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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we will continue to push

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Speaker 1: that push.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris.

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Speaker 1: Westling podcast studio with my friend Patrick claybah And from Ohio,

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Speaker 1: Kent State's own Nick Shook.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Patrick, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's I was thinking, after all the shoved discussion, that

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Speaker 3: old high school cheerleader treat like cheer shove that ball

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Speaker 3: across that line, shove shove it. Nobody, nobody was familiar

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Speaker 3: with that one. It's it's perfect for the situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got nothing. I wasn't listening to the cheerleaders

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Speaker 4: during the game.

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Speaker 1: From the man who loves the flex, a total flex. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hit the news. Obviously, there were a couple

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Speaker 1: rules proposals that failed at the latest league meeting. Some

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Speaker 1: hard knocks news OTAs have started. That's fun. I gotta

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Speaker 1: admit like hearing little updates about depth charity stuff. It

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Speaker 1: does make me feel like football's back a little in

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Speaker 1: a way that's meaningful to me.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it was a tough loss for the NFL community

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday when Jim Mersey, the owner longtime owner of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, passed away, so we will talk about him

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's start with the rules.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a little surprised because both the proposal to

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Speaker 1: kill the tush push essentially and the proposal to reseed

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, according to reporting, kind of came directly indirectly,

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Speaker 1: I guess would be the right way to say it

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Speaker 1: from the league that the league was supporting this, and

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Speaker 1: yet both measures did not pass. The tush push was

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Speaker 1: shot down even though more teams wanted to kill it

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Speaker 1: than not twenty two to ten, but you needed twenty

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Speaker 1: four votes. So for the twenty twenty five season, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles have a little bit of an edge at that play, but.

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Speaker 2: Other teams could take advantage of it too.

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Speaker 5: Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the discussion out of Philadelphia all week was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jordan my lotta like, hey, if they ban it,

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Speaker 3: we'll just do something else, like Jalen hurts and aj

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Speaker 3: is saying it's just one yard. But then you see

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Speaker 3: the reaction from Eagle social right, yes, and they post

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Speaker 3: twenty six minutes of the I wish we would still

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Speaker 3: go brotherly show, but I guess the brushes is over

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Speaker 3: and it's here now we're you know, you kind of

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Speaker 3: see all sides of this. I think, like, maybe we

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Speaker 3: go a direction because if the league wants to do

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Speaker 3: it from a standpoint of watchability, and like, is this

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Speaker 3: what we want football to be? Did I guess get

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Speaker 3: rid of quarterback sneaks all together? Like if that's a

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Speaker 3: particular concern. But yeah, we've we got one more year

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Speaker 3: and we can see a very dominant team that's very

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Speaker 3: good at it, be very good at it.

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Speaker 4: Still well, I think the Eagles are the phase of

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Speaker 4: the rebellion.

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Speaker 6: They didn't get the two teams that they needed to

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Speaker 6: cross the aisle and shoot this down. But at the

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Speaker 6: same time, it's a matter of, yeah, this is still

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Speaker 6: kind of football, and it's a product quality thing I understand.

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Speaker 6: But football and its purest format, its most basic form,

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Speaker 6: resembled somewhat of a rugby scrum before it developed into

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Speaker 6: what we now know.

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Speaker 4: And it's still a brutal game.

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Speaker 6: And when you have to win in the trenches and

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Speaker 6: ensure our situations, the solution is simple, don't let them

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Speaker 6: get to third or fourth and one, find a way

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Speaker 6: to stop it. It's not gonna last beyond this season,

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Speaker 6: I don't think. I think they'll win the war of attrition.

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Speaker 6: But as of right now, we get one more year

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Speaker 6: of an ugly play.

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Speaker 2: That is fine. It's fine, like they would have figured

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Speaker 2: it out.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that, like they are a great quarterback

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Speaker 1: sneak team. It is ultimately a quarterbacks quarter play. Like

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Speaker 1: the push of it all is only part of it.

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Speaker 1: And to me, you know, maybe not the most important part.

