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Speaker 5: We know because it is pasted and plastered everywhere. They

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Speaker 5: Cardinals and Broncos a spirited joint practice. All right, I'm

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Speaker 5: it was about the football until you get a little chippy,

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Speaker 5: analyst Sam Ato. Come on down. He is fresh off

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Speaker 6: I'm smiling because you were talking about some of the chippiness.

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Speaker 6: And of course coaches will have meetings with the players

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Speaker 6: and it's a good thing. Yeah, And you know what,

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Speaker 6: Right, It's just the crowd that's frustrating because as a player,

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Speaker 6: We got a sack. The play is over. There was

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Speaker 6: If you can't process quick enough, you'll be a step

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Speaker 9: You know I'm from Texas. Man, it's pretty hot out

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Speaker 5: The elevation in your referenced. I want to get back

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Speaker 8: I love it, man. I think I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 5: How do you like the start to twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 9: I think this is the fastest we've started in the

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Speaker 9: Jonathan Gannon era. For like everybody's Chris. We got the

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Speaker 9: the defense looks good all around, and myself, I thought

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Speaker 9: I said he was gonna be last year. You know

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Speaker 9: man Zaven Collins gets better every year. Joshua, his name

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Speaker 8: Man. So we have a rounded D line group as

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Speaker 5: So big pick on the big red defense. If you

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Speaker 5: does that do to elevate this defense? What does it

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Speaker 9: Opens up a lot man makes things a lot easier

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Speaker 9: they're not ready for it, really not.

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Speaker 5: You know what, Buddha Baker I just talked to him

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Speaker 9: I mean, a guy like Buddha, man, he deserves to

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Speaker 9: So if you do your one eleven and being the

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Speaker 9: So if you do your one eleven, it's a working

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Speaker 9: If one cog is out of motion, then everything's messed up.

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Speaker 9: But if everybody's all in one, then man, look we

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Speaker 9: lighten people up. Brouh Ain't nobody can mess with us LJ.

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Speaker 5: Collie or our guest in the Big Red Rage. Where

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Speaker 5: are you at your best in this scheme, in this defense?

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Speaker 5: Where do you think you're the best fit in terms

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Speaker 5: But yeah, let's go through some of your teammates. Some

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Speaker 9: I've played with a few Bama guys and they're just smart,

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Speaker 9: And he got a guy who like that, who's selfless,

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Speaker 8: Things like that.

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Speaker 9: Man so not put hisself, He put the team before itself.

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Speaker 9: And like, man, he's just a great guy, man, great leader.

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Speaker 9: I love having a room, great energy.

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Speaker 8: He the type of guy you want to go out

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Speaker 9: We've had some injuries in the past, so they had

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Speaker 9: And plus, you got a room full of selfless guys

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Speaker 5: LJ. Collier is our guest so my poly pickskin breakout

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Speaker 9: Strong, athletic, physical, The only person that getting his way

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Speaker 5: drills and I mean you've got that long arm stab,

437
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Speaker 5: it just seems like uns I mean, does the D

438
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Speaker 5: lineman have inherently have an advantage in those old line

439
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Speaker 5: D line drills when we're watching those, do we have

440
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Speaker 5: to grade those a little differently because you guys have

441
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Speaker 5: been dominant quite a bit.

442
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Speaker 9: I mean, truth be told, even if you ask an

443
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Speaker 9: old lineman one of the ones, it is just it's

444
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,600
Speaker 9: pretty much a D line drill. Those guys are just

445
00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,360
Speaker 9: trying to get in the way, but it's mainly based

446
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Speaker 9: for us. She just needs you one of two good moves, man,

447
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Speaker 9: and just work it till the sun comes up.

448
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Speaker 5: What are you trying to get better at this year?

449
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Speaker 8: Finishing plays?

450
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Speaker 9: Man, Just really finishing when you get to the quarterback,

451
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Speaker 9: making the play, making the tackle, to the company, being

452
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Speaker 9: in the right fits things like that. Man, Just how

453
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Speaker 9: can I be the best version of myself to help

454
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Speaker 9: this team? I feel like I didn't fulfill all that

455
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Speaker 9: last year. We should have went to the playoffs, and

456
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Speaker 9: it's still sticking with me, Like we came so far,

457
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Speaker 9: fought through injuries, things like that.

458
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Speaker 8: We were a team that people counted out day after day.

459
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Speaker 9: Nobody believed in us hell and we knew when we

460
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Speaker 9: lost a couple guys in the room, people are going

461
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Speaker 9: to be down on the d line anyways. People still are.

462
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Speaker 9: They don't think we have a crew that can go.

