speaker 1: don't know what your other option is? That's what I
Speaker 1: would want to know what the Steelers. What is Plan
Speaker 1: B or what is Plan A? If Ben is Plan B,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say. And Ben might be trying
Speaker 1: to present a scenario where you gotta take me back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it difficult for you to walk away
Speaker 1: from me. Is their mutual interest? I guess you said
Speaker 1: that publicly. But if I'm the Steelers, would I would
Speaker 1: want to explore Plan A? And that's not Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah. Point.
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at Roethlisberger, it's been so
Speaker 1: long since he won a super Bowl. It's like his
Speaker 1: super bowls. It's not that they didn't happen. But if
Speaker 1: you said whose career would you want, Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, most people would probably go Rogers. He's considered
Speaker 1: way better. Yeah, but you know, Roethlisberger's two super Bowls
Speaker 1: are thirteen years ago, fifteen years ago. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: coming off injuries. No, no, I don't. I got to
Speaker 1: move on. But two rings. He doesn't feel like a
Speaker 1: guy who has two rings. He feels like a guy
Speaker 1: who's kind of got two rings. Yes, but there are
Speaker 1: weird things with him. Like they were undefeated, they would
Speaker 1: eleven and oh yeah, but I know you only play
Speaker 1: who's in front of you. But they didn't have that
Speaker 1: wasn't a difficult schedule. When they got to a difficult schedule,
Speaker 1: that's when they failed the other fight days. He led
Speaker 1: the league in passing two years ago. He's incredibly productive
Speaker 1: in a weird way. But is that is that real
Speaker 1: production or is that kind of inflated numbers? Well, didn't
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston lead the NFL in passing? Yeah, passing yards.
Speaker 1: Stafford's done it a few times. A couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls in here once again, Jimmy Johnson will join us
Speaker 1: coming up, Kathy and Los Angeles leads us off. Good morning, Kathy,
Speaker 1: Good morning to all you and the donets, and happy
Speaker 1: trigger meet Friday. I have got the Scotty Miller name,
Speaker 1: the nickname name. Okay, yeah, okay, Scotti, Scotti, Maseratti, Miller,
Speaker 1: Scotty Massaratti. It's not bad, ken I like that, if
Speaker 1: if Scotti could get a deal out of that. But
Speaker 1: thank you for the phone calls. Scotti, Masseratti, Miller, Yeah,
Speaker 1: take out the Miller. Is this Scotty Maserati. I don't
Speaker 1: know so legally he goes with Scotty Masserani. All right.
Speaker 1: See if I'm Scotty Miller, I don't want to draw
Speaker 1: any more attention to me than I already have. It's
Speaker 1: too late, like Scotty Miller. It doesn't sound like you're
Speaker 1: a burner. But Scotty Masserani, Oh my god, the defensive backs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a flat tire. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: engine problems today, mister get ready for a head on collision,
Speaker 1: bringing you in for servant. Yeah, mco Little Scott Miller
Speaker 1: out of Bowling Green. You don't have to worry about him.
Speaker 1: That's who I'm presenting myself as yes, Oh who you
Speaker 1: line up? I'm opposite guy named Scott Miller. Scott Miller,
Speaker 1: The Scott Miller, yep, the Scott Miller. Scotty Maserani. He
Speaker 1: had a pretty good week. He got more attention this
Speaker 1: week off of what he said about Tyree Hill then
Speaker 1: he did catching that touchdown pass against the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Iowa, Hi, Jeremy wants on your mind today.
Speaker 1: You kind of covered this just a little bit ago,
Speaker 1: but I've been to steal his fan since about seventy nine.
