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Speaker 1: you're defending AMC South champion. Houston Texans are back for

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Speaker 1: training camp. Fifteen yard touchdown roun for Dashaun Watson. Welcome

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Speaker 1: John's Houston. Now, let's go down to the Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: Training Center. Here are your hosts, Mark Vandermere and John Harris.

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Speaker 1: Bright blue sky, heat and humidity kicking in here at

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Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris with

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Speaker 1: you as we continue at Texans Training Camp coverage right

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Speaker 1: near the field, about fifteen yards away from the sideline

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Speaker 1: of field one. Here we are as the team will

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Speaker 1: practice outdoors today, no pads today, but plenty of action

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Speaker 1: in the NFL kickoff game, the league opener. It will

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Speaker 1: That's what they're hanging on to right now in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: And let's hope that continues. Around the league. A lot

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Speaker 1: National Football League. And Johnny, good morning. Here we go

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Speaker 1: the matter at hand, preparing the football team for battle.

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Speaker 1: So far, so good here at Texans camp. I gotta

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Speaker 1: I'd have to think about that one. Well, the bulls

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Speaker 1: You know, he missed two games. With only two games,

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Speaker 1: the people kept talking about his concussion issues. So he

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Speaker 1: is real fired up about Brandon Cooks and listened to

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Speaker 1: way Fellas talking Way not a big biezzer. If he

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Speaker 1: had liked him, he wouldn't have talked like that. He said.

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Speaker 1: He called him spectacular. That is a spectacular and he

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Speaker 1: can be There's no question about that. John and Austin's

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Speaker 1: actually both of you guys. Brandy Cooks started with the Saints.

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Speaker 1: He went to the Pats for a year. He went

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Speaker 1: to the Rams and now he's with the Texans. I

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Speaker 1: know some people have brought the fact that he's bounced

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Speaker 1: from team to team to team and not not able

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Speaker 1: to stick. Does that John will start with you, Zepp,

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Speaker 1: Were you in any way, shape or form the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has moved? I mean, obviously that's great. We've

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Speaker 1: heard that from a number of different people about Brandy

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Speaker 1: Cooks and he just watching him on the sidelines and

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Speaker 1: how interactive he is with the players, how he talks

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Speaker 1: to the rookies, you can see all of that. Does

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Speaker 1: it were you at all that he has played for

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Speaker 1: different teams in his career because all those things you

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Speaker 1: told me would make me think and this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that I wouldn't want on my team for ten

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Speaker 1: years and I wouldn't want him to leave. Well, I'm

660
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Speaker 1: going to explain it the next time anybody asks you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you can tell him exactly why. The Saints wanted to

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Speaker 1: draft wesconsin tackle Ryan Ramcheck. So they traded a low

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Speaker 1: number one to New England for the pick they drafted

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Speaker 1: Ryan Ramcheck. He started every game since then at right tackle.

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Speaker 1: They've had a great year with the Patriots. They don't

666
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Speaker 1: pay big bucks to anybody other than they did it

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Speaker 1: with Stephan Gilmore. They did not want to have to

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Speaker 1: pay Cooks a big contract. Rams had no problem doing it,

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Speaker 1: so they traded for him, brought him out there. He had,

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Speaker 1: let's see, eighty catches for twelve hundred and eighty yards

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Speaker 1: and helped him go to the Super Bowl. Wade said

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Speaker 1: he played an instrumental role in USK wing the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago where they lost to the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and so he got his big contract. So that's why

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Speaker 1: he has been traded because they wanted a RAM check

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Speaker 1: because they didn't want to pay him, and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's with fourth team now. The Rams used that pick

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Speaker 1: from the Texans to draft the young receiver. Can't remember

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Speaker 1: which one it was, But Wade didn't seem concerned earned

680
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Speaker 1: in the least about the issues he had last year. Now,

681
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Speaker 1: if he gets it in the head, like any player

682
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: gets it in the head, they're going on concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: But I had to listen Wade talked about him on

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Speaker 1: and off the record. I'm really fired of about watching

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Speaker 1: him with the Sean Watson. I also think that with

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Speaker 1: the Rams and salary cap trouble that played big into

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Speaker 1: their their ability or their desire to move on and

688
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Speaker 1: start with a younger guy and more affordable guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I don't I mean what John said, but what

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Speaker 1: you said, Mark, it all makes a ton of sense. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But I think for for some people, they've want they've

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Speaker 1: wondered that. I just take it for what I see

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Speaker 1: for Brandon Cooks here, and I try to do that

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Speaker 1: whenever the Texans get a player here. You know, the

695
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Speaker 1: same with Eric Murray. I mean, everybody's like Eric Murray's

696
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: never started anywhere, Well, well, what's what's he gonna do? Well,

697
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Speaker 1: maybe hasn't had a chance to. Maybe he gets the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to here in Houston, and maybe he makes makes

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Speaker 1: the most of it. That's happened for players before, you haven't.

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Speaker 1: You don't all always walk in with eight years of

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Speaker 1: experience into a role. Sometimes you have to start, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the first time. And so I just wanted you

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Speaker 1: guys to kind of break that down for people that

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Speaker 1: there are there aren't excuses for him other places. There

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00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: are reasons that he ended up leaving those places. John,

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Speaker 1: what about the defense as a whole here? What are

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Speaker 1: you looking for? What are you looking at as far

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Speaker 1: as the way the season's going to get started with

709
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: these really tough teams, what do you expect out of

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00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: that side of the football. I'm not really paying attention

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Speaker 1: about the starters who are returning. We know what they

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00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: can do when they're healthy. Of what I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: is Charles Amne, who's development in his second season when

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Speaker 1: players usually make their biggest improvement. He's getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of playing time with JJ Watt being on the sideline

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00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: working out. And then I'm looking at Jacob martin his

717
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: second year in this system, have that big playoff game

718
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: against Buffalo, three and a half sacks during regular season.

