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Yeah? 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Are you looking for a new podcast that will make 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: you laugh, learn, and say get Yeah. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Then tune in to Look At Though Our Radio Season 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: ten Today, Okay. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: Look at Our Radio is a radiophonic novella, which is 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: just an extra way of saying a podcast. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Season ten of Look At Thought Our Radio is totally nostalgic. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: We're diving in with a four part series about the 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early two thousands. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: But that's not all. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: Season ten is also launching in the wake of LA 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: wildfires and a new Trump presidency. As always, we're leaning 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: into community by conducting critical interviews with people leading the 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: efforts to rebuild LA and fight back against oppression. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: Tune in to Look at Our Radio Season ten. Now 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: that's what I call a podcast. Love with every listen right. 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: At your fingertips. 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Loga Ola La Loka Morees. Welcome to season ten of 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Loka to a Radio. I'm Theosa and I'm Mala. 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Loka to a. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Radio is a podcast dedicated to our chiving our present 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in to Capitolo 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Docientos Veinti Sinko two twenty five. 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Last time on Loca to Our Radio, we talked about 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: the fire recovery efforts in Altadina and Pasadena. Go back, 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: listen to that episode and leave us a review. Now 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: let's move into our check in portion of the episode 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Climax or Cry. In this segment we talk about are basically, 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: it's our highlight of the week, what was the climax 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of our week and what made us cry this week. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: It's our version of Hill Valley Rose Thorne Climax or Cry. 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I'll start my climax literally, And I'm sharing this because 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 1: we are going to be in conversation with Latin Negra, 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: who is a sexologist, so I feel comfortable sharing in 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: this space. But I was recently gifted a Magic wand 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: it was a present and the Magic wand like the brand, 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: like the old school heavy duty vibrator. It looks like 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: a robot Q tip, like it's big. 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Does it connect to an electrical outlet? Like? 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: Is it that old school? 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Funny? You should ask because this version it is the 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: top of the line, so it can charge and hold 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: a charge for up to three hours. But you can 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: also plug it into the wall if you want to. 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: All right, So you can be hands free, but if 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you want to plug in, you have the option. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: All right, And what was it like, how does it 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: compare to maybe a smaller, more sleek version. 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: So you all our og listeners might recall there was 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: a time where Rebecca at the Blue Mey was sending 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: us vibrators of different sizes, different kinds. One that I 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: really loved, A bullet vibrator that you wore is like 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: a little gold necklace. Fantastic. This is a whole different level. 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: This is a machine. This is this is like the 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: AR fifteen A vibrators. 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: These don't compare it to an AR fifteen. 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Oh, vibrator is really it's 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: taking no prisoners truly, this thing, truly, this thing. So yeah, 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm literally climaxing so much all the time. I'm still 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: and that's my climax of luin. The thing that's making 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: me cry this week is that season three, this newest 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: season of White Lotus is simply not as good as 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: last season. Now, White Lotus as a show due to 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: the brilliance of Mike White, who writes and directs White Lotus. 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: It's a slow burn type of a show, you know, 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: like you're watching, you're waiting, anticipation is building, and the 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: action happens later. So I'm allowing for that to be 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: true this season, but it just doesn't have the magic 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: of last season. And it's because there's no Jennifer Coolidge. 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: I would also cry if Jennifer Coolidge was no longer 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: in the show that I wanted to watch. 73 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, she got killed off last season. Oh she did. 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I haven't been following. Yeah, that's that quote. These gays 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: are trying to kill me. Yeah, and then they did. 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: Damn well, I guess I can't watch now. 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: You spoiled it. I mean so sorry. But it's really good. 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: It's really good. So that's what's making me cry. I really. 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: It makes me so sad when a show from season 80 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: to season can change so drastically in like the quality 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: and the watch whether that's because of like the casting 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: or who's writing it or directing it. But you know, 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: there are those shows like Law and Order that it's 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: just it's the same every episode, every season. There's a 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: formula that's a formula. This is not that. So that 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: made me cry a little bit. That made me cry 87 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: a little bit those way. How about you and what's 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: your climax, what's your cry? 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm not climaxing at all. I think I need a 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: magic wand. 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: You can borrow mine whenever you want. 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: I have like, like, figuratively, I'm not climaxing, and that's 93 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: making me think literally, I need to climax. 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: I feel me, You feel me, of course. 