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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined as

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Speaker 1: always by a room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up? Boys? Hey Dan? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Week four? Here we are, We're ready Sunday night. Nice week,

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Speaker 1: Nice Sunday of action. Um what of your what's your

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Speaker 1: takeaway so far of Sunday's games? I'm just excited for Mark.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it takes a while. Mark like watched

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Speaker 1: last week's Browns win with total stoicism. You wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: known he was a fan at all this game. He

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Speaker 1: really wouldn't let any optimism shine through until that final touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And now my vision of the Browns on Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: Football this Thursday, NFL Network. They win that game three

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Speaker 1: and two, and they're sole play, sole possession of first place.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: ate the enthusiasm, but anyone that's lived through the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns experience for a couple of decades is naturally there's

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Speaker 1: some caution there. All right, we're gonna get into that,

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Speaker 1: but let's why don't we do what we've been doing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through all the games Sunday um as.

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Speaker 1: Every week Gregor signs us all to different games, so

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Speaker 1: each of us will talk about the games that we

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Speaker 1: watched closely, and then the rest of us will chime

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Speaker 1: in with, you know, substantial comments or maybe just kind

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Speaker 1: of fill our comments. We don't know what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give you from an episode to episode basis, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see how that plays out. But let's start with what

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Speaker 1: I think we all agreed on was the the best game,

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Speaker 1: or maybe the most important game of the day. The

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks down twenty three in Houston, come back and

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Speaker 1: knock off the Houston Texans, and overtime and a game

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Speaker 1: that you know changed in an instant on the Richard

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Speaker 1: Greg you watch that game, What did you take out

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Speaker 1: of that? Well, I I'm looking at my notes here

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Speaker 1: and you know, pretty far down in the page, and

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Speaker 1: in this game, I wrote beat down of epic proportions

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Speaker 1: most impressive performance by any team this year, and that

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Speaker 1: was the Houston Texans. About two thirds of the way

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Speaker 1: through the third quarter, the Seahawks had no offense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Houston was just dominating the game, and I just didn't

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Speaker 1: see it turning around because the Seahawks had no passing game.

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Speaker 1: And then for a variety of reasons that we can

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Speaker 1: get into, uh, Seattle just pulled off an incredible comeback

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Speaker 1: and it was to me, the probably the most fascinating

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Speaker 1: when Sherman also had that when he had to pick

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Speaker 1: to it in Unison and it was like, whoa what

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Speaker 1: just happened here? This game that the Texans were in

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Speaker 1: complete complete control of, all of a sudden got turned

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Speaker 1: to me, anyway, Matt Job, your back is now against

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Speaker 1: the wall the world. The walls are crumbling down. You

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Speaker 1: need to now fix this after you put your team

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Speaker 1: quarter in overtime and they eventually get beat. In fairness,

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Speaker 1: he played better than Russell Wilson for the whole day,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of things that happened. The

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Speaker 1: game turned on Bentate's fumble, which set up a field

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Speaker 1: and and I think that hurt the Texans. The Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, we we touched on it at the opening

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Speaker 1: good now, Sessler, don't you, Sisler. I think the story

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's worst game in a long time. He got

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Speaker 1: had his best games against Cleveland. They know how to

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Speaker 1: And two are they can they win this division? Well?

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Speaker 1: Is it that crazy? There? Here's why it looks that good? Nick?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we cannot um emphasize this enough. The Browns

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Speaker 1: thought it was from the angle that Glennan came in

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Speaker 1: He looked better than Freeman had at any point this season.

