1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September twenty third, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, 8 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Episode number twenty seven. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: at the start, Nick, as we do every day, can 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: you give me a twenty seven? Oh Ron Fellows, Ron 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Fellows from eighties break Back in the eighties, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: where I was a Cowboy fan. But I remember the name, yeah, right, 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Ron Fellows on Fellow, don't even he was a defensive back, 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: It's all right, yep. Cornerback. Were the Eric Dickerson goggles? 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: You know? It was one of those Yeah, I can't 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: think of one, Like, what's a what's a what's a recent? 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: What's the I was about to say safety, I say 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the safety. I could remember saying the safety. I could 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: remember saying I should have busted out Eddie George. That's 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: what I should have done. You know, you were twenty 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: seven year I think he did. Yeah, how he did? Yeah, 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: when we said and interviewed him that year at training 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: camp on the court knox Nard, Yeah, I think he 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: was that year he was here. Yeah, that when that 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: when we had an earthquake. I don't know if he was. 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: It was the same year, yes, I think, but I 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: don't know if we were interviewing him while the earthquake happened, 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: But I do remember we interviewed him him on the 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: court and it was the same year from our set. 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, Hall of Fame list just came out, one 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: hundred and something names, and there was we always talked 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: about that. Who should we mentioned because there's five or six, 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, true cowboys, and then there's another four or 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: five that you're like, oh, oh, yeah he played, you know, 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: like Randall Cunningham and Eddie George and Zach Thomas and 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: guys that kind of just you know, finished it up 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: over here. But so he was one of them. Now 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: there's some former cowboys not on the list, but we 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: can talk about that later. Oh, Romo, do we just 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: keep running with this like you came off and like 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: that was like breaking news. We know he's not gonna 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: make it into the Hall of Fame, right, it's not 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: about the making it. It's not about the making it, 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and he's always just being on the list. Is that 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, there's I know. But you 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned Jake Dilome, and I thought Dave had a 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: good point. Jake Delome had about better career. No he didn't. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: I looked. I looked it up. He went to Super Bowl, though, 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't look at the number. Do look at the 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: numbers there. It's not even close. No, it's not even 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: Jeff Garcia. I don't think had a better career either. 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: I just I just think they both played Super Bowl A. 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Garcia played a super Bowl I don't think. So 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: here's what I don't know. I don't know how the 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: process goes with the Hall of Fame and all that. Like, 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: because I thought you made a really good point. We 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know for sure when Romo ever filed his paperwork, right, 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: or if he filed it, he might yeah, like that 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: would he might be sitting there like, hey, let's see 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: if his deck thing works out. He's probably filed it 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: by now. It wouldn't shock me at all if he 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: waited like a year, just in that snarky Romo fashion. Yeah, 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: just like, ah, you never know, but that's how you 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: would do it. You never know. Yeah, because like several 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: times during the season they're like, well, you know, after 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: you retired, and he was like on the air, He's 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: like did I Jim, Like are you sure? You know? 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: So he liked to play route, But I don't even 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: know if that even matters. I think it's when you're 71 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: done playing five years removed from that, but from your 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: last game. Okay, I'm not gonna sit here and say 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: that Tony Romeo deserves to be like in the Hall 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: of Fame. Definitely not first ballot, and maybe over time 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: he keeps, you know, being a great announcer, maybe you 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: have a shot, but I mean just to be on 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: the list. To not be on that list this wild yeah, 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: which is like I'm I wonder if maybe, I don't know, 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: maybe the paperwork thing is important. I don't know, but 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: like he should be on a list of one hundred 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: and twenty two people. I mean, I get. I'm just 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: not gonna get too bit out of shape for somebody 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think has a shot at making it. So 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: if you didn't get on the list and you're not 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: going to get in anyway, then what's the big deal. Well, 86 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware got on the list and he will be 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame first ballot. Yeah, I don't know. 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so, I think so. Yeah. 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be close, I think for first ballot, 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: but I think he probably. You know, my thing is 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: always was there a period of time when the guy 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: was considered one of the best in the league, top three, five, whatever, 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: it is, one of the best in the league. And 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I think that was a period where you would say 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: he was one of the best pass rushers in the league. 96 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: And then he went to Denver and that Super Bowl. 