Speaker 1: I Am all in.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 3: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: All Right, Everybody, Scott Patterson one on one interview, I
Speaker 1: Am All In Podcast, iHeartRadio one eleven Productions. We are
Speaker 1: going to be talking to a Jordan Belfie, who played
Speaker 1: the role of Jordan Chase for one episode in two
Speaker 1: thousand and five. His only appearance was in season five,
Speaker 1: episode eight, The Party's Over. His character was Jordan. He
Speaker 1: was sent to talk to Rory at the party by Emily,
Speaker 1: who told him that they were made for each other.
Speaker 1: Logan and erupts them and thanks Jordan for keeping his
Speaker 1: girl quote unquote busy. All right, A little bit about Jordan.
Speaker 1: He was born in Los Angeles, California. He's an actor
Speaker 1: and producer known for Entourage two thousand and four, All
Speaker 1: American twenty eighteen, Grades Anatomy two thousand and five. He
Speaker 1: has been married to Rochelle de Maria since October twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He has a young son. And we're going
Speaker 1: to get to know Jordan a little better. And why
Speaker 1: don't you bring him on in? Hey Jordan, Hi, Hey,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Man. How'd you get into acting.
Speaker 3: How did I get into acting? Well, I started actually
Speaker 3: when I was a kid. I was obsessed with cinema.
Speaker 3: I was always shooting movies and wrangling all the kids
Speaker 3: from the neighborhood. So I was always obsessed with movies
Speaker 3: and with acting. I started doing commercials actually, you know,
Speaker 3: when I was a kid. But I went away to
Speaker 3: film school back east. I grew up in southern Calfin
Speaker 3: in LA, just outside of the you know, in the
Speaker 3: suburbs outside of LA. Went to New England to school
Speaker 3: to Wesleyan University. Was a film major. There was directing
Speaker 3: shows and performing in shows. But I was a film major.
Speaker 3: And then when I came back, I really started my career.
Speaker 3: I directed a your thesis film while in school that
Speaker 3: got seen when I got back to LA, passed around,
Speaker 3: got me picked up by the agents and managers I
Speaker 3: had at the time, and then I started my career wonderful.
Speaker 1: I am. DP page says that you were a camera
Speaker 1: production assistant on the movie Wild Wild West. Is that true?
Speaker 3: It's totally true. I was still in college at the time. I,
Speaker 3: like I said, I was a film major, So I
Speaker 3: was hustling and getting in and around anything that I could,
Speaker 3: And I got on that movie as a in the
Speaker 3: camera department, and I was a teenager and I was
Speaker 3: taken in by the camera crew. It was a famous
Speaker 3: director of photography named Michael Ballhaus fellows and tons of
Speaker 3: Scorsese movies, story DP. I worked in his department. The
Speaker 3: camera operator on that movie became like a mentor to me,
Speaker 3: not only just a friend, but a mentor, and he
Speaker 3: ended up shooting that that senior thesis film of mine
Speaker 3: my senior year of college. And so I built this
Speaker 3: amazing community of a film makers and friends who were
Speaker 3: serious professionals and became mentors and it helped me generate
Speaker 3: a start to my career. But yes, it's totally true.
Speaker 3: And will Smith was very kind to me at the
Speaker 3: at the time I was. Again, I can't say that
Speaker 3: he did, but it.
Speaker 1: Was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a really formative point for me in terms
Speaker 3: of being around it was. It was the biggest of
Speaker 3: the big in terms of studio movies, and I was
Speaker 3: a teenager and I was right next to camera the
Speaker 3: whole time, and I took in all of it and
Speaker 3: it really affected me, affected what I wanted to do,
Speaker 3: but also the way in which I was going to
Speaker 3: go about doing it. I absorbed everything I could from,
Speaker 3: you know, the guys that were doing it at the
Speaker 3: highest levels, and so I was really lucky and really
Speaker 3: fortunate to be in that position and then to uh
Speaker 3: to take it all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean watching a guy like Ballhause jeez, yeah, yeah, deep,
Speaker 1: He's always got me very excited. If you knew that
Speaker 1: it was a top guy and you're going to be
Speaker 1: working with a top guy, then everybody just kind of
Speaker 1: sat back and let him light and let him do
Speaker 1: his thing.
Speaker 3: And although I will say, I don't want to talk
Speaker 3: out of school, because again I was I was just
Speaker 3: a camera assistant on that. But a guy named Barry
Speaker 3: Soenfeld was directing that who famously, you know, made Men
Speaker 3: in Black, you know, with and movies I loved, like
Speaker 3: Get Shorty and things like that. But he I could
Speaker 3: even tell, and again I don't want to talk out
Speaker 3: of school, but I could even tell at that point
Speaker 3: that he and his style and Michael Bauhaus's style didn't
Speaker 3: really mesh. Oh no, And unfortunately, I think it's sort
Speaker 3: of like resulted in a movie that really wasn't what
Speaker 3: it could have been. But in terms of the people
Speaker 3: and the experience for me personally.
Speaker 1: But I mean, but Unfeld picked him or did the
Speaker 1: studio just say you're working with Balhausen.
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't know enough to be able to
Speaker 3: say say.
Speaker 1: They must have sat down. I mean they spend all
Speaker 1: of that time in pre production together, you know, mapping
Speaker 1: out shots and locations they were together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, as with anything in any kind
Speaker 3: of collaborative art form, sometimes you know, it isn't until
Speaker 3: you're in the thick of it that you know you
Speaker 3: either you either line up or you don't.
Speaker 1: I know what happened. I Will Smith started just unloading
Speaker 1: on both of them, right, he was just slapping people
Speaker 1: all over the place. Right.