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Speaker 1: They didn't ask him to do too much, but he

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Speaker 1: did what they asked. You know, he hadn't made any

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Speaker 1: major mistakes. What I liked about Glennon in general was that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he saw a lot of pressure and he

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Speaker 1: got rid of the ball. It didn't just hang back

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Speaker 1: there and allow them to throw him for six seven

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Speaker 1: year losses. But then the fourth quarter hits and you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of we have to write up our write

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Speaker 1: ups for these games and get our notes together. I

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Speaker 1: I know what's gonna happen here. You know, this has

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Speaker 1: a certain trajectory to this game. Then everything changed. Arizona

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Speaker 1: scores thirteen unanswered points. You know, Carson Palmer looked like

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Speaker 1: a statue back there for three quarters, that offensive lines

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Speaker 1: of mess. But Fitzgerald ultimately I think beat out Darrell

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Speaker 1: Reeves in this one on one, Attle caught a big touchdown,

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Speaker 1: they scored another field goal to go ahead, and listen

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Speaker 1: to two interceptions by glenn in the last four or

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Speaker 1: five minutes of this game looked very Josh Freeman like.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I like our robot terms that we're

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Speaker 1: using to describe people. Greg said that levy On Bell

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Speaker 1: was competent. Uh Mark says that Mike Lennon is technically clean.

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Speaker 1: Technically Martin the third back in NFL history with twenty

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Speaker 1: six carries in less than forty yards. You know probably

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Speaker 1: what's going on there? You know, Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: we've seen him struggle to have one of those games

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Speaker 1: that he had a couple of times last year. He

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Speaker 1: just broke away and compiled the ardig. He didn't do

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Speaker 1: it today, But that actually that's what had me impressed

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Speaker 1: with glenn and Early because they really tried to help

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Speaker 1: him out by going heavy on the ground game. It

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Speaker 1: didn't work, you know, the Cardinals did a nice job

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Speaker 1: stopping him, and Glennon kind of saw through that. He

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Speaker 1: just kind of kept pushing through it and doing his

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Speaker 1: best to move the team. It wasn't a great game

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Speaker 1: for him, but I think they did You know it.

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Speaker 1: I can see why they made the switch if they

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Speaker 1: watched these two guys in practice two and two with

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Speaker 1: three games on the road so far, Bruce Arians serves

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Speaker 1: a little credit here. I just don't see that. I

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Speaker 1: don't see that last scene, and they need to do

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Speaker 1: something with that offense though it's there's their skill players

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Speaker 1: are not really able to do what they need to

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Speaker 1: do because of this line one list that to my point,

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Speaker 1: earlier on the Bengals Tampa Bay Buccaneers ohe and four

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Speaker 1: for the tenth time since the merger, which ties the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals ten times they've been abing for. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty rough. Now it's time always one of the best

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Speaker 1: times of the week where we head over to Chicago

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Speaker 1: or Chicago Correspondent with a t L. Kevin Patrick, Kevin Patra,

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Speaker 1: gonna take some time off from his I'm in the

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Speaker 1: friend Zone dinner with Jennifer Hudson. Kevin Patra, How are you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Let's go boys, big day to day? How is everything

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Speaker 1: out in Chicago? Beautiful? Nice Chris night, You know how

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Speaker 1: it is? I don't actually don't have much experience there. No, um,

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Speaker 1: all right, Kevin Patra Here we go. Are you ready,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little football. You're Detroit Lions have another

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Speaker 1: win under their belt. Wow, what's going on here? Reggie

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Speaker 1: Bush continues to be a difference maker. A hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy three yards of total offense. You take down the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears two. What's going on? Well, I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: finally on board with the Reggie Bush train. I'm fully

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Speaker 1: on board now. He was just absolutely phenomenal. He makes

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Speaker 1: such a difference in that offense. I mean, they were

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Speaker 1: splitting out wide because they don't have receivers. His running

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Speaker 1: was ridiculous. The best thing we've seen since Barry Standards

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. I mean, he's he's a difference maker in

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Speaker 1: the offense, There's no question about that. Through four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Better than our toast pinner. Just a little bit, not

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Speaker 1: too much, just saying, got to give him some credit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this a team, uh, that you're feeling

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Speaker 1: can win this division potentially? And looking at what the

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Speaker 1: Bears did defensively? What what's going on there? Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean you've got to give some credit to the Lions

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Speaker 1: offensive line, which hasn't been talked about at all this

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Speaker 1: year so far, I mean, they gave Stafford sometimes he

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Speaker 1: made some questionable throws still in my opinion, but he's progressed.