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: He had a lot to do with that, and so 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: I think that was kind of the icing on the 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: cake cake for him. And so I look at that 100 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's a Hall of Famer. Yeah. 101 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Just don't just don't use the excuse that he's the 102 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys all time leader in sacks because that doesn't anything, 103 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: because it hasn't didn't mean anything for Harvey Martin. True years. Yeah, so, 104 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: but even were they even tracking them back with Harvey 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Mark for all of his career, not for all well, 106 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: not for all of his career. We're gonna get really 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: into the weeds on this because Pro Football Reference, a 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: really great website out there, has a lot of stats. 109 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: They're actually they've gone back. They have a huge project 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: that they've been doing in the last two years to 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: try to go back and get all of these sacks 112 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: and watching all these tape to try to to you know, 113 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two is when when the sacks officially 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: meant STAP, but they're trying to give it to the 115 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: league to go a lot earlier than that. I remember 116 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: watching interviews with guys like Deacon Jones, who for half 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: of our audience they're like, who is that? But watching 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: some of those interviews and they're like, Yeah, all these 119 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: sack numbers mean nothing because I had way more than 120 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: that because they weren't counting them back during a lot 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: of his career. Uh and he was a beast as 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of a sack guy, but it just wasn't being counted back. There. 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: A little bit different too, because a lot of times 124 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: they were running it like in the more of a 125 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of a not not like an option, but their 126 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: quarterback was kind of getting the ball and running and 127 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: then maybe throwing it and then was that a tackle? 128 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Is that a sack? You know, it's a little bit different. 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Back then, all right, let's jump in. We got a 130 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: few things we need to hit. We're gonna be joined 131 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: by Bucky Brooks here in the second segment of the show. 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: Before we get to him, though, we do need to 133 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: talk about Keyan O'Neill. Man. It seems like, now this 134 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: is just and I shouldn't even say now, but this season, 135 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: even more so than last year, COVID seems to be 136 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: a weekly thing. I have a basically a list that 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about from the standpoint of injuries, and then 138 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I got a COVID list, and this week, here's your 139 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: latest addition to that COVID list, Keyan O'Neill. And as 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: until further notified that, I just assume this is gonna 141 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: be a thing. I mean, it's been this is third 142 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: third game, third guy. It was Zack Martin, then it 143 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: was Randy Gregory. Now it's Keyan O'Neil. Fortunately, on one hand, 144 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Randy's back, so that's nice. So Zach only missed one game, 145 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Randy only missed one game. Maybe Keanu will only miss 146 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: one game. That's TVD. Yeah, well, well, but they're over two. 147 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to hear about a guy 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: coming back in time until it happens. They're over for two. 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: It's a different situation though. In the other two instances, 150 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: both those guys tested positive. This is not a test 151 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: piece of close contact. It's close contact, which means that, 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: according to the rules as I understand them, when it's 153 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: close contact, you have a five a minimum five day 154 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: if you're unvaccinated, which would mean that as of the 155 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: time that we learned about it yesterday, that's five days 156 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to Monday. If he gets negative tests here in succession, 157 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: he could possibly play on Monday. Right, That's awesome. I'll 158 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: believe it when it happens. Okay, I mean, I just 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, every I'm just over the whole, like Windsy testing. 160 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Have we heard what his test is? Is he coming back? 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: And like, you know, Zach and I know you're right, 162 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Keano didn't test positive. That matters. That's a big difference. 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: But Zach, you know, he talked to Zach Martin. He's like, 164 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I was never playing in that game, So right, I 165 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: just I'll believe it when I see it. That's just 166 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the attitude that I prefer to have. Well, let's let's 167 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: really talk about what it means, because there's only only 168 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: it seems like there's one player that we've been talking 169 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: about in the last you know, two weeks, and that's 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. So everything kind of goes back to Micah Parsons. 171 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: And here we are. Kean O'Neill Dorin's Armstrong has an 172 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: ankle high ankle sprain, probably not going to play in 173 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the game. Hasn't been ruled out yet. We haven't seen 174 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: an official injury report yet. We probably will today. Um, 175 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: and so do you rush him on the outside or 176 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: now you've got a guy that may not be playing 177 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: next to him in the nickel? We're both you know, 178 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: But there we go. That's the answer. That's what he wants, 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: that's what he wants. Yeah, he doesn't he if he 180 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: was a hockey player, I don't think he would go 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: for like line changes and stuff like that. I mean 182 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: he'd go back. Yeah, he'd just be like, I'm I'm 183 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: out there. I asked him about it on Sunday if 184 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: you go here, he played Oh sorry, what was that? 185 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: I said, I'll play goalie. Sure, Oh yeah, he'd be 186 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: a one of those defensemen though, And I don't think 187 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: defenseman actually don't. They don't rotate the same, and so yeah, 188 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: of course he's definitely going to be a defenseman. Yeah, 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: because Stephen Jones, I'm sorry, Stephen Jones told