Speaker 3: It isn't true, but funny, funny thought nonetheless. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's why I think, even in my own career,
Speaker 3: in my own life, when you find people that you
Speaker 3: work with that you just that spark happens. It's a
Speaker 3: sort of difficult thing to describe to people outside of it.
Speaker 3: But there's an electricity, there's a sort of ineffable, you know,
Speaker 3: ethereal connection that can happen that becomes a electric and
Speaker 3: profound And when you find that in somebody that you're
Speaker 3: working with, you want to work with that person over
Speaker 3: and over again. It's why you see you know, you
Speaker 3: know DiCaprio and Scorsese or any of these teams, or
Speaker 3: the movie after movie after movie. You just want to
Speaker 3: keep working.
Speaker 1: With those I found that several times. But it was
Speaker 1: always with the craft service food I found.
Speaker 3: But equally equally is important.
Speaker 1: Amazing. What do you remember about your role on Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you guys reached out about this, it
Speaker 3: was it was going a minute.
Speaker 1: Did you even remember being on this ship?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I know. I will say, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to pretend that I don't remember. You know, you try
Speaker 3: to think that, oh, I'm way past that, you know. No,
Speaker 3: I remember everything and everything I've ever done, and I
Speaker 3: remember almost everybody I've I've ever worked with. That's the
Speaker 3: way my mind works, and that's the way my heart works.
Speaker 3: But uh, what what do I remember about it? I remember,
Speaker 3: I remember auditioning for it. I remember in the room
Speaker 3: it was a very specific thing that they said, uh
Speaker 3: that we talked fast on this show, and that's just
Speaker 3: the way we do it. I remember even in the
Speaker 3: audition them telling it. It was just sort of a thing.
Speaker 3: I think they said to any actor, any performance coming through,
Speaker 3: this is our this is the world, this is how
Speaker 3: we we operate. And it was very clear from moment
Speaker 3: one that that's how they operated. The other things I remember,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much detail you want, but.
Speaker 1: I want it all, man, give it to everything.
Speaker 3: Oh god, man. I remember that that they were very
Speaker 3: into for characters like like you know that came through
Speaker 3: for an episode like mine. They were very into using
Speaker 3: your own name the name of the character. There was
Speaker 3: something about that that I think that they thought that
Speaker 3: gave us sort of some extra little authenticity, something little
Speaker 3: icing on the cake.
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't have to clear it.
Speaker 3: That might be a practical legal reason that I'm not
Speaker 3: aware of, but I'm going with the artistic side. But
Speaker 3: you might be right. I'm trying to give the creators
Speaker 3: and the and and the writers.
Speaker 1: That is what I do. I ruin it. I ruin it.
Speaker 1: I just I just I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure all the magic and mystery.
Speaker 1: I just keep my mouth shut. I'd be I'd be
Speaker 1: a lot better off now.
Speaker 3: Scott, It's cool. I actually I believe I believe it.
Speaker 3: I believe that characters like that they.
Speaker 1: It's not cool. I gotta stop rowing and stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: No it is. It's an amazing detail. It's fraught with
Speaker 1: artistic integrity. You used your own name.
Speaker 3: I didn't use my own name. They changed the name
Speaker 3: of the character. What a twist, I mean for all
Speaker 3: of it. Man, the character this I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what the character was named. Prior to me,
Speaker 3: it was something Chase, but they changed it. I showed up,
Speaker 3: I got the script, and all of a sudden it
Speaker 3: was Jordan Chase and some of the other things I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember very distinctly waiting probably twelve hours to shoot.
Speaker 3: It was one of those things where I remember sitting
Speaker 3: in the trailer whatever schedule. The schedules like that happen
Speaker 3: all the.
Speaker 1: Time, and you probably got the call from the you know, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just about to get to your scene.
Speaker 3: You need to come back now correctly.
Speaker 1: Then you're there all day.
Speaker 3: The reason I remember that, Scott is because I know
Speaker 3: I'm from LA but my entire childhood and life I've
Speaker 3: been a Boston Red Sox fan. This was two thousand
Speaker 3: and four. This was October of two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: I remember it very specifically, this.
Speaker 1: Is when they is this the first time they won
Speaker 1: it in a long time? Right?
Speaker 3: This was the year that the one and while we
Speaker 3: were shooting Gilmore Girls, the alcs between famously between the
Speaker 3: Red Sox and the Yankees where they were down three
Speaker 3: games to zero and then came back in one fourth
Speaker 3: straight in this miracle thing to beat the Yankees in
Speaker 3: order to go the World Series. And the reason I
Speaker 3: mentioned that is because I remember during those twelve hours
Speaker 3: that I was waiting at the end of the night,
Speaker 3: I sat in my trailer and I watched the Red
Speaker 3: Sox lose one of those three games to the Yankees,
Speaker 3: and it burned in my mind. And then when they
Speaker 3: finally called, I went and shot that's that's stuff and
Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: So you're borrowing from your own life and bringing it
Speaker 1: into the work.
Speaker 3: Borrowing something interesting.
Speaker 1: From Jordan with the loss, the baseball loss.
Speaker 3: It's true because in that scene I am I am
Speaker 3: totally rejected.
Speaker 1: I do lose because I remember watching the episode and
Speaker 1: I remember seeing you, and I said, this guy is
Speaker 1: rising above some serious pain. Now I know what it is.
Speaker 3: I could tell the sarcasms a little thing, A dare
Speaker 3: you diminish that role. No. I And again, I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is interesting to you or your your audience,
Speaker 3: your listeners. But the other reason I remember that time
Speaker 3: so specifically is because that two thousand and four, as
Speaker 3: long ago as that was, it seems like a lifetime ago.