463
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Speaker 9: And I feel like last year a lot of guys

464
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Speaker 9: who weren't supposed to be out there did we supposed

465
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Speaker 9: to do? We held great teams to little to no

466
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Speaker 9: rushing yards or right at one hundred, and I f

467
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Speaker 9: like it's just about pushing ourselves this year, man, showing

468
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Speaker 9: that we can be the anchor of this team and

469
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Speaker 9: that defense. We have a good defensive line that can

470
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Speaker 9: take you very far.

471
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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the defensive numbers of second

472
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Speaker 5: half of last year. Cardinals defense was right up there

473
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Speaker 5: and a lot of those metrics. Now you bolstered the

474
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Speaker 5: defensive front, so you can get more of a rotation going.

475
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Speaker 5: I mean, what's realistic in terms of a rotation on

476
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Speaker 5: game day? How many defensive linemen, how many edge guys

477
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Speaker 5: and what does that do? I mean an offensive lineman.

478
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Speaker 5: I've heard these guys say they can't stand especially the tackles, right,

479
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Speaker 5: getting different edge guys every other snap. They'd like to

480
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Speaker 5: just lock in on one. That's gonna be really hard

481
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Speaker 5: when you guys are that deep this year, right.

482
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Speaker 9: It's gonna be probably six inside and I don't know

483
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Speaker 9: how many carry outside because some guys play special teams too.

484
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Speaker 9: But man, we're gonna be fresh. Just know that guys

485
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Speaker 9: are gonna be coming in, rotating in and out. There

486
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Speaker 9: should be no drop off on the play either.

487
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Speaker 5: So what do you think about joint practice overall? Did

488
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Speaker 5: you like to work the D guide against the first

489
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Speaker 5: team for the Broncos.

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Speaker 8: I fly like we did good work today, Like we

491
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Speaker 8: got after him. I fight.

492
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Speaker 9: Those guys weren't really ready to practice. They were just

493
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Speaker 9: trying to get through it. They were hoping we were

494
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Speaker 9: gonna do the same. But now we're not coached that

495
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Speaker 9: way and that's not really how we carry ourselves. We're

496
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Speaker 9: gonna be actur. We came out here at the workday.

497
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Speaker 9: We're gonna handle business.

498
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Speaker 5: Did he get hippy at all? There was a there

499
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Speaker 5: was an incident on special teams Tip Ryman and DJ

500
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Speaker 5: Dallas right, and then there was on the offensive side

501
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Speaker 5: there was a James Conner started barking at someone. I

502
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Speaker 5: didn't see every snap on the defensive side. What was

503
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Speaker 5: the temperature over there?

504
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Speaker 8: Man?

505
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Speaker 9: Look, I don't know what those guys on the offense

506
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Speaker 9: I had going on. But Tips the type of guy.

507
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Speaker 9: He's gonna practice hard, he's gonna get his fits and

508
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Speaker 9: anything like that. Man, you don't come out there with

509
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Speaker 9: your pass down, He's gonna finish you. And that's exactly

510
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Speaker 9: what happened. He's not gonna be a guy to talk

511
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Speaker 9: trash to you. He's gonna finish you. Get up, run

512
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Speaker 9: back to the huddle. I like Tips game. I love

513
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Speaker 9: a man like man. He's jg was they had dirt dog. Man,

514
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Speaker 9: He's gonna do the guy does all the dirty work.

515
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Speaker 9: Catch him pass when you need him too. Man, he's

516
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Speaker 9: gonna handle his job.

517
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Speaker 5: Is there another young guy you think is gonna have

518
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Speaker 5: a breakout year on this team, whether it's a Trey Benson,

519
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Speaker 5: a Marvin Harrison junior, maybe even Rabbit. You know, is

520
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Speaker 5: there another sort of young guy that you think, Man,

521
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Speaker 5: you know what he's been to have a really big year.

522
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Speaker 9: I think Will Johnson's gonna have a great year if

523
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Speaker 9: you ask me, I feel like he's gonna be He's

524
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Speaker 9: gonna make people pay for making him wait till day

525
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Speaker 9: two and the kids just so calm, and he's a

526
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Speaker 9: big dude.

527
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Speaker 8: Man. You go against guys like Marvin Harris for years,

528
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Speaker 8: all those guys.

529
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Speaker 9: In the big team that they win against, Man, he's

530
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Speaker 9: looked just calm, cool, collected like man, that's scary.

531
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Speaker 5: I mean, he has this skill set in the athleticism

532
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Speaker 5: of some of the best corners in the game, including

533
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Speaker 5: Patrick Sartan, the second who's out there for the Broncos,

534
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Speaker 5: the Ranian NFL Defensive Player of the Year. If you

535
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Speaker 5: get that Calbery player and Will Johnson. What does that

536
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Speaker 5: do for a defense overall?

537
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Speaker 9: Scary because he already had some pretty good set of corners. Man,

538
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 9: we got a great secondary. Add him to that, man

539
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Speaker 9: will make them one of the best in the league.

