1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: I Am all in. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: You. 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: All Right, Everybody, Scott Patterson one on one interview, I 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Am All In Podcast, iHeartRadio one eleven Productions. We are 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: going to be talking to a Jordan Belfie, who played 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: the role of Jordan Chase for one episode in two 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: thousand and five. His only appearance was in season five, 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: episode eight, The Party's Over. His character was Jordan. He 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: was sent to talk to Rory at the party by Emily, 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: who told him that they were made for each other. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Logan and erupts them and thanks Jordan for keeping his 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: girl quote unquote busy. All right, A little bit about Jordan. 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: He was born in Los Angeles, California. He's an actor 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: and producer known for Entourage two thousand and four, All 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: American twenty eighteen, Grades Anatomy two thousand and five. He 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: has been married to Rochelle de Maria since October twenty seven, 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He has a young son. And we're going 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: to get to know Jordan a little better. And why 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: don't you bring him on in? Hey Jordan, Hi, Hey, 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Man. How'd you get into acting. 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 3: How did I get into acting? Well, I started actually 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: when I was a kid. I was obsessed with cinema. 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: I was always shooting movies and wrangling all the kids 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: from the neighborhood. So I was always obsessed with movies 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: and with acting. I started doing commercials actually, you know, 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: when I was a kid. But I went away to 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: film school back east. I grew up in southern Calfin 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: in LA, just outside of the you know, in the 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: suburbs outside of LA. Went to New England to school 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: to Wesleyan University. Was a film major. There was directing 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: shows and performing in shows. But I was a film major. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: And then when I came back, I really started my career. 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: I directed a your thesis film while in school that 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: got seen when I got back to LA, passed around, 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: got me picked up by the agents and managers I 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: had at the time, and then I started my career wonderful. 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: I am. DP page says that you were a camera 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: production assistant on the movie Wild Wild West. Is that true? 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: It's totally true. I was still in college at the time. I, 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: like I said, I was a film major, So I 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: was hustling and getting in and around anything that I could, 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: And I got on that movie as a in the 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: camera department, and I was a teenager and I was 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: taken in by the camera crew. It was a famous 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: director of photography named Michael Ballhaus fellows and tons of 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: Scorsese movies, story DP. I worked in his department. The 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: camera operator on that movie became like a mentor to me, 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: not only just a friend, but a mentor, and he 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: ended up shooting that that senior thesis film of mine 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: my senior year of college. And so I built this 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: amazing community of a film makers and friends who were 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: serious professionals and became mentors and it helped me generate 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: a start to my career. But yes, it's totally true. 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: And will Smith was very kind to me at the 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: at the time I was. Again, I can't say that 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: he did, but it. 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Was, it was. 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: It was a really formative point for me in terms 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: of being around it was. It was the biggest of 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: the big in terms of studio movies, and I was 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: a teenager and I was right next to camera the 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: whole time, and I took in all of it and 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: it really affected me, affected what I wanted to do, 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: but also the way in which I was going to 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: go about doing it. I absorbed everything I could from, 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: you know, the guys that were doing it at the 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: highest levels, and so I was really lucky and really 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: fortunate to be in that position and then to uh 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: to take it all in. 71 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean watching a guy like Ballhause jeez, yeah, yeah, deep, 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: He's always got me very excited. If you knew that 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: it was a top guy and you're going to be 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: working with a top guy, then everybody just kind of 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: sat back and let him light and let him do 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: his thing. 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: And although I will say, I don't want to talk 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: out of school, because again I was I was just 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: a camera assistant on that. But a guy named Barry 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: Soenfeld was directing that who famously, you know, made Men 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: in Black, you know, with and movies I loved, like 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Get Shorty and things like that. But he I could 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: even tell, and again I don't want to talk out 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: of school, but I could even tell at that point 85 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: that he and his style and Michael Bauhaus's style didn't 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: really mesh. Oh no, And unfortunately, I think it's sort 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: of like resulted in a movie that really wasn't what 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: it could have been. But in terms of the people 89 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: and the experience for me personally. 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, but Unfeld picked him or did the 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: studio just say you're working with Balhausen. 92 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: I can't. I don't know enough to be able to 93 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: say say. 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: They must have sat down. I mean they spend all 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: of that time in pre production together, you know, mapping 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: out shots and locations they were together. 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, as with anything in any kind 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: of collaborative art form, sometimes you know, it isn't until 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: you're in the thick of it that you know you 100 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: either you either line up or you don't. 101 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I know what happened. I Will Smith started just unloading 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: on both of them, right, he was just slapping people 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: all over the place. Right. 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: It isn't true, but funny, funny thought nonetheless. But yeah, 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: I mean that's why I think, even in my own career, 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: in my own life, when you find people that you 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: work with that you just that spark happens. It's a 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: sort of difficult thing to describe to people outside of it. 