Speaker 3: It was actually a very transfer. Well, it was kind
Speaker 3: of an inflection point in my career because that was
Speaker 3: also the same year that I started on Entourage. Ah,
Speaker 3: and that changed my career.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, So what was the part like on Entourage?
Speaker 1: What did you do on Entourage?
Speaker 3: I played this character named Adam Davies. I was an agent.
Speaker 3: I started out as Johnny Drama Kevin Dillon's character, his agent,
Speaker 3: and then I grew to become a nemesis to Ari
Speaker 3: Gold and Jerem Pimmon's character. And so I did it
Speaker 3: for six years. But that year, the first was the
Speaker 3: first episode that I did, And it was supposed to
Speaker 3: only be one episode originally, but it just it became
Speaker 3: something that grew. Deug Gallon, the creator kept writing me
Speaker 3: in and it just became this this character on the show.
Speaker 3: But that was the same time I was doing this
Speaker 3: this Gilmore Girls, and so it's burned into my memory
Speaker 3: for that reason as well, was that it was one
Speaker 3: of those as an actor, you remember those moments in
Speaker 3: your career. There are these like points along that that
Speaker 3: graph that you're like, that's when that happened and that changed.
Speaker 3: It was that.
Speaker 1: So what do you remember about filming with with Matt
Speaker 1: Zukri and Alexis Bledel.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that I just worked.
Speaker 1: With Matt no on The Resident The Residence.
Speaker 3: I just and we talked about it and it's it
Speaker 3: was it's one of these things about this this business,
Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful thing actually that you know, in effect,
Speaker 3: it's a very very small business. It's a small world,
Speaker 3: but it's an infinitely smaller business. And you know the
Speaker 3: fact that you could circle back with somebody and reunite
Speaker 3: and work again, you know, seventeen eighteen years later or
Speaker 3: whatever it is, is remarkable and it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's super fun. I mean I didn't I got to
Speaker 3: be honest, I didn't get to necessarily know them super well,
Speaker 3: you know, from coming in and doing an episode. But
Speaker 3: everyone was cool. I mean it was fun. And you know,
Speaker 3: for anyone that's listening that doesn't know what we're referring to.
Speaker 3: What I remember is that it's basically this party, and
Speaker 3: I'm hitting on Rory. Is it? It's work. I've been asked
Speaker 3: to go up by you know that she's you know,
Speaker 3: maybe available, or at least that's what I've been told,
Speaker 3: and I go hit on her.
Speaker 1: And as as a young man would, as.
Speaker 3: A young upstanding man would.
Speaker 1: I don't invited to the party for that very purpose.
Speaker 3: So so Matt, you know, in the scene, Matt slides
Speaker 3: in and save her from from me. As I write,
Speaker 3: so we're big.
Speaker 1: We're big Matt fans here at the podcast. We adore,
Speaker 1: we adore Maddie.
Speaker 3: He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a terrific, terrific guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will. And you know, I think a
Speaker 3: lot of times because I've you know, I've guested and
Speaker 3: recurred on many, many, many many shows, and you're in
Speaker 3: an interesting position when you're coming in to do an
Speaker 3: episode or two or three, or do an arc on
Speaker 3: a show like that, because you're essentially a guest in
Speaker 3: someone else's house. And in a way I've been told,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think about it this way, but
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, it's actually a more difficult
Speaker 3: position to be in.
Speaker 1: I agree, I do it. I agree with that you have.
Speaker 3: To just sort of drop in to an already established.
Speaker 1: World, especially that show.
Speaker 3: Especially that show, but an already established universe that has
Speaker 3: its own rules, its own tone, it's its own rhythms.
Speaker 1: You weren't allowed to look at anybody, right, those signs
Speaker 1: were up, don't You're.
Speaker 3: Not allowed to look at Mad or you know, or
Speaker 3: Alexus in the eye. I mean, those things color it.
Speaker 3: But but you have to drop in and operate in
Speaker 3: this way that like it's seamless with with a world
Speaker 3: that's already established that you have no ramp up to
Speaker 3: ease into, and so you've got to drop in and
Speaker 3: be there. Yeah, in a way like doing a role
Speaker 3: like that on Gilmore Girls. I mean it's, uh, you
Speaker 3: just got to kind of you've got to execute. You
Speaker 3: got to drop in and be there.
Speaker 1: Did you rehearse? Did you rehearse your scene? A ton
Speaker 1: of times? That way?
Speaker 3: Oh? Personally or personally with or with with the Mad
Speaker 3: and a Lexus?
Speaker 1: No, I mean your like the Night Course, I mean, of.
Speaker 3: Course, I mean you you know, you do all your
Speaker 3: own work, and a lot of that, particularly because I'm
Speaker 3: probably not telling you anything you don't already know, or
Speaker 3: most of your audience doesn't already know. But the speed
Speaker 3: of television there is zero rehearsal and so.
Speaker 1: Really well known. Well for that, I guess that kind
Speaker 1: of a scene they didn't they didn't they didn't rehearse
Speaker 1: the scene.
Speaker 3: Not just not just that kind of scene, any scene.
Speaker 3: I mean you And what by I mean zero rehearsal.
Speaker 3: You might do it a take or a rehearsal take
Speaker 3: or to just to sort of you know, stage it
Speaker 3: for for you know, the director and the crew and
Speaker 3: they see you know your position and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have to do it for camera to
Speaker 1: get focused focused us.