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Speaker 1: The important part is that they just have a good

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Speaker 1: same reason why the Bills are excellent attitude. I like

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Speaker 1: the teams that voted for it or against it just

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Speaker 2: Good job, Good job Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that some of the ex

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Speaker 2: But then I thought more about it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, the coaches are only so important, especially

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Speaker 3: Ownership is And it also like Stichen's offense, right, and

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Speaker 3: then the fact that the Cardinals have a quarterback that's diminutive, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many shoves you're gonna run with

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Speaker 3: Kyler in that spot, and sometimes just don't want to

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Speaker 3: argument where it would have eliminated pushing everywhere, like including

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Speaker 3: but I hate not doing things because it's too differ

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel that strongly, but it just seemed stupid

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Speaker 1: because it works. So yeah, so I just didn't want

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Speaker 1: So it just seemed phony. That' said they did get

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Speaker 1: talk about the receding. That he made clear was these

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Speaker 1: so he said talking about the receding proposal, which would

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Speaker 1: have had teams seeded by order of their record, irrespective

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Speaker 1: the team with the lowest seed, Like all of that

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Speaker 1: It does sound like the league would rather a team

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Speaker 1: But it didn't even get close, Nick, It didn't even

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is tied into the schedule because

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Speaker 4: There's more balance to their schedule.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you play less Western Conference opponents than Eastern Conference

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Speaker 6: if you're in the Eastern Conference, but there's more games

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Speaker 6: So I think if they can kind of couple this

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Speaker 6: more likely. I definitely think at some point they're going

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Speaker 6: they need more time to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I am for the NFL's position on this one. I'm

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Speaker 1: against it in terms of the Touchbush. I think that

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Speaker 1: to receid. And the scheduling argument doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 1: me because the schedule is inherently so uneven in so

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Speaker 2: There's like there's no fixing that totally.

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Speaker 1: And just because the schedules uneven, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: the receding possibility.

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Speaker 2: Helps that at all. It might hurt it even more.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like a brain buster, but ultimately, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a question of which team and which accomplishment

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Speaker 3: are we going to prioritize because the balance is always

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Speaker 3: wins thirteen games? Yeah, but they have a juggernaut in

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That's the whole idea is to help out the Vikings

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Speaker 1: bad division championship teams and like it's fine, you do

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Speaker 1: We've seen that, but you know, make it happen on

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Speaker 1: on side kicks they are going to adjust that that

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Speaker 1: slight tweak. And that they have introduced a new award, Shookie,

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Speaker 1: are you excited about the Protector of the Year award?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, baby, because offensive linemen never get any credit or

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Speaker 6: it's the most overlooked position in the sport, and now

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Speaker 6: Do we think that the whole proposal of like fourth

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Speaker 6: the on side kick is dead? Yeah, it feels like

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Speaker 3: There's been a bunch of chances, a bunch of discussions.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't seem like it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, a few years from now they'll try to

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Speaker 1: revive it. That is a bummer, but it is exciting

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Speaker 1: the Protector of the Year award the offensive lineman, and

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Speaker 1: it will be determined because the NFL is saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: us media folk, we can't comprehend offensive line play. And

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Speaker 1: they're probably right, and they're gonna have this award decided

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Speaker 1: by like a panel of esteemed x offensive lineman. I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure that these guys are actually

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Speaker 1: doing the work though, because the and the ones that

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Speaker 1: And Andrew Whitworth was was integral and making this Protector

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Speaker 1: of the Year award happen. But Dion Dawkins, the Buffalo

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Speaker 5: I like it. They're not scared of attention.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 5: They're not running from anybody.

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Speaker 5: Anybody can get it at any point. I love it.

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Speaker 3: accessible NFL owners who publicly dealt with struggles that I think,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, not to highlight or celebrate them, but I

444
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Speaker 3: think to see somebody in that position go through something

445
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: real kind of allowed that level of connection between a

446
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Speaker 3: lot of NFL fans and Jim Mersie that you just

447
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Speaker 3: don't get another place.

448
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Speaker 1: Ran into Steve Weisch on the way in here and

449
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Speaker 1: said how great a job he did, because you know,

450
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Speaker 1: they were just on the air and then this happened

451
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Speaker 1: and I was watching his coverage and accessible is a

452
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Speaker 1: really interesting point because I think Steve would say, like

453
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Speaker 1: the most like someone close that a lot of not

454
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Speaker 1: just reporters had relationships with, but players had really close

455
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Speaker 1: relationships with, fans had relationships with I can't I can

456
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Speaker 1: remember going to Colts training camp for a Frank Gore piece.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know when that was now, six six seven

458
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Speaker 1: years six years ago, seven years ago, and ursayes just

459
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: driving around on the golf cart handing out envelopes of

460
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Speaker 1: cash at random to fans just because he wanted to

461
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Speaker 1: whoever he thought was kind of being the best fan

462
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Speaker 1: and like being the most energetic, like he was doing that.