me a 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: story that he actually played running back is in high 191 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: school and maybe even early in Penn State. Like was 192 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: that was maybe he was gonna do a little bit 193 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: of both, and then somebody got hurt on defense, and 194 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: then he decided to stay on defense. And that's where 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: the guys the guy snapped the ball, the guys played linebacker, 196 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: the guys played defensive end. Like those are things he's 197 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: just done. Here said yeah, like what what can't he do? 198 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna get an interception or a fumble, and he's 199 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: he's not gonna go down easy. And then and then 200 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: it's just gonna start off well, you know anything, if 201 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: Zeke can't can't run the ball better than that, I mean, 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: how about third and two? You know that's what's happened. Cool, 203 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: he's a football player. I love it. Give him put 204 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: it all on his plate. It's fine with me. So 205 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: what do you do with his role this week? I mean, 206 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: because you're right, you have now guy that presumably could 207 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: be out of defensive end. Now you did get one 208 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: back in Randy Gregory. You now got maybe a linebacker 209 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: that could be out. So what do you do with that? Like, 210 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: you got two different positions where you may be in need, 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and those are the two positions he plays. What do 212 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: you do with his role? I would rotate him between 213 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: edge rusher and spy linebacker depending on the situation. And 214 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: it's not there's not a one way to play it. 215 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: It does it doesn't depend on the down. Sorry, it 216 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: does depend on the down and the distance like third 217 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: and long. Love the idea of Micah Parsons being in 218 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: front of Jalen Hurts to clean it up if he 219 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: gets a mirror him. Yeah, absolutely, because that's what kills 220 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: you is when a guy like Jalen Hurts can convert 221 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: these long thir third downs where third and eight and 222 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Terrell Basham swipes at his ankle, but he gets away 223 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: and converts it. That's when I want Michael Parsons mirroring 224 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: whatever he does. Different situations bring him down and have 225 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: him rushed the passer they're short on the edge. Again, 226 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: if Dorrence Armstrong can't play, I think that should absolutely 227 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: be part of what he does. And you can platoon 228 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: that with Layton and Jalen to have them doing you know, 229 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: if he's down on the edge, then they can be 230 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: playing linebacker. But I want him doing it all. Yeah, 231 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: And I don't want Jalen Hurts getting good to read 232 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: on anything he's doing. You know, he's a young quarterback 233 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: that is still learning, still trying to pick up things, chill, 234 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: trying to read different defenses and schemes. And so you know, 235 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: right now, when you've looked at the Cowboys for two weeks, 236 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: you don't have a great feel on where Michael Parsons 237 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: is going to be. The first game was different, second 238 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: game was way different, and then maybe the third game 239 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: will be a combination of both. But you know, one 240 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: thing I will say, Nick on to that point, I 241 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: actually I'm okay in this instance, if Jalen Hurts knows 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: going into the game, and as the game transpires, he knows, 243 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I gotta deal with Michael Parsons one on one every play. 244 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: Here's why, because I think that's running is his security 245 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: blank You know some quarterbacks the tight ends a security blanket. 246 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: There's a particular receiver they love to go to. I 247 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: think for Jalen, the bread and butter of his game 248 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: is if everything doesn't work out, I can run, and 249 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: if I run, I think I can pick up good 250 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: yards if you get. Creates some indecision in those kind 251 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: of moments because he knows I got this linebacker coming 252 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: at me and he's fast and he's not gonna fall 253 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: for the elusive move whatever I might try to put on, 254 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: like he is coming and I don't know how I 255 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: can neutralize him. That creates indecision with him, and it 256 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: might force him to say, in situations where he may 257 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: otherwise run, well, let me see if I can get 258 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: this pass out there. And then he throws up and 259 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: he'll advise passed, and here you go turnover. Right, So 260 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm all good with I'm all good with this game. 261 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Michael Parson's them going into the game and saying you're 262 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna go get the quarterback. You stay with the quarterback, 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: don't let him do anything. You take that part of 264 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: their game away. I think that offense falls apart not 265 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: to doubt Micah's ability either. But I think it's worth 266 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: repeating this is not as favorable a matchup on the 267 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: edge as it was last week Rashawn Slater. He didn't 268 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: give Slater any trouble at all. Jordan Malata young player, 269 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: but seems to be very talented, lot of upside, very 270 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: athletic guy, played rugby. And then you got Lane Johnson, 271 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: who's one of the three or four best right tackles 272 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: in football. So I don't see him dominating as a 273 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: pass rusher the way that he did. It ain't storm no, 274 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: it ain't the swing tackle. So there's there's and there's no. 275 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: And I've argued with some people about this that are 276 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: ready to just, you know, put him next to the 277 