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Speaker 1: You know he only played twenty percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 1: What will he do if he played forty? And then

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, I'm looking at Lonnie Johnson Junior the

722
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: same situation as the men who going into his second

723
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Speaker 1: season experienced them ups and downs as a rookie, especially

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Speaker 1: in the Kansas City playoff loss, trying to cover Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: which he would not have had to do if to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Gibson and Lila die had been healthy. And then

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Speaker 1: the other ones, Eric Murray, just because he's new, they're

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Speaker 1: giving him a lot of responsibilities. Sometimes he's around the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and reads deep. Sometimes reads deep and

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Speaker 1: he's around the line of scrimmage. They liked both of

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Speaker 1: them to be interchangeable, he told us. He said, you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, I looked at Justin as kind of an enforcer,

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Speaker 1: and I'm more of a covered guy. But I can

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Speaker 1: do that too, and they seem to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence in him. I want to see if he

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Speaker 1: can do here what he couldn't do at Kansas City

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, which is earned a starting job. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've brought this up on the show

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Speaker 1: at all. Last night, late right before I went to bed,

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Speaker 1: saw the news about Ron rivera head coach for the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team, has been diagnosed with lymph node cancer.

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Speaker 1: Now we've seen that, I don't know about that particular

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Speaker 1: type of cancer, but we've seen cancer strike head coaches before.

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Speaker 1: We saw with Chuck Pagano and he took over in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had much much opportunity to

746
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Speaker 1: be around Ron covering the league or not, but I

747
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: feel like people have a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for him. What do you know about Ron and

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Speaker 1: what do you know people say about him as a

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Speaker 1: leader of that football team. I watched him play for

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Speaker 1: a long time and then watch him the assistant coach

752
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: and then of course the head coach of the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: And the most time I was ever around him was

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Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl. And everybody likes him, everybody respects him.

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Speaker 1: He was a hard worker, an overachiever as a player,

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Speaker 1: so you know everybody's gonna be pulling for him. He's

757
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: in a situation Bill O'Brien was last year. He's a

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Speaker 1: general manager without the title. He's a head of personnel,

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: and everybody wishes him the best. They think if anybody

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Speaker 1: could go up there and turn that around, that it

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00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: would be him. You know, the key for the new

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Speaker 1: president and the new coach is will Dan Snyder stay

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Speaker 1: out of the way. Will he get into them the

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Speaker 1: money to do what they need to do and then

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Speaker 1: get out of the way, which he is not done,

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Speaker 1: And maybe he will now maybe he's learned finally after

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Speaker 1: twenty years as an owner, an owner needs to give

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Speaker 1: him the resources, keep up with what's going on, but

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Speaker 1: then get out of their way. Let him do the

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Speaker 1: jobs hired him to do, or fire him, John McLean

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Speaker 1: joining us in the Houston Chronicle General. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the time. We look forward to catch it

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Speaker 1: up later on. I know you'll be on the afternoon

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Speaker 1: program today. All right, well, and I will see you

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Speaker 1: guys when I'm walking underneath you while your John's on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. You're up in your perch. Let's call it

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Speaker 1: the throne. Marks up there in his throne above everybody

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Speaker 1: looking down on his flock. It's the vander Bryant Tower.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and he's her, Thanks John. He is exact,

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Speaker 1: And that is exactly the way it goes. It's it's

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Speaker 1: exact the way it goes. Yesterday during the scrimmage, Mark

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Speaker 1: so your purse, cal mcmay should really be up here, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I mean he should. This is a great spot for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that would want to be up

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Speaker 1: there with you, right. It's embarrassing. I want to be

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Speaker 1: He's got our game day set up here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is awesome. All right, Let's get into the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Who's the biggest linebacker. It's a tie, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they were all yeah, off Sunday, but Monday, Tuesday, they

894
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Speaker 1: Every practice we've seen has been in pads, and they'll

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Speaker 1: be out of them today, So I guess they deserve

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Speaker 1: Back to its Sunday. The days off or coming faster

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Speaker 1: than usual. Let's break down linebackers now here Johnny as

901
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I said, who's the biggest, So who's the biggest linebacker?

902
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: John Grenard? Yeah, and it's a tie with Brendan Scarlett.

903
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: By the way, as far as listed weights, and I

904
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't look at the roster or anything. Okay, I just

905
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: went with it. Grenard, I mean, he's just built. All right,

906
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: let's start there. I want to start with the rooks. Okay,

907
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go. Let's go Jonathan Grenard, rookie

908
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: out of Florida, and we gotta go quick here. There's

909
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: a lot of linebackers go yeah, you know that. I

910
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: that Friday night, that pick was the one that I wanted.

911
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: I just looked at my list, at my Harris one hundred,

912
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: and I thought he's still on the board. I think

913
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: he can help this team. You predicted it, and he's

914
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: been even even twitchier than I expected. He's got he's

915
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: got some juice. He's gonna find his way on the

916
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: field for this team. And unfortunately Duke get before going

917
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: down could elevate him to another level of reps, and

918
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: he's gotten a ton of them. But I think he's

919
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: a player. I think in due time, the Texans are

920
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: going to know as long as he stays healthy, he's

921
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that can rely on for

922
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: a long time. All Right. So Jacob Martin, who was

923
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: acquired on the trade with Seatle last year. I had

924
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: a nice year. McLain talked about him. He's twenty pounds

925
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: lighter I think Gurnard, So he's another outside linebacker. Tell me,

926
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, pass rush is his game, man. You watch

927
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Speaker 1: him do pass rush one on ones and you can

928
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: see the tackles they try, and they try and get

929
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: their kickstep and their punch as fast as possible because

930
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: if they don't, Martin is buy him. He's got the

931
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Speaker 1: quickest first step and more speed than anybody I've ever

932
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Speaker 1: seen on a field here at the Texans, with the

933
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: Texans an anytime. I mean, he's so blazing fast off

934
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: the edge. Now, that does hurt him a little bit,

935
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: those twenty pounds because he doesn't hold up against the

936
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Speaker 1: run all that well. And that's that scares you, because

937
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: his teams know when he's on the field he's pass rushing,

938
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: and it's the one thing you don't want teams to know.