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Speaker 1: But the blockings for for Bush was just they were

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Speaker 1: just gaping holes. The Bears front definitely miss Mountain today.

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Speaker 1: The Bears defenses is suspect if they're not causing turnovers. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the good thing for the Lions, and the

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Speaker 1: thing I said coming into the season about them is

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Speaker 1: they didn't win in the division last year. And you

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Speaker 1: can't win your division if you don't win a visions there,

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Speaker 1: two and no both games at home. They have to

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Speaker 1: be able to win on the road in the division.

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Speaker 1: We know Green Base probably a loss. They haven't won

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Speaker 1: there twenty some years. Um, but you gotta win in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: You gotta win in Chicago, Patra. From what I've heard

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Speaker 1: and seen on Twitter, this was a step back for

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Speaker 1: j Cutler. Yeah, and you know he almost to me,

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Speaker 1: he looked kind of after the first the first drive,

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Speaker 1: he looked great. It was I was thinking, again, like

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be the same J. Color was the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks he was sharp, he was hitting,

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Speaker 1: his receive, was getting the ball to his hands. And

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Speaker 1: then after that after his first interception with Louis Donmads

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Speaker 1: came and made a great place, snatched it away from

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Speaker 1: Maushan Jeffrey, and then he just kind of looked like

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Speaker 1: he was waiting to get hit, like he was worried

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Speaker 1: about the Lion's defensive line, and Sue was in his

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Speaker 1: face all day, kind of worked over Kyle Long there

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Speaker 1: a couple of times. He finally got a couple of sacks,

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Speaker 1: first two sacks of the season. Strip bumble. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: just kind of color just looked to me like he

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Speaker 1: was waiting to get hit a couple of times, holding

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Speaker 1: the ball a little along, kind of escaping the pocket

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Speaker 1: when he had a little time to step up, just

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Speaker 1: like Knda Lasher where he didn't trust his offensive line

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Speaker 1: the way he did the first three weeks. So you

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Speaker 1: guys have Nate Burlison on the sideline because of the

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Speaker 1: pizza incident, broken arm what deep dish? Deep dish pizza overrated,

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Speaker 1: by the way, a little bit overrated. It depends where

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Speaker 1: it comes from, I guess different conversations. So what do

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Speaker 1: they do with the number two receivers? Bush basically their

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Speaker 1: number two receiver at this point, you know he was

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Speaker 1: he only had four catches in the in the past game,

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Speaker 1: they did split him out wide with and had joint

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Speaker 1: Bill on the back in the backfield a lot quite

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Speaker 1: a bit today. I think they'll use them in that

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Speaker 1: that sense. Chris Durham actually led the Lions with receiving

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Speaker 1: in receiving yards today because the Bears, like they usually do,

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Speaker 1: kind of bracketed Calvin Johnson didn't really let him go off,

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Speaker 1: only into forty four yards, did have a touchdown catch um.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just gonna be your Pedigrew had

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Speaker 1: seven catches today. They need him to step up. Blind

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Speaker 1: fans hate him because he can't catch the ball. Too

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Speaker 1: many drops and he fumbles a lot. But he was

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Speaker 1: the key today. It was Calvin Bush out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield and then his third read was tight end Pedigrew

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Speaker 1: today and that's what they're gonna need, um and not offense.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to spread the ball around, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Kevin. Hey, you don't think deep dish pizza

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Speaker 1: is the best pizza? Do you? I do not. I

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Speaker 1: do not, Thank you? Thank you? Who do you think so? Was?

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Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with you. I think it's delicious.

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Speaker 1: If anyone where you get I don't see what all

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Speaker 1: the why would you make fun of it? It's good? Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a New York thing. Is someone from New York.

