1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era, Tours, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Radio studios and Jay mart We've made it baby football 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: all weekend. Three preseason games still going on. Of course, 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: we had games on Thursday, we had games on Friday. 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: We had wall to wall football starting at about one 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: pm Eastern today. We've got two games tomorrow. Oh, it's 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: so good to have football back. My only complaint, by 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: the way, can we get a West coast ten pm 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Eastern seven pm Pacific kickoff so Tours and Martin have 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: something to watch into the wee hours. Other than that, 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: no complaints. J Martin, how you. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Doing doing well? Man? You're you're preaching tonight, no question 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: about that. It's just good to have football back. Yes, 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: it is fake football. Yes, these games student count, we 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: get all that. But at the same time, it's just 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: good to see helmets, dudes out there, throwing, dudes out there, running, 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: dudes out there catching it. Just Also, it's been just 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: stupid hot this summer, especially in Nashville. We had like 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: twenty eight straight days over ninety degrees, like insane heat 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: indexes around one ten. If you walked outside it was 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: so humid it was it's just been disgusting. Like so, 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: when I see helmets, you know what, I also think 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: of fun, cool breeze. Yeah. Yes, it's gonna be an 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: absolutely it's gonna be absolutely lovely to wake up on 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: a Saturday, pop on the games and then be able to, 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, go outside with the family and not swelter 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: to death or get attacked by these insane mosquitos that 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: we've also had to deal with all summer long. By 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: uh my youngest, her face looked like she has measles. 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, if we take her outside, because mosquitos just 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: apparently love her face. 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Is it true? There's a different type of blood that 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: more attracts mosquite to some people than others. I don't 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: know if you've ever heard that's. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: A good I don't know. I'm not I'm not the 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: scientist in my family. 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: It's okay, Well, if there is a scientist, you should ask. 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: So my wife swears she's like, I have sweet blood. 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, what does that mean. She's like, bugs are 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: more attracted to me. It's a known thing. And I'm like, 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: so okay, So I love my wife, and I don't 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: want to stereotype of generalize, but she's a she's an immigrant, 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: first first generation, and I don't say that in any 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: sort of disparaging way, but she, you know, comes from 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: a family of you know, kind of old school medicine, 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: old school this, you know, uh, take this thing that 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: I've never heard of for this particular you know, illness 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: or whatever. And so I don't know if that's one 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: of like the old school you know, great, is that true? 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: No, it's a myth. 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: It's a myth. Okay, well, I'm. 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Ai tells me. The idea of mosquitoes prefers sweet blood 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: is a myth. They are attracted to humans, but not 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: the sweetness of blood. It's a medical myth. 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll tell you what. I'm gonna let you 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: be the one to tell her that, because I don't 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: think that's really going to be a road that I 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: traveled down. 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Just fix it, Just say, hey, guess what, that's a myth. 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you're blood. 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Can you just tore down everything for me? I'm sorry, Mary, 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if your Mike was on Mary, but 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Mary saying as a first generation immigrant, everything that she 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: learned is No, it's like you have these old school 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: like family you know, like recipes or not not recipe, 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: but like way to deal with health issues that have 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: been passed down from centuries. And so this was one 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: of them that I had never heard when I met 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: my wife. But she's like, oh, yeah, no, I have 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: sweet blood. I just like you know, and especially this 73 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: time of year, Oh, I can't go outside. 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: You know. 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: The other thing too, is I just think she doesn't 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: like being outside like she. You know, I'm the type 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: of person like I could just sit on the porch 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: all night and just you know, drink a few beers 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: and sit by a fire. And that's not her. So 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: sometimes I think she just makes stuff up as an 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: excuse not to be out. But yeah, she's been telling 82 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: me for years she has sweet blood and that is 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: why bugs are more attracted to her. And I wouldn't understand. 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: I can't relate anyway. 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: You know. It was let me give you, Let me 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: give you one thing you can tell her, I like, 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: this will this will fix everything. Still, according to Axios, 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: mosquitoes probably don't think your blood's sweet, but they might 89 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: like your stink. 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I will tell her that. You know, I 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: have another thought on that, but nothing negative. She just 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: wears a lot of perfume. That's all I'm gonna say 93 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: is so that probably doesn't help in the pursuit of bugs. 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: She smells lovely all the time in case that was 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: the way that could have been perceived. But I don't 96 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: think the perfume helps. 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 98 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, speaking of sweet, no sweet, Watching George Sanders 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: chuck the ball all over the field on Friday night, 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: what a pivot. 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Mary. 102 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: We were all in front of the TV on Friday. 103 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: But here's how it sounded in Charlotte. 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: Shutor play fake looking in Zoe lofting back quarter of 105 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: the end zone. Bet it is put touchdown Cayden Davis 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: and Shador Sanders has his first career NFL touchdown. 107 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: That I believe was Panthers Radio Networks Shadoor Sanders, J 108 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: Mart Listen, you know we haven't been on air. We 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: haven't been on air since since the game, since Shador 110 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: was officially announced as the preseason Game one starter. But 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: you know he needed an opportunity. He takes advantage fourteen 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: to twenty three hundred and thirty eight yards two touchdowns, 113 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: I have a lot of takes. I happen to actually 114 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: be on air during this game with e from Slam yesterday. 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: America has heard plenty of my takes. So your reaction 116 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: to what we did see what we didn't see from 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders on on Friday. 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: Night, Well, I saw Kevin Stefanski say, you know, we're 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: gonna evaluate him. We look at him like everybody else, 120 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: which is fine, and I don't disagree. Just understand keV 121 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: that the rest of the country does doesn't see it 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: that way. The fact that you see that he's like 123 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: fourth on the chart in terms of who's getting reps 124 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: in practice and all this other stuff. My first thought 125 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: was why, And it had nothing to do with him 126 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: doing anything like this would have been had he not 127 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: played a game or not. It's just I don't really understand. 128 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: It's like, how many hoops do you want him to 129 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: jump through here? Because I still think he's going to 130 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: jump through them. You and I were much more bullish 131 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: on him than a lot where we were closer to 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: mel Kiper than we were seemingly everybody else that weekend. 133 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: We didn't quite understand what all was going on. And yeah, 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: we've heard some things since, but what we saw at Colorado, 135 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we saw in that game, at 136 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: least to some extent. Like, yes, I understands preseason. We're 137 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: going to have that discussion in a little while. But 138 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: at the same time, that's kind of what you wanted 139 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: to see, and it's kind of what you expected to 140 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: see from sheet where Sanders went out there. He's pretty 141 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: confident and he made some smart football plays, and that's 142 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of what we got used to seeing in college. 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: The narratives and all the other stuff that has surrounded 144 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: him over this last handful of months become irrelevant if 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: he goes out there and plays football and that's what 146 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: he's doing and he's getting his opportunity. However they've come about, however, 147 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: who's sitting out and whatever else. I still believe he's 148 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: going to be your guy sooner rather than later. Is 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: it going to be weak one, I don't know. I 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: think at one point we might have both thought it 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: could have been. But this whole like him fourth on 152 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: the chart and all this stuff, it's just going to 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: continue to grow. I think it might be a stair 154 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: step process. Maybe it is going to take a little 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: bit more time, but I just don't see a universe 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: where he's not going to be able to stand out 157 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: So let's dive into a couple of things. So one, yes, 159 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: so I agree with you, and I think bigger picture. 160 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: I think even bigger picture, the Browns are going to 161 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: probably Listen, I'm not a roster expert, but you know, 162 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: I think they're going to keep probably both him and 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel because like they have to. They Joe Flacco 164 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: is not an answer at forty years old. Deshaun Watson 165 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: is not the answer, even though he's clearly not healthy. 166 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: So at some point you do have to see what 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: you have in those guys. Now, as far as Friday 168 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: Night is concerned, a couple things. One, I know what 169 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: people say, fourteen to twenty three hundred and thirty eight 170 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: yards big deal, Like if you actually watch the game. 171 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: He looked poised, he looked confident. I understand that it 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: was the preseason. I understand that it was whatever. But 173 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: I think the counter is if he was twelve of 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: twenty eight with no touchdowns and two interceptions, then we'd 175 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: be talking about what an absolute disaster it is. And 176 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: so that I think is The first part is this 177 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: notion of like it means absolutely nothing. Well, that means 178 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing because because like I think a lot of 179 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: people just either want like the people that want to 180 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: see him succeed think it means something that people that 181 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: don't want to see him succeed want to tear down 182 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: what he did. I just sit there and say, though, 183 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: it does matter for a few reasons. One, if he 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: was an absolute disaster as a fifth round pick, fourth 185 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: on the depth chart, honestly, he might not get another chance. 186 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: And so one it matters because of that. Two, it 187 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: just matters because he did get a chance. Period. And 188 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: this is where a little bit of you know, the 189 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: backstory on working with Ephim last night. You know, Ephram 190 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: has a fascinating story himself, and I you know, people 191 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: could go back and listen to yesterday's odd Couple if 192 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: they want to hear it. But Ephraim was a seventh 193 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: round pick, and he told the story on air yesterday 194 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: of going into the going into training camp. I think 195 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: he was the fourth or fifth string, you know, one 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: of the tackles. There's a couple injuries, a couple guys 197 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: get cut, and it basically came down to his final 198 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: preseason game of you know, if you perform here, you're 199 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: gonna be our Week one starter, and if you don't, 200 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: you might not be on this team. And so I 201 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: just bring it up because roster spots are one and 202 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: lost in the preseason. If it didn't work out, and 203 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: if he looked bad, that would have been an easy 204 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: opportunity where if the Browns were looking for a reason 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: to get rid of him, they would have had the opportunity. 206 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: And I think most importantly two other quick things Jamarkus, 207 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: I know I'm going a long one. I think it's 208 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: it's enough where the Browns have to kind of see 209 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: where this thing goes, because again, they don't have anyone else. 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: It's not like if the I don't know, you know, 211 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: like the Jalen Milroe situation in Seattle. I know Jalen 212 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: Milroe was a second third round pick, not a fifth 213 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: round pick, but like you know it like he played 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: well enough where I think they have to keep seeing 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: what they have in him because they do not have 216 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: a legitimate better option long term big picture. Maybe he's 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: not the better answer long term big picture, but he 218 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: showed enough where he could be And I thinks and 219 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: I'll be quick because I know I'm going along here. 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: He's got good tape now, and that matters because if 221 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: for some reason the Browns decide that they don't like him, 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: or that they're not whatever, whatever the scenario is, he 223 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: showed that he's capable, and I think in theory he 224 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: would get another chance. But I don't think the Brown's 225 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: getting rid of it. So everyone that says it doesn't 226 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: matter it's only the preseason, it actually matters a lot. 227 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: Even if you know, I whatever, I've said enough, j Mart, 228 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: But I think there's there's a lot for you to 229 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: react to there. 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with virtually everything that you said, 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: and I agree with what he from Salam said to 232 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: to a point. Okay, I haven't gone and listened to it, 233 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go back after the show and listen 234 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: to it because I want to hear the story because 235 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: I have something similar in that My old broadcast partner, 236 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Ramon Foster, was undrafted coming out of Tennessee, and he 237 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: told us many many times about how every year he 238 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: felt like he had to go win his job again, 239 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: even though he was a starter for so many years 240 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, that every single year he always felt that way. 241 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: So you talk about e from Salam being a seventh 242 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: round draft pick, and we're talking about shud Or Sanders 243 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: who had that precipitous fall that we're probably going to 244 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: see in a documentary one day, just as an example. 245 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: So here's where I disagree in terms of the statement. 246 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: It's just that it can't be a blanket statement. Okay, 247 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: it's not that it doesn't matter at all. It's that 248 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: it depends on who you are and what your level 249 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: of job security is. What your level of security is there, 250 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: your point about the tape is perfect, Like that's exactly right. 251 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: If you are kind of on that borderline, then you 252 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: are trying to show other teams, hey, come pick me 253 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: up if they drop me, because they might right that 254 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: it might be a team that's just too stacked at 255 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: one position. But I got some talent I can come 256 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: help you out. So all those things matter. But ultimately, 257 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: what the preseason comes down to Erin is about seven 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: somewhere around seven spots that are still up for grabs, 259 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: and most of everything else is figured out. Like, yes, 260 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: maybe you can go up or down the depth chart, 261 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: but it can't be a blanket statement because if it 262 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: were important to everybody. If it didn't hold water, if 263 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: the idea that the preseason didn't matter didn't hold water 264 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: with any NFL player, then they would all participate in it. 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: And most of them don't because they're already pretty secure 266 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: in their jobs. But Ramon Foster, ephrom Salaam, even Shude 267 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: or Sanders because of where he was drafted, it's a 268 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: different story there, and they have a completely different mental 269 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: feeling about the preseason and just about football in general 270 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: because their road was so much different. So I think 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: that there's truth to be sure in what Ephraim is 272 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: saying and what my old broadcast partner had said to 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: me at many, many times about his experience in Pittsburgh. 