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: And so I have nothing to share. This feels like 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: a blaw week. So there's no climax to share. There's 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: lots of cries, lots of tears to share, some serious, 98 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: some funny. Let's see, I'm crying because I'm learning a 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: new technique in tennis. This is super niche, so I'm 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: not going to get into it. But you know, it's 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: one of those things where like you're learning something new 102 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: and you're like, I got this, I'm getting so good 103 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: at this, and then you're taught another way to do 104 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: something and you're like, fuck, I'm starting over and it sucks. 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: And that makes me want to cry because I'm like 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: I was feeling myself like I was like I knew 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: what i was doing, and now I'm like, I don't 108 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm doing. 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm starting over. You like mastery, Yes, that's where you thrive. 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: That's where you're comfortable. I'm very intense as a person, 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: and like for our listeners, I need you to know, 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: she's like wearing a turtleneck and a wetter vest. I'm 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: very intensewards with my sweater vests. 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying something new. I'm trying to discover my personal 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: style this year. 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: It's very cute and you were doing. No, you're giving 117 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: like office siren. 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Mala has named that as my look, as my perpetual 119 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: evolving look. I guess is like office Siren. 120 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: It's right now because it's the combination of like gold jewelry, 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: the beat, the lashes, it's the u of it all. 122 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: But then you're throwing on a sweater vest. Yes, you're 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: wearing an oversized blazer. Yes, you know there might be 124 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: a loafer. There's I'm wearing loafers today. Yees currently right now. 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: But you're making it, you're making it siren, but you 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: are kind of giving it still like a little nineties 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: a wee bit. You're also giving like glam. Yeah, so yeah, 128 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: I see office Siren. I see that or like eighties 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: it girl in a rom com. Also that you're dating me. No, 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: it's just I think that what you're doing though, like 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: your look, because it's not like it's not like TikTok 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: shop looks. No, these are classic silhouettes. 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think that's what I'm learning as we 134 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: get older. It's like, actually everything is always in style 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: if it's your style, Like nothing is actually out of style. 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: You feel me, it's impossible. 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: It's impossible because it's like, sure, maybe it's not on 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: trend anymore, but like some things that they're called classic 139 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: for a reason. 140 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Exactly, you know, and like a turtleneck sweater vest combo 141 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: will never leave us. It will always be classic. 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: I've never worn a sweater sweater vest before. 143 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's so cute. 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: I've learned also as I get older that it's hard 146 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: to be a battie when you're always cold and I 147 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: run super cold. And obviously we live in La so 148 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: it's not that cold, but it's very. 149 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Cold for me. It's chili. It has been chilly. 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: It has been chilly, and so when you're trying to 151 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: be like a battie, a hot girl, but you're always cold, 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: well you have to dress like you're always cold. Yeah, 153 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: So that kind of like it's just up for interpretation. 154 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: Canna Baddy wear a crew neck? 155 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Yes? 156 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: Can she wear a turtleneck? 157 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Yes, it's encouraged in fact exactly. 158 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm also crying because I have this very terrible habit 159 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: of like watching my comfort shows so that I'm late 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: to like a lot of the things. And I know 161 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: that I'm late to a lot of the things like 162 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: White Lotus. I didn't know Jennifer Coolidge was killed off, 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: but I run that risk because I don't keep up 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: with them because I'm watching Ugly Betty for the millionth time, so. 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Real instead of the news stuff, let's rewatch. 166 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm rewatching a show from the mid two thousands because 167 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: it gives me everything. They don't make them like that anymore. 168 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: Like I was watching Ugly Betty and do you remember 169 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: this time in TV where like the cameos were everything, Yes, 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: where it's like it broke the fourth wall without breaking 171 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: the fourth wall. So I was watching Ugly Betty and 172 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: America Fideta plays Betty Squattez. I've talked about this in 173 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: previous episodes, so I'm not going to go that into it, 174 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: but there's a cameo where the actress that plays Betty 175 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: la Fea comes out in Ugly Betty, the American version, 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: and that just, like, ugh, was so good. Because the 177 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: cameos from the mid two thousands, like, I don't think 178 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: that they do them anymore because everything is like for streamer, right, 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: and we're not having that unique experience unless maybe it's 180 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: HBO where you're like watching week by week, and so 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: there's just something so delicious to me about like watching 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: a show from that time where there's a cameo and 183 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: you know that everyone was freaking out or like laughing 184 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: at that moment. I just feel like there's just something 185 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: about that that can be recreated now. 186 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: No, like the moment that surprise guest pops up on 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: the screen, Yes, and that episode is only available at 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: that exact moment on that day to watch. 189 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: Yes, And we can rewatch it now obviously, but unless 190 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: you were watching it at that time, you might miss it. 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh or or back in the day, the Disney Channel 192 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: shows used to do it where all of a sudden, 193 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: Destiny's Child is on. 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: An episode of Yes, right, Yes. 195 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: And everybody's freaking out and then they bust into a musical. 