939
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do is that and my personnel they

940
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: can look at it and go, yeah, that guy is

941
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. So that's fine though, because if

942
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: you've got other guys out there they're worried about Jacob Martin,

943
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna forget about ninety nine or ninety or ninety four,

944
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: and I'm cool with that, all right. Davin Bellamy, who

945
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: people know the name now, former undrafted free agent? What

946
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: about his shot? Don't forget about me? Davin Bellamy just

947
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: continues to rush. I mean, he's not Jacob Martin in

948
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: a sense that he's probably more a two way player.

949
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: He's got the size to be able to set the

950
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: edge well and all that, but he really pops when

951
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: he rushes the quarterback. And I know he works on it.

952
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I know as rush coach Chuck Smith. He works with

953
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Chuck non stop and Davin I have talked about this

954
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: over the years. Chuck has taught him a couple of

955
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: moves that I could see Davin working on that he

956
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's taken a couple of years to really

957
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: get to this point, but I think he's got a

958
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: really good opportunity of making this rush. It's gonna be hard,

959
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: but man, if he keeps rushing the way that he is,

960
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really difficult to keep him off that roster.

961
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: Andre Ware was up here yesterday saying, Davin Bellamy looking

962
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: pretty good. So he made that boy. Brennan Scarlett year five. Now, Yeah,

963
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: old reliable man, just does anything and everything you ask him.

964
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: Do Hey, you need inside linebacker Brendon step in there?

965
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: You outside linebacker, Devin. You know Brendan, you got it.

966
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I need to rush from the inside. You got it.

967
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: He's NFL PA rep for the team. He is one

968
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: of my favorite players at the Texas have ever had,

969
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: just because he does anything and everything. If it's this

970
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: year where he has to just be a special teams guy,

971
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: he'll be the best special teams guy there is. That's

972
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: he just gives you everything. You've gotta have players like

973
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: that on in your organization to win a championship. They

974
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: love him. Pelter callum Bai again a versatile guy because

975
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: when he got here was outside linebacker. Now he's transitioned

976
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: inside and he's picking up the inside part of it

977
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: pretty well too. And I saw yesterday, it was yesterday

978
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: the day before I kim remember, which they're all running

979
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: together now. But Deshaun came out of empty and he

980
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: looked around. He looked around, and I knew immediately what

981
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: he wanted. He had fells on CALLUMBAYI and he kept

982
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: looking around. He knew that he wanted that. But he

983
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: was just checking it out and running a play clock down,

984
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: just you know, just as a deek. But he knew

985
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: immediately he wanted Fells, and Callum By stayed right and

986
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: Darren Fell's hip his Fells was about to take it in,

987
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Callum biy Rake knocked it out and thought, man, if

988
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: he can cover one on one like that, and he's

989
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: got a decent opportunity of getting on the field at

990
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: some point. But I think it's gonna be an inside linebacker.

991
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: And here's another thought. If the Texans do a little

992
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: bit of four man line, a little four three some

993
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: even front stuff, then I think there's a possibility that

994
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: Callum Bike could be a third linebacker on the field

995
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: until Dylan Cole gets fully healthy. Wow, Whitney, I mean,

996
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: what do you say about Whitney. He's done pretty much

997
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: everything except get an opportunity to go to the Pro Bowl,

998
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: and he should have a couple of years ago. He's

999
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: done everything you want. When JJ was healthy last year,

1000
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: and he could feed off that he won his one

1001
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: on one battles. That's the key. When JJ's on the field,

1002
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: the other guys must win their one on one battles.

1003
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: And Whitney has won many of them over the years.

1004
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: He's not missed a day of practice here. He's available

1005
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: all the time, and you've got to have that. And

1006
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he gets that double digit sacked number

1007
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: because if he does that and walk gets there, this

1008
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: pass rush is gonna be exactly what we think it

1009
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: is what it can be this year. And I think,

1010
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: what's a big, big reason for that pass rush being

1011
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: where it is, and hopefully he can help take it

1012
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: to a different level. Ninety year for Whitney well, and

1013
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: how about sixty year for bernard Ric McKinney two hundred

1014
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: and fifty seven pounds. That was before breakfast six four

1015
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: b MAC. Some people think, oh, he doesn't fit in

1016
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: today's NFL. He doesn't fit in today's NFL. If there's

1017
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: one thing that's really gotten better and better over the

1018
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: years for BMAC, it's his cover skills and look, covering

1019
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: the running backs nowadays in the NFL is not easy.

1020
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: It is not easy. But I know that Benardric has

1021
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: worked at it. He's improved that part of his game.

1022
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: But he's the soul for this defense. He is the

1023
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: soul this he is what gives this defense. It's you

1024
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: know energy. I've seen him numerous times over the years

1025
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: in a sudden change situation. He's the guy that rallies

1026
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: the troops. He's the guy that grabs guys by the

1027
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: shoulder pads in the face, Matt saying, Hey, believe in me,

1028
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: believe in us. We can get this thing done. I

1029
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: don't know where his defense would be without him. He's

1030
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: an absolute stud. Zach Cunningham. I mean, come on, what

1031
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: is it that Zach Cunningham doesn't do well? I mean,

1032
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: other than talk. He doesn't like to talk. He doesn't

1033
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: like to get on the radio with us or do

1034
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: He's good when he does, he is, He's very good.

