1 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: The show goes on. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of the official show 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: here on the fish on First podcast channel, bringing you 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: complete Miami Marlins coverage all year round. I'm Eli Susman, 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: the founder of fish on First. Thank you for tuning in, 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Happy holidays and go Caines. Very happy to see my 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: alma mater, the University in Miami, advancing in the college 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: football Playoff. Believe it or not, we do have a 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: lot of baseball to cover on this show. 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I 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: don't think we can render a judgment on this off 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: season until we find out what, if anything, happens with Cabrera, 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: the very talented right hander coming off the best year 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: of his career, and he has been on and off 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: in rumors essentially since Peter Bendix took over as Marlin's 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: president of baseball operations, and this is at a moment 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: where his value is much higher than it had been 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: at any other point in the past. Couple of years, 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: is it high enough for the Marlins to actually pull 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: the trigger to swap him out for in all likelihood 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: multiple other players that could address positions where they have 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: a greater need than the starting rotation, which is an 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: area of strength for them. I want to focus on 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: him now because we now have a good point of 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: reference in terms of what his value would be on 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: the market, seeing as how the Rays and the Orioles 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: made a trade just a couple of days ago Shane 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: Boz going to Baltimore for what is going to be 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: a five player return for Shane Boss Really, so, I think, 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: like a lot of other people, I was taken aback 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: by how much this ret was for Boz. I guess 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: the co headliners in this case catcher Cayden Bodine and 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: outfielder Slater de Brunn, both going from Baltimore to Tampa Bay, 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: and overall five assets in this package also including a 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: right hander Michael Farrett, outfielder Austin Overn, and a competitive 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: balance round a pick in the upcoming draft, which is 60 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: currently slated to be number thirty three overall. So all 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: these players that are still quite a while away from 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: the big leagues, none of whom would be consensus top 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: one hundred MLB prospects. Both in Bodine and brun those 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: are players that are kind of knocking on the door 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: of that honor depending on how their twenty twenty six 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: season goes. And with Boz it's so relevant to Eddie 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: because they're very similar in age. Bozz is about a 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: year younger, and they're both three years away from free agency. 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: So Boz is entering his first year of arbitration eligibility. 70 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: Cabrera is entering his second, but he got there a 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: year early, so both are underteam control through twenty twenty eight. 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Their salaries are going to be very similar for this 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: upcoming season, and both of them have kind of been 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: in that interesting spot for a few years now where 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: they hadn't quite reached their potential. Boz was actually held 76 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: in even higher regard as a prospect than Cabrera ever was, 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: and yet he's coming off a season in particular in 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five where although he was healthy, he wasn't 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: particularly effective. It was an era in the high fours 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: for Boz in Tampa Bay had a big issue with 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: home runs this past season, and although he was durable, 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: just wasn't in the middle of all that success, he 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: was throwing a decent amount of strikes but not getting 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: the results that his team really needed. And he's the 85 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: guy that's missed quite a bit of time drew to 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery. This was the only full year of 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: his career to this point, and the results weren't there, 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: And yet the Orioles are willing to give up even 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: if none of their elite prospects. Still a ton of 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: depth that when you added all together, is a really 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: sizable chunk of assets going back to Tampa Bay. And 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: it got me thinking about how Boz and Cabrera kind 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: of compare to one another. So I made this side 94 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: by side graphic for those of you watching on either 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: YouTube or Twitter that looks at the similarities and differences 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: in most categories. It goes in Eddie's favor. He has 97 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: the advantage in terms of Baseball Reference War seven point 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: two to three point one over the course of his career. 99 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: It's a lot tighter if you look at fangrabs War, 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: which is based on fielder independent pitching. It's almost a 101 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: dead heat between them over the course of their careers 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: to this point. Even though Cabrera has had plenty of 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: durability issues, he hasn't had that long term sidelined situation 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: such as Tommy John So overall, he's been able to 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: make an additional thirty three starts. He's been able to 106 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: pitch about fifty percent more endings over the course of 107 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: his big league career. In terms of ERA, Cabrera about 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: two tenths of a run better, but the gap is 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: wider if you actually adjust for ballpark factors. That gap 110 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: is Cabrera being eight percent better than a league average 111 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: in terms of ERA and Boz being five percent worse 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: than the league average in terms of ERA. Overall, though, 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: it's the differences aren't that big except in terms of 114 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: total volume and then this most recent season, But you 115 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: look under the hood and at their FIP, and Boz 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 2: actually does have a lower career FIP to this point 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: four two eight to Combers four four five. And I 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: think this offseason especially has kind of driven home the 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: fact that teams are prioritizing that over earned run average, 120 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: especially in smaller samples. We've seen in free agency, guys 121 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: like Devin Williams coming off a bad year, Ryan Helsley 122 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: coming off a very uneven year, and still get paid 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: premium for their position. Dylan sees being the best example 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: by far, getting over two hundred million dollars from the 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays, even though he was kind of the 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: epitome of average from a run prevention standpoint. This past year, 127 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: this off season has been sort of a reckoning of 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: that and really showing where not just the smart team stand, 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: but where I think the majority of team stands in 130 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: terms of how they value players moving forward. They're going 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: to look at the under the hood stuff first and 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: then maybe make adjustments if you have a history of 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: really overachieving your fielder independent pitching, which Cabrera to an 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: extent actually does, and he did again slightly this past year. 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: This past year, though it was kind. 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Of inn all fronts, it was a big step forward 137 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: for Eddie looking like a pretty prototypical number three starter 138 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: for a competitive team, and in the case of the Marlins, 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: he was their most valuable overall starter this past year 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: because of San Dil contrast struggles because the time is 141 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: due to injury from Yuri Perez and Ryan Weathers. So yeah, 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Eddie this past year did a lot to improve his stock. 143 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it dramatically changes how other teams view him, 144 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: though in terms of the actual way that these guys 145 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: approach hitters, it's also pretty similar. Both of them have 146 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: fastballs that averaged ninety seven miles per hour this past year. 147 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: Cabrera has his most standout secondary pitches being his change 148 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: up in his curveball, and Boz also has a very 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: nice curveball. He has a cutter more so than Eddie's slider, 150 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: but both of them have strong four pitch mixes. Cabrera 151 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: occasionally still throws that sinker as a fifth pitch to 152 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: keep people off balance and to get a little more 153 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: ground balls, and the more than I looked at it, 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: I think the gap between them is minimal, if at all, 155 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: I think there still is a gap, because I do 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: think teams still prioritize the most recent season a lot, 157 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: and for Cabrera that was a significant step forward for him, 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: most especially in terms of just strike throwing. So overall, 159 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: his walk rate for his career is still quite a 160 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: bit higher than Boz's is, and I think this past 161 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: year is more so a dead heat between them in 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: that category. But the fact that he was able to 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: make that improvement, I think he would be that would 164 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: do enough to elevate his value above Boz. But I 165 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: think there's still some question about where Cabrera's ceiling actually is, 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Like how much better is he really going to get 167 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: to than where he is right now? I mean, right now, 168 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: he's an above average major league starting pitcher, and that's 169 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 2: nothing to sneeze at. But I've been somebody in the 170 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: past that has been totally indifferent to the idea of 171 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: potentially moving on from Cabrera because I didn't see that 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: ace upside the way that I think a lot of 173 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: other people did, and I still don't. I still think 174 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: that his upside is a little bit higher than it 175 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: is right now. There's still room to improve. But this 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: past year he checked a lot of boxes in terms 177 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: of working deep into games, but not so deep. He's 178 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: not someone that's ever going to go the distance. I 179 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: don't think, with precious few exceptions. He's still somebody that 180 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: is going to battle off and on efficiency concerns. 181 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: With his pitches. 