196 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: Number exactly that Yes Perfect. They used to really do 197 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: something with TV. There was something there, there was a 198 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: magic moment there. 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and where it's like I think there was also 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: like the actors are acting, you know in the TV show, 201 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: and now this pop star who we love is just 202 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: going to do a drop in, Yes, but we still 203 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: know they's a singer pop star. They're not being introduced 204 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: as a season regular rights, And it's sort of that, yeah, 205 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: breaking the fourth wall without breaking the fourth wall because 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: this famous person who's famous for us is also famous 207 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: in the world. 208 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: Of the show. 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Yes exactly, which made it really fun and like meta. 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, what a time. Yeah, that's my cry 211 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: for the week. I don't keep up with enough TV. 212 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: But maybe that's okay. 213 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's who knows, there's so much TV. There's so much. 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of television. 215 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: Yes, what I am watching that's kind of current or 216 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: at least like there's a new season and I'm watching 217 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: it actively is like Yellow Jackets. 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Ooh, now that's an intense show. 219 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: That's an intense show. I'm an intenseron I read and 220 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: watch a lot of intense things. So I need the 221 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: ugly Betty for some levity. 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, you're well your cerebral you're thinking about 223 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: the human condition, right, I can appreciate that somebody else 224 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: to do it. 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: All right, Well that's our climax and cry for the week. 226 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, locomotives. 227 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back with more of 228 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: our episode. And now now we have the immense pleasure 229 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: of bringing to you one of our favorite segments, O 230 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: lokas you are now listening to. 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: So this question was submitted by our very own producer, 232 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: and she asked, how do I balance my creative dreams 233 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: with my nine to five? She felt that that was 234 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: a question that our listeners would resonate with because a 235 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: lot of us have creative dreams, but are maybe balancing 236 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: a nine to five at the same time. 237 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: Yes, that used to be us. I don't really know 238 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: what that's like anymore because I haven't had a nine 239 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: to five years now. Yeah, just wild to think about. 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 241 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: I never actually thought that I would be that person 242 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: who can say like, oh, like, I'm a creative and 243 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I do this may that, but no, I don't have 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: a nine to five. But that is our reality. That's 245 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: where we are. The podcast is our job. We do 246 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: other gigs like we have a lot of other things 247 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: going on. We don't have all of our eggs in 248 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: one basket. It took working nine to five yeah, to 249 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: be able to step away from the nine to fives. 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 251 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: And only when we had something very secure and writing 252 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: and contractual and looked over by our attorney. We didn't like, 253 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: throw all caution to the wind and just quit the 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: jobs and step out on faith. We did not do that. No, 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: and we never encourage anybody to do that. Keep your 256 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: job for as long as possible, as long as possible, 257 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: because you do not want to be in a situation 258 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: where you leave your job, you leave your stability, and 259 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: you don't have something lined up. Yeah, you cannot focus 260 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: on your creative work if you are struggling to survive. 261 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: I think that it's okay to have a nine to five, 262 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: As I've been in this full time creative space for 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: two years now, officially, I can say that, like, it's 264 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: okay to treat your nine to five like your nine 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: to five yea like let yourself clock in clock out 266 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: like And if your aspirations are to have your job, 267 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: you be your job, your stable income, where you get 268 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: your benefits, where you're paying for like your four o 269 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: one K or your retirement what have you. Like, that's cool. 270 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 2: I don't think that like everyone needs to step out 271 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: into entrepreneurship because it's really hard and really scary. There's 272 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: something to letting your creative projects, your little like side hustles, 273 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: be just that. And I think that whenever we feel 274 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: like super pressure to monetize, we can kind of lose 275 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: the spark the love that we have for something. I 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: don't think that's always the case, but I do think 277 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: that that can happen. And so I think that it's 278 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: fine to like do your your hobby, your art, your writing, 279 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: your paintings, whatever. This creative endeavor may be like after 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: your nine to five on the weekends, take time off 281 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: to work on it. But it also doesn't have to 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: be like your creative full time job either. I think 283 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: that like we should support both. I feel like in 284 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: this age of social media, it's like, you know, there's 285 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: like a lot of kind of pressure to make it 286 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: be your whole thing. 287 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Yes, but it can just be like that, you know, Yeah, 288 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to be a full time working artist 289 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: in order to be an artist. Yes, I think that 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: some of the most talented people likely have nine to fives, 291 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: and they work on their craft and they cultivate their