Speaker 3: You run it. You run it once or twice for
Speaker 3: those reasons, sort of practical reason and sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: for you to find it for a second. But you
Speaker 3: don't have time to work it and make discoveries. And
Speaker 3: really you're expected and and as you should be, you know,
Speaker 3: to to be ready to go and turn it on
Speaker 3: and execute, and television and and a lot of movies,
Speaker 3: you don't have time for that. You you got to
Speaker 3: be a pro and show up. And so even more
Speaker 3: so with a scene like this, like we're not going
Speaker 3: to rehearse, rehearse, it's like you're gonna be brought in,
Speaker 3: You're going to drop in, You're do it once for
Speaker 3: camera and for Marx, and then you're gonna shoot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: particularly when they're running as far behind as they were
Speaker 3: that night, right exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, You poor guys have to pay the price every
Speaker 1: time with those big setups, in those big party scenes
Speaker 1: they take forever.
Speaker 3: It's a small it's a small price to pay for
Speaker 3: that price.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you're out in the in the real
Speaker 1: world outside of the Hollywood bubble, are you recognized for
Speaker 1: the Gilmore girl role? Are you recognized for the Entourage role?
Speaker 1: What do you recognize for?
Speaker 3: There are a handful, you know. Again I say this humbly,
Speaker 3: and you know, out of complete uh gratitude for people,
Speaker 3: you know, having appreciation for your work. It's not too
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But yes, there are. There are
Speaker 3: a handful of roles that I've had the wildly good
Speaker 3: fortune to play. The people love that. People watch over
Speaker 3: and over again and recognize me for when I'm out
Speaker 3: and about. Probably, you know, the the biggest one is
Speaker 3: Entourage because it has that show, you know, although it's
Speaker 3: been off the air for a number of years now.
Speaker 3: The fandom around that show and the way it was
Speaker 3: a kind of again it started in two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: HBO was the prestige game in town. It was no streaming.
Speaker 3: HBO Sunday Nights was sacrocick. It was the prestigious night
Speaker 3: of television. In fact, remember the whole thing HBO. It's
Speaker 3: not TV, you know, it's HBO.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It was that era of like just you know, Sopranos
Speaker 3: was still on, but you know, Sex and the City
Speaker 3: and then Entourage came. It was like zeitgeist stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, they're using swear words.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, But I can't tell you how many people
Speaker 3: love come up to me quote my own lines back
Speaker 3: at me, want to talk about it, or tell me
Speaker 3: about how they moved to La because of that show,
Speaker 3: or they wanted to get into the entertainment business because
Speaker 3: of what they saw on Enturage or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of people's window kind of lyriistic
Speaker 3: jokes on Yeah, it is really true. But you know
Speaker 3: it's also interesting, Scott, is that when you look enough,
Speaker 3: time passes because La itself was sort of almost another
Speaker 3: character within the show, because it was all about Los
Speaker 3: Angeles and it was all shot on location in and
Speaker 3: around Los Angeles. What's amazing is when you look at
Speaker 3: the show, now, how much of a kind of time
Speaker 3: capsule for Los Angeles the show because unfortunately, how La
Speaker 3: What La is sort of what's happened in La in
Speaker 3: the past handful of years and you look back on
Speaker 3: entraage and you see it glaringly. But anyway, to finished
Speaker 3: answer your question, Entourage and I start in, you know,
Speaker 3: in a Hallmark you know rom com, a kind of
Speaker 3: you know holiday Hallmark movie. Oh really, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: I you know, I start in this movie. People, it's
Speaker 3: one of the most popular Hallmark movies.
Speaker 1: Of all time, no kidding? Who is who is your
Speaker 1: co star? Who is the female?
Speaker 3: A woman named Katrina Law? Okay, Katrina is now on NCIS,
Speaker 3: but they they play it every single holiday season for
Speaker 3: ten years. It is remarkable. And what's what's special about that?
Speaker 3: And I'm not diminishing that genre at all, because it's
Speaker 3: is that it because it airs every year, and it's
Speaker 3: part of it's become a part of people's holiday traditions.
Speaker 3: You're in their homes. You're not just in their homes,
Speaker 3: but you're in their homes during the period that they're
Speaker 3: most kind of with their family in that kind of
Speaker 3: cozy place. So for for my movie, for that movie
Speaker 3: to be a part of people's tradition and their family
Speaker 3: time in that way, it's a really special People love
Speaker 3: it and you know you can't help, but just you know,
Speaker 3: be grateful for being able to be a part of that,
Speaker 3: you know, be a part of people's lives in that way.
Speaker 3: So those are probably the two things off the top
Speaker 3: of my head that people recognize me the most out
Speaker 3: and about.
Speaker 1: Got right right of course. So you played opposite Jeremy Piven.
Speaker 1: Did you get to work with him during you know,
Speaker 1: during your scenes or did you shoot your scenes separately?
Speaker 1: What was it like working What was it like working
Speaker 1: with him? Because I know he's a he's I don't
Speaker 1: know him, okay, but I was around him a little
Speaker 1: bit at one point the I don't know, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: He's a very intense guy, right did you find him
Speaker 1: to be? And he's a very good actor, ya, So
Speaker 1: what tell us about that experience? Did you bring your bongos.
Speaker 3: Bring my bonds?
Speaker 1: He's a big into drumming?
Speaker 3: Oh is he? I will? I will admit I didn't
Speaker 3: know that, right. Uh, he's a very good actor, and
Speaker 3: he brings he brings a lot of originality and instinctiveness
Speaker 3: and energy and force to the role, and specifically that role.