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: But there's an electricity, there's a sort of ineffable, you know, 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: ethereal connection that can happen that becomes a electric and 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: profound And when you find that in somebody that you're 112 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: working with, you want to work with that person over 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: and over again. It's why you see you know, you 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: know DiCaprio and Scorsese or any of these teams, or 115 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: the movie after movie after movie. You just want to 116 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: keep working. 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: With those I found that several times. But it was 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: always with the craft service food I found. 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: But equally equally is important. 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Amazing. What do you remember about your role on Gilmore Girls? 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you guys reached out about this, it 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: was it was going a minute. 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Did you even remember being on this ship? 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: Oh? No, I know. I will say, I'm not going 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: to pretend that I don't remember. You know, you try 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: to think that, oh, I'm way past that, you know. No, 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: I remember everything and everything I've ever done, and I 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: remember almost everybody I've I've ever worked with. That's the 129 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: way my mind works, and that's the way my heart works. 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: But uh, what what do I remember about it? I remember, 131 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: I remember auditioning for it. I remember in the room 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: it was a very specific thing that they said, uh 133 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: that we talked fast on this show, and that's just 134 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: the way we do it. I remember even in the 135 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: audition them telling it. It was just sort of a thing. 136 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: I think they said to any actor, any performance coming through, 137 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: this is our this is the world, this is how 138 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: we we operate. And it was very clear from moment 139 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: one that that's how they operated. The other things I remember, 140 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how much detail you want, but. 141 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I want it all, man, give it to everything. 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: Oh god, man. I remember that that they were very 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: into for characters like like you know that came through 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: for an episode like mine. They were very into using 145 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: your own name the name of the character. There was 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: something about that that I think that they thought that 147 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: gave us sort of some extra little authenticity, something little 148 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: icing on the cake. 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Well, they didn't have to clear it. 150 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: That might be a practical legal reason that I'm not 151 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: aware of, but I'm going with the artistic side. But 152 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: you might be right. I'm trying to give the creators 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: and the and and the writers. 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: That is what I do. I ruin it. I ruin it. 155 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: I just I just I'm. 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: Sure all the magic and mystery. 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I just keep my mouth shut. I'd be I'd be 158 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot better off now. 159 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Scott, It's cool. I actually I believe I believe it. 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: I believe that characters like that they. 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: It's not cool. I gotta stop rowing and stuff. Man, 162 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: No it is. It's an amazing detail. It's fraught with 163 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: artistic integrity. You used your own name. 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: I didn't use my own name. They changed the name 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: of the character. What a twist, I mean for all 166 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 3: of it. Man, the character this I couldn't tell you. 167 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember what the character was named. Prior to me, 168 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: it was something Chase, but they changed it. I showed up, 169 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: I got the script, and all of a sudden it 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: was Jordan Chase and some of the other things I remember. 171 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: I remember very distinctly waiting probably twelve hours to shoot. 172 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: It was one of those things where I remember sitting 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: in the trailer whatever schedule. The schedules like that happen 174 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: all the. 175 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Time, and you probably got the call from the you know, saying, hey, 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're just about to get to your scene. 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: You need to come back now correctly. 178 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Then you're there all day. 179 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: The reason I remember that, Scott is because I know 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm from LA but my entire childhood and life I've 181 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: been a Boston Red Sox fan. This was two thousand 182 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: and four. This was October of two thousand and four. 183 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: I remember it very specifically, this. 184 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Is when they is this the first time they won 185 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: it in a long time? Right? 186 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: This was the year that the one and while we 187 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: were shooting Gilmore Girls, the alcs between famously between the 188 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Red Sox and the Yankees where they were down three 189 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: games to zero and then came back in one fourth 190 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: straight in this miracle thing to beat the Yankees in 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: order to go the World Series. And the reason I 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: mentioned that is because I remember during those twelve hours 193 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: that I was waiting at the end of the night, 194 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: I sat in my trailer and I watched the Red 195 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: Sox lose one of those three games to the Yankees, 196 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: and it burned in my mind. And then when they 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: finally called, I went and shot that's that's stuff and 198 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls. 199 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: So you're borrowing from your own life and bringing it 200 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: into the work. 201 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: Borrowing something interesting. 202 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: From Jordan with the loss, the baseball loss. 203 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: It's true because in that scene I am I am 204 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: totally rejected. 205 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: I do lose because I remember watching the episode and 206 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you, and I said, this guy is 207 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: rising above some serious pain. Now I know what it is. 208 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: I could tell the sarcasms a little thing, A dare 209 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: you diminish that role. No. I And again, I don't 210 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: know if this is interesting to you or your your audience, 211 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 3: your listeners. But the other reason I remember that time 212 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: so specifically is because that two thousand and four, as 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: long ago as that was, it seems like a lifetime ago. 214 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: It was actually a very transfer. Well, it was kind 215 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: of an inflection point in my career because that was 216 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: also the same year that I started on Entourage. Ah, 217 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: and that changed my career. 