Speaker 1: And if you're the Steelers and you're willing to go
Speaker 1: away from Roethlisberger, which I'm okay with, who do you
Speaker 1: have as your top choice? We had Mason Rudolph, who's
Speaker 1: not an NFL starting quarterback. We got Josh Dobbs, who's
Speaker 1: not an NFL starting quarterback unless you're the Jets or
Speaker 1: something like that. When we got rid of when Terry
Speaker 1: Bradchurry tag, we went to the Cliff Stout, Mark Malone,
Speaker 1: Bubby Bruster years, including Neil O'Donnell, who was the worst
Speaker 1: quarterback ever to start a Super Bowl. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: who do you go to do you want to go
Speaker 1: back to those years as a Steelers as you don't
Speaker 1: want to go back there. But you know, the Steelers
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back there. It just they didn't
Speaker 1: have somebody that they thought was ready to step up
Speaker 1: and take over for Terry. I don't know who else
Speaker 1: is out there. But once again, if you're the Steelers,
Speaker 1: you have to be respectful to Ben. And now he's saying,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you pay me. You pay me
Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars, I want to play. That's
Speaker 1: a one year guy. Now the bigger picture is and
Speaker 1: you have a good team. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have a great team, but does a better quarterback make
Speaker 1: you a great team? Does that put you on par
Speaker 1: with the other really good teams in the AFC right now?
Speaker 1: And I don't know who would be available, Like is
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford didn't play for the Steelers. I guess he
Speaker 1: would be. If you're the Steelers, you got to at
Speaker 1: least ask about Deshaun Watson, right, what's he going to
Speaker 1: cost you? But if Ben is your best option, then
Speaker 1: I would have my doubts would remain about the Steelers
Speaker 1: and just how competitive they can be, and it's just
Speaker 1: because Ben has been through the wars and his style.
Speaker 1: It's not like he avoids tackles. Yeah, but he got
Speaker 1: rid of the ball a lot quicker these days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that caller disrespected Devlin Duck Hodges
Speaker 1: as the Steelers, but that I googled, did you guys
Speaker 1: know that he's on a new team. I did not.
Speaker 1: I did not yet point I think he's on a
Speaker 1: team on the West coast, but I'm a can'tmember which one.
Speaker 1: He sided with the Rams three days ago to a
Speaker 1: futures contract. I don't even know if that means he's
Speaker 1: on the roster, but they caught him last week. We've
Speaker 1: missed that Jared Golf's job in Jeopardy. Duc Devlin's in
Speaker 1: town ducking for cover, Duck Dynasty. Rams are gonna stop
Speaker 1: pulling off a few super Bowl title Okay, Todd is back.
Speaker 1: By the way, what are you wearing today? I'm wearing
Speaker 1: a cowboy western type shirt with black sweatpants. No particular reason.
Speaker 1: I was listening to country music last night. I was
Speaker 1: singing like Garth Brooks and Brooks and Dunn in the shower,
Speaker 1: and I'm like you know I'm gonna wear Cowboy Western
Speaker 1: shirt today. I don't know if George Strait would wear.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Jeans and spurs, boots, belts,
Speaker 1: they don't wear spurs. Bell buckles, yeah, bell bucker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bell. This was like one of Malfis one. I
Speaker 1: need to do those Frank Williams Junior Monday I football songs.
Speaker 1: I just pulled that out of the back of the closet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised with the sweatpants and the sneakers. Said, odd,
Speaker 1: look a little bit. It looks like I escaped from
Speaker 1: home or something like that. If it's kind of wandering
Speaker 1: namelessly and I need to be found and put back.