Speaker 3: I think I think everyone once in a while, every
Speaker 3: once in a great while. I mean, in fact, I
Speaker 3: think if it happens once, maybe twice in your career,
Speaker 3: that you as a performer, as who you are and
Speaker 3: a particular character just aligns so much that it sparks
Speaker 3: why and if you and you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: people spend their whole careers searching for that that role.
Speaker 3: It just it's And the thing is is that there's
Speaker 3: a good deal of it that's outside of your control, because.
Speaker 1: You find that most of the time that role finds you.
Speaker 3: It's a good question, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: do know what you mean. I'll give you an example.
Speaker 3: I'm in I'm starring in a movie right now that's
Speaker 3: in theaters. It's been in theaters for the past this
Speaker 3: is the seventh weekend. It's the latest film that I'm
Speaker 3: called Nefarious. It's me and Sean Patrick Flannering came.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know Sean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a terrific Yeah, and a really like a
Speaker 3: really solid good guy. And the movie is essentially what
Speaker 3: they call a two hander. It's really just a two
Speaker 3: person movie. So it's just me and Sean for almost
Speaker 3: the entirety of the film, which is insanely rare, incredibly unique,
Speaker 3: and you just don't see movies like that anymore. And
Speaker 3: there's it's really about performance and and and because so
Speaker 3: who you're acting opposite is everything that that role is
Speaker 3: one of the you know, one of the best juiciest, delicious,
Speaker 3: rich complex roles that I've ever had the opportunity to play.
Speaker 3: It's you know, and and also being released to theaters
Speaker 3: as it is and being as successful as it is,
Speaker 3: it's like had this insane run. I mean, the number
Speaker 3: of variables that have to come together for all that
Speaker 3: to happen is lightning in a bottle that most of
Speaker 3: which you can't control. But to your point, how that
Speaker 3: movie came to me, I'll still never.
Speaker 1: Really know, because you're in the game.
Speaker 3: You're in the game.
Speaker 1: You're in the game, You're you're you're you're slugging it
Speaker 1: out every day, and you know, a lot of days
Speaker 1: you're getting beat up real bad, and then you just
Speaker 1: you know, you you stay in the game. You stay,
Speaker 1: you keep punching, and stuff is going to happen. You know.
Speaker 1: It's for me, it's always been a marathon, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's just like the longer you stay in it
Speaker 1: a the better you're going to get at auditioning, the
Speaker 1: more your name's going to get out there, the more
Speaker 1: work you're going to get come in your way, and
Speaker 1: the more people in your category are going to retire
Speaker 1: for one reason or another. And it's just.
Speaker 3: It's just just wait it out. I think I think
Speaker 3: that there is a huge amount that that that is
Speaker 3: dead on.
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, it keeps you keep you stay in
Speaker 1: the game. It's you don't have to be relevant, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to be it's hard to become
Speaker 1: relevant and then stay relevant, you know. But it's like
Speaker 1: if you're in the game and you're like, hey, I'm here,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm auditioning, and I'm like I'm out
Speaker 1: there and I'm available and I'm working. I want to work.
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's totally.
Speaker 1: It's the mindset. It's it's like it's your mental toughness
Speaker 1: to hang in there, you know, I think.
Speaker 3: But also as you said one of the important components
Speaker 3: is that you know, you never stop working, and so
Speaker 3: you're you're also always refining your craft and building that
Speaker 3: experience and having that, you know, sort of the wake
Speaker 3: of all those roles stay with you, and you bring
Speaker 3: that to everything that you do. I mean, that's the
Speaker 3: thing that people underestimate about not just acting, but probably
Speaker 3: any craft, is that you're not just hiring that person
Speaker 3: for that job. You're hiring that person also for essentially
Speaker 3: every other job they've ever done, because all of that experience,
Speaker 3: all of that how much they're known for all those
Speaker 3: other roles, but all of those other roles that they've
Speaker 3: done are a part of what their craft is and
Speaker 3: what they're bringing to now this new role that you're
Speaker 3: hiring them for. And I definitely think that's true for me,
Speaker 3: and everything that you just said is true for how
Speaker 3: I've built my career. It's been a total marathon. I mean,
Speaker 3: we're talking about me starting on Entourage. That was in
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, that's almost twenty years ago, and
Speaker 3: I've never stopped. And so you're right, like, this role
Speaker 3: in Nefarious is the name of the movie. I didn't
Speaker 3: audition for it, came to me, and just on a
Speaker 3: personal note, you know, I've shared this in some of
Speaker 3: the press and stuff I've done for that movie. But
Speaker 3: when that movie came to me, I had to make
Speaker 3: a decision. And my wife was nine and a half
Speaker 3: months pregnant.
Speaker 1: This was gonna be my next question.
Speaker 3: So I had to make a decision because I knew
Speaker 3: that if I took that movie, I was almost guaranteed
Speaker 3: to miss the birth of my first born, and in fact,
Speaker 3: I did miss the birth of my firstborn son, not
Speaker 3: just my firstborn son, my first born and so he
Speaker 3: was born, as I shared, on day one of shooting.
Speaker 1: That movie, and you were out of town.
Speaker 3: I was out of town.
Speaker 1: How far away were you.
Speaker 3: In Oklahoma City?
Speaker 1: You're in Oklahoma and she was here in La.