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: LT in d were. I mean, nobody has ever gained 278 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: planned for Michael Parsons to play defensive end. It hasn't 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: happened yet. Nobody's ever done it, studied him on tape, 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: see what he likes to do, and says, all right, cool, 281 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: you want to play it that way, We're just gonna not, 282 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, get him up the field. And well, I mean, 283 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: think about it. The Cowboys used they studied Joey Bosa enough, 284 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, last week to actually run at him, leave 285 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: him unblocked at times, knowing how he's gonna get up 286 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: the field and do things to kind of go against him. 287 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: So it's just the Cowboys. You know, they got him 288 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: on that one. They didn't charge it, didn't know that 289 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: was happening. They got him. They exploited a matchup and 290 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: it worked. But let's just see before we say, oh, 291 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: this is where it needs to be, because because Zach 292 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Martin never played tackle before, but for some reason when 293 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: he got to the NFL, they were like, he's a guard. 294 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Based off everything he is, he's a guard. No one, 295 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: No one did this with Michael Parsons. No one said 296 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: he's a pass rusher. He's a Linebacker's that's where he's 297 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: always played. That's probably where he's gonna be. But we've 298 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: seen some pass rushing skills that can make it, you know, 299 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: pretty dynamic there as well. 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And again those 357 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: are great shows, but you gotta you gotta lead through 358 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: to talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars to get to the Cowboys, right, 359 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: So if you want just all Cowboys in your pregame 360 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: or post game, pull up the app on your television. 361 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: You can watch the pregame there. It's a great show. 362 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Same thing pre and post We have an outstanding pregame shows. 363 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: I mean really, it really really is. I mean we 364 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: think about just just the guys that the the experience 365 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: that goes into the room there with with Nate and 366 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: Isaiah and Barry Church and then Kyle Kyle's host Kyle hoston. 367 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: He puts a lot of work into it, and then 368 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys behind the scene. Britt Johnson's in 369 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: it now and go to the stadium a couple of times. Yep. 370 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: So it's I think it's a really great show. To me, 371 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that's a great opportunity if 372 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: you if you haven't tried it, to try the Cowboys 373 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: now app on those platforms and be able to watch 374 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: that pre and post game from your couch. All right, 375 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: So we got Bucky Brooks of NFL Network joining us 376 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: at Bucky, first of all, let me apologize because I 377 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: just used Jacksonville as the example there, and I know 378 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: you're a Jacksonville guy, so I just didn't want to 379 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of throw your team out there that you got 380 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: a little love for the city of Jacksonville. All right. 381 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: So here's what I got for y'all. Was looking at 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: some of the stats around this Philadelphia defense. They have 383 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: only allowed two touchdowns in two games. Uh. Now, obviously 384 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: we think the Dallas's offense is much better than Atlanta 385 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: or San Francisco. So my question for you is what 386 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: weaknesses can Dallas Dallas exploit that Atlanta and San Francisco 387 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: could not. Well. I think one you have to go 388 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: in to annoying that it's going to be kind of 389 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: a knockdown, drag out a fair. This is a world 390 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: coach team. Johnathan Gannon has done a really good job 391 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: of taking some of the principles that they learned from 392 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and putting them into play in Philadelphia. And those 393 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: who know Indianapolis know that that people fluce who's with 394 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is Alan Mary Nelly to five point. So 395 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: they do a lot of those things. It's all about hit, run, chase, 396 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: keep the ball in front, makes you take a lot 397 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: of plays to be able to score. And what they 398 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: hope is that they can throw you off chilter and 399 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: make you settle for field goals as opposed to touchdowns. 400 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: And that's what they've been able to do the first 401 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: couple games. And so for the Cowboys, this will be 402 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: a test of patients. I be a test of can 403 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: we be content with the three, four or five yard 404 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: game as opposed to the explosive play, and if they 405 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: can be patient and avoid the ton of these and 406 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: the mistakes they've bogged down some teams, then they shouldn't 407 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: have a problem scoring. But I would anticipate this being 408 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: one of those one score fairs. You're just gonna have 409 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: to kind of outlast the Philadephia Eagles when it comes 410 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: to your offensive approach. That kind of sounds like what 411 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: they faced against San Diego. Is that an accurate assessment 412 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles something? Geez? I mean, yeah, No, I think 413 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a very I think it's a very 414 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: safe assessment that the games could be very similar internative 415 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: how the Charges played, how they're not going to allow 416 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: you to have the explosive plays in those things, and 417 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: how Philadephia wants to play the same way. Philadephia has 418 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: not been able to generate the turnovers that they want, 419 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: but they have play very, very solid defense, and so 420 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: it's going to take what I call a workman like 421 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: effort from everyone involved with the offense to get it going. 