274 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's true all the way 275 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: across the board. But certainly for those guys that are borderline, 276 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: those guys that might get cut and as you mentioned, 277 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: might be a starter or might be on the breadline 278 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: looking for another job somewhere in the NFL, Yes, the 279 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: preseason means absolutely everything. And you know that because if 280 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: you watch Hard Knocks, you're seeing intentionally a few of 281 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: those players, those guys that you're not sure, and they 282 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: give you a little bit of their personality, so maybe 283 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: you root for them, but you still don't know, And 284 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: so you're watching the preseason games with a little bit 285 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: more interest because their performance matters so much and locally 286 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: if you have a team, and I covering the Titans 287 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: as long as I did, you know, I saw this 288 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: every single year there would be two three guys, whether 289 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: they were draftees or guys that have been brought in 290 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: or walk the guys that had just kind of shown 291 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: up to the facility and been part of it all 292 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden like that would they would just kind 293 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: of capture the fan base and the van base would 294 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: get super excited about everything that they did and said, man, 295 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: he's got to make this team, Mason Kinsey, Man, he's 296 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: got to make this team. Just as one example of 297 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: these guys. And it's just like, no, that's not how 298 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: it works, and the preseason is not is not going 299 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: to be reflective of whether or not the this guy 300 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: is gonna make the team. But ultimately, yes, good tape 301 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and for a guy that is just right there on 302 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: that border like in it from Salaam, one hundred percent 303 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: agree with that. I just think you can't go so 304 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: far as to say the preseason matters across the board, 305 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: because clearly it doesn't. 306 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And all I'll say is, and I think this 307 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: is the benefit for Schador and this is something we 308 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: talked about dating back to draft night, is he is 309 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: in a spot where there is an opportunity for him. 310 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: There are, as you said, there's only a couple of 311 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: spots that are actually available every training camp. But he 312 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: is in a spot at a place, at a position 313 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: that if he thrives, he could in theory get one 314 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: of those final spots, you know. So like I'm just 315 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: looking as an example at last night's Atlanta Detroit box score, Okay, 316 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: And I want to bring it up because we know 317 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: the Atlanta quarterback situation maybe a little too well. Michael Pennix, 318 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. They also have, as de Seger called him 319 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: last night, former Chargers preseason quarterback Easton Stick. That is, 320 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: you know, basically a guy who's a good locker room guy. 321 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: He's been around forever. He's you know, been in the 322 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: league for about seven years now, great locker room guy. 323 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: Then they started a rookie, or they didn't start. They 324 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: played a rookie named Emery Jones, and I only bring 325 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: up Emery Jones because they already have three established quarterbacks 326 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: there and I know the Cousins situation is weird, but 327 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: it's like there's pretty much nothing Emery Jones can do 328 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: to find his way into one of those three spots 329 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: on the roster. And I don't know what that means 330 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: for the bigger picture of his career, but it's just 331 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: that's an example of like a spot where yeah, it's 332 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: all well and good and you know whatever, but no 333 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: matter what he does, he's probably not getting one of 334 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: those spots because to your point, Jamrt, there isn't a 335 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: spot at that position on that team, and so the 336 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: only thing with Shadoor is that there is opportunity on 337 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: that team at that specific position. And it kind of 338 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: put a bow on my thought on Shador is that again, 339 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: I think it's one of those situations where he could 340 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: have played himself out of the conversation proved that he 341 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: didn't deserve one of those roster spots. But in my opinion, 342 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: I know, the stats don't look overwhelming, but if you 343 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: watch the game, and I know you did, jam Mart, 344 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying for the public in general, the stats 345 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: don't look overwhelming, But I think he played well enough 346 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: where the Browns have to sit there and think there's 347 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: the potential that we have something, and they're going to 348 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: kind of continue to see exactly what they have over 349 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: the next couple weeks. 350 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't really have anything to add there. I 351 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: just I agree. I mean, I think that's exactly right, 352 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: and I think that the point that you made is 353 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: exactly accurate that in his position, he had the ability 354 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: to either sink or swim. Essentially, like, if you go 355 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: out there and your perform, then you're going to get 356 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: another shot. If you don't, you might just kind of 357 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: confirm some other things about you and then you just 358 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of fade off for a while and you aren't 359 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: talked about. This not only keeps him in the conversation, 360 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: but it kind of again starts to turn that narrative 361 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: back to the Shador that we were talking about a 362 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: year ago as opposed to the one we were talking 363 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: about four months ago. 364 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Shador Sanders, as we said, fourteen of twenty three 365 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: two touchdown passes in his debut. For what it's worth, again, 366 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: I know preseason is that everything, but the Browns do 367 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: get the win in Shudor sant the other thing to 368 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 2: j Martin really quick, and we'll get we'll come back, 369 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: we'll do some other stuff like e from brought this 370 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: up with such a good point. Only game of only 371 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: time I've ever seen fans in the stands with a 372 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: fifth rounders jersey, that's one, and it was in the 373 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: opposing venue, Like you know, I had the you know, 374 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: I was hosting in this moment, so you're not really 375 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: paying attention, like, oh, there's a lot of Shadore jerseys 376 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, the game is in Carolina and 377 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: people are wearing Shadoor Browns jersey. So it shows you 378 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: the impact that he has and it's show you know. 379 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: And I'll just say this will be a little bit 380 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: of a negative to kind of end this segment. But 381 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: this is why I think a lot of teams didn't 382 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: want to take him as the backup quarterback because they 383 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: know how popular he is, how famous he is, and 384 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot that comes with him. Good 385 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: news for the Cleveland Browns. So far, so good. Fox 386 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio erators, Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from 387 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. When we come back, we'll 388 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: look at some more quarterbacks making preseason debuts, Cam Moore, 389 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, a couple others. What does it mean? What 390 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: does it not mean? That's next? 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It was actually, and 416 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: if you were listening, makes sense, it was Brown's Radio Network. 417 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: That crew was very excited with Shdor Sanders. 418 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Define we sounded more home cooking than me. Yeah. 419 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably should have just used some common sense there, 420 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: but it was Brown's Radio Network there really quickly J Martin, 421 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, in addition to Schador Sanders, a couple guys 422 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: either making career debuts or debuts in new places, whatever, 423 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: just kind of want to rip through a couple just 424 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: kind of get your perspective and you know, share my 425 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: own of course on just what to expect, what everything 426 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: going into a season. Just some guys that play throughout 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: the day today. I do want to start in your hometown, Tennessee. 428 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: Titans were in Tampa. We did get one series of 429 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: cam Ward, a couple series cam Ward five of eight 430 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: passing sixty seven yards passing did lead a touchdown drive, 431 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: although it was not a touchdown pass. I'd just be curious, 432 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, you you live in Tennessee. The what's the 433 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: right what's the right word? The uh returns early. Everybody 434 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: seems to be happy with the band. I just want 435 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: what is the perspective? What? What is what is the 436 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: buzz around cam Ward right now? 437 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: In town? I don't listen to local media here anymore, 438 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: but I would say that my thoughts on cam Ward 439 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: are probably similar to most, which is, I can't tell 440 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: you how high I think his ceiling is. I'm not sure. 441 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm really not sure, but I don't think he is 442 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys where the floor is the core 443 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: of the earth, you know. Like, I think he's gonna 444 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: be pretty good. That's that's that's kind of just baseline. 445 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I know that's not that's sort of lukewarm. But at 446 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: the same time, I just I think he can play. 447 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Do I think he's gonna be all world? I really 448 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: I would probably say no, but I'm not one hundred 449 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: percent sure. We'll see, but I think he's going to 450 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: be better than serviceable, if that makes any sense. So 451 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get a lot at a five 452 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: of five of eight for sixty seven yards. He did 453 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: hit Calvin Ridley three times on that drive, and what 454 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: you have heard, at least what I've read, is that 455 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: he and Ridley have had a really good connection already, 456 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: and that's a positive for sure for him. But I mean, 457 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's terribly surprised if you watched his 458 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: act over the last couple of years. I just I 459 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: think he's a very competent football player that's going to 460 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: go in there and do some good things. I don't 461 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: know that we're watching Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, 462 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: somebody like that, and him being a number one pick, 463 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, you start to compare him against some of 464 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: those guys. That's unfair to do. I don't know how 465 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: good the football team around him is either. I think 466 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be better than they were last year, 467 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: but that's that's a low bar to clear. But at 468 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: the same time, I think that I think it's progress. 469 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I think it's better than what they had, and I 470 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: think that he is likely to, you know, make them 471 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: worth watching again, which they haven't been in a couple 472 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: of seasons. 473 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna actually ask you real quick. I 474 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: don't want to turn this into a Titan segment because 475 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: I do want to go to some other guys. But 476 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: I was just curious how bad exactly is the roster 477 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: around him. And I only bring it up because we 478 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: know that they just cut Traylon Burks, who was just 479 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: a first round pick a couple of years ago, and 480 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: they were obviously in position to get the number one 481 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: overall pick. Is it as bad as I think it is? 482 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: It's not good, Yeah, because number one overall pick, and 483 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, a guy on the tail end of a 484 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: rookie deal that in theory would be one of your 485 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: few bright young stars just got cut after an injury. 486 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: It just feels like it's not in a great place 487 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: right now. 488 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: So look, John Robinson when he lost his job as 489 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: a general manager, you know, there was definitely some handwringing 490 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: there and had to do with AJ Brown going to 491 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and just kind of a knee jerk reaction I 492 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: felt like from the front office. But at the same time, 493 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: what you mentioned is right, and Traylon Burke's who got cut, 494 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: he hadn't been able to stay healthy at any point 495 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: in his career, and you found out he was he 496 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: had some shape issues and some asthma issues back at Arkansas. Okay, 497 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: I think it was the year before Caleb Farley was 498 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick for the Tennessee Titans. Caleb Farley, 499 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: who had dealt with some serious injuries at Virginia Tech. 500 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Uh couldn't stay on the field. Uh couldn't stay on 501 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: the field in the NFL, and wasn't good when he 502 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: was there. So they blew multiple first round draft picks 503 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: in a row. The only reason I mentioned all that 504 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: is not to give you Tennessee Titans history, but to 505 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: explain they're playing from behind when it comes to roster construction. 506 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: They paid a lot of money for Bud DePree. He 507 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: played pretty well, but obviously that didn't end up moving 508 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: the needle for them. Overall. They used to have Deniko Watcher, 509 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: who I thought was really good next to Jeff Simmons. 510 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: They of course don't have him now they do have 511 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: some young guys, but you love, I mean, look at 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: what Mike Vrabel's done. He took Harold Landry, so Landry's 513 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 1: now in New England Patriot. So you look at all 514 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: of those factors and then you look at the rest 515 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: of that division, they're they're par for the course, right, 516 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean there there is, They're just there's just holes 517 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: everywhere that need to be filled, and you've got them 518 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: on both sides of the football. At the very least, 519 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: if you can find a quarterback that puts you in 520 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: the conversation again, and maybe they have, maybe they have. 521 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I think that the jury is out. But at the 522 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: same time, I'm more optimistic about that than you know, 523 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe some people nationally that haven't gotten to watch cam 524 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Ward at all or didn't pay attention to what he 525 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: did in college. But your take on it, I think 526 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: is accurate. It's not a I wouldn't say it's a 527 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: bear cupboard, but it's definitely one where if you had 528 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: to empty the dishwasher, you could fit them all in 529 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: that cupboard. Like you have plenty of room there, but 530 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: you might have three or four cups in there already. 531 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: Tell you what, I do want to get to some 532 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: other guys making their debuts this weekend in the preseason 533 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: before we do. Though, speaking of guys, speaking of preseason, 534 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: Steve de Sager coming straight from Sofi Stadium, you. 535 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 6: Know studio actually, but yes, that game you weren't at 536 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: the swim no tomorrow, at the stadium today in the studio, 537 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 6: so it's. 538 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: A fu drive. 539 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, now, I'm not impressed. I thought, 540 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, I thought you were shoving. I retract my compliment. Yeah, 541 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: I thought you were the one that ran over Ceede 542 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: Lamb on your way to the studio. I guess I 543 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: guess that that wasn't you. Okay, get to know. 544 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 6: Deserve a flag on that too. By the way, the 545 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 6: last of the night's preseason games has about a minute 546 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: to go. 547 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: In the Bay Area. 548 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 6: The Broncos were down nine to nothing after the first 549 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: quarter against the Niners. It's Denver thirty to nine right now. 550 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 6: Jared Stidham with two touchdown passes off the bench. We 551 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 6: do have three injuries to update. First off, the Rams 552 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 6: quarterback Matthew Stafford does not only is out for this 553 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 6: game tonight, he hasn't even practiced once in training camp 554 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 6: because of a bad back. The plan was to have 555 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 6: a workout earlier in the day, and his coach says 556 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 6: there were no limitations in that workout today and quote, 557 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 6: we're looking forward to progressing him back to practice on Monday. 558 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 6: He's had an aggravated disc in his back, keeping him 559 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: out of practice. Meanwhile, you may have seen the quarterback 560 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 6: injury for the much younger Anthony Richardson at the Colts 561 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 6: exhibition opener on Thursday. He took a sack and dislocated 562 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 6: his right pinky finger. He was participating in practice for 563 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: the Colts today, was able to grip and throw the 564 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 6: ball in the individual and team drills. According to the 565 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: Athletic and the greatest closer ever, Mariano Rivera was injured 566 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 6: today at the Yankees Old Timers game. They brought that 567 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 6: back for the first time since twenty nineteen, and Mariano 568 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 6: Rivera was playing defense, not on the mound short center field, 569 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 6: going after a flyball torn achilles at the age of 570 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 6: fifty five. He will have an operation within a week. Rivera, 571 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 6: as a player back in twenty twelve tour an acl 572 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 6: while shagging fly balls in batting practice. Well, we do 573 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 6: have two more NFL exhibitions Tomorrow, Miami at the Bears 574 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: one pm Eastern, and then the Chargers host New Orleans 575 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 6: four pm Eastern. That will be LA's quarterback Taylor Heineke 576 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: against Saints QB Spencer Rattler. The Jets did win thirty 577 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 6: to ten at Green Bay, justin fields at thirteen yard 578 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 6: touchdown run for the winners Arizona twenty to seventeen over 579 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 6: Kansas City, one pass thrown by Patrick Mahomes. It was 580 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: an early TV pass. Tampa Bay over Tennessee twenty nine 581 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 6: to seven in the first quarter. It was a yardage 582 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: advantage for the Bucks of one forty three to five. 583 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh won at Jacksonville thirty one twenty five, but for 584 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 6: the Jags, Cam Little booted a seventy yard field goal 585 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 6: to end the first half. No, it does not break 586 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: the record because it's an exhibition game. Rams over Dallas 587 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 6: thirty one to twenty one. Blake Korm with two short 588 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 6: touchdown runs. Minnesota beat Houston twenty to ten today. Jordan Addison, 589 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 6: facing suspension once the regular season gets going, had three 590 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: receptions today and the Giants won at Buffalo thirty four 591 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 6: to twenty five to Major League Baseball Shoheo Tani is 592 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: homered at Dodger Stadium tonight. It's his fortieth of the season, 593 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 6: and the Dodger lead is now nine to one over Toronto. 594 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: In the top of the eighth inning, LA's starting pitcher 595 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 6: Blake's now went five scoreless innings with ten strikeouts. At Seattle, 596 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 6: cal Rawley with his forty fourth homer. The Mariners lead 597 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: six to one over time Tampa Bay and the top 598 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 6: of the sixth the Padres had their closer on to 599 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 6: try and finish off Boston. The Red Sox have scored 600 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: on a ground rule double to tie the game four 601 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 6: to four in the top of the ninth. At San Diego, 602 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 6: the Cubs won nine to one. At Saint Louis, Milwaukee 603 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: beat the Mets with four runs in the seventh, seven 604 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: to four. Philadelphia won at Texas, beating Jacob de Grom 605 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 6: three to two, and then the Yankees today with the 606 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 6: solo homer bottom of the eighth edg in Houston five 607 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 6: to four. 608 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger. 609 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air towards 610 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 611 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: Great to have NFL football back. There's no other way 612 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: to put it, h j mart Do you want to 613 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: hit out a couple other guys that have made some 614 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: degree of debuts over the last couple of days. Be 615 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: it for a new team? Or whatever the situation may be. 616 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: And the situation in Minnesota is that JJ McCarthy making 617 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: his debut coming off of multiple knee surgeries a year ago. 618 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: Very limited playing time for JJ McCarthy overall, four of 619 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: seven passing thirty yards, so about four and a half 620 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: yards per completion. Kind of sounds like his Michigan career. 621 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's like if he played all four quarters. 622 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: Yes, but also like his Michigan career. They won in 623 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: a very Michigan twenty to ten final score. We're being 624 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 2: a little bit sarcastic here, but JJ McCarthy, you know, 625 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: he did our NFC North preview a few weeks ago. 626 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: I think we both had Minnesota going over their win total. 627 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: But JJ McCarthy, obviously, you know, because of the situation 628 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: he was in at Michigan, wasn't asked to do a lot. 629 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Because of that, It makes him a pseudo polarizing quarterback 630 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: prospect here as he begins the season as the starter, 631 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: What do you expect? What are you hoping to see fromhim? 