Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I
Speaker 1: am one half of your host Danny Fernandez, if he
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Speaker 1: Danis Schwartz. Thank you so much for having me. You
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Speaker 1: What do you what do you have for a caffeine?
Speaker 1: So much coffee and I cooke okay coffee, so you
Speaker 1: just straight like chug. I'm a black coffee drinker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best way. Yeah. I just I think I
Speaker 1: started doing it in high school and I've been doing
Speaker 1: it ever since. Yeah. I just I can't have dairy,
Speaker 1: so I know that I could have like the other
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Speaker 1: just tried the oat milk that we have here, so
Speaker 1: I'm new to oat milk, m coconut milk, though I'll
Speaker 1: sometimes treat myself and put that in there. I remember,
Speaker 1: like my first day in l A. I go to
Speaker 1: a coffee shop and I was like, hey, can I
Speaker 1: get like a latte with like non fat or like
Speaker 1: low fat, like two percent milk? And they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't have two percent have oat milk or hemp
Speaker 1: milk or almond milk. I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: I guess this is this is where I live now.
Speaker 1: Of course they didn't have two percent milk. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: who even ask how would they do that? Here? Well? Um,
Speaker 1: today we are talking about something that is near and
Speaker 1: dear to your heart. Um. You actually when I was
Speaker 1: asking you the things that you are into, you brought
Speaker 1: it up. And that's Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. I'm a big
Speaker 1: Sherlott comes man. I love mysteries. Sometimes I get in patient.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is I love mysteries. I don't
Speaker 1: usually like mystery books because I'm too impatient. I was
Speaker 1: skipped to the end. But short stories are the best.
Speaker 1: You're in, you're out. Yeah, but this is not a
Speaker 1: short story like Sherlock Holmes. Some of them are okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because the one that I was at first introduced too
Speaker 1: I told you was hown to the Baskerville. That's that's
Speaker 1: a book. Yeah, Okay, there's a lot of short stories.
Speaker 1: And then also, I mean the Sears. There's so many
Speaker 1: good adaptations. I'm pretty sure now it's like it must
Speaker 1: be in the public domain because so many people adapt him.
Speaker 1: But like, there's so many good and smart adaptations, and
Speaker 1: I think there's something so human about our want for
Speaker 1: a character who just is so smart and always right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what was your first introduction to him? I think
Speaker 1: reading middle school. I think in middle school I read
Speaker 1: a few. I read some of the short stories. So
Speaker 1: I read like The Speckled Band, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, what is this? And
Speaker 1: then I remember when I learned that house was Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Uh it blew my mind. I was like house homes. Also, technically,
Speaker 1: I would have to say my first introduction to him
Speaker 1: would be The Great Mouse Detective. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I bring that up right. I truly loved
Speaker 1: the Great mass dettech Basil of Baker stra Yes, and
Speaker 1: the villain was Ratigan. Ratigan he had a song. All
Speaker 1: villains should have songs, yes, and um, that creepy little
Speaker 1: Hobgoblin bat God was so good. Yeah. That's also the
Speaker 1: thing about Carlock Holmes is it brings out the best villains.
Speaker 1: Because the thing about Charlotte Holmes is it's so grounded,
Speaker 1: like it's so clearly takes place in the real world,
Speaker 1: but it's also this real world, like all of his murders,
Speaker 1: all the cases he solves, are like plausible, but it's
Speaker 1: also like a real world where people have like arch
Speaker 1: nemeses and super villains. So it's like we get our
Speaker 1: super villain fixed in a totally grounded way. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just remember the Hound of the Baskervilles terrified me. Oh,
Speaker 1: that one's so scary. Yeah. And I can't remember if
Speaker 1: there was some type of media adaption that I saw it.
Speaker 1: I can't if it was a show or something I
Speaker 1: also think of. I don't know if this was actually
Speaker 1: in it. But um, do you remember the Page Master.
Speaker 1: Is that the one with mccullo. Yes, yeah, yeah, Well
Speaker 1: they had Jacquel and Hide, but I can't remember if
Speaker 1: they also had um like a Sherlock Holmes reference in
Speaker 1: there as well. But that's what I think of. Um,
Speaker 1: So we should just dive into the history of our
Speaker 1: Private Detective that was created by British author Sir Arthur
Speaker 1: Conan Doyle. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Great mustache. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was a doctor originally, which I like. I like that,
Speaker 1: like him and Chekhov that sometimes there's just like men
Speaker 1: of medicine that are just like I shall write stories, right, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: have you read any of his other works? Yeah? I've
Speaker 1: read some of his other short stories actually, because I
Speaker 1: do um a podcast here called Noble Blood and one
Speaker 1: of the uh, Arthur Conan Doyle loved Weird History and
Speaker 1: the Occult, and so one of the episodes I'm doing,
Speaker 1: we share he and I shared a proclivity for a
Speaker 1: certain weird historical case that he wrote about a lot.
Speaker 1: And what I also like about him is he sort
Speaker 1: of hated Sherlock Holmes really so he it's like the
Speaker 1: first instance of toxic fandom. Yeah, so he wrote Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 1: I was kind of mad at how successful it got,
Speaker 1: and he was really angry that that was the thing
Speaker 1: he was getting known for. Oh that makes sense that
Speaker 1: like maybe he had other works that he like, why
Speaker 1: don't you guys into this? You're into this, dude? Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like I just wrote this one, but like I'm
Speaker 1: writing all these other things. And so then he killed
Speaker 1: Charlock Holmes off at the Rick and back falls, but
Speaker 1: then the fans were so angry. The fans were outraged
Speaker 1: that then years later he brought her He had Sherlock
Speaker 1: comes like catch a branch and survived the falling to
Speaker 1: his death. He's like, alright, alright, and type type type
Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes actually survived and he's back. I just love
Speaker 1: the idea because we didn't have social media, people just
Speaker 1: like shouting in the streets colms. But right, can't you
Speaker 1: so see that like a character could would be so
Speaker 1: beloved that the author kills them off and then fans
Speaker 1: are so outrage that they bring them back. So you
Speaker 1: were asking about my tattoos and the dragonball Z tattoos
Speaker 1: and vegeta, who's this character that it happened to him
Speaker 1: exactly a curritory ama. The creator killed him off and
Speaker 1: he was like everybody's favorite. He was just supposed to
Speaker 1: be a villain. He was just supposed to be there
Speaker 1: for like one or two story arcs and saga's and
Speaker 1: he's now and I can like they're do He's normally
Speaker 1: placed up alongside the main character. He's been there for
Speaker 1: decades now. He's like, he's my favorite. So he's he
Speaker 1: became went from being a side character to being like
Speaker 1: the one of the main characters. Um. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: like brought him back, and I think it was the
Speaker 1: same thing. He hates him. Everybody knows that about him.