218 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh sure, So what was the part like on Entourage? 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: What did you do on Entourage? 220 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: I played this character named Adam Davies. I was an agent. 221 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: I started out as Johnny Drama Kevin Dillon's character, his agent, 222 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: and then I grew to become a nemesis to Ari 223 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: Gold and Jerem Pimmon's character. And so I did it 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: for six years. But that year, the first was the 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: first episode that I did, And it was supposed to 226 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: only be one episode originally, but it just it became 227 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: something that grew. Deug Gallon, the creator kept writing me 228 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: in and it just became this this character on the show. 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: But that was the same time I was doing this 230 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: this Gilmore Girls, and so it's burned into my memory 231 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: for that reason as well, was that it was one 232 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: of those as an actor, you remember those moments in 233 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: your career. There are these like points along that that 234 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: graph that you're like, that's when that happened and that changed. 235 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: It was that. 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: So what do you remember about filming with with Matt 237 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Zukri and Alexis Bledel. 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that I just worked. 239 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: With Matt no on The Resident The Residence. 240 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: I just and we talked about it and it's it 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: was it's one of these things about this this business, 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful thing actually that you know, in effect, 243 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: it's a very very small business. It's a small world, 244 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: but it's an infinitely smaller business. And you know the 245 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: fact that you could circle back with somebody and reunite 246 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: and work again, you know, seventeen eighteen years later or 247 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: whatever it is, is remarkable and it's you know, it's 248 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: it's super fun. I mean I didn't I got to 249 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: be honest, I didn't get to necessarily know them super well, 250 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: you know, from coming in and doing an episode. But 251 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: everyone was cool. I mean it was fun. And you know, 252 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: for anyone that's listening that doesn't know what we're referring to. 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: What I remember is that it's basically this party, and 254 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm hitting on Rory. Is it? It's work. I've been asked 255 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: to go up by you know that she's you know, 256 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: maybe available, or at least that's what I've been told, 257 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: and I go hit on her. 258 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: And as as a young man would, as. 259 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: A young upstanding man would. 260 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't invited to the party for that very purpose. 261 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: So so Matt, you know, in the scene, Matt slides 262 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 3: in and save her from from me. As I write, 263 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: so we're big. 264 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: We're big Matt fans here at the podcast. We adore, 265 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: we adore Maddie. 266 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: He's a nice guy. 267 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: Oh, he's a terrific, terrific guy. 268 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will. And you know, I think a 269 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of times because I've you know, I've guested and 270 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: recurred on many, many, many many shows, and you're in 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: an interesting position when you're coming in to do an 272 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: episode or two or three, or do an arc on 273 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: a show like that, because you're essentially a guest in 274 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: someone else's house. And in a way I've been told, 275 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think about it this way, but 276 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, it's actually a more difficult 277 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: position to be in. 278 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: I agree, I do it. I agree with that you have. 279 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: To just sort of drop in to an already established. 280 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: World, especially that show. 281 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: Especially that show, but an already established universe that has 282 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: its own rules, its own tone, it's its own rhythms. 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: You weren't allowed to look at anybody, right, those signs 284 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: were up, don't You're. 285 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: Not allowed to look at Mad or you know, or 286 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: Alexus in the eye. I mean, those things color it. 287 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: But but you have to drop in and operate in 288 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: this way that like it's seamless with with a world 289 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: that's already established that you have no ramp up to 290 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: ease into, and so you've got to drop in and 291 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: be there. Yeah, in a way like doing a role 292 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: like that on Gilmore Girls. I mean it's, uh, you 293 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: just got to kind of you've got to execute. You 294 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: got to drop in and be there. 295 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Did you rehearse? Did you rehearse your scene? A ton 296 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: of times? That way? 297 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Personally or personally with or with with the Mad 298 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: and a Lexus? 299 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: No, I mean your like the Night Course, I mean, of. 300 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: Course, I mean you you know, you do all your 301 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: own work, and a lot of that, particularly because I'm 302 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: probably not telling you anything you don't already know, or 303 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: most of your audience doesn't already know. But the speed 304 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: of television there is zero rehearsal and so. 305 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Really well known. Well for that, I guess that kind 306 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: of a scene they didn't they didn't they didn't rehearse 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the scene. 308 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: Not just not just that kind of scene, any scene. 309 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: I mean you And what by I mean zero rehearsal. 310 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: You might do it a take or a rehearsal take 311 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: or to just to sort of you know, stage it 312 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: for for you know, the director and the crew and 313 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: they see you know your position and stuff. 314 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have to do it for camera to 315 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: get focused focused us. 316 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: You run it. You run it once or twice for 317 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: those reasons, sort of practical reason and sometimes you know, 318 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: for you to find it for a second. But you 319 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: don't have time to work it and make discoveries. And 320 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: really you're expected and and as you should be, you know, 321 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: to to be ready to go and turn it on 322 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: and execute, and television and and a lot of movies, 323 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: you don't have time for that. You you got to 324 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: be a pro and show up. And so even more 325 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: so with a scene like this, like we're not going 326 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: to rehearse, rehearse, it's like you're gonna be brought in, 327 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: You're going to drop in, You're do it once for 328 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: camera and for Marx, and then you're gonna shoot. Yeah, 329 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: particularly when they're running as far behind as they were 330 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: that night, right exactly. 