182 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: But it was I keep saying it was a step 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: forward this past year in a way that if it's 184 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: a team that's hell bent on winning in twenty twenty six, 185 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: that you would think that would boost his down quite 186 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: a bit. But this comes down to the reality that 187 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: the Orioles were interested in Cabrera, that the Orioles were 188 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: having negotiations with the Marlins prior to swinging this deal, 189 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: and they didn't do it. And the simple question of 190 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: why they wouldn't do it, I think is pretty apparent 191 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: that if he was available at the same price that 192 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Boz was, if he was available for the same package, 193 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: then a deal would have been done and they would 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: have gone with the guy that has this very recent 195 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: track record of being a good, performing big league starting pitcher. 196 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: They just they value that higher and all things being equal, 197 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: they would go with Cabrera. But clearly things were not equal, 198 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: and that's why they went. They moved down the priority 199 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: list to somebody like Boz. And we haven't really gotten 200 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: clearly defined terms in terms of what the Marlins are 201 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: looking for for Eddie, but it's been enough that there 202 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: really hasn't been any deal close to being finalized this 203 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: entire offseason, even though Carrera's availability has been well known, 204 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: Even though he was available dating back to the last 205 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: trade deadline, at least then there were a clear idea 206 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: of what sword pieces the Marlins were looking for. 207 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: In return. 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: And so going back to this trade package, it's a 209 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: unique structure to get five real assets in a kind 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: of deal. This is certainly a quantity over quality type 211 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: of deal. You don't see it very often, a five 212 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: for one sort of deal. So I think, naturally, looking 213 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: ahead to this one, you need to assume the structure 214 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: that the Martins are looking for it's gonna be a 215 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: little bit different, where they're going to look for a 216 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: clear er center piece and over a better centerpiece than 217 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: was one that changed hands in the course of this 218 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Shane Bays trade. So but all things considered, maybe Cabrera's 219 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: value i'd estimated five percent higher than Shane bas maybe 220 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: ten percent. But if the Marlins are looking for more 221 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: than that, which is I see by all indications they are, 222 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: that's kind of why we haven't seen any movements at 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: this point, because the Marlins are standing firm on this 224 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: idea of asking for the moon and the stars, when 225 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: maybe the moon in one star it would be enough 226 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: right here in return for Eddie, I would still lean 227 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: towards the likelihood that he does get traded over the 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: course of this offseason. Eventually, the Marlins, I think are 229 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: gonna pull back a little bit, just acknowledging the inconsistencies 230 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: in Comber's history when it comes to throwing strikes and 231 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: staying healthy. Even this past season he had two separate 232 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: iel stints, one for a blister and then one more concerningly, 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: for an elbow sprain. I was really surprised to see 234 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: that he actually returned to the man by the end 235 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: of the season. And although that would I would think 236 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: that would help his value quite a bit rather than 237 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: just ending the season on the IL. It doesn't mean 238 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: that I don't think teams are fully convinced that he 239 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: is full he's going to be over these elbow scares 240 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: moving forward. That maybe for a guy that has made 241 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: this far without undergoing Tommy John that over these next 242 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: few years, that it's a distinct possibility that one pitch 243 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: pushes that ligament too far and he ends up missing 244 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: a year or more of these three ormaining. 245 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Years of club control. 246 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: So I think, ultimately I don't think fans should be 247 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: all that outraged. For example, if they do wind up 248 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: with the Shane Boz package in trading Eddie, if they 249 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: wind up with a deal that doesn't have a clear 250 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: cut top one hundred guy and one that also is 251 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: has players that are a little bit removed from being 252 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: big league ready. 253 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 254 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: As we saw just this past offseason in the Hazeos 255 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Lizardo trade, I think this is almost the exact anniversary 256 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: of that trade. Marlin's got a couple guys that are 257 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: several years away from the big leagues in return. That's 258 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: Peter Bendix's style. He's gonna look for the best value 259 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: he can get, regardless of all other factors. That if 260 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: you just accrue enough surplus value in your organization that 261 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: you're gonna get that's going to give you the resources 262 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: you need to address speci needs. So there's been this 263 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: theory that the Marlins may address first base in the 264 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Caprera trade, looking for whether it's Kobe Mayo in Baltimore 265 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: or Tristan Cassas in Boston, guys that are very obviously 266 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: available and have the power profile that gets you really 267 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: excited from a first baseman, Guys that are even cheaper 268 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: from a salary standpoint and have several years of club control. 269 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: It's possible, but I don't think the Marlins are going 270 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: to be that close minded about it, and I think 271 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: that's the way that this ultimately gets done is the 272 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: fact that they're willing to accept a wide variety of 273 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: potential packages in return, and eventually one of those is 274 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: going to come close enough to the original asking price 275 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: to get it done. But yeah, just to put a 276 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: exclamation point on this, this really has been the theme 277 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: of the off season, where teams are showing that they're 278 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: not going to be beholden by the run prevention results 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: that pitchers have had recently. They're going to look a 280 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: lot deeper than that, and in some cases make moves 281 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: that are counterintuitive to that, even really investing a lot 282 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: in guys that have questionable run prevention histories and just 283 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: bet on the fact that their underlying skills are going 284 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: to take over moving forward and that those results could 285 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: look a lot different moving forward. We'll continue to monitor this, 286 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, I thought of a very interesting 287 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: topic to explore. So whether it's maybe nobody does get 288 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: close enough to the asking price and the Marlins end 289 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: up trading a different starting pitcher, one that doesn't have 290 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: quite as much overall value, but still it could be 291 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: used to address other areas of the organization. Still a 292 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: long way to go with this. I mentioned it on 293 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: the site that I don't think we see movement here 294 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: until there's more free agent signings. From a starting pitching standpoint, 295 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't think we see anything before the turn of 296 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: the calendar into January, a couple of weeks away before 297 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: this might get moving. This is a patients front office. 298 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: They really are they to be intimidated by public pressure 299 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: of any kind. You're going to wait until they get 300 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: the deal that they want right here. And it's an 301 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: awkward situation for Eddie for sure. I mean, all I 302 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: did is perform well this past year, and that gets 303 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: him right in the middle of all these rumors. But 304 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fascinating saga to continue following right here, 305 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: and ultimately we really do at the reserve judgment on 306 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: what the Marlins are doing until we see exactly what 307 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: happens in this particular case. So without further ado, we 308 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: can now get to my interview with Matt Goodrow, the 309 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: president and general manager of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp, talking 310 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: about what goes on running a business, which is ultimately 311 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: what the any minor league team is, this one being 312 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: an exceptionally successful one, just had an ownership change in 313 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: Jacksonville for the first time in many years, and first 314 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: time and over a decade, so we get into the 315 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: ramifications of that. Of course, we reflect on the Jumbo 316 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: Shrimp winning not only the International League Championship with the 317 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Triple A National Championship, and what if anything that does 318 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: from a variety of angles when it comes to running 319 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: that team moving forward. Sit back and enjoy this interview, 320 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: and then come back at the end. We're going to 321 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: go taking a swim around the diamonds and highlighting other 322 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: contents outside of Fish On First that I think Marlin's 323 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: fans would be very interested in. 324 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: So enjoy the interview. 325 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: Stick around for the final segment. Here it is Matt 326 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Goodrow from the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp. It's Eli Sussman here 327 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: with you on the official show. A first time guest 328 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: on the Fish on First podcast with us, and a 329 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: different sort of guest that I hope you guys will 330 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: appreciate his perspective and how it very much goes hand 331 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: in hand with the Marlins fan experience. Newly promoted to 332 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: the president to the position of president and general manager 333 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp, Matt Goodrow thanks a ton 334 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: for making time for this conversation, mister president. 