540
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Speaker 5: And then that safety room. I like to look when

541
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Speaker 5: the three safeties rabbit with Buddha and JT. And I mean,

542
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Speaker 5: you know, as a Q. Shippley was saying on our broadcast,

543
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Speaker 5: cooking with Gas, I mean, that's that's really unique. I

544
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Speaker 5: know Jalen Thompson told us that team started copying some

545
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Speaker 5: of the Cardinals' schemes the second half of last year,

546
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Speaker 5: some of the innovative disguises and coverages. That's a heck

547
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Speaker 5: of a compliment, isn't it, LJ.

548
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's very a great compliment you.

549
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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't really have to say much about

550
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Speaker 9: JT or Buddha because their play speaks for itself. I

551
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 9: feel like they're one of the best hands in the league,

552
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Speaker 9: top three for sure. Those guys work great together, man,

553
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 9: and like just their resume show for it, and plus

554
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Speaker 9: the rest of the guys, the guy out there with him.

555
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Speaker 9: And then moving back to like little linebacker has been

556
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Speaker 9: great for us. He can rush, he can do everything. Man.

557
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Speaker 8: The dude's a headhunter. Man, he's the type of guy

558
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 8: you want shooting gaps for you. Him and a king both.

559
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Speaker 5: In fact, that was my last question. I talked to

560
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Speaker 5: Mac Wilson Senior, and I said, Okay, how clean are

561
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Speaker 5: you going to be this year? As good as that

562
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: defensive line room is as the defensive front is. Right,

563
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Speaker 5: you know how a quarterback always buys gifts for the

564
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Speaker 5: offensive lineman. You know, Mac Wilson Senior might have to

565
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Speaker 5: buy you guys a little something around the holidays, you know,

566
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Speaker 5: if he's kept clean as a middle linebacker, so he

567
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Speaker 5: could just be seeking destroying, goes sideline to sideline, right, Hey.

568
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Speaker 8: Man, we do our job, man, keep him clean? Man, Hey,

569
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Speaker 8: at least for a great year.

570
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Speaker 5: What else would you like to achieve before your regular season?

571
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Speaker 9: Ready? Or are you already there? I feel like I'm

572
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Speaker 9: pretty much there, man. You know you've done it for

573
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 9: long enough time. Man, It's just about getting in shape

574
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Speaker 9: and all the blocks and stuff like that. Man, It's

575
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Speaker 9: just really just about I feel like I'm already in

576
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Speaker 9: not mid season for him, but I feel like I've

577
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Speaker 9: started off a lot faster than I having years before,

578
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Speaker 9: just for my knowledge and preparations. Stufel like, I'm ready

579
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Speaker 9: to go as far as everything needs to be.

580
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Speaker 5: You and Dante have worked really well together and and

581
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Speaker 5: in the preseason game. You know is that you guys,

582
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Speaker 5: can you have chemistry as defensive lineman?

583
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Speaker 8: Oh for sure. He's the guys you got out there

584
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Speaker 8: with him and Dante's a headhunter. Man.

585
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Speaker 9: He's a great energy guy and I feed off him

586
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Speaker 9: all they all the time. Man, I've known him since

587
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Speaker 9: he got here, and he's a great player.

588
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Speaker 5: I'm so glad you gave him a shout out.

589
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 5: I think he's been to have a great year. LJ.

591
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Speaker 5: We always appreciate it. Thank you very much.

592
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Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys for having me man, Thank you so much.

593
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Speaker 5: There you go. We continue the Big Red Rage presented

594
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Speaker 5: by Santan Ford and Gilbert we Are sand tan Ford

595
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Speaker 5: shotgun snapped at Kyler sets.

596
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Speaker 7: Throws deep mittle cowd Marvin Errison Junior reels in a

597
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Speaker 7: sliding grab.

598
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Speaker 5: Well done, avoiding a big hit. But there's that chemistry

599
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Speaker 5: and connection. K One and Marvin Errison Junior give it

600
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Speaker 5: to Connor.

601
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Speaker 7: Now he goes Nord breaking a tackle, stokes it across

602
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Speaker 7: the twenty down to the sixteen yard line, gets up,

603
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Speaker 7: talk some trash to the KC defense.

604
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Speaker 5: How about it moved the chains first down James Connor.

605
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Speaker 10: James Connor like a rolling ball of butcher knine, rolls

606
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Speaker 10: through the left side of the line, our sideline ham strode.

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Speaker 5: He hits treymn bride. Beautiful chemistry once again, picking up

608
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Speaker 5: where they left off in the regular season, all the

609
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Speaker 5: way out to the thirty nine yard line.

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Speaker 11: Great protection, perfect throw by Kyler Murray. Heck of a

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Speaker 11: play by the all world tight end Trey McBride.