331 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, You poor guys have to pay the price every 332 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: time with those big setups, in those big party scenes 333 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: they take forever. 334 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: It's a small it's a small price to pay for 335 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: that price. 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you're out in the in the real 337 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: world outside of the Hollywood bubble, are you recognized for 338 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: the Gilmore girl role? Are you recognized for the Entourage role? 339 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: What do you recognize for? 340 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 3: There are a handful, you know. Again I say this humbly, 341 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: and you know, out of complete uh gratitude for people, 342 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: you know, having appreciation for your work. It's not too 343 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: or anything like that. But yes, there are. There are 344 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: a handful of roles that I've had the wildly good 345 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: fortune to play. The people love that. People watch over 346 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: and over again and recognize me for when I'm out 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 3: and about. Probably, you know, the the biggest one is 348 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: Entourage because it has that show, you know, although it's 349 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: been off the air for a number of years now. 350 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: The fandom around that show and the way it was 351 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: a kind of again it started in two thousand and four. 352 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: HBO was the prestige game in town. It was no streaming. 353 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: HBO Sunday Nights was sacrocick. It was the prestigious night 354 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: of television. In fact, remember the whole thing HBO. It's 355 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: not TV, you know, it's HBO. 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Right. 357 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: It was that era of like just you know, Sopranos 358 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: was still on, but you know, Sex and the City 359 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: and then Entourage came. It was like zeitgeist stuff. 360 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Right, they're using swear words. 361 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, But I can't tell you how many people 362 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: love come up to me quote my own lines back 363 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: at me, want to talk about it, or tell me 364 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: about how they moved to La because of that show, 365 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: or they wanted to get into the entertainment business because 366 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: of what they saw on Enturage or whatever it was. 367 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: It was a lot of people's window kind of lyriistic 368 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: jokes on Yeah, it is really true. But you know 369 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: it's also interesting, Scott, is that when you look enough, 370 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: time passes because La itself was sort of almost another 371 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: character within the show, because it was all about Los 372 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: Angeles and it was all shot on location in and 373 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: around Los Angeles. What's amazing is when you look at 374 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: the show, now, how much of a kind of time 375 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: capsule for Los Angeles the show because unfortunately, how La 376 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: What La is sort of what's happened in La in 377 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: the past handful of years and you look back on 378 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: entraage and you see it glaringly. But anyway, to finished 379 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: answer your question, Entourage and I start in, you know, 380 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: in a Hallmark you know rom com, a kind of 381 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: you know holiday Hallmark movie. Oh really, for whatever reason, 382 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: I you know, I start in this movie. People, it's 383 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: one of the most popular Hallmark movies. 384 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: Of all time, no kidding? Who is who is your 385 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: co star? Who is the female? 386 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: A woman named Katrina Law? Okay, Katrina is now on NCIS, 387 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: but they they play it every single holiday season for 388 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: ten years. It is remarkable. And what's what's special about that? 389 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: And I'm not diminishing that genre at all, because it's 390 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: is that it because it airs every year, and it's 391 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: part of it's become a part of people's holiday traditions. 392 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: You're in their homes. You're not just in their homes, 393 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: but you're in their homes during the period that they're 394 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: most kind of with their family in that kind of 395 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: cozy place. So for for my movie, for that movie 396 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: to be a part of people's tradition and their family 397 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: time in that way, it's a really special People love 398 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: it and you know you can't help, but just you know, 399 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: be grateful for being able to be a part of that, 400 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: you know, be a part of people's lives in that way. 401 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: So those are probably the two things off the top 402 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: of my head that people recognize me the most out 403 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: and about. 404 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Got right right of course. So you played opposite Jeremy Piven. 405 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Did you get to work with him during you know, 406 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: during your scenes or did you shoot your scenes separately? 407 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: What was it like working What was it like working 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: with him? Because I know he's a he's I don't 409 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: know him, okay, but I was around him a little 410 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: bit at one point the I don't know, twenty years ago. 411 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: He's a very intense guy, right did you find him 412 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: to be? And he's a very good actor, ya, So 413 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: what tell us about that experience? Did you bring your bongos. 414 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: Bring my bonds? 415 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: He's a big into drumming? 416 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: Oh is he? I will? I will admit I didn't 417 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: know that, right. Uh, he's a very good actor, and 418 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: he brings he brings a lot of originality and instinctiveness 419 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: and energy and force to the role, and specifically that role. 420 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: I think I think everyone once in a while, every 421 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: once in a great while. I mean, in fact, I 422 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: think if it happens once, maybe twice in your career, 423 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: that you as a performer, as who you are and 424 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: a particular character just aligns so much that it sparks 425 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: why and if you and you know, a lot of 426 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: people spend their whole careers searching for that that role. 427 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: It just it's And the thing is is that there's 428 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: a good deal of it that's outside of your control, because. 429 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: You find that most of the time that role finds you. 430 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: It's a good question, you know what I mean. I 431 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: do know what you mean. I'll give you an example. 