422 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: And so Kellen Moore, My McCarthy, they have to make 423 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: sure that the way that they attack the Eagles is 424 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: one that doesn't necessarily put the ball in harm's way 425 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: so they can make sure that they don't gift extra 426 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: opportunities to the Eagle Bucky. On your five Bucks column 427 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: that you wrote this week, you said one of your 428 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: points was two backs is greater than one. And of 429 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: course that's a big talking point around here with Zeke 430 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: and Pollard. Can you explain that a little bit more 431 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: on why it works so well here with the Cowboys. Yeah, 432 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: I can't really understand why there's this national debate about 433 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard in the place Ezekiel Elliott and those things. 434 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I understand, like people get caught up in terms of 435 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: like what people get paid. Well, look, man, it's like dominoes. 436 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: Once dominoes laid to play, like it's over. Like they 437 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: paid Zeke the money. Zeke is there. So now you're 438 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's the best way for the 439 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: object to play. And when you go and you look 440 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys one, I'm excited to see them run 441 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the ball, Like when they run the ball over thirty times, 442 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: its normally a recipe for success. And so Ezekiel running 443 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: between the tackles the power runners, softening up the defense 444 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: so that Tony Poller can get onto edges and do 445 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: what he does in space. I think it's a nice combination. 446 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: I like the way that they have it going back 447 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: and forth, and I think it's something that the Cowboys 448 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: should continue to do because also, don't forget there's an 449 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: extra game. It's a seventeen game season, and to think 450 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: that you're going to put it all on the shoulders 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: of one back over and extended a marathon of a season, 452 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it's really not sensible. If anything, what you would like 453 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: to do is see it kind of evenly distributed, and 454 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: then as you get down the stretch when it's to 455 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: dash for the playoffs, then maybe it goes in favor 456 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: of Ezekiel Eli if he's playing better than Tony Poll 457 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: or vice versa. But right now, keep it even utilize 458 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: both of them led both of those guys attacked the 459 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: defense while they're pressed. I think it's really a sensible 460 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: solution to what they want to be able to do 461 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: on our caense, So buck Is, I think as long 462 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: as I've been here, the Eagles front has kind of 463 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: been a pain for the Cowboys, But the Cowboys have 464 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of success against their secondary from the 465 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: time of Mary Cooper got here. Dak Prescott's averaging three 466 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: hundred and eight passing yards a game against the Eagles, 467 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: and there's a new element of that. Stephen Nelson came 468 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: over from Pittsburgh right at the start of training camp. 469 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: We know all about Darius Slay, but can you give 470 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: us a snapshot on Nelson and what he brings to 471 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: this and whether that's a favorable matchup for anybody in 472 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys passing game? Well, I mean, Nelson is a 473 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: really good player, but he's a good player really kind 474 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: of coming off the edge and blisten and doing some 475 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: creative things. I wouldn't say that he's necessarily a high 476 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: end cover guy. And so what happens and the problem 477 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys present, they have receivers that are really good, 478 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: and typically you don't have enough to match up with 479 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: what they can put out here, even though Michael Gallup 480 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: is an available a steal with Stete Lamb and a 481 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: Maury Cooper, and the thought of defending the running game 482 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: and potentially what you have to deal with at the 483 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: tide ends, it's a lot to think about. So you 484 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: have to prioritize what's most important. I would say the 485 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: most important thing for Dallas that you have to stop. 486 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: You got to stop the running game. Because you let 487 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: them have a multidimensional attack, you have no chance. So 488 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: you got to make sure you bottle up the ze 489 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Elliott and take care of Tony College so they don't 490 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: hurt you. And so now what it does is it 491 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: does create some one on what opportunities for Steven Nelson 492 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: has to hold up and say it's against CD or 493 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper. If they see that and if they can 494 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: identify that, particularly in a single high safety coverage, I 495 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: think they're going to attack him. They're gonna attack his almsses. 496 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's defensive end Brandon Graham has been placed on IR 497 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: He will not play obviously this week. Who will presumably 498 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: fill in for him? And how much of the loss 499 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: is that for Philadelphia's defense. I mean it's a loss 500 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: because he's one of the leaders of the defense. He's 501 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: a high motor guy. He's a guy that isn't necessarily 502 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: a double digit back producer, but he's a prostive pass rushler. 