Speaker 1: It looked like you got dressed in the dark. The
Speaker 1: lights were dead, but I definitely saw what I was working.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. The Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, NFL and Fox will join us coming up next,
Speaker 1: and then we'll play the Deshaun Watson game where we
Speaker 1: think Watson will end up justin Herbert in an hour
Speaker 1: from now on loan from the Chargers and he plays
Speaker 1: Jake from State Farm. Kevin Miles and his guns will
Speaker 1: show up as well, coming up on twenty after the hour,
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Speaker 1: coach NFL On Fox, analyst Jimmy Johnson back on the program. Morning, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: how are you man? How are you doing? And talk
Speaker 1: Hannah Will? What time'd you get up today? Oh? Actually
Speaker 1: four thirty. I get about four thirty every morning. Did
Speaker 1: you get up that early when you coached? Yep, about
Speaker 1: four thirty five o'clock. I was into office. About five
Speaker 1: thirty almost every morning. What can you accomplish? I guess
Speaker 1: there's nobody there where you know, you that pretty helps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I always like to go into office for
Speaker 1: a couple hours prior to my staff meeting to kind
Speaker 1: of go over the what I wanted to go, you know,
Speaker 1: talk about in the staff meeting, what we had to
Speaker 1: accomplish that day, et cetera. And then I hired Norv Turner,
Speaker 1: uh is my second year in Dallas. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I go in about five thirty and Norv's already there.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't like that at all. I didn't
Speaker 1: like somebody. It disrupted my whole day, you know. And
Speaker 1: so the next morning I go in about five fifteen,
Speaker 1: norves there, and then about you know, I tried about
Speaker 1: four or forty five, and Norv was there. I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to stop this. Now, We're not gonna
Speaker 1: get any sleep at all. Let's let's make a pack,
Speaker 1: you know, let's come in at the same time. At
Speaker 1: least Chuck Nole famously told his assistance to go home,
Speaker 1: like you have families, go home, you know. Dick Vermeil,
Speaker 1: would you know, sleep over at the office when he
Speaker 1: was coaching. How has coaching changed or is it still
Speaker 1: that you're going to be here to eleven or twelve
Speaker 1: at nine? It just really depends on the situation. For instance,
Speaker 1: I was in charge of personnel and so, and I
Speaker 1: talked to urban Meyer about this before he took to
Speaker 1: Jacksonville job. I said, you know, if you're going to
Speaker 1: really use your expertise, you're gonna have to be in
Speaker 1: charge of personnel. And so that's gonna be a twelve
Speaker 1: month out of your job. It's around the clock job
Speaker 1: if you're doing coaching and personnel now. And so that's
Speaker 1: the way it was for me. Now. The one thing
Speaker 1: that I did do, even though I went in the
Speaker 1: office really early every morning, I would purposely, you know,
Speaker 1: go home about ten o'clock at night because I know,
Speaker 1: as long as I was staying there, my assistance were
Speaker 1: going to stay there, and I didn't want him to
Speaker 1: stay there doing busy work just because the head coach
Speaker 1: was still in the office. So I made a point
Speaker 1: to leave the office by ten o'clock at night. Did
Speaker 1: you try to talk herban Meyer out of the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: John No. I Actually we had a couple of conversations
Speaker 1: when Texas was trying to hire him, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to compare college coaching and professional coaching, which he had
Speaker 1: never done, and I told him, I said, if you
Speaker 1: think college coaching is a grind, hey, professional coaching is
Speaker 1: a completely different world. In college, you know, you've even
Speaker 1: though you got recruiting, you've got a family life, You've
Speaker 1: got a social life. You can actually go play golf
Speaker 1: in the off season. You know, you've got time to yourself.
Speaker 1: I said, if you're going to be in charge of personnel,
Speaker 1: which you should be, because he knows all the college players,
Speaker 1: I said, if you're gonna be in charge of personnel
Speaker 1: as well as the head coach, you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: any time for family, for social for anything. And then
Speaker 1: there aren't coaches that could delegate. And you know they
Speaker 1: made a point of going home, like you say, you know,
Speaker 1: Dick for meal or some of the rest of them.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't my personality. If there was work to
Speaker 1: be done, I was going to be there. How close
Speaker 1: do you think it was for Urban to take that
Speaker 1: Texas job? He debated on it to obviously, on University
Speaker 1: of Texas is a you know, it's a premier job.
Speaker 1: But I told him, I said, you know, I had
Speaker 1: a chance to go to Texas myself leaving the University
Speaker 1: of Miami. I said, but you know, I love living
Speaker 1: in Miami, and uh so I didn't do it. And
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he had already accomplished so much
Speaker 1: in college football at Ohio State and at Florida. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the lure of Texas meant
Speaker 1: as much to him as what it might have been
Speaker 1: to somebody else. You famously came up with the draft chart,
Speaker 1: where you know the the you assessed a value of
Speaker 1: where you were picking in the draft or what draft
Speaker 1: picks were worth. Does that still hold up now? And
Speaker 1: if so, let's look at Deshaun Watson and what would
Speaker 1: you want in return if you're the Texans to him. Well,
Speaker 1: the one thing about the draft chart, and I've talked
Speaker 1: to a bunch of people about this, you really can't
Speaker 1: put a player into the draft chart because you don't
Speaker 1: know the value of the player. The draft chart is
Speaker 1: really for picks versus picks. Okay, if you're in the
Speaker 1: first round, you you want to move up, you trade
Speaker 1: a third rounder and swap number one et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So it put a value on all of the picks.