463
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Speaker 1: And there's so many stories of his personality on a

464
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Speaker 1: one on one basis, But you just heard it Nick

465
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Speaker 1: from like the ex players just saying what he meant

466
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Speaker 1: to them. Ryan Kelly, who lost his child at a

467
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Speaker 1: young age, saying how much Jim Mersey's support meant for

468
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Speaker 1: him in that moment and giving him all the access

469
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Speaker 1: and help that he could have. And I think it's

470
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Speaker 1: really telling that Edgrin, James, Marvin Harrison, and Dwight Freeney

471
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Speaker 1: all chose Jim Mersey as their presenter at the NFL

472
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and Ers was on record saying, like,

473
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Speaker 1: other than the super Bowl title, that to him was

474
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Speaker 1: the greatest honors in the highlight of his NFL career.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think it typified who he was as

476
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Speaker 6: a person, somebody who was so passionate about so many things,

477
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Speaker 6: chiefly among them the Indianapolis Colts in the city of Indianapolis.

478
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a guy who was deeply involved

479
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Speaker 6: and very expressive and would not hide that just because

480
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Speaker 6: he happened to be an owner of a team and

481
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Speaker 6: came from wealth, he didn't let that limit him or

482
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Speaker 6: you know, make him, you know, prevent him from engaging

483
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Speaker 6: with the fans and the people in this that he

484
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Speaker 6: called home, and especially a home that they had to

485
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Speaker 6: kind of claim when they moved from Baltimore. And he

486
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Speaker 6: made such a positive impact on so many people. And

487
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Speaker 6: the saddest part about it is that he was only

488
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Speaker 6: sixty five. And I feel a direct connection to this.

489
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Speaker 6: My dad died at sixty three and it was also unexpected,

490
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Speaker 6: and I'm sure you know his family's you know, having

491
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Speaker 6: a tough time right now. It's way too young to

492
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Speaker 6: pass and it's definitely gonna leave a void in the

493
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Speaker 6: NFL that the culture in the league at large, you're

494
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Speaker 6: going to have to find a way to fill.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's involved.

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Speaker 1: His daughters and Tom Peli Sara talked about this very

497
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Speaker 1: prominently you know, his daughter was representing him at the

498
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Speaker 1: league meetings already, and so there is some preparation for this,

499
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Speaker 1: but you can never be prepared.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you mentioned family.

501
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Speaker 1: Just he comes from a fascinating lineage in a way

502
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Speaker 1: that his father and I think Jim mercy knew this

503
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Speaker 1: and would defend on some level, was one of the

504
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: most embarrassing NFL owners ever. You know, he died of alcoholism.

505
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: He had many public in front of a microphone incidents

506
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Speaker 1: that did not reflect well on the Colts or himself.

507
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: Because of his alcoholism. They moved the Colts out of

508
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Speaker 1: Baltimore in the middle of the night, which was a

509
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: dark moment for the NFL and certainly for Baltimore. And yeah,

510
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: you won't hear any of the ex Colts players from

511
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Speaker 1: them talk about Bob or say the way that everyone

512
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: is talking about Jim. And I bring that all up

513
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: to mean that, like, I think that does show a

514
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Speaker 1: strength that like your how you were raised and the

515
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: mistakes that the generation before you that he obviously struggled

516
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: with made, that you don't have to make all those

517
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: same mistakes either. And I think the legacy that he

518
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Speaker 1: has with the people around him and just the outpouring

519
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Speaker 1: of how much to Mersey meant to him.

520
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Speaker 2: It says a lot.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can see it, you could say, the

522
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: way the community and the league all over has reacted

523
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: to this like it's Jim, I say, meant something to

524
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Speaker 3: football and to America and the fans.

525
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, an interesting guy, you know, Like I mentioned,

526
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: he was a GM, which is crazy. He was the

527
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: youngest GM in the history of the NFL at the time,

528
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: and he traded for Eric Dickerson. They had been awful

529
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Speaker 1: for about ten years straight and they did make the playoffs.

530
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Speaker 2: You know, he was a Jim for a time.

531
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Speaker 1: Probably not the job that he should have had, but

532
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Speaker 1: the job that he did have, but also was you know,

533
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: very decisive in making the biggest decisions in this organization's history.