335 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Were happy to do to you, looking forward to chatting 336 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: with you. 337 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 338 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: So, first off, when fans of any professional sports team, 339 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: they hear the title general manager, their first thought is 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: roster construction, player acquisition. That's not really the case when 341 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: it comes to a minor league baseball affiliate. It's the 342 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: parent club itself that is responsible for that sort of thing. 343 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: So to start us off, could you kind of explain 344 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: what you're you've previously been the assistant GM, if you 345 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: could explain what your job responsibilities were and what you 346 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: think they're going to be moving forward. 347 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, previously my job responsibilities fell into a 348 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: few different buckets of helping oversee the stadium operations here 349 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: by Star Ballpark, and overseeing a lot of the capital 350 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: planning and projects that have happened here in the last 351 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: few seasons. 352 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: Over over the last three years or so, we've had about. 353 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: Thirty one point eight million dollars worth of projects accomplished 354 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: at the ballpark and completed, which have been awesome, and 355 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: we continue to work on a few different projects going 356 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: on in the ballpark currently. So the off seasons have 357 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: been busy and and and kept us going. But I've 358 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: had had the opportunity to lead a lot of those 359 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: projects in the past few years, have a very good 360 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 4: working relationship with the Marlins themselves and being a primary 361 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: contact to the team not only throughout the season, but 362 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: in the off season, just kind of making sure things 363 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: are ready to go and in place for the guys 364 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: when they get here in March, going through the whole season. 365 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: And also done a lot in the in the corporate 366 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: sales space, you know, you know, helping helping work to 367 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: fill some of the billboards in the outfield wall and 368 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: theme nights that we have in the ballpark with different 369 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: companies that are looking to showcase their brands here in 370 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 4: Jacksonville with the Jumbo Shrimp. So those are kind of 371 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: the primary responsibilities. I had also helped staff a lot 372 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: of the part time staff members that would work on 373 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: a Jumbo Shrim game. 374 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: So very proud to say a lot of the people that. 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: A fan might interact with when they come watch Jembo 376 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: Shrim baseball here might be somebody that I helped interview 377 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 4: and helped helped into their role. And you know, we 378 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: collaboratively have tried to train and be a friendly face 379 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: to be able to help you while you're getting to 380 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: your seat, or finding where to get a good hot 381 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: dog or or shrimp entree that's here in the ballpark 382 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: before they enjoy the game. 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: So those are a lot of things that I previously did. 384 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 4: But to your point, Eli, I think it's it is 385 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: a bit of a misconception that when you have the 386 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: general manager or assistant general manager title, a lot of 387 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: people think you're doing player development and scouting and constructing 388 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 4: the roster. So a lot of I've spoken with a 389 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: lot of disappointed students that have jumped on a call 390 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: with me and wanted to chat about my career that 391 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: we really talk more about the business of baseball and 392 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: and running running the nuts and bolts of again ticket 393 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: sales and corporates, corporate partnerships and running the event by 394 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 4: you know, securing a staff to be here and running 395 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 4: running concession stands and cleaning up after ourselves after afterwards, 396 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: and making sure that it's all safe in the in 397 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: the process when you know, thousands and thousands of jumbos 398 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: from fans are coming out to the ballpark. 399 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: To enjoy a game. 400 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: So it's it's it's not much to do with building 401 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: the team, but we certainly work with the Marlins hand 402 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: in hand enough to know that we do have a 403 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: part in making sure that there's success on the field 404 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: and that they have all the tools that they need 405 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: to do a great job and develop the players in 406 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: a way that they're that they're looking to do. 407 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: So I'd take it you've been based in Jacksonville even 408 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: over the course of the season itself, that you're always 409 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: there or do you ever get certain occasions where you 410 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: might travel with the team for road trip or is 411 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: it always just. 412 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: I have I haven't historically traveled with the team on 413 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: a trip, and we've we've done a couple We've had 414 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: a couple of opportunities where we've taken like season ticket 415 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: holders on you know, some some of our core fans. 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: We've we've offered the opportunity to go on a road 417 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: trip and watch the team in a different city. 418 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: So those have been the times that I've traveled. 419 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 4: But we have a we have a travel coordinator that 420 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: that handles a lot of the team travel on our 421 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: end here. I think once or twice maybe she's tried 422 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: with the team, but I haven't traveled yet, But that 423 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: might be something that I try to change this year 424 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: and see if I can go on a trip and 425 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: see how everything works, so we can make sure that 426 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: we're doing things to the best of our ability together, 427 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, and I know the team wouldn't be shy 428 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: if there was something that needed to be improved on 429 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: how we could work on a plan to make it 430 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: better too. 431 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: So, but typically haven't been the boots on the ground 432 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: going on a road trip. 433 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: In the pressure release that was went out announcing your promotion, 434 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: they described you as the primary liaison to the Jackonville 435 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: coaching staff. I'm curious what sort of questions concerns do 436 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: they have during the course of the season, What what 437 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: sort of things were you facilitating to make sure that 438 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: things went smoothly on their end. 439 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: I think it's just making sure that things in the 440 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: in the clubhouse and on the field, they are all, 441 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: you know, in good working order, and that there's there's 442 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: a good contact to our to our grounds crew, and 443 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: that the that the road trips have been going smoothly, 444 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: and just general things that they that they may need 445 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: that really come from our side. That you know, we 446 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: were the managers of this facility so well. 447 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: We work. 448 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: We work with a company Legends that they're actually the uh, 449 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: the ones that truly oversee the facility, but we're here 450 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: on a day to day basis, so we're the ones 451 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: mostly responsible for keeping the place in good working order 452 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: and ready to go when when. 453 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: The team gets here. 454 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: So it could be about something that needs to needs 455 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: to be repaired or in the clubhouse, something that's broken, 456 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: to trying to do something different on a road trip 457 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: on the way that we travel, or adjusting adjusting a 458 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: bus time or you know, Fortunately, we got to talk 459 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: about a lot of success this year and how we 460 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: were going to celebrate you know, winning the first half 461 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: championship and traveling to Las Vegas and. 462 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: Things of that nature when we were going to go 463 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: for the Triple A Championship. 464 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 4: So kind of a kind of a variety of questions 465 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: and things can come up that, you know, it's important 466 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: for both you know, the team itself who who are 467 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: the Marlins, but you know, don the Jumbo shrim Jersey 468 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: when they're here to have a have a strong rapport 469 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: with people that you know, do work here full time 470 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: as the Jumbo Shrimp staff to make sure that. 471 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Things are working seamlessly and. 472 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: And don't have any problems when when they're coming to 473 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: and from town and uh and having their games here 474 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 4: on site. 475 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Got it. 476 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: Moving up the chain of commands a little bit to 477 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: the Marlins front office, whether it's Peter Bendix or Gabe Kapler, 478 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Rachel Balkovich, do you have semi regular communication with any 479 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: of them when it comes to them, they're obviously they're 480 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: concerned about every aspect of the player development operation. 481 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 482 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rachel out of out of those three, or is 483 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: the one that's been in most contact with with my 484 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: position previously and what I would expect to kind of 485 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: be the primarily ais on to us. But Peter and 486 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: Gabe have both been here and then we get a 487 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: chance to interact here here and there. But Rachel, between 488 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: those three, has been kind of our our primary contact 489 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: to making sure that we're we're all aligned with the 490 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: vision that she. 491 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 3: Has for for going on down here in Jacksonville. 492 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: She she she was I would say probably three or 493 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 4: four times over the course of the year, if not more. 494 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: Might be selling her short, but she she's she's been 495 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: the one that we've talked to the most. Obviously, if 496 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: the primary contact through through David Carpenter, our manager and 497 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 4: things like that, that's that's that's where it really all starts. 