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Speaker 1: You go to New York for the first time, hopefully

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, you will have real pizza, and

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Speaker 1: then there will be no different, no way to ever

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Speaker 1: feel unclear on the top. Now, I don't get I

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Speaker 1: don't get on board with this argument that you have

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Speaker 1: to like one and hate the other. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why you have to pick one over the other.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, because one's better than the other. You have

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Speaker 1: to make decisions, all right, Kevin Patra, thank you again.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you next week. Always good information later,

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Speaker 1: all right. I can't believe that's a topic that we're

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Speaker 1: not all unanimous on. Let's move on to the late games,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with a dreadful one in Nashville. My

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Speaker 1: New York Jets went down in flames. Chris Westling the

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Speaker 1: improbable hero pick there. He got the Titans. They whooped

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Speaker 1: up on the Jets. But the biggest story here is

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Speaker 1: Jake Locker, who is in the midst of probably the

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Speaker 1: best game of his career, suffered a potentially serious right

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Speaker 1: hip injury. Uh, we don't know at this time how

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Speaker 1: serious it is, but it did not look good and

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Speaker 1: that really cast a big shadow over everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: But the Titans, who started out three and one, I

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Speaker 1: think that's the biggest story of the day. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's too bad that injuries work that way, but this

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Speaker 1: is one of the most surprising teams. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: from what I've heard, it's two of his best games

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Speaker 1: of his career back to back. And if he's gone,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much okay, you know, wow, we have Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick that that's that if Locker was healthy. Would it

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Speaker 1: be outrageous to say the Titans are the best team

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Speaker 1: in that division. Nobody wants to them, but they but

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Speaker 1: they keep out physically in teams every single week. You know,

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Speaker 1: you think about the Cults going to San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: and and beating them up and and winning today in Jacksonville. Big,

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Speaker 1: but it's a to your point, the Texans maybe the

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Speaker 1: third most impressive team in that division so far. The

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Speaker 1: Titans are second team in NFL history to go for

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Speaker 1: the first four games of the season without a turnover.

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Speaker 1: So like the opposite of the Steelers. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as as I wrote in the round up that we

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Speaker 1: have we have a what are we called what we Learned? Greg? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what we Learned Takeaways from the game. That's that's on

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Speaker 1: our site every Monday morning. You can check it out,

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Speaker 1: literally dozens and dozens of takeaways from each of the games. Um,

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Speaker 1: we believe it's one of the finest pieces of content

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Speaker 1: we put out. But yeah, the one thing I wrote

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Speaker 1: was any goodwill that Geno Smith had built up over

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Speaker 1: the Jets first three weeks was undone. Uh today because

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Speaker 1: he was he was rattled. He had four turnovers. This

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Speaker 1: is this is pretty grim. Four turnovers that led to

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Speaker 1: twenty eight Titans points. Uh. He just was completely out

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Speaker 1: of it and the Jets are in a bad spot

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Speaker 1: now because he is on pace for forty four turnovers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that makes Sanchez is twenty six last year look amazing.

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Speaker 1: And they don't really have anywhere else to go. Sanchez

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Speaker 1: isn't an option. He's on short term. I r you

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Speaker 1: have Matt Sims, but I can't imagine they're gonna go

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Speaker 1: with an undrafted rookie that wasn't even good in college.

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Speaker 1: So it's basically stick it out with anyone else, though,

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Speaker 1: it seems crazy to me. If and I I implore

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Speaker 1: you to watch the game tape for this game, because

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Speaker 1: it could become a situation where they almost have to

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Speaker 1: do something. If if this becomes a regular thing where

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Speaker 1: he's turning the ball over two or three times a

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Speaker 1: game and deadly spots and not giving the defense any chance.

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Speaker 1: I'm just this game is bad enough to really make

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Speaker 1: you think that the Jets are in bad shape. Potentially.

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Speaker 1: I love the pendulum swings. No, I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: Jets fans were telling me this week they couldn't have

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Speaker 1: next Johnny Unitis under center in Gino Smith. He's gonna

640
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: have five terrible games this year. He's already had two.