Speaker 3: I went to bed. She went into labor the night
Speaker 3: before day one of that movie, a movie in which
Speaker 3: I was in every moment of the entire movie. So
Speaker 3: like I was describing a two person movie, it was
Speaker 3: this massive endeavor that lay before me that I was
Speaker 3: about to embark on. And the night before starting that
Speaker 3: my wife went into labor. So I went to bed
Speaker 3: that night, knowing I was starting the movie in the morning,
Speaker 3: and my wife was in labor. I got up in
Speaker 3: the morning. I went to set, which was this real
Speaker 3: penitentiary where we were shooting at. I went through hair
Speaker 3: and makeup, I got to my trailer, I got into wardrobe,
Speaker 3: and I got the text from my mother in law,
Speaker 3: her mom, that he had just been born. And I
Speaker 3: facetimed and my little boy, and again.
Speaker 1: This is my first Did you cry?
Speaker 3: I was trying not to because I was in makeup,
Speaker 3: but it was impossible not to. I mean, I'm looking
Speaker 3: at I'm facetiming. He's ninety seconds old. He's on my
Speaker 3: wife's chest and I'm looking at him. And as cliche
Speaker 3: as I'm sure it sounds to anybody that doesn't have kids,
Speaker 3: it really is this out of body moment and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at this being and he's an alien, but he's
Speaker 3: also and I'm having that moment. And then right in
Speaker 3: that moment, Knock Knock Jordan were ready, and so I
Speaker 3: had to hang up and want to go do the
Speaker 3: first shot of the movie.
Speaker 1: And what was do you remember? You you remember the
Speaker 1: scene that you had to do?
Speaker 3: It was it wasn't it wasn't an intense thing. It
Speaker 3: was this driving scene, but I went, but nobody knew,
Speaker 3: nobody on the movie right now.
Speaker 1: You don't wanna, You don't want to tell them like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I just my you know. And then well
Speaker 1: the other thing is the producers like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: why did you do that? You're causing all these delays,
Speaker 1: it's costing all this money.
Speaker 3: I think it was mostly because they probably were would
Speaker 3: have been horrified that I would just leave and just
Speaker 3: take off, and that they couldn't probably tell me no,
Speaker 3: because you know, and and I'm sure there's probably a
Speaker 3: lot of people that understandably would have just said, I'm
Speaker 3: out of here. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: That's a tough call because you know, it's like that's
Speaker 1: long term security for your family, and that job is
Speaker 1: definitely some security, but you don't know what that job
Speaker 1: is gonna lead to, could lead to much bigger and
Speaker 1: better things.
Speaker 3: Never know. And that's, by the way, and that wasn't
Speaker 3: the only thing. It's not like I did. It's not
Speaker 3: like I told my wife this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: No matter what you think, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: Don't care. You go have your baby. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: do my acting career.
Speaker 3: No, we we you know, this was a this was
Speaker 3: a deep intimate decision that we came to together and
Speaker 3: we decided as a family it was best for us
Speaker 3: and best for our family, like you just said, long term,
Speaker 3: and so I have every intention of being there the
Speaker 3: next time.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a it's a tough it's just
Speaker 1: such a tough call, but you gotta do you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta do the right thing for the family. You
Speaker 1: can't be wrong in that situation. If you're there, that's
Speaker 1: the right decision. If you're not there and you do
Speaker 1: the movie, and that's the right decision too. So it's
Speaker 1: like there's both decisions are correct because you'll.
Speaker 3: Never know, you'll never know what Domino's like will be
Speaker 3: set in motion from as a result of each position.
Speaker 1: No, no, seriously, and they could be great movies and
Speaker 1: they could be you know, could be good for everybody.
Speaker 3: Your hundred sent Okay, I'll share one little thing if
Speaker 3: you're interested, one other little part of that which feeds
Speaker 3: into what you just said for me personally, and again
Speaker 3: you can some of it, I know are things that
Speaker 3: we when we say we see signs, you know, I
Speaker 3: know that there's probably an argument to be made. It's
Speaker 3: it's about what we want to see or what we're
Speaker 3: projecting onto it or the rest. But I will say
Speaker 3: that this one story that I have shared with with
Speaker 3: certain people. My son's name is Rocky. That's what we
Speaker 3: named him. And we had already named him, you know,
Speaker 3: by the time I left for Oklahoma City. And I
Speaker 3: got to Oklahoma City, which is a city I'd never been,
Speaker 3: and I was staying in a hotel I didn't choose,
Speaker 3: but I got there on that Sunday night. He was
Speaker 3: born that Wednesday. But I got there that Sunday night
Speaker 3: and I got to my hotel and I got up
Speaker 3: to the room and I was I remember thinking I
Speaker 3: was torn up about about it. And I remember getting
Speaker 3: to the room and I was standing there, I was alone,
Speaker 3: and I said to myself, what the hell am I doing?
Speaker 3: What am I doing? I'm in Oklahoma City. My wife
Speaker 3: is two thousand miles away, you know, about to give birth.
Speaker 3: What what am I doing? This is crazy? And so,
Speaker 3: you know, I was feeling that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just going to go for a walk.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna clear my head. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna go for a walk. I put my bag down,
Speaker 3: I walked out of the hotel. I turned right. I
Speaker 3: walked a block and I looked up and there was
Speaker 3: a gigantic sign that said Rocky right next to where
Speaker 3: I was staying. A literal sign. Obviously the figure it
Speaker 3: out expected self explanatory, but a literal sign. I've never
Speaker 3: seen a sign that says that says Rocky. It it
Speaker 3: was a venue. It was like a bar, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, music venue kind of thing. And I you
Speaker 3: have this moment where I remember thinking, okay, I'm maybe
Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay. Then Scott I go to set
Speaker 3: and my stunt coordinator on the movie, Sylvester Stallone's double
Speaker 3: like twenty years who did the movies? Impossible just impossible,
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, whatever you believe, whatever you believe in, okay,
Speaker 3: it's okay that I'm here. And it gave me a
Speaker 3: certain sense of peace that I was that it was
Speaker 3: okay at least for me.