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Speaker 5: How about it a Q Shipley there, Ron Wolfley here

613
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Speaker 5: on the Big Red Rage presented by San tan Ford

614
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Speaker 5: and Gilbert and in true wolf form, rolling ball of

615
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Speaker 5: butcher knives. He did well, ball Well, you got to

616
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Speaker 5: tell me your fist pumping on that one. Come on out.

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Speaker 1: That is well done by aq Man. Yes, a little

618
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Speaker 1: descriptive right there. There's nothing wrong with painting that picture.

619
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Speaker 1: We all know what that looks like. You could feel

620
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Speaker 1: that in the car wherever you were driving around.

621
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Speaker 5: And you know what, I will say that two of you,

622
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Speaker 5: the one thing you have in common, there's no doubt

623
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Speaker 5: you can feel football when you guys are talking football.

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Speaker 8: So what.

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Speaker 5: He did, absolute pleasure to work twenty years with you

626
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Speaker 5: now a Q Shipley So and it's always great to

627
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Speaker 5: have all j.

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Speaker 1: Collier in right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of our all time favorites. The

630
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Speaker 5: man from Monday, Texas who went to Monday High School.

631
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Speaker 5: That's m U N d A Y by the way

632
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Speaker 5: in the heart of Texas. The Moguls, by the way

633
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Speaker 5: is the name their nickname of their high school football team.

634
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Speaker 5: But wolf players, no players. Yeah, and it's hard not

635
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Speaker 5: to notice that he named several players, did he not?

636
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Speaker 5: Dante Stills, Yes, d Rob Will Johnson and then tip

637
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Speaker 5: Ryman called him a dirt dog at the end. So,

638
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Speaker 5: I mean it was interesting who he cited as really

639
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Speaker 5: standing out so far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paulli and you know, once again, we need more dogs.

641
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Speaker 1: You've got to get more dogs inside that locker room.

642
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Speaker 1: And the fact that tip Ryman is having the kind

643
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Speaker 1: of camp he is, I'm so encouraged by that for

644
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Speaker 1: a number of different reasons, especially as it pertains to

645
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Speaker 1: the offense Pauli, but also d Rob. This guy, we

646
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Speaker 1: all knew how talented he was last year. Once we

647
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Speaker 1: were around him, once we got to see a little

648
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Speaker 1: bit of him. This guy is perfect in terms of

649
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Speaker 1: a three technique in the National Football League and being

650
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Speaker 1: really really good. The only thing that he had to

651
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Speaker 1: do was go out and prove that he could do

652
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Speaker 1: it in right now, I'm very encouraged based on what

653
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Speaker 1: we're seeing from d Robin, what you've said about this

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Speaker 1: joint practice that happened today, PAULI. In regard to how

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Speaker 1: well he played.

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Speaker 5: No doubt and a Sam Achro cited he excelled from

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Speaker 5: the three technique and outside at the five technique and

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Speaker 5: those O line D line drills against the first team

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Speaker 5: Denver Broncos offensive line. Then LJ. Collier, by the way,

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Speaker 5: also cited Will Johnson when I gave him free reign

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Speaker 5: to pick anyone but Tip Ryman. I mean, you talk

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Speaker 5: about guys who can elevate this offense. Obviously Marvin Yerson

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Speaker 5: Junior getting better chemistry and connection with Kyler Murray. We

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Speaker 5: hurt some of that in the preseason game. Tip Ryman

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Speaker 5: would be another step forward. In fact, here's Kyler and

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Speaker 5: just how he feels right now within the offense.

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Speaker 12: I would say it's the best that I felt within

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Speaker 12: the offense, you know, three years in now and then

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Speaker 12: the guys that we have around skill position, O line,

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Speaker 12: the continuity between the line, everybody's I think everybody's getting

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Speaker 12: a lot more comfortable with each other. You have Will,

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Speaker 12: you have Beach, you know, guys that have played a

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Speaker 12: lot of football, backing up dues, swing guys.

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Speaker 2: And then the playmakers that we have. I think the

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Speaker 2: sky's a limit.

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Speaker 5: Well what stands out to you on that side of

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Speaker 5: the ball and what do you think is the next

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Speaker 5: natural evolution of this Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauli, I've said this and I've said it all

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Speaker 1: off season, Yet at the same time, I've got to

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Speaker 1: continue to come back to this. It is twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: and what the Arizona Cardinals could do in run down

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Speaker 1: situation out of twelve personnel. I won't go into detail again,

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Speaker 1: but I will say this right here, Paully, that vertical

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Speaker 1: runs out of twelve personnel, vertical runs where you attack

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage in a very north south kind

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Speaker 1: of way. I think we're going to see more and

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Speaker 1: more in more vertical runs, whether it's James Connor doing it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, as we all know, he can or it's

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Speaker 1: Trey Benson. But vertical runs paully and then vertical throws

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Speaker 1: down the field as well. Chunk throws have got to happen,

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Speaker 1: And from what I understand, a couple of chunk throws

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Speaker 1: actually happened for Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray later

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Speaker 1: in practice. That to me, vertical runs, vertical throws, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a vertical climb in the NFC West.