534
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Speaker 1: There's a famous story that Bill Pollion wasn't totally in

535
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: on Jim, I'm in on Peyton Manning and that he

536
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: at one point like slammed his his you know, fist

537
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: down on Ersa's desk. Bill Pollion did this and was

538
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: saying like that Peyton Manning's ceiling might be Bernie Kozar.

539
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: And the line is that he said, can you live

540
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: with Bernie Kosar because he thought the ceiling reportedly of

541
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Leif was higher, pounding on the desk, and Ersae.

542
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Was like, no, Manning, this is my guy.

543
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I am not betting on this. In the same way

544
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: that he did not bend on the decision to cut

545
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and move on to the Andrew Luck era

546
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: when that crazy season kind of all came together. So

547
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: he made tough decisions and still had like the love

548
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: of respect of Peyton Manning afterwards, which I think says

549
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Speaker 1: a lot. We're going to take a quick break, but yes,

550
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Speaker 1: rest in peace to one of the legends of the game,

551
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Speaker 1: Jim Ursay, dead at sixty five years old. Back on

552
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Speaker 1: NFL Daily, We're going to do some Ota nuggets, some

553
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: Oti buzz love it.

554
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: We have on field stuff to talk about.

555
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: One thing I wish I'd mentioned with Ersa too, is

556
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Speaker 1: like he helped get the insider out the paint.

557
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

558
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: Immediately he walks out of that meeting and it's like

559
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: he had just finished listening to ether or not like us,

560
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: even though it was before not like us, like he

561
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Speaker 3: had it was like a two solid minutes ripping him

562
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Speaker 3: to shreds in a sense where we're expecting like, oh,

563
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, you have to use the right language.

564
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

565
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: No, it's actually like the students trash get him out

566
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: of here. And he did it a legendary contribution and

567
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: removing a literal problem that was a problem for decades,

568
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: thought to Jennerson.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for a little context, that was what three

570
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: years ago now at a league meeting. And he even

571
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: said as he was doing those two minutes that I

572
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Speaker 1: will not be silenced. He made it clear that he

573
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: was not supposed to be talking about getting Snyder out

574
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: the league at that point, but it had clearly gotten

575
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: past the boy and Snyder had been bad for all

576
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Speaker 1: NFL business. And sometimes it takes someone with power like

577
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: Jim Merced to speak a little truth. And he helped

578
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Speaker 1: grease the skids to help the Washington commanders out, So

579
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Speaker 1: Washington fans should be grateful as well. All right, let's

580
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: talk about some nugs we could just bounce around. It's

581
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: the teams with the new coaches. I'm not pretending that

582
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: any of these stories are massive. It's just kind of

583
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: fun to talk about twenty twenty five football happening on field.

584
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: The very first ota that media is at for the Patriots.

585
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Drake May just throws four picks. I mean, why's he

586
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: got to do this? Shook out of his first nine passes?

587
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Four picks in the streets. Man panic in the New

588
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: England streets.

589
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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody call him down. You hired a defensive minded

590
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: coach for a reason. He's already got his fingerprints on

591
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 6: that defense. It's confusing. Drake a little bit gived time.

592
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: It's May.

593
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: Everything's fine, relaxed.

594
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm not too worried.

595
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: So but I did listen to Tom Currn's podcast on it,

596
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: and he was like, one was just like a bad

597
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: overthrow on an open short receiver, which Drake May does

598
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: do more than you want. It's got a little young

599
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in him. Another was just some missed assignment.

600
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Speaker 1: And yeah, the rest is, you know, it's first day stuff.

601
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Speaker 1: I did think it was noteworthy, though. Christian Barmore is

602
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: out there and reportedly looking really good.

603
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: He's fully cleared.

604
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Speaker 1: And I did a podcast with Taylor Kyle's over who

605
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: covers the Patriots, and he was great, and I started

606
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: thinking about this Patriots roster. They added a lot of

607
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: free agents and obviously they're excited about their draft but

608
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: I think just as important for them are actually these

609
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: guys that they have on the books that have been

610
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: good players in the back in the past, like bouncing back.

611
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: They have a number of them, but Kristen Barmore would

612
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: be number one amongst them because this this dude could

613
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Speaker 1: be like an all pro pro bowler type and supposed

614
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: they looked really good.

615
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it turns out when there's a roster devoid of

616
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: talent that that in and of itself depleted, things are

617
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: going to be very, very bad. And so yeah, the

618
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Patriots will be significantly better. Can't wait to root for them.

619
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Speaker 2: Oh ever, so a, that's right.