1035
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: He just doesn't like to do it. And I think

1036
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: because of the fact that he's not mister put it

1037
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: on Instagram or put it on Twitter or be a

1038
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: great mouthpiece, that you don't hear a lot about him

1039
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: around the league. But I know Week three, I went

1040
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: we went out to the La charges in Daniel Jeremiah,

1041
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: who has draft stuff for NFL Network is also the

1042
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: color analysts for the Chargers on radio, and so he

1043
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: came over to me and we chit chat for like

1044
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: ten seconds and then he goes he goes Man. Cuttingham

1045
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: is so much better than I even thought he was

1046
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna be. It is the first name he brought up. Wow.

1047
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: And then after that we talked about what we talked about. Watson.

1048
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: Cunningham was the first name he brought up with me,

1049
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: and I said, Daniel, I said, this guy is so

1050
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: much better than people think around the league. They just

1051
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: don't know about him. You know what it is, you

1052
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: left evaluators. You remember your misses more than you remember

1053
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: your makes. You know what I mean. You're still talking

1054
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: about Dwayne Brown. All right? One phrase on each of

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Speaker 1: they're playing the game. The chess match for them is

1262
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: the game itself. The chess match for football coaches is

1263
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: from play to play to play to play. So if

1264
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: we're empty, how do we change how do we change

1265
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: the coverage? What do we want to Yeah, and that's

1266
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: my point is that the coaches are worried about that

1267
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: chess match, and these Madden players are worried about how

1268
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: do you play the game? When do you take your timeouts?

1269
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: These guys use timeouts masterfully. And then I would talk

1270
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: to him afterwards, and I remember talking to the guy

1271
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: who ended up winning it, and he had a game

1272
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: in which he there was I can't remember, there was

1273
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: like a minute or something left and he's he's he's

1274
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: banging his time outs at certain point. I can't trying

1275
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: to remember how it went, But anyways, I asked him

1276
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: about it later on, and he explained a whole thing

1277
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: to me about timeouts when he should have taken him. Oh,

1278
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: I know this, I know that, And he was talking

1279
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: about the actual function of the game, and I know

1280
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: that it really sounds kind of dumb, like, oh so mad.

1281
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: Guess it's just the fact that they practice the game

1282
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: they're playing that clock playing the clock game, you know,

1283
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: the clock playing the clock game. Yeah, I mean I

1284
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't trust him, like what should I throw a slant? Right?

1285
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: But just managing that clock and making sure that it

1286
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: works for you. And look, you know we I know

1287
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: that here locally, there's been a lot of talk about

1288
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: this over the years, this kind of thing and kubiak

1289
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: era and even capers and all of it. Every NFL city, folks,

1290
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: every NFL city. I mean, Belichick himself in a Super

1291
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: Bowl failed to call time out in a super Bowl

1292
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: he ultimately won. Yeah, let's go to Bill O'Brien now

1293
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: as he meets with the media. We'll explay more later,

1294
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: but here's Bill O'Brien. Good, John, how you doing fine?

1295
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Now that you've had another week with the

1296
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: new receivers Cook's cob and including David Johnson, can you

1297
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: give us an update on how they're doing and what

1298
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: you expect from them a getting with Kansas City. Yeah,

1299
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: I think they're doing well. I think that. You know,

1300
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: it's an interesting time, John, you know, because of how training.

1301
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, like I said yesterday, we'd be getting ready

1302
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: for our third preseason game. You know, these guys were

1303
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: they were able to work out there in the offseason,

1304
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, but not really with us. So

1305
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: they're all on these different ramp up periods. Everybody's on

1306
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: track to be ready to go when the season starts,

1307
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: but you know, there's there's there's just different ramp ups.

1308
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to explain that. It's just

1309
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is relative to how

1310
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: we when we tested these guys and where they were

1311
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: at and what they needed from a you know, from

1312
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: a load standpoint. That's what we're doing. And I think

1313
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: all those guys have done a great job. They're really

1314
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: good pros. They they really understand what we're asking them

1315
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: to do, and it's been it's been good. I think

1316
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: you're muted. Hey, Aaron, Hey, when you look at Zach

1317
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Cunningham and the other top insideline backers from the NFL,

1318
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: what kind of makes this guy someone that is writing

1319
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: that category and as you guys look at him and

1320
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: evaluate him as someone that you know you possibly want

1321
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: to secure with a long term deal, what are your

1322
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on that generally just in terms of Zack in

1323
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: his future? Thank you? Yeah, No, we want Zach on

1324
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: our team. We want Zack to be a Texan for

1325
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: a long time, no doubt about it. Um he is. Uh,

1326
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: He's just a really good player. He's very instinctive, he's

1327
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: got good speed. You can do a lot of different

1328
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: things within He can do a lot of different things

1329
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: within our scheme, plays on special teams, on the punt team. Um.

1330
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 1: Really good guy. You know, same guy every day. Uh yeah, no, Uh,

1331
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: we we think that'd be great if he was with

1332
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: us for a long time. Mark Berman, Billy getting back

1333
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: to the receivers for a second. Now that you had

1334
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: to weave for a few days for a while now,

1335
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: like Rando and Brandon, those guys, what are some things

1336
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: that you've found out maybe that you didn't know that

1337
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: enhanced h What you think of them and how much

1338
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: they can help. Just the way they work, you know,

1339
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: they they put the time in every day they work,

1340
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: They come to work every day. They they're great guys

1341
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: in the locker room. They communicate well, they want to

1342
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: do They want to do what DeShawn needs them to

1343
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: do within the route. Um. They they're smart, they understand

1344
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: what we're what we're trying to do. They're good teammates.