432 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm in I'm starring in a movie right now that's 433 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: in theaters. It's been in theaters for the past this 434 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: is the seventh weekend. It's the latest film that I'm 435 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: called Nefarious. It's me and Sean Patrick Flannering came. 436 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I know Sean. 437 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a terrific Yeah, and a really like a 438 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: really solid good guy. And the movie is essentially what 439 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: they call a two hander. It's really just a two 440 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: person movie. So it's just me and Sean for almost 441 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: the entirety of the film, which is insanely rare, incredibly unique, 442 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: and you just don't see movies like that anymore. And 443 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: there's it's really about performance and and and because so 444 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: who you're acting opposite is everything that that role is 445 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: one of the you know, one of the best juiciest, delicious, 446 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: rich complex roles that I've ever had the opportunity to play. 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: It's you know, and and also being released to theaters 448 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: as it is and being as successful as it is, 449 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 3: it's like had this insane run. I mean, the number 450 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: of variables that have to come together for all that 451 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: to happen is lightning in a bottle that most of 452 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 3: which you can't control. But to your point, how that 453 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: movie came to me, I'll still never. 454 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Really know, because you're in the game. 455 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: You're in the game. 456 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: You're in the game, You're you're you're you're slugging it 457 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: out every day, and you know, a lot of days 458 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: you're getting beat up real bad, and then you just 459 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: you know, you you stay in the game. You stay, 460 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: you keep punching, and stuff is going to happen. You know. 461 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: It's for me, it's always been a marathon, you know. 462 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: And it's just like the longer you stay in it 463 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: a the better you're going to get at auditioning, the 464 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: more your name's going to get out there, the more 465 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: work you're going to get come in your way, and 466 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: the more people in your category are going to retire 467 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: for one reason or another. And it's just. 468 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: It's just just wait it out. I think I think 469 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: that there is a huge amount that that that is 470 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: dead on. 471 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: That is, yeah, it keeps you keep you stay in 472 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: the game. It's you don't have to be relevant, you know. 473 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to be it's hard to become 474 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: relevant and then stay relevant, you know. But it's like 475 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: if you're in the game and you're like, hey, I'm here, 476 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm auditioning, and I'm like I'm out 477 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: there and I'm available and I'm working. I want to work. 478 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's totally. 479 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: It's the mindset. It's it's like it's your mental toughness 480 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: to hang in there, you know, I think. 481 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: But also as you said one of the important components 482 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: is that you know, you never stop working, and so 483 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: you're you're also always refining your craft and building that 484 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: experience and having that, you know, sort of the wake 485 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: of all those roles stay with you, and you bring 486 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: that to everything that you do. I mean, that's the 487 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: thing that people underestimate about not just acting, but probably 488 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: any craft, is that you're not just hiring that person 489 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: for that job. You're hiring that person also for essentially 490 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: every other job they've ever done, because all of that experience, 491 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: all of that how much they're known for all those 492 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: other roles, but all of those other roles that they've 493 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: done are a part of what their craft is and 494 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: what they're bringing to now this new role that you're 495 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: hiring them for. And I definitely think that's true for me, 496 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: and everything that you just said is true for how 497 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: I've built my career. It's been a total marathon. I mean, 498 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: we're talking about me starting on Entourage. That was in 499 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: two thousand and four, that's almost twenty years ago, and 500 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: I've never stopped. And so you're right, like, this role 501 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: in Nefarious is the name of the movie. I didn't 502 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: audition for it, came to me, and just on a 503 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: personal note, you know, I've shared this in some of 504 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: the press and stuff I've done for that movie. But 505 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: when that movie came to me, I had to make 506 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: a decision. And my wife was nine and a half 507 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: months pregnant. 508 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: This was gonna be my next question. 509 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: So I had to make a decision because I knew 510 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: that if I took that movie, I was almost guaranteed 511 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: to miss the birth of my first born, and in fact, 512 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: I did miss the birth of my firstborn son, not 513 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: just my firstborn son, my first born and so he 514 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: was born, as I shared, on day one of shooting. 515 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: That movie, and you were out of town. 516 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: I was out of town. 517 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: How far away were you. 518 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: In Oklahoma City? 519 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: You're in Oklahoma and she was here in La. 520 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: I went to bed. She went into labor the night 521 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: before day one of that movie, a movie in which 522 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: I was in every moment of the entire movie. So 523 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: like I was describing a two person movie, it was 524 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: this massive endeavor that lay before me that I was 525 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: about to embark on. And the night before starting that 526 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: my wife went into labor. So I went to bed 527 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: that night, knowing I was starting the movie in the morning, 528 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: and my wife was in labor. I got up in 529 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: the morning. I went to set, which was this real 530 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: penitentiary where we were shooting at. I went through hair 531 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: and makeup, I got to my trailer, I got into wardrobe, 532 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: and I got the text from my mother in law, 533 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: her mom, that he had just been born. And I 534 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: facetimed and my little boy, and again. 