620
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: Wow, that was a great rug pull. That was fantastic.

621
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: Well are you gonna root against him?

622
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know they're back, The Patriots going to be

623
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: back there are going to be good.

624
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: Their quarterback is going to be good.

625
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: They got you know, they got their partnerships with the

626
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: schedule release video and they're like, hey, you know what,

627
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't like the Patriots, you keep doing it, and.

628
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that really bothered me. Their schedule release

629
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: video if you know which one I'm talking about. My god,

630
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: come on, we're just trying to make it easier on us.

631
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Speaker 5: They're just bringing things back to reality.

632
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Greg Barmore, Yeah, I mentioned those like veterans that they

633
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: could bounce like Remandre bouncing back, I think would be good.

634
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Bourne actually, if he makes this team,

635
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: could help him out a lot a year further removed

636
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: from surgery. Mikeuldn't when you got a ton of money

637
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: and then at his worst season, now the coaching was terrible,

638
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: but like that's someone. And then I did think about this,

639
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: and the people watching noted that the Mario Douglas, like

640
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: they think he could have a monster role here. It's like,

641
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: if you look at this roster, shook, I don't know

642
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: if there's a player that on most rostered would even

643
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: though there deeper would be a number two receiver like

644
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Stephan Niggs isn't healthy, so I'm not really counting on

645
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: him yet. So I look at this roster and think

646
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: of what's worked for Josh McDaniels in the past, and

647
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: to Mario Douglas a good player, and I could actually

648
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: see like the Mario Douglas kind of being literally the

649
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: centerpiece of their passing game.

650
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 6: Well yeah, and then I think that points to why

651
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: he made that note. About Kendrick Bourne too, is a

652
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 6: lack of available guys. But don't forget about mac collins,

653
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 6: who had a nice little year in Buffalo. If Jalen

654
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: Polk would have just lived up to his expectation, as

655
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 6: you know, a relatively early pick, then this wouldn't really

656
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: be much of a discussion, right because he was inconsistent. Yeah,

657
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: but luckily he's young and he's only got a year

658
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 6: in the league, So maybe we end up talking about

659
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 6: them having a nice little trio once Diggs comes back healthy,

660
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Speaker 6: depending on how good he is.

661
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: Yeahs with the mccollins disrespect from Greg just now.

662
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Speaker 1: I mean as like he's more there for like blocking,

663
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, right, I think that's a fan of.

664
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Speaker 4: Being grounded, you know, walking barefoot. That's what it is.

665
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Speaker 1: The Bears are one of the teams that are also

666
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: practicing this week.

667
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams.

668
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Speaker 1: They didn't schedule him to talk to the media, which

669
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Speaker 1: they don't have to at this time of year, but

670
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: the media certainly would want to talk to Caleb Williams

671
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: because he's the starting quarterback and because Caleb Williams made

672
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: some news last week.

673
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: We didn't get too deep into it.

674
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: He made the News the comments to Seth Wickersham for

675
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: a book that's going to come out in September. But

676
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: the excerpt came out last week and it detailed a

677
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: very organized and interesting effort by Caleb Williams's father to

678
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: explore not getting drafted by the Bears, which I don't

679
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: blame him at all. They had the right idea. Ben

680
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Johnson was asked about all of that coming out.

681
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 8: I love it.

682
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 5: I love it.

683
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 8: I love the opportunity to come on in and change

684
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 8: that narrative. That's where great stories are written. And so

685
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 8: we're looking to write a new chapter here twenty twenty

686
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 8: five Chicago Bears and looking forward to the future.

687
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: I could just feel Patrick Wad and just jump in

688
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: and take apart in this story.

689
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: I mean, area man considers his options, right, like area

690
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: man considers relative leverage with regards to employment for his son.

691
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: And now like we have a story about a book.

692
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: The story was written by writer. I guess we'll find

693
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: out who wrote this story to sell Seth flush Wickerson's

694
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: book at some point, you know it comes out there.

695
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: But I just I don't understand the idea. Ben Johnson, right,

696
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: had numerous jobs that he didn't take any number of

697
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: people who have romantic relationships, at some point that person

698
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: was considering not being with you, Like the circumstances change.

699
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: And Caleb Williams is the quarterback of the Bears and

700
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: he wants to win there. I don't understand why this is.

701
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: A well because I don't think it reflects negatively on

702
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams.

703
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: If anything.

704
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: He went into the facility and at that point said

705
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: all right, like, let's try to win with these guys.