1345
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: They're they're dts. They're dependable, tough, smart, and that's what's

1346
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: great about them. Well, how do you think of the

1347
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: lack of preseason games we'll affect waiver pickups and maybe

1348
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: the amount of trades that happened during cutdown period, just

1349
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: with teams not being able to see guys in other camps. Man,

1350
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I I you know, I think

1351
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: obviously it will affect um. You know, you just don't

1352
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: have the game tape. There's a lot of unknown you know,

1353
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: you don't you don't know where where exactly a guy is,

1354
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, relative to somebody that you know, maybe he's

1355
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: on the waiver wire or some other uh you know,

1356
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: way to acquire a player. You just there are a

1357
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns. I'm sure it will affect it. We study,

1358
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: We try to do the best job we can of

1359
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: of watching previous tape of the player and you know,

1360
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: understanding who the player is when the waiver wire comes

1361
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: out every day. But uh yeah, it's it, I believe

1362
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: for us. I just speak for myself, it's going to

1363
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. Christian Bill, it seems like

1364
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: you're um tight ends have been doing some good stuff

1365
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: in practice so far. What do you think about the

1366
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: talent you have there and what they can do for

1367
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: your team? Yeah, good players all a little bit different

1368
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: in their skill set. You know. Felzy he does a

1369
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: really good job in all phases. He can block, he

1370
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: can he's good in the passing game, really smart player. Um.

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01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Nakins had a really good day yesterday,

1372
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: and uh, you know with Jordan, is just all about consistency,

1373
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, just being consistent. He's a great guy, really good,

1374
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: really talented guy. Jordan Thomas has had a good training camp.

1375
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: He's he's come back in shape and uh doing some

1376
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: good things. And then Collie wearings. You know, look, he

1377
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: works hard, he's a good guy. He's still you know,

1378
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 1: he didn't last year, he didn't play, so you know

1379
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, a year where he really

1380
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: needs to take a step within the offense. I think

1381
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: he's doing better. He had a better day yesterday, so

1382
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: uh it's a it's a good position. Dylan Stapleton, the

1383
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: guy that we uh, the undrafted guy out of James Madison. Uh,

1384
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: he's been really really good, you know, tough guy, you know,

1385
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: learning the game, tries to do what we ask him

1386
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: to do so. I really think the position is a

1387
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: good one, Sarah Bill. What is it about the way

1388
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: that Deshaun learns that if he makes a mistake in practice,

1389
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: he doesn't generally make it again. Yeah, he's smart. I mean,

1390
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: he's got he's got a really uh, he's got a

1391
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: good memory. He understands what he sees. He's able to

1392
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: really communicate what he saw on the play, why he did,

1393
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: why he did that, you know, why he made that decision.

1394
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't make many mistakes. Um, but he's smart and

1395
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: he's got a he's got a an ability to really

1396
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: understand what he just saw and then be able to say, Okay,

1397
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: this is what I saw, this is why I did it,

1398
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: And you know that's you see that at night on

1399
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: the zoom calls too, you know, hey, this is he'll

1400
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: tell the offense, Hey, this is what I saw, this

1401
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: is why I did this, made this decision, and it's

1402
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: it's been good. Does that help you at all when

1403
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: you're on the sideline during games between series, trying to

1404
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: make a decision about the rest of the game, knowing

1405
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: that if he's seen it once, he's probably not gonna

1406
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: do it again. In that game. Yeah. No, I mean

1407
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 1: just the conversations on the sideline with him are always

1408
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,879
Speaker 1: good because he's very calm and he gives you exactly

1409
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: what he saw. He can recite each play like, hey,

1410
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: this is what I saw on the second and ten play,

1411
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: this is what I saw in the third and two play.

1412
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really like this play today. You know,

1413
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: we got to take this one out. You know, whatever

1414
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: it is, he's good at understanding what he just saw

1415
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: him being able to communicate it back to you between series.

1416
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: Great good. Hey Bill, Darren Fells the latest player to

1417
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: describe to as his faith and the extra measures that

1418
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: the organization is taken from a safety standpoint, and that

1419
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: really allowed him to have a great conversation with his

1420
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: wife to allow him to go ahead and play. How

1421
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: does it make you feel both as a coach and

1422
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: as a husband and a dad here and that kind

1423
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: of feedback and the step the organization is taken. Yeah,

1424
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it makes us all feel good. I mean

1425
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: I think that we spent a lot of time. I mean,

1426
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: Jack and I came back here on July fourth. We

1427
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: got the protocols the night of July three, and we

1428
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: and then there were other people in the organization, every

1429
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: everybody from our PR department to our training room, to

1430
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: our strength staff, to operations, to our cafeteria, to Susie Thomas,

1431
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: our council. Uh and then obviously the support of the mcnatis.

1432
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we made a lot of changes in the week.

1433
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have been inside at all,

1434
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: probably not. But when when you see it again, you'll,

1435
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: I think you'll say, WHOA, that's different, because you know,

1436
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: within a week or two, we changed locker rooms, we

1437
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: changed hallways, we uh the other the other person two

1438
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: people that have done an unbelievable job or Jeff Kaplan

1439
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: and Ray claricche H have really done a great job

1440
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: of of doing what you're talking about. And so when

1441
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: the players came back, I think that they were impressed

1442
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: and and they they you know, I think that's a

1443
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: big deal. That that that creates team belief. You know,

1444
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: team belief is a big is a big deal. So uh, yeah,

1445
01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: that that's good that Darren said that Kenny Um good

1446
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: morning coach m skill set of Brandon Cooks and Kenny Steels.

1447
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: Is there a possibility we will see will Fuller run

1448
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: more in the media routes this season, perhaps more so

1449
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: than we have in the past. Yeah, that's a good question.

1450
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think Will runs the whole route tree.

1451
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean he um. I know he's known for the

1452
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: deep shots, you know, because you know, he's really really

1453
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: good at those, and he's had connections with DeShawn over

1454
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: the years. But you know, he's a really good route runner.