Speaker 1: But Al Davidson I talked about this, you know, he
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, you know, with players. I said, Al,
Speaker 1: you can't do it with players. You don't know the
Speaker 1: value of a player. And he said, you know the
Speaker 1: thing about it. And after I did the chart, I
Speaker 1: studied all the other teams and I studied all of
Speaker 1: their trades, and he was all over the map. Is
Speaker 1: or is the value of picks? And I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, there's some teams, like the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. They were right along the line, and I
Speaker 1: talked to them about it. They didn't have a chart,
Speaker 1: but they studied it and so they had a little
Speaker 1: bit of an idea. And Al was just everywhere and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm a I'm a personnel guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not a value guy. He said, if I want
Speaker 1: a player, I don't care how much it takes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go get that player. And so I'll overpay for players.
Speaker 1: He said, you won't. You know, you're a value guy,
Speaker 1: and if they're asking too much, you'll move on to
Speaker 1: the next player. But anyway, with the chart, you only
Speaker 1: use it for picks. What would you give up or
Speaker 1: what would you want for Deshaun Watson? If I was
Speaker 1: head coach David Culley, I would go and knock on
Speaker 1: Watson's door and I'd have me a couple of michelobultros
Speaker 1: and I'd say, listen, let's work this thing out somehow,
Speaker 1: some way. I mean I had. I had a similar
Speaker 1: situation when I was at Dallas. You know, Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: didn't like me a whole lot that first year because
Speaker 1: I drafted Steve Walsh. But I drafted Steve so I
Speaker 1: could trade him later and get some picks, which I
Speaker 1: got a one, two and three for him, And I
Speaker 1: had to walk a tight rope between the two players
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to diminish the value of Walsh,
Speaker 1: and so I couldn't play favoritism, you know, with either
Speaker 1: one of them. So Troy didn't like that at all. Well,
Speaker 1: after I traded Steve, I went and knocked on Troy's
Speaker 1: door and we sat down and we got to work
Speaker 1: in and I actually set up a tropical fish tank
Speaker 1: for him. So if I'm Cully, I'd do whatever it takes,
Speaker 1: you know, Hey, forget about pride forget about it, Ego,
Speaker 1: you go and set with Watson and somehow worked it out. Hey,
Speaker 1: we can make this thing work right here with the Texans.
Speaker 1: We had Troy on last week and Troy told us
Speaker 1: the story again about that NFC title game where he
Speaker 1: got concost he was in the hospital. He said, I
Speaker 1: still don't remember the game, but he played in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl week later. Jimmy and did not play as
Speaker 1: well as Troy can play. We struggled. I think he
Speaker 1: might have thrown an interception in the first half. You know,
Speaker 1: we struggled the first half. And we went into the
Speaker 1: locker room at halftime. I think we may have been
Speaker 1: down or you know, it was a tight game. And
Speaker 1: I told the guys. I grabbed the offensive line and
Speaker 1: Emmett I said, we're gonna go back out there. And
Speaker 1: I said, Emma, do you get ready? Said yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to give you a breather. We're gonna pound him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run the football. We went out there and
Speaker 1: run the power. Emmat touched the ball, you know, like
Speaker 1: every play except one in that particular drive, and we
Speaker 1: took the league. Troy was not at his best because
Speaker 1: of the concussion. So you realize that, and that's where
Speaker 1: you said to the offensive line and Emma, we're gonna
Speaker 1: win this. We gotta win it this way. We can't
Speaker 1: rely on Troy. And you know we were number one
Speaker 1: in the league in defense too, so you know that
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with it. But we ran
Speaker 1: the power, you know, we're pulled big old Nate Newton
Speaker 1: and leading him and right up on the right side.
Speaker 1: We ran the power four or five times and took
Speaker 1: it right down the field and scored and uh and
Speaker 1: you know, and Troy in the last game of the year,
Speaker 1: he didn't play. I think the last game of the year.