503 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, Ryan Kerrigan who's in the rotation, have Darry 504 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: Barnette who's in the mix, I would expect those guys 505 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: to pick up the flat Now, I'll be honest with 506 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Kregan. Ryan Karrigan is not what he was during 507 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: his time with a Watchington football team, but still he 508 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: can still work over tackles that kind of falls keep 509 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: at the will and they're not sound with their technique, 510 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: So you have to be aware of him. You have 511 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: to be aware of Barnette being able to come off 512 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: the edge. But this is a team that kind of 513 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: does it by committee, and so the anything you got 514 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that you don't get deep inside that 515 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: make sure you take care of the inside part of 516 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: the deep slot. You know, you just got done saying 517 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: that Pollard and Zeke, that doesn't really matter who's who's 518 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: doing you know the most or you know, just as 519 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: long as you use them both. You feel the same 520 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: about tied end for the Cowboys, I mean, Chultz Jarwin, 521 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: do you feel like you know they're getting it done 522 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: by committee? There doesn't really matter who's doing more there. Yeah, 523 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: I kind of think it's the same because I don't 524 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: think there's a huge difference between the way both of 525 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: those guys are playing right now. I know the shelf 526 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: had a fantastic year a season ago, but I think 527 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: right now, the Stears just kind of getting the scraps 528 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: in the passing end because the ball is going outside 529 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: to the wide receivers. Ideally, though, you would like to 530 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: see someone emerge as the middle of the feel threat 531 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: because that will also loosen the blanket on the guys 532 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: outside Lamb and Cooper, respectively. But right now, both of 533 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: these guys are kind of even steven when it comes 534 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: to what they're producing on them come the field. You 535 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: mentioned Erican not being what he used to be. What 536 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: does Fletcher Cox look like these days? Because I like 537 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: the reputation speaks for itself, and he had a good 538 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: year last year, but he is, you know, he's thirty now. 539 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: Just curious if he still looks like himself two games 540 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: into the season. I mean, he's fine, but I think 541 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: at this stage he's a flash player, so he can 542 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: give you a couple of splash plays, but he's not 543 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: going to be a consistent, dominant force that he was 544 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: early in his career. And so what you have to 545 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: do is you have to make sure your gear up 546 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: for those big moments right third down. Too many situations 547 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: where has no situations where he can make a play. 548 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: He tends to kind of pop up and make plays, 549 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: and that was almost more so than a complete takeover 550 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: that he used to put on display when he was younger. 551 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll take that. That's that's a little a little easier 552 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: to defend. Yeah, when um all right, So Bucky, tell us, 553 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: what are you thinks gonna happen Monday night? I think 554 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: I think if the Cowboys are focused and locked in, 555 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a game that plays well for 556 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: them if they just line up and play and take 557 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: what the defense has given them on offense like they 558 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: did the last two weeks, whether that's the pass, every 559 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: menu or run or balanced menu, they have to do that. 560 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: I think they just have to be patient. Defensively, I 561 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: think it's still finding a way to be creatives and 562 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: still unleash Michael Parsons in their front. Depending on who's 563 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: back and who's in the lineup, you have some things. 564 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: But I think we are seeing that Michael Parsons is 565 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: a huge difference maker, and even though there's been a 566 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: rounds field of national attention around him, I still think 567 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: dan Quinn has to unleash him and let him do 568 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: what he does. I think he's at invest going forward 569 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: then backwards, so keep him blitzing, keep him rushing, find 570 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the way they allow him to make some flash leads 571 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: in the game. All right, but appreciate you joining us. 572 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break when we come back. 573 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: I have some questions for these guys. We're going to 574 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about this Dallas offense, particularly 575 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Tyler Beadis some questions they're going into 576 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: the season. We'll find out how these guys think he's 577 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: been playing so far through two games. Well do that 578 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: when we coming back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Hi, 579 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm Clint Tullison with United aggin Turf. 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We just finished our second with Bucky Brooks 624 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: talking about the Philadelphia Dallas matchup. Remember tomorrow we'll give 625 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: you guys our thoughts on what we think is going 626 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: to happen in that game Monday night. We'll not have 627 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: a show on Monday because we won't because it's a 628 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: game day, but we'll do a wrap up tomorrow and 629 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: then come back on Tuesday let you know what we 630 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: think happened in the Monday night game. For the rest 631 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: of our time today, though, I'd like to talk a 632 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: little bit about the Dallas offense, and I want to 633 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: zero in here on the offensive line for a bit. 634 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: We've talked about this unit, I think quite a bit, 635 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: and I think as a unit, they we all agree 636 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: they looked pretty good through two games. I think the 637 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: quarterback helps. When you have a quarterback that can get 638 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly, and I saw moments in 639 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: this last game that was really really the case. I 640 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: think that helps the entire unit. But we haven't really 641 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: assessed I don't think some of the individual players, and 642 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to tie up first talk about Tyler Biottish 643 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: because he was a guy that back going back even 644 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to training camp, there was a lot of talk about him, 645 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Connor Williams, who was the 646 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: better fit. How would each of them play in given situations? 