498 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: But but some of the other front office staff do 499 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: do do pop in and let us know when they 500 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: when they want to chat about something or or just 501 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: or here on site and we catch up. 502 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: Your time with the Jumbus has been split almost down 503 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: the middle between the first couple of years when Kim 504 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: Ang was still the general manager and now these past 505 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: couple of years where Peter Bendix is the head of 506 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: baseball operations with Kapler and Rachel involved with it as well, 507 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: and our fans are always constantly looking for signs of 508 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: hope or just signs of actual tangible change in terms 509 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: of the player toment side, because things frankly weren't going 510 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: all that well from that standpoint a couple of years 511 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: prior to. 512 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: This front office overhaul. 513 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: And I think they'd be interested in just hearing from 514 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: kind of your perspective, if from your dealings with the 515 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: Marlins organizations the last couple of years. The relationship has 516 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: been the same throughout the entire period where they've been 517 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: the Triple A affiliate of the Marlins throughout that period, 518 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: is has there been any sort of tangible difference that 519 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: sticks out to you in terms of the way that 520 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: that the affiliation has been these past couple of years that. 521 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: Different. I think, I get. 522 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 4: It would be hard for me to say if there's 523 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: like anything that I could point to specifically that like 524 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: was it was, it was a difference, and like what 525 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 4: what I'm seeing being done the you know, I'm not 526 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: somebody who's in the locker room when they're you know, 527 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: come coming up with a plan or or you know, 528 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: setting defense defensive alignments and in the in the lineup 529 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: or anything like that. 530 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: So I've never been connected to that. 531 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 4: In any way and and never was before, not now. 532 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 4: But you know, we we've certainly, going into last baseball 533 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: season undeniably can see a vast improvement in the product 534 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: on the field. I probably got the chance to know 535 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: to know Karp a little bit better than I knew 536 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: the knew Darren Brown before, but I knew Darren Wall too, 537 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 4: That might also be unfair to say. But there's certainly 538 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: been an energy and enthusiasm around the team that I noticed, 539 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: particularly last year when we were having so much success, 540 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: which was different than I had seen before. 541 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: And so it's you know, I would speculate them. 542 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: You know, the focus has been contagious in a way 543 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: that that led to a lot of success heres, particularly 544 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: in Jacksonville. So I feel confident saying that I think 545 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: Marlins fan should be excited about the future, especially the 546 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: way that our team performed here all along the season, 547 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 4: again not only being the first half champions, but then 548 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: competing very hard in the second half of the season, 549 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: then having a tremendous few games in late September to 550 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 4: go ahead and win the championship. So, I mean, the 551 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: future seems nothing but bright. And I can't speak anything 552 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: but glowingly about the people who I've worked with here 553 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: recently on the staff and have certainly noticed an energy 554 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: and enthusiasm that's been unmatched in the last couple of seasons, 555 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 556 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: Now let's now get to the ballpark renovations that Viisnar 557 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Ballpark has undergone relatively recently. Project next as it was. Yeah, absolutely, 558 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: we're following the process pretty closely these last couple of years. 559 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: If you could just quickly summarize what the different elements 560 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: that were involved with that. 561 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: Sure over the last few years, we started off in 562 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: a few different phases to accomplish a lot of good 563 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: impact to improve in the ballpark. The first one excuse 564 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: me was going into twenty twenty three renovating the clubhouses. 565 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: Much of that, much of the improvements began as stemming 566 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: from needing to improve the ballpark from a PDL standpoint, 567 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: which we're getting it up to the standards that Major 568 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: League Baseball has provided in a new agreement that came in, 569 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: I believe during. 570 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty one season. 571 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: So we were very fortunate that the city of Jacksonville 572 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: partnered so well with us and being able to give 573 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: us funding to upgrade the ballpark to be able to 574 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: meet a lot of these standards. And we started with 575 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: the locker rooms themselves. That was a place that we 576 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: were deficient and wanted to improve, and we were able 577 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: to renovate those two locker rooms over the twenty twenty 578 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: three off season, going into the year after the twenty 579 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: twenty two season, going into the year of twenty twenty three, 580 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: so we were able to change out the lockers on 581 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: both sides, make the visiting side particularly larger, which it 582 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: had been pretty small, hadn't had many updates in the 583 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: first fifteen to twenty years of the ballpark had existed, 584 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: so it was really a full renovation of those areas again, 585 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: changing out the lockers, carpeting, updating the restrooms and bathrooms 586 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: and showers, kitchen spaces, things of that nature. So not 587 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: only on the jumbo shrim side, which we're proud of 588 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: is strong and looks really good, but the visiting side 589 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: to a has turned out to be a really nice 590 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: upgrade there. Going into twenty twenty four, we were able 591 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: to add ribbon boards and a new video board on 592 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: the left field on the left center field wall, So 593 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: we've got ribbon boards now that hang over like that 594 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: section one fourteen to one eleven and one on one 595 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: to one oh four some something that's probably pretty common 596 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: in a major league park and maybe a lot of 597 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: other minor league parks have that too, but really enhances 598 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: kind of the game experience by showcasing the score and 599 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: different statistics that are going on there. 600 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: But the video board. 601 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: Two was I believe about twenty to twenty five percent larger, 602 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: you know, state of the art, crystal clear. 603 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 3: You know, the picture looks great on it now, So 604 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: we were we were super excited. 605 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: And then going into twenty twenty five is really where 606 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: there was a ton of noticeable, impactful difference on the 607 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: ballpark too, I think a general fan that would come in. 608 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: Is where we renovated our new center field plaza, which 609 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: is now the Baptist Health center Field Plaza right down 610 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: kind of at the bottom of the screen there, and 611 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: then the right field right field building is comprised of 612 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: a club space with some seats that oversee the oversee 613 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: the right fielder with about one hundred and ninety seats, 614 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: and again a club space area that has has a 615 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: bar and kitchen and all of that connected to it, 616 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: along with those kind of drink rail seats that they 617 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: are outside of it. So we used to have a 618 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: bleacher section there and this is certainly an upgrade to that. 619 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: And below that are our front offices, so we have 620 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: that that area now which is nificantly larger than what 621 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: it was before for growing our growing team to be 622 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: able to have the space to work, and also a 623 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: new team store. 624 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: As well on the on the ground floor of the 625 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: right field building there. 626 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: Part of the center field plaza before before I skip 627 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: over that, we also added three shrimp boats as specialty seats. 628 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: To the right of that batter's eye there behind that 629 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: Jacksonville postcard is that you can kind of see right 630 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: when you walk into the ballpark, a really cool striking piece. 631 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: But to the right of that, which would hang right 632 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: over the left center field wall, or three shrimp boats 633 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: that we rent out for games that people can sit 634 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: up there and have a very unique experience to watch 635 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: games and enjoy a great view. So it's been pretty 636 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: cool something that we've enjoyed having as a unique piece. 637 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: Feels very Jacksonville, very very team oriented, since their shrimp 638 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: boats themselves. It was a cool, important piece that we 639 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: wanted to add. But finally, another part of the project 640 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: that's been been very well received too has been the 641 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: PNC home Plate Club. Our former offices were off Adams Street. 642 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: They're kind of on this map, you know, probably a 643 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: little bit behind the visitors on deck circles where under 644 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: the stands or where our offices used to be, and 645 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: we were able to renovate that space and turn it 646 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: into a high end, high end fan experience club where 647 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 4: fans that have those tickets there when they when they 648 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: buy a ticket is all inclusive food and beer and wine. 649 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: So it's a it's a pretty cool, unique, speed, unique 650 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: space and leads to the first four rows behind home 651 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: plate that about one hundred and fifty seats in total 652 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: and have an unbelievable view of the game. So those fans, 653 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: the fan in the in the first row of the 654 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: home plate club is actually closer to the catcher than 655 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: the pitcher is obviously a unique thing that you could 656 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: get to say, I know a couple other Paul parks 657 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: have that too, but the view there of the game 658 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: is unbelievable, unmatch anybody that sits in the seat there 659 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: is completely blown away that wants to wants to watch 660 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: the game, that watched the game as their primary focus. 