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Speaker 5: No doubt. It was the late stages. They went eleven

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Speaker 5: on eleven again the ones against the ones and Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray and two straight passes down the field, completed balls

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Speaker 5: to Marvin Errison Junior, first to the right, then to

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Speaker 5: the left. Then two plays after that, they took a

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Speaker 5: shot for the end zone and Marv did have a

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Speaker 5: step on the guy and the ball was just a

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Speaker 5: little beyond his reach. So look, Marvin Ierson Junior, he

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Speaker 5: is winning these matchups. And if you combine that with

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride, who looks phenomenal by the way out on

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Speaker 5: that field, I mean, he literally has been unstoppable just

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Speaker 5: having his way doesn't matter, the opponent, doesn't matter the situation.

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Speaker 5: So if you get the two headed receiver option with

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Speaker 5: the two headed running backs. Even James Conners talked about

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Speaker 5: co rb ones and then the continuity the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's remember Jonah Williams got his first O

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Speaker 5: line D line reps today in that joint practice, and

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Speaker 5: he's going against Jonathan Cooper, their elite edge rusher for Denver.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the old line, here's the older froh hole.

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Speaker 5: Just on the value of continuity up front and the oh.

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Speaker 13: Most of the playbook, everybody has pretty down pat So

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Speaker 13: it's like you o in and when we know, And

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Speaker 13: that's nice to feel like everybody knows what they need

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Speaker 13: to do. And it's nice to feel that. And it's

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Speaker 13: also good because that kind of sets the presidents for

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Speaker 13: anybody else coming up. You know, you have to know

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Speaker 13: your stuff. You're going to stick out like a sore thumb,

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Speaker 13: and it's like, that's not acceptable. So we have a

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Speaker 13: lot of really really smart guys across the board, I

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Speaker 13: mean our receivers, our tight ends, our backs, you know,

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Speaker 13: all the old linemen. I feel like we're in a

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Speaker 13: really good place mentally.

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Speaker 5: It was good to see Evan Brown. He's stimied Zach

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Speaker 5: Allen on a couple of Repso it was good to

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Speaker 5: see Isaiah Adams going against the other two starting interior,

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Speaker 5: Dan Lineman, DJ Jones, John Franklin Myers. You know, it

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Speaker 5: was a big question mark for me Wolf coming into camp. Okay,

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Speaker 5: the interior or the old line man. I'm feeling a

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Speaker 5: lot better too, three weeks in than I was back

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Speaker 5: in July.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Boy, that is great news, Paul, because I know this

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Speaker 1: is probably the most physical practice they've had so far,

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Speaker 1: going against the Denver Broncos. You know how this is

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Speaker 1: the way I feel about these joint practices. These are awesome,

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Speaker 1: awesome things, and I think at some point in time

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Speaker 1: it's going to replace preseason games. But that's neither here

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Speaker 1: nor there. Going back to the twelve personnel. When you

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Speaker 1: have tip Ryman developing the way that he is, this

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Speaker 1: is significant, Polly. This is significant because the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are built. They're founded on being able to run the

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Speaker 1: ball and run it in your face, and that means

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Speaker 1: you better have a stud tight end that can come

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Speaker 1: off the ball, and tip Ryman appears to be that

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Speaker 1: guy developing from year one to year two. You go

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Speaker 1: back and look at the tape of tip Ryman in

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Speaker 1: year one, Polly, he needed to get better. He was

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Speaker 1: not as consistent as you would like him to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, he's a rookie. He's finding his way, he's

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Speaker 1: laying the foundation for actually getting better in year two.

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Speaker 1: Have we seen that, Paul, with a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: getting better in year two?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, look at the entire draft class.

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Speaker 1: You could say, jump right, so you know what, tip

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Speaker 1: Ryman getting that much better at being the stud tight end. Now,

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators have all sorts of problems when the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals go twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends in

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Speaker 1: rundown situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for those fans who go and watch the All

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Speaker 5: twenty two or even on Saturday night, you're watching the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals telecast right the preseason game against Ever, keep an

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Speaker 5: eye in eighty seven. He's not just executing blocks. He

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Speaker 5: is finishing blocks with a nasty attitude wolf in practice

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Speaker 5: and he got flagged up in the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but not only that. Did you see the one

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Speaker 1: time he killed I forget the guy's name, forgive me

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Speaker 1: on that, but number forty eight for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: he knocked him to the ground, ultimately hit him three

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Speaker 1: times he destroyed Every time Tip Ryman was on the field,

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Speaker 1: he was destroying Chiefs. I gotta tell you, Paul, this

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Speaker 1: guy who knows where this is gonna end.