647 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Talk to me about what you've seen from Tyler Biottish 648 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: and from Connor Williams, and through these first two games, 649 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Tyler beiandist is off of his feet a lot. I 650 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like, I just, I mean, it's not a good thing. 651 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: For no, No, that's very bad. That's not good. I mean, 652 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: and Vita Vea is about as hard as a draw 653 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: as you could ask for. And sue for that matter. Um, 654 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: I just there was a play in that Buccaneers game 655 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: where they they have picked Tyler up and carried him 656 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: to Dak. I mean, that's basically what happened. And and 657 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: I thought that there were some I thought that happened 658 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: a little bit in this last game as well, not 659 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: as dramatically as that. But he's a young player who 660 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot of football. I've always this goes 661 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: back to the spring when Nick and I were kind 662 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: of just banging the drum, like why is Tyler the 663 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: only center on this team? And I don't I'm not 664 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: accusing the Cowboys of this, but there's been this narrative 665 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: of like, he went to Wisconsin, he won the Remington Trophy, 666 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: so they just they it's Frederick two point oh, he's 667 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: a beast and he was a fourth round pick. I mean, 668 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: it's just and there were all of the concerns that 669 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: go along with the tape of a fourth round pick 670 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: were there. Some of it was his injury, but some 671 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: of it was, like, yeah, I mean, if if you 672 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: are Travis Frederick was a first round pick. Not everybody 673 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: agreed with that, but he had the talent to make 674 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: it happen. Um, I've been writing fifth round pick for 675 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: like two years now, have I been wrong? I really 676 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: thought I think he was a fourth Well he traded 677 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: up with the Eagles, like the second fourth round pick. Yeah, 678 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: yeah he was. I think he was ther second fourth 679 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: round picks never gonna be good. I'm not well, I 680 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: don't I'm not ready to say that he's not good. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. Yeah, 681 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: he was picked one forty six fourth round, and I 682 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't argue with you about what rounds people were. But 683 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: I always thought he was a fifth round He's a 684 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: fourth and I was the fifth. Um. But that's the 685 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: funny thing. Like he had played four or started four 686 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: NFL games coming into this season, so this shouldn't be 687 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: terribly surprising. I think Connor Williams has been pretty damn good. 688 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I think PFF has credited him with one pressure allowed 689 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: through two games. So that's exciting to see for a 690 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: guy hard where everybody was like, he go be should 691 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: he be your center? Like yeah, yeah, um. So that's 692 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: vindicating for me because I think he's certainly not Zack Martin, 693 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: but I think that is the comparison for a lot 694 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: of people. So everybody's dogged on him for years for 695 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: not being an All Pro m you know. So I 696 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: also think too about Connor Williams, is that when you 697 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: have a left tackle like Tyrn Smith who's playing pretty good. 698 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean like he's playing Tyrant Smith football. Now, he 699 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: gave up a sac and that was his and that 700 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: was one we haven't seen a lot of. But we've 701 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: also seen him kind of shut it down over there 702 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: as well, and I think when that's happening, it certainly 703 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: helps your left guard. And so, you know, Connor Williams 704 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: coming back from injury last year and having to play 705 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of different guys moving around, I bet 706 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: you it's a lot easier for him and for anybody 707 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: when you know, when you've got all pros sitting there. 708 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to throw this out there too. Stephen Jones 709 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: in his post game. You know, he talks to one 710 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: oh five three every Monday after the game, and he 711 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: said something, or maybe it was before the game, but 712 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: he said something along the lines of, like, the two 713 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: Connors are both getting practice reps at center like we're 714 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: doing and that's new. McGovern played center in college. He's 715 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: very rarely ever done it here. So it does make 716 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: me wonder. I think I think it's fair to say 717 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: center is the weak link of this offensive line right now. 718 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: That's not I'm not throwing dirt on Tyler Beatis. He's 719 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: this was his sixth NFL start, But that's so somebody 720 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: has to be right. And I would even say Terrence 721 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: Steele played better against the Chargers than Tyler Beiottish did. 722 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: So it's definitely something to watch. I wonder if Connor 723 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: Williams had had a better preseason if maybe that would 724 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: be something that they would consider. Maybe if they'd started 725 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: doing it before they got to Oxnard. Who knows. It's 726 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: almost like you should have two centers setting into training camp. Um, 727 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's something to watch. I thought, 728 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not pressing panic buttons about Tyler Beiottish, 729 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: but he's he looks like a second year player who's 730 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: still very, very raw. After going back and watching the film, 731 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: did you did you think Terrence still played as well 732 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: as we thought he did on Monday? Yeah, I actually did. 733 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I thought I thought he there were some times where 734 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: he got you know, he got some help. I think 735 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: they're always gonna get some help. Yeah, you know, even 736 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Lyell was going to will get some, but but not 737 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: not that much. But I thought I thought he played. 