1455
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: He can run the short stuff. He can we you know,

1456
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 1: we use them everywhere. We use him in the slot,

1457
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: we use them on the outside. You know, he can

1458
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: run twenty yard incuts and he can run you know,

1459
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: the twelve yards slam route. So you know, we we

1460
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: we use him in a lot of different ways and

1461
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: we'll continue to do that. Take two or three more

1462
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson. Yeah, do you expect he could see out

1463
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: there today and what's going on with Kiki? I think

1464
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: he'll be out there today. I just gave him a

1465
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: day off looking at a few things with him on

1466
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: the again, like it's taking time for me to get

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Speaker 1: and high speed and you know, you know how many

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Speaker 1: times did the guy reach nineteen miles an hour. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had a guy yesterday, Aj Moore, reached twenty one

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Speaker 1: miles an hour on a kickoff coverage, and so we

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Speaker 1: take those things into account. With Kiki, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: and then we'll bring him back today. He should be

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Speaker 1: out there today. Aaron Race. Oh, it's hobviously generally hard

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Speaker 1: for rookie wide receivers to make a big impact. But

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Speaker 1: what kind of specifically are the challenges Isaiah culture faces

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Speaker 1: heading into this year, just making the transition from FCF

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the big thing with Isaiah is

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Speaker 1: very talented. He's got good size, he can run, he

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Speaker 1: can catch, he's got all the tools that you need.

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Speaker 1: But but it's just totally different. I mean, you go

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Speaker 1: from playing at UM you know, Rhode Island to the

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Speaker 1: the coverages are different, obviously, the talent levels different. And

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Speaker 1: he's getting better though, he improves every day he works

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Speaker 1: at it, and so we'll see. But but I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the wide receiver position in this league. If you

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Speaker 1: go back through history rookies at the wide receiver position,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's tough. It's a tough transition. You know,

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Speaker 1: more press coverage, you know, much better corners, different, you know,

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Speaker 1: much different coverages. So it's hard, but he's working hard

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Speaker 1: every day to try to get better. Brandon co Chiefs

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Speaker 1: talked to us before about the soft tissue issue, soft

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Speaker 1: tissue injuries and trying to shield against those that seems

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Speaker 1: to be pretty consistent around the league. Could you think

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Speaker 1: deeper a little bit into that and how you guys

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Speaker 1: went about and what that was like for you guys

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Speaker 1: and in monitoring soft tissue injuries and why specifically that's important.

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Speaker 1: So when they came back, we we tested all of

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Speaker 1: of criteria, whether it was you know, just conditioning level

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Speaker 1: or hamstring strength or you know, whatever the test may entail,

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Speaker 1: and you know, quad strength or quad flexibility or you know,

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Speaker 1: all of those things, and then we made it the term.

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Speaker 1: Then we we got that information, Mike Eubanks, Roland, Lad Harris,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have a really good team that puts

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Speaker 1: all this information together we hired a guy from the

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Speaker 1: University of Texas named Matt Van Dyke. He's really good too,

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Speaker 1: new new guy, a lot of brain power in the room.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I just listen. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: quite obviously the dumbest guy in that room. So I

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Speaker 1: just listen and they give us information and then we

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Speaker 1: can now plan how we're going to practice these guys.

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Speaker 1: What's the plan for these guys, Because ultimately the health

1519
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Speaker 1: have a healthy team, any team, if you have a

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Speaker 1: healthy team, you've got a real shot. So you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot went into it, and then we implement the

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Speaker 1: plan for each player. So each player has a different

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Speaker 1: type of ramp up schedule and based on where they

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Speaker 1: were from that testing. And I think, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think there's been some things that have been adjusted over time,

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Speaker 1: but I do think we're on track. Last one for

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Speaker 1: John McClain, Well, yesterday Wade Phillips talked about Cooks, so

1529
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Speaker 1: he watched every day in practice the last two years,

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Speaker 1: and besides calling him a fabulous person, he said he's

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Speaker 1: probably the smartest receiver he's ever been around, and that's

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Speaker 1: why he can come into new system and half thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: He also said, besides the speed, he is a good

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Speaker 1: route runner. Do you think guys like Fuller and Cooks

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Speaker 1: who have great speed the route running often gets overlooked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you have the combination of

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you have the combination of really good

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Speaker 1: routes kind of like I was saying to Cody earlier,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good combination. You know. Sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: you have guys that are just you know, straight line

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Speaker 1: fast and they can run go routes and they can

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Speaker 1: run maybe poster out or whatever. But if you have

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Speaker 1: lot of different things, you can line them up in

1547
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Speaker 1: different places, you can match them up in different ways.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a good thing. And then the whole

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Speaker 1: key to all of it is the health. You know,

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Speaker 1: and you get good practice time with Deshaun and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know right now and believe we're on track there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Brandon, Brandon's a very bright guy. Randall Cobb's

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Speaker 1: Those guys, they're really bright guys that can run routes

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Speaker 1: and they can they can all run. Thanks Bill. All right,

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Speaker 1: popa lab do It. Texans Training Camp Live presented by expenity,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermay, John Harris with you and the team not

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Speaker 1: a Pats today they're sair Stretch Engine right now, music

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Speaker 1: playing at the Houston Methodist Training Center, and Johnny somethings

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Speaker 1: about the Shawn Watson observations from practice. Obviously, Watson is Watson,

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Speaker 1: He's on believable And I actually had a question from

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Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter, what's it gonna take to win the MVP.