706
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that Carl Williams was on

707
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: the record believing that the rookie you know draft and

708
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Speaker 1: I think you're on board with him, is unconstitutional.

709
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: It's like and uh, like.

710
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 5: Do anything anyway like that.

711
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: The cap that they have, and that they explored very

712
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: serious legal options to potentially get out of it, and

713
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: that the Vikings were the team that they were, that

714
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: they were interested and Ryan Poles and the Bears had

715
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: to say, like, we're taking you no matter what. Man,

716
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: you can do whatever, you can say what you want.

717
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: You know, Carl Williams said Chicago is the place that

718
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go to die, and he wasn't wrong, and they

719
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: viewed the situation nick correctly that Shane Waldron and eber

720
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Flus were not the two guys to help his son

721
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: maximize his talent, and they didn't.

722
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but lost in that is the is the beauty

723
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 6: of how quickly things can change in the NFL because

724
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 6: of the lack of patience, and especially when all signs

725
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: point to whatever you have, you know, in place, not

726
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 6: being the best for the organization. Well then they get

727
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: fired and then somebody who is the ideal fit for you,

728
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: at least on paper comes in and takes the job.

729
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: Like like Patrick just said, there you know, Ben Johnson

730
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 6: took that job because he knew of the potential of

731
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and how they could you know, make some

732
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: magic together. I also just want to note though, how

733
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 6: the grin, the slight grin on Ben Johnson's face just

734
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 6: kind of illustrated how crazy he is as a football

735
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 6: guy to be like, Oh, bring me more. I want

736
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: the adversity, I want the challenge. I'm going to prove

737
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: you all wrong. I love it.

738
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I he's I'd love how he handles his press

739
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: availability Like he said that was such confidence, as like, oh,

740
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: you're coming to me with that, like he is the

741
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: right guy. But through no you know fault of literally yeah,

742
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: like through no fault Caleb. Like they lucked out Caleb

743
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Williams and his father, But like the Bears could have

744
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: easily with a little bit of luck won some more

745
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: games last year, and they could have wasted three years

746
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: on Matt Eberflus and Shane Waldron and it didn't.

747
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: It didn't happen.

748
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Caleb actually told Wickersham I quote, I wasn't ready to

749
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: nuke the city.

750
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: It would have been aggressive.

751
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: I think at some point some player might really do it,

752
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: even more than Eli Manning did with the Chargers, but

753
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: it will not be Caleb Williams. So that they're back

754
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: there on the field, that's fun. Quinn Williams and the

755
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: Jets are back on the field. I saw that they

756
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: had one hundred attendance. That's fun. I mean, no one's hurt.

757
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Every everyone, everyone's showing up, no one's holding out. And

758
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Quinn Williams was up talking at the podium and was

759
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: asked about the tweet that he had during the offseason

760
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: where when they got rid of Rogers, he said, oh great,

761
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: another year of rebuilding.

762
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 9: Definitely think it was an immature thing for me to

763
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 9: do At the moment, out of emotions, out of frustrations.

764
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 9: It is definitely immature and ever since, and I haven't

765
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 9: talked to Aaron previously, his dad, and just just looking

766
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 9: at and trying to grow as a leader, trying to

767
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 9: grow as a player, trying to grow as an adult.

768
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 9: Talking to him, talking to the staff and everybody else

769
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 9: just gave me a super super excited and super super

770
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 9: confidence that we're going in the right direction to win

771
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 9: football games and to do the things that I want

772
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 9: to do, like to change the whole narrative of the

773
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 9: New York Jets losing streets, so the playoff streets and

774
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 9: different things like that, because I was drafted here a

775
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 9: long time ago, and I was paid to help change

776
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 9: this thing around. And I were there with a bad

777
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 9: badge of honor and like a cape to make sure

778
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 9: that before I lead his game, the New York Jets

779
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 9: is going to be.

780
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: On top and good and good for for Quinnin. I

781
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 3: think it on both counts, right, like being frustrated being

782
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: there being a very good player on a bad team

783
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: that has the push was Hey, this this guy is

784
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: this guy is you know, levitating about Nazareth And he's

785
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: gonna save football, right, and and that's the pitch and

786
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: then like you get rid of that guy, and it's always, well,

787
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: now what do we do?

788
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 5: Right?

789
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: So I understand that reaction, but I also like that,

790
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: you know, the coaching staff, they reach out, they dictate

791
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: the plan to him, and he's not saying like, oh,

792
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that. He says, I understand the

793
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: plan and the vision. Now I see that, and yeah,

794
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: things are good.