Speaker 1: Amazing, Yeah, what are you working on Now's? First of all,
Speaker 1: how old is Rocky now?
Speaker 3: He is now seventeen months, He's.
Speaker 1: Just seventeen months. He's still a little little nut guy.
Speaker 3: He's uh, he and he's I mean, you have I
Speaker 3: have any kids.
Speaker 1: Yet, I just have I just have Nick. He's he's
Speaker 1: going to be nine years old early June.
Speaker 3: So you have a little boy. I mean you can
Speaker 3: remember if you remember that far back. I'm sure you do.
Speaker 3: Although everybody says the same thing to the point where
Speaker 3: you're like, yay, I get it that. You know, everyone
Speaker 3: says enjoyed, it goes.
Speaker 1: Fast, enjoyed it goes It really does.
Speaker 3: But I know, and you hear it and you know
Speaker 3: it intellectually and you're like, yeah, yeah, I get it,
Speaker 3: and then it's totally true. Right.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's when he starts getting older, like
Speaker 1: he just starts getting six, seven, eight, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have full on conversations with him, and man,
Speaker 1: you're gonna think back and like, God, it just seems
Speaker 1: like yesterday he was this. It's just this cute little
Speaker 1: bundle of you know, and it's just it blows your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes fast. It's almost the decade, and I just
Speaker 1: it seems like it just happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm already feeling that he's only eighteen months old.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine when when he's nine and I
Speaker 3: can have full on conversations.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's amazing, it's it's it's a mirror
Speaker 1: every single day is And I've said this before. You know,
Speaker 1: people and and and they can they can have their
Speaker 1: own definitions about what the meaning of life is. I
Speaker 1: discovered what the meaning of life is as minute he
Speaker 1: was born, and then I went, oh, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Got it, full hard, clear eyes, right, all of.
Speaker 3: A sudden, Absolutely, no, it's true. I mean, uh, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're you're you're outside of yourself. You know,
Speaker 3: there's there's something so much bigger than than you, there's
Speaker 3: something so much more important. And I think that's probably
Speaker 3: you know, one of the most important keys to life
Speaker 3: is that, is that there the target is outside of yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, always is it.
Speaker 3: It always is. And when you become a parent, it's
Speaker 3: the most tangible embodiment of that. It's the most tangible
Speaker 3: representation of that because you know, before you become a parent,
Speaker 3: you don't realize what you would do, what you'd sacrifice,
Speaker 3: what you'd sacrifice, you know, right with yourself for another.
Speaker 1: That becomes very clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it first starts, at least for me personally.
Speaker 3: I want to speak for everybody else, but that first
Speaker 3: started the moment I got married and I become you know,
Speaker 3: then there's that because at first it goes you, and
Speaker 3: then and then your spouse and then your children. But man,
Speaker 3: it is uh. And so by the way that that's
Speaker 3: also one of the I'm thinking about. You know, what
Speaker 3: you're describing with your son Nick being you know, nine
Speaker 3: or ten years old. The story that I just shared
Speaker 3: with you about Rocky being born on the first day
Speaker 3: of this movie. I mean, this movie then will always
Speaker 3: like inextricably be interwoven with him and my life and
Speaker 3: our family in that way. I mean, there's this marker
Speaker 3: in this in this beautiful.
Speaker 1: We can't tell him when he's old enough this movie.
Speaker 1: This that scene right there that when I'm saying that
Speaker 1: line you were being born or you were just born,
Speaker 1: you were five minutes older, you were fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 3: So when you're talking about when you're talking about Nick
Speaker 3: being nine, I'm like, I'm sure at nine I could
Speaker 3: probably start to share that with him. I can. So
Speaker 3: that's what I was almost envisioning for myself when you
Speaker 3: were talking about your relationship with your son is that
Speaker 3: I can't imagine like getting to do that at that point.
Speaker 1: Okay, you guys, it's you have magic every day in
Speaker 1: your life, every single day with a child. It's magic.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little thing called rapid fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do rapid fire. We're gonna do rapid fire.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you some questions.
Speaker 3: Isn't that what you've been doing? What's what's different?
Speaker 1: More? There's more questions, there's.
Speaker 3: More questions at a faster pace.
Speaker 1: These are these are Gilmore specific question. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go any faster, even though it's called rapid fire.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't go fast. We don't put that
Speaker 1: kind of pressure.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's not in keeping with the general
Speaker 3: Gilmore girl's aesthetic.
Speaker 1: Though we have gone away, we have gone away from
Speaker 1: the rapid fire aspect of the rapid fire.
Speaker 3: All right, So are you looking for shorter answers? Then?
Speaker 3: Is that what could make it rapid more rapid?
Speaker 1: You can give any answer you want. Okay, it can
Speaker 1: be short long, It doesn't matter to your game. Seat
Speaker 1: belts on, Ready to go? How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 3: Uh cream?
Speaker 1: Are your team? Logan? Jess or Team Dean if you
Speaker 1: know what that means.
Speaker 3: Was Dean Jared Patleki. Yes, wow, I don't know how
Speaker 3: I pulled out. Hey, fun fact, I did a I
Speaker 3: did a pilot with Jared Padlaki, which is I think
Speaker 3: he was the first pilot he ever did before Gilmore Girls. Really,
Speaker 3: that was where I met him originally. Uh so, No,
Speaker 3: I don't know that I can answer the question because
Speaker 3: that's he's the only one I know in that three.
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Who is your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Lorelei,
Speaker 1: Laane and Zach, Emily and Richard Suker or Jackson, Luke.