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Speaker 1: I think it would take the top seed in the

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Speaker 1: AFC and Watson playing well to get it. I just

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Speaker 1: think it's it's that kind of race. Casey had a

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Speaker 1: two years ago Mahomes last year in Baltimore. Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: I think the same way. Are you? Do you share

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Speaker 1: that opinion? I absolutely do. I think it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough. Now, the only other way that it could

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Speaker 1: happen is if there's some situation in which I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he brings them from brings them backrom behind. They

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Speaker 1: get the two seed, you know, maybe the one seed

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Speaker 1: is I don't know, maybe the one scene is kind

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, but it's not the quarterback that drives

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Speaker 1: that team. But Deshaun gets his team to the two

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Speaker 1: or the three seed kind of you know, puts the

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Speaker 1: team on his back if you will. A few weeks

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Speaker 1: and maybe he gets it. But yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's got to be. They've got ten wins or more

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Speaker 1: and he is statistically dominant throughout the year, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think he's not only in that conversation. Yeah,

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01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: then I think it's a good chance to win. So

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Speaker 1: Watson is incredibly competitive. And will you indulge me? Can

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Speaker 1: I use this music analogy with you right now? I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go jazz. I'm gonna go Miles Davis quintet with

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Speaker 1: John Coltrane. Okay, this is this is old old school,

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Speaker 1: so it's so classic. Okay, you can go Miles Davis

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Speaker 1: anytime you want with me, you know, So if you

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Speaker 1: like jazz. There's this album called A Round Midnight with

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Speaker 1: the Miles Davis Quintet. You gotta. I mean, these guys

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Speaker 1: are unbelievable. They're like Jimmy Hendrix on the trumpet and

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Speaker 1: the saxophone, Davis and Coltrane. Anyway, they play a song

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Speaker 1: Bye Bye Blackbird, right, So in practice it's all they

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01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: want you to be, Bye Bye Blackbird by the notes, right.

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01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: They want you to do everything the way they have it.

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Speaker 1: How does Watson play the game? Yeah, he runs the plays,

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Speaker 1: but when things break down, or sometimes he might hold

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Speaker 1: the ball and wait for something to open. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna open. Now, I'm gonna bail. He's John Coltrane doing

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Speaker 1: a solo. Okay, he's Miles Davis improvising. He's an artist,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to be told of the artistic out

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Speaker 1: here because there's no real rush. There are times I

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Speaker 1: see him sort of like try to squeeze out of

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Speaker 1: the pocket and they might blow the whistle because that's

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Speaker 1: a sack. But it wouldn't be a sack with Watson necessarily.

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Speaker 1: It might be, but it wouldn't be necessarily because he,

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Speaker 1: you know how he is, he wants to kind of

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Speaker 1: crawl around the line of scrimmage and fire away to

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Speaker 1: make a big play for you or take it on

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Speaker 1: the ground. So I think that you can't get the

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Speaker 1: full Watson out here on the practice field. You can't

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Speaker 1: get the sense of who he really is now. I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously you can't. He's making great throws and everything

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Speaker 1: like that, but you don't see the total package out

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Speaker 1: here as opposed to some other quarterbacks. Who if you're

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Speaker 1: a pocket passer and you're just carving people up through

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Speaker 1: the air, well, that's what you're supposed to do in

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Speaker 1: the game, and you know it looks pretty good out

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Speaker 1: here on the practice field. What do you think. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, and I think that there's also a

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Speaker 1: certain degree of practice improvisation. Now. You can't strip everything

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Speaker 1: that he can do. I mean, it's just not him.

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01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Andy Reek can't do that with patching the homes, and

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Speaker 1: John Harwall can't do that with Lamar Jackson, with those

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks and Russell Wilson. I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks now you can't know exactly what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Wants the ball a stap. But there are some things

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Speaker 1: that you can incorporate into practice at some point, once

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Speaker 1: everybody is comfortable with what the game plan is going

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Speaker 1: to be or what the install is going to be

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Speaker 1: for that day, to be able to say, okay, this

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Speaker 1: is our special part of practice. We wouldn't be doing

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Speaker 1: this a Tom Brady was our quarterback or Dan Marinos

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Speaker 1: our quarterback. But it's something we have to do because

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is our quarterback and this team has worked

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Speaker 1: on scramble drills for for a long time, you know,

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Speaker 1: dating all the way back I don't know twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure Gary Fry worked on it a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but you just knew, was Matt that wasn't gonna improv

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Speaker 1: like that. But you know, but you know it's for

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Speaker 1: it is going to be improv So at some point

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Speaker 1: you need to practice at least have a few rules

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Speaker 1: around it, you know what I mean. When Coltrane will

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Speaker 1: go off on a solo, there still was some sort

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Speaker 1: of rule he was following. Even if he was just

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Speaker 1: off on his own riff, there's some sort of rules

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Speaker 1: he's followed. I think that's the chief is practices, so

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Speaker 1: that you guys do ask some rules such as up

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Speaker 1: Johnny might have dropped out a little a little bit here,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get it back on here in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I did not pay off the teas,

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Speaker 1: which is and it was a Baton switched teas. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in radio we tease something like after the break,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have this, and it teases you to hold

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Speaker 1: on through the break. And I said, a certain quarterback

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Speaker 1: of a certain Texans opponent is hurt. Now here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: It's Jared Stidham, and he's got something pretty minor, I guess,

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Speaker 1: but he's missing practice right And if you've heard, I'll

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Speaker 1: share this with you. The Patriots have been sharing first

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Speaker 1: team reps Cam Newton, Brian Hoyer, and Jared Stidham. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at right here, Johnny. I Baton

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Speaker 1: switched the teas. Yeah, going into the break. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely worth mentioning because I think it and who

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Speaker 1: knows how long Stidham is going to be hurt, but

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Speaker 1: it definitely gives Cam Newton the inside track. And I

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Speaker 1: gotta say this about Patriots practice. Obviously I'm not there,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure Hoyer looks fine, looks great in practice

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Speaker 1: because he's been there before. He knows that system. He's