Speaker 1: He hates him because he gives him like the worst
Speaker 1: story line and he refuses to let him excel past
Speaker 1: a certain point. But like, fans would die if he
Speaker 1: wasn't around. So I'm reading this this bit from his
Speaker 1: Wikipedia because I was curious how they framed it, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was less colorful than I imagine they were. Like.
Speaker 1: In December, to dedicate more of his time to his
Speaker 1: historical novels, Doyle had Homes and Professor Moriality plunged to
Speaker 1: their deaths together down in the Reichenback Falls. Uh. Public outcry, however,
Speaker 1: led him to feature homes in one in the novel
Speaker 1: The Hound of the Baskervilles. So he's like, all right, fine.
Speaker 1: So Sherlock Holmes first appeared in print in eight seven
Speaker 1: a study in Scarlet. Do you remember that one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that actually is um if you saw the Sherlock
Speaker 1: adaptation on the BBC Benedict Cumberband. Yes, the first episode
Speaker 1: of that is a study in pink. Okay, there's something
Speaker 1: so fascinating about, um, a mystery that is presented and
Speaker 1: solved too in a satisfying way. Like we love that
Speaker 1: with every story, Like even non mystery stories, aren't they
Speaker 1: always just plots that are resolved in a clever way
Speaker 1: that make you go ah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: We had throw up Van orman on who is a director.
Speaker 1: He created Flapjock on Cartoon Network but also he directed
Speaker 1: The Angry Birds, and he was saying something about features,
Speaker 1: how um, they shouldn't leave you like same with novels,
Speaker 1: like they you should feel um completed at the end
Speaker 1: of them essentially um. And I love that he said,
Speaker 1: like it shouldn't leave you actually guessing for more so
Speaker 1: I guess some cliffhangers are not some like movie cliffhangers.
Speaker 1: So something about Sherlock Holmes. He is in a Guinness
Speaker 1: Book of World Records as being the most portrayed movie character.
Speaker 1: I think that has today with him being in public
Speaker 1: domain right where it's like everyone can can take their
Speaker 1: take a crack at him. Yeah, yeah, and so many parodies,
Speaker 1: and obviously he's been referenced in like every TV show ever.
Speaker 1: Um oh, I didn't know this, it says Conan Doyle
Speaker 1: wrote the first Carlock Comes novel when he was twenty seven,
Speaker 1: in less than three weeks, which I hate. What is
Speaker 1: everyone else doing with their lives? I'm so mad? I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate to like you could do that. I feel like,
Speaker 1: lock yourself away for how was it three weeks? Just
Speaker 1: lock yourself away? You could totally do it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I still have a year to do it to make
Speaker 1: my Sherlock Holmes. So before we dive into more of
Speaker 1: his books, can you talk to people about the character
Speaker 1: of Sherlock, Like, what does he like? His personality? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's hard to pin that down because obviously there's
Speaker 1: been so many permutations of him that I feel like
Speaker 1: it would almost be limiting to only talk about the
Speaker 1: book Sherlock Holmes, because I feel like Sherlock Holmes has
Speaker 1: become a character of the popular imagination, right, Like he's
Speaker 1: bigger than he is in the books. In the books,
Speaker 1: people like to point out like he uses drugs, but
Speaker 1: like you know he uses ah, well, he smokes his pipe,
Speaker 1: his pipe and he does some opium and uh he
Speaker 1: he is famously um Kurt and per s nickitty with people,
Speaker 1: and there's whether or not regardless. Some people read sexual
Speaker 1: tension with Watson, which I don't think was in the
Speaker 1: original intent of the book. But of course going back
Speaker 1: you can always read that in uh the biggest wait,
Speaker 1: I wanted to pause on that moment, So like that
Speaker 1: has been Have people talked about that? Yeah? I feel
Speaker 1: like people go back to the text and try to
Speaker 1: especially we'll talk about this, but like Sherlock the TV show,
Speaker 1: people are huge shippers with John Lock, right John and
Speaker 1: uh and Sherlock is that they should be together, and
Speaker 1: so I feel like people do go back to the
Speaker 1: text and they're like, see blah blah blah, look they're together, um,
Speaker 1: which you know maybe who knows. And people play with that,
Speaker 1: right because there was that elementary where they made Wanton
Speaker 1: Lucy lou So sometimes like yeah, yeah, you're right. I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think a burdener any situation. It can
Speaker 1: be whatever you wanted to be. Yeah, although I would
Speaker 1: love to see like an actually gay one, like an
Speaker 1: explicitly gay one. That would be fun. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: will probably. I mean, it's such a it's I mean,
Speaker 1: with everybody making taking these I p s, I feel
Speaker 1: like we'll get another Sherlock coming up. It's crazy that
Speaker 1: we haven't that we haven't had a gay Sherlock. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like it's people gay Sherlock, gay Sherlock. We've had
Speaker 1: a young Sherlock. We're ready for gay Shortock. But so
Speaker 1: Sherlock as a character, I think his most like telling
Speaker 1: uh quote. And I'm paraphrasing completely because I do I'm
Speaker 1: not Sherlock Holmes. I don't have quotes memorized. But there
Speaker 1: is an exerpt from one of the stories where he's
Speaker 1: describing his brain and he talks about how he doesn't
Speaker 1: know he like can identify a hundred and thirty cigars
Speaker 1: by their ash, but he doesn't know that the Earth
Speaker 1: revolves around the Sun. And he's like, well, it doesn't
Speaker 1: help me in my detective work to like know that
Speaker 1: workings the planets, but it does help me to identify ash.
Speaker 1: And he's like, my brain is like an attic and
Speaker 1: there's only so much space, and I put keep important
Speaker 1: things there that helped meself crimes. So that's the way
Speaker 1: you sort of define the characters. He is someone who
Speaker 1: has shed off all extraneous knowledge and social skills and
Speaker 1: social niceties and to presuve of his brain to fight crime.