795
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: I just watched that and thought about how these players

796
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: grow before our eyes. Like Quentin Williams, he said, I

797
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: got drafted there a long time ago. I was like, man,

798
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: it was that long ago, was it? But it's been

799
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: a minute. It was twenty nineteen, and I think of

800
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: him with the braces on and how he looked, partly physically,

801
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: but more how he sounded it back then. And now

802
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm listening to him now and it's like, Okay, he

803
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: entered the league on one level.

804
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Now he's a full grown.

805
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, adult and leader of that organization and one

806
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: of the best at his position in the entire league.

807
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: And I would not want to mess with with Quinn

808
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Williams this year. I don't know why. I just feel

809
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: like he's ready to go.

810
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

811
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 6: I also feel like his maturity is potentially synonymous with

812
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 6: where the Jets are heading is an organization. By hiring

813
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn and having a I think a smart offseason,

814
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 6: you know, they seem to be headed in the right direction,

815
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 6: and it's probably better that they're not in the spotlight

816
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 6: with Aaron Rodgers and everything else like they were the

817
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: last two years. That's kind of the get rich quick approach,

818
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 6: at least at quarterback, it was there.

819
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: They're lurking. They're out of the radar.

820
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: Right now, but keep an eye on them, and I

821
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 6: think it's because of players like him and the leadership

822
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 6: that comes with Aaron Glenn.

823
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: Don't be surprised if they exceeded most people's expectations this year.

824
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner are both there. In

825
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: theory they could be looking for new contracts, but like

826
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: I said, one hundred percent attendance and Wilson was supposedly

827
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: very active catching passes from justin fields.

828
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: It's all happening.

829
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: There's a center battle Joe Tipman versus free agent pick

830
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: up Josh Myers. We've got position battles. We've got one

831
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Supposedly it was supposed to be a

832
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: three way quarterback battle. Everyone kind of forgets about Jay Hayner.

833
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: What good reason being in the mix with Spencer Rattler

834
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: and Tyler Shuck. J Canner was hurt in the first

835
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: day of OT is apparently gonna miss some time so

836
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: he won't be part of that competition. But we're taping

837
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: this on Thursday. And Spencer Ratler, according to Nick underhoo

838
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: Hill at New Orleans Football, looked quote awesome in the

839
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: first OTA, shook eight for eight in some passes downfield.

840
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 1: Don't give up on Spencer Ratler in this battle just yet.

841
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 6: I mean, he wasn't time recruit back in the day.

842
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 6: But I'm more curious about where Nick Underhill lands. Which

843
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 6: side of the agenda battle does he land? Is this

844
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: pushing Rattler toward the front or is this legitimate?

845
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I think he's recognized, like most of the people covering

846
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: the team that Tyler Chuck is a heavy favorite because

847
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: of his draft status and because Kellen Moore took him.

848
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: But you never know what could happen once you get

849
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: out on the field. He could legitimately be a much

850
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: better player.

851
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: You feel, do you feel solid that the Chuck is

852
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: the is the more player and not the Loomis player,

853
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: or do you think those two things are.

854
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: I think the only evidence that Kellen Moore is part

855
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: of the Saints organization is that they draft Tyler Shock.

856
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: It has been like there's been no there's been nothing

857
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: has he done, There's no juice.

858
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: He certainly wasn't part of the whole.

859
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: Derek carfiask and I think they let him pick his

860
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is based on the reporting that our friend Adam

861
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: has done over at block party. But I think he

862
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: got to pick his quarterback because that's his thing, and

863
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: so that gives Shuck. Shuck apparently had a nice throw

864
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: down field to where she'd They're trying Trevor Penning at guard,

865
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: by the way, if you were if you were curious,

866
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: because you know, they drafted banks to tackle in the

867
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: first round. They drafted a tackle in the first round

868
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: last year Fuaga. So they're putting Penning at guard. The

869
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Browns they're practicing their back shook and Deshaun Watson is

870
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: throwing at the facility to some of the receivers that

871
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: cut my eye. I wouldn't think he would have been ready.

872
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily means he's going to be

873
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: ready anytime soon. But it's just kind of weird, like

874
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: he's still there and he's like literally at the facility

875
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: and throwing to the receiver.

876
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 6: As your thoughts, yeah, I mean he's under contract, but

877
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 6: the whole thing's just gross and it's just like, h now,

878
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Speaker 6: why are you they're throwing? They stay in the background.

