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We have an amazing show for everybody today, 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: and of course it is Memorial Day, so we are 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: thinking about those that we lost in all of the 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: wars in American history, so our thoughts very much with 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: them and with our families to stay. But Crystal, what 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: do we have today? Lots of big updates continuing to 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: come out regarding that horrific mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas. 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, every day that goes by, we learn about 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: more on cost suitable failures or lies that were told 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: to us from the beginning. Actually some admissions of just 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: how catastrophically bad the response was there, So we'll get 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: into all of that. There's also then the political fallout 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: politicians how they are responding to that. The President, the 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: first Lady made a trip down to Texas in response. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: We've got some new pulling about gun safety measures and 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: what the public might support in that regard. Pretty interesting numbers. 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: The Parson breakdown is also a little bit surprising, maybe 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a little bit different than you would think. We're also 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: learning that the Justice Department is not going to charge 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: those FBI agents who completely drop the ball on that 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: NASA investigation, pushing it off, allowing him to go on 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: and continue to victimize women and girls. Horrific outcome to 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: this story. So we'll have got those details for you, 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: and a little bit of friendly fire between some Fox 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: News personalities. We'll bring you that as well as there's 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a you know, some people who just want to say 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: whatever law enforcement to it's fine. Others are saying, hold 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: on a second, this was not good whatsoever. So we'll 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: tell you about that. And also, guys, we are celebrating 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a big anniversary here at Breaking Points. This week is 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: one year since the launch of the launch of the show, 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: so we want to take a little bit of time, 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: first of all, to say thank you to you guys, 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: and also to tell you everything that we've tried to 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: build this year, what our plans are going forward. So 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: we'll save that for the end of the show, but 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: we did want to start with the very latest from 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: that mass shooting in Texas. Authorities now admitting that law 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: enforcement made the wrong call by waiting upwards of an 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: hour to even try to breach the door that those 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: that the madman was behind locked into a classroom, massacring children. 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to a little bit of that 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: press conference from last week. Doude Hey, okay, hey, hey, 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: with the benefit of pay, with a benefit of hindsight, Hey, 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: the benefit of pay stand by, stand by, hey, stand by, hey, 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: stand by right, I've got it, I got it, okay, hey, 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: from the benefit of hindsight where I'm sitting now. Of course, 60 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: it was another right decision. It was the wrong decision period. 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: There's no excuse for that. Thank you for doing this, 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: and I do hope you stay here and take as 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: many questions as possible. You say there were nineteen officers 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: gathered in the hallway or somewhere, What efforts were made 65 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: to try and break through that door you say it 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: was locked. What efforts were the officers making to try 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and break through either that door or another door to 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: get inside that classroom. None? At that time, the unseen 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: commander at the time believed that it had transitioned from 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: an active shooter to a barricaded subject. So there were 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: nineteen cops standing outside of the door of those classrooms 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: where those kids were being murdered, where they were bleeding 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: to death, in desperate need of medical care. They did 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: not even try to breach the door. And as you see, 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they can't even defend it. They can't even 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: try to defend it. Same guy who was super triumphant, 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, the day after, he's like, law enforcement, thank 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: you for it. He's also the one who to all 79 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: of us, Crystal. Steve McCraw, he's the director of Texas 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Public Safety. He said that there was an active shooter 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: in Garrett, that there was a school resource officer engage 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: that shooter. What do we know now? So resource officers 83 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: not even on the scene. And that's just one. I 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: can't even keep track of all the lies now in 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: this story, but that one example of what the hell 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: was happening with the school resource officer. We literally got 87 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: four different versions of the story. First, the school resource 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: officer was there on the scene, he was chasing they 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: exchanged gunfire. Then he chased him into the building, but 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: there was no gunfire. Then well, he didn't chase them 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: into the building, but he was there, and then finally 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: we come to learn he wasn't even there at the school. 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just one example of the lies that 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: we were told about this thing from the beginning. And 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of a sense that they've 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: realized they've screwed this thing up so badly that they 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: can't do anything else but admit, yeah, maybe we should 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: have gone in and not waited an hour. And by 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the way, they would have waited longer. Border Control finally 100 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: said screw this, we're going in and we're taking this guy. Guys. 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: But because we've been lied to so much about this response, 102 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: I certainly don't feel like even now we have the 103 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: whole story various news outlets, I don't get to this 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: in just a minute, have been trying to piece together, 105 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: based on eyewitness accounts, videos that were posted online, surveillance footage, 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: what the authorities are actually saying, trying to piece together 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: the timeline of how and when this all went down, 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and the details are just unconscionable. But you know, maybe 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: one of the most honest things we heard out of 110 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: all of the spin is the real reason they didn't 111 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: go in, why they were afraid that they were going 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: to get shot. This is a spokesperson with the Texas 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Department of Public Safety being pressed on CNN. Take a listen, 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: correct the active shooter situation. You want to stop the killing, 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: you want to preserve live But also one thing that, 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: of course the American people you need to understand is 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: that officers are making entry into this building. They do 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: not know where the gunman is. They are hearing gunshots, 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: they are receiving gun shots at that point. If they 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: if they proceeded any further, not knowing where this suspect 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: was at, they could have been shot. They could have 122 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: been killed, and at that point that gunman would have 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kill other people inside that school. Everything 124 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: else is just spit and rationalization. They were scared that 125 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: they were afraid that you're going to be going deep 126 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: in your monologue, which is that they violated the basic 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: tenets of active shooter training. They tell you, no matter what, 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: if you are the first person on the scene, even 129 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: if you were the only person on the scene. They say, 130 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: in know, in certain terms, you have to put your 131 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: life on the line in order to save children. And 132 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, I really hope. Look, I put this out there, 133 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: which is, I'm sympathetic to anybody who doesn't want to 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: do that. But that's a decision to make before you 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: become a cop, not after you become the cop, and 136 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: federal agents basically have to mount a coup against the 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: on site commander and say, you know what, you're full 138 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: of it. We're all going in. And that timeline you 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: alluded to came out yesterday. Let's put this up there 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: on the screen where they talk about seventy eight long minutes. 141 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: This thing, guys, I mean, it is brutal to read 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: because it just goes minute by minute. It shows video 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: sen it shows quotes of police officers who are keeping 144 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: parents out of the school. You have parents who are 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: begging the police officers in order to go in. They 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: describe the multiple long minutes, somewhere around forty minutes Crystal 147 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: that nineteen officers were in the hallway being held up 148 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: before being able to go inside it. I mean, the 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: one I just can't get out of my heads is 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: a little girl who's inside the classroom who makes three 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: separate nine to one one calls in which she asks 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: and says police, send the police in. She can hear 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: the police ask them to come in. You know. Also 154 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: there's a report now that actually from one of the 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: children who was in the in the room. Just to 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: give you an idea of how screwed up the situation is, 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: is that they said, hey, if anybody needs help, yell help. Kid, 158 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: yell's help. Gunman is still alive, comes over and shoots 159 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: that kid and actually kills him. So you have a 160 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: boxed response, not only in terms of the initial contact, 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: it is clear also that the hold up on that 162 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: costs lives. There's one of the spin that they're going 163 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: to try and put out. There's like, well, everybody was 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: already dead. Apparently that was the justification for the on 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: site commander. Now I did some digging into this on 166 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: site commander. It is not the Uvaldi Police Department. Uvalde 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: ISD Independent School District has its own police department. The 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: chief of that police department, which has six officers, yes six, 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: basically very inexperience. That was the guy who was in charge. 170 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: And he's the one who made all these idiot calls 171 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: and held up Border Patrol and all these other tactical 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: units from even going on inside. So clearly he's a 173 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, not just a fool. Frankly, I think you 174 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: should go to prison, but both the laws worked out. Also, 175 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: interesting side note, he actually was just elected to the 176 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: city council. That dude. Oh my god. And I don't 177 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: think he's been sworn in yet, but yeah, he's elected 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: to the city council. And while certainly the bulk of 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the blame falls on him since he made that decision, 180 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, making this excuse of oh, it's not an 181 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: active shooter anymore. This more came to a hostage situation 182 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: and we just assumed everybody was dead. Well, you're getting 183 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: nine one one calls in from the room one little 184 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: girls you mentioned multiple times, but there were multiple phone 185 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: calls placed from inside that room saying please help us. 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: So you know, for a fact there are people who 187 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: are alive in that room, not to mention. I mean, gods, 188 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: the reports are so horrific. To imagine one little girl 189 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: who survived by smearing herself in the blood of her 190 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: friends and pretending to be dead. The friend she was 191 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: laying on top of was initially breathing, and then because 192 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: the response was so long, she's not able to get 193 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: medical care. She died. I mean, you had kids who 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: might have been saved, who bled out on that classroom floor. 195 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Because from that timeline, the gunmen entered the building at 196 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: eleven thirty three, two minutes later, three police officers enter. 197 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: They don't take him out until twelve fifty, an hour 198 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: and twenty minutes. And as you said, Saber, they're training 199 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: guidance that they're supposed to be following that they were 200 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: well trained on. They had multiple recent active shooter drills. 201 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: This school system at all the latest in terms of 202 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: surveillance technology. They had dedicated additional resources to this school. 203 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: District police department six officers across all of their schools. 204 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: The very first thing that that manual tells you is 205 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the number one goal is stop the killing. They say 206 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: in no uncertain terms. Because of the nature of this response, 207 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: because of how important it is that you stop the 208 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: k of innocent civilians as quickly as possible. It is 209 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: very likely you may be the only one on the scene. 210 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Well here they were lucky. They had three police officers there, 211 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: and still they don't act that revelation that they did 212 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: not even try to get in the door. I just 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about that. And you know, 214 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the one story I really can't get my head around 215 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: is there's that woman who was a mother who was 216 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: placed in handcuffs, who was placed in handcuffs by federal 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: marshals on the scene. Then she was, you know, let go. 218 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: Then she had time to run into the school. Well 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: it turns out she wasn't just some local mom, Crystal. 