Speaker 1: He kind of comes off as like rude or brash, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he doesn't he doesn't care about that he's shed
Speaker 1: social niceties. He just wants to solve solve murders. What
Speaker 1: I take away from that quote is that he's not
Speaker 1: focused on like um, bigger, like larger. He's like focused
Speaker 1: on the minute, like tiny small details that people would miss. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's exactly. It's very Monk. We love God, we love
Speaker 1: a a really smart detective. I mean like Sharrock Comps.
Speaker 1: Is that the foundation for so many TV shows like Monk,
Speaker 1: like Psych, like any any detective show, Owes owes it
Speaker 1: to Sherlock because you need the genius, and then you
Speaker 1: need the sidekick who's the audience proxy who asks the questions,
Speaker 1: because Sherlock will be like, Okay, onto the you know, Miller's,
Speaker 1: and then we need John to be the audience to say, like, wait,
Speaker 1: how did you know we're supposed to go to the Millers?
Speaker 1: And then he explains, yeah, so can you talk about Watson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Watson is a military doctor. In the original book, he
Speaker 1: came back from like the Anglo Afghanistan War. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was Afghanistan back then, but Middle East War
Speaker 1: in Victorian times, and he needs a place to live
Speaker 1: in his mutual friends like try the flattered to make
Speaker 1: Surelock Holmes and the books most of them, with the
Speaker 1: exception of one or two. And don't quote me on that,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure there's one or two exceptions. Most
Speaker 1: of them are written as if from from John's personct.
Speaker 1: We're reading his eccentric detective he stumbled upon, Yes, his
Speaker 1: friend who does amazing things. And there's even a quote
Speaker 1: that Sherlock says, where he goes, I would be lost
Speaker 1: without my balls Well referencing uh, Samuel Peeps and and
Speaker 1: Boswell Boswell who like wrote everything that he's doing. Um,
Speaker 1: Johnson and Boswell. Sorry not Samuel Peeps was a diarist. God,
Speaker 1: it's I need more caffeine, Boswell wrote, Samuel Johnson with
Speaker 1: the diarist, and so he is the one wunting Sherlock,
Speaker 1: so he functions as the narrator proxy. So we get
Speaker 1: to see Sherlock work through John's perspective and John as
Speaker 1: he's usually portrayed, is the human side. What are some
Speaker 1: of your favorite stories of his? Well, God, I I
Speaker 1: do want to talk. If we can to move to
Speaker 1: Sherlock on the b like the BBC Agitation, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was the first time where like I feel
Speaker 1: like Sherlock had a fandom because I feel like everyone
Speaker 1: kind of just like like Sherlock Humbs stories growing up,
Speaker 1: and like I liked him fine, Like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: those are fun short stories, but it wasn't like I
Speaker 1: felt like any emotional kinship to it. And I think
Speaker 1: it jumped the shark a little bit. But when it
Speaker 1: first came out and I was like streaming them illegally
Speaker 1: in America because out yet, I was like, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: have you seen this? Have you seen this? Bennett Cumberbatch
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing yet, right I only they knew him.
Speaker 1: We didn't know him they but I mean he was
Speaker 1: starting to become known, he was starting to come down.
Speaker 1: We didn't know him. I mean, I'm sure he was
Speaker 1: doing things in England. He's in a few things. I
Speaker 1: had no idea who he was. He was just this gorgeous,
Speaker 1: cheekbone walking cheekbone. He looks like Sherlock Holmes. Martin Freeman looked. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was kind of familiar. He was the guy from
Speaker 1: Love actually, and he was the guy from the British Office.
Speaker 1: He plays the gym equivalent in the British Office. Um,
Speaker 1: and it was just amazing. It was also the first
Speaker 1: series where oh, and they both are in the m
Speaker 1: c U. Oh yeah, now they're both in the m
Speaker 1: c uan. It's good for them. I'm sorry, that's where
Speaker 1: my brain went when you said his name. They know
Speaker 1: fully they both had there. Also, when you said that
Speaker 1: you streamed illegally, totally did that with Pride and Prejudice.
Speaker 1: ABC version could not. I mean I just sat in
Speaker 1: like as I don't know, middle school or teenage Danny
Speaker 1: or whatever, just sat watching it in my bedroom like
Speaker 1: all weekend. I could not get it legally, had to
Speaker 1: extreme it. And then I remember because I became a
Speaker 1: fan of it when only the first season was out, um,
Speaker 1: and there was a massive cliffhanger. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have you seen the Sherlock know so I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil anything, even though everyone should see it by now,
Speaker 1: even out for like well over a decade yea like
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Season You're Good one and season two both
Speaker 1: end with massive cliffhangers, and I was so mad that
Speaker 1: I had to wait like a year and a half
Speaker 1: for that to be resolved or longer even And now
Speaker 1: it's like on goddamn Netflix, and people just like like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder what happens, And I was like, you didn't
Speaker 1: suffer like I suffer. I was. I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out that like VPN stuff to be able to
Speaker 1: watch because and in England you get please don't arrest me,
Speaker 1: but they get like BBC I Player, and I was
Speaker 1: so desperate to see it. I was that was like
Speaker 1: I had that like fandom heart flutters for those I
Speaker 1: would think. So my favorite episode there, which I think
Speaker 1: is a perfect episode, is the season two finale um
Speaker 1: where I kind of wish that the show ended there.
Speaker 1: I know I'm one of those like you're always like like,
Speaker 1: of course you need more and it's so good, but
Speaker 1: I always get you never know you're in the good
Speaker 1: old days until you saw your Glee, your Glee tweets.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. Back Late Lee peeked and
Speaker 1: it was like a shooting star. It was here and
Speaker 1: then it was gone. The Glee pilot is one of
Speaker 1: the best pilots, and then the show went so off
Speaker 1: the rails. Yeah, I was never super into it, but
Speaker 1: I do enjoy their soundtrack on Spotify that, unfortunately, I think,
Speaker 1: is what what did them in? Oh No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's like people I feel like that, don't even watch it,
Speaker 1: but just but just start listening to them on Spotify.