632 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'm hoping to see good play from him. 633 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: I want to see as many good quarterbacks as we 634 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: can have in this league. I don't know what I 635 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: expect from him, because again, like what we saw at Michigan, 636 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: it was still kind of up in the air. I 637 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: wasn't sure what to make of him as a pro 638 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: prospect either, Like it seemed like everybody was high on him, 639 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: but I wasn't all that high on him. I wasn't 640 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: necessarily low. But it's just like, what are you basing 641 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: this on. You've seen a lot that I haven't seen 642 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to like high school footage or something, 643 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: because you didn't see all that he wasn't But it 644 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily that he couldn't do it. It's that he wasn't 645 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: asked to because that team was about Blake korum A 646 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: running the football and playing defense for Jim Harball. But 647 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: to his credit, when they did call upon McCarthy to 648 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: make some big plays, he seemed to make them almost 649 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: every single time. And so maybe he was a clutch 650 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: guy and it's just he was never fully unleashed, and 651 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: we can see that potentially in the pros. There's a 652 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: reason why the Vikings drafted him as high as they did. 653 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: It's the reason why they made the move that they did, 654 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and he goes to a team that I loved the 655 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: head coach, and there's a ton of great weapons around him, 656 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: so I think he has all that you would want 657 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to just a position to succeed on 658 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. So I don't know 659 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: what I expect, but we both went over and I 660 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: don't think either one of us would have done that 661 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: if we thought that McCarthy was gonna go out there 662 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: and stick up the joint. 663 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy again four of seven in his debut, and 664 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: I'll just put a bow on this by saying, I 665 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: tend to agree with you. Plenty of weapons around him, 666 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: great play caller. I'm a little hotter on JJ McCarthy. 667 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: I guess solely because again I think he gets discredited 668 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: for just winning at Michigan because of all the talent 669 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: around him, and it's like, I don't know, man, I 670 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: think he's going to be pretty good and it'll be 671 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: interesting in that division with a lot of just very young, 672 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: very interesting quarterbacks. Fox Sports Radio Air Towards Jason Martin 673 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up, 674 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: we'll look at a couple other quarterbacks make it debuts. 675 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: Some point. 676 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: We got to talk about a very interesting quote from 677 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: John Gruden today as well, maybe we do the groomers now, 678 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: We'll save the quarterbacks for later. John Gruden, you will 679 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: not believe what he said. That's next Fox Welcome back everybody. 680 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from 681 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. About twelve minutes from now, 682 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: jmart we'll talk about could college football use more of 683 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: a formal preseason? Just feels like there's just not a 684 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: lot of headlines in college football. But it was funny 685 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: because as I was getting ready for our show, I 686 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: heard Chris Plank, who was obviously hosting the show before 687 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: us with Jason mart Now with Jason Martin, you're with 688 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: me with artist expressive, it would have been a lot 689 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: of work for you. 690 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, it would have been impressive because I mean 691 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: like it would have been impressive for me. Yeah, because 692 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: I was reading a book and somehow hosting a radio 693 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: show at the same time. For the last half hour 694 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: before I went on. 695 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: Some would say you could have done a better job 696 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: than Arnie Spanner even while reading a book. But another 697 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: time I didn't say I'm just kidding, all right, so 698 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: real quick, but you know, It was funny because Plank says, yeah, 699 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: you know, a big story out of college or I 700 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: don't think he's a big but he said, you know, 701 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: interesting story out of college football today is like, where 702 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: could he be going with this? Well, I bring it 703 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: up because a very interesting piece of audio kind of 704 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: surfaced over the court on the Internet over the course 705 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: of the day. John Gruden, of course, former NFL not 706 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: only head coach but Super Bowl winning head coach, one 707 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: does now with just a lot of media with barstool 708 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: and has kind of his own show. But he's doing 709 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: like a tour of all these different all these different 710 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: training camps. At this time of the year. He was 711 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: speaking to Georgia Football. A clip surfaced from his show 712 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: talking to the Georgia football team, Mary before we play 713 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: a time before it plays down. Couple expletives. We have 714 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: edited them out, but you know, if there's children in 715 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: the car, just be warned. But here is what John 716 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: Gruden told the Georgia Bulldogs about him wanting to coaching 717 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: college football. The only reason I really came here is 718 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: I want to coach again. I'm being honest with you. 719 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: I do not belie either. 720 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: I want to coach again. I'd die to coach in 721 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: the SEC. I would love it. 722 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: I would love it. 723 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: I would die to coach in the SEC. I would 724 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: f ing love it. J Mart certainly made the rounds, 725 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: and I'll just be really quick. I'll say this. You 726 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: know the one school that everybody, I don't know everybody 727 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 2: linked to, but the school that certainly got the most interest, 728 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 2: Arkansas is almost certainly going to have a head coaching 729 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: opening this year. I'm pretty sure Gruden has some friendship 730 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 2: with John Daly, who is from Arkansas, but you don't 731 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 2: we don't have to talk Arkansas necessarily. But big picture, 732 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: are you buying or selling John Gruden SEC football coach 733 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: at one of our sixteen SEC schools. 734 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: I was the one who said, know when it seems 735 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: like half the state that I live in thought he 736 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: was going to Tennessee, right the original groomers were sending 737 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: him to Knoxville like that was the thing that was 738 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: going to happen. That I was just like, no, one, 739 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And two, why do you 740 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: want that to happen? I will say this, you got 741 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are getting out of college 742 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: sports when it comes to coaching because of the changes, 743 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: it would almost make sense for an NFL guy to 744 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: go the opposite direction because they're used to a different thing. 745 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: And when you look at Gruden, Gruden just wants to coach, period. 746 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 1: Like I think he made that point abruptly clear. And like, man, 747 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: let's say it was Arkansas. You got John cal Perry 748 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: and John Gruden. What I mean at that point, do 749 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: you move like seven or eight people from all the 750 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: major sports networks to the state of Arkansas just to 751 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: cover that on a day to day basis. I'm buying 752 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: it just from him being the personality that would fit 753 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean he would, he would fit, 754 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: he would do all those kinds of things, and he 755 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: would play those games properly. Now do I think that 756 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: that would translate the wins? I have absolutely no idea, 757 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: But I'm all for it. But for the entertainment value, 758 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: no question about that. I mean, why would you be 759 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: against it from an entertainment standpoint? 760 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: That is why I am so on board with it. One, 761 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: the guy's just entertaining as hell. And two it's like, listen, 762 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: you know Arkansas's coach named Sam Pittman. He's actually not 763 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: terrible all things considered, they won nine games in twenty 764 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: twenty one, They've been to a bowl game three in 765 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: the last four years. There's also zero juice. And you know, 766 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: I bet people listening didn't even realize they've been to 767 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: a bull game three the last four years because there 768 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: is literally no juice around that program at all. So 769 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: I would be into it just because I just think 770 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: it'd be fun for college football, and I am I 771 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: am in favor of schools that like, respectfully, we'll have 772 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: trouble competing at the top of this new year. Like 773 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 2: if it was Ohio State, I would say, yeah, I 774 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: don't know if Gruden's the guy. If it was Alabama, 775 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if Goruden's the guy, if it was LSU, 776 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: if it was USC But it's Arkansas, and it's like, 777 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: you got a coach that nobody I don't even think 778 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: anybody really likes, even at Arkansas. It's just like, why 779 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,479 Speaker 2: not go get John Gruden? What's the worst that can happen? 780 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: It doesn't work out, well, guess what, you could hire 781 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: a dude from the Sun Belt or the AAC and 782 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't work out either. So I'll be quick. We 783 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: don't have very much left in this hour. But that's 784 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 2: my take. Jmart entertainment value. It's Arkansas. I'd be totally 785 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: on board if it happened, even though you know it's 786 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: just internet chatter here on a Saturday in July. 787 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean at the same time, yeah, Arkansas 788 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: then becomes something you pay attention to in football. And look, 789 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman had that program going in the right direction 790 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago. It's kind of plateaued out at 791 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: that point in time. But like you bring in Gruden, 792 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: people are paying attention, they want to see it. Of course, 793 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: there's the other stuff with Gruden surrounding that, which would 794 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: cause a little bit of trouble, but I think you 795 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: could probably mitigate that if you're the SEC and just 796 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: keep on moving forward. I like say, I'm all for it, 797 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: just because I want college football to be as entertaining 798 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: and chaotic as it possibly can. And I can't imagine, 799 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, adding the powder keg of John Gruden into 800 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: the mix wouldn't make the SEC even more fascinating. 801 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick to Carolina, another NFL guy, maybe John Gruden, 802 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: who knows more college football coming up? Fox Sports Radio. 803 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio welcome in everybody. 804 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: Hour two tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio. We are 805 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Still two 806 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: hours to come. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show 807 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: follows us. If you missed any hour one, make sure 808 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: to download the podcast. We still got plenty more football 809 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: to talk. I think it's the first day, Jmart. I 810 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: think it's probably the first day since like February. I 811 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna have time for any basketball or baseball. 812 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Disagre's gonna have some great updates, but 813 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: you know you want those Luca Lebron hot takes, you're 814 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 2: gonna have to go somewhere else. All football for us US, Jamn, 815 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question about college football. Actually, yeah, 816 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: I got another question, but I actually do have one 817 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: legitimate question for you before we get to the actual 818 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: segment I have planned. I just saw a tweet of 819 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 2: the renovations at Vanderbilt's football stadium. Do people care about 820 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt football? 821 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: Like? 822 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 4: No? 823 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: Sarcasm? Go ahead? Good? Did you say no? 824 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean people in terms of like the vast majority? No? 825 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: Are there some that do? Yeah? Of course, my one 826 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: of my in laws, as a matter of fact, went 827 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt, So it does you know, it certainly matters 828 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: to some people. I know many people that went to 829 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: our friend Klay Travis went to Vanderbilt. But let me 830 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: tell you this, Clay Travis don't care about. 831 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: Van I'm gonna say probably not as well as you do. 832 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: You don't care about Vanderbilt football. 833 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, So I mean like that's that's that's kind 834 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: of where we are. It's it's something that is sort 835 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: of interesting. I'm like, Diego Papia made that kind of 836 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: fun last year, and I don't think anybody most people 837 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: were not. Unless you're a Tennessee fan, you're not really 838 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: rooting against Vanderbilt when it comes to football. It's just 839 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of like it's sort of like a novelty more 840 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: than anything else. But I think more than anything, it's 841 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: just kind of ambivalence, Like you could still drive right 842 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: where the stadium is and not run into traffic on 843 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: Saturdays for game day except from opposing teams fans, gotcha. 844 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: I ironically you might not remember. You probably don't remember this, 845 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: but I was actually supposed to be in Nashville the 846 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 2: weekend of Yeah Usama. Yeah, and we are friends that 847 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: we were meeting. Unfortunately, everything was fine, but that was 848 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: I think there was a hurricane that came through like 849 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: Georgia where they were living at the time. They were fine, 850 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: but kids were involved and they decided to cancel the trips. 851 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: So I was supposed to be in Nashville for that week. 852 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just saw some pictures. I thought you'd 853 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: be a good person to ask. But I do want 854 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: to get to a topic that I kind of just 855 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: threw out to you in the group, Chad and you know, 856 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: producer Brie and everybody, and that's this is that you know, 857 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: we did just talk a little bit about Gruden. So 858 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: Gruden gave us a little bit of a talking point 859 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: here on a Saturday. But it really struck me this week, 860 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: j mart is that I think of every sport in America, 861 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,959 Speaker 2: college football has by far the worst lead up two 862 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: a season of any major sport. Major League Baseball has 863 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: spring training, even college basketball, like and I know I'm 864 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a college basketball nerd. They now 865 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 2: allow good teams to play each other in exhibition season, 866 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: like Purdue is playing at Kentucky, Duke is playing at 867 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: Tennessee in the preseason, and yes it's niche, but at 868 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: least it gives fans something to get excited about a 869 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: week or two before the season. And it really struck 870 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: me this week one just looking for any piece of 871 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: tangible news as we were getting ready for this show. 872 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: There's really nothing out there. And then two also just 873 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: watching Hard Knocks and seeing I know it's not an 874 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: everyday occurrence, but basically fans are welcome to just come 875 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: watch the Bills practice a couple times a week. 876 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: And so. 877 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: I just think college football, as we get deeper into 878 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: this world where it is basically professional football on a 879 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: college campus, I think you owe it to the fans, 880 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: and I think you're doing yourself a disservice where yeah, 881 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: like listen, you and I are gonna talk about it 882 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 2: and think about it because we care. And certainly when 883 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: the game start that Week one, when Clemson's playing LSU 884 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 2: and Texas's playing, We're all gonna watch. I'm not saying 885 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: that I do feel like the sport does itself a disservice. 886 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: I do feel like, whether it's having fans more present 887 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: at you know, practices, whether it's more media availability, we 888 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: can even in a minute get into the idea of 889 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: preseason game. It's just like, I just think it has 890 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: the worst preseason. There's nothing to get the casual person 891 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: hyped about college football. It's just diehards like you and 892 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 2: I that are kind of scratching and clawing to find 893 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,919 Speaker 2: any piece of relevant news this time of year. 894 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. One thing that's 895 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of weird is it seems like you get less 896 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: access when you go further away from the pros. Like 897 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: I remember when I was calling high school games, and dude, 898 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: it was like trying to infiltrate the Pentagon to get 899 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: like coaches to actually sit down and talk about game 900 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: plans and talk about strategies and even tell you what 901 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: schemes that they were running things like that. And the 902 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: difference is like in the NFL, I can find that 903 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: stuff out in high school, it's not that easy. Like 904 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: I kind of am sort of at the mercy if 905 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm a broadcaster in that spot. I'm at the mercy 906 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: of that program to kind of help me understand and 907 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: fill in the gaps so that I can make that 908 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: And I used to say, look, I'm not trying to 909 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: sell sell your your plans to the opponent. I'm just 910 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 1: trying to make it make you sound decent on TV 911 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: because I I have nothing else to go on here. 912 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: But then, like in college, everything's more shrouded in secrecy. 913 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 1: And then you have like the NFL, where as you mentioned, 914 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: you got fans that are there getting autographs and spending 915 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: some time with the teams that are at least you know, 916 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe a third of the practice or something like that 917 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: are kind of open to them. But it seems like 918 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: there's much more there. It's like it's it seemed much 919 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: more as a product. I think that I can understand 920 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: to some degree like wanting to, you know, create a 921 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: bit of a boundary. But I also think that as 922 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: college football starts to feel and look and truly just 923 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: be much more just close to the pro game, now, 924 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: I think you can give more access because I think 925 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: that the sport fundamentally has changed, not in terms of 926 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: what's happening during the sixty minutes on the field, but 927 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: basically everything else surrounding the business of college football has 928 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: shifted to such a degree that you no longer have 929 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: to protect student athletes from the public or anything like that. Like, 930 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that now it's sort of it just feels antiquated. 