220 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: She heard about the shooting, drove forty miles, so she 221 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: had the time to drive, hear about the shooting, drive 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: forty miles, get placed in handcuffs, get out of handcuffs, 223 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: run into the school, save her own kids. Well, I 224 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell these federal marshals are doing 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: all during the time before this gunman is actually killed 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: by police. So you have now verified by the way 227 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: a father was taised by police officers were trying to 228 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: go get his own kids. A mom was placed in 229 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: handcuffs by federal marshals. Also, these feds, you know, what 230 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: are you doing? Like once again, you guys are on 231 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: scene keeping moms out of the school to go get 232 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: their own kids, because apparently you're not doing good enough job. 233 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Well and also this gunman is still alive during this 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: entire time. Well, and here's the thing. The reason the 235 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: parents were so desperate to go in and get is 236 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: because they weren't doing it. They need they could see it. 237 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: You know, if you are actively engaged trying to take 238 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: this guy, I can understand you don't want parents coming in, 239 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: and of course because not safe for them. It confuses 240 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the situation. But when you're standing around nineteen dudes in 241 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the hallway doing jack shit, yeah, of course, if you're 242 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: a parent, of course you're going to do everything you 243 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: can to go in and get your kids. And how 244 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: about this detail that was also revealed, So not only 245 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: is the school resource officer not exchanging gunfire with the 246 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: gunman going in, not actually there on site whatsoever. When 247 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: he arrives, he chased a teacher that he was confused 248 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: thought was the shooter, which also shows you. I mean, 249 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had a school resource officer 250 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: in your high school growing up. I did as well. 251 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean he knew all of us, like he was 252 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: there every day. We all had, you know, a relationship. 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: But he certainly knew all the teachers. So there are continues. 254 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: I continue to have a lot of questions. Another question 255 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: I have is, you know, the the gunman kills, doesn't kill, 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: shoots his grandmother in the face. She and the neighbors 257 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: call nine to one one. That house was very close 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: to the school school. He should be immediately lockdown. When 259 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: you know you have a gunman on the loose within 260 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: a mile of the school, that should have been an 261 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: immediate lockdown. So I have a question about that as well. 262 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there is so much here still I think 263 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: that is being covered up and that we don't know. 264 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: We are learning more about, you know, concerning behavior from 265 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: the gunman before all of this happened. Let's go ahead 266 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: and put ABC News up on the screen. They say 267 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: they spoke with over a dozen people who say the 268 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Texas gun and sent them concerning messages online in the 269 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: days leading up to the shooting. A little bit of 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: this we've covered but you know, it seemed to be 271 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: messaging a bunch of kind of random girls and women 272 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: that he barely knew, sending them pictures of this gun 273 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: and saying things like I've got a surprise for you 274 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: and I can't tell you yet. Another thing that was 275 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: really creepy that he kept telling people is, you know, 276 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: if you if you follow me or you add me, 277 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to make you famous. Making some comments like that, 278 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: threatened to rape people online. I mean, all kinds of 279 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: concerning behavior behavior here ahead of this horrific shooting. It's 280 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: also come out that he had asked his sister to 281 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: buy him a gun. The sister had refused, So clearly, 282 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, every interaction that people had with this dude, 283 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: they knew that there was something that was really off here. Yeah, 284 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and look, you know, for the family, there's 285 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: still a lot of questions here. I mean, in terms 286 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: of his personal interactions, it looks he clearly had a 287 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: screwed up home life. His mom was a drug addict, 288 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: his own grandma was trying to evict the mother. But 289 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, with the sister, apparently with his uncle, he'd 290 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: been on hunting and shooting spreeze. You know with that, 291 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: there's still not a lot that's come out. His own 292 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: father has come out and said, oh, this is not 293 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: who my little boy was. Like yeah, okay in terms 294 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: of how the family is looking to spin it, and 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: I think those people have a lot to answer for 296 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: in terms of why exactly there were no reports there 297 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: same you know, this streaming. I don't know what this 298 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: thing is, you bo. It's like a social network for streamer. 299 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm showing my age here, but basically people Okay, all right, 300 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: so there's gamers and it's like a social network for 301 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: people who live stream gaming. Okay, you know, makes I 302 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: guess enough sense. But he was meeting people on this 303 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: website and had told multiple of them they basically was 304 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: planning on carrying out of school shooting enough so that 305 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: he was reported also on the site, like users who 306 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: were gaming with him reported some of his concerning behavior. 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: So I also have a lot of questions for you Bo. 308 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you flag any of these law enforcement? 309 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the ultimate question here is 310 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: how well known was he law enforcement prior to all 311 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: of this. We know for certain that law enforcement visited 312 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: his house on multiple occasions, you know, given the fact 313 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: that so many of these school shooters have previous interactions 314 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: or not even school shooters, mass shooters have previous interactions 315 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: with law enforcement. With FBI, we have to know whether 316 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: they had an open file, a case, a tip, anything 317 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: that they can go back and they can crawl through. 318 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: So that's a major one that we have here. In 319 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the final detail, which is just so insane here on 320 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: the police you know, you found this. I can't get 321 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: my hand around those put it up there on the screen, 322 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: which is that officials say that law enforcement entities now 323 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: across the state have actually been called in by the 324 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Uvaldi police because not just to supplement their police force, 325 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: but to provide protection to the officers and the mayor 326 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: following the heavy criticism and the threats. And look, I'm 327 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, feed the beast here, but you know, 328 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: the actual incident commander on the scene has not been 329 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: seen in several days since the actual response here, and 330 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, apparently he's receiving a lot of heavy criticism threats. 331 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, there's just a hell of a lot 332 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: of irony Crystal that whenever they need help they have 333 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: to call in the cavalry. And again I'm not endorsing anything, 334 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: and I don't you know, look, let the process play out, etc. 335 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: But just pretty amazing. It's like when they need help, 336 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: when they need support, oh yeah, then people are coming 337 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: in order to guard them, but whenever little kids needed them, oh, 338 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: they're standing out in the hallway doing absolutely nothing. Yeah, 339 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: they're getting the backup that those kids never got. I mean, 340 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I think we were talking before we started the show, 341 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and I will never be over this. And I think 342 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: the reason this has touched such a nerve with the 343 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: nation is not just because of the horrific loss of 344 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: these young lives, but the thought of how they were 345 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: abandoned by the people who were supposed to help them. 346 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: You know, there was one little girl who I was reading, 347 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: said to her family, you know, why did they do 348 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: this to us? We're good kids. There they are in 349 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the room hiding, calling nine one, please help us, and 350 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: no one for over an hour came to their rescue. 351 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: And it's just it's just horrific. It's just horrific. There's 352 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: just no other words to put to it. I think 353 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: that's right. Let's go ahead and move on to the 354 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: fall out segment, because this is important. This has touched 355 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: such a nerve that there is overwhelming political pressure in 356 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Texas and across the nation of Hey, we need heads 357 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: on a spike here in terms of who exactly is 358 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: responsible for abandoning these children. And the governor has now 359 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: found himself especially in a tough spot because he was 360 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: on the days praising law enforcement the day after saying 361 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: we are so thankful to them. You know, Steve McCraw 362 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: is telling us all of these lies. Well now he's 363 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: coming out and saying, look, I was misled. And just 364 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: compare his tone to from the beginning where he thanks 365 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: law enforcement to the way that he's talking about now 366 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: just showing the overwhelming padical pressure, you know, back in 367 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: my home state in order to find the people who 368 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: are responsible and hold them accountable. Let's take a listen 369 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: and then may emphasize something that I know you all know. 370 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: But the reality is as horrible as what happened, It 371 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: could have been worse. The reason it was not worse 372 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: is because law enforcement officials did what they do. They 373 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire for the singular 374 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: purpose of trying to save lives. And it is a 375 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: fact that because of their quick response, getting on the scene, 376 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunmen. 377 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: They were able to save lives. Unfortunately not enough. Short answer, Yes, 378 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: I was misled. I am livid about what happened. I 379 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: was on this very stage two days ago, and I 380 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: was telling the public information that had been told to 381 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: me in a room just a few yards behind where 382 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: we're located right now. I wrote down hand notoes in 383 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: detail about what everybody in that room told me, in 384 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: sequential order, about what happened. And when I came out 385 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: here on this stage and told the public what happened, 386 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: it was a recitation of what people in that room 387 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: told me, whether it be law enforcement officials or non 388 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: law enforcement officials, whatever the case may be. And as 389 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: everybody has learned, the information that I was given turned 390 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: out in part to be inaccurate. And I'm absolutely livid 391 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: about that major change in tone there, Crystal. You know 392 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: the immediate thing, you know, being emotional there about law 393 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: enforcement now saying I'm absolutely livid. But listen, you know 394 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: it's nice to be livid, but what I want to 395 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: know is what the hell are you going to do 396 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: about it? And to be honest, this does not inspire confidence. 397 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: The next move, let's put this up there on the screen, 398 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: which is that the Justice Department is going to review 399 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: the law enforcement response to the Uvaldi mass shooting. Now, 400 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean that sounds nice, but what do you see 401 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: there on the bottom ticker, which is that we're going 402 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: to do an entire story today about how the Justice 403 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Department is not going to charge the FBI agents who 404 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: didn't just botch, but basically criminally covered up the Larry 405 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Naser sexual abuse case. I mean, do we really have 406 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: faith that the Justice Department is actually going to be 407 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: able to give you any justice to the families here? 408 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: I think this has to come down to every political level, 409 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: both Valdi, but the ISD, the school city council along 410 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: with the governor. I mean, frankly, Steve McCraw should be fired, 411 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: the Texas head of Department Safety. I mean, he outright 412 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: lied to Texas and to the American people about the 413 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: school resource officer. So either he needs to be fired 414 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: for not vetting information properly before he delivers that, or 415 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: the person who gave him that needs to be fired. 416 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, at every level, both the cover up the response. Also, 417 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: I think every single one of these Border Patrol agents. 