Speaker 1: I think that when they realized how much money they
Speaker 1: were making covers of recent songs, they just started like
Speaker 1: squeezing songs and we're like in the first episodes, like
Speaker 1: the first season few I think only the first season,
Speaker 1: like before it was a major hit. They just sang
Speaker 1: like Journey songs, like one or two songs in the episode,
Speaker 1: and then they just squeezed as many popheads as they
Speaker 1: could in to put on iTunes. I'm sorry, yeah, Advy,
Speaker 1: it's my fault. We have to take a really quick
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna hop back into Sherlock Holmes
Speaker 1: right after this, and we are back. This time we
Speaker 1: are joined by the one and only if you, Hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going, how's everyone feeling? Thanks for popping in.
Speaker 1: You missed the first time you missed the tiny bit
Speaker 1: about Sherlock. Yeah, but it's things that I'm sure that
Speaker 1: you already knew. No, not at all. I didn't want Sherlock.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no I was, but I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it all the way from the only
Speaker 1: BBC shows really hitting it off with was Doctor Who
Speaker 1: in Torchlight and then Sherlock. All the height was there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of crossover with Uvians and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I should, but I was like, nah, did you
Speaker 1: ever read any fan fiction? Um? No, I'm because I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan fiction person. I know I've apologished, but
Speaker 1: I did. I have seen a lot of like fan
Speaker 1: art on tumblers, in the tumbler memes that was like
Speaker 1: it was so here and precious for a little while,
Speaker 1: and then the fandom went, wait, so what happened with
Speaker 1: the fandom? Um, this is we're still talking about the
Speaker 1: BBC shelt I mean, they just went crazy. Don't don't
Speaker 1: get mad at me, because I'm part of you. But
Speaker 1: I think like there was like this obsession with Beternet
Speaker 1: Cumberbatch's so hot and like John Mark something in the
Speaker 1: first part that I missed that got bit at it.
Speaker 1: Do you mean hot in like a figurative since people.
Speaker 1: That's because he's sort of like he's like attainable hot.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like nerod intellecture, right, He's like not
Speaker 1: jock hot. You feel like if you met him at
Speaker 1: a bookstore, you have shot. No. Yeah, but I also
Speaker 1: feel like he would try to teach me things. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of into that though. Oh my gosh, no data
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna like man's that are gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh I see you with your I'm taking a dead shirt.
Speaker 1: Man's playing, Man's playing. Okay, okay, okay, that's my my
Speaker 1: warning to anyone listening. Please don't don't slide into my
Speaker 1: m So when I tell you that I'm sort of
Speaker 1: into like the older professor, that's true. That's true. Um okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so the fandom went a little wild, yes, Like he
Speaker 1: was wearing this purple shirt in one episode and it
Speaker 1: kind of like bulged across his chest and they call
Speaker 1: it the purple shirt of sex. If you wait, what
Speaker 1: purple shirt of set that, it will come up look
Speaker 1: at it. Hope, Wow, it is him right right, that's it,
Speaker 1: because that's all it took for the oh Man. They
Speaker 1: need to watch porns like I know, because it's just
Speaker 1: that's all it took to get excited. I wish what
Speaker 1: world do I live is? It's just like a kind
Speaker 1: of tight shirt. It's barely Also if you put the
Speaker 1: search purple shirt of it goes sexiness of Sherlock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a thing. So it was this like fixation
Speaker 1: on the minut show. And then the show sort of
Speaker 1: leaned into the fandom by making him sexier, yes, and
Speaker 1: like teasing him with sexiness like I haven't given him
Speaker 1: like a fake love interest for an episode. And then
Speaker 1: they also did this thing where they faked his death
Speaker 1: allow breaking back falls and then they like make it
Speaker 1: like oh, fans have no idea the explanation then like
Speaker 1: they it was very meta how they explained him faking
Speaker 1: his own death, and so fans got in the same
Speaker 1: way that Sherlock. So Sherlock has made um the same
Speaker 1: show runner for a time as Doctor Who Stephen Moffatt
Speaker 1: to a lot of Doctor Who fanned and Sherlock fans
Speaker 1: feel very betrayed by Stephen Moffatt. He'd give it then
Speaker 1: to take it away. He ruined Sherlock and like what
Speaker 1: he created Sherlock was the fake death episodes have something
Speaker 1: to do with like a waterfall or something. No, that's
Speaker 1: in the books, Okay, because I saw like some like
Speaker 1: Sherlock fan art and it was like bennerdet Common botch
Speaker 1: walking and there was like a waterfall there and everyone,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, yeah, that's the thing. Well
Speaker 1: in the in the books, he is in a fistfight
Speaker 1: with with Professor Moriarty and they both tumbled to their
Speaker 1: deaths or do they ten years later or you know,
Speaker 1: Arthur brings up bringing back In the series, he jumps
Speaker 1: off a hospital building, but he survives. Yeah. Can you
Speaker 1: talk about Sherlock the history of Sherlock with women? Oh yes,
Speaker 1: so in the book he's almost totally a sexual okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: just he just is a like a machine, machine computer,
Speaker 1: just he doesn't exist. People in adaptations don't really like
Speaker 1: that because they're like, I don't know, it's more fun
Speaker 1: to give him a love interest, and so they give him.
Speaker 1: Usually Irene Adler is the female love interest because she's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like beautiful and can best homes and
Speaker 1: in wits and uh, what is her profession? She's like
Speaker 1: an socialite actors? God, right, this is like, wait, don't
Speaker 1: you love that they? I totally forgot that we had
Speaker 1: those back then. And everyone gives people in our generation
Speaker 1: crap for being influencers, and there were literally had social
Speaker 1: life as as you're like, right, she was like an
Speaker 1: actress or like an opera singer. Maybe she's only in
Speaker 1: one story, she's only in a scandal, but she she
Speaker 1: has She and Holmes have sort of this like flirty
Speaker 1: tete a tete, and then he kind of references her sometimes,
Speaker 1: so people always like are like, oh, he holds a
Speaker 1: flame for her, But I kind of more think it
Speaker 1: was like an intellectual thing and I almost prefer Sherlock
Speaker 1: Holmes as as a sexual and you don't give that
Speaker 1: to him. And then but people like the Robert Downey Jr. One,
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted him to have that fun, flirtatious
Speaker 1: thing with Rachel McAdams, which is fun, you know, because
Speaker 1: I'm not a snob when it comes to fandom. I'm
Speaker 1: Sharla comes as a character. You're not going to ruin him.
Speaker 1: I think you can take him and have fun and
Speaker 1: do what you want with him. And the books are
Speaker 1: still going to exist, and other adaptations are still going
Speaker 1: to exist. So if someone goes, well, my Sherlock Holmes
Speaker 1: is x y Z, I'm like, great power to you.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a snob in that regard at all.