535 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: This is my first Did you cry? 536 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 3: I was trying not to because I was in makeup, 537 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: but it was impossible not to. I mean, I'm looking 538 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: at I'm facetiming. He's ninety seconds old. He's on my 539 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: wife's chest and I'm looking at him. And as cliche 540 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: as I'm sure it sounds to anybody that doesn't have kids, 541 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: it really is this out of body moment and I'm 542 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: looking at this being and he's an alien, but he's 543 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: also and I'm having that moment. And then right in 544 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 3: that moment, Knock Knock Jordan were ready, and so I 545 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: had to hang up and want to go do the 546 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: first shot of the movie. 547 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: And what was do you remember? You you remember the 548 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: scene that you had to do? 549 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: It was it wasn't it wasn't an intense thing. It 550 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: was this driving scene, but I went, but nobody knew, 551 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: nobody on the movie right now. 552 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: You don't wanna, You don't want to tell them like, hey, 553 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I just my you know. And then well 554 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: the other thing is the producers like, hey, you know, 555 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: why did you do that? You're causing all these delays, 556 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: it's costing all this money. 557 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: I think it was mostly because they probably were would 558 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: have been horrified that I would just leave and just 559 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: take off, and that they couldn't probably tell me no, 560 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: because you know, and and I'm sure there's probably a 561 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: lot of people that understandably would have just said, I'm 562 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: out of here. I gotta go. 563 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: That's a tough call because you know, it's like that's 564 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: long term security for your family, and that job is 565 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: definitely some security, but you don't know what that job 566 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: is gonna lead to, could lead to much bigger and 567 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: better things. 568 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: Never know. And that's, by the way, and that wasn't 569 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: the only thing. It's not like I did. It's not 570 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: like I told my wife this is what I'm doing. 571 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: No matter what you think, I'm leaving. 572 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Don't care. You go have your baby. I'm gonna go 573 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: do my acting career. 574 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: No, we we you know, this was a this was 575 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: a deep intimate decision that we came to together and 576 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: we decided as a family it was best for us 577 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: and best for our family, like you just said, long term, 578 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: and so I have every intention of being there the 579 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: next time. 580 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a it's a tough it's just 581 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: such a tough call, but you gotta do you know, 582 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: you gotta do the right thing for the family. You 583 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: can't be wrong in that situation. If you're there, that's 584 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: the right decision. If you're not there and you do 585 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: the movie, and that's the right decision too. So it's 586 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: like there's both decisions are correct because you'll. 587 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: Never know, you'll never know what Domino's like will be 588 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: set in motion from as a result of each position. 589 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: No, no, seriously, and they could be great movies and 590 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: they could be you know, could be good for everybody. 591 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: Your hundred sent Okay, I'll share one little thing if 592 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: you're interested, one other little part of that which feeds 593 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: into what you just said for me personally, and again 594 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: you can some of it, I know are things that 595 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: we when we say we see signs, you know, I 596 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: know that there's probably an argument to be made. It's 597 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: it's about what we want to see or what we're 598 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: projecting onto it or the rest. But I will say 599 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 3: that this one story that I have shared with with 600 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: certain people. My son's name is Rocky. That's what we 601 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: named him. And we had already named him, you know, 602 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 3: by the time I left for Oklahoma City. And I 603 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: got to Oklahoma City, which is a city I'd never been, 604 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: and I was staying in a hotel I didn't choose, 605 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: but I got there on that Sunday night. He was 606 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: born that Wednesday. But I got there that Sunday night 607 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: and I got to my hotel and I got up 608 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: to the room and I was I remember thinking I 609 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: was torn up about about it. And I remember getting 610 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: to the room and I was standing there, I was alone, 611 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: and I said to myself, what the hell am I doing? 612 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: What am I doing? I'm in Oklahoma City. My wife 613 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: is two thousand miles away, you know, about to give birth. 614 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: What what am I doing? This is crazy? And so, 615 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: you know, I was feeling that, and I was like, 616 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just going to go for a walk. 617 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna clear my head. I'm 618 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: just gonna go for a walk. I put my bag down, 619 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 3: I walked out of the hotel. I turned right. I 620 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: walked a block and I looked up and there was 621 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: a gigantic sign that said Rocky right next to where 622 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: I was staying. A literal sign. Obviously the figure it 623 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: out expected self explanatory, but a literal sign. I've never 624 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: seen a sign that says that says Rocky. It it 625 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: was a venue. It was like a bar, you know, 626 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: you know, music venue kind of thing. And I you 627 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: have this moment where I remember thinking, okay, I'm maybe 628 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay. Then Scott I go to set 629 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: and my stunt coordinator on the movie, Sylvester Stallone's double 630 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: like twenty years who did the movies? Impossible just impossible, 631 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, whatever you believe, whatever you believe in, okay, 632 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: it's okay that I'm here. And it gave me a 633 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: certain sense of peace that I was that it was 634 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: okay at least for me. 635 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Amazing, Yeah, what are you working on Now's? First of all, 636 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: how old is Rocky now? 637 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: He is now seventeen months, He's. 638 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Just seventeen months. He's still a little little nut guy. 639 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: He's uh, he and he's I mean, you have I 640 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: have any kids. 641 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Yet, I just have I just have Nick. He's he's 642 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: going to be nine years old early June. 643 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: So you have a little boy. I mean you can 644 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: remember if you remember that far back. I'm sure you do. 645 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: Although everybody says the same thing to the point where 646 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: you're like, yay, I get it that. You know, everyone 647 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: says enjoyed, it goes. 648 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: Fast, enjoyed it goes It really does. 649 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: But I know, and you hear it and you know 650 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 3: it intellectually and you're like, yeah, yeah, I get it, 651 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 3: and then it's totally true. Right. 