641
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: It's just that's how it's gonna be. You just hope

642
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: he kind of learns from him and it gets better

643
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: and he like you like you two are both saying

644
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: this week how much he's shown you. He's made plays,

645
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: and even in this game where he was dreadful, he

646
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: made a few throws. But ultimately, when it comes down

647
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: to it is he can have too many more games

648
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: like this because it's it takes the air out of

649
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: the whole team, and it's only gonna be a matter

650
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: of time. Uh, you know, we're only one fourth through

651
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the season. He has had to just disaster games. They

652
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: they made their bed by going with him to start

653
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: the season, but this was kind of like the dark side.

654
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: This is the worst case scenario for the Jets. So

655
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from you is Gino Smith is ultimately

656
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: going to cost Rex Ryan his job. There's a very

657
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: good chance he will because if they do decide, and

658
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: it's probably the smart decision just to ride it out

659
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: with him because you got to see what you have.

660
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: But he is gonna make a lot of mistakes this

661
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: year and he is not a well rounded player at

662
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: all at this point, and it's gonna cost him a

663
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: lot of games real quick. You've got a GM who

664
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: put everything into drafting Gino Smith and rebuilt their backfield

665
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: with Chris Ivory and Mike Goodson. That's three critical skill

666
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: positions that essentially could be a disaster at the end

667
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: of the season. Yes, well that that is that is

668
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: something to keep in mind as well. But yeah, ultimately,

669
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: to me, right now, the big question is what you

670
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: have in, you know, and they if they whipped on this,

671
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be dreadful this season. So you know the Jets,

672
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: it's it's fandom coming out here, the greatest thing ever. Again,

673
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: I have never been all in on Gino And if

674
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast, you know, but he's He's

675
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: made enough throws to get you a little excited. But

676
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: this was the bad Gino that you worry about. All right,

677
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: let's move on, uh Denver. You know the Broncos they are, um,

678
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: undoubtedly the best offense in the league. They have the

679
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: best offense in the league, probably the best team at

680
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: this point. Win over the Eagles Manning now is sixteen

681
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: touchdown passes that's the most in the first month of

682
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the season ever. Um West, you watched that game. I mean,

683
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: who's gonna stop this team? Right now? That was my

684
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: takeaway that I think we've been talking about this since

685
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: the preseason, that they could chase the Patriots scoring record.

686
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking the question is are they going to

687
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: chase the Patriots sixteen and no regular season record? Ah?

688
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: So you're in now and the possibility of sixteen and

689
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: fifteen straight regular season games. They've beaten every opponent by

690
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: at least a touchdown. At this point, we just want

691
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: to know if anybody can stay in the game with him.

692
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the defenses they played that

693
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: at least has to be a factor. Ravens in Week

694
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: one good defense, but the next three or three of

695
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in football on paper. Giants have been terrible,

696
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders have been okay, not great, and the Eagles

697
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: are terrible. Wait a minute, hold on, I mean they

698
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: haven't just played even with it. They have wiped these

699
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: teams off the grid. And it's not just their offense.

700
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: People don't respect their defense, and their defense is playing

701
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: really well. And then they get Von Miller and Champ

702
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Bailey back, and what who is the team that can

703
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: give him a game? Maybe it's Dallas next week. I

704
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: could see Dallas being a game. I think when I've

705
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: seen a team like this is probably gonna go fifteen

706
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: and one or fourteen and two. It's weird teams that

707
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you're not predicting that are gonna someone's gonna knock them

708
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: off that we don't see number When at Broncos team

709
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: with l way back in the day went into Kansas City,

710
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Cincinnati. It was the weirdest team, a terrible team,

711
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: and just caught him off guard one day. I mean,

712
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen any team play close to the Broncos

713
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: at this point. All right, let's well, why don't we

714
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: just quickly we'll take let's take a look at their

715
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: schedule to the bike because I want to see where

716
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: they can get um before that is this computer which

717
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: they play the Cowboys, the Jaguars. I think the Redskins

718
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: are in there. Dial up situations. Yeah, Cowboys, Jaguars, Redskins,

719
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: and they're getting too I mean if they get two

720
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: return touchdowns a week. Al Right, here it is we

721
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: got at Cowboys, home to Jaguars, which is, oh my god,

722
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: home to Jaguars at Colts and home to Redskins. And

723
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: then week nine by you very easily can be looking

724
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: at it ain't no team there. The Colts is interesting.