931 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: It's basically daylight saving stom at this point, like you 932 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: could just kind of I think college football could step 933 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: into the new century. But I do think that the difference, 934 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: one of the only differences, is college football coaches in 935 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: the power that they used to have. They love the 936 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: idea of being able to control every variable, and I 937 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: think that that has shifted in the NIL area in 938 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: the NIL era to a degree that now now I 939 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: think that the floodgates are probably going to open to 940 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: some degree. 941 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: So that was exactly my thought is that one obviously 942 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: look in the NIL era, and I know that in 943 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 2: the schools can now pay the players, and it's supposed 944 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 2: to take the burden off of the fans. But let's 945 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: also be honest, schools are always going to find a 946 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 2: way to get more money to players. And so one, 947 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: you're just asking more of the fans financially, ticket prices 948 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: are up. I know a Tennessee where you live, that's 949 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 2: like a big talking point is they've raised prices significantly 950 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: the last year or two in this NIL era to 951 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: raise more money. Uh, whatever, One you're asking more from fans. Two, 952 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: I also just have less sympathy for the coaches too, right, 953 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, get paid eight million dollars a year, 954 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: seven million dollars year. This ain't you know nineteen eighty 955 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: four where you know you're getting paid whatever. Like the 956 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 2: point is you're getting paid a lot of money, and 957 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry if it's uncomfortable for you, Brian Kelly or 958 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart to give access to the program. I also 959 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: don't really care. You got eight million dollars. You know, 960 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: what do they say? You know, people that make thirty 961 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year thirty thousand dollars problems and eight 962 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: million dollars you have eight million. Well that's an eight 963 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: million dollars year problem. Oh my god. So many people 964 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: care about my team that I have to open up 965 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 2: practice a few times a week and do a little 966 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 2: bit more media availability. Like I'm sorry. If Andy Reid 967 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: can do it, and if Sean McVay can do it, 968 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 2: you can do it as well. Let me ask you 969 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: this because this was when I originally pitched this a 970 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: few you know, I've talked to a few people just 971 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: about this idea over the last couple of days. A 972 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: couple of people perceived it as I was pushing for 973 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: preseason in college football, and I'm not even necessarily doing that. 974 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 2: I think, to me, it's more about the media access 975 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: and it's more about the fan access more than anything. 976 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: But I will ask you, like, what do you think 977 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: about the idea of allowing say, a preseason game, And 978 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: people would say. The two pushbacks I've heard is you know, well, 979 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: you don't want to get anybody hurt. It's like, well, 980 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: guess what, neither do NFL teams. They don't play starters. 981 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: The other thing that I've heard is well, you don't 982 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: want to play anybody because you're trying to high players 983 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: kind of in this transfer portal era where players can leave. 984 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: And my argument to that would be, dude, you're playing 985 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: in August for December, January, February, whatever. It's like the possibility. One, 986 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 2: these are players that might have to play in games anyway, 987 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: So it's like, what are you gonna do hide somebody 988 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: if the third string got you know, if the third 989 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: string player needs to play. But two, it's also four 990 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 2: or five months out. Like I said, college basketball has 991 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 2: televised exhibition games now, So I don't buy the portal thing, 992 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 2: But would you care? Do you think it would be 993 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 2: any added benefit if say Georgia was hosting some random 994 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 2: team today even if their starters weren't playing, or do 995 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: you think that's kind of an no en void. 996 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd have to see it. I'm not 997 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: like I don't have like a gag reflex when it 998 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: comes to like I just ate mayonnaise. I may have 999 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: just spoiled that for people out there, but I can't 1000 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: stand Mayna's, So now you know something new about me. 1001 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: I can't be around it. Like if I'm in the 1002 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: room and I smell it, got to go. So it's 1003 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: not like that, like I don't hear your idea and 1004 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: immediately recoil and feel like I have to leave. But 1005 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: I'd have to see how it actually looked, and i'd 1006 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: have to see how the teams approached it. I think 1007 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: if nothing else, opening up practice to at least maybe 1008 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: once a week or something like that just kind of 1009 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: be more accommodating and just kind of open door when 1010 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: it comes to just giving a little bit of accessibility 1011 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: to these fans that you're asking to pay more and 1012 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: more and more while you are raking in all these 1013 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: TV dollars and everything else like that, it doesn't have 1014 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: to be You're on this giant mountaintop and everybody else 1015 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: is looking at you from the bottom, just hoping that 1016 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe they can catch a glimpse. I think that you 1017 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: can actually treat it a bit more like an entertainment 1018 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: product at this point, because there's no longer this I 1019 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: don't know even what you would call it, but the 1020 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: charade that all this was about academics when we've known 1021 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: for a very long time that it is not. 1022 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would put a bow on it by saying 1023 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: I actually I actually agree with all of it. Is 1024 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 2: when I kind of have been thinking about this, My 1025 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: first thought wasn't preseason games and don't I don't really 1026 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: know that it would be an additive just because the 1027 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 2: chances that you would see meaningful players is next to none, 1028 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 2: almost like old school spring games that are now another 1029 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,439 Speaker 2: thing of the past because of the transfer portal. So yeah, 1030 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 2: I just like I said, I think college football as 1031 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: a collective needs to do better to get casual people 1032 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 2: interested in their sport. And I think that's one thing. 1033 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 2: You know, the NFL has a fifty year head start 1034 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 2: on this, but we all know the NFL does an 1035 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 2: amazing job of keeping people engaged in the offseason, be 1036 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 2: it free agency, be at the draft, be it whatever. 1037 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: College football hasn't really figured out that part of it 1038 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 2: yet where it feels like, yeah, the portal you kind 1039 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 2: of care about a little bit if you're a fan, 1040 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 2: right yeah, But you get past like the middle of January, 1041 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: you're not really thinking about college football right up until 1042 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: week one, or at least week zero, which, by the way, 1043 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: two weekends from now, jmart one weekend left without college football, 1044 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 2: So at least that's a little bit of a saving 1045 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 2: grace is we do get week zero two saturdays from now, 1046 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: Week one three saturdays from now. Fox Sports Radio erators 1047 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: Jayson Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, 1048 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: should mention with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us 1049 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: wherever you happen to be. Catch us and all your 1050 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: favorite Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven 1051 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox 1052 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 2: Sports Radio in the app to stream us live all day, 1053 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: every day, and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio 1054 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: as one of your presets in the iHeartRadio app so 1055 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: it always pops up at the top of your screen. 1056 00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: Coming up, we will continue our preseason look at all 1057 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: eight NFL divisions. I'll say this NFC South intriguing because 1058 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 2: it's pretty wide open. We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio. 1059 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1060 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1061 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 1062 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 4: listen live. 1063 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio air Torres Jason Martin 1064 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So the 1065 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 2: last three weeks we have begun our division by division 1066 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 2: over under win total previews we have done so far, 1067 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: the NFC East, the NFC North, the NFC West. We 1068 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: are tallying them. We will monitor them at the end 1069 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: of the year. And things worked out perfectly because today 1070 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 2: is the NFC South. 1071 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: Ah. 1072 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, we have our Fox Sports Radio NFC South, 1073 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 2: the insider bre the only Saints fan I know, and 1074 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're picking up a lot of Bandwagon 1075 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: fans here anytime in the near future. So I'll tell 1076 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 2: you what, Mary, give us a little music, put us 1077 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 2: in the mood. Bre NFC South, tell us who we're 1078 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 2: starting with. 1079 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 7: Alrighty, guys, We're gonna start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1080 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 7: over under nine and a half wins. 1081 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 8: J Mart, you are up? 1082 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, I mean they beat the Tennessee Titans 1083 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: in preseason action. Are you going today? Don't know what 1084 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: that tells you, But if you're someone that wants to 1085 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: try to read tea leaves, then good for you. I'm 1086 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: just looking at the schedule generally, so it's kind of 1087 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 1: it's manageable. I mean, you play Philadelphia, you go to Seattle, 1088 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: which is never easy, road game against the Lions, road 1089 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: game against the Bills. You play the Rams on the 1090 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: road as well. Yeah, so those are pretty difficult nine 1091 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: and a half. I like Baker Mayfield. I like the Buccaneers. 1092 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: I still think that vision is weak and they should 1093 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: be able to dominate it. Man, I think that's probably 1094 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: right on the money. I think I'll go over. I 1095 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: think they can win ten games there, if by no 1096 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: other reason than default, because the division is still just 1097 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: not very good. 1098 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 2: The division is not good. I'm actually gonna go under 1099 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 2: on this one, and it's not like a hard under, 1100 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 2: like you said, I think that the number is about right. 1101 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 2: Two years ago they won the division at nine and eight. 1102 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 2: It would not shock me if they did the same. 1103 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, Jamar, I was thinking about this. I think 1104 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: it's easy to forget remember that weird Todd Bowles Liam 1105 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 2: Cohen thing like when Liam Yeah, for people to forget 1106 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 2: like so, Liam Cohen is of course the new Jacksonville 1107 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 2: Jaguars head coach, and there was like a thing where 1108 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 2: he was gonna leave Tampa and then Tampa basically tried 1109 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: to force out Todd Bowles to keep them, but they 1110 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 2: didn't want to force out Todd Bowles. Well, I bring 1111 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 2: it up because Todd Bowles is back. They have a 1112 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 2: first time offensive coordinator, and like you said, the schedule 1113 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 2: is certainly because of the division, not brutal, but you 1114 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: do still have a four week stretch Eagles forty nine 1115 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 2: ers at Lions, and then later out of the year 1116 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 2: you still have Buffalo and the La Rams. So again, 1117 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: it's not a hard under of they're winning five games, 1118 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: they're winning six games, but I'll say nine to eight 1119 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 2: and under still might be good enough to win the division. Bree, 1120 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 2: who we got next? 1121 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 7: We have the Atlanta Falcons over under seven and a 1122 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 7: half tour as you're up. 1123 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 2: No, Jamin, I'm gonna go over weird last year with 1124 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennix. And I'll be honest, you know, 1125 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: going back in hindsight and looking at this, Michael Pennix 1126 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 2: didn't really, frankly, play as much as I thought he did, 1127 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 2: and they weren't as successful when he was in as 1128 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: I seemed to remember them being. They went basically one 1129 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: and two with him as a starter. I know the 1130 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 2: vibes are weird, but there is a reason that he 1131 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 2: took that they took early. There is a there is 1132 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 2: so much talent on the offensive side of the ball, 1133 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: and they just need to be a little bit better defensively. 1134 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 2: Twenty third in the NFL in scoring defense and total defense. 1135 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 2: I think in this division they can find the wins. 1136 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: You said seven and a half free, right, Yes, that 1137 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: is correct. So I'm gonna go just a little bit over. 1138 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: I think they're right in that eight to nine win 1139 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 2: range for the NFL. 1140 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's what they were last year. They were eight 1141 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: to nine last year. I'm gonna go over as well. 1142 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,919 Speaker 1: And so I'm taking a look at the bye week 1143 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: as one of my reasonings for this, because they have 1144 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: a stretch where they play against Washington, Buffalo, and San 1145 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: Francisco back to back to back, but between Washington and Buffalo, 1146 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: they're off a week. So you look at it there 1147 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, so you're able to get yourself 1148 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: right after you host Washington, you host Buffalo. So I'm 1149 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: looking at the games that they're playing on the road, 1150 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm not like totally like going to the Jets going 1151 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: to Arizona Minnesota. That won't be easy. But to your point, 1152 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the of the division, I think they're 1153 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna go over as well. I don't think that they're 1154 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: going to be a double digit win team, but just 1155 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: looking at this schedule, I feel like it's entirely manageable 1156 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: for them, So I'll go over also. 1157 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 2: So two teams down, Jmart has the under of the 1158 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: over of nine and a half. In Tampa, I have 1159 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 2: the under. We both have the over of seven and 1160 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 2: a half with the Atlanta Falcons. Tell you what will 1161 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 2: come back. We will hit on the other two teams 1162 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 2: in this division, including Brie Moro's New Orleans Saints. We 1163 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: might have to get a little funeral music for that one, 1164 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 2: more than NFL music. But before we get to the Saints, 1165 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: before we get to the Panthers, let's get it over 1166 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: to the news desk Steve di Seger, what is trending? 1167 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 6: We have one Laid Bowl game still going at Seattle 1168 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 6: Mariners seven to four over Tampa Bay. Bottom of the eighth. 1169 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 6: Seattle's JP Crawford did having a bet with seventeen pitches 1170 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 6: before he popped out cal Rawley with his forty fourth 1171 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 6: home run of the season. Everything else is final, including 1172 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 6: a San Diego win at home in ten innings over Boston. 1173 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 6: The Dodgers at home defeated Toronto tonight nine to one, 1174 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 6: show Hey Otani hit his fortieth homer. The Yankees ed 1175 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 6: s Houston today five to four on a solo homer. 1176 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 6: Bottom of the eighth Cubs won nine to one at 1177 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 6: Saint Louis. Milwaukee beat the Mets with four runs in 1178 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 6: the seventh, seven to four. Philadelphia was a three to 1179 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 6: two winner at Texas, beating Jacob de grom As for 1180 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 6: the NFL preseason. The game at Jacksonville saw Cam Little 1181 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 6: of the Jags kick a seventy yard field goal to 1182 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 6: end the first half. Pittsburgh won the exhibition thirty one 1183 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 6: twenty five Jets thirty to ten winners at Green Bay 1184 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 6: and Denver was down nine to nothing early, but won 1185 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 6: thirty to nine at San Francisco. Wins for the Giants 1186 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 6: and Minnesota Today Hall of Fame closer Mariano Rivera tore 1187 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 6: and Achilles in the Yankees Old Timers game WNBA two 1188 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 6: games Golden State and Indiana the winners. We had Indiana 1189 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 6: against Chicago, which would normally be some sort of big deal. 1190 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 6: Chicago eight and twenty three this year, lost by twenty 1191 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 6: two points. In Angel Reese is still out. She's missed 1192 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 6: eight of the last ten games with a bad back. 1193 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark of the Fever has missed ten straight games 1194 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 6: and has no timetable for return due to a groin injury. 1195 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 6: Last night, Dallas star Page Beckers was out with a 1196 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 6: bad back. New York star Breanna Stewart isn't due to 1197 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 6: return till late August due to a bone bruise in 1198 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 6: her knee, and Minnesota All Star and a Fista Collier 1199 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 6: is missing at least a couple weeks with a springed ankle. 1200 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 6: A reminder, just three races left in the IndyCar season. 1201 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 6: The next event is Sunday in Portland, Oregon on Fox TV. Again. 1202 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 6: And I did see this quote as you guys Talk 1203 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 6: College Football from Paul fine Bomb, saying, I am so 1204 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 6: sick and tired of being harassed by Big ten fans 1205 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 6: on our show. They act like they invented football. And 1206 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 6: when it came to the readers add context on Twitter, 1207 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 6: someone just one sentence, college football was invented at Rutgers University. 1208 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 2: There you go back to ride to the. 1209 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Big ten scoreboard. 1210 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Fine Bomb, By the way, this might be a little 1211 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 2: mean spirited to say you're just ran through all the 1212 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 2: WNBA players that aren't available. Pay us what you owe us? 1213 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Is the league. 1214 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 2: Available forty four game regular season? No one could get 1215 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 2: through with that. Yeah, Yo, Like we criticize all these 1216 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 2: NBA players, and I understand these are legitimate injuries. I'm 1217 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 2: not trying to be yes they are. I'm just saying, 1218 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, forty four you get paid, you know, 1219 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars for forty four games. 1220 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 6: It's just the timing could not be worse because there's 1221 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 6: a window for you to make a mark in that league. 1222 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 6: That's probably and that window is closing this week. 1223 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 2: That's probably the angle that I should have taken, rather 1224 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 2: than just blaming players for getting injury, which I was 1225 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,959 Speaker 2: not doing, but it probably came off. Athletes still get hurt, 1226 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: they do, and these are legitimate injuries. 