Speaker 1: Bernie Cozar came in there and helped us, you know,
Speaker 1: helped us beat San Francisco, And so Troy was not
Speaker 1: at his best, you know, because of that concussion. How
Speaker 1: would you coach differently or would you coach differently if
Speaker 1: you were coaching now in the NFL, The league would
Speaker 1: make me coach differently. I mean, we were in pads
Speaker 1: and we were scrimmaging Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. You know,
Speaker 1: we never went in shorts, you know, we never went
Speaker 1: in shells. We were in pads. So the league would
Speaker 1: make me, you know, change the way I coached. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's a difficult thing, you know, because if we
Speaker 1: were in shorts in a practice, I was bored. I
Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted a physical football team, so I
Speaker 1: would have us in a physical type of workout as
Speaker 1: much as it's allowed. And so that would be the
Speaker 1: big thing for trying to be a little bit more physical.
Speaker 1: That's why you see such poor tackling now in the game,
Speaker 1: because they don't tackle in practice, so they don't have
Speaker 1: contact in practice. And I've talked to a bunch of
Speaker 1: trainers around the league. We did a little bit of
Speaker 1: a study getting ready for the Fox Show, and half
Speaker 1: a dozen of the trainers said, because there's not contact
Speaker 1: in practices. He says, that really leads to more injuries
Speaker 1: because players don't know how to fall, players are not
Speaker 1: expecting contact, players don't protect themselves, and really, the more
Speaker 1: contact you have, in their opinion, the fewer injuries you're
Speaker 1: going to have, especially the early I know. I talked
Speaker 1: to the trainer in Jacksonville and he had told him
Speaker 1: mas Lensky heat played for me in Dallas, and he
Speaker 1: said it takes a couple of weeks of contact with
Speaker 1: players before they get accustomed to the game speed and
Speaker 1: so not having contact in practice, I think he really
Speaker 1: hurts the team. But don't tell these players that, because
Speaker 1: these players are gonna say, hey, you know, let's legislate
Speaker 1: rules to where we won't have any contact. Is the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time should have come down to
Speaker 1: the number of Super Bowls you win? Yeah, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is the greatest quarterback of all time. But if I
Speaker 1: said you had to face a quarterback, or let's say
Speaker 1: you had to start a franchise, there's no question you're
Speaker 1: starting your franchise with Tom Brady over No, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: there's no question who I'd started with. The greatest quarterback
Speaker 1: of all time is Tom Brady because of his record
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl wins. The most talented quarterback I've ever
Speaker 1: seen is Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is unbelievable what he
Speaker 1: can do. I mean, he's he can do it all.
Speaker 1: He can make all the throws. You know, he has
Speaker 1: such a feel for the game, he has such vision,
Speaker 1: and he's mobile. So yeah, Patrick Mahomes most talented quarterback
Speaker 1: I've seen. But the greatest quarterback of all the time
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady because of what he accomplished. But if
Speaker 1: you said you had to face a quarterback game on
Speaker 1: the line, the quarterback you don't want to face in
Speaker 1: a one game elimination is who all Tetrick Mahomes. But
Speaker 1: but let me cushion that a little bit. Okay, I
Speaker 1: would take either. I would face either quarterback depending on
Speaker 1: their supporting cast, which every one has. The both of
Speaker 1: them can beat you. Both of them can win. But
Speaker 1: who has the best supporting cast? Who has the best defense?
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about our Dallas teams. Everybody talked
Speaker 1: about the triplets, and the Triplets were the first to
Speaker 1: go on the Hall of Fame, but they overlooked that
Speaker 1: we were number one in the NFL total defense. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: eventually Charles Aley went into the Hall of Fame. But
Speaker 1: it's a team game, Dan, and as great as those quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, I talked to Troy our second year.
Speaker 1: He had heard his shoulder. We would have made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He didn't make the Pro Bowl, And I said, I'm sorry, Troy.