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Speaker 5: And I can say this because I was down on

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Speaker 5: the Broncos sideline watching his number was getting called out

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Speaker 5: a lot by the Broncos defense, as in, hey, eighty seven,

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Speaker 5: you better you're you're getting real close to crossing the line.

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Speaker 5: Eighty seven. And it's sort of like what DJ Dallas

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Speaker 5: is the special teams. I mean, the two of them

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Speaker 5: are just like the agitator and the instigator. And sure enough,

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Speaker 5: the two of them combined on a kickoff return and

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Speaker 5: then things got a little feisty. They started rooting into

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Speaker 5: two in both sides, and those two were at the

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Speaker 5: do we want to see? We're making our list, We're

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Speaker 5: checking it twice when we come back. It is the

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Speaker 5: big red rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We

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Speaker 5: are Santan for the James first down, James Connor.

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Speaker 10: James Connor like a rolling ball of butcher knife, rolls

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Speaker 10: through see bodies hitting the floor, him bouncing off people.

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Speaker 5: Max Belt comes up and delivers a bloat. What a

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Speaker 5: play by Max Melton. Big time hit for a tackle

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Speaker 5: for lost. Darren Hall hicks it off xp.

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Speaker 11: Xavier Thomas blows up the left tackle, blows up the

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Speaker 11: running back, which forces the quarterback to made away.

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Speaker 5: Rows it up and you get the huge interception for

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals, picked off right in the front of the

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Speaker 5: end zone and it's Keaton Crawford this time. What an

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Speaker 5: interception by Keaton Crawford. Unbelievable play by the seventh rounder.

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Speaker 5: I love my seventh rounders because I was one of

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Speaker 5: them to see the Desert Viking.

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Speaker 10: Also at the end of the play with a nice pancake.

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Speaker 5: Physicality is starting to step up. Let's go bar sidel

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Speaker 5: like man Strode, he hits treymon bride.

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Speaker 11: Great protection, perfect throw by Kyler Murray. Heck of a

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Speaker 11: play by the all world tight end Trey McBride. Now

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Speaker 11: the Cardinals are cooking with gas.

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Speaker 1: How about that like it?

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Speaker 5: What are you thinking? There? He was out of his

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Speaker 5: chair like you. A few times. He wasn't quite chair

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Speaker 5: dancing like you. You know we want to do, especially

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Speaker 5: the mariachi band in La but you know he was

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Speaker 5: out of the chair and he was boom on the

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Speaker 5: on the edge of his skis there a few times.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Paul a very excited because, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: Aq Shipley, right in the heart of that line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: that's where the center plays, and that means you're right

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Speaker 1: in the heart of the blood sport. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that he gets passionate about it as well, man, I

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Speaker 1: love that he's on his way.

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Speaker 8: Baby.

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Speaker 5: I did joke with him, by the way, full disclosure

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Speaker 5: on the air. I said, you know, Wolf said, you

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Speaker 5: never want to be at the bottom of the pile.

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Speaker 5: And you made a living for twelve years being at

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Speaker 5: the bottom of the pile. So that is that's one

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Speaker 5: difference between the two of you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Sow Gravity, Paul Gravity.

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Speaker 5: A Q Shipley right there his debut maiden voyage for

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Speaker 5: ship if you will, as a Cardinal's new radio color analyst,

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Speaker 5: replacing the legend Ron Wolfley. All right, So here we

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Speaker 5: go preseason game number two. Wol If you're making your list,

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Speaker 5: you're checking it twice. I mean, if you had your wishes,

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Speaker 5: what would you want to see on Saturday night?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, for me, I want to see Isaiah Adams

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Speaker 1: get some reps.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I don't know if that's gonna happen based

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Speaker 1: on some of the information that we're receiving, whether the

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Speaker 1: ones are going to be run out there or not.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's important for a young guy like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams making his way that he gets some reps.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's four, maybe five, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be. I'd love to see that. I am watching

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Speaker 1: Owen Papo, you know, a keem. Davis Gaither and Owen

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Speaker 1: Papo I think are in a pretty good battle right

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Speaker 1: there for playing the weak side inside linebacker. You got

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Speaker 1: Mac Wilson Senior, Who's who's the mic linebacker? Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: got the green dot as well? But to me, I

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Speaker 1: really want to see Owen Papo make that next step.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if he could possibly challenge Davis

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Speaker 1: Gaither as a starter on the week side inside.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a great observation on his TV show

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Speaker 5: this week. I asked Jonathan Gate Jonathan Gannon about just

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Speaker 5: how tight that is, and he said, that is the

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Speaker 5: tightest competition on the team. He said, you know that

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Speaker 5: inside linebacker to be next to Mac Wilson senior. So

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Speaker 5: we'll see about that. You mentioned whether starters will play

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 5: Darren Irman retweeted a report from one of the Broncos

871
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Speaker 5: beat writers and they said Sean Payton told the Denver

872
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Speaker 5: media that Broncos and Cardinals starters largely won't play quote

873
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Speaker 5: unquote on Saturday. Going to be a handful of starting

874
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Speaker 5: guys that get a few snaps. We'll see about that, PAULI.