725
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: Colts and Cowboys are both both interesting. At least it'll

726
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: be fun to watch the other ones. They might be

727
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: in the sixties with their points. Peyton Manning going back

728
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: to Indie for the cool Sea that will be interesting. Alright. So,

729
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: while uh, the Eagles could not get a win the

730
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: their division rivals the Redskins did take care of business

731
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: in Oaklin. Greg, you watched that game the Redskins. By

732
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: the way, if you need a defense in fantasy, pick

733
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: up those Redskins because, uh, they had seven sacks in

734
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: a defensive score. Redskins defense on the men, Greg, Welcome

735
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: to the two thousand thirteen season Redskins defense. You know.

736
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: R G three was a little bit better again this week,

737
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: but he kind of played the same I think he

738
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: has that he did last week. The difference was Matt

739
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Flynn was the starting quarterback for the Raiders and they

740
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball at all. Seven of their points

741
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: came off a punt return. They had a drive early

742
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: in the game and that was it. And after the game,

743
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen basically just fill aid Flynn, which I was

744
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: really surprised to hear. He said, Flynn isn't seeing thea

745
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing the field very well. He didn't play very well,

746
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: and now we have to move on. And that was

747
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: that was his assessment of Matt Flynn. I think it

748
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: shows you how much Harrell priors on this coaching staff.

749
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Over early. I thought it was being a little harsh

750
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: because the offensive line was terrible in this game. They

751
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: lost Darren McFadden and Marcel Reese in the first half,

752
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: so it's not like he had a lot of help.

753
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: But he's right. I mean, Flynn just kind of stood

754
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: there and you know, waited and and that's it. And

755
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: now we know why Matt Flynn keeps getting beat out.

756
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know, how about that Flynn

757
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: just retires? You know, he's been through a lot. Everything

758
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: seems to go poorly for him in his career. You

759
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: got some money, Let's open up a pub, you know

760
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: called Flynn's. Can even have like a drink special like

761
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: signifying I threw for four eighty yards in a game

762
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: for the pack. You know, you take advantage of that,

763
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: and you know, you have some fun with that and

764
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: you have a nice life because you know, I don't

765
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: understand why Dennis Allen is destroying Matt Flynn. I mean,

766
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the guy is a limited player and he's coming in

767
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: on short notice. Well what's up with that? I think

768
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: his destiny is to be the Doug Peterson too. That

769
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson to Brett Farvee is what Matt Flynn should

770
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: be to Aaron Rodgers, just go back be his backup,

771
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, shoot some you know, deer or whatever they do,

772
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, and hang out people out doors. Um, alright,

773
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: anybody else have any thoughts on that game? I'm just

774
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: glad it's over. Yeah, as as we all are. All right,

775
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: let's move on to San Diego. It's time to buy

776
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: in on Philip Rivers for m v P talk. It's time.

777
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Uh what a game by Rivers. I watched this one.

778
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: Uh he this is how good Rivers was he His

779
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: completion percentage was thirty five forty two for four yards.

780
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: That's the highest completion percentage for any quarterback in the

781
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. Uh. That through for four hundred

782
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: yards in a single season game. Uh, single game. I

783
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: mean he is that locked in right now. And basically,

784
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers are legit a f They're obviously not in

785
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: the Broccos class, but they are a legit wild card contender.

786
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: With Rivers playing at this level, I thought this game

787
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: was the perfect storm of two teams that were completely

788
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: ready to do something very ugly facing each other. So

789
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: one of these teams had to win, you know, the Cowboys.