418 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Have you not noticed not one of those guys been 419 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: interviewed yet on Cameron. I think there's a reason for it, 420 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: which is that interesting. So I can tell you I 421 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: taped my network, I reached out to all the people 422 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: that I know, and you know, nobody is willing to 423 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: really go on the record and tell me what's going on. 424 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: But the skinny of it was essentially the contours of 425 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: what has come out, which is that they got on 426 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the scene and they were like, what the hell is 427 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: going on here? And after a while they were like, 428 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: you know what, this guy's a moron, screw him, and 429 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: they stormed in there, you know, had to go get 430 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: the key because they realized there had not been a 431 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: single attempt at breaching the door, and they killed him 432 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: within seconds of entering the door. And by the way, 433 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: not a single one of them actually was killed. You know, 434 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: they had a tactical shield, a ballistic shield, all of that, 435 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: all of that had been on scene for you know, 436 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: well into the time that they had been there, and 437 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: eventually they basically revolted against the incident commander. So again, 438 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: I think the Border Patrol guys, you know, frankly, they 439 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: need to come out and they need to speak the 440 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: head of Border Patrol. I think this is a cover up, 441 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: frankly by the administration also, I mean the Biden administration 442 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: declined that first day Crystal Karreeine Jean Pierre, she declined 443 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: to issue any call against law enforcement in their initial 444 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: even when it was well aware in the county. I mean, 445 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: they're such they're so afraid of being tagged of, like, oh, 446 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: you're anti cop, you got the Republican governor of Texas 447 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: or beyond politics is way beyond, Like they're just so 448 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: fearful of, like, oh, what's the right going to say 449 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: about this, that they can't even find the obvious correct 450 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: answer that basically everyone in the country is thinking feeling 451 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: right now with a couple of notable examples that we're 452 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: going to get to shortly. But yeah, even the way 453 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: that they framed this investigation is not confidence inspiring, they 454 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: say in this article. The review, which being undertaken at 455 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: the request of Yuvaldi Mayor Don McLaughlin, is tasked with 456 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: providing quote an independent account of law enforcement actions and 457 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: responses that day, and to identify lessons learned and best 458 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: practices to help first responders prepare for and respond to 459 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: active shooter events. We don't need to. I mean, we 460 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: know the best practices already. It's exactly what was laid 461 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: out in that training, man. I mean sadly, Postcolumne is 462 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: part of what I'm going into my monologue as well. 463 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of money spent by Congress to 464 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: fund research into what the best response is because in 465 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Columbine there was a delay of about twenty minutes from 466 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: the time that law enforcement arrived on the scene until 467 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: when they actually entered the school, and that twenty minutes 468 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: was considered shocking, unconscionable at the time, but also at 469 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: the time there was no fully developed protocol for this, 470 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: so they were making it up on the After that, 471 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: there have been federal funds spent hundreds of millions of 472 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: dollars to train, to develop and disseminate this training. So 473 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: we know the lessons. We don't need the lessons learned, 474 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: we need accountability. And unfortunately, you know the way that 475 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: our laws are written, in the way that the court 476 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: has decided, law enforcement isn't actually under a duty to protect. Yeah, 477 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: it was just about to read though it's very unlikely 478 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: that any of these people. I mean, the most accountability 479 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: they may face is losing their job. But in terms 480 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: of any sort of criminal negligence, I think it's it's 481 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: highly highly unlikely. Here people forget you know, the Justice 482 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: Department ruled, or sorry, the Supreme Court ruled in two 483 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: thousand and five the police do not have a constitutional 484 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: duty to protect anyone, which you know, really raises a 485 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: lot of questions about the social contract. Whenever you're going 486 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: to imbuse somebody with an immense amount of power and 487 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: with the ability to like hold military grade weapons and 488 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: you know, automatic rifles and training and all of this 489 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: qualified immunity that we grant the grant them. I think 490 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: that within the guest established social contract is you know, 491 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: if somebody is shooting up a school, you go in 492 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: and try to kill that person. And I think that 493 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: what also is going to be shown here is, you know, 494 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: these parents don't have recourse. It can't sue these cops 495 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: for their lack of response. You can't do really anything. 496 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: And the question now comes like what actual accountability can 497 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: be done. I think the fact that this Uvalde ISD 498 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: guy still has his job is insane. I mean, he 499 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: should be immediately. It doesn't even there's not a question 500 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: about it. The city council, the mayor, they should be 501 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: going in name the three cops who sat on their 502 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: ass outside of this and basically fire them. I mean, 503 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: you are well within your rights in order to do so. 504 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: But a lot of what's happening here just reeks to 505 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: me of a cover up. And they're waiting for the 506 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: American public and the media and everybody to move on 507 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: so that they can an issue their stupid little report 508 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: about Oh, here's exactly what listen. I mean, we have 509 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: the broad it's been a couple of days. We have 510 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: the broad contents what happened, right, the spirit of what happened. 511 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: We have a minute of a by minute account. We 512 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: don't need a five hundred page timeline about what's happened, 513 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: like we need people to be fired, preferably if possible, 514 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: to be prosecuted under the full extent of the law. 515 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what's happened here is just an egregious miscarriage, 516 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: at least in the spirit of what justice is supposed 517 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: to be about and about what these people are supposed 518 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: to be doing. Everything that takes time. I mean, these 519 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: delaying tactics are so typical I mean even in the 520 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: political response here in Washington, like, oh, we're going to 521 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: go and we're going to try to work in a 522 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: buy partisan manner. No, the public energy is there right now, 523 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the keat is on the issue right now. You know 524 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: what you need to do. You know what kind of 525 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: legislation would make a difference in terms of guns. You 526 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: know what is broadly supported by the American public. We're 527 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: going to talk about that shortly. And same with the 528 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: response on the ground here in Texas. You know at 529 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: this point where the major failures lie. Sure, we would 530 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: like to know the whole story. I still have a 531 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: lot of questions. I want to know where the freaking 532 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: school resource officer was when he was supposed to be 533 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: at the school, and they lied, you know, four different 534 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: times to cover up what exactly happened there. There were 535 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: basic lies too, to try to cover their asses about how, 536 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: oh he was the shooter was wearing body armor, which 537 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: was meant, I think, to offer an excuse for why 538 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: they weren't able to shoot and kill this guy to 539 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: start with, and why they were so fearful of engaging 540 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: with him because they felt like he was well. It 541 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: turned out that wasn't true as well. So there are 542 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: still a lot of questions here, but you're right, we 543 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: know broadly where the mass failures lie. The lie with 544 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: the head of that Yuvaldi School District Police Department, who 545 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: clearly made the call, Hey, we're going to sit on 546 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: our hands for an hour and let kids bleed out 547 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: on the classroom floor, try to you know, keep even 548 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: border patrol who were there saying what are we doing, like, 549 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: why are we standing around here? Let's go in trying 550 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: even to prevent them from acting. We know that we 551 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: know where the lies came from, from the spokespeople here, 552 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: from the leaders of the department. So the fact that 553 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: any of these people still have their jobs to meet 554 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: is completely insane. The other piece we wanted to bring 555 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: you is the president and the first Lady did visit 556 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Uvaldi to meet with families who have a little bit 557 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: of that that we can show you. You know, this 558 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: is for those of you who are just listening. This 559 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: is the first Lady laying a bouquet of flowers and 560 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: the memorial there in front of the rob Elementary School sign, 561 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: along with you know a lot of other flowers and pictures. 562 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: You can see some other local community members walking there 563 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: and just contemplating this. What is really something you will 564 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: never be able to wrap your head around. Let's talk 565 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: about Larry Nasser. Unfortunately we have to do. This is 566 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: just one of those that really hearkens back to what 567 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: we had talked about in our B block, which is 568 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: that they're kicking it over to the Justice Department to 569 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: examine you'valdi. How has the Justice Department handled their review 570 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: of their behavior when it came to Russiagate and also 571 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: when it came to Larry Nasser. Nassar is the king 572 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: example of a non political case in which you really 573 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: ask yourself, what the hell is the point of having 574 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: these people with all of this power and why are 575 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: they never held to account? So let's put this up 576 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: there on the screen. The very same day that they 577 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: asked the Justice Department to look into Yuvaldi, the Justice Department, quietly, 578 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: of course, not taking advantage of what exactly the media 579 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: environment is, comes out and says they are standing by 580 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: their decision not to charge the FBI agents who disregarded 581 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: the gymnastics allegations by the Olympic team that allowed Larry 582 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Nasser not only to assault them continually, but to continue 583 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: to assault dozens of new women. And I'll just remind 584 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: everyone you have your case in which there were flags 585 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: and interviews being done by FBI agents in twenty fifteen, 586 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: who then did not record the case, did not do 587 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: anything about it, did not enforce or investigate Larry Nasser 588 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: until a newspaper brought to light the allegations against him 589 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: two years later, then make up statements and record that 590 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: past interview two years later. I think this speaking here 591 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: specifically about Mikayla Maroney, who these FBI agents and I'm 592 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: talking about made up things that she said to try 593 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: and cover their own ass, saying no, no, no, We 594 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: did an interview back in twenty fifteen. They didn't even 595 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: record it until after it all came out publicly. We 596 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: know that one of the agents himself was trying to 597 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: get a job with USA Gymnastics, and that he was 598 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: in collusion effectively with the head of that program in 599 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: order to try and to cover up what was happening here. 600 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it boggles the mind when we're talking about 601 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of little children. You know, there's a common theme 602 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: little children failed here by law enforcement that were basically 603 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: shunted aside for the career ambitions of these two FBI 604 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: agents in the Indianapolis Field Office, and the Justice Department 605 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: has out now had three times in order to make 606 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: this right, that they've looked back. This was an ex 607 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: additional external review of the case, and they say, well, 608 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: under the current guidelines, we simply cannot prosecute these agents. 609 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean he made false statements that there are people 610 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: sitting in jail for doing the exact same thing. Yeah, 611 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: and this agent is being let off the hook having 612 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: clearly violated the law and worse failed MICHAELA. Maroney and 613 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Simone Bile. I mean, not just those are the household names, 614 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: the hundreds of young girls who were molested and abused 615 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: by this man. So I just think it's a you know, 616 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: if you think there's accountability by these people, I don't 617 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. It is truly disgusting. And 618 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: you make the correct point, which is the Justice Department 619 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: acknowledges that these agents lied. They say, it looks like 620 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: they made false statements, but we don't have enough evidence 621 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: to bring criminal courches. Yeah. There's a quote here from 622 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer who represents some of the survivors of his abuse, 623 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: who said the continued failure by the Department of Justice 624 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: to criminally charge the FBI agents, USA Gymnastics, and the 625 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee officials who conspired to 626 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: cover up the largest sex abuse scandal in the history 627 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: of sport is incomprehensible. And you have so many layers. 