Speaker 3: And laurla thank you?
Speaker 1: What would you order?
Speaker 3: Answer?
Speaker 1: Luke's that that is that is It's there's no right answer.
Speaker 1: Uh what would you order it?
Speaker 3: Luke's diner, Alice, you have to have the diner to
Speaker 3: be able to I don't know. I don't know his die.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how good at this
Speaker 3: game I'm gonna be Scott.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not a question of good or bad.
Speaker 3: It's just no, I mean Gilmore Girls universe.
Speaker 1: Uh well, then Burger, I'd make I make Greg burgers
Speaker 1: burgen Froy.
Speaker 3: But I'm a breakfast at that time. Oh sure, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm a big I'm a big breakfast guy. So I
Speaker 3: would definitely go with with like straight up classic, you know,
Speaker 3: eggs over easy, making some super crispy hash, and maybe
Speaker 3: even a little touch is a little indulgence, a little
Speaker 3: like small ordering a French toast and or pancakes American.
Speaker 1: Breakfast Jackson or tailor for town selectmen. No idea. I
Speaker 1: don't have a club, all right, no idea. Would you
Speaker 1: rather listen to hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?
Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: The worst rapid fire you've ever done?
Speaker 1: The don't rubbing your eye?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What? What have I gotten myself into it? I wouldn't. No,
Speaker 1: I know you can answer this one. I know you
Speaker 1: can answer this ready, Harvard or Yale?
Speaker 3: I guess I gotta go. Yale's the worst?
Speaker 1: Really? Why have you been? Have you attended Yale? Have
Speaker 1: you been to Yale? Have you?
Speaker 3: Well? I did go to school. I went to Wesleyan,
Speaker 3: which is also in Connecticut. R Wesleyan is in a
Speaker 3: little town called the Middletown, and Yale's in New new
Speaker 3: And they're just, I just, I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 3: into yales. They're off.
Speaker 1: What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing her car her boyfriend built
Speaker 1: for her, or sleeping with her ex who was married,
Speaker 1: who happened to be the same person Jared.
Speaker 3: Battleki Wait, even though I don't know the context, give
Speaker 3: that to me again. She crashed her car.
Speaker 1: So Dean, So Dean built her a car. He actually
Speaker 1: made a car for her from scratch and gave it
Speaker 1: to her for her birthday.
Speaker 3: What kind of car was it?
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's like some kind of rambler whatever.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a cool car and she crashed it.
Speaker 1: And then when when when when he was married, he married,
Speaker 1: he married his wife, Lindsay, but he cheated on his
Speaker 1: wife with Rory when he was having some marriage.
Speaker 3: That's like far the worst thing. It's not even close.
Speaker 1: The the the cheating is the biggest.
Speaker 3: Mistake, right, not even it's not even close. I don't
Speaker 3: even know what caused her to crash the car.
Speaker 1: But what if she was trying to run over Dean's wife.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the first question I had was how did
Speaker 3: she crash the car?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know I don't remember who from
Speaker 1: Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on a
Speaker 1: desert island with?
Speaker 3: Who would I want to not be stuck?
Speaker 1: Would it be Emily Gilmore? Would it be Michelle or
Speaker 1: or would it be Taylor?
Speaker 3: Uh? No, I think that dude Finn.
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know, way you don't want to be
Speaker 1: with Finn.
Speaker 3: I only say that because he was the other guy
Speaker 3: in the scene. Oh, I don't know. He sounded uh,
Speaker 3: I don't know. He just sounded a litt annoying to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3: Is he a popular character?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You're like, who's Finn?
Speaker 1: No? No, he he was in the Light Light and
Speaker 1: Death Brigade and he did a couple episodes. I think
Speaker 1: he was popular. I think he was. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know something in your life you are
Speaker 1: all in on?
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean I think the most clear obvious
Speaker 3: answer is this is my little boy.
Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, all in on being a dad.
Speaker 1: I know. It's wonderful. Jordan, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time.
Speaker 3: Sorry listeners, for being the you know, the least Gilmore
Speaker 3: girls knowledgeable.
Speaker 1: It was it was a great interview. Stop it, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know you can, I mean no.
Speaker 3: I know, it's it's fun. Look at like doing that
Speaker 3: show was again at a very like formative important point
Speaker 3: in my career and in my life, and I remember
Speaker 3: it clearly, and everybody I met was cool, and like
Speaker 3: I said, seeing Maddigan recently, all of it was really special.
Speaker 3: So forgive my lack of Gilmore Girls Universe knowledge, but
Speaker 3: I do have fond, fond memories, and I'm like touched
Speaker 3: and more than grateful that you asked me to be apart.
Speaker 1: All good man, great talking to you, great meeting you,
Speaker 1: Good luck, continued success is best of Rocky and U.
Speaker 1: Ry Richelle what yeah, didn't even say?
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Speaker 3: the Internet, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You know it's I have this information in front of me. Maria,
Speaker 1: that's Rochelle de Maria's name.
Speaker 3: It's now Belfy yes.
Speaker 1: But Belfie Mario Maria.
Speaker 3: You know it's it's a good question either way. Either way,
Speaker 3: it's it's really There was actually a third way, which
Speaker 3: was Damia and I remember when we met. I asked
Speaker 3: her and she's like, whatever you whatever.
Speaker 1: Just kiss me, you full, just kissing. Uh. We all abust,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. We had a blast.
Speaker 1: And hope uh and everybody get out there and go
Speaker 1: see nefarious and thanks for your time, buddy.
Speaker 2: All right, man, hey everybody, and don't forget follow us
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