790
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: We're talking about this before the podcast, and I know

791
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Greg does not like stats that deal with history, but

792
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: this is recent. Since two thousand four, they have been

793
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: two and one seven times and have lost their fourth

794
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: game of the year every single time. This was such

795
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys game, It really was. I mean, they

796
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way. This is a

797
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: bad job by the Cowboys because I think everyone should

798
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: respect now that Rivers is playing at such a level.

799
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Or the San Diego Charges are a pretty good team.

800
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: But you know what, but you can't pick them again

801
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: the rest of I will not pick them. But this

802
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: shows the difference of, you know, someone who wants to

803
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: win the picks pool and someone who gets emotional. I

804
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: had them as a hero pick last week. They broke

805
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: my heart. Came right back to them because I liked

806
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: the game and bamly got me. But we'll see. If

807
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: they win a couple more games, I will throw out

808
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: my clause very easily. You know, just a man. That's

809
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: a bad, bad job by the Cowboys who had a

810
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: chance to really establish himself as a real NFC team,

811
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: and now we think they're the same Cowboys that they've

812
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: always been. And and Mark, you said, you think the

813
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna go eight and eight win the division

814
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't see anything telling us that they won't be

815
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: the same old Cowboys team that maybe eight wins get

816
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: you in the playoffs and maybe it doesn't, and that's

817
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: where they'll probably end up. So Antonio Gates is making me, Uh,

818
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: it's making me understand just how hard the NFL is

819
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: to predict. He hasn't played. I mean, he's played pretty

820
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: poorly and looked slower, and now he's on pace for

821
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: his best season of all time after two or three

822
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: years of kind of looking like he was on the decline.

823
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: We never know anything about the NFL. I remember in

824
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Week one watching the Monday night game against the Texans

825
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: and sending out a tweet. There was something along because

826
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't moving well, and it was like, you know,

827
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: I think one of the compentators said that Gates is

828
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: still one of the best tight ends in football, and

829
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: it was like, that is not true, and it hasn't

830
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: been for a couple of years. Uh. Listen, he's putting

831
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: up numbers that he's like one of the best height

832
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: ends and football. Again, I mean, how much does that

833
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: correlate with the quarterback play? Obviously it is a big

834
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: difference with rivers place every week that he's moving better

835
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: this year, and it's health. I mean, he's had so

836
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: many injuries and just watching him move, you know, we

837
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: we and I think that I've probably been one of

838
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: the guilty parties. So much credit to Mark Trustman for

839
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: what he's done with Cutler, But what about Mike McCoy

840
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: Is he not really? Is it? Because San Diego is

841
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: a sleepy, little West Coast California town, not the heart

842
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: of the football scene. Kind of being ignored for what

843
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: has been a very good coaching job. Well, now he's

844
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: done this with what Matt Moore, Tim Tebow, Peyton Well

845
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: you can't really credit him for Peyton Manning, but he

846
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: didn't botch Peyton Manning. This isn't the most talented Chargers

847
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: group around Rivers either. I mean Danny woodheads making plays.

848
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: They don't have Malcolm Floyd. It's not really you know,

849
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Eddie Royal is making plays for them. So I'm pretty

850
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: impressed with McCoy. It's a good point. I would say.

851
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Speaker 1: One thing to watch out for with San Diego dhit.

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00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: They don't not they don't have a great pass rush.

853
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: As we know. Dwight Freeney is really the guts of

854
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: that pass rush and he went down with a leg

855
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: injury today and where it's unclear how serious it is,

856
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Speaker 1: but that is something to keep an eye on. What

857
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: about a very quiet you know what. I would have

858
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: to watch the game again to get a better idea.

859
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: But you didn't hear his name getting called a lot,

860
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Speaker 1: which takes us to the final game Sunday Night, Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, Alan Chris. It looked like another Sunday Night stinker.