628 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: You have these FBI agents who delayed and covered up 629 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: because they were interested in their own careers and because 630 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: just I don't know, lazy and incompetent, and the one 631 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: wanted a job with USA Gymnastics. You have that, and 632 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: then you have all of these higher level bodies USA 633 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Gymnastics and the US Olympic Committee who they wanted to 634 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug because they just wanted to keep, 635 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, with their careers and with their industry and 636 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: make it money. So all of these young girls were 637 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: just you know, gris for the mill, for their industry, 638 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: and that's how they treated them. I mean, the courage 639 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: that it took for Mikhaela Moroney and Simone all these 640 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: women to come forward and acknowledge and expose what had 641 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: happened to them as young girls is extraordinary. And for 642 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: that testimony to just basically I mean Mikayla Maroney made 643 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: it clear that was basically dismissed, and the FBI agent 644 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: said to her, is that all that's what they said 645 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: to her. I can't believe. I mean, once again, no accountability. 646 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Nobody pays the price for years and years and years 647 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: of abuse that was completely preventable, could have been stopped. 648 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: And the people once again who were supposed to be 649 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: the good guys who were supposed to come in and 650 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: enforce the law and stand up for the victims the 651 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: survivors here once again they completely failed or interested in 652 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: themselves not doing the right thing. Yeah, and I do 653 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: think it's important that we say, you know, the media 654 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: describes this as a botched investigation. It's not botched. It 655 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: was criminally covered up by these agents. You have the 656 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: FBI itself, remember Michael Flynn and all that. You know 657 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: they went after these I'm not defending the guy, but 658 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: you know they said they went after him for a 659 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: false statements charge. Same with I mean, Paul Mannifort and 660 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Rogers whatever. I mean, my point being that when they 661 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: want to, yeah, they'll charge that case all day long. 662 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: But oh but here, no, we can't do that. It's 663 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: one of our own. I think what's even grosser is 664 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: they don't even release one of the agents whose name 665 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: was involved in this. Once again, I mean, these people 666 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: get all the breaks in the world, while the gymnasts 667 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: and all of them are the ones who are being abused. 668 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: And by the current count, between the time that they 669 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: knew about it in the time they did anything about it, 670 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: there were one hundred and twenty girls who were assaulted 671 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: by Larry n one hundred and twenty. So just like 672 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: YOU'VOLDI one hundred and twenty who pay the price after 673 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: the actual allegations. So you know, we'll let MICHAELA. Maroney 674 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: speak for herself. She testified before Congress back in September. 675 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: Here's what she had to say. Most of you are 676 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: probably aware I was molested by the US gymnastics national 677 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: team and Olympic team doctor Larry Nassar, and in actuality 678 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: he turned out to be more of a pedophile than 679 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: he was a doctor. What I'm trying to bring to 680 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: your attention today is something incredibly disturbing and illegal. After 681 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: telling my entire story of abuse to the FBI in 682 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: the summer of twenty fifteen, not only did the FBI 683 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: not report my abuse, but when they eventually documented my 684 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: report seventeen months later, they made entirely false claims about 685 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: what I said. After reading the Office of Inspector at 686 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: General OIG report, I was shocked and deeply disappointed at 687 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: this narrative they chose to fabricate. They chose to lie 688 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: about what I said and protect a serial child molester 689 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: rather than protect not only me, but countless others, you know, 690 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: and Simoan Biles same thing. She had to come out 691 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: and talk about this. I recommend everybody go watch the 692 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: Netflix documentary athlete A that goes into the very very 693 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: beginning kind of of the initial reports against Naser how 694 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: and this one concerns a lot more of usagmastics and 695 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: how exactly they covered up. But at every institutional level, 696 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, these girls were failed, and just all anybody 697 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: wants is accountability here. You know, I think anybody can 698 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: anybody can at least understand, if not forgive, you know, Okay, 699 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: somebody came forward, but this is intentional, like brushing it past. 700 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: And also it's very clear there was some sexists, like 701 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: we don't believe you. Yeah, you know, that was a 702 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: huge part of what Nasar would do is he'd be like, well, 703 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: these girls, they don't understand, like this is a medical procedure. 704 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: And it took actually a female detective to be like, 705 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: I think this is bullshit about what exactly is talking about. 706 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of male detectives didn't believe these clear 707 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: victims of sexual assault, and I mean they're you know, 708 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: I always think about that one dad who charged and 709 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: tried to hurt Nasa at the trial. I mean, how 710 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: there's so many hundreds of those dads. I don't know, 711 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: kids who were suffered under him. Parents. You know, this 712 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: ruins people's lives forever, and nobody's standing up for them. 713 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: Disgusting discussing this is something we've been keeping a real 714 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: eye on, which is that what's happening right now is 715 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: what it, unfortunately we predicted was going to happen now. 716 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: The stock band gained a lot of momentum. At one 717 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: point it was even possibly going to be included in 718 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: the President of the United States State of the Union 719 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: where he was going to endorse a ban on members 720 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: of Congress trading stocks. It reached a real national level 721 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: of consciousness. You have apps and tiktoks now about people 722 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: following Congressional stock trades. It has entered popular culture in 723 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: a way that very very very few things in politics 724 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: ever do well. Congress is doing what it does best, 725 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: which is just yeah, yeah, sure, I support it, which 726 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: is what Pelosi said, even though she said it's a 727 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: free market. We live in a capitalist country. Let's put 728 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: this up there on the screen from Business Insider, which 729 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: is that inside the true believers, there is a major 730 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: frustration that they're trying to run out the clock. Remember, 731 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: Congress resets at every election, which means that you have 732 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: to restart from scratch if you haven't been able to 733 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: pass a law. And what the people who are in 734 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: charge are saying is that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer 735 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: are really putting the brakes on any ability for some 736 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: of these stock bands to actually go through Congress. So 737 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: one of the people behind this, Alison Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, 738 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: who is not some you know, like progressive less to 739 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: be honest with right, So she's good, she's like what 740 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: madam centrist, Yes exactly, I mean like former I think 741 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: like she's a former CIA. Anyway, even this lady supports 742 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: the stockman. Okay, well, she says, and again she's a 743 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: Democrat avoids used naming Pelosi, but insists that it is 744 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: being a stonewalled quote by anyone who has the ability 745 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: to move it forward. So that's in the House where 746 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: the Speaker and apparently the chair people of the relevant 747 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: committees are making sure that this thing doesn't even get 748 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: a hearing, so that way it doesn't get voted on, 749 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: so that way doesn't make it way to the floor, 750 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: and therefore even Pelosi then has to decide whether something 751 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: that comes to the floor actually gets voted on. And 752 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: of course, over in the Senate, there's a bunch of Democrats, 753 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: bipartisan groups also who have proposed major stock band legislation. 754 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: And yet what they point to is that in the Senate, 755 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: with especially in the current political environment, we are at 756 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: a place where the committees themselves have not even begun 757 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: to hold hearings on these things. And what they're saying 758 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: is that it is very clear that there is pressure 759 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: from the top in order to make sure that these 760 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: things do not not only make it out a committee, 761 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: but never get voted on. And so I think part 762 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: of the issue is that there isn't a truly united 763 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: caucus because on the one hand, you have Democrats and 764 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: Republicans who have co sponsored bills. But on the other 765 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: you really just have it so that nobody even close 766 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: to leadership is really pushing this stuff. I mean, on 767 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: the Republican side, right, it's like Josh Holly, Ben sass, 768 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: they had no connection to leadership, chip Roy same thing. 769 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, McCarthy hates chip Roy. And then on the 770 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: Democrat side, you know, it's even Spanberger not beloved apparently, 771 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: at least on this BiPOL seeing the others is Primila 772 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: Jopaul who also you know she may take orders, yeah, 773 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: is not beloved also by a couple things to say 774 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: about that. So according to this report, it looks like 775 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: Pelosi is the real problem because Schumer doesn't actually even 776 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: own any stock. I didn't realize that. He's very poor. Actually, yeah, 777 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: he and his wife both they you know, took what 778 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: was the Biden position too, by the way, when he 779 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: was in the Senate, saying listen, I'm not going to 780 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: trade any stock while I'm here, which is very honorable 781 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: but should be required of every member obviously. And so 782 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: you have Pelosi, who obviously has a different view, and 783 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: what they say is while yeah, she's publicly expressed openness 784 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: to a band. Her quote was, if members want to 785 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: do that, I'm okay with it. She had initially, as 786 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sure recall, had a very different take 787 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: on this, that this was just the free market and 788 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: why shouldn't people be able to participate it? And obviously 789 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: her husband's what they describe as frequent high volume stock 790 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: trades have fed suspicion that she is not actually interested 791 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: in addressing the issue. And yet we show you how 792 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: much Primilla Giapoul like has just completely bent the knee 793 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: and like shown complete fealty to Pelosi. Is in some 794 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: way span Burger Abigail Spanberger, who as you said, is 795 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: like madam centrist, went further and criticizing Pelosi than Jiapaul does. 796 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: She says, you take the statements that people make, and 797 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, you continue to push. She told me she 798 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: was supportive, so I'm going to take her at her words. Soger, 799 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so embarrassing the way that she has 800 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: just completely sold out any value or principle because she 801 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: has some fantasy in her mind that she's going to 802 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: get some kind of a leadership spot within the Democratic 803 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: Party that's never even going to happen. It's really it's 804 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: just embarrassing at this point. That's the only way I 805 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: can put it. And all of this comes against backdrop 806 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: of another report that the very limited regulation that we 807 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: have on stock trading, which is none, it's just like 808 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of transparency around it, even that some 809 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: Senators cannot bring themselves to follow the law when it 810 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: comes to the Stock Act. Let's go and put this 811 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: report up on the screen. Three and more senators violated 812 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: the Stock Act. At least two more Democrats and a 813 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: Republican Centater failed to report stock transactions last year as 814 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: a ban on congressional stock training flounders in a Senate 815 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: working group, and we get a little bit of insight 816 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: here soccer into possibly why it is quote floundering in 817 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: that Senate working group. One of the senators who broke 818 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: the law violating the Stock Act is Senator Gary Peters, 819 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: a Democrat who has considerable influence over whether the Senate 820 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: will move this year to limit stock transaction or ownership 821 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: by its members, because these chair of the Homeland Security 822 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: and Governmental Affairs Committee, where two of those stock trading 823 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: reform bills have been referred. Oh and by the way 824 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: the Homeland Security Committee chair Senator Peters reports owning stock 825 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: in Raytheon not to mention numerous assets in the fossil 826 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: fuel industry, so little peak of why it might be 827 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: floundering in committee. The really wild one to me is 828 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: Hickenlooper here. Actually, when you start to read these details, 829 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: listen to the stuff that John hicken Andlooper is up to. Okay, 830 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: five transactions his household made in twenty twenty one. Two 831 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: sales of between one hundred K and two hundred and 832 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: fifty k worth of stock in the Liberty Broadband Corporation 833 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: by his spouse. A sale of between one hundred K 834 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: and two hundred and fifty k by his Liberty Broadband 835 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: in September, so another sale of between two hundred and 836 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: fifty and five hundred by his wife in November. Why 837 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: are they so hard up for cash? Why do they 838 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: own so much stock even in this company in the 839 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: first place? Do they have any insider knowledge? Now? What 840 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: are they putting all this money to use? They are 841 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: purchasing between fifteen and fifty k in a Denver bar 842 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: and music lounge. Now, look, I'm just gonna submit this. 843 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: Should you really have and this is just as bad 844 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: as the Trump hotel stuff. Yeah, why do Why when 845 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: you are a public official who clearly is extraordinarily wealthy 846 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: to be selling hundreds of thousands of dollars nearly a 847 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: million dollars with a stock even in a single year, 848 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: in just one private stock, which is even the full 849 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: some holdings of your entire net worth, why are you 850 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: putting money into Denver bar in Musical, a place where 851 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: you live. I mean that means that any proceeds then 852 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: from that go directly into your own pocket. I mean, 853 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: who's binding at this restaurant? It is like the Trump 854 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's a regional, it's a smaller scale, 855 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, this gives you a direct way for people 856 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: to line your pockets directly. They know that they go 857 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: to this rest of they spend a bunch of money, 858 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: They know where that's going. They know, you know, if 859 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: they run up a big enough bill that And here's 860 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: another one. What if he uses his campaign dollars to 861 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: have campaign dinners at his own restaurant? So then now 862 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: are you funneling campaign dollars into your own pocket? I mean, 863 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: is anybody actually going to go and track that? Yeah? 864 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: I think we all know the answer. So this is 865 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: why you should just ban it in the first place. 