652 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: But you know, he's when he starts getting older, like 653 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: he just starts getting six, seven, eight, you know, and 654 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna have full on conversations with him, and man, 655 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna think back and like, God, it just seems 656 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: like yesterday he was this. It's just this cute little 657 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: bundle of you know, and it's just it blows your mind. Yeah, 658 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: it goes fast. It's almost the decade, and I just 659 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: it seems like it just happened. 660 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm already feeling that he's only eighteen months old. 661 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: I can't even imagine when when he's nine and I 662 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 3: can have full on conversations. 663 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's amazing, it's it's it's a mirror 664 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: every single day is And I've said this before. You know, 665 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: people and and and they can they can have their 666 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: own definitions about what the meaning of life is. I 667 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: discovered what the meaning of life is as minute he 668 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: was born, and then I went, oh, that's what it is. 669 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: Got it, full hard, clear eyes, right, all of. 670 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: A sudden, Absolutely, no, it's true. I mean, uh, all 671 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're you're you're outside of yourself. You know, 672 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: there's there's something so much bigger than than you, there's 673 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: something so much more important. And I think that's probably 674 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, one of the most important keys to life 675 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: is that, is that there the target is outside of yourself. 676 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, always is it. 677 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: It always is. And when you become a parent, it's 678 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: the most tangible embodiment of that. It's the most tangible 679 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: representation of that because you know, before you become a parent, 680 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: you don't realize what you would do, what you'd sacrifice, 681 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: what you'd sacrifice, you know, right with yourself for another. 682 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: That becomes very clear. 683 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it first starts, at least for me personally. 684 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: I want to speak for everybody else, but that first 685 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: started the moment I got married and I become you know, 686 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: then there's that because at first it goes you, and 687 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 3: then and then your spouse and then your children. But man, 688 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: it is uh. And so by the way that that's 689 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: also one of the I'm thinking about. You know, what 690 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: you're describing with your son Nick being you know, nine 691 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: or ten years old. The story that I just shared 692 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: with you about Rocky being born on the first day 693 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: of this movie. I mean, this movie then will always 694 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: like inextricably be interwoven with him and my life and 695 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: our family in that way. I mean, there's this marker 696 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: in this in this beautiful. 697 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: We can't tell him when he's old enough this movie. 698 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: This that scene right there that when I'm saying that 699 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: line you were being born or you were just born, 700 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: you were five minutes older, you were fifteen minutes old. 701 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 3: So when you're talking about when you're talking about Nick 702 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: being nine, I'm like, I'm sure at nine I could 703 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: probably start to share that with him. I can. So 704 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: that's what I was almost envisioning for myself when you 705 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 3: were talking about your relationship with your son is that 706 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: I can't imagine like getting to do that at that point. 707 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you guys, it's you have magic every day in 708 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: your life, every single day with a child. It's magic. 709 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little thing called rapid fire. Yeah, 710 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna do rapid fire. We're gonna do rapid fire. 711 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you some questions. 712 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: Isn't that what you've been doing? What's what's different? 713 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: More? There's more questions, there's. 714 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: More questions at a faster pace. 715 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: These are these are Gilmore specific question. I'm not going 716 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: to go any faster, even though it's called rapid fire. 717 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't go fast. We don't put that 718 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: kind of pressure. 719 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 3: I feel like that's not in keeping with the general 720 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 3: Gilmore girl's aesthetic. 721 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: Though we have gone away, we have gone away from 722 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: the rapid fire aspect of the rapid fire. 723 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: All right, So are you looking for shorter answers? Then? 724 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: Is that what could make it rapid more rapid? 725 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: You can give any answer you want. Okay, it can 726 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: be short long, It doesn't matter to your game. Seat 727 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: belts on, Ready to go? How do you like your coffee? 728 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 3: Uh cream? 729 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: Are your team? Logan? Jess or Team Dean if you 730 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: know what that means. 731 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: Was Dean Jared Patleki. Yes, wow, I don't know how 732 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: I pulled out. Hey, fun fact, I did a I 733 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: did a pilot with Jared Padlaki, which is I think 734 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: he was the first pilot he ever did before Gilmore Girls. Really, 735 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: that was where I met him originally. Uh so, No, 736 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: I don't know that I can answer the question because 737 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: that's he's the only one I know in that three. 738 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Who is your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Lorelei, 739 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: Laane and Zach, Emily and Richard Suker or Jackson, Luke. 740 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: And laurla thank you? 741 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: What would you order? 742 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: Answer? 743 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: Luke's that that is that is It's there's no right answer. 744 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: Uh what would you order it? 745 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: Luke's diner, Alice, you have to have the diner to 746 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: be able to I don't know. I don't know his die. 747 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how good at this 748 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: game I'm gonna be Scott. 