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Speaker 1: probably doing all the right things, finding all the right receivers.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's Brian Hoyer, he can do that, He's

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Speaker 1: capable of that. But Cam Newton has that X factor,

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Speaker 1: that upside in that offense or at any offense, and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to work it all out. It's got to

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Speaker 1: be very interesting in New England right now. Oh, there's

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01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: no question. And also because of Cam, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you mentioned this. You know, there's so many different things

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Speaker 1: that you can do. Then I'm sure Josh McDaniels has

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Speaker 1: wanted to do over the years because they study college

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01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: programs as much as anybody, so they've watched Alabama turn

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Speaker 1: an offense that was just kind of strictly pro style

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Speaker 1: into one that features a ton of RPOs and a

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Speaker 1: lot of different RPOs and that was what two. It

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Speaker 1: took advantage of what's you know, those are things that

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Speaker 1: Cam can do as well. Because that thread of the

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Speaker 1: thread of the run, so you stick it into the

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Speaker 1: belly of a back man. There's so much in commanding that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure Josh McDaniels had some stuff that he

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Speaker 1: was sitting you know, on his on his um you know,

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Speaker 1: up on his shelf that he's like, hey, I could

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Speaker 1: do this with Cam Newton. I could do this. Um,

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Speaker 1: this would be kind of fun to have them run

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Speaker 1: this offense. But you know that's the thing. Week one.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea even if they named Cam

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Speaker 1: the starter? Yeah, you don't know. Are you totally convinced that, okay,

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Speaker 1: well they're gonna do this. Yeah, and they may come

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Speaker 1: out and run just all their you know, Earhart Perkins

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Speaker 1: stuff that they've been running for years. And then you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, having practiced hour after after hour,

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you a And we may have mentioned

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Speaker 1: this last night, but I was I was reading some

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Speaker 1: quotes and Eli Drinkwitz is taken over as the head

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Speaker 1: coach at Missouri and they asked him, as media want

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Speaker 1: to do, I want, w o nt not w ant

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Speaker 1: and they said, who's the starting quarback? When are you

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Speaker 1: gonna tell us starting quarter is? And he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not telling you, and they're like, oh okay. He goes, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is a competitive advantage for us. We've got to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of ye in that you have to force

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Speaker 1: and they play Alabama week one. I've got to force

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Speaker 1: Alabama to spend hour after hour after hour practicing things

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Speaker 1: that we may not even run. But if we eat

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Speaker 1: up their time during the week focused on one thing,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come out and do something else.

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Speaker 1: Because they've got two or three guys, a quarterback that, like,

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Speaker 1: you don't know, I think wants a transfer. One guy's

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Speaker 1: been there, Eli's new, you know, the whole thing. And

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Speaker 1: he he just came around and said it. He said

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Speaker 1: what coaches. I was glad he said it because you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully at that point media will understand. Look, if a

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Speaker 1: coach doesn't tell you, especially this year, if coach doesn't

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Speaker 1: tell you a certain quarterback is maybe it isn't just

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to tell the media. Maybe it's

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01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want the other team to listen to

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Speaker 1: that or see that and go, oh, okay, Joe Smith's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the Okay. They go back and they look

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01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: at the Juco film on Joe Smith, they go look

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01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: at the high school film on Joe Smith, and they

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Speaker 1: have an idea of what they're gonna run with Joe Smith.

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Speaker 1: Quar yeah, and they know your offense. I mean, they opened,

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Speaker 1: by the way with the Dolphins. The last regular season

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Speaker 1: game was Miami at New England in Foxborough and the

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Speaker 1: next regular season game is Miami at New England. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see that plays out. And at that, No, Miami's

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of Yeah, fitz he's missing practice,

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Speaker 1: he's missing practice. Yeah, So does that mean fitz he's

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Speaker 1: gonna find his way back or is he gonna be TOA?

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Speaker 1: And if it's TOA, so, I mean the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: going through it too. The Patriots are like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: gotta look at all the film I guarantee of this

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Speaker 1: soft season. Once the Dolphins drafted to A, Belichick went

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Speaker 1: to his staff and put a certain number of staff said,

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Speaker 1: I want to know everything that they ran in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I want to know everything that they ran at Alabama

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Speaker 1: with tah And then they had somebody else going, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to know what all they ran with the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins last year with this particular quarterback or with Fitzy.

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Speaker 1: We want to know all those things. And then they

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Speaker 1: merge together and come up with a game plan. But

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Speaker 1: that's what that's what Brian Flores is kind of. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate fitz he's not there. But now Flores can say, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who my starter is gonna now. They

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Speaker 1: got to prepare two different times and a lot more

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Speaker 1: for those two quarterbacks. One time on the road with Miami,

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Speaker 1: the walkthrough on Friday, which college teams doing opposing stadiums

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Speaker 1: and maybe won't do this year. I don't know. But

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Speaker 1: the walkthrough on Friday, the Canes offense started running the

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Speaker 1: wishbone in great detail. Now they can do this because

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Speaker 1: a bunch of kids who play in South Florida played

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Speaker 1: in wishbone offenses at the time, and they're just running

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Speaker 1: the wishbone and I thought, that's all. That's just devious.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Are they making the opponent think about that

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Speaker 1: But now I would say Arian, if you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: there we go. So we're gonna go with Arian Foster.

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Speaker 1: how that plays out. How about this, Johnny, the rookies

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Speaker 1: different answer. I think nationally, I think nationally people are

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Speaker 1: they had this running back group at twenty five, like

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I mean, if I didn't

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Speaker 1: read it was just a video to evaluate things with health,

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Speaker 1: Like with health, this is where they rank, and you

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Speaker 1: been pretty darn good. Yep, Red looks very interesting. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say that, all right, Landry, very interesting. Yeah, I'm

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