866 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: If we want to serve in Congress, the least you 867 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: can do is not own a share in a ten 868 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: very far and serve in Congress like you're supposed to 869 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: be a public servant. You're not supposed to be there 870 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: to cash in or what a crunch shall say, better yourself, 871 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: by which she meant get fabulously wealthy off of the 872 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: backs of the people that you're supposed to represent. Just 873 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: don't do that. And if that's what you want to do, 874 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: find another line of work. Absolutely, Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. 875 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: We have an amazing show for everybody today. What do 876 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: we have pristal Indeed, we do a little bit of 877 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: court TV here, fun stuff. So we have two verdicts 878 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: and two significant trials that we want to bring to you. 879 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: Number one, Johnny Depp amber Hers's right. Listen, We've got 880 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: to give the people what they want. I mean, so 881 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: I have been, as a matter of principle, opposed to 882 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: following in depth what is going on here. So basically 883 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: Soccer's going to lay this out. I'm ask them some questions. 884 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: We'll explain to you what the verdict was and what 885 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: it all means, if it means anything at all, So 886 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you about that. There was also another 887 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: verdict in the trial of lawyer Susman. This is part 888 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: of the Durham inquiry, and so we've got those details 889 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: for you as well. He was Hillary Clinton's lawyer. You 890 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: guys probably remember some of the details of that. We 891 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: also have the Department of Justice the very first charges 892 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: of someone involved with NFTs of insider trading. This is 893 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: so it is actually a really wild story and might 894 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: be indicative of a larger problem, not only within NFTs 895 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: but also within the largely unregulated world of crypto. So 896 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: we will bring you those details. President Biden out with 897 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: a big ed explaining what he will and won't do 898 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, but then sort of immediately going beyond what 899 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: he says he won't do. We'll give you. Yeah, it is. 900 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: It is odd. So break all of that down for you. 901 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: But we wanted to start with more stunning revelations in 902 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: terms of this horrific shooting in Texas in Uvalde, Texas. 903 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: The very latest is that law enforcement seems to be 904 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: turning on each other. Go ahead and put this piece 905 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: up on the screen. So the breaking news here from 906 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: ABC News is the Yvaldi PD and Valdi Independent School 907 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: District Police Force are no longer cooperating with the Texas 908 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: Department of Public Safety's investigation into rob elementary school shooting. 909 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: Multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News I'll read to 910 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: you a little bit of this ABC News article. They say. 911 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: According to sources, the decision to stop cooperating occurred soon 912 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: after the director of that Department of Public Safety, Colonel 913 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: Stephen McCraw, held a news conference Friday, during which he 914 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 1: said the delayed police entry into the classroom was quote 915 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: the wrong decision and contrary to protocol. Their response from 916 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: the Uvalde Police Department and the school district is that 917 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: they have been cooperating with investigators. The chief of the 918 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: Yuvaldi CISD police provided an initial interview, but has not 919 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: responded to a request for a follow up interview with 920 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers that was made two days ago. Here's 921 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: another piece. We had mentioned this before. So the guy 922 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: who was in charge of the response here, his name 923 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: is Pete Aradondo. He was the head of the school 924 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: district police department, which was separate apart from the local PD. 925 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: He is the one who was saying, no, this is 926 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: no longer an active shoot, this is a hostage situation. 927 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: So we are going to stand outside of the hallway 928 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: and hang out here for more than an hour. He 929 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: is the one who also kept even the border patrol 930 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: who wanted to go in from actually breaching the doors. 931 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: He's the one who made the call line even to 932 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: try to go into that classroom as kids are being 933 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 1: shot and dying and bleeding out on the floor. Well, 934 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: it happened that prior to all of this, he'd actually 935 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: won election to the local Uvalde City Council, and so 936 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: he was just sworn in to the city council a 937 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: week after this mass shooting. They understandably and wisely decided 938 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: not to have a public ceremony to celebrate his being 939 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: sworn in. I have a feeling that the people of 940 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: Evaldi might have a different feeling about whether or not 941 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: they want him to represent them on the city council 942 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: at this point. And then the last piece of this 943 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: part of the story, go ahead and put this last 944 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,959 Speaker 1: tweet up. There are some questions whether it's the entire 945 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: yvaldipd and you Havealdi CISD Police not cooperating. The other 946 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: indication is that it's actually just this guy who is 947 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: not Pete Aredondo, who is not cooperating and is not 948 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: responding to request for interviews. Following that press conference where 949 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: the head of Texas Public Safety admitted what was blatantly 950 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: obvious to anyone with a brain and a heart that 951 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: their response here was the wrong decision and ultimately absolutely atrocious. Yeah, 952 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't think that there is any just there. Look, 953 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: here's what's happened, which is that this guy, pete Aredondo, 954 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,760 Speaker 1: is in hiding. In fact, you know, a CNN reporter 955 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: was trying to get on the grounds of EVALDCISD and 956 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: they called the cops on the reporter, saying that you're 957 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: going to get arrested for criminal trespassing if you continue 958 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: to try and stake out and interview these guys. Are 959 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: it is the cops for everything and anything except like 960 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: actually saving children's lives when you have the chance, I 961 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: mean happy to use the cops to tase parents and 962 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 1: handcuffed parents. They called in additional law enforcement to provide 963 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: extra security for these guys and to remove reporters who 964 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: are trying to ask questions. But when it came down 965 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: to them actually serving the function that I know people 966 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: thought they were paying their salaries to do. Can't do that. 967 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: It's mystifying. I mean, what you're seeing is a complete 968 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: cover up by this guy, Pete Aradando. And look, he's 969 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: in serious trouble. I mean, it's no there's no question 970 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: here that he obviously does not deserve to be the 971 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: chief of the police department. I think the people of 972 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: Vlady should have something to say. Look, I mean it's 973 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: up to them, they can decide whether he wants to 974 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: be on the city council. But by almost every metric, 975 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: what's happening in this investigation is just maddening. And you know, 976 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: some of the emotion is still raw. But the more 977 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: that we learn about the lies and the just the 978 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 1: fakery and how many timeslaw enforcement has screwed this up, 979 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: it's just insane. Throw this next part up on the 980 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: screen because this just goes in tandem, which is that 981 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, the law enforcement has been telling us over 982 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: and over again, Well, the reason that the Uvaldi shooter 983 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: was able to get into the building was because some 984 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: elementary school teacher propped the back door open. They said 985 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: this three separate times, and they said that camera actually 986 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: confirmed that. Well, now they're saying a source familiar with 987 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: the investigation says that surveillance video and audio now verifies it. 988 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: Actually the teacher removed the rock which was holding the 989 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: door open and closed it quote she slammed it shut. 990 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: So now this raises a whole host of questions. Number one, 991 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: how the hell was that door open? Because the entire 992 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: thing was that door was supposed to be locked and 993 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: an auto lock function, according to everybody who was involved. 994 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: So either the lock was broken, which you know, if 995 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: you're into school hardening and all that, that's a big question, 996 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: how the hell does that happen? Right? But number two, 997 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the other thing. I mean, we know 998 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: that the grandmother of this shooter used to work at 999 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: the school, so like, did he have a key or something? 1000 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: He obviously was relatively familiar because he went in through 1001 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: the back door. I mean, did he have perhaps some 1002 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: inside knowledge? But this was a far too cute explanation 1003 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: as to you know, everyone was like, oh, what a tragedy. 1004 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: This poor teacher. They must feel as if they have 1005 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: blood on your hands. Well, it seems very clear. I 1006 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: mean she slammed the door shut, So what happened here? 1007 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: And why are they lying to her or her under 1008 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: the bus? Yeah, they really that's what happened. And so 1009 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: her lawyer uh said, no, no, no, this is not 1010 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: what happened. She saw. She actually called nine to one 1011 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: once she saw the wreck. This is according to her lawyer. 1012 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: She ran back inside to get her phone to report 1013 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: the accident. She came back out while on the phone 1014 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: with nine one one, the men at the funeral home yelled, 1015 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: he has a gun. She saw him jump the fence 1016 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: and he had a gun. So she ran back inside. 1017 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: She kicked the rock away when she went back in 1018 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: because what had been happening is because this was a 1019 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: special wards day, she had left a rock in the 1020 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: door to go back and forth to her car to 1021 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: bring food into the school. She kicks the rock away 1022 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 1: when she goes back in. She remembers pulling the door 1023 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 1: closed while telling nine to one one that he was shooting. 1024 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: She thought the door would lock because that door is 1025 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: always supposed to be locked. It's supposed to auto lock. 1026 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: And this is not just the word of her lawyer, 1027 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: as Sagar already said, this is confirmed by audio and 1028 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: video surveillance evidence. This is in fact what happened. So 1029 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: one more blatant, glaring lie that was told to the 1030 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: public that is only now being cleared up by like 1031 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: anonymous law enforcement sources after the fact. And it really 1032 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: is astonishing. Listen, it's surprised to me that cops lie 1033 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: that happens routinely, But the level of deception here of 1034 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: every single detail from the time this mass murderer wrecks 1035 00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: his truck until the end of this whole engagement. You know, 1036 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: another thing that came out, remember Soccer. The very early 1037 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: reports were that he had been taken out by one loan, 1038 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: courageous book border patrol officer. And by the way, I 1039 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: give all the credit to Border patrol who finally, after 1040 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: twenty minutes of being steming by lookland Lack, You're like, 1041 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: screw this, We're going in. Forget that, Like, what are 1042 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: you doing? We are going in. But the story that 1043 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: came out was like this one loan, heroic office goes 1044 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: in by himself and tastem. That wasn't true either. They 1045 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: had a whole failings of you know, officers who went 1046 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: in and coordinated fashion as they should, and at that 1047 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: point they had twenty plus people out in the hallway. 