749 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: No, no, it's not a question of good or bad. 750 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: It's just no, I mean Gilmore Girls universe. 751 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Uh well, then Burger, I'd make I make Greg burgers 752 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: burgen Froy. 753 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 3: But I'm a breakfast at that time. Oh sure, okay, 754 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: I'm a big I'm a big breakfast guy. So I 755 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: would definitely go with with like straight up classic, you know, 756 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: eggs over easy, making some super crispy hash, and maybe 757 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: even a little touch is a little indulgence, a little 758 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: like small ordering a French toast and or pancakes American. 759 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: Breakfast Jackson or tailor for town selectmen. No idea. I 760 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: don't have a club, all right, no idea. Would you 761 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: rather listen to hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs? 762 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm talking about? 763 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: The worst rapid fire you've ever done? 764 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: The don't rubbing your eye? 765 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 3: Like? 766 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: What? What have I gotten myself into it? I wouldn't. No, 767 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I know you can answer this one. I know you 768 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: can answer this ready, Harvard or Yale? 769 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 3: I guess I gotta go. Yale's the worst? 770 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: Really? Why have you been? Have you attended Yale? Have 771 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: you been to Yale? Have you? 772 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 3: Well? I did go to school. I went to Wesleyan, 773 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 3: which is also in Connecticut. R Wesleyan is in a 774 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: little town called the Middletown, and Yale's in New new 775 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: And they're just, I just, I don't know. I'm not 776 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 3: into yales. They're off. 777 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing her car her boyfriend built 778 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: for her, or sleeping with her ex who was married, 779 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: who happened to be the same person Jared. 780 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 3: Battleki Wait, even though I don't know the context, give 781 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: that to me again. She crashed her car. 782 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: So Dean, So Dean built her a car. He actually 783 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: made a car for her from scratch and gave it 784 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: to her for her birthday. 785 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 3: What kind of car was it? 786 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's like some kind of rambler whatever. 787 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: It was kind of a cool car and she crashed it. 788 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: And then when when when when he was married, he married, 789 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: he married his wife, Lindsay, but he cheated on his 790 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: wife with Rory when he was having some marriage. 791 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: That's like far the worst thing. It's not even close. 792 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: The the the cheating is the biggest. 793 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 3: Mistake, right, not even it's not even close. I don't 794 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: even know what caused her to crash the car. 795 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: But what if she was trying to run over Dean's wife. 796 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's the first question I had was how did 797 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 3: she crash the car? 798 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know I don't remember who from 799 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on a 800 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: desert island with? 801 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: Who would I want to not be stuck? 802 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: Would it be Emily Gilmore? Would it be Michelle or 803 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: or would it be Taylor? 804 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: Uh? No, I think that dude Finn. 805 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know, way you don't want to be 806 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: with Finn. 807 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 3: I only say that because he was the other guy 808 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: in the scene. Oh, I don't know. He sounded uh, 809 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. He just sounded a litt annoying to me. 810 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, I got you, I got you. 811 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: Is he a popular character? 812 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. 813 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 3: You're like, who's Finn? 814 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: No? No, he he was in the Light Light and 815 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: Death Brigade and he did a couple episodes. I think 816 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: he was popular. I think he was. I mean, I don't. 817 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't really know something in your life you are 818 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: all in on? 819 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean I think the most clear obvious 820 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,959 Speaker 3: answer is this is my little boy. 821 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, all in on being a dad. 822 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: I know. It's wonderful. Jordan, thank you so much for 823 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: your time. 824 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: Sorry listeners, for being the you know, the least Gilmore 825 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 3: girls knowledgeable. 826 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: It was it was a great interview. Stop it, I mean, 827 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: you know you can, I mean no. 828 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 3: I know, it's it's fun. Look at like doing that 829 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: show was again at a very like formative important point 830 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 3: in my career and in my life, and I remember 831 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 3: it clearly, and everybody I met was cool, and like 832 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 3: I said, seeing Maddigan recently, all of it was really special. 833 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 3: So forgive my lack of Gilmore Girls Universe knowledge, but 834 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: I do have fond, fond memories, and I'm like touched 835 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 3: and more than grateful that you asked me to be apart. 836 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: All good man, great talking to you, great meeting you, 837 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: Good luck, continued success is best of Rocky and U. 838 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: Ry Richelle what yeah, didn't even say? 839 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: Do you look? I guess everything. I guess. That's called 840 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: the Internet, isn't it. 841 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: You know it's I have this information in front of me. Maria, 842 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: that's Rochelle de Maria's name. 843 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 3: It's now Belfy yes. 844 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: But Belfie Mario Maria. 845 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 3: You know it's it's a good question either way. Either way, 846 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: it's it's really There was actually a third way, which 847 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 3: was Damia and I remember when we met. I asked 848 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: her and she's like, whatever you whatever. 849 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 1: Just kiss me, you full, just kissing. Uh. We all abust, 850 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. We had a blast. 851 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: And hope uh and everybody get out there and go 852 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: see nefarious and thanks for your time, buddy. 853 00:45:35,040 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: All right, man, hey everybody, and don't forget follow us 854 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email 855 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com. 856 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: Oh you're Gilmore fans. If you're looking for the best 857 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: cup of coffee in the world, go to my website 858 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: from my company, Scottip dot com s C O T 859 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: y P dot com, Scottip dot com Grade one Specialty 860 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: Coffee