1227 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: So thanks asking you a question that this isn't about WNBA. 1228 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna let you. 1229 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: If you kick a seventy yard field goal in an 1230 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: exhibition game, that doesn't count. Coach got to let you 1231 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: do that in a regular season once. 1232 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Right, yes scenario. 1233 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. Do you remember when Sebastian Janikowski lined up from 1234 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 6: seventy six at the. 1235 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: End of a baby Yes, that was just dumb. 1236 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,919 Speaker 6: No, it was just for the no, you don't say. 1237 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 6: I was at a game where Jason Hansen in college 1238 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 6: they lined up from seventy because he had quite the leg, 1239 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 6: of course in a long NFL career too, and he 1240 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 6: overkicked it and it just went end over end, bouncing 1241 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 6: down the twenty, down the fifteen, the ten. It was 1242 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 6: like when they announced, you know, when the squirrel gets 1243 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 6: on the field and he just it just there was 1244 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 6: nothing in the air. It was just scooting along the ground. 1245 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 6: I wish you got a better. 1246 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Chance fall on the cart path because. 1247 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, anyone in this building when they when they 1248 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 6: hit a. 1249 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Golf ball, Yeah, yeah, that is interesting that in theory, 1250 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: they probably have to give him a shot. 1251 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Got to do it once. Like, if I'm a fan, 1252 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm demanding it on Sports Talk on. 1253 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 6: Monday, especially because let's happened one Some stadiums are much 1254 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 6: better to kick in than others in this league. Go 1255 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 6: to Denver kick even where the Rams played tonight. I mean, 1256 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 6: it's it's not a grass field, it's got a canopy 1257 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 6: over it, it's fairly weather controlled for an outdoor stadium. 1258 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 6: It's a good kicking stadium. 1259 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, except for the National Championship game 1260 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 2: when me and Dan Byer were getting poured on Georgia 1261 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 2: TCU such at least you saw a barn. It's not. 1262 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 6: It's that's why you can't call it a dome. Stadiums. 1263 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 6: There's a opening above each end zone and it was 1264 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 6: raining sideways that night and people had to move seats. 1265 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 2: And it was literally only on the TCU section. It 1266 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 2: was just such a metaphor for the game. 1267 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 6: It was appropriate. It was like that one cartoon character 1268 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 6: that just walks around and always rammed down. 1269 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: There was just a dark cloud over the all right, 1270 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 2: speaking of dark cloud, let's get back to the rest 1271 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 2: of the NFC South Out, Shark Cloud, over, the Panthers 1272 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 2: and the Saints. Mary give us some music. Pre who 1273 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 2: we talking about next? 1274 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 7: We're gonna start with the Carolina Panthers over under six 1275 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 7: and a half. 1276 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 8: GRT, you're up, man. 1277 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I really want to say over because I really like 1278 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, but I'm gonna go under. I've heard some 1279 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: good things about their rookie wide out. It looks like 1280 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: him and Bryce Young have had some decent chemistry and practice. 1281 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: But somebody's got to be really bad in this league, 1282 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like this is my best bet to 1283 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: be right about a team winning four games or so 1284 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: out of that division. There's just there's nothing about that 1285 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: team that just makes me feel particularly strong about them. 1286 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: I hope they proved me wrong. Quite frankly, again, I 1287 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, and I would hate I'd like to 1288 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: see his career have a really nice turnaround. I just 1289 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: don't sense it, man, So I'm going under. 1290 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: So was a number brief five and a half and 1291 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 2: six and a half. That is a lot seven wins. 1292 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. So, like I remember us all being like, oh, 1293 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 2: Bryce Young kind of figure it out, you know, got benched, 1294 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 2: kind of figured it out. Okay, whatever, going back and 1295 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 2: looking final month of the season. Okay, you lose to Case, 1296 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 2: no shame that, lose to Tampa, lose to Philly, lose 1297 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 2: to Dallas when they didn't have a quarterback and their 1298 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 2: coaches on the hot seat. They did beat Arizona and 1299 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Atlanta in two of the final three weeks. It's like 1300 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I thought it ended a little bit better than that. 1301 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 2: So let's just look at the schedule really quick. Open 1302 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: at Jacksonville, at Arizona, Falcons at home at New England. 1303 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 2: So one three or first four on the road, you 1304 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: gotta travel cross country in that span. Schedule is pretty. 1305 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Much it's not that hard. It's not that hard. 1306 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 2: Got the NFC West, so you got at carol or 1307 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 2: at San Francisco, Rams at home. You have the AFC East, 1308 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 2: so you have the Bills and the Patriots. I still 1309 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 2: gotta go under. Seven wins is a lot, I. 1310 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Mean, it's that number is big to me. 1311 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of wins. So I will go 1312 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 2: under seven wins for the Carolina Panthers. Like you said, 1313 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 2: hope we're wrong, like price under with the Price Young. 1314 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 2: We'll see how Tetuo McMillan does. But yeah, I can't. 1315 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 2: I can't get to seven wins on that team. I 1316 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 2: just can't breathe. What's our do we do it? 1317 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Bring? 1318 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 8: I think we're done? 1319 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Were no time left? Oh wait, actually we do. We 1320 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: have seven. 1321 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 8: Minutes the New Orleans Eights. 1322 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: We're going to. 1323 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 2: Six, Mary, I was gonna ask me. I didn't even have. 1324 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 7: To, Oh wow, I have the New Orleans Saints over 1325 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 7: under a sixth and a half Torres take it away. 1326 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Well, I told you chucking job is alive in the 1327 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: big easy. 1328 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 2: I told so two things. 1329 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Really, we should be playing second live music right now. 1330 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I was. So. 1331 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 2: We were on last night during the Shador thing, and 1332 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 2: we got a call from New Orleans and he was 1333 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: just like, I was hoping we were gonna take it 1334 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 2: with our first pick. 1335 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Don't you don't say? Then? 1336 01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 2: I was hoping we were taking it with the second pick. 1337 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, Well, the good news is you 1338 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 2: got the quarterback that played seven years of college football 1339 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 2: and had one good season so young. That's not Tyler 1340 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 2: Chuck bro. 1341 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 1: You took Do you want to make HI feel even worse? 1342 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: They took seven draft picks, at which point they and 1343 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: all of those they could have taken shudeor Sanders. 1344 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 2: That's true. There's no rule that says you can only 1345 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: take one quarterback as the Cleveland Browns exactly. Yeah. So 1346 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 2: the only thing I will say, what did you say 1347 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 2: five and a half? 1348 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 8: No, six and a half? 1349 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Six and a half? 1350 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: The only they're both they're both a one point five 1351 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: higher than they finished last year. Them and the Panthers 1352 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: were both five and twelve teams last year was six 1353 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: and a half is the number for both of them. 1354 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm clearly going under. The only thing I will say, 1355 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm kind of intrigued Kellen Moore offensive coordinator. Now, I 1356 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 2: don't think he has anything resembled not offensive cornering. He's 1357 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 2: the head coach, he. 1358 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Got to coordinate. But that's yeah, right. 1359 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly it is that I was bree If Dennis 1360 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 2: Allen was still the head coach, it might be the 1361 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 2: most unwatchable team in NFL history. The problem is, like, 1362 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 2: it's so interesting because and I'm not being sarcastic, there's 1363 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 2: just not one thing that I'm interested in about this team. 1364 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: It's not I mean, there's a lot of quarterbacks that 1365 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,640 Speaker 2: we don't even know if they're good or not, but 1366 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 2: they're interesting. Caleb Williams. I think Bryce Young this is 1367 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: kind of make a break, you know, you go, Michael Pennix, 1368 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,560 Speaker 2: you go on and on down the list, Shadoor Sanders, 1369 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 2: maybe whatever. I don't want to watch Tyler Shuck. It's 1370 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 2: not like they have these unbelievable skill position guys. I 1371 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 2: know I know who is on the roster, but it's 1372 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 2: nobody that like I haven't seen or don't know what 1373 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 2: to expect or whatever. There's just nothing there. I'm obviously 1374 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,599 Speaker 2: going hard under, but it's not only hard under. It's 1375 01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 2: like a sad under of even if they get I'm 1376 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 2: not gonna want to watch it. Like, if they somehow 1377 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 2: get to seven wins, it'll probably be the best story 1378 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 2: in the NFL. But it's not like we're gonna be 1379 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 2: leading a show with like, dude, remember that Tyler shuck 1380 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,879 Speaker 2: fourth quarter comeback. 1381 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like, oh, this is so this is 1382 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 1: so sad to listen to, Like, hey, I'm not talking 1383 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: about the music. I'm talking about you twisting yourself into 1384 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: knots right there. Like it's never good when somebody gets 1385 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: up and says, hey, does anybody have anything to say 1386 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: about the departed and they get up and they're like, man, 1387 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: I really like this car because there was nothing about 1388 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: him that was positive should be said. And there's only 1389 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: like five people in attendance at the funeral or something 1390 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 1: like that on top of everything. So I look at 1391 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: this and I'm like, first off, the schedule is not 1392 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,640 Speaker 1: very difficult, right. This division actually looks out in that 1393 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: regard in my opinion, agreed. So I look at nine fourteen, 1394 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: nine eight, they go, they play San Francisco, they go 1395 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: to Seattle and to Buffalo. I think they probably all 1396 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: three of those games, right, And then I look at 1397 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 1: the rest of this. I'm just like, man, they can 1398 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: win all these games. But here's the thing, They're not 1399 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 1: going to Nope, They're just not like I don't I 1400 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: don't see there's no reason for me to There's nothing 1401 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 1: for me to hang on to here. I'm not climbing 1402 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: this mountain because there's no hand holds for me. And 1403 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: on top of that, I don't even feel like I've 1404 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: got a rope. I'm not even gonna I'm not even 1405 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: leaving the ground when it comes to them. So yes, 1406 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm going under because they're gonna have to prove to 1407 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: me that they're actually an NFL football team, not that 1408 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: they don't have talented players or whatever else, but like, 1409 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I know nothing about Tyler Shuck, and I continue to 1410 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: believe that anyone who claims that they do outside of 1411 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 1: what they've seen from camp, and maybe if you're a 1412 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: diehard fan, you go back and you try to find 1413 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: all the footage you can from him in college or 1414 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: whatever like that, But like, nobody knows what he's gonna be. 1415 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 1: And I still just think that it's one of the 1416 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: most baffling draft decisions that I have seen, and just 1417 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: his name popping up up in the three weeks before 1418 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: the draft, I just think it's gonna be a bad 1419 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: football team. They may be more interesting just because Kellen 1420 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Moore might be more exciting with what he does offensively, 1421 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: but it's hard to be exciting when half the passes 1422 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 1: are incomplete, a third of them are coming the other direction, 1423 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: and there's no blocking. So I just I feel like 1424 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: it's a four win team. Yeah. 1425 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 7: The States reporter Nick Underhill said that he led the 1426 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 7: worst two minute offense that he had ever seen in 1427 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 7: practice last week Tyler Shuck, So I guess I'm still 1428 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 7: of the belief that Spencer Rattler could come out of 1429 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 7: nowhere and they could win like four games, maybe five. 1430 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,879 Speaker 7: So I'm on the Rattler, like I am, I am there. 1431 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Wait a sec are you like? Is that like the 1432 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: high end though undersunding, Like there's like there's hope for 1433 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 1: us to win five games? 1434 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 8: Tyler shuck. I think it's like a one win team. 1435 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 7: But it's like Spencer Rattler's there. 1436 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 8: I don't know. 1437 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: I can't even. 1438 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know how to I don't 1439 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 8: know how to feel. It's hard. It's hard to say. 1440 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 7: I don't want to like you. We're not gonna like 1441 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 7: a tank for Arch like that. I just don't think 1442 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 7: that's really likely. So I think we're just in a 1443 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 7: really dark place. We're going back to like the the 1444 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 7: the paper bags over the head, the whole foods ones now, 1445 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 7: like that's where we're headed the aints. 1446 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:16,440 Speaker 8: That's how I feel. 1447 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Really quick bow on this. There's been so much weird 1448 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 2: Arch to Cleveland stuff, and maybe we talk about that 1449 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 2: in hour three. You know what, I'll save this take. 1450 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 1: For hour we can do Yeah, we'll do it nour three. 1451 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 2: Uh, we will do it in an hour three because 1452 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 2: coming up next, Steve Disager is gonna get you caught 1453 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 2: up on everything that you missed from throughout the day, 1454 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 2: probably not talking about the Saints though. Fox Sports Radio 1455 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio Erra Tors Jason Martin 1456 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 2: broadcasting love from the Fox Sports Radio studios, as we 1457 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 2: do every week around this time. Do you want to 1458 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 2: get it over to the news desk Steve to to 1459 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 2: Steve de Seger, get you caught up on everything that 1460 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 2: you missed. Steve de Sager, take it away. 1461 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 6: And you mentioned college football. It is just two weeks 1462 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 6: away until the so called Week zero when five five 1463 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 6: different games will take place. Most everybody else opens their 1464 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 6: season the next weekend late August. But there is a 1465 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 6: Fox game in two weeks Fresno State at Kansas and 1466 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 6: there's a Hawaii home game against Stanford, and there's the 1467 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 6: Dublin game that day. In a couple of weeks, Kansas 1468 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 6: State against Iowa State. 1469 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 2: Can I jump in really quick, leaves? I was looking 1470 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 2: at Kansas State today. Crazy schedule quirk because they play 1471 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Week zero, they then play Week one, Week two Friday 1472 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 2: of Week three. A third of their season is over 1473 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,520 Speaker 2: before September twelfth. That just sounds preposterous. 1474 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 6: Can they get Skyler Thompson back, take some guys in. 1475 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just it's like they're gonna they're either gonna 1476 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 2: be really happy with where they are or conceivably down 1477 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,759 Speaker 2: in the dumps by like mid September. Just I couldn't 1478 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,959 Speaker 2: believe that when I saw. 1479 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 6: That most most teams do open late August, and there 1480 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 6: will be a late last Friday night of August, a 1481 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 6: Fox Friday Night game with Auburn at Baylor, and then 1482 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 6: the game the first big noon kickoff Saturday, August thirtieth, 1483 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 6: Texas at Ohio State. The teams that are won two 1484 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 6: in the preseason Coaches Poll noon Eastern time, Fox TV, 1485 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 6: last Saturday of August. By the way, the AP top 1486 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 6: twenty five for preseason due to come out Monday. We 1487 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 6: have a lot of NFL to discuss, including some of 1488 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 6: the late night games the Jets have Justin Fields at 1489 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 6: quarterback now. He had a thirteen yard touchdown run and 1490 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 6: a win at Green Bay thirty to ten. Not much 1491 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 6: offense from the Packers Jordan Love won of five passing 1492 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 6: in his two drives. In fact, they only had thirty 1493 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 6: two yards of offense while he was in there. 1494 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1495 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 6: For the game at Green Bay, on third down conversions, 1496 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 6: Packers were one for ten, Denver thirty to nine winners. 1497 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 6: At San Francisco, all three San Francisco quarterbacks used through interceptions, 1498 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 6: including mac Jones. Niners offense on third down conversions one 1499 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 6: for twelve. In fact, after the Niners opening drive, they 1500 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 6: had ten drives tonight, only eight first downs and four turnovers. 1501 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 6: Bo Nicks of Denver six of eleven, passing just thirty 1502 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,759 Speaker 6: one yards one safety as well on his intentional grounding, 1503 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 6: They were down nine to nothing. Jared's Didham fourteen to fifteen, 1504 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,879 Speaker 6: passing one hundred and thirty six yards and two scores. 1505 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,919 Speaker 6: Arizona edge Kansas City twenty to seventeen. The Cards fumbled 1506 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 6: the opening kickoff this evening, Patrick Mahomes shortly after with 1507 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 6: a one yard touchdown pass his only toss Tonight. Gardner 1508 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 6: Minshew Now with case had a two yard touchdown run. 1509 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 6: Bailey Zappi through two interceptions for the Arizona side, which 1510 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 6: wound up winning. For what it's worth, Kyler Murray seven 1511 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,839 Speaker 6: of eight ninety six yards, one interception, and Jacoby Bursett 1512 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 6: two touchdown passes in the second quarter Harrison Bucker booted 1513 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 6: a fifty eight yard field goal, a mere fifty eight 1514 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 6: yarder four Camps News at Jacksonville. Cam Little of the 1515 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 6: Jags booted, Well, let's just go to the call, shall 1516 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 6: we are? Bucky Brooks always does the preseason games Jags TV. 1517 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 6: He had something to say, Holy. 1518 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Smokes, I got a shot. 1519 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 2: He just kicked a seventy yard day. 1520 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me? 1521 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Crazy? That's crazy? 1522 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 2: The NFL record. That would be an NFL record in. 1523 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 6: The first half. 1524 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, that's unbelievable. 1525 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Kind of is the record is a second? 