1048 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: So of course it makes sense that you wouldn't just 1049 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: be like, all right, you got the short straw time 1050 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: for you to go in and take care of business. 1051 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: So it's just another example of how everything about this 1052 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: timeline has been was wrong. They've had to correct it. 1053 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: Only upon when you know their lies are found out 1054 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: do they change the narrative. It is truly astonishing, to 1055 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: the point that we have followed this story very closely 1056 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: and it is impossible to keep track of every version 1057 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: of the story and every lie that they have told 1058 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: us from the beginning. Yeah, I can't even tell people 1059 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: what exactly the actual investigation is going to bear out. 1060 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we knew at first they said the most 1061 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: egregious lie is the school resource officer engaged the gunman 1062 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: outside of the school, right, he was not even there, 1063 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: and by the way, still nobody knows where he was. So, 1064 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 1: mister officer, where were you? What exactly getting paid for? 1065 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: Very interesting? Okay, Then we know that he was outside 1066 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: for twelve minutes, and that five minutes though after he 1067 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: arrives on the scene, two cops are already there, and 1068 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: so they kind of chase him into the school. They 1069 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: get wounded in the course of this. So okay, now 1070 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: we know that, then there is a some forty to 1071 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: fifty minute odd gap where kids inside are bleeding to 1072 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 1: death and calling nine to one one and begging the 1073 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: cops to come inside. And during that entire period there 1074 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: are at least nineteen agents outside in the hallway who 1075 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: are being held up by this gentleman. The incident commander 1076 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: on the scene, who was the Uvalde CISD Police Chief 1077 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: Pete Arodnando. Well he has not now he's not cooperating 1078 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: with law enforcement. There has also been lies. They're like, oh, 1079 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: this teacher, you know, this idiot teacher left the door up, 1080 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: But nope, she actually didn't do that. He jumped. So 1081 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: I mean there look from every step beginning to the end, 1082 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: there are lies. There are major questions, and I honestly 1083 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: don't know, Christel, I don't know if we're ever gonna 1084 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: get an answer. Do you think I don't trust the 1085 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: FBI in order to tell us exactly what happened here 1086 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: or the Justice Department? Because we also know that federal 1087 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: marshals were on the scene arresting this mom's putting her 1088 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: in handcuff. You think they're not going to cover up 1089 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: their own complicity if the FEDS were on the scene. 1090 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: You know, it just made me so angry because I 1091 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: was watching this video this morning of these Vivaldi CISD 1092 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: cops throwing these reporters off, being like just so you know, 1093 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: you've all the PDEs on his way and they're gonna issue. 1094 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, this guy's like gi Jode out and he's 1095 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: got like a you know, handgun strapped to his leg, 1096 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, he disgusted me. You're sitting here 1097 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 1: throwing these media guys off a side public sidewalk because 1098 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: they want to guy, because you and your boss didn't 1099 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: actually go in. And so these are the same people, 1100 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, the same types of cops actually probably on 1101 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: the scene at that day. So I mean you just 1102 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: compare their response and then the level of lies and 1103 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: now they're using their own law enforcement resources to try 1104 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: and cover up what was happening here. I mean, somebody's 1105 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: got to stand up for Texas. I keep saying this, 1106 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: like will Governor Abbott and Ken Paxson. You know, Governor 1107 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: Abbott has only said one thing. I'm livid, Okay, I 1108 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: don't care if you're living right, what do you and 1109 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: Ken Paxson. Need to get your asses down there and 1110 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: start investigating fire. Steve McCraw, you know, Texas Department of 1111 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: Public Safety put them on the camera and be like, hey, 1112 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: what what what happened here? Honestly, I mean, somebody in 1113 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: that state to this day, you know, Ted Cruz, John 1114 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: Corny and these guys haven't done anything. Can somebody stand 1115 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: up for these people? Well Cornyn did do something. He 1116 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: went and carried water. Yeah, that's right, Lies, that's right. 1117 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean that was Oh they had you know, it's 1118 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: a split second decision. Oh, a split second decision over 1119 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: an hour and twenty minutes. That's a split second. Okay. 1120 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: You know. The sad thing here too is in terms 1121 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: of any sort of criminal liability, I don't think there's 1122 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: anything that there is almost nothing that's going to be happen, 1123 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: you know well, I mean the law does not say 1124 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: that they have any sort of duty to do anything 1125 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: to protect these kids in this situation, and so probably 1126 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: the you know, the most we'll ever get is if 1127 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: there's some sort of investigation, which you know, we're all 1128 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: pretty doubtful that we'll get really to the bottom of 1129 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: any of this, and that they lose their lose their jobs. 1130 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: That's the most that might happen out of this. But 1131 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: it just continues to shock me. The level of cowardice, 1132 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: the level of deception, the cover ups, and now you 1133 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: know the main character here, and you know, I'm sure 1134 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: he's not the only one to blame, but he seems 1135 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: like a pretty key figure in what went wrong on 1136 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: that day that he now is is hiding from the 1137 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: inquiry and refusing interviews and just trying to continue to 1138 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: see I'm seeing here he was actually ambushed kind of 1139 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: this morning by CNN cameras. Oh yeah, I don't see 1140 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: anything that he actually said. He was confronted by CNN. 1141 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: But nobody's pulling out any quote. Obviously, this is breaking, 1142 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: like literally right now. Yeah, there doesn't seem to be 1143 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: noteworthy poll quotes exactly. He probably said something along the 1144 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: lines of yeah, he's declining to answer any questions in 1145 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: his first public comments after he was finally confronted out 1146 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: of the back entrance there by a CNN reporter. Props 1147 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: out to that guy, Shimone I think is Shimon Procupez. 1148 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: I think that's okay. He's been he's been done a 1149 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: very good job. I want to get praise to you. 1150 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: He's the one who also press them in that in 1151 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: that press conference where the head of Texas Public Safety 1152 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: admitted that it was the wrong decision, he was also 1153 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: the one that pressed them on what measures were taken 1154 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: to try to get in that door, which forced him 1155 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: to admit nothing. Yeah, and we do nothing. So I 1156 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: will say, there's here's one poll quote. He does say 1157 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: he's actually in touch here with the Texas Department of 1158 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Public Safety. Well, he seemed to have another story. But 1159 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: what I'm guessing is that when he says that he 1160 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: probably has a ton of lawyers and that they are 1161 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: speaking on his behalf and declining probably to answer. Well, 1162 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: and this guy really should be able to be sued. 1163 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how to understan and how qualified immunity 1164 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: works for CISD cops. But listen, I mean, if there 1165 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: was ever a case for criminal negligence or for involuntary 1166 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: manslaughter early, at least in the case of like how 1167 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: oj Simpson got sued, I mean, these parents they deserve 1168 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: so soon, they truly do. Yeah, this is not right. Indeed, indeed, 1169 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: all right. There are also big developments with regards to 1170 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Russia's war on Ukraine. President Biden wrote an abed in 1171 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: New York Times. He's been writing a lot of op 1172 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: eds recently. Let's put this up on the screen and 1173 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: sagra and read a little bit of this, and then 1174 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to it. So his 1175 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: whole thing here the headline is President Biden, what America 1176 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: will and will not do in Ukraine. He says, as 1177 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: the war goes on, I want to be clear about 1178 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: the aims of the US in these efforts. America's goal 1179 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: is straightforward. We want to see a democratic, independent, sovereign, 1180 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and prosperous Ukraine with the means to detern defend itself 1181 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,919 Speaker 1: against further aggression. Towards that those ends, he says, We'll 1182 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: continue cooperating with our allies and partners on Russian sanctions 1183 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: toughest ever, impost on major in economy, will continue providing 1184 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: you Ukraine with advanced weaponry. Keep that thought in mind 1185 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: for a moment. We also continue reinforcing NATO's eastern flank 1186 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: with forces and capabilities from the US and other allies. 1187 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: But then he goes, so that's the portion of the 1188 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: like what we will do in Ukraine, this is what 1189 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: we will not do. Portion of the ap ed. He says, 1190 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: we do not seek a war between NATO and Russia. 1191 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: As much as I disagree with mister Putin and find 1192 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: his actions and outrage, the United States will not try 1193 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: to bring about his ouster in Moscow. A little bit 1194 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: different than some things we've heard of the administration in 1195 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the past. So long as the United States or our 1196 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: allies are not attacked, we will not be directly engaged 1197 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,479 Speaker 1: in this conflict, either by sending American troops to fight 1198 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: in Ukraine or by attacking Russian forces. We are not 1199 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: encouraging or enabling Ukraine to strike beyond its borders. We 1200 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: do not want to prolong the war just to inflict 1201 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: pain on Russia. Again, that goes diametrically against what people 1202 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: like ron Klain and others in the administration and even 1203 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: President Biden himself have said. He then goes on to say, 1204 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: my principle throughout this crisis has been quote nothing about 1205 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Ukraine without Ukraine, Okay. I will not pressure the Ukrainian 1206 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: government in private or public, to make any territorial concessions. 1207 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: It would be wrong, in contrary to well subtleed principles 1208 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: to do so. There's another part about nuclear weapons I 1209 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: want to get to it in a moment, But first 1210 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: of all, what's your reaction to that portion? Yeah, my 1211 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: reaction is that this is a very nice, condensed view 1212 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: which is just certainly not in line with the rhetoric 1213 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: and many of the actions of the Biden administration. And actually, 1214 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: that is why I find it so confusing, because on 1215 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the very same day that the op ed comes out, 1216 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: you're going to be talking about some of this in 1217 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: your monologue. There is a leaked story both in the 1218 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: NBC News first and then in the Washington Post about 1219 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Biden's frustration with his aids for quote cleaning up his comments. 1220 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: And actually one of the things he got most pissed 1221 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: off at his staff about was when they cleaned up 1222 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: his statements saying, by God, this man cannot remain in power. Right, 1223 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: that is directly incongruous with that statement here we do 1224 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: not seek his ouster in Moscow. As much as I 1225 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: may disagree, So he has a direct diet metric view 1226 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: in what he said, which we know from the words 1227 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: of the president, and now the vetted edited words of 1228 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: the president here in the op ed. So which is it? 1229 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: What is the policy of the United States? Now? I differ. 1230 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: As always, I'm both under Trump and Biden that the 1231 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: words of the president are policy. The President of the 1232 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: United States is a democratically elected leader of this country, 1233 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: and so unfortunately, I think in this case, President Biden 1234 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: has made his preference very clear. Also, there's no indication 1235 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: actually that he is pressuring Ukraine in any way in 1236 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 1: order to seek a peace deal. Now well, and actually, 1237 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean part of what he says here basically indicates that. 1238 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, when he says that I will not pressure 1239 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government to make any territorial concessions, it would 1240 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: be wrong, in contrary to well settled principles to do so. 1241 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: That sounds like a very nice principle to hold too, 1242 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: But what it actually means is that you are not 1243 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: pushing for peace. That puts you on the opposite side 1244 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: of say France and Germany. So it's basically the US 1245 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and UK. And remember there was a report that from 1246 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Ukrainian Pravda that when Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, 1247 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 1: went to Kiev, he went specifically to deliver the message 1248 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: that even if you want to negotiate, we are not 1249 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: ready for this war to end. What we want is 1250 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: for you to continue to bleed Russia, to continue to 1251 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: weaken Putin, and that is ultimately our goal in the conflict. 