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Speaker 1: Can I just jump in here and say, man, I

876
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Speaker 1: was really surprised he made that announcement. Do you know

877
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: what I mean that it came from Sean Payton.

878
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, the two head coaches always confer,

879
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 5: They always sort of, you know, talk to each other.

880
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: I know JG talked to Andy Reid going into preseason

881
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: game number one, sure, and JG was gonna assess largely

882
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Speaker 5: on the value of what they did today. And for example,

883
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Speaker 5: Lear's Trey mc bride on the first team. Oh, going

884
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Speaker 5: against the Denver defense, and that was a good test.

885
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we knew that this is a good defense.

886
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: You know, they have all the guys, all the pieces,

887
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Speaker 2: and we had a good test coming into this game.

888
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Speaker 2: So it was really, you know, special for us to

889
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Speaker 2: get this opportunity to go against one of these good

890
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: defenses and really see how we stack up against, you know,

891
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: one of the better defenses in the league. And I

892
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Speaker 2: thought we did a good job. We played well, and yeah,

893
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: I mean they're tough, They're gonna make plays, and you know,

894
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Speaker 2: we just got to keep going and make plays as well.

895
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Denver defense a year ago number one in sacks

897
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Speaker 5: with sixty three, number three in points allowed, and you know,

898
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Speaker 5: Vance Joseph obviously a defensive coordinator. They had the NFL

899
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Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year and Patrick Surtan the second.

900
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Speaker 5: Those were some epic matchups today going against Marvin Harrison Junior,

901
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: no doubt about that. In fact, let's just keep rolling.

902
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Speaker 5: Here's Kaleis Campbell and he was a popular guy. Trey

903
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: McBride obviously Colorado native, Denver native Kalais Campbell. He's meeting

904
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Speaker 5: the media. So on the other side of the ball,

905
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Speaker 5: Kalayis was asked about how the de performed in joint practice.

906
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Speaker 14: So that was a really good day. I feel like

907
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Speaker 14: Irish up and Iron. There was a lot of back

908
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Speaker 14: and forth, you know. I mean it's a playoff team

909
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 14: team that you know is tough. You know, they're very resilient,

910
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 14: and I thought we went back and forth. You know,

911
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 14: in the run game, I think we were pretty dominant,

912
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Speaker 14: but you know, bo Nicks looking get out there and

913
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Speaker 14: made this one really good balls, but we put a

914
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Speaker 14: pressure on them two got three at a loss hacks

915
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Speaker 14: that would have probably again some of the big throws

916
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Speaker 14: that had.

917
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Speaker 5: I mean it was there was a.

918
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Speaker 1: Lot of back and forth, a lot of good wall

919
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Speaker 1: we play. Yeah. One of the great things about it, too, Paul,

920
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Speaker 1: is just the fact that the Broncos have such an incredible,

921
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Speaker 1: i mean an elite offensive line. I think that is

922
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Speaker 1: good work for this defense.

923
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: It is frustrating for d line and you heard LJ.

924
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 5: Coller earlier talk about it. I mean there are plays

925
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: where you definitely got to the quarterback, but the play

926
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Speaker 5: continues and so then all of a sudden they throw

927
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Speaker 5: a chunk throw down down the field. Because the dbs

928
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Speaker 5: are covering for five, six, seven seconds, and so it

929
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Speaker 5: looks like a win for the offense when really it

930
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Speaker 5: was it was a TfL for the defense. So it

931
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Speaker 5: can be really deceiving sometimes in the joint practices as

932
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Speaker 5: who exactly won the rep which side of the ball.

933
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Speaker 5: By the way, Kalais was asked wolf if this is

934
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Speaker 5: going to be his last year, and he said, yeah,

935
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Speaker 5: so I don't imagine me playing another year, and then

936
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Speaker 5: he stopped and later added, well, that's what I thought

937
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Speaker 5: this time last year.

938
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Speaker 1: So yeah, bully, I mean he said that last year.

939
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, it's gonna be a tough Paulie.

940
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Speaker 1: What about Jordan Birch did he flash at all? Did

941
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Speaker 1: you see Jordan Birch flash in the joint practice.

942
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Speaker 5: I can't say I did. Sam Acha was over on

943
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Speaker 5: that side watching some of those. I will say that

944
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Speaker 5: Sam did tell us on the TV side that both

945
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Speaker 5: Jordan Birch and Zave and Collins were playing in different spots.

946
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Speaker 5: So the manner in which they used Zaban Collins a

947
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Speaker 5: year ago, meaning he could be in the edge, he

948
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Speaker 5: could be playing the five, he could be playing the three.

949
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Speaker 5: They're using Jordan Birch in a very similar way. They

950
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Speaker 5: have a very similar body type and measurables, do they not.