Speaker 1: I tried to get you in the Pro Bowl. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, coach, just keep supporting, you know, bringing you know,
Speaker 1: my supporting cast. It's keep bringing me players. I'll go
Speaker 1: to plenty of Pro Bowls. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: say Montana or Elway. Did they win as many Super
Speaker 1: Bowls as ready? No? No, like starting a franchise. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I said Patrick Mahomes. I know, but I thought you
Speaker 1: might have gone Elway or Montana to start a franchise
Speaker 1: over Patrick Mahomes. I think Patrick Mahomes more talented to
Speaker 1: be either one of those two. Like I said, he's
Speaker 1: the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's more talented than el This my opinion.
Speaker 1: I think Elway, you know, is as talent, maybe the
Speaker 1: most talented quarterback I've ever seen. And that goes back
Speaker 1: to the late late sixties. But how are we going
Speaker 1: to solve this time? We're not over some mic Ultras.
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me what you're doing with Mick Ultra
Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl. Well, you know, Michael Ultra has
Speaker 1: got a really cool commercial super Bowl. It's you know,
Speaker 1: are you happy because you win? Or do you win
Speaker 1: because you're happy? And it brought up a point to me.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm a much better coach. You
Speaker 1: know when I'm upbeating positive and happy now. I did
Speaker 1: a much better job there, and it's always really a
Speaker 1: cool commercial. And plus, you know, just ninety five calories
Speaker 1: and two point six carves. It keeps me slim and drim.
Speaker 1: If it made my hair look like yours, then I
Speaker 1: would definitely drink it. Definitely drink it. But you've got
Speaker 1: Serena's in it, Pete Mannings in the commercial. Are they
Speaker 1: they involved in this? I've got to recollect the cool
Speaker 1: people that covers it though, Yeah, why aren't you in it?
Speaker 1: And well, let's let's talk. It's always great to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I hope you're in good health, good spirits,
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us as always, Jimmy, Well when
Speaker 1: you're happy there, thank you, buddy. That's Jimmy Johnson, NFL
Speaker 1: on Fox analyst, two times Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: He's very bright, you know, it's just fun to hear
Speaker 1: and if you ask a question, he gives you an answer,
Speaker 1: not just coach speak, he gives you an answer. Yeah, Polly.
Speaker 1: Whenever we have him on or I see him talking,
Speaker 1: what a break, guys. I always feel like, man, I
Speaker 1: wish I had about ten more years of him as
Speaker 1: a head coach somewhere. Yeah, he gave it up real
Speaker 1: early compared to most real early. Yeah, take a break.
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Speaker 1: play the Deshaun Watson game where we think he'll end up.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Deshaun Watson, September twenty seven of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer was on the program and I asked Urban
Speaker 1: who was the player he wasn't able to land in
Speaker 1: recruiting The one who got away? Here is Urban Meyer? Quarterback? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I worked, so he was committed so early,
Speaker 1: and I remember flying there and I thought we had
Speaker 1: him thinking about it. But Clemson did such a great
Speaker 1: job recruiting him that I still think he's one of
Speaker 1: the greatest competitors. Quarterback still is. But Deshaun Watson was
Speaker 1: the one. But you don't want amazed me though, coach
Speaker 1: is he did everything you wanted a quarterback to do
Speaker 1: in college, but then people still had doubts about him
Speaker 1: going into the NFL. That's what I don't understand. Well, NFL.
Speaker 1: It amazes me when I hear people say, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he'll make it because NFL is a quarterback game,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, We'll wait a minute. So is college
Speaker 1: a quarterback game. So it is high school football and peewee.
Speaker 1: It's a quarterback sport, and quarterbacks in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: hear people blame them when they're stuck on a really
Speaker 1: lousy team. So that's Irban Meyer from back in September.
Speaker 1: Too bad he doesn't have another chance to get him
Speaker 1: all that's right, Maybe he does with Jacksonville. That leads
Speaker 1: me to where we started the show, Adam Schefter's tweet,
Speaker 1: fun little hypothetical. Would the Texans and Jacksonville Jaguars be
Speaker 1: willing to trade Deshaun Watson for the number one overall pick?