1252 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: That is consistent with leaks that came out of the 1253 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,439 Speaker 1: administration of senior level officials who said they basically see 1254 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: that as the only end game insight that goes directly 1255 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: against I mean, that's consistent with what Biden himself has 1256 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: said now multiple times about he can't remain in power, 1257 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: consistent with what ron Klain says, we don't want to 1258 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: give Putin an off ramp. So even in the niceties 1259 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: of this ed, it's made very clear that on the 1260 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: one hand, they say, okay, we don't want a war 1261 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: between NATO and Russia, they continue walking up to the 1262 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: edge of actually being in direct conflict with Russia by 1263 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: the way, and we'll get to that in a minute, 1264 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: But then they also say we don't actually want to 1265 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: negotiate it. I think there's a way to square two 1266 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: by saying you support Ukraine by the way. I do 1267 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: think it's up to the Ukrainians, you know, like they 1268 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: get to decide. It's up to them. They can fight 1269 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: if they want to, if not, whatever territorial concessions. It's 1270 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: literally on them if they want to fight until the 1271 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: bitter end, you know, that's on you. But what I 1272 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: think what's important that the French and the German are doing. 1273 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Our French and Germany are doing is they're not pressuring 1274 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Ukraine Crystal. They're calling Putin, you know, they're calling Putin 1275 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: and trying to open up the space for Putin actually 1276 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: to come to the table. I think Biden should get 1277 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: on the phone. Even better, honestly, get go meet in 1278 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: a neutral country whatever, Helsinki, Iceland, you know, wherever those plays. 1279 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I think Reykievic was technically halfway and that's where they 1280 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: met during the Cold War. Get everybody together. I'm sure 1281 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Putin would go, you know at this point, and I 1282 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 1: just I do not believe for a second that that 1283 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 1: would not help the situation. Yeah, now everyone's saying, oh, 1284 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: you would benefit you know Putin and all, what do 1285 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: you mean His military is on the rocks, his economy 1286 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: is on the brink, like obviously, you know, you know, 1287 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: in terms of the reports that we look at, he's 1288 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: not doing so well from a health perspective. That actually 1289 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: possibly could open up the ground and maybe you can 1290 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: shake something out and be like Okay, Listen, if you 1291 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: withdraw all the way back to the CRIMEA, then X 1292 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 1: amount of sanctions don't get taken off, and you know, 1293 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: X amount of Russian oil can actually continue to be bought. 1294 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Maybe the German pipeline doesn't go through, you know, things 1295 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: like that. This is reality, this is what things are 1296 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: looking like. So if we pressured and talked to Russia, 1297 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: that's probably the best way in order to get this done. 1298 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: But that hasn't happened. You know, the United States and 1299 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Russia have not even had that level of high level communication. 1300 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I think at the highest level it's only our defense 1301 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: chiefs talking, which I don't support that. I want the 1302 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: diplomats on the phone. I want the presidents on the phone. Yeah, 1303 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: that's right. Even what you said though about we should 1304 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: leave it up to the Ukrainians is a little bit 1305 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: complicated because they the only reason they're in this fight 1306 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: is because of our weaponry. So we shouldn't pretend like 1307 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: we don't have direct interest in what happens here. How 1308 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: long this goes on, the administration has calculated, and it's 1309 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: clear from their words and also from their actions and 1310 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: the you know, advanced weapon that they continue to escalate 1311 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: and the support they continue to provide escalating support in 1312 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: terms of intelligence capabilities. It's very clear they have calculated 1313 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: what they think is in the US's best interest is 1314 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: for this war to continue indefinitely and to sort of 1315 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: bleed Putin dry and hope that he is, you know, 1316 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 1: somehow loses power, loses his grip on power. Now, first 1317 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,600 Speaker 1: of all, it is not at all a given that 1318 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: whatever would come after Putin would be better than Putin, 1319 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. I just fundamentally disagree that 1320 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: that's what is in the US's best interest. I think 1321 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: what is in the best interests of the US in 1322 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,480 Speaker 1: the world is avoiding the risk of a direct nuclear confrontation. 1323 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: The sooner this war can come to an end, the 1324 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: sooner we take that risk off the table. And that 1325 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: is why I would go further than what you say 1326 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: in terms of out, would just let the Ukrainians decide, 1327 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 1: because we already are so involved in meshed in this 1328 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: thing that it's not like we can I mean, you 1329 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: could take a hands off of person say we're not 1330 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: sending anything, but that effectively is you know, taking the 1331 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 1: side of we're going to cause this war to end. 1332 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: So we can't really pretend like we're in a position 1333 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: at this point to not have any influence or sway 1334 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: with what the Ukrainians do square they do. And this 1335 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: is why my position was also against some of the 1336 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: aid package. I don't think we should be providing them 1337 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: a lot of offensive weaponry, and that's actually kind of 1338 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: where you know, I want them to be able to 1339 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: defend themselves. And again, look, I don't think you can't 1340 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 1: say that the Ukrainian cause, of course, just you know, 1341 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: let's put this but this is why where I start 1342 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: to get concerned. Let's put this up there on the screen, 1343 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: which is that the Ukrainians have been begging us for 1344 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: these HIMAR rocket systems, these high mobility artillery rocket systems. 1345 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Now there are two types apparently within the stock of 1346 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: the US military, both the seventy kilometer version and the 1347 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 1: three hundred kilometer version. They were asking us for the 1348 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 1: three hundred kilometer version. Now we're giving them the seventy 1349 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,679 Speaker 1: given that we have now gotten, according to them, verbal 1350 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 1: assurances that they will not be used by Ukraine against 1351 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 1: targets in Russia, which Russian president Russian official Dmitri Medvedev 1352 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: had actually spoken. Apparently need to bide in and made 1353 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: some nuclear sable rattling threats. Where I get concerned is 1354 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: when why are the Ukrainians asking us for these three 1355 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: hundred kilometer weapons if their intent is not to strike 1356 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: into Russia. And the fact that we kind of have 1357 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 1: to bargain with them and be like, no, guys, we're 1358 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: only going to give you this one which you can 1359 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: use to defend yourself in the dunboss. I think that's great, 1360 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think defending yourself in a war for 1361 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: your territory, but enabling them to strike targets inside of Russia. 1362 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: And we talked about this in our last show, which 1363 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: is if you're the Russians, you're not stupid. You're like, hey, 1364 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: they can't strike with US weapons inside Russia, so we'll 1365 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: fire from Russia. We're at war with Ukraine. We can 1366 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: just do that. But the diplomatic fallout and the consequences 1367 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: of such actions, especially if Ukraine uses US provided weapons 1368 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: systems to do so, not just that. Remember we're in 1369 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: the NATO Alliance. Germany is actually giving them a longer 1370 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: range a longer range rocket system. The UK also is 1371 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: in possession of this type of technology. So what I'm 1372 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 1: talking about here is whenever we enable them to offensively strike, 1373 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 1: and I would define that not only in terms of 1374 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: a Ukrainian infensive, but also to up the ante in 1375 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,600 Speaker 1: terms of the strategic situation. That's where I'm completely against it. 1376 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 1: And that's also why the Biden administration decision here. Maybe 1377 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: it sounds wise, you know, only giving them seventy kilometers, 1378 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: but again, you know, this is where I get very concerned, 1379 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 1: is the Ukrainians are very cavalier and saying no, we 1380 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: need a no fly zone. Remember they campaigned here in Israel. 1381 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, Zelenski went pissed off the entire country of 1382 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: Israel by comparing it to the Holocaust. He's been all 1383 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 1: over the West begging for a no fly zone. Now 1384 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: he knows he's not going to get that. And it 1385 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: seems that the next phase of the asking US for 1386 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: weapons is give us these fighter planes, you know, which 1387 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: we would be able to, you know, possibly in order 1388 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 1: to strike into Russia. Give you these systems which would 1389 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 1: be able to strike into Russia. And that's where we 1390 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,680 Speaker 1: need to draw a much clearer red line, you know, 1391 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we really do need. I think the President 1392 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: should publicly say to Ukraine, we will never give you 1393 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 1: anything that we'll be able to strike into Russian And 1394 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately we're negotiating this all in some back room because 1395 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: it's appearing as some slight and you have warmongers here 1396 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: in Washington who think that, you know, the way to 1397 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: bolster Ukrainian defense is to give them stuff which they 1398 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: can use in an offensive way. Right, that is what 1399 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm completely against, completely agree, completely against that. And we've 1400 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: also because this forty billion dollars aid package was passed 1401 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 1: so casually, so quickly, with so little public debate, and 1402 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: now with no oversight, you're just basically trusting the good 1403 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,560 Speaker 1: judgment of Joe Biden. Yes, that's written into laws. I 1404 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 1: think people should really understand that. Yeah, it's written in 1405 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: the package saying the President has the sole discretionary authority 1406 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: to decide what goes over in Ukraine. So he's you know, 1407 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: making these trade offs like well, I won't give you 1408 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: the super long rate, I'll give you like the medium 1409 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: range ones, okay, and just say you know how significant 1410 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: this is. This is from that article about this weapon system. 1411 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,759 Speaker 1: They say that this is an extraordinarily advanced modern weapon system, 1412 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: much more advanced than anything the Ukrainians or the Oussians 1413 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: can currently put on the battlefield. They describe it as 1414 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: vehicle mounted launchers that can fire volleys of six guided 1415 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 1: rockets out of time that land within several feet of 1416 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: their intended target and accuracy unmatched in the artillery jewels 1417 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: taking place across the dawn Bus in Eastern Ukraine. The 1418 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: vehicle carrying the launchers can also travel at more than 1419 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: fifty miles per hour. Let's move on to this next 1420 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 1: one tone shift because this is just a completely nuts 1421 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 1: story and just I think an indication of a general 1422 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: vibe shift. I'm to be talking about the vibe shift 1423 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 1: a lot in this show. Let's start here NFTs Web three, 1424 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: so much of the discourse YouTube, even our audience. We 1425 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 1: can see in our research there's a lot of googling 1426 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: going on for what's happening here. Well, I can't tell 1427 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 1: you everything about it. I've done some dabbling. I do 1428 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: not own NFTs. But let's put this up. That's true. 1429 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: We do, end so we should disclose our conflict of 1430 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: interest here. Breaking Points Incorporated owns an NFC. I personally 1431 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 1: do not own NFT. We all collectively we own. That's right. 