738 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought he played really well. And you know, he 739 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: got stronger in the this year, which most second year 740 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: players get stronger, and I thought it showed at times, 741 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: and they're not afraid to run behind him that, you know, 742 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: and even down to the goal line or short yard situations. 743 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: And you know, having Zach there helps, just like I 744 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: said about Connor and Tyran Smith. And so I thought 745 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: he did a really nice job in the game. And 746 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: I think his you know, he's just got some athletic 747 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: ability to him that you just don't see a lot 748 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: from the right tackle position. So you know, just just 749 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: keep going. It's gonna get it's gonna get tough. This week, 750 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: aus Dave said when he was talking to Bucky, we 751 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: talked about this before. Just plug I mean, just put 752 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: the Eagle helmet on and put him out a defensive end. 753 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: And for some reason, I seriously don't care who it is, 754 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: they are always good. I mean we named five or 755 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: six seven players that it. They always seem to have, 756 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, and they always seem to have six got 757 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: like we're over here, always just like, well do they 758 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: have enough to play this game? Durance Armstrong camp play 759 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence's Eagles are just like brand Graham went down. 760 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Well we have Ryan Carrigan for that. Yeah, which he's 761 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: not Ryan Kerrigan him six seven years ago. He's still 762 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: good player. I would assume I would have. I told 763 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: Nick yesterday, like I would have signed him to that 764 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: deal that the Eagles gave him. And part of me 765 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: when he became a free agent, I was like, well, 766 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: he's mister Washington. He's not the type of guy like 767 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware didn't want to go into division signed with 768 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Well, that didn't surprise me, just because I 769 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of always thought not that I've talked to him 770 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: or anything, but I always thought that the way that 771 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: they went out and just started drafting guys to replace him, 772 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: at some point, he probably looking like I'm a good player, Like, 773 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: why are you trying to replace me? Like there are 774 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: a lot of other places on this team? Could The 775 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is if he was willing 776 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: to sign in the division, why ain't he here? Yeah? Right? 777 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: The Eagles are the kings of doing deals that I 778 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: want to do. Stephen Nelson pretty decently solid, experienced cornerback. 779 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: Not like the Cowboys need one of those. He signed 780 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: on July twenty fifth for three and a half mill. Yeah. 781 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: The Eagles just stay doing deals that I want the 782 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys to do. It's the only thing they do. And like, 783 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up a Cowboy fan, and so I 784 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: don't have like this long seated animosity. But every year 785 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm just like, there goes, how are you doing what 786 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: I want the Cowboys to do? And it pisses me 787 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: off after a while. You know, I did notice one 788 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: thing we talked about Terren Steele, and I remember it 789 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: last week. I think it was Stephen last week that 790 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, there is some benefit to having 791 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: a Zach Martin there at guard when you've got that 792 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: inexperienced guy at tackle, and they didn't experience guy at center. 793 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: And I noticed on one play specifically, basically Bosa got 794 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: by Terren Steele and you saw Zach just kind of 795 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: dip right over and Zach already had one guy on 796 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: his left shoulder, and now he's got Bosa coming on 797 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: the right. And luckily it just slowed things down a 798 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: bit so that Dak could get the ball off. But 799 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: that's the benefit, and I think Terren still played a really, 800 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: really fabulous game. But I do think it has some 801 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: value having a guy like Zach Martin that can help 802 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: him out in those kind of moments, just to give 803 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: your quarterback an extra beat. I don't remember if Bucky 804 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: said his name during the breakdown, but Zach might have. 805 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Fletcher Cox. But don't forget about Javon 806 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: Hargrave either. He's very very good. He's he seems like 807 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: he's off to a good start. Based on what I've 808 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: seen in the Eagles, I think he's either leaders second 809 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: in quarterback pressures for them. I think he's a hell 810 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: of a player in his own right. So I'm just 811 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: saying Zach Martin's great, but he's got a lot of 812 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles have stronger players on the interior. 813 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. All Right, that's a 814 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: rap for us. We got to get to a coach 815 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: McCarthy's press conference. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll wrap up 816 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: everything and get you guys ready for the Cowboys versus 817 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: the Eagles on Monday Night football. 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