1526 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 1: You know what I love is him saying I've never 1527 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: seen that, No kidding, it would be a record. No 1528 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 1: one has ever seen that. No. 1529 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 6: I was a big russell Erkslaven fan back in the day. 1530 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 6: But even I don't recall. Yeah, the NFL record is 1531 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 6: still sixty six yards because that was done in the 1532 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 6: regular season. But this guy, a sixth rounder, yes, a 1533 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 6: drafted kicker from Arkansas a year ago, four for four 1534 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 6: on field goals. Tonight hit from forty forty one, fifty two, 1535 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 6: and seventy and he had a fifty nine yard or 1536 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,959 Speaker 6: in a real game last year at college at Arkansas. 1537 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 6: He made eighty three percent of his field goal attempts, 1538 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 6: and he was perfect on the college extra points for 1539 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 6: his career one twenty nine out of one twenty nine. 1540 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 6: Running Back Caleb Johnson of the Steelers eight carries just 1541 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 6: twenty yards rushing tonight, but Mason Rudolph was nine of 1542 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 6: ten passing eighty four yards in a score Skyler Thompson 1543 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 6: three touchdown passes. Steelers won at Jacksonville thirty one to 1544 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 6: twenty five, and Trevor Lawrence did play. Had one drive 1545 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 6: they got a field goal. It was a twelve play 1546 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 6: drive about seven and a half minutes. Lawrence was six 1547 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 6: of seven forty three yards. Rams beat Dallas thirty one 1548 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 6: to twenty one, shockingly close final score considering how things started, 1549 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 6: because in the first quarter, Dallas had two possessions, two punts, 1550 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 6: Rams had two touchdowns Blake Korum a couple of short 1551 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 6: TV runs, but by the end of the first quarter, 1552 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 6: the Rams had a stats advantage of ten first downs 1553 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 6: to none. The yard age was one sixty to one. 1554 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 6: Dallas didn't even have a rushing attempt in the first quarter. 1555 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 6: They only had the ball for about a minute and 1556 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 6: a half of the first fifteen minutes. By the end 1557 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 6: of the game, there were nineteen total penalties and almost 1558 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 6: one hundred and ninety yards in penalties. Minnesota beat Houston 1559 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 6: twenty to ten. Jordan Addison is facing a regular season suspension, 1560 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 6: but he can be in camp and be in preseason 1561 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 6: games and had three receptions. There was a Minnesota injury 1562 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 6: rand Rondel Moore again, remember what he was with Arizona. 1563 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 6: He was carted off with Minnesota today knee injury on 1564 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,800 Speaker 6: a punt return, even as coach said it did not 1565 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 6: look good. The Vikings as a team on the ground 1566 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 6: thirty carries but just eighty six yards rushing. By the way, 1567 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 6: with the new rules, there were eight kickoffs in the game, 1568 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 6: only one touch back. In the Giants at Buffalo thirteen 1569 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 6: kickoffs in the game, only three touchbacks. Remember, if they 1570 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 6: kick it properly into the quote landing zone, things go 1571 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 6: well and you can cover, and we're going to see 1572 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 6: more returns this year. But if it's a touchback, comes 1573 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 6: out to thirty five, not the thirty. 1574 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you very much, Steve Disager. A 1575 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 2: lot of ground covered there and a lot to come 1576 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 2: still to come, excuse me, come back we'll talk abow 1577 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, and we'll also talk about the big stories. 1578 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 2: At least for now, we'll explain next era tords day 1579 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 2: smartin Fox Sports Radio. 1580 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 1581 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our three tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio. 1582 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes, 1583 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 2: we are live one a m. Eastern time. We're taking 1584 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,600 Speaker 2: you up till two am Eastern. Bernie Frado of The 1585 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Bernie Frato Show follows us. Cannot wait to hear what 1586 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:42,480 Speaker 2: Bernie's takes are. On the first full week of NFL preseason, 1587 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:49,719 Speaker 2: obviously college football, we are now two Saturdays away, meaning 1588 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 2: there is one Saturday left without college football. Week zero 1589 01:20:54,439 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 2: two weeks from this from today, Week one three weeks 1590 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 2: from now. The headliners, of course, in week one you 1591 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 2: already know Texas, Ohio State on Fox Sports on Fox 1592 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,720 Speaker 2: Sports on FS one not FS one on Fox. We 1593 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 2: also have Clemson, LSU, Miami Notre Dame. The Sunday of 1594 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend, Monday night, Jamar, do you know the 1595 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 2: game that closes out Labor Day Weekend on Monday Night? 1596 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,719 Speaker 1: I have forgotten. I do remember it being another good one. 1597 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 2: It is TCU facing Jordan Hudson's North Carolina tar Heels. Baby. 1598 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,440 Speaker 1: It was I knew there was some reason, yes. 1599 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 2: And by the way Jordan Hudson sarcasm there for people 1600 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 2: who do not follow that is the young Lady and 1601 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 2: a keyword young that dates Bill Belichick. The Bill Belichick 1602 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:54,640 Speaker 2: era debuts the Monday Labor Day Night TCU at North Carolina. 1603 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 1: So, I don't know if you have heard this yet, 1604 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,879 Speaker 1: but I'm actually going to be out that weekend. 1605 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I have not. I'm gonna miss the show on 1606 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 2: Labor Day week because I have to. 1607 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I will not get to watch any football no on Friday, 1608 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: on Saturday on Sunday because I have to be on 1609 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 1: campus for grad school for a hybrid class where I 1610 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,799 Speaker 1: have to be in class nine hours Friday nine hours 1611 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 1: Saturday as part of my requirements. It'll be the first 1612 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 1: time I've been on campus and they scheduled it Labor 1613 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 1: Day weekend. Why and so, But I don't know. But 1614 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 1: if I literally it actually says if I do not 1615 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: make it to all eighteen hours, I'm immediately withdrawn from 1616 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: the course. Wow. So I have to miss and so 1617 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: we're going to actually just leave a couple of days 1618 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: early and take the kids and it'll be the first 1619 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 1: experience for Claire Grace at a kind of an amusement 1620 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: park on the way there. So it's gonna be fine. 1621 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: But like, I'm going to see no none of this. 1622 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: And there's like talk it's the greatest week one in 1623 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,519 Speaker 1: the history of college football and all these great games. 1624 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to see zero of it because I'm gonna 1625 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 1: be deep in uh church administration and education learning for 1626 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: for for two days. 1627 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 2: Wow. What where is the actual campus. 1628 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: It's in wake Forest, just close to Durham and Raleigh. 1629 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 1: It's not Winston Salem where wake Forest University is, but 1630 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in that area. I grew 1631 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 1: up in Winston Salem, so I'm actually gonna be able 1632 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: to take my family through where I grew up and 1633 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 1: show in my house and all that kind of stuff. 1634 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be fun. It'll be a fun time. 1635 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: But man, boy could not have picked the worst weekend. 1636 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: That's weird. They would this. 1637 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:39,919 Speaker 2: Whole thing holiday weekend. 1638 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 1: It is very strange. I'm a little disappointed by it. 1639 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's more important, I understand that for sure, 1640 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 1: but like a lot of good college football, and there's 1641 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 1: no way for me to just tape it all and 1642 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: then come back because I'm not gonna have the time 1643 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: to then come back and watch all that. I'm just 1644 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to I'm just gonna have to accept that 1645 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a weekend I'm gonna miss. 1646 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 2: When do you get back. 1647 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 1: I'll get back, We'll probably come back. We'll probably be 1648 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,080 Speaker 1: back Monday. I bet we don't know all the way back. 1649 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:12,640 Speaker 2: Sunday, so because Sunday even the Notre Dame uh and uh. 1650 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be in hotel and I'll be able to 1651 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: watch that game. 1652 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well, and. 1653 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: I'll miss but i'll miss being with you. And that's 1654 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 1: like our bread and butter day. 1655 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's so many good games. Yes, Unfortunately, it 1656 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 2: looks like the Oklahoma Sooners are playing a six Eastern 1657 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,719 Speaker 2: start time. It probably means I'm stuck with Arnie Spanner. 1658 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: I was like, maybe that's probably how we're going to 1659 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: work out for you. 1660 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 2: By the way, Arnie, in the lead up to our 1661 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 2: to our show was filling in with Chris Plank heard 1662 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 2: him say that no, no, his wife had tickets to 1663 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfeld tonight. Wow, listen, Arnie, I love you, buddy, 1664 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 2: but come on, man, I I know listen, all of 1665 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 2: us in this business you don't want to miss an 1666 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 2: opportunity if if you're you want to you want to 1667 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 2: be responsible and pick up when your numbers called. But 1668 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 2: it's like Jerry seinfeldt like, you know, a quick side story. 1669 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 2: But you know, like we're going away the back end 1670 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 2: of this week, and it's like, you know, if there 1671 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 2: was an opportunity to work, it's like, well we already 1672 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 2: kind of made plans, you know. It's like Jerry Seinfeld, 1673 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 2: you turned out Jerry Seidefeld thing. Oh yeah enough. 1674 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 1: So wherever you're making decisions is not a new thing now. 1675 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 2: Wherever Jerry Seinfeld was playing tonight, uh when there was 1676 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 2: a free ticket floating around or an empty seat because 1677 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier was hosting with Chris Plank from I think 1678 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 2: it was eight to eleven Eastern time. By the way, 1679 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 2: they were filling for Martin Weiss who got married today. 1680 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 1: Good for him, ingrats to him. 1681 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,599 Speaker 2: So congrats to Martin Weiss. He was out today, Arnie 1682 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 2: and Plank were in. They'll be back tomorrow. Let's uh, 1683 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,880 Speaker 2: let's get back on track here, jam Mark, let's talk 1684 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 2: about the story of the weekend. It did come on 1685 01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:02,759 Speaker 2: Friday night in North Carolina. Mary mac Let's, Uh, let's 1686 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 2: hear how things went for one Shador Sanders Friday night 1687 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:07,919 Speaker 2: in Charlotte. 1688 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,680 Speaker 1: Shaudor playfake looking end zone, lofting. 1689 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 3: Back quarter of the end zone and it is put 1690 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:21,839 Speaker 3: touchdown Cayden Davis and Shador Sanders has his first career 1691 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 3: NFL touchdown. 1692 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: That was Brown's radio network Nott Panthers radio network Color. 1693 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't count. 1694 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,599 Speaker 2: It doesn't count the touchdown. 1695 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 1: That's not his first NFL touchdown? Well what is if 1696 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,839 Speaker 1: that's not If that's if that doesn't count, If that counts, 1697 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 1: then the seventy year old, this is the seventy yard 1698 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 1: field goal has to count. 1699 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 2: Sure that's fair? Oh yeah, uh, I. 1700 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 1: Mean, I hope. I'm not saying that. No, it's not impressive. 1701 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, you know, I want I want 1702 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: to see Shoudor do this in a regular game, and 1703 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 1: I want that to be regarded as his first one. 1704 01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 1: I can understand why you would say it, but yeah, 1705 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 1: I just that's kind of pushing it a little bit, 1706 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:01,720 Speaker 1: you know. 1707 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 2: I will also say unrelated because now this segment is 1708 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 2: just completely off the rails, off the rails completely, Yes, 1709 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 2: it It is kind of weird that if something record 1710 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 2: setting happens in the preseason that it just doesn't count 1711 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 2: at all. Like I feel like a seventy yard field 1712 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,559 Speaker 2: goal should count in the record books, even if it's 1713 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 2: a preseason I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy on that. 1714 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't really like given time to think 1715 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 2: about it. Maybe it shouldn't. 1716 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 1: I guess. 1717 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like if Kobe Bryant scored ninety points 1718 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,599 Speaker 2: in a preseason game, like we would still probably talk 1719 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 2: about eighty one. 1720 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1721 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just thinking out that fair enough. But 1722 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,360 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders Uh we talked about an hour one, So 1723 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 2: if you missed it, go back and down load the podcast. 1724 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 2: But I let's just talk really quick. Listen my big 1725 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 2: takeaway and I will get it back. Go get it 1726 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 2: over to you, J mart Is, Listen. 1727 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: One. 1728 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 2: I think that if you want, if you did not 1729 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 2: believe in Shador, this means nothing to you and it's 1730 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 2: only the preseason and he's playing against backups and it 1731 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. I think if you were should or 1732 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,639 Speaker 2: believer it's the greatest thing ever, and I do think 1733 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 2: it is frankly somewhere in between. The only thing that 1734 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 2: I will say it is not nothing because at the 1735 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,760 Speaker 2: end of the day, for whatever reason, he was still 1736 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 2: a fifth round pick. There are a lot of fifth 1737 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,679 Speaker 2: round picks that do not get opportunities in this league, 1738 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 2: certainly not to start a preseason game, to play into 1739 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 2: the second half. I mean, he got five to six 1740 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 2: series and drives yesterday to at minimum put put you know, 1741 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 2: stuff on tape, but even better impressed the guys in 1742 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,600 Speaker 2: that building. And so you can't say it's nothing for 1743 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,720 Speaker 2: a guy that is on a roster that currently has 1744 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 2: six quarterbacks. We know they're not keeping all of them, 1745 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,240 Speaker 2: but he made the case that he should be one 1746 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 2: that is kept. And then, I think, more importantly, in 1747 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 2: an organization where there clearly is not a future at 1748 01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 2: quarterback on the roster, he took the first step towards 1749 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 2: maybe being that future. So I get that we're not 1750 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 2: nobody's making a bust for him and can but you 1751 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,799 Speaker 2: can't say that it means nothing specifically with that organization. 1752 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I think that's all right. Again, 1753 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 1: I don't think that it doesn't mean the preseason doesn't 1754 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,720 Speaker 1: mean the same for every single player. Depends on the situation. 1755 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 1: It depends on where they were drafted, if they were 1756 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 1: drafted or if you know they're trying to make that roster, 1757 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: even if they were picked up afterwards as a UDFA 1758 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 1: or whatever like that. But in the case of shedelor Sanders, 1759 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 1: especially with that crowded quarterback room, you got to be 1760 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 1: able to maximize every opportunity that you get because you're 1761 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 1: not guaranteed another one. And so because of how everything 1762 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: sets up for him to be able to open the 1763 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 1: preseason as QB one in this scenario, he had to 1764 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 1: take this thing as best he could. He had to 1765 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 1: maximize this opportunity. And yeah, the numbers don't blow you away, 1766 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,519 Speaker 1: but I don't really care as much about the numbers 1767 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,080 Speaker 1: as how did he look out there? And he looked polois, 1768 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: He look confident, he looked like he should have been 1769 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,360 Speaker 1: out there, made some nice plays, did some good things, 1770 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 1: and that's what you really wanted to see. I'm not 1771 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 1: surprised that we saw that. I was much more surprised 1772 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 1: at where he was drafted than how he performed in 1773 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 1: his first preseason game. The preseason is not really applicable 1774 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:23,680 Speaker 1: to what he's gonna be able to do in a 1775 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 1: regular season if given the opportunity. But he has put 1776 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: himself in a position where almost everything that you've heard 1777 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 1: about Shador Sanders over the last six months has been 1778 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 1: couched with some kind of negativity. This doesn't This is 1779 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 1: just a positive thing, and it just it kind of 1780 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,920 Speaker 1: stops the momentum train of everything going in the wrong 1781 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,599 Speaker 1: direction for him in terms of how he's been talked about, 1782 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 1: how he's been criticized, how he's been covered, to where 1783 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 1: it's just like, all right, now he's back on the 1784 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: football field. Now a lot of this stuff hopefully can 1785 01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,200 Speaker 1: just kind of center around that. 1786 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 2: Don't disagree. Again, we're not saying that we're sending him 1787 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,879 Speaker 2: to Canton, but a productive first night for Shador Sanders, 1788 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 2: two touchdown passes, fourteen of twenty three passing, and like 1789 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 2: we said in an organization that you know they need 1790 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 2: some sort of answer at quarterback, and frankly, maybe the 1791 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 2: answer is not on the roster, but it probably isn't actually, 1792 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,920 Speaker 2: and so every one of that roster is not only 1793 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 2: fighting for opportunity this year, but to prove that they 1794 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 2: are something that should be considered for the future. Shador 1795 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Sanders takes a solid first step in that direction. The 1796 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns do take care of business in Carolina on Saturday. 1797 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 2: On Friday night, excuse me. They return to the field 1798 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,120 Speaker 2: a week from today in Philadelphia. We'll see if Shador 1799 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,639 Speaker 2: Sanders is playing in that game. Fox Sports Radio Aertoris 1800 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 1801 01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 2: The Shadoor Sanders News. Yeah, it matten, but we're gonna 1802 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,600 Speaker 2: talk about a couple things that feel big now that 1803 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 2: maybe won't be quite so big in a week or two. 1804 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 2: That's coming up. 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After you subscribe to 1814 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,479 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube, click the bell icon on 1815 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 2: the homepage and turn on all notifications so you have 1816 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 2: easy access to our very best videos. Just search Fox 1817 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 2: Sports Radio on YouTube. All right, Jmart, So, uh, you 1818 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 2: sent over a segment idea today. I absolutely loved it. 1819 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 2: I want you to. Maybe I'm gonna throw it to 1820 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,920 Speaker 2: you and we could get started in a minute, but 1821 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 2: kind of frame it and you don't have to give 1822 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 2: your example, or maybe you do, but you can probably 1823 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 2: explain it a little bit better than me. But I 1824 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,719 Speaker 2: love the idea. Go ahead and explain to the audience 1825 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 2: what we're gonna be doing in the next few minutes. 