1432 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 1: BESTFT in the world. Okay, let's throw this up there 1433 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: on the screen, which is that Now the Department of Justice, 1434 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 1: and the first of its kind, has charging the former 1435 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 1: employee of an NFT marketplace charge in the first ever 1436 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: digital asset insider trading scheme. This is extraordinary. Number one 1437 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: is in the Southern District of New York, which is 1438 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 1: one of the hallmarks of the financial crimes within the 1439 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Obviously they represent Manhattan or they cover 1440 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 1: the area of Manhattan. Now, the person who was charged 1441 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 1: here Nathaniel Chastain. He is not just a former product 1442 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: manager at open see. He is the former head of product. Now. 1443 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: For those who are kind of familiar, open c was 1444 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the largest NFT marketplace. You can think of it almost 1445 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 1: like an eBay or a stock x or something of 1446 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 1: a collectibles database in order to exchange and to buy NFTs. Now, 1447 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: there is some problems with open c. Now, for a 1448 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 1: while there were some NFTs that were stolen, certain other things, 1449 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: but these guys were making absolutely millions of dollars in 1450 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 1: terms of the board apes and the other NFTs that 1451 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: were exchanging on the platform. Now, Chastain was actually arrested 1452 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 1: yesterday in New York City and was charged here with 1453 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,679 Speaker 1: insider trading, with wirefraud and a host of other financial crimes. 1454 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Let's throw actually, this Vice news piece did a decent 1455 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,480 Speaker 1: job of writing all this up, which is that Nathan Chastain, 1456 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 1: who was the former again head of product, used insider 1457 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 1: knowledge to trade NFTs for a profit. And what they 1458 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: point to is that Chastain used his insider knowledge to 1459 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,520 Speaker 1: purchase NFTs from collections that were about to be featured 1460 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: on the marketplace's home page for personal financial gain. I mean, 1461 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 1: that's the easiest thing to consider in the world. You 1462 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: are the head of product, you know which NFTs are 1463 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: about to be on the homepage. You know that you 1464 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 1: run the largest marketplace, So you buy said NFT or 1465 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: you have a stake in set NFT, and then you 1466 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,440 Speaker 1: put it on the homepage and you watch it skyrocket 1467 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 1: in value. And because you control when it goes on 1468 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: the marketplace or not, you have a tremendous advantage over 1469 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 1: the average person who is participating here. This is like, 1470 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: again if the idea, look, this is why we have 1471 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: regulated stock exchanges, and look as many problems as we 1472 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: have on the NASDAK on the New York stocky Jay 1473 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 1: you cannot get away with some this is nineteen tens 1474 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 1: era stuff. Well that's actually a very good point. And 1475 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 1: what they say here is that his NFTs, he would 1476 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: sell them then for two to five times his initial investment. 1477 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 1: So his whole game was, I'm going to put this 1478 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: thing on the homepage tomorrow, by it today. Once I 1479 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 1: feature it, i know the price is going to go up, 1480 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,719 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to sell it. I'm I'm gonna 1481 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,640 Speaker 1: rake it in. And he sought to hide his activity 1482 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: with anonymous crypto wallets and accounts. The DJ also says, so, look, 1483 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: we'll wait for all the details to come out, but 1484 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: this is extraordinarily damning, and it also is consistent. There's 1485 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 1: i mean, there is just a lot of fraud and 1486 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 1: you know con artist within the NFT world, especially also 1487 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: within the crypto world. Wall Street Journal did analysis that 1488 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 1: suggested that there was also significant insider trading within the 1489 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: crypto world. They did this report that found over six 1490 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 1: days last August, one crypto wallet A massed a stake 1491 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: of three hundred and sixty thousand dollars worth of how 1492 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 1: do you say this, sager gnosis nosis coins. Yeah, a 1493 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: token tied to an effort to build blockchain based prediction markets. 1494 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: On the seventh day, Binance, the world's largest cryptocurrency exchange 1495 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: by volume, set a blog post it would list nosis, 1496 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: allowing it to be traded among its users. That of 1497 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 1: course adds legitimacy and liquidity to the token and provides 1498 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,799 Speaker 1: a boost to the trading price. The price rises sharply 1499 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 1: from around three hundred to four hundred and ten dollars 1500 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,559 Speaker 1: within an hour. Then whatever whoever owns this anonymous wallet 1501 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,560 Speaker 1: sells and makes massive profit. And this is just one example. 1502 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 1: They found that this routinely happened where you had these 1503 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: extremely well timed, extremely well timed acquisitions and sales that 1504 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, if you were in a position to know 1505 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: what finance is going to do, you could certainly be 1506 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 1: in a position to profit off of it ultimately being 1507 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,600 Speaker 1: listed there. So then this of course goes along with 1508 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 1: the pump and dump schemes that we have seen routinely. 1509 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: You see Madison Cawtharn, you know, promoting the let's go 1510 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 1: Brandon coin and then you know they're able to profit 1511 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 1: and then the whole thing falls apart. They know that 1512 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 1: it's about to be picked up as or listed as 1513 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: a sponsor for this NASCAR driver. So they pump the thing, 1514 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 1: they get a bunch of people in, and then they're 1515 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: able to sell before the bottom falls out. So this 1516 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: is just I mean, you know, the thing that makes 1517 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 1: me really mad about it is because there are a 1518 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of just ordinary people, yeah I believe in, who 1519 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,600 Speaker 1: believe in the vision, who have been probably screwed in 1520 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: their financial life a million other ways, think maybe this 1521 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 1: is this is the thing that's going to get me ahead, 1522 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,600 Speaker 1: that's going to get me in the game, that's going 1523 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: to get me, you know, able to have a little 1524 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: bit of money in my savings account. They get suckered 1525 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: into this with a bunch of lies and promises and 1526 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 1: then they just get screwed over. And it's discussing it 1527 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,799 Speaker 1: does very much harken back to the days actually building 1528 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,639 Speaker 1: up to the Great depression you had for the first 1529 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 1: time Americans en mass dabbling in the stock market and 1530 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 1: being sold to spill of goods. Very similar. You can't lose, 1531 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,559 Speaker 1: it only goes up, and you can buy with this 1532 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 1: this amazing thing where you can buy on margin and like, 1533 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 1: so you can afford to get in here in a 1534 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 1: big way. Why wouldn't you do that, you're just leaving 1535 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 1: free money on the table. That was the rhetoric at 1536 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: the time. And so you had all these retail investors, who, 1537 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, prior to that it had been a very 1538 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: elite game to be involved in the stock market at all. 1539 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: You have them flooding into the zone and then that's 1540 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: part of, you know, the sort of irrational exuberance of 1541 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 1: the stock market that ultimately leads to this is one 1542 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: contributing factor, not the only one, but one contributing factor 1543 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 1: to this massive crash where people just got absolutely crushed. Yeah, 1544 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I feel very, very bad for the retail investors. And 1545 01:19:58,720 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people, you know, I hear 1546 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 1: it from people all the time. They're like, oh, do 1547 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 1: you know about safe Moon, or like do you know? 1548 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, listen, like you should really be 1549 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 1: careful whenever you try and dabble on this stuff. And 1550 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: I've got it, I've been burned many times. Just so 1551 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,920 Speaker 1: people know out there as well, I think what has 1552 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: always been I think for me, for a lot of 1553 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: people are on the in and it's exciting, it feels 1554 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 1: like you're on the verge of something new. But I've 1555 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: always known, you know, just given my own knowledge of 1556 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 1: history and more that there was a tremendous amount of 1557 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: obviously criminal behavior going on. And I actually think that 1558 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: the worst thing that happened to these people is that 1559 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 1: they started getting filthy rich, because that is when the 1560 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: feds are going to start to get involved. And like 1561 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,680 Speaker 1: when you have anonymous of crypto accounts and more that 1562 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: are worth you know, billions of dollars or hundreds of millions, 1563 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 1: they're going to come after you. But the FED should 1564 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: be involved. Oh no, I agree, should be no, no, no, 1565 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I support that because you shouldn't be allowed to get 1566 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 1: away with this. And the whole point of having a 1567 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 1: federal backstop is in guaranteeing integrity of markets, and so 1568 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: that is very lacking, especially in the DeFi to decentralized 1569 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,559 Speaker 1: financial space and more, when you have these stable coins 1570 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 1: that go to you know, like fluctuate down to like 1571 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 1: fifty percent, even though the whole reason you're supposed to 1572 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,679 Speaker 1: invest them as that they're pegged to the US dollar 1573 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 1: and there's some protocol which they tell you works, but 1574 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 1: apparently it doesn't work. The reason why I think that 1575 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: this matters too is there are there was a dream 1576 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 1: I think that this represented some sort of new financial frontier. 1577 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 1: But I think the reality that we're beginning to grapple 1578 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,479 Speaker 1: with now that NFT NFT crash has come and gone. 1579 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 1: Let's all be honest, right, massive crash within the space ethereum, Bitcoin, 1580 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: everything is dramatically down, just like the S and P 1581 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 1: five hundred and the Dow Jones. Is that a lot 1582 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 1: of these assets. While yes, I believe that they represent 1583 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,800 Speaker 1: the technological change and breakthrough in the ability to have 1584 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, blockchain transactions which cannot be questioned, which you 1585 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 1: could zip to each other, especially on lightning networks and 1586 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 1: other things that fundamentally, especially just right now in a 1587 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 1: United States like we do, need to have the ability 1588 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,679 Speaker 1: to have integrity within the market. Otherwise normal folks get burned. 1589 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 1: And especially this is the other thing I always think 1590 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 1: about with these guys like Nathan Chastey and others, the 1591 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 1: amount of documentation that you have to submit to any 1592 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 1: US financial institution. Do you really think you're smart enough 1593 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: to get away with this? They've been burning what was it, 1594 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Ross Olbricht who did the drug marketplace? I forget what 1595 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: it's called, God Road, Silk Road. Oh yeah, they busted 1596 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 1: it back in twenty thirteen, they will be able to 1597 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,160 Speaker 1: bust a bitcoin while you think they're not going to 1598 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: get you, like and the if you'd sign up for 1599 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 1: coinbaseed or any of these other things, you have to 1600 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 1: submit your license, you take the selfie and all this stuff. 1601 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,599 Speaker 1: It's just you know, you're not smarter than the Feds. 1602 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: And once you start making millions of dollars like this, 1603 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: like they're going to come after you, and they should. Yeah, 1604 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,559 Speaker 1: I think it's actually encouraging that they're that they're going 1605 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 1: out to this guy that they're because there were some 1606 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: questions about like, okay, do we have do our insider 1607 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: trading laws? Are they going to apply to these new 1608 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: financial sectors? And clearly Southern District in New York is 1609 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 1: making a very clear stand here that yes, just because 1610 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: it's crypto or NFT's, the same laws and rules apply here, 1611 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 1: and guys, you want them to listen. Lord knows we 1612 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 1: have our problems with the federal government here. But thegest 1613 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 1: problem if you put crypto NFT's the side and you 1614 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 1: think about our financial markets, like the biggest problems there 1615 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 1: came from deregulation when you had you know, after the 1616 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,919 Speaker 1: Great Depression, you have this, you know, instituting new rules 1617 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: to make the marketplaces boring, basically, to make the banking 1618 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 1: system really boring and keep the most speculative parts of 1619 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: it sort of sequestered off from just the normal banking 1620 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: And that actually was pretty successful, I mean, and had 1621 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 1: its flaws, it was pretty successful. It's when we start 1622 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 1: to deregulate and we make it just this wild casino 1623 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: that you know, anyone can do anything, that's when you 1624 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 1: end up with the massive crash that we see in 1625 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and others other crashes before that as well. 1626 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 1: So you want there to be regulation. You want the 1627 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: FEDS involved in making sure that there isn't just endemic 1628 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,600 Speaker 1: fraud and scams and insider trading. Because if it's a 1629 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 1: wild West kind of a situation, it is like a 1630 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: frontier town, wild West kind of situation. We'll guess who's 1631 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna win and who's going to prove it there It's 1632 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 1: going to be the people with you know, who are 1633 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: the most ruthless, who are the have the least scruples, 1634 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 1: who are the most immoral, and who are the craftiest fraudsters, 1635 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: not the ones who are creating the most you know, 1636 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 1: innovative product that it's going to transform the financial Yeah. 1637 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 1: I gotta say. I remember being approached about an NFT 1638 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,600 Speaker 1: before we launched, and I just remember thinking, yeah, you know, 1639 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: that's just not it. I'm glad I was right.