862
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: Instead we got some fireworks at the end of the game,

863
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: but ultimately though the New England Patriots a thirty three win. Greg,

864
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Speaker 1: who was sitting next to you know, he felt confident,

865
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: but you could tell Greg, Greg was getting really nervous,

866
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: really fraid. But ultimately the Pats came out of head

867
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Speaker 1: four oh in September, It's not sure at all. I

868
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: was a picture of calm. I've seen this story before

869
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: from Matt Ryan, and this Falcons team was very reminiscent

870
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: of the NFC Championship Game of of Week one and

871
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: keep to Leave. I thought it was fitting that he

872
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: made the past deflection on the final play because he's

873
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: been such a difference maker in that secondary and now

874
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: they they're not a great defense, but they're a good

875
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: defense that makes enough place and West who they call

876
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: him the mail man, and it's because he he knows things,

877
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: he notices things. West, can you tell us a little

878
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: bit about that last play fourth down the Falcons, Uh,

879
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: they needed five yards for a first down. They went

880
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: to the end zone incomplete pass. Well, let's set this

881
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: up with what they did all game. Belichick is known

882
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: for taking away what you do best. He took away

883
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: Julio Jones uh, and then towards the end he saw

884
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: that Gonzalez was beating them. So we saw gunner coverage

885
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: on Gonzalez, which is two guys covering him at the

886
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Collinsworth mentioned during the game that he's

887
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: only ever seen that on Calvin Johnson. We've seen it

888
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: a couple of times with him. So you got gunner

889
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: coverage on Gonzalez, You've got one cornerback on Julio with

890
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: safety help over the top. So Ryan isn't going there,

891
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: He's not going to Gonzalez. And then they put a

892
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: key to leave their best cornerback on Roddy White one

893
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: on one. Who is that Roddy White right now? Either? Right?

894
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: So that's to me. That was brilliant defense from the

895
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: from the Patriots. It gave Ryan a look that he

896
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: he didn't really have a great option. Do you want

897
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: to go to Harry Douglas. Do you want to go

898
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: to quiz Rodgers? Coming out of the backfield, they took

899
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: away with the Falcons do best and it's amazing that

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00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: we were even in that place. I mean, this game

901
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: was thirty uh Falcons. They get a score, they recover

902
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: the outside kick, they score again. I mean the game

903
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: just it's spun out of control for the Pads, but

904
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: to leave has become a star player for them. It

905
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: just shows the close difference in the NFL between say

906
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: a four and no team and a one in three team.

907
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't think this Falcons team is that much different

908
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: than the team that won thirteen games last year, but

909
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: they can't convert in the red zone. They were so

910
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: lucky last year and all these close games, and now

911
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: this year they've kind of been unlucky. As good as

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00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: Ryan played, you know, for some of the game, he

913
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Speaker 1: made some big players. Julio Jones, you know, made great

914
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: contested catches. I think you do have to knock them

915
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: a little bit for those throws in the final sequence. Uh,

916
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: bad throw on first down just completely didn't give the

917
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: receip you a chance. And then on second down pretty

918
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: much the same thing, didn't give Tony Gonzalez a chance.

919
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: That's two pretty bad throws in the key spot of

920
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: the game. To your point on to leave. Even with

921
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Julio Jones catching that bomb late in the game, he

922
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: went over a hundred yards. Patriots a whole opposing number

923
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Speaker 1: one receivers to fifty eight yards per game. Even with

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Speaker 1: that hundred yard game out of Julio, it's not just

925
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: to leave as a Patriots homer, it's to leave. And

926
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Speaker 1: mccordy at safety. McCarty at safety has changed that whole

927
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Speaker 1: defense since the end of last year. He's been a

928
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: big help changing positions. Okay, so that is that is

929
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Speaker 1: the Sunday games. We will be back on Wednesday. We

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Speaker 1: have one more game in week four that is Miami

931
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Speaker 1: go to New Orleans. That's a great game. So we

932
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Speaker 1: will talk about that on Wednesday and anything else that's

933
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: going on. Uh, and tell them is Dan hansa signing

934
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Speaker 1: off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss, Cabridge behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass, and of course Lyle the intern until Wednesday