1826 01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be hearing a lot in the next 1827 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,799 Speaker 1: few weeks, especially leading into the regular season in the NFL. 1828 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna be hearing a lot of takes. We're gonna 1829 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 1: hear a lot of opinions. We're gonna hear a lot 1830 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 1: of stuff that I think is gonna be flat out sensationalized, overplayed, overhyped, 1831 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 1: over discussed, just just blown wildly out of proportion. And 1832 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,360 Speaker 1: so that got me to thinking, well, can we predict 1833 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,519 Speaker 1: what those are going to be? And maybe have we 1834 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 1: already started to see some of those things take place. 1835 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna turn out to 1836 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 1: be wrong. It just means that even though we have 1837 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,679 Speaker 1: a bit less evidence than we should, people are still 1838 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,680 Speaker 1: going to be all over these topics. Example, and I 1839 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 1: can just give you mine then because it can be 1840 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 1: the example, and then we can come back to me. 1841 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,120 Speaker 1: Perhaps Jason kind of go to your example. Go ahead. 1842 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 1: My example is is it time to cut bait with 1843 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears. 1844 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's a hot one on these internet streets and. 1845 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,640 Speaker 1: All over the place. Man, Kayleb Williams is trash. This 1846 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Bears team is a disaster. There's red flags all over 1847 01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 1: the place because of what we've heard about in practice. 1848 01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,719 Speaker 1: And also, can we at least get to the first 1849 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,640 Speaker 1: game of the season before we completely He's got a 1850 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,040 Speaker 1: new coach, everything is changing around him. I understand last 1851 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,120 Speaker 1: year didn't go maybe as swimmingly as we thought, especially 1852 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: considering what Jayden Daniels did. He may never be as 1853 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,559 Speaker 1: good as Jayden Daniels. But I don't necessarily think that 1854 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,559 Speaker 1: it is fair to already be cutting bait or be 1855 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:54,760 Speaker 1: using practice like whatever's coming out of practices guys to 1856 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,880 Speaker 1: bury his entire career. I think that we were a 1857 01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 1: bit premature here, but it has It's definitely become a 1858 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 1: talking point, and that was kind of the one that 1859 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,639 Speaker 1: got me thinking, well, what else is out there similar 1860 01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: to this? That's just got me rolling my eyes every 1861 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,720 Speaker 1: time I hear it, like slow down their race. I 1862 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 1: don't think we're there yet. 1863 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 2: So I agree with you on a hundred percent. I 1864 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 2: see this saga has a smile on his face. Do 1865 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,680 Speaker 2: you have one that you'd like to do? 1866 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 6: But it's kind of going off the board because you 1867 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 6: two will have better ones. And I don't want to repeat, 1868 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:29,600 Speaker 6: but the Colts quarterback competition between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, 1869 01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 6: I mean, are these two even gonna have careers in 1870 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,280 Speaker 6: the NFL? Forget the fact if they're going to do 1871 01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 6: anything for the Colts. Anthony Richardson played about as many 1872 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 6: college football games as Trey Lance. Sure, and I remember 1873 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 6: he had a great opener and was flashy against Tutah. 1874 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,719 Speaker 6: You know, he just needs to play, and not being 1875 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 6: healthy with the and not recognizing the sac Thursday night 1876 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,599 Speaker 6: didn't help, but at least he was back at practice today. 1877 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 6: I just think there's too many layers of does this 1878 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 6: even matter in this story? 1879 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,719 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what that actually leads perfectly into mine, 1880 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 2: one of mine. It's not perfect, it's not perfectly fit 1881 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,160 Speaker 2: into this this window. We gotta stop with the arch 1882 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 2: Manning mad libs. Like it just it just feels like, oh, 1883 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 2: pick a team, pick a situation, you know, like the 1884 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 2: Archie Manning thing this week was such a non story 1885 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,800 Speaker 2: and it was like it was the most boring story 1886 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,760 Speaker 2: because it's like everyone has the same take. It's like, 1887 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 2: if he's totally awesome, he's gonna go pro. It doesn't 1888 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 2: matter what Grandpa says in August. He's gonna go pro. 1889 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,160 Speaker 2: And if he isn't, then he'll go to the so 1890 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,600 Speaker 2: state of Texas. And there's a New Orleans connection and 1891 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,639 Speaker 2: with but this was this is what why I think 1892 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,200 Speaker 2: it actually piggybacks off yours. 1893 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 1: Listen. 1894 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,519 Speaker 2: I think I know where it originated with our colleague 1895 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd, who has always been very nice to me. Colin, 1896 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 2: if you're listening, I am not picking on you. But 1897 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,800 Speaker 2: this whole thing, the Cleveland Browns, It's like so many 1898 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,320 Speaker 2: things have to happen with the Browns for arch Manning 1899 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 2: to end up with the number one for Cleveland, end 1900 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,599 Speaker 2: up with the number one overall pick. But here's the thing. 1901 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,759 Speaker 6: Any way, they would have to get rid of six quarterbacks. 1902 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,240 Speaker 2: They have to get rid of six quarterbacks. They he'd 1903 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,280 Speaker 2: have to be good enough, they need to take them. 1904 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 2: But here's my question. There are more, I don't want 1905 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,600 Speaker 2: to say, more interesting teams, but there are certainly some 1906 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:26,080 Speaker 2: scenarios that are just as intriguing, one of them. 1907 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:26,679 Speaker 1: Being New Orleans. 1908 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 2: But what about Indianapolis If they go four and you 1909 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,800 Speaker 2: know whatever, thirteen this year, they're gonna be drafting a quarterback, 1910 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,799 Speaker 2: and so why not if we're gonna just start throwing 1911 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 2: darts at hypothetical landing spots for Arch Manning the place 1912 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 2: where his grandpa played in New Orleans, but also the 1913 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 2: place where his uncle played in Indianapolis. 1914 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,679 Speaker 6: And the Raiders are gonna need a quarterback sooner than later. 1915 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah no, And so Arch was another one of mine 1916 01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 2: of just like we're just making stuff up right now 1917 01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 2: because it's August and we just have no thing to 1918 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 2: talk about. And it's like we had a. 1919 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:04,200 Speaker 6: Seventy yard field goal tonight. 1920 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah No, it's like, hey and j Mart, Yeah, I'll 1921 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 2: just say it, JAMR and I kind of have an 1922 01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 2: inside running joke about ESPN is just like, we need 1923 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,080 Speaker 2: to kill a college football segment. Yeah, and Paul Fine Bombs. 1924 01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,599 Speaker 2: It's like, fine Bomb, just come up with something. He's like, okay, 1925 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 2: Arch best quarterback since Tebow. And it's just like that's 1926 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 2: where we are. 1927 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 6: Is We're just I can go I can go further 1928 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 6: than that with ESPN. This is this is the bane 1929 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 6: of having a twenty four hour operation and way too 1930 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,400 Speaker 6: many talk shows. We need to kill a fill in 1931 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 6: the blank segment, yep, any show, No, there's no point. 1932 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 1: Also, can we have a take? Can we have a 1933 01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,360 Speaker 1: take that's hot enough guys that it can then help 1934 01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: us kill those same segments on every other showy we 1935 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 1: do for that exactly. 1936 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 6: Can we have a Lebron James argument, let's make it twelve. 1937 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly well. 1938 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 6: And that's you know, the NFL is gonna be owning 1939 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:04,679 Speaker 6: ten percent of that channel. 1940 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. The richest guy, the richest guy on that network 1941 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 1: actually had a Lebron take on Friday. He's just like, 1942 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, Lebron needs to go back to Cleveland. 1943 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, I haven't heard that. Yeah, well, beast, 1944 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 2: go to the website. 1945 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 1: It's a giant splash screen in case you need it. 1946 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,200 Speaker 6: Maybe I guess ninth very good. 1947 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,439 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, maybe he can get a condo 1948 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,080 Speaker 2: with Arch Manning. They'll just be besties and roomies and 1949 01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,800 Speaker 2: it'll be great. But now arch Manning is just like, 1950 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,320 Speaker 2: we're just throwing we'll just make it stuff. 1951 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,800 Speaker 6: Maybe Arch and Bronni get an apartment. 1952 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:33,559 Speaker 2: There you go. 1953 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,720 Speaker 6: Bronnie gets a real gig in Cleveland. 1954 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,439 Speaker 2: Established as a career, gets an internship, a quicken loan. 1955 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 6: Now that's a second. 1956 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, j Bart, do you have any I have another one, 1957 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 2: j Bar, but I'm curious if you have any others. 1958 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 1: Well one, I'm starting to see. I saw this and 1959 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:55,840 Speaker 1: I was just like, what, don't be surprised if the 1960 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,559 Speaker 1: Patriots win the East. 1961 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's a take right there. 1962 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like, wait a second. I also heard that 1963 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,759 Speaker 1: the Bills were the favorites for the Super Bowl. 1964 01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:09,160 Speaker 6: I would be surprised if I'm still surprised. 1965 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, okay, yeah, but it's just like we 1966 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,360 Speaker 1: don't need to let the under like. Look. Look, I 1967 01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: covered Mike Rabel's entire tenure as the Tennessee Titans coach 1968 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,000 Speaker 1: day after day here in Nashville. Dude's a good coach, 1969 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: no question about that. 1970 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 6: The offense is after one game better, I can say 1971 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:27,800 Speaker 6: that pretty much in pen at this point. 1972 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: There you go, you sharpie it, there Seth Davis. But 1973 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,880 Speaker 1: past that, the Bills are better than the Patriots. Like 1974 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I'm like jumping out on a 1975 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 1: limb there September. Yes, yeah, exactly so. I mean, I'm 1976 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 1: just I think they're gonna be a better football team. 1977 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,559 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a much better football team. 1978 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 1: I do not think they're gonna win ten games. I 1979 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 1: don't think that we're quite there yet. Maybe they will. 1980 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be the story of the year if 1981 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,559 Speaker 1: they do. But I'm starting to see more and more 1982 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,160 Speaker 1: traction about how good the Patriots are gonna be. I 1983 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 1: think we need to slow down just a bit and 1984 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 1: wait until they play a few actual teams that actually care. 1985 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 6: One team had four wins last year and the other 1986 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,920 Speaker 6: had only four losses last year. And the James Cook 1987 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,400 Speaker 6: reference of Bill's running back by the way, he did 1988 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 6: actually warm up on the field today and then just 1989 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,879 Speaker 6: chose not to play at Buffalo. 1990 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,160 Speaker 2: That's the most preseason story I've ever heard in my life. 1991 01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,000 Speaker 1: Yes it is. 1992 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,479 Speaker 6: Didn't see Micah Parsons tonight either. 1993 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh huh, maybe with to Mike in a minute. I 1994 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,439 Speaker 2: got another one in the AFC AFC East. As a 1995 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,920 Speaker 2: matter of fact, I don't need the minute to minute 1996 01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:38,760 Speaker 2: highs and lows of Justin Fields, like I think we 1997 01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 2: know exactly who he is as a quarterback. And it's 1998 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 2: funny I was thinking about this is there are certainly 1999 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have a kind of a revival late in 2000 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,519 Speaker 2: their careers, but usually there's something surrounding it. Gino Smith 2001 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,720 Speaker 2: was a backup for like six years, could just be 2002 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,439 Speaker 2: a backup. Then he came in, You're like, oh, he's 2003 01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:00,360 Speaker 2: kind of competent. Rich Gannon, rich Gannon, Sam darn I 2004 01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 2: think he's gonna stake at Seattle. But you could see 2005 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 2: the scenario Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, whatever. Justin Fields has 2006 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 2: had the chance to start with two different teams, two 2007 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,679 Speaker 2: different organizations in the last two years now. Admittedly, both 2008 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,719 Speaker 2: of them were defensive first head coaches, so that probably 2009 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,760 Speaker 2: didn't put him in the best position to Succeeed, here's 2010 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 2: the problem. He's with the defense first head coach with 2011 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 2: the New York Jets right now, and so like he's 2012 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 2: going to be exactly who he has been there is. 2013 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 6: Well, they hope he's who he was before these last 2014 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,680 Speaker 6: two years, because we actually saw a quarterback rush for 2015 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,240 Speaker 6: a thousand yards in one sea. 2016 01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 1: They're fair. 2017 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,840 Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just today his touchdown was the 2018 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 6: play breaks down he goes up the middle cuts right, 2019 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 6: it was impressive. 2020 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,919 Speaker 2: Well, he did have a few of those in Pittsburgh 2021 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 2: last year. But it's just like, I don't know, maybe 2022 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,680 Speaker 2: it's just the East Coast bias thing kicking in, or 2023 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,479 Speaker 2: maybe I know too many New York people, but it's 2024 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 2: like both, Yeah, he's gonna be exactly who he's been. 2025 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 2: Andy happy he's getting a third, third opportunity. But I 2026 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,040 Speaker 2: don't know. I just I don't think there's like I 2027 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna be Sam Darnold where it's like, oh, 2028 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 2: they won fourteen games or twelve games or made the 2029 01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,560 Speaker 2: playoffs or whatever. So it's another one of mine. Anybody else, anybody. 2030 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,559 Speaker 1: Else have any go Oh, okay, let's do it. Jalen 2031 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,559 Speaker 1: Hurts is not good, dude. 2032 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,720 Speaker 2: Did I tell you my Jalen Hurts thing? 2033 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have or not. 2034 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 2: I told Martin Weiss this the other day. I said, 2035 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is the new Dak. It's exactly what we 2036 01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:45,080 Speaker 2: just said. You need an NFL segment in July. For 2037 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 2: the past ten years it's been like, what is the 2038 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,759 Speaker 2: Cowboys ceiling with Dak? You know, it was always Dak 2039 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,479 Speaker 2: and now it just felt like this July it became 2040 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,960 Speaker 2: we need a segment. How good is Jalen Hurts. 2041 01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 6: The problem is Jalen can't hear you because he's got 2042 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 6: a super Bowl ring in his ears. 2043 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's the Yeah, he's the quarterback 2044 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 2: that's like, not a superstar. But just do you not. 2045 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,400 Speaker 6: Remember the Super Bowl he lost? How awesome that game was? 2046 01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:15,160 Speaker 1: That game? 2047 01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say he's pretty good. 2048 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2049 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,680 Speaker 6: I just he has a chance if he puts up 2050 01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,800 Speaker 6: one and more of those Super Bowls, win or lose, 2051 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 6: he has a chance of having like a Kurt Warner 2052 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,479 Speaker 6: type of career who had three of the greatest Super 2053 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,519 Speaker 6: Bowls and runs that we've seen, and he didn't win 2054 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 6: all of them, he still made the Hall of Fame. 2055 01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 2: I yeah, I just the No, that's good question. 2056 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,639 Speaker 1: Let me ask you just just a weird question. All right, Sure, 2057 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,120 Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson was a quarterback for the Eagles, would 2058 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:44,320 Speaker 1: you have a super Bowl ring? 2059 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,880 Speaker 6: I'm not convinced that's a pretty good line though. 2060 01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 2: It's a great hype. 2061 01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,680 Speaker 6: I mean offensive line, not just. 2062 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm asking that, right, Like, let's say, Jay, 2063 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 1: when Hurts goes and wins another super Bowl, and they're 2064 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 1: going to credit it to Saquon Barkley and the defense 2065 01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 1: and everybody else under the sun. Yet I feel like 2066 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 1: he would have then had a far superior career or 2067 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,439 Speaker 1: two then a multiple time MVP and Lamar Jackson. 2068 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 6: Yeah no, I mean he would have all of these 2069 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 6: Jackson playoffs literally almost all of them are very close losses, 2070 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,679 Speaker 6: and at least half of those losses are such winnable games. 2071 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,719 Speaker 6: I mean when he finally made the playoffs against the Chargers, 2072 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 6: this is pre COVID. He did nothing for three quarters 2073 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 6: on the field at home and still came close at 2074 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 6: the end. 2075 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that narrative. It just it's such 2076 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,880 Speaker 2: a like that was one that was fair for like 2077 01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 2: a year or two, and then last couple of years 2078 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,160 Speaker 2: hasn't worked out. But like last year he was fine, 2079 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,639 Speaker 2: the tight end dropped back to back huge. I thought 2080 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 2: he outplayed Josh Allen in the playoffs, so I know 2081 01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,160 Speaker 2: we're not doing a Lamar take here at whatever. By 2082 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:54,960 Speaker 2: the way, speaking of the Eagles, really quick, I understand 2083 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,880 Speaker 2: this notion. I heard this today. I couldn't believe it. 2084 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,640 Speaker 2: I understand this notion that like you can't like a 2085 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,679 Speaker 2: running back can't win MVP. And we saw it last 2086 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:09,200 Speaker 2: year Saquon Barkley and the MVP odds is fifty to 2087 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,240 Speaker 2: one right now. 2088 01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 1: I'd take that all day. 2089 01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,240 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Behind Trevor Lawrence, Drake 2090 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 2: May and bow Knox. 2091 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,679 Speaker 6: I can't believe it. The fantasy football people are looking 2092 01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,719 Speaker 6: at all the touches, including the postseason run that Barkley 2093 01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,760 Speaker 6: got last year, and saying you always go down the 2094 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 6: next year. Well, his high was so high. 2095 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,400 Speaker 2: If he goes That's what I mean. Yeah, And I 2096 01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 2: think if he has something close, it's like it's like 2097 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,600 Speaker 2: all these MVP awards is listen, Mahomes, the bar is 2098 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,760 Speaker 2: so high. You know, Josh Allen just got it. So 2099 01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,200 Speaker 2: he's in theory gotta be as good or better. Lamar's 2100 01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:49,480 Speaker 2: got two. And I think if Saquon had something resembling 2101 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 2: the year that he had last year. So when he 2102 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:57,200 Speaker 2: finished nineteen hundred yards, obviously somewhere in that ballpark. Like 2103 01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 2: if he finishes with seventeen fifty in a seventeen game 2104 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 2: season and he does it again, I think people would 2105 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,240 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, why why can't we get First of all, 2106 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,360 Speaker 2: I think you should have won it last year, but 2107 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,759 Speaker 2: it's like, why can't why can't he get that award? 