Speaker 1: Like with Star Wars and stuff, like I love the
Speaker 1: Ridge Triage um and people are like, oh, the Prequels
Speaker 1: ruined it. It's like, no, they didn't. They're just their
Speaker 1: own thing. They didn't ruin anything. Yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: thousand percent true. But just before we move on, I
Speaker 1: do like that idea of like in a sexual detective,
Speaker 1: because I imagine like a character like Sherlock would be
Speaker 1: so annoying to date, like oh yeah, I just like
Speaker 1: you just all no cap like just someone who's just
Speaker 1: a hyper detective and always trying to crack a case.
Speaker 1: I just imagine that gets boring on I mean annoying
Speaker 1: on the day to day and you're just like, no,
Speaker 1: oh god, he would be the worst to date, truly,
Speaker 1: because like if you've ever dated someone who puts their
Speaker 1: work before you, he would always put his work before you.
Speaker 1: I thought you looked at me, did you watch any
Speaker 1: house a little? But I caught it one. I think
Speaker 1: he had love interests and yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I watched episodes, but I didn't watch regularly enough to
Speaker 1: get an arc. But like you know, sometimes it's fun
Speaker 1: to give him a love interest and sometimes like right,
Speaker 1: like I love me some Rachel McAdams Like that was fun. Um,
Speaker 1: she's also the connecting I'm sorry I have to bring
Speaker 1: up MC you again, but yeah, she's yeah, see wired,
Speaker 1: like Rachel McAdams is um doctor Strange's love interest, and
Speaker 1: so that's Benedict Cumberbatch who plays Sugar Sherlock Holmes, and
Speaker 1: then she's Sherlock's Holmes love interests in Robert Downey Jr's
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, who's with iron Man? Who is
Speaker 1: iron Man? Yeah? So just hopping straight into that right welcome. Um, wow,
Speaker 1: has every actor who's played Carla comes got been in
Speaker 1: the MC? Or is just every actor now in the
Speaker 1: m C? There you go? Uh so we have In
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, Sherlock Holmes came out starring, uh, starring
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. It was directed by Guy Ritchie Heels
Speaker 1: of like iron Man too, so like r DJ was hot. Um.
Speaker 1: We also had Jude Law who was This was very
Speaker 1: fascinating for me to have him as Watson, because I
Speaker 1: always figured Watson was like a I'm sorry, I'm going
Speaker 1: back to the great mouse detective, and that was who
Speaker 1: shaped Like, that's kind of what I thought him as,
Speaker 1: like not bumbling, because but he's like the straight man,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, not as sophisticated, not as Debonair.
Speaker 1: He's not as dobb Debonair as Sherlock, And so that
Speaker 1: was fascinating to have. How did you like this adaptation?
Speaker 1: I think Robert Downey Jr. Is really fun and I
Speaker 1: like him, and I think he just uses charisma. I
Speaker 1: almost think he's too charismatic for Holmes. He's too funny,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's too um yeah, like
Speaker 1: not sexy. He exudes to sexual energy. He could wink
Speaker 1: and pull it off, and I don't think Sherlock Comes
Speaker 1: would know how to wink. And I think Jude Law
Speaker 1: is also she's sexy for Watson, but then again it's Hollywood. Look,
Speaker 1: they gave him a love interest. They made them both
Speaker 1: sexy and charming. I'm like, all right, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: Jude Law, when I look at this picture of him,
Speaker 1: like he could have been Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, I almost
Speaker 1: kind of wish he was. He looks a little more academic,
Speaker 1: doesn't he like a little like Nerdier, Like he spends
Speaker 1: more time reading. Yeah. Yeah, So this was based on
Speaker 1: the story that you were talking about. So this particular film,
Speaker 1: did it include a past Sherlock Holmes story from Sir
Speaker 1: Arthur Conan Doyle. You know what it included was I
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil like the came out in two
Speaker 1: thousand thing. It's totally fine, everybody, I'm sorry. But also
Speaker 1: it won't take away from the film if you know
Speaker 1: parts of it. So you know, Irene Adler, it's a
Speaker 1: totally different character then she is in the series, because
Speaker 1: again she's barely in the series. But Mark Strong plays
Speaker 1: a villain who dabbles in the occult, and like his
Speaker 1: whole villain thing is, he's like, the occult is real
Speaker 1: and spoiler alert, it's not um. But Arthur kinn and
Speaker 1: Doyle was super into the occult. He like loved it
Speaker 1: and wrote about it all the time and wrote weird things.
Speaker 1: So I feel like they pulled uh from that really strongly,
Speaker 1: which was fun. And I do feel like they different
Speaker 1: directors and different adaptations choose different devices to show Charlotte
Speaker 1: comes thinking, because like how do you externalized thought? And
Speaker 1: in this one we got a voice over and slow moo.
Speaker 1: In the BBC version it shows up as text on
Speaker 1: the screen, Like he gets like a little robot. He
Speaker 1: gets to like analyze things. So I just like that
Speaker 1: different directors have different approaches, you know. I think the
Speaker 1: voiceover kind of worked. I thought it was like a
Speaker 1: fun device that he would be like in slow motion,
Speaker 1: like see things play out and we get the voice
Speaker 1: over and then it would happen in fast motion. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's fun. That's a great move. Uh. I
Speaker 1: find it also fascinating that Robert Downey Jr. Played to
Speaker 1: people that were kind of had issues with women and
Speaker 1: money and drugs. Yes, well people love the drug stuff
Speaker 1: with saw Holmes, which just look barely in the original story.
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of because well, it's because he's
Speaker 1: too square that, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 1: needs advice. He can't be like this perfect robotic man
Speaker 1: that isn't tempted by anything. Well why can his vice
Speaker 1: be Like he's bad at social interaction. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think there's something about him. I think it humanizes him
Speaker 1: in some ways, you know, when it makes it so
Speaker 1: he's not like this perfect so he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you survive every night when you're going to
Speaker 1: bed by yourself, when you're you know, if you think
Speaker 1: of the life of this man, maybe he is actually
Speaker 1: lonely and he's taking part in other things. I've read
Speaker 1: that he's not great with money, which is why is
Speaker 1: that sometimes why he takes these cases. And that's also
Speaker 1: why he needs a room, which is adorable. He's a
Speaker 1: middle aged man with the roommate, so he's a flatmate. Also,
Speaker 1: he one of his vices is he gets really bored easily,
Speaker 1: which like he's so smart that he shoots things into
Speaker 1: the into the wall in the series. I think it's
Speaker 1: a smiley face in the book. What is it? It's
Speaker 1: I think he's it's like he does like his her
Speaker 1: royal highness. He does like initials, but he's just like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an adequate read on like violence and um,
Speaker 1: like he likes murders too much, and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a read on like causing damage and destruction in his
Speaker 1: daily life, which is fun. And then also he does cocaine.