951
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Speaker 5: They're almost the same exact size and weight. They can

952
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Speaker 5: both really move and really run. And so now it

953
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Speaker 5: becomes a question, and I'll ask this to you, Wolf,

954
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: if you have all these different guys, including Darius Robinson

955
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 5: who we saw play the three technique and then outside

956
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: of the five today, and you have all the LJ.

957
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Speaker 5: Collier might be over the nose, he might be at

958
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: the five. If you're moving all these guys around, what

959
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: sort of advantage you think that might be for Nick

960
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: Rowss and the Cardinals defense.

961
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be huge, Paul, I really do.

962
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: Once again, so much of the time personnel groups offenses

963
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Speaker 1: well bright down a defense's personnel groups and their tendencies

964
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Speaker 1: out of that personnel group. Can you imagine doing that

965
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals, who honestly of the front seven,

966
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: just taking the front seven alone, you might see, I

967
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: want to be you know, reasonable here, maybe twelve different

968
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: guys in that box and depending you know, on how

969
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: many guys. Of course Nick Rolis is going to want

970
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: to run out there, but it's going to be really,

971
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: really hard for an offense to zero in on what

972
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are doing skimat defensively because of their

973
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: personnel groups and how many different guys they can run

974
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: out there, and what their tendencies might be with each one.

975
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Speaker 5: Look, you are loaded. The D and D line stands

976
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: for depth. Right now, that's how loaded you are. Now,

977
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 5: O line, here's the other area you know you mentioned

978
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Speaker 5: inside linebacker. I'll throw second team offensive line beyond Kelvin Beacham.

979
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of question marks right now. Now, I

980
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 5: will say I saw Josh fire seventy eight, right, undrafted rookie.

981
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 5: I thought Hayden Connor had good practice in the D line.

982
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: I thought here good, so I was encouraging. Jeremiah Bayer

983
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 5: is another undrafted guy who Jonathan Ganna has mentioned more

984
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: than once. Those are three rookies, two undrafted guys who

985
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: might be threatening from the outside end to cracking this

986
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: final fifty three. Christian Jones is dealing with an injury,

987
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 5: you know how some of the other veterans like Royce Newman,

988
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: Jay Kerham, I mean, I think there's an opportunity for

989
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: a young guy for O line depth to make this

990
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: team PAULI, how.

991
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Speaker 1: About eleven personnel? How much did you see the Arizona

992
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals go in eleven personnel, one back, one tight end,

993
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: three wides. How often did they use that today? Not

994
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: a ton from what I saw, So you would say

995
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: more twelve than eleven, Yes, definitely, definitely I saw a

996
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: lot more at twelve. We did see a little bit

997
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: of the two back.

998
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: Now that's my intriguing you know, if you have two

999
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Speaker 5: co rb ones Wolf, Yeah, and we talked about this,

1000
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 5: and I think maybe you differ from me, but Trey

1001
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: Benson and James Connor on the field at the same time,

1002
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Speaker 5: and then with James Connor's ability to catch the football

1003
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Speaker 5: if oh, I don't know, he motions into the slot.

1004
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: James Connor, you know, we've seen him run some really

1005
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 5: good routes and make some really good catches. And Trey Benson,

1006
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: you know, bullsh they aren't him. I am curious once

1007
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: we get the regular season, how many more two back

1008
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Speaker 5: sets we see?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, I mean that's one of the things you

1010
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: want to do if you are an offensive coordinator. You

1011
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: want to go ahead and try to get different comm

1012
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: than of people on the field. Once again, just like

1013
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I was talking about defensively, having all of these personnel groups,

1014
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Speaker 1: you want to be able to have the same kind

1015
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Speaker 1: even if you're twelve personnel. It's a lot different when

1016
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Speaker 1: you have a different group of tight ends out on

1017
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Speaker 1: the field than what you normally do with Trey McBride

1018
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Speaker 1: and Tip Riman. So you want to change it up constantly,

1019
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive side of the ball, because then

1020
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: it becomes much more difficult for offenses to zero in

1021
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Speaker 1: on what you're doing and when you do it.

1022
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Speaker 5: I will say, two other guys who we know really

1023
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: like to compete, and I thought showed well today Zay

1024
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Speaker 5: Jones made some catches and Greg Dortch. There was a

1025
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Speaker 5: play where the Cardinals beat Patrick Sartan the second and

1026
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Speaker 5: Greg Dortch was on the receiving end of a big

1027
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Speaker 5: throw what probably would have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a camp competition right there, Paul.

1029
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Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt. I think wide receiver two is

1030
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Speaker 5: still to be determined. I know Michael Wilson might be

1031
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Speaker 5: the clubhouse leader, but there's a lot to be decided

1032
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Speaker 5: and we'll see who exactly plays on Saturday night. Hey special,

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