2108 01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 2: Some in two thousand and five that says. 2109 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,599 Speaker 1: Was that here's I got it, So I got another 2110 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:22,479 Speaker 1: one same state as my Eagles take. The Steelers are 2111 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:27,600 Speaker 1: all in in twenty twenty five. I'm hearing that everywhere, 2112 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like why because they have a forty thousand 2113 01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 1: year old quarterback. Like I don't understand. I don't get it. Again. 2114 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,720 Speaker 1: I am so down on the Steelers this year. And 2115 01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: I love me some Mike Tomlin, but I think there's 2116 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 1: under five hundred this year. 2117 01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,080 Speaker 6: Last year was Dallas fill in the blank. 2118 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:47,559 Speaker 1: All Yes, any Dallas take could fit in this in 2119 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:52,880 Speaker 1: this conversation. This music underneath the music, Vine Milk is 2120 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,960 Speaker 1: perfect for this. This is the cow I'm telling you. 2121 01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,680 Speaker 1: The Steelers being all in I keep hearing it everywhere. Man, 2122 01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 1: they got to do this for Aaron. No, they really don't, 2123 01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,400 Speaker 1: like they do. Not the team I'm most interested to 2124 01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,080 Speaker 1: see in that division, well, I guess it is Pittsburgh. 2125 01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:07,640 Speaker 1: But I want to see what Joe Burrow does this 2126 01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,680 Speaker 1: year because that was that last year was such a 2127 01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:13,840 Speaker 1: weird year for them, and Burrow has all this talent, 2128 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,360 Speaker 1: so I want to see he's the guy that could 2129 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,080 Speaker 1: come out being an MVP if he played. 2130 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:18,639 Speaker 2: He's probably he's the one. 2131 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,599 Speaker 1: But I still I like your Saquon take. 2132 01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just and it has nothing to do with 2133 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,200 Speaker 2: like takes that that wasn't necessarily a take. But while 2134 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,719 Speaker 2: we were on the Eagles, I was like, I can't 2135 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 2: believe that. All right, we got some good stuff in there, Justinez. 2136 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:36,559 Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's a bunch more. 2137 01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,519 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow was sacked almost fifty times again last year, 2138 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,880 Speaker 6: just for the record, aside from the defensive problems with Cincinnati. 2139 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think really quick before we get to 2140 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,760 Speaker 2: your final update to say, is there any are there 2141 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,280 Speaker 2: any other just takes that are just. 2142 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,559 Speaker 6: Oh, we have it's a good one. 2143 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:52,320 Speaker 1: This stuff. 2144 01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2145 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,120 Speaker 6: By the way, I did look up the Kurt Wonner 2146 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:59,240 Speaker 6: three Super Bowls. He passed for three sixty five in one, 2147 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,439 Speaker 6: three hundred and seventy seven yards in another, and passed 2148 01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:03,520 Speaker 6: for four or fourteen. 2149 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 2150 01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 1: That game in Arizona when they played the Steelers, Yeah, 2151 01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,200 Speaker 1: last unbelievable in that football game. 2152 01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 6: And it looked like the Fitzgerald touchdown was going to 2153 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:13,920 Speaker 6: win it late. 2154 01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:17,840 Speaker 1: That was just a great That was just a great 2155 01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 1: sporting event. It was. 2156 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 6: And remember the long interception return right before night. 2157 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, did James Harrison play broke down? 2158 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,880 Speaker 6: That was one of the great games in Super Bowl history. 2159 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:30,960 Speaker 2: San Antonio Holmes, am I crazy to tap MVP. I 2160 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,840 Speaker 2: think we got all the big ones. I'm looking at 2161 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 2: these teams right now. I don't think there's anything any 2162 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:36,879 Speaker 2: super spicy meatball. 2163 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 6: Uh. 2164 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 2: The overreaction to the Lions on a Hall of Fame 2165 01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:44,560 Speaker 2: game was was a good one. Oh you know they really. 2166 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,440 Speaker 6: Missed bad Johnson to night turnovers. 2167 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:47,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because. 2168 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, wait wait yeah wait, I got I got 2169 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,479 Speaker 1: one for you. Because you said this last week that 2170 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 1: like Trey Lance is starting to show he deserves I was. 2171 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,960 Speaker 2: Just like, I don't know that I said that. 2172 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,639 Speaker 1: Well you said something, I say one of our topics. 2173 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,759 Speaker 1: I think it was has he earned? Has he earned 2174 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 1: a shot? 2175 01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,920 Speaker 2: It was a question, not a statement. Let me put 2176 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 2: it that way. 2177 01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:11,160 Speaker 6: He started that game. Taylor Heineke starts tomorrow afternoon, Chargers 2178 01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,599 Speaker 6: host the Saints and Spencer Rattler on Sunday. 2179 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 2: That's that's Breez's favorite player. By the way, She's got 2180 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:18,800 Speaker 2: her Spencer. Are you going to the game tomorrow? 2181 01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 6: Not Drew brees Arbury? 2182 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah right? Are you? Are you tail getting? Are you 2183 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,480 Speaker 2: camping out? Are you going straight this thing? 2184 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,600 Speaker 6: She's gonna bring her anti shuck banners? Yeah, yeah, go 2185 01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:30,679 Speaker 6: up and down the aisle. 2186 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 8: Can you imagine that? 2187 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,240 Speaker 2: A paper bag to work and set the tone for 2188 01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:37,320 Speaker 2: the season ahead. 2189 01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,320 Speaker 6: She's gonna have the Aints bag out before the end 2190 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,960 Speaker 6: of September. Baby Ould Foods. 2191 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:43,479 Speaker 7: Is right up the street. 2192 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:44,759 Speaker 8: That's where I'm gonna get my bag. 2193 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 1: Tyler ty Klass though it's organic, reusable, terrible more than 2194 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 1: Tyler is going to be working in eighteen months, as 2195 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,600 Speaker 1: that's a problem. 2196 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,360 Speaker 6: At the grocery store where the bag is from. 2197 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,160 Speaker 1: Give him a chance to at least be mediocre. 2198 01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I gave him seven years in college. 2199 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean sorry, I thought that was enough. 2200 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,759 Speaker 6: He goes neck nuts in next weekend's game. Oh there's 2201 01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,040 Speaker 6: your next Yeah. Addition to this. 2202 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 1: Segment, the segment no way. There will be no takes 2203 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 1: about Tyler Shuck in his entire career. By the time 2204 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,680 Speaker 1: he leaves, no one will have mentioned him like in 2205 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,200 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. Like. It won't be positive, 2206 01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,479 Speaker 1: it won't be negative. It'll just be like, who was 2207 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:29,479 Speaker 1: a quarterback the first year that Kellen wore was? Who 2208 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 1: was that guy? 2209 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 5: Like? 2210 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,799 Speaker 1: People were not It's gonna be like a Jeopardy answer that. Yeah, 2211 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:34,760 Speaker 1: no one will be able to. 2212 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 6: It'll be more like, do you remember there was a 2213 01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:38,840 Speaker 6: guy who you actually pronounced his name? 2214 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:39,240 Speaker 1: Shuck? 2215 01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 6: Somebody in the NFL was called Shuck. 2216 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't in Nebraska. Yeah that guy didn't. 2217 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,839 Speaker 6: He play for fifty two schools and then. 2218 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,640 Speaker 2: Two full seasons, one in COVID which was like a 2219 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 2: four game season, and then his seventh year of college. 2220 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:57,559 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what second stuff SATs. Yeah, you've 2221 01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:01,160 Speaker 2: been going all day. You gotta get home, So get 2222 01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,240 Speaker 2: us a final update of the evening. 2223 01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,960 Speaker 6: Well, we must mention the Jacksonville home game among the 2224 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,280 Speaker 6: many preseason games in the NFL. Tonight, Pittsburgh won thirty 2225 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:13,639 Speaker 6: one twenty five, but Can Little of the Jags kicked 2226 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,760 Speaker 6: a seventy yard field goal to end the first half. 2227 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,720 Speaker 6: The NFL record is still sixty six because that occurred 2228 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,240 Speaker 6: in a regular season game. Quite memorable, as I recall, 2229 01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,720 Speaker 6: with the Tucker and bouncing and going through Arizona bea 2230 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,320 Speaker 6: Kansas City twenty to seventeen. Harrison Bucker a fifty eight 2231 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,360 Speaker 6: yarder in that one. Tampa Bay and the Jets with 2232 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,679 Speaker 6: wins Denver down nine to nothing early won thirty to nine. 2233 01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:39,120 Speaker 6: At San Francisco, Rams over the Cowboys thirty one to 2234 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 6: twenty one. After the first quarter, the Cowboys had one yard, 2235 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,200 Speaker 6: the Rams had one hundred and sixty. Minnesota and the 2236 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 6: Giants each one. Russell Wilson was the Giant starting quarterback, 2237 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,639 Speaker 6: had one field goal, drive six of seven passing twenty 2238 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:55,439 Speaker 6: eight yards. Tomorrow afternoon, not only Chargers hosting New Orleans, 2239 01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:59,320 Speaker 6: but before that one pm Eastern, it'll be Chicago hosting Miami. 2240 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 6: Only the three games on Friday night, not only do 2241 01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,880 Speaker 6: Shudur Sanders win for Cleveland thirty to ten at Carolina, 2242 01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:09,519 Speaker 6: New England beat Washington last night forty eight eighteen Patriots 2243 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,240 Speaker 6: rookie Traveon Henderson returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. 2244 01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 6: In baseball tonight, Seattle's Cal Rawley hit his forty fourth 2245 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,360 Speaker 6: homer Mariners seven to four over Tampa Bay. The Dodger 2246 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 6: Shoheo Tani hit his fortieth homer nine to one LA 2247 01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,320 Speaker 6: against Toronto. The Padres blew the lead in the ninth, 2248 01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,679 Speaker 6: but still beat Boston in ten innings, five to four. 2249 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,000 Speaker 6: The Yankees homered in the eighths to win five to 2250 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:34,360 Speaker 6: four against Houston. Victories for the Cubs, Brewers, and Phillies. 2251 01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,360 Speaker 6: Tommy Fleetwood leads by one stroke in Memphis. WNBA wins 2252 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,400 Speaker 6: for Golden State and Indiana, and a reminder, just three 2253 01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,759 Speaker 6: races left in the IndyCar season. The next event Sunday 2254 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,880 Speaker 6: in Portland, Oregon on Fox TV. 2255 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 2: Again back to you, thank you very much to say 2256 01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,800 Speaker 2: you have a great evening. Joy the game tomorrow. Will 2257 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,120 Speaker 2: you be back in time or. 2258 01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:57,560 Speaker 6: I will race back in time for the Arnie Spaniard Spectacular. 2259 01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, our space pit called lot things spectacular. 2260 01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 6: To the show then the host time, Actually. 2261 01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,639 Speaker 1: That would work with the Seinfeld reference to yes. 2262 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:15,360 Speaker 2: Annie Spinel passing up on spectacular. He's one of the 2263 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,880 Speaker 2: two for sure. All Right, we'll come back to saga 2264 01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 2: of Grady evening, we'll come back wrap the show. This 2265 01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:26,160 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. 2266 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:32,400 Speaker 2: Aertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hey, 2267 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,200 Speaker 2: if you missed any of today's show, you're gonna want 2268 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,840 Speaker 2: to go catch the podcast. That is what I need 2269 01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:40,840 Speaker 2: you to do. Just search Fox Sports Radio weekends wherever 2270 01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,600 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Right after the show, producer Bree, 2271 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,520 Speaker 2: we'll get the podcast loaded up, so be sure to 2272 01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,920 Speaker 2: follow the podcast. Rate it, give a five star review, 2273 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,120 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 2274 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,720 Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll find tonight's show as soon 2275 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,360 Speaker 2: as we get off air. J March a couple of 2276 01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,000 Speaker 2: things before we get out of here. By the way, 2277 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,400 Speaker 2: we're taking you up until two am Eastern. Bernie Frattle 2278 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:07,720 Speaker 2: follows us. We mentioned one of these teams, but two 2279 01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:11,520 Speaker 2: preseason games tomorrow. One of the games that is being played, 2280 01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,680 Speaker 2: as we just said, Di Seger will be at New 2281 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:17,160 Speaker 2: Orleans at Los Angeles. Promise. I am not asking a 2282 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:23,080 Speaker 2: Trey Lance question, but awful news awful news. Rashaun Slater 2283 01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,040 Speaker 2: earlier this week starting left tackle out for the year 2284 01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:29,600 Speaker 2: torn pateeller tendon. That you know, the only interesting thing. 2285 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,960 Speaker 2: Two really good tackles on that team with Joe Walt 2286 01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,120 Speaker 2: being drafted a year ago, he's going to move from 2287 01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,520 Speaker 2: the right to the left. I don't really know where 2288 01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 2: you stood on the Chargers coming into this year, but 2289 01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,520 Speaker 2: just crushing news as a tackle of that caliber out 2290 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:45,960 Speaker 2: for the year. 2291 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously that's not good and left tackle 2292 01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 1: being as important as it is in the league. I 2293 01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 1: in terms of how I felt about the Chargers, I 2294 01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,880 Speaker 1: think I was a little more optimistic about him this year. 2295 01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,240 Speaker 1: You get year two of Harball. I mean, I don't 2296 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,480 Speaker 1: think that. I think the highs that we've heard about 2297 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,000 Speaker 1: justin Herbert sometimes are a little overblown and it makes 2298 01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,320 Speaker 1: it easy to criticize. But I also know the guys 2299 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 1: are really talented. Can he put it all together when 2300 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,200 Speaker 1: it comes to just being able to stay healthy and 2301 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,520 Speaker 1: his guys? Does he have enough weapons around them not? 2302 01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, you're right, they are actually better equipped because 2303 01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:27,920 Speaker 1: of alt to sustain Slater being an All Pro and 2304 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,920 Speaker 1: losing your left tackle is just a huge deal. And 2305 01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:32,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams it would break their line. 2306 01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,840 Speaker 1: But the Chargers are actually in a spot where it's 2307 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,360 Speaker 1: not gonna harm them quite as much. So I don't 2308 01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,320 Speaker 1: know that it really affects. It affects depth, but I 2309 01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know that it's gonna be, you know, the death 2310 01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 1: knell for them. I still think they're gonna have a 2311 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,120 Speaker 1: pretty good year. I don't know exactly. We'll get to 2312 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:51,560 Speaker 1: those numbers when we do the AFC West and we 2313 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,760 Speaker 1: can go through it all there. But it's a team 2314 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:56,880 Speaker 1: that should make the playoffs, and if they don't, then 2315 01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,320 Speaker 1: the questions about Justin Herbert are going to be very loud. 2316 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 2: Don't disagree. The Chargers hosting the Saints at SOFI Stadium. 2317 01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,120 Speaker 2: That is a four pm Eastern start. Our buddy Steve 2318 01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:09,880 Speaker 2: de Sager will be there. Hey, I do want to 2319 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,000 Speaker 2: ask you Miami at Chicago's the early game. Now, listen, 2320 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,560 Speaker 2: we just did the Caleb Williams. Let's not overreact. My 2321 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:21,560 Speaker 2: My question is more about Ben Johnson has been. I 2322 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:25,320 Speaker 2: actually really like how like vocal he's been and how 2323 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,160 Speaker 2: much of a for lack of a better term, hard, 2324 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:31,080 Speaker 2: you know what he's been really just you know, I didn't. 2325 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that I really knew what to expect 2326 01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,120 Speaker 2: from Ben Johnson. You know, I kind of thought he 2327 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 2: was like the quirky, mad scientist kind of guy, and I, 2328 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:40,840 Speaker 2: you know, I kind of wondered how would he be 2329 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 2: as a leader of men quote unquote, But you know, 2330 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,440 Speaker 2: he's kind of set the tone on what his expectations are. 2331 01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,360 Speaker 2: You know, he's thrown him out of practice a few times. 2332 01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,400 Speaker 2: He's been very vocal about Caleb isn't where we need 2333 01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,160 Speaker 2: him to be at various points since he took the job, 2334 01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,240 Speaker 2: not saying that this means that Caleb Williams is gonna 2335 01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,160 Speaker 2: be a bench by week three, as we just discussed 2336 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,320 Speaker 2: last segment. But I've been kind of I'm just kind 2337 01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,640 Speaker 2: of intrigued about this team. But I've also been impressed 2338 01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,840 Speaker 2: by how Ben Johnson has at least publicly been kind 2339 01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,080 Speaker 2: of handling that team. 2340 01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's very outfront, no question about that, 2341 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:19,000 Speaker 1: and he is there's not a whole lot that is 2342 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 1: being left behind closed doors, which it depends on what 2343 01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,520 Speaker 1: team you have. But at the same time, you would 2344 01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,160 Speaker 1: hope that he sort of has a bit of a 2345 01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,440 Speaker 1: sense and he's trying to create a culture. Usually when 2346 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:32,640 Speaker 1: you walk into a situation, there's already a culture, unless 2347 01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a brand new scenario where there's not Ben a 2348 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:37,720 Speaker 1: coach or whatever like that. And this goes for business 2349 01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:39,920 Speaker 1: and everything else. There's a culture. When you come in 2350 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 1: and let's say you get hired as a CEO of Apple, 2351 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,160 Speaker 1: there's already a culture at Apple. Perhaps it's not what 2352 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,480 Speaker 1: you there's a reason why you're being moved into that role, 2353 01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, barring death or something like that, there's been 2354 01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,680 Speaker 1: some kind of an inefficiency, there's been some kind of 2355 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,320 Speaker 1: a change there. So Ben Johnson's coming in there and 2356 01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,960 Speaker 1: he's having to uproot a culture and bring in something 2357 01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:03,320 Speaker 1: completely different. After there's been some malaise, there's been some issues, 2358 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,720 Speaker 1: there's been some negativity. You know, Caleb's first year was 2359 01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:08,280 Speaker 1: not what you would have wanted it to be. It 2360 01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,280 Speaker 1: was kind of a lame duck situation with the wrong 2361 01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,600 Speaker 1: coach in place. So he's coming in and he's taking 2362 01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:14,200 Speaker 1: the bull by the horns and he's going in a 2363 01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:18,440 Speaker 1: completely opposite direction. He's trying to be a culture changer, 2364 01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:21,280 Speaker 1: but also he's trying to just kind of institute it 2365 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:24,000 Speaker 1: his way, and it's not a gradual move. It's a 2366 01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,920 Speaker 1: very rapid move, which I think is probably smart really 2367 01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,200 Speaker 1: because in the NFL you just don't have the time 2368 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:33,360 Speaker 1: to move one percent at a time. So he's he's 2369 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:37,800 Speaker 1: very much doing the Silicon Valley tech thing where he's 2370 01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,840 Speaker 1: basically moving past and breaking things. 2371 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:45,800 Speaker 2: Bears playing the Miami Dolphins tomorrow, the Chargers hosting the 2372 01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:47,560 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints. We got to get out of here. 2373 01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,000 Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew, Mary mack on the board, 2374 01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,680 Speaker 2: producer Brie for Steve Desager, and my partner Jason Martin. 2375 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm are Torres. Make sure to download the podcast available 2376 01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,760 Speaker 2: wherever you get podcasts, shortly after the show coming up 2377 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,640 Speaker 2: now next Bernie Fratto cannot wait to hear what he 2378 02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,920 Speaker 2: has to say. Bernie Next, Fox Sports, are you