879
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Speaker 6: Your time here is done. They have a million other

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks that they're going to try out. Why do you

881
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 6: have to insert yourself? But he has employed, So I

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Speaker 6: don't think it means anything. I don't think it matters

883
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Speaker 6: in the long run.

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Speaker 2: Well they might.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole thing where they get a certain amount

886
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: of insurance money that helps their cap if he doesn't

887
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: play at all this year. But could he potentially push

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00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: to play if he's already throwing, you know, by the

889
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: end of the year. Who knows. Just something to keep

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00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: an eye on. I don't think he'll ever put on

891
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: the uniform in the regular season ever again, but he

892
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: is there also there at least in Dallas rather but

893
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: on the field is Dak Prescott now cleared for everything

894
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: Patrick and they're they're big enough George Pickens at practice.

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00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: They're running out this four receiver set, they said, with

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00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's on the outside and you got Tolbert

897
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: and Turping working weird things on the inside and CD

898
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: moving all around.

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Speaker 2: Are Are you into it?

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00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm into it.

901
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: An opportunity for Doc to get that second weapon out

902
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: there with with CD, and if he stays healthy, they're

903
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: going to win ten plus games and have a chance

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Speaker 3: to either be successful or disappoint in the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 3: pretty much what is going to come down to.

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Speaker 1: I do like these cleared for everything, you know updates,

907
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: and Aidan Hutchinson is cleared, cleared for everything, and it's

908
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: like you get to these different points and other players

909
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: are not at those points, and I think those are

910
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: legitimate news items you can take away from me. There's

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00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: not a ton like, for instance, shook. Christian Wilkins is

912
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: not ready to play football again. I think people forget

913
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: what a serious foot injury he had. It was reported

914
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Speaker 1: by Tishan Reid, who does great work at the Athletic

915
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: that at some point this offseason he actually had to

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Speaker 1: put his boot back on during the off season. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a setback or anything,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't seem that close to getting on the

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Speaker 1: field again, so that's disappointing. But Max Crosby, who had

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Speaker 1: a pretty important surgery, a tightrod surgery, was back and

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Speaker 1: fully cleared. Malcolm Kunsu's coming off a torn acl is

922
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Speaker 1: not cleared, so it's just like figuring out who has

923
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Speaker 1: further to go to get to go play and Wilkins

924
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Speaker 1: might take a while.

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Speaker 6: One of my favorite things to do in life is

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Speaker 6: to cross things off a checklist because it makes them

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Speaker 6: feel productive and it's one less thing to worry about.

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Speaker 6: So when they're cleared for everything, all right, well set

929
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Speaker 6: it aside, don't have to monitor that. Hopefully everything goes

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00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 6: well for them going forward. The Raiders, at least Crosby's there.

931
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Speaker 6: Luckily it's May, so they still have time.

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Speaker 1: They have plenty of time, and they have made Ashton

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Speaker 1: Genty changes cool stance.

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Speaker 2: I'm not cool.

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Speaker 4: This is the sign. This is the sign that it's May.

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Speaker 6: Is that I'd pull up Instagram and NFL on CBS

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Speaker 6: tweets or posts on Instagram and getting all my platforms confused.

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Speaker 4: Look at the difference between Genti's stance.

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Speaker 6: His hands are on his knees now and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: oh god, it's late Maine. This is what we're going

941
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Speaker 6: to now.

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Speaker 3: As long as Chip Kelly is it randomly trading him

943
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Speaker 3: to the Buffalo Bills in the middle of the season,

944
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Speaker 3: I think I think things will be better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gotta be just fine. That is

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Speaker 1: probably our sign that this show is over. Appreciate everyone

947
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Speaker 1: checking out all the episodes this week and the Bobby

948
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Bowens episode which we put into our feed his podcast

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: We will be back next week.

951
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: We're going to put up a show Patrick and I

952
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: ranking some general managers.

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Speaker 2: We just mentioned Deshaun Watson.

954
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Speaker 1: I don't think Andrew Berry is gonna farewell unless Patrick

955
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Speaker 1: takes him off the board early.

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Speaker 3: No, we're definitely not taking Jimmy has them took the.

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Speaker 5: Credit there, so we're not gonna have it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So yes, we'll be ranking some gms.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back. Everyone's back at OTA's next week. We're

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Speaker 1: getting updates on stances. That's how you know football's back.