661 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 4: But really having a space that you can two where 662 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: there's a catered meal, again, it is in meaning that 663 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: it's not just like kind of regular ballpark fair our 664 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: food and beverage to team here in Jacksonville goes above 665 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 4: and beyond trying to make creative menus to rotate out 666 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 4: throughout a series. So fans that are in that space 667 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 4: regularly are eating different kinds of foods and different themes 668 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: connected to it. And again a domestic beer and wine 669 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: is covered in that package too, so be able to 670 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: get a drink from the bartender. Obviously, non alcoholic beverages 671 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: included with that as well, so a cool space that 672 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: has multiple TVs with different games going on that they'll 673 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 4: be able to hang out and watch while they're maybe 674 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: waiting for the game to start and then make. 675 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: Their way out. 676 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: But if they want to hang out for an extra 677 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: bite or a drink during the game too, maybe if 678 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 4: it's a little bit hot, or we're getting a little 679 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: bit of a rain shower or something like that, they 680 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 4: might pop back in there and enjoy themselves. So those 681 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 4: have been the primary things that we're part of the 682 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: renovation that we're really cool to be part of, and 683 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: I think everybody has been really excited when they've come 684 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: out to the ballpark and seen them in their completetion, 685 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 4: and myself and our teams are certainly proud of how 686 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 4: they've all turned out, and hopefully everybody. 687 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: Else is too. 688 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: One very niche question I have is that as part 689 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: of the renovations and some of the things that we're 690 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: added beyond the right field wall, I know that like 691 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: the height of the wall in various spots changed and 692 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: that maybe some very minor alterations to the dimensions. Is 693 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: that the sort of thing that you have to run 694 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: by the marlins before moving forward with it, just because 695 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: it slightly changes the way that the ballpark plays and 696 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: therefore the way that. 697 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we not only them, but major League Baseball. 698 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, when we changed the dimensions of the field, 699 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: ELI hit it right on the head. Yes, the Marlins particularly, 700 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: but major League Baseball as well want to know those 701 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: things and make sure that they fit into a certain specification. 702 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: I think it's important to note. 703 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: I think from what I learned in the process that 704 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: there aren't specific like there aren't specific rules in place 705 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: of like the distance of a certain fence or the 706 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 4: height of a certain fence, as you can probably understand 707 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: when you look at the different architecture of different major 708 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: league parks and other minor league parks that you'd see. 709 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 4: But I think generally speaking, there's more of a concept 710 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: of where people are comfortable and they want to make 711 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: sure and major League Baseball, and I would imagine the 712 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: Marlins and anybody just for the playability of the field 713 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 4: want to make sure that nothing really goes wildly outside 714 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 4: of that scope. 715 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yeah, it does. 716 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: And I still appreciate the fact that this ballpark and 717 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: most others are still distinct from one another. That it's 718 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: not it's on a replica of what the Marlins have 719 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: at Lone de Bill Park, for example, people that watch 720 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: Jimbo Shrimp games. Something that was true before that's still 721 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: true is how much space there is at center field. 722 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: So it's lends itself to a lot of triples that 723 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: make games, in my opinion, more entertaining, and it gives 724 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: us better gauge in terms of how much speed certain 725 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: players have both the defender and the actually hit the ball. 726 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's as long as there's ways so still 727 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: have variety and unique aspects. 728 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: Without but that everybody's comfortable with. 729 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: That's I guess it is an interesting balancing act that 730 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: you have to do too. 731 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hopefully I explained that. Well. 732 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 4: It's I think that's a really really cool part about 733 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 4: baseball and baseball stadiums, and I think really a big 734 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 4: reason why you probably hear a lot more of baseball 735 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: fans making pilgrimages to different parks and you know, making 736 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: it making it something, Oh, I want to see a 737 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: bunch of different stadiums because of how unique they are 738 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 4: and how different they all can be compared to maybe 739 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 4: you know. 740 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 3: Arenas that you know have more. 741 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: Or less the same thing going on in the field, 742 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 4: because the basketball court or the ice rank or the 743 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: football field, they're all the same wherever you play. That 744 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 4: I think is a very special part about baseball is 745 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 4: even though generally speaking the field is the same, there 746 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: are unique quirks almost to every park amongst the thirty 747 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 4: in the big leagues, and I'm sure it's the one 748 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: twenty in the minors as well, and makes it makes 749 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 4: it fun and exciting. 750 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: A couple of questions about attendance, That's a topic that 751 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: comes up quite a bit for me covering the Marlins 752 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: major league team, and you don't have to comment on 753 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: this part of it, but people have poked fun in 754 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: recent years about how on certain occasions that Jumbo Shrimp 755 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: may outdraw the Marlins themselves in terms of official announced 756 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: attendance on a particular day during the course of the season. 757 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: That's more so it's. 758 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: Just a testament to how popular the Shrimp are and 759 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: what the job that you guys are doing on all 760 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: fronts to keep it busy there. I'm just curious what 761 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: approximate number for you qualifies as a sellout when it 762 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: comes to attendance wise in this. 763 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 4: Ballpark we're billed at I believe eleven thousand seats eleven 764 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: thousand capacity. I want to be careful with the words 765 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 4: that he is eleven thousand capacity for the ballpark, but 766 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: that's that's quite a bit of general emission space and 767 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: kind of standing room space. That's that's in the ballpark itself. 768 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 4: I believe we've in certain circumstances, considered us to sell 769 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 4: out at about about eight thousand, nine thousand. I want 770 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: to say, I'm you know that that's what I believe. 771 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 4: It's been the last couple of years in the games 772 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: that we've called to sell out, and it's really trying 773 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 4: to make a informed judgment on will people in these 774 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 4: general admission areas have a bad experience, even though like 775 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 4: we have the true capacity to be able to take 776 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 4: you on and have you in the ballpark, and we 777 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 4: can legally do it. To be fair, if you're standing 778 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 4: behind that batter's eye of the whole game and you 779 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 4: really wouldn't be able to move anywhere else because there's 780 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 4: nowhere else to see the game, that's not a great 781 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: experience for our fans or anybody that's even purchasing a 782 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 4: general admission ticket at five dollars to be able to 783 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: come in and not have a have an experience where 784 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: they could see much of the game. There's obviously circumstances 785 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 4: where the game's really important and you might want to 786 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 4: might want to push the limit on that a little bit. 787 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: But I think I think really in the eight nine, 788 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 4: you know, high eight low nine thousand ranges where we're 789 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: most comfortable with having people in the ballpark and considering 790 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 4: it considering it a sellout. There are many occasions eli 791 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 4: where all of our seats are sold and we're just 792 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 4: selling those general admission tickets. So that's kind of where 793 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 4: you get to have that where you're kind of determining 794 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 4: what's that magic number to make sure that we're not 795 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 4: impacting all of our fans negatively by inviting another six 796 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: or seven hundred people into the ballpark. So that's something 797 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 4: that we have to think about on the business side 798 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: on what makes sense. But you of course want to 799 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 4: be ahead of it so you can just you know, 800 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 4: cut off the ticket sales, announce that it's a sell out, 801 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 4: and invite people to come out to another game. 802 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: You have alluded to it several times already about how 803 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: successful the team was this past season on the field. 804 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: The ultimate success not only being the best team in 805 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: the International League, but winning the national champion, the triple 806 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 2: national championship itself in Vergion, macfashion does that sort of thing, 807 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 2: any sort of notge anything when it comes to ticket 808 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: sales in twenty twenty six compared to just an ordinary year, 809 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: because you can tell these accolades. 