Speaker 1: That's just a hypothetical from Adam Schefter. Time to play
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson game where we think DeShawn Watson will
Speaker 1: end up. I'm going to start with our country music fan,
Speaker 1: Todd Fritz, who is channeling his inner or outer Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1: As much as I can see Bill Belzic finagling Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson to the Patriots, they don't really have the weapons
Speaker 1: right now for to shown to throw. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: he's going to become a San Francisco forty nine er
Speaker 1: with us and more people to throw to Okay, why
Speaker 1: is it that we always you have tamp something before
Speaker 1: you say where he's gonna go? I felt that, No,
Speaker 1: not you. I just say that we all do famously
Speaker 1: because we had our bets and we wanted even though
Speaker 1: Polly goes. You know, I'd like to say that he's
Speaker 1: gonna go to, but he's gonna go too. It's like
Speaker 1: having two guesses when you've been because then that that's
Speaker 1: Paully's famous for. Watch this, Paulli. Where is DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: and Carolina Panthers? Don't even don't even? Okay, what were
Speaker 1: you going to do before I said that? Oh? I
Speaker 1: had a whole preamble. I mean it was at least
Speaker 1: forty five seconds. I was. I was going to suggest
Speaker 1: the Vikings and then pull it back. Vikings. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: I love the Panthers. Polly saw Panthers for me. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off the board. I know Miami's the
Speaker 1: Vegas favorite. Atlanta Okay town cooking, Okay, so I think
Speaker 1: it's Atlanta. So you just did what I said. I
Speaker 1: know BECAUSI said it. I love by the way seat
Speaker 1: and won the last time we played this game earlier?
Speaker 1: What he mentioned the fog at San Francisco. That was
Speaker 1: the best leaded we've ever had over here, a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure to follow up in this game and set.
Speaker 1: Where do you think Deshaun Watson Deshaun to Jacksonville Elementary,
Speaker 1: My dear Watson. No, No, that's terrible. I stole that
Speaker 1: directly from I think Ryan and Honolulu yesterday did that
Speaker 1: literally that exact same Joane encourage Ryan from Honolulua. Hello, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: haw Hello haw. Speaking of accents, bad accents. I did
Speaker 1: an interview with Sam Neil yesterday. Sam Neil stars in
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. He's uh, doctor Alan Grant. He's been in
Speaker 1: a lot of movies, but he he's a character actor
Speaker 1: and he's he's in the movie Jurassic Park. So I'm
Speaker 1: doing a podcast on famous scene where he first comes on,
Speaker 1: you know, where he first sees the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: So we spend about, I don't know, twenty five thirty
Speaker 1: minutes just talking about Jurassic Park and that scene and
Speaker 1: working with the dinosaurs, and and PAULI goes, hey, can
Speaker 1: you ask Sam Neil? I got a question. I go, great,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not the biggest Jurassic Park guy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you can help me with this interview, schure, what
Speaker 1: do you have Paul? And he goes ask him about
Speaker 1: Sean Connery's accent in the Hunt for Red October and
Speaker 1: I go, that has nothing to do with Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: He goes, I know, but he was in the Hunt
Speaker 1: for Red October and you had Sean Connery playing a
Speaker 1: Russian sub captain, you know, submarine captain, he had a
Speaker 1: Scottish accent. So at the very end of the interview,
Speaker 1: so Sam Neil, Hey, Sam, thank you, and good luck
Speaker 1: with Jurassic Park and the next one that's coming out,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I got one more question. What did
Speaker 1: you think of Sean Connery's accent in the Hunt for
Speaker 1: Red October? And then he laughed and he goes, Sean
Speaker 1: was he was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: That was just Sean being shown and the fact that
Speaker 1: he didn't even try for a Russian accent was just
Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, Paul, It's the greatest thing. Because
Speaker 1: everyone loves to hunt for Red October ALC. Baldwin, Sean Connery,
Speaker 1: but Sean Connery Scottish, he's got he's a Russian Captain's
Speaker 1: the best and we just ignore it. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he had lived in Russia that long. He
Speaker 1: might have relocated to Russia like later in his life,
Speaker 1: and you know he still had the heavy eye. Ironically,
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin's wife, whoa, I'm connecting the dot? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 1: All right? I said I was going to get phone
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Speaker 1: So why did you lie? Dan? I didn't mean to lie.
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