Speaker 1: But remember in the Victorian times, everyone was doing cocaine.
Speaker 1: It was like and it was like coffee. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: like give it two babies and give your babies some
Speaker 1: tonic and it was like heroin. Yeah, what about Sherlock
Speaker 1: Holmes A Game of Shadows? Did you enjoy that? Um
Speaker 1: that came out in also directed by Guy Ritchie. I
Speaker 1: didn't like that one quite as much. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a bit jump the sharky. How did it jump
Speaker 1: the I love Jared Harris, so he's Moriarty and I
Speaker 1: really really love Jared Harris, uh doing anything. What I
Speaker 1: didn't like in this movie version is they brought Irene
Speaker 1: Adler back, who I always just think is stronger in
Speaker 1: the periphery because when you bring in like a female
Speaker 1: love interest, it just to me seems a little pandery.
Speaker 1: It's like, see women can be tough to I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it always comes across the little pandery. And I
Speaker 1: think my Croft, who Sherlock's brother, wasn't quite right here,
Speaker 1: even though I do like Stephen Fry And then they
Speaker 1: do them this one is the Game of Shadows is
Speaker 1: the Sherlotte comes like face his own death one which
Speaker 1: you know we've just I've seen so many times, like
Speaker 1: that's a story that people do a lot, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, but if they're doing the sequel,
Speaker 1: he's coming He's coming back spoiler alert. So what are
Speaker 1: some of the other that we hopped to the BBC
Speaker 1: version and then the film version, But what are some
Speaker 1: of the other stories from Sherlock that you like that
Speaker 1: would like stand out to you? Oh? You know, I
Speaker 1: always come back to the Speckled Band because that was
Speaker 1: on one I read when I was really young, and
Speaker 1: that was one of the first ones where I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, things can be weird because the I'm
Speaker 1: going to give it away, but it's it's been so long,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the spoiler spoiler hundreds. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: the death was caused by a snake with spots on it, Okay,
Speaker 1: And it's just it seems so silly to me at
Speaker 1: the time that as a writer you're allowed to do
Speaker 1: things like that. That that made me really excited as
Speaker 1: a child. So I love I love that. I love
Speaker 1: when things come out of left field and you just
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, they get to make things up. That's
Speaker 1: what writers get to do. And it also feels very
Speaker 1: modern and like a lot of when you're young and
Speaker 1: you read like a lot of Victorian nurture. It feels
Speaker 1: very mannered and just like the fact that someone referred
Speaker 1: to a snake as a speckled band is just so
Speaker 1: like childish almost that you you totally get it. You're like, ah,
Speaker 1: I'm reading here now that um they're doing. So. There
Speaker 1: was a young adult series called The Nola Holmes about
Speaker 1: his little sister who's fictional. She's not in the When
Speaker 1: did that come out? Um, like two thousand six? Cute? Um,
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be with Millie Bobby Brown, and we
Speaker 1: have going to be a movie I think as many
Speaker 1: a series, a mini series, not mini series, maybe just
Speaker 1: upcoming mystery film, no film, okay, but this was an
Speaker 1: actual book series that yeah, it was a book series
Speaker 1: with Now it's going to have Henry Cavill as Sherlock.
Speaker 1: It's like young sexy Sherlock again. I like in terms
Speaker 1: of adaptations, wait, no, oh, are we wait Henry Cavill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's too hot, He's way too hot. These are this
Speaker 1: is wait. Who would you cast? Okay, who would you cast?
Speaker 1: Knowing the actors that we have today? Oh god? And
Speaker 1: if young you know, it would be a good young
Speaker 1: sherlot who he's American, so they would get mad. They
Speaker 1: never but I guess Robert Downe Jr. Is American. Timothy
Speaker 1: Shallow has the totally because right he looks like if
Speaker 1: you must have his hair, that he was up all
Speaker 1: night doing cocaine right well, and he's in he's in
Speaker 1: Little Women? Is that is that American? Okay? Never mind? Um,
Speaker 1: you know I saw how they treated when we had
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones diary. That was a big that was controversial,
Speaker 1: having Rene's selwigger step into that. You know, British people
Speaker 1: do American things totally. Tom Holland, Yeah, Tom Holland, um
Speaker 1: and brought to be our favorite American neighborhood spider man.
Speaker 1: So Timothy Shalom, he has the look. But now I
Speaker 1: want to think of a British person who's like British
Speaker 1: and oh, Donald Gleeson, Okay, don't don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's don't know, don't know Gleeson. He also seems like
Speaker 1: he could do cocaine and selve mysteries. The thing I
Speaker 1: like about Timothy Shalomy is that he seems like he
Speaker 1: would be he could play that like so neurotic detective
Speaker 1: character you have to talk like doesn't care about women
Speaker 1: and actually just wants to, like, you know, solve this thing.
Speaker 1: And we're off to the laboratory. Um if you who
Speaker 1: would you cast? American, British or otherwise? Um? Yeah, good
Speaker 1: with Timmy Tim? I think, yeah, that's your friend, your
Speaker 1: friends with Timmy Tim Tim. Yeah, he's a cool cat.
Speaker 1: He's more friends with kid Catty. Now he's posting pictures that.
Speaker 1: All right, you are kid Cutty is cooler than me.
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be too much to have
Speaker 1: Daniel Radford Radcliffe? Daniel Radcliffe give him a new franchise? Right,
Speaker 1: ell say our friend? Oh do you know who I
Speaker 1: would love? He's going to be Batman, so he's not
Speaker 1: going to do it. But I do love Robert Pattinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of weird looking, and it would be
Speaker 1: he is super weird. They kind of need to be weird.
Speaker 1: You gotta be We can't just be hot. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: gotta be a little. The weirdness makes them hot. Henry
Speaker 1: cavill is not weird at all. I wonder if he
Speaker 1: can pull it, but that's we'll see, because remember people
Speaker 1: felt that way about Robert and I just think we
Speaker 1: are people like, oh, he's like from Twilight. They study
Speaker 1: he was hot. I'm like, no, he's a good actor,
Speaker 1: especially if you see good time and stuff. But see
Speaker 1: my thing with Henry cavill Is, Like we're talking about
Speaker 1: that jock hot and cavill Is he has the jaw
Speaker 1: of a jock. Yeah, he looks like he would stuff
Speaker 1: you in a locker and Sherlock comes has to be
Speaker 1: a nerd, has to be has to be tall, has
Speaker 1: to be gaunt because he's too busy, like he wouldn't
Speaker 1: he's too busy to work out. He can't look like
Speaker 1: he goes to the gym. He's too busy studying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like Henry cavill Is. Who is um if
Speaker 1: if they were, if they're that obsessed with like jock energy,
Speaker 1: I would go with what's his face? He wasn't call
Speaker 1: me by your name? With Tim and Tay Army no army,
Speaker 1: young arm like armand can probably get away with it
Speaker 1: because he got that's felt fit. Yeah, Henry is superman Bill.
Speaker 1: He is like and he's doing like the Witcher, so
Speaker 1: he's still going to be built for that. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I just thought of the perfect person. Rammi Malick, Oh
Speaker 1: so twitchy. Sorry, I got fascinating. No, but I mean, like,
Speaker 1: neither is Robert Downey Jr. Everyone's just listening to our
Speaker 1: fan cast. And he can do Queen so he yeah,
Speaker 1: and he and he did Mr. Robot, which is detective.
Speaker 1: So he's already been like a detective and he's Freddie
Speaker 1: Mercury's British. Oh yeah, yeah, so did I didn't really
Speaker 1: remember watching this, But did Robert Downey Jr. Have an accent?
Speaker 1: And Okay, I mean he was Okay, let's go. He
Speaker 1: did it? Um And I mean Jude Law would have
Speaker 1: been a good Sherlock Holmes, Rammi Malick, Rommy Malock. He
Speaker 1: would be good. He would be really good. He totally
Speaker 1: has like the like the intensity intensity and like you
Speaker 1: feel like he was up all night reading. Oh he
Speaker 1: would be so possibly doing drugs. Yeah, I will tell
Speaker 1: you my least favorite shark come that uptation. So let
Speaker 1: me take you on a bit of a story. I
Speaker 1: was a humble young film critic for Entertainment Weekly and uh,
Speaker 1: as a Jews, I didn't have plans on Christmas, and
Speaker 1: my editors asked me if I wouldn't mind terribly going
Speaker 1: to see and review a movie that was coming out
Speaker 1: on Christmas because the movie had zero press screenings, which
Speaker 1: is always a bad sign when they're not gonna let
Speaker 1: press and critics see the movie before it comes out.
Speaker 1: Bad sign. But since I have no plans on Christmas,
Speaker 1: traditionally the song of my pupils to go see movies anyway,
Speaker 1: I was like, sure, I'll take one for the team.
Speaker 1: So Latin two thousand eighteen, Christmas Day, Young Danish Wards
Speaker 1: goes alone to the Grove Movie Theater and sees Holmes
Speaker 1: and Watson, starring Will Ferrell and John c Riley. And
Speaker 1: it was truly the worst movie I've ever seen. Man,
Speaker 1: they're so great together. I feel like maybe they relied
Speaker 1: on improv vers so I didn't see it. I think
Speaker 1: that was it. I think they had this idea of
Speaker 1: just like, hey, what have we put on silly hats
Speaker 1: and just talked and made jokes, And it might have
Speaker 1: been good if they if the movie was good, But
Speaker 1: it was so bad. It was so bad. And I
Speaker 1: saw it alone and the theater was silent and people there. Yeah, surprisingly,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure as I was leaving, I overheard
Speaker 1: someone else be like that was the worst piece of
Speaker 1: piece of bleep I've ever seen. The film was nominated
Speaker 1: for six Razzies and won four of them, including Worst Picture.
Speaker 1: Did they go to pick it up? I love when, um,
Speaker 1: when people go to pick up their Razzie. Fun fact
Speaker 1: halle Berry went to pick up her raze is fun.
Speaker 1: When they do that, that shows that they're good sports exactly.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're a comedian, it's like you're
Speaker 1: due diligence. Also, if you're as successful as Will and
Speaker 1: John are, then I think it's like, well, I've also
Speaker 1: made the studios billions of dollars. Yeah, so I can't
Speaker 1: take it. I'm sure they had fun and I'm sure
Speaker 1: they got paid. So I'm like, I have nothing against
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell or John c Riley, but that movie was
Speaker 1: all put on Netflix. Y'all. We have to take another
Speaker 1: quick break. We're gonna hop back into Sherlock Holmes right
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Narratives. An issue. Boy, if
Speaker 1: you were away sitting across from Danny Fernandez and our
Speaker 1: dope guest Dana Schwartz, uh, you know, and now we're
Speaker 1: you know, we're coming to a close. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the future Dana has some suggestions, and you know,
Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes spans so much, like just looking through the
Speaker 1: doctors things that we didn't get to touch on, Like
Speaker 1: there was a puppet Sherlock Holmes series that they did
Speaker 1: in Japan. There's Miss Sherlock, a Japanese series. But one
Speaker 1: that I want to highlight before we ago is Sherlock
Speaker 1: Holmes in the twenty one Century, which was this animated
Speaker 1: show that I used to where it was Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 1: He like got frozen unfrozen in the future and was
Speaker 1: solving future crimes. That's so. But the future like present
Speaker 1: day or future like the future, the future in the
Speaker 1: twenty second century, that century that is so exciting to me.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe I've never watched. Oh yeah, it was ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but in the best way. But yeah, you had some
Speaker 1: short stories to recommend, right, Yeah, I was going to say,
Speaker 1: if you were a fan of the Sherlock series on
Speaker 1: the BBC, I had some old Sherlock old well yes, old,
Speaker 1: some original Sherlock comes stories that are some of my
Speaker 1: favorites that I think I recommend that you would be
Speaker 1: a fan of. There's the Adventure of the Six Napoleons,
Speaker 1: which is a good one if you remember that there
Speaker 1: was an episode of Sherlock where there were a bunch
Speaker 1: of busts of Margaret Thatcher, and that is sort of
Speaker 1: loosely based. Everything is really really loosely based. But I
Speaker 1: think it's a really good strong one is the Venture
Speaker 1: the Six Napoleons. There's one called the Adventure of the
Speaker 1: Empty House that maybe is one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 1: Is very very spooky, and that is the one where
Speaker 1: he has to talk about his a miracle survival coming
Speaker 1: back from the day when when the fans got mad,
Speaker 1: When the fans got mad, um, and I'm learning right now.
Speaker 1: Doyle ranked The Adventure of the Empty House six on
Speaker 1: his list of twelve favorite home stories. What's his favorite? Um,
Speaker 1: let's see, oh the Speckled Band, you guys have good taste,
Speaker 1: good job, Arthur Conan Doyle and eighth grade Dana Um.
Speaker 1: And then a Scandal in Bohemia is the one with
Speaker 1: Irene Adler. So people really like that one, and that's
Speaker 1: a good one to go to. Not the premise of
Speaker 1: that is there is a scandalous photo. It's like a
Speaker 1: revenge porn situation. There's a scandalous photo that's someone needed
Speaker 1: to track also in with a lot. Also a really
Speaker 1: fun one is a Redheaded League, which I want to
Speaker 1: spoil because the resolution is so funny and so like
Speaker 1: it seems so modern. It's someone who was like digging
Speaker 1: into a bank to rob it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like such a thing to like dig through and like
Speaker 1: well just sneaking through. So like that is such a funny,
Speaker 1: old timey resolution. There's like an old timey villain plot
Speaker 1: that it's so charming to me dig under the bottom
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you don't see it coming, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I did want to say. So. My favorite the Hound
Speaker 1: of the Baskervilles. There was several films of it. There
Speaker 1: was a nine nine one. If you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: spook yourself out this Halloween, you can watch it black
Speaker 1: and white. There was the Hound of the baskerville Is
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine. There was also a nineteen three one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm pretty sure I've seen an
Speaker 1: animated one. There's like two different animated ones that you
Speaker 1: can watch on YouTube, um that are really creepy just
Speaker 1: because it's creepy old animation. UM. So that's called Sherlock
Speaker 1: Holmes in the Basketball Curse. It's three. It's an Australian
Speaker 1: animated television film by Graham. Really kind of creepy looking,
Speaker 1: but I think that's the one that I saw when
Speaker 1: I was little. Maybe that sounds of Scooby Doo. I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, that's Garville Curse, yes, I think, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we have the film, so apparently the film's
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm excited. I love I do like detective movies.
Speaker 1: It's so pure. It's like I also really liked um.
Speaker 1: Not to not to change the subject from comms, but
Speaker 1: Hercule Pero, the Agatha Christie UM. And there was that
Speaker 1: Kinneth Branda Murder on the Express, which I thought it
Speaker 1: was very ambitious to even make a new Murder on
Speaker 1: the Orient Express when the original is show beloved and
Speaker 1: like perfect. Um. But I heard that they're making a
Speaker 1: second one of that too, and I'm excited. I like,
Speaker 1: let people indulge in Victorian uh crime solving dramas. My
Speaker 1: detective stuff growing up was Nancy Drew. I never got
Speaker 1: into Nancy Drew. I did, yeah, my mom kind of
Speaker 1: passed that down to me, although I did have the computer.
Speaker 1: Oh I loved it. It was very scary. It was
Speaker 1: like a haunted hotel. Were you into Harriet the Spy? Um?
Speaker 1: I was more into Encyclopedia Brown and Cam Jansen. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was definitely a Nancy drew Scooby Doo um loved
Speaker 1: though still love those on Boomerang, The Hardy Boys. Harriet
Speaker 1: the Spy I definitely did. I was super into spy
Speaker 1: and detective stuff. It's really satisfying when you're a kid
Speaker 1: because the plot structures are really like the rules of
Speaker 1: the plot are really clearly defined, like case clues, red Herring,
Speaker 1: case solved. Like I think that when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: it's really satisfying and even now as an adult, I'm
Speaker 1: always satisfied by that story structure. Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1: influenced me as a writer for sure. Um. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: the Sherlock Holmes three coming dropping in. It will be
Speaker 1: starring Robert Downey Jr. Rachel McAdams, Jude Law. This time
Speaker 1: it's going to be Dexter Fletcher directing. Not Guy Ritchie. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's a He did the Queen Movie, right, He's the
Speaker 1: guy he was the ringer for. He did Eddie the
Speaker 1: Eagle Rocket Man, he did rocket Man. No, but he's
Speaker 1: the one who replaced Brian Singer on He's he got
Speaker 1: a band of brothers. He appeared in Guy Ritchie's lock
Speaker 1: Stock into smoking Barrels. Do you think they're friends? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might seem like also did Doom. So I'm nothing
Speaker 1: for you to think about it? Sure? Why not? Dana?
Speaker 1: Where can everyone catch you on Twitter with Danish Wartz
Speaker 1: with three zs and listen to Noble Blood which is
Speaker 1: a podcast wherever you get your podcasts, so wherever we're
Speaker 1: listening to this, Yes, I'm at Miss Danny Fernandez on
Speaker 1: All the Things. Um, I will be at New York
Speaker 1: Comic Con. What day is this? I still can't announce
Speaker 1: my panels, but I think that I have probably by
Speaker 1: now when this drops on Twitter. I will definitely announce
Speaker 1: them next week when we're officially allowed to. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to be at New York Comic Con, I
Speaker 1: would love to see you. I have really don't like
Speaker 1: super cool panels. Cannot wait to share them. And um,
Speaker 1: thank you to every one that's been buying merch. Definitely
Speaker 1: tag as tag if you and I so that we
Speaker 1: see it, um and we will retweet it. We will
Speaker 1: share it that uh t public dot com. Slash Ner
Speaker 1: deficent to pick up all your merch your and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's your boy. If he if D's on Twitch,
Speaker 1: if you wade away on all the social platforms, definitely, yeah,
Speaker 1: come come go see Danny at New York Comic Con.
Speaker 1: I'll be at twitch Con. There's some things, some panels,
Speaker 1: they're there on the site, you know what. And you
Speaker 1: didn't follow the social for any show updates and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, And as we always say, stay nerdy, elementary
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