810 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 3: From what we've seen so far. 811 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, the enthusiasm around the team is certainly 812 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 4: much higher than I'd ever seen in previous years. And 813 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 4: you know, I think generally speaking, and it's true that 814 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: you know, minor league baseball as a whole, you know, 815 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 4: doesn't focus as much on the success of the team 816 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 4: on the field, probably first and foremost that they don't 817 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 4: have any impact on it, which. 818 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 3: Is which is true. 819 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 4: Again, We're we're we are the fortunate recipients of of 820 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: having a very successful team in twenty twenty five. Again, 821 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 4: it was nothing that we that we constructed or had 822 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 4: anything to do with, so we're fortunate to benefit from it. 823 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, we've most certainly seen in our season ticket 824 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: renewals and people that are interested in coming by the 825 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 4: ballpark and purchasing something in the team store that might 826 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 4: have national championship logo and Moniker on it. So we're 827 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 4: certainly expecting to see more enthusiasm in the ballpark as 828 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: we move into twenty twenty six, but it's not something 829 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: that we plan for and it's not something that we 830 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 4: really factor too much in our strategy on trying to 831 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 4: enhance the fan experience here at the ballpark. 832 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: If that makes sense. M hmm. 833 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: That's a good transition. One of the last questions they 834 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 2: wanted to get with you on you. 835 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: Have two children? Is that right? 836 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 3: I do? 837 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 2: Are that the age where if they go to a 838 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: lot of Jumbo Shrimp games. 839 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: They're out here for I'd say they probably we have 840 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: a seventy five home game schedule. I'd say they probably 841 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 4: come out to ten or twelve of them. Yeah, six, 842 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: six and four knock some LEXI, So yeah, they come out. 843 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 4: They come out probably ten to twelve times a year. 844 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 4: So that's a good handful for sure. 845 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: I'll say this carefully. 846 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: Have they have you Have you been able to use 847 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: them effectively as to kind of test drive certain promotions 848 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: or to get to get actual feedback on the fan 849 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: experience from them. 850 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: Have they helped in any way. 851 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 2: Guide some of the decisions that you make to optimize 852 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: that fan experience. 853 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 4: They're they're not shy to tell me what kind of 854 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 4: ice cream they like and what kind of food they 855 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 4: like and things like that. So I guess in the 856 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 4: new role I'm in, maybe I'll want to be a 857 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 4: little bit more cognizant of some of those things here. 858 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: But they they haven't, they haven't impacted too much of. 859 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 4: The decision making yet, but their their opinions are are 860 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: certainly clear and widely known when they have them. So 861 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 4: we we love having them out and getting them the 862 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 4: chance to experience experience the game in the ballpark. They 863 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 4: they really enjoy just all the pump and circumstances. I 864 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 4: think that is around being at a at a Jumbo 865 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 4: Shrimp baseball game. They love coming out and getting their 866 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 4: face painted by on a Sunday and running the bases 867 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 4: after the game. Game on a Sunday, we do Sunday 868 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 4: Family Fun Day here at the ballpark, and that's the 869 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 4: date where where my kids tend to tend to. 870 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 3: Come out and enjoy. 871 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 4: But you know, when they run into Scampion South Park mascots, 872 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 4: they love, you know, getting a picture and giving them 873 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: a hug and a high five and looking at the 874 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 4: teams toward all the different stuff. 875 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 3: So they. 876 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 4: I guess when you when you kind of put it 877 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 4: that way, maybe I've never given it enough credit. They're 878 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: kind of the ideal fan that we're looking for, you know, 879 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: They're they're they're they're the they're the type of person 880 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 4: that we're trying to please, because anytime I try to 881 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 4: get them to sit down and watch an ending of 882 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 4: the game, they're they're they're not too interested in that 883 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 4: quite yet at six and four years old, but all 884 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 4: those other things that are around it are ore their 885 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 4: primary concerns, and they certainly are excited to come, you know, 886 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 4: see their dad at work and and be part of 887 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 4: the experience. And I hope that continues as they grow 888 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 4: up and get the chance to see more and more 889 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 4: Jumbo Shrimp games out here. But yeah, listening to them 890 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: is certainly going to be a good idea as a 891 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: as we move on, and we'll need to make sure 892 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 4: that we consider it, consider not only their feedback, but 893 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of our fans aren't trying to 894 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 4: let us know what they think, and that's always that's 895 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 4: always a good thing for us. You know, sometimes you 896 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 4: hear about things that can be improved but that all 897 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 4: helps us get better, So it's always good stuff to 898 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 4: keep in mind, that's for sure. 899 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 900 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: One thing that I sped past that I want to 901 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: touch on is that I know that in the past 902 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: when Marlin's affiliates have won league championships, they actually receive 903 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 2: championship rings of some kind. Does that get extended to 904 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 2: people in your position or is it only players? 905 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 3: We collaborated with. 906 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 4: The Marlins on on the rings and and what they'd 907 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 4: look like and who would get them and all that. 908 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 4: So the team's going to get them, our front office 909 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: staff members or are going to have the chance to 910 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 4: get them and everything like that. So I think everybody 911 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 4: here on our staff already knows that, so that won't 912 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 4: be a surprise if. 913 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 3: They end up checking out our interview. But but yeah, so. 914 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 4: Everybody on our ends obviously super excited at that, right 915 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 4: That's you know, Eberber, Really, that's the crown jewel of 916 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 4: working in sports is being able to have one of those. 917 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: So I'm proud to know that I'll get one, and 918 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 4: that all our all of our team out here on 919 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 4: our side, we'll get them, and certainly the coaches and players, 920 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 4: you know, and Marlin's personnel to deserve a most we'll 921 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 4: get them as well, and we look. 922 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: Forward to uh. 923 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 4: I think we're planning on doing something down in Jupiter 924 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 4: during spring training to issue him to the team, and 925 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 4: hopefully our front office. 926 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: Can be part of that in some small way. 927 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: But we'll certainly be celebrating it in Jacksonville when the 928 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: season starts too, so we'll be collaborating on how to 929 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 4: make that impactful for not only the players, but our 930 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 4: front office and let our fans relation in a bit too. 931 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: The last couple of things to get with you, almost sure, 932 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: maybe a week or two after your promotion was announced, 933 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: is when the sale of the team became final, the 934 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: Jumbos going previously owned by Ken Babby for about ten 935 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 2: years and now being sold to the Prospector Baseball Group, 936 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 2: both of both of the affiliates that Ken owens going 937 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: in this transaction. He also owns it on the Cleveland 938 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: Guardians affiliates if I remember that correct, Ackmann Rubber Ducks, right. 939 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: So if first, before we're talking about the new folks, 940 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure you got to know Ken quite a bit 941 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 2: over these last four and a half years or so, 942 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: so he's now for anyone that's unfamiliar. He's not part 943 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: of the Tampa Bay Rays ownership group. He's their CEO, 944 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: and forgot that is still relatively young for somebody in 945 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: that position. He could be years down the road. It 946 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 2: could be one of the more influential businessmen in baseball eventually. 947 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: So anything that you could tell us about Ken that 948 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 2: you feel made him very successful with his shrimp, anything 949 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: in particular that you learned from him along your professional 950 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: journey these last few years. 951 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean that that'd be a thirty minute 952 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 4: conversation on him on its own. Ken has been so 953 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 4: impactful on everything that we've been doing here in Jacksonville 954 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 4: over the four and a half years that I've been 955 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 4: here so far. Such a thought leader and helping us 956 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 4: plan and devise these ballpark plans that we've done over 957 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 4: the last few years. Hands on, enthusiastic, somebody that you know, 958 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 4: really brought just so much energy and pride and you know, 959 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 4: positive ideas to the table to try and help us 960 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 4: improve along the way. I know he's he's been a 961 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 4: big part of the success and growth. He's he's I mean, 962 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 4: he's been the driving force, along with Harold CARRR the 963 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 4: our GM too, that had been that that I'm I'm 964 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: filling his shoes of So that's also gonna move move 965 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 4: out to Tampa and work work with Kenn at the Rays. 966 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 4: They've they've done so much for for this franchise and 967 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 4: for this community. It's a it's hard to quantify it 968 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 4: and put and put it all into into a succinct 969 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 4: thing to say, But I'm super proud to know Ken 970 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 4: and and had the chance to work for him for 971 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 4: four and a half years, and the I learned so 972 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 4: much about how to conduct myself and to work through 973 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 4: tough situations and. 974 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: How to lead through you know, important. 975 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 4: Things that are that are happening, things that I hope 976 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 4: have prepared me very well to now be the president 977 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 4: and GM of the team as we sit here today. 978 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 4: So I'm super proud of of Ken and getting getting 979 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 4: the chance to know him and all the things that 980 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 4: they'll bring to Tampa. I know a lot of is 981 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 4: expected of him and his team over there now there. 982 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 4: You know, they've been trying to get a stadium built 983 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 4: for for a long time, and I know he, he 984 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 4: and the group that they're assembling over there are going 985 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 4: to be the right the right crew to get that 986 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 4: over the finish line and make things happen. So uh, 987 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 4: wishing them the best and certainly always going to offer 988 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 4: my assistance when whenever it can be helpful and useful. 989 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 4: But Ken, Harold and and the Fast Forward Sports Group 990 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 4: where and an ultimate pleasure to work with. And I 991 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 4: learned so much from them and and and oh a 992 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 4: lot too, So I'm very thankful for my time getting 993 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 4: to know them and and you know, hopefully the continued 994 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 4: relationships still beyond mm hmm. 995 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: Have you had a chance ahead any conversations with these 996 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 2: new ownership folks at this point from Prospective Baseball group? 997 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, any could. 998 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: You guys in this group that people might want to 999 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: be familiar with moving forward, and if there's just any 1000 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: early indications in terms of things that they might want 1001 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 2: to change or things that they might want to keep 1002 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 2: the same with the franchise. 1003 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 4: John Abamondi and Ben Boyer are kind of the two 1004 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 4: front front line leaders of Prospector Baseball. They're there, They've 1005 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 4: they've purchased us an Akron and the Lancaster Stormers as well, 1006 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 4: so they own the three teams. 1007 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 3: Now. 1008 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 4: I've certainly had a good chance over the last few 1009 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 4: weeks month, maybe a little bit over a month to 1010 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 4: get to know John and Ben very well, and they're 1011 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 4: very excited to UH to now own on the Jacksonville 1012 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 4: Jumbo Shrimp and UH and those other clubs as well. 1013 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 4: They're certainly given given us the impression that they're they're 1014 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: proud of the asset that they've wired and wanted to 1015 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 4: wanted to continue down the positive path that it's already on. 1016 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 4: So that certainly was music to my ears, and I 1017 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 4: was thrilled to know that they that they thought that 1018 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 4: I would be the right type of guy to be 1019 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 4: able to lead this team moving forward. So they're they're, 1020 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 4: you know, interested in trying to make us as as 1021 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 4: good as we can be, to continue the fan experience 1022 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 4: that we have here and to continue to welcome people 1023 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 4: in Jacksonville and beyond to come to come out to 1024 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 4: Jumbo Shront baseball games and enjoy the experience that that 1025 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 4: we've put on there. They're certainly interested in helping us 1026 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 4: improve in many different ways, a few of which that 1027 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 4: we've talked about have have been through the use of technology, 1028 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 4: which is really exciting to try and help make things 1029 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 4: easier and more efficient for our team here. When we 1030 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 4: when we try to conduct business, and I know all 1031 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 4: of our front office staff is very excited at the 1032 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 4: at the opportunity I had to work with John Ben 1033 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 4: and Prospector Baseball from this time moving forward. Yeah, it's 1034 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 4: been it's been a busy couple of weeks here and 1035 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 4: me transitioning into the new role, and. 1036 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 3: And knowing you know, and and the and the new 1037 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 3: ownership group taking over. 1038 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 4: But our team is super excited and and and ready 1039 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 4: to put put our best foot forward and continue to 1040 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 4: deliver on the Jumbo ship Jumbo Shrimp experience that I 1041 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 4: think most of our fans are accustomed to and certainly 1042 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 4: hopefully the Marlins that have seen from us. So we're 1043 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 4: expecting a lot of continuity there and it's a it's 1044 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 4: a really exciting time for us to uh to move 1045 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 4: forward with Prospector into into into new things that we 1046 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 4: hope will elevate what we're doing currently into into the 1047 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 4: best version that we've ever been. 1048 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 2: I'll get you out of here on this last note 1049 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 2: because heading into twenty six, outside of Jumbo Shrimp games, 1050 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: you host plenty of events at Vice Ballpark that are 1051 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 2: some sports related and even some otherwise. Where are a 1052 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: few of them top of your head that you're really 1053 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 2: about and optimistic about regular games themselves. 1054 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 4: We've got we've got three pretty big events that will 1055 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 4: be here this season. You know, obviously always actively seeing 1056 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 4: if anything else can fit it into our schedule, but 1057 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 4: a baseball tournament that will be here in February, that 1058 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 4: is that's gonna have four different college teams LSU, Notre Dame, Indiana, 1059 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 4: and UCF. They'll they'll do kind of a round robin 1060 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 4: tournament here the middle of February hosted by Peak Events, 1061 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 4: So they'll be I believe it's called the Live Like 1062 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 4: Low Classic and uh February twentieth through the twenty second. 1063 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 4: I believe Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, all four of those 1064 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 4: teams will each play each other over those three days. 1065 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 4: So LSU, of course, coming off their College World Series championship, 1066 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 4: will be cool to have some other champions in the 1067 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 4: park this year to play play ball. And then furthermore, 1068 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna have the Cosmic Baseball Tour here here in 1069 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 4: mid Mark, which I believe that's the nineteenth through the 1070 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 4: twenty first, and that's where they have a very unique 1071 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 4: experience where I think they play a little bit more 1072 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 4: of a traditional game at first, and then when it 1073 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 4: becomes nighttime, they actually turn black light on into the 1074 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 4: ballpark and it becomes a glow in the dark baseball game. 1075 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 3: So their jerseys are going. 1076 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 4: To glow, the ball will glow, and it'll be a 1077 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 4: really cool, unique experience. I know the first two days 1078 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 4: of that have sold out, and I believe we've announced 1079 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 4: a third day on the nineteenth, and I think those 1080 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 4: tickets might be going on sale either today or sometime 1081 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 4: this weekend. So if you're looking to come out to 1082 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 4: one of those games, make sure you don't hesitate, and 1083 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 4: when that third game goes on sale, to grab it. 1084 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 4: And then a third one would be Banana Ball coming 1085 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 4: back to the ballpark. It's not the Savannah Bananas themselves, 1086 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 4: but I believe it's the Indianapolis Clown and the Loco 1087 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 4: Beach Coconuts, two of their teams. They have six teams 1088 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 4: under the Savannah Bananas umbrella now in July second through fourth, 1089 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 4: they're going to be here by a Star ballpark. So 1090 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 4: we were at first a bit disappointed to learned that 1091 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 4: we wouldn't be hosting baseball on the fourth of July 1092 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 4: that's something that typically in the minor leagues. 1093 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 3: We had navigated in a way that either July. 1094 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 4: Third or fourth you would host, but the way the 1095 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 4: calendar falls, it's a it's a rotation year where one 1096 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 4: year you're gonna have it, the next year you're not. Unfortunately, 1097 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six was the year that we weren't, 1098 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 4: and you know you you'll get in twenty twenty seven. 1099 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 4: It's just kind of how it's going to go. Sixty 1100 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 4: Other teams are dealing with that. But we were fortunate 1101 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 4: to be able to book a series with with Banana 1102 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 4: Ball to be here and uh we certainly at all 1103 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 4: three of those events. I know they're all baseball centric, 1104 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 4: but uh, we're expecting to have great energy in the 1105 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 4: park and uh a lot of people to to enjoy 1106 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 4: those and and see a little bit something different than 1107 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 4: from baseball here in Jacksonville, which is cool. But we 1108 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 4: we've we've hosted unique events and movie nights and things 1109 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 4: like that on the on the field where people come 1110 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 4: out and see different movies that are that have that 1111 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 4: have recently come out. We typically charge charge people only 1112 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 4: a dollar to come in and they can sit on 1113 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 4: the field and watch a movie, and we're also we've 1114 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 4: had some unique events, like we recently had a twelve 1115 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 4: hundred person Christmas party where we set up tables and 1116 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 4: chairs on the concourse so they could they could eat 1117 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 4: and drink and enjoy while while they. 1118 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 3: Were celebrating their company holiday party. 1119 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 4: So we do a lot of unique stuff here if 1120 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 4: I start ballpark, and we're looking forward to doing a 1121 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 4: lot more, especially since a lot of these renovations now 1122 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 4: are starting to become in the rearview mirror. 1123 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 3: We're excited to activate them and get as much from 1124 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 3: them as we can. 1125 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 4: But it'll be an exciting twenty twenty six here and 1126 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 4: those events will be fun. I'm sure there'll be others 1127 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 4: that will come onto the calendar as well that our 1128 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 4: team are looking forward to taking on and bringing some 1129 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 4: additional excitement for the Jacksonville residents to be able to 1130 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 4: come out and enjoy. 1131 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 2: All Right, Well, Matt, I learned a ton from this conversation. 1132 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot for squeezing the in Oh, happy to 1133 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, congrats again on the promotion. Thank you, President, 1134 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 2: General manager of Jacksonville Drumbet Trip. And as we have concluded, 1135 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 2: he can call himself a triple A national champion himself, 1136 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 2: because that's right above the in the situation where you'll 1137 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 2: get a ring for that, So yeah, congrats. 1138 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 3: On that for that. 1139 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, a little bit of credit to the players 1140 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 2: and the coaches themselves and everybody else involved there. So yeah, 1141 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: this is great having you on the show. I appreciate 1142 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 2: all the updates and what you have moving forward. So yeah, 1143 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: good luck with the best of the off season, good 1144 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 2: luck with the championship defense heading into twenty twenty six, 1145 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: and ye have everything else that is going into the 1146 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 2: future of a Jumbo Shrimp baseball. Long time affiliated of 1147 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: the Marlins and expected to be affiliated with them for 1148 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 2: many years to come. 1149 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: So it's been right, Yeah, it's been. 1150 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun to cover and to watch, 1151 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: and I've heard good things about the players and everybody 1152 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 2: that has come through Jacksonville on their way up to 1153 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,919 Speaker 2: Miami themselves. So yeah, just keep up the good work, Matt, 1154 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 2: and once again, thanks a lot for coming on the show. 1155 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 3: Thank you, look forward to seeing you at the ballpark 1156 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: this year. 1157 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 2: We wrap up the show with my Swim around the Diamond, 1158 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 2: featuring four pieces of Marlin's related content from outside of 1159 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: Fish on first that caught my attention that I recommend 1160 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: to you for representing first base, second base, third base, 1161 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,439 Speaker 2: and home plate. You can find the links to each 1162 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: of these items in the episode description the article page 1163 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 2: wherever you're watching or listening to this and be able 1164 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 2: to scroll down and follow directly so that you can 1165 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 2: check them out yourself. We start at first base with 1166 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 2: the manager of the Marlins, Clayton McCullough. On Friday, he 1167 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 2: was invited back to his alma mater, East Carolina University 1168 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 2: to be their commencement speaker for their fall twenty twenty 1169 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: five graduation. Nearly eighteen hundred students in attendance. McCullough gave 1170 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 2: it an eleven minute speech, give or take, and I 1171 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: thought he killed it. I thought he did exactly what 1172 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: you expect from someone in that position. He was true 1173 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 2: to his nature. He was just that's the most important thing. 1174 00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 2: He's just being yourself. He was very self deprecating talking 1175 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: about his struggles as a student a long time it 1176 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 2: took for him to earn his degree. Even though he's 1177 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: kind of a high profile figure as the manager of 1178 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 2: a Major League baseball team, he recognized that the most 1179 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: valuable advice that he could impart was about fighting through 1180 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 2: adversity and being receptive to the advice that you received. 1181 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 2: Keep learning, he said, keep growing, and even referenced some 1182 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 2: lessons that the Marlins themselves employ when it comes to 1183 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 2: their organizational philosophy. 1184 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: So I thought he did a great job with this. 1185 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: You'll be able to listen to the whole thing, assuming 1186 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: that you weren't watching it live on Friday. It was 1187 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 2: a yeah, cool moment for McCulla to be honored that 1188 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: way by the university that put him on track to 1189 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: be initially a professional baseball player and then soon after 1190 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 2: that professional coach and for the last couple decades, now 1191 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 2: moving up the ranks to finally become the skipper of 1192 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 2: the Fish on second base, fittingly Marlin's second base. Xavier 1193 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: Edwards he hosted his eighth annual baseball skills camp, the 1194 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: XC nine Skills Camp. As a guy that grew up 1195 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 2: in South Florida, he continues to hold that camp down 1196 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 2: in South Florida, and as he explains, he originally had 1197 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: about eighteen kids eighteen total campers the first year of 1198 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 2: the event when he had just become a minor leaguer 1199 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: and now it has grown to over two hundred campers. 1200 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: It includes guest instructors from all around Major League Baseball, 1201 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: including current Marlins teammates like Anthony Bender, Braxton, Garrett Tyler, 1202 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Phillips It and it included guys from across the majors, 1203 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 2: including Haesuslizardo and others from other teams. Most of them 1204 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 2: are based in South Florida themselves, so it's no heavy 1205 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 2: lifting for them, just to be there for the kids 1206 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 2: to teach them a thing or two to have a 1207 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: good time. Christina di Nicola MLB dot com. She wrote 1208 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: up the specifics about how the camp has grown to 1209 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 2: his current size and what X is trying to achieve 1210 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 2: by continuing to host it and continuing to make it 1211 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 2: accessible for youth players in the area. So good job 1212 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: by by Edwards to get that. 1213 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: Going on to. 1214 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Third base, Marlin's Maniac is doing a series highlighting the 1215 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: best Marlins to wear particular jersey numbers. With Marlins entering 1216 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 2: their thirty fourth season of franchise history, Sean Millrick is 1217 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 2: counting down from the number thirty four all the way 1218 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: to the number one a couple articles a week throughout 1219 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,479 Speaker 2: the rest of the off season. And a very clever 1220 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: way to appreciate Marlin's history to share with those that 1221 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 2: don't already aren't ready familiar with some of these key 1222 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 2: figures that came along during the previous few decades of 1223 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the franchise's existence. So I thought he's covered just a 1224 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 2: few of them so far as of this recording, number 1225 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 2: thirty four, number thirty three, number thirty two, and the 1226 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 2: countdown will continue at Marlin Maniac and we go home 1227 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 2: with the same place where we started. This showed word Cabrera. 1228 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 2: He was on the premiere out podcast that's recorded in 1229 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: the Dominican Republic. Gave them more than an hour of 1230 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 2: his time, kind of going through his whole history us 1231 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 2: as a professional baseball player and even before that. So 1232 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 2: it's in Spanish completely thanks to YouTube. They do provide 1233 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 2: automatic translations, or I should say an automatic transcript in English. 1234 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: It's not perfect, but for guys like myself, it helped 1235 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: me more than more than enough to follow along and 1236 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: get an idea in terms of what topics they were 1237 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 2: covering here, starting with how he signed to the Marlins 1238 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 2: in the first place, how he had offers from the 1239 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers, from the Colorado Rockies. I think he got 1240 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: especially close to signing with the Rockies before that deal 1241 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 2: that didn't go through winded up with Marlins. How quickly 1242 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: he added velocity once he got some proper coaching and 1243 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 2: once he started focusing on pitching full time. He used 1244 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 2: to have a strong interest in hitting even when he 1245 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 2: started at the beginning of his pro career, but that 1246 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 2: quickly changed, and he goes through his whole process of 1247 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 2: developing in this organization, having the big year that he 1248 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty five, how it deals with trade rumors, 1249 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 2: his interest in pitching the World Baseball Classic. It was 1250 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 2: a very thoughtful conversation and very lively conversation, I think, 1251 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 2: four guys and all just chopping it up about various topics. 1252 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 2: So I enjoyed it a lot. It was a good 1253 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 2: look inside Caprera's mind for a guy that usually is 1254 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 2: not all that eager to speak with the media, but 1255 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 2: in this comfortable environment, he really unloaded on a lot 1256 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: of different subjects that I think Marlin spancer, whether he 1257 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: stays or goes, I guess, especially if he stays, you 1258 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 2: guys will get a lot out of this, and that's 1259 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 2: still a possibility despite all the. 1260 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Rumors that are out there, so there we go. 1261 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll i'll have the links to all those in the 1262 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 2: description if you haven't checked those out on your own, 1263 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: and that's going to do it here from the official show. 1264 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 2: Thanks everybody for tuning in to the program as we 1265 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 2: get close to the end of this year. 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Thanks for your support and 1273 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 2: be sure to leave a like, subscribe to the podcast 1274 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: wherever you get it, let us know that you're listening 1275 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 2: and that you're enjoying what we're talking about, and as always, 1276 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 2: your welcome to leave comments with all your ideas about 1277 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 2: how the Marlins should proceed with the rest of this 1278 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 2: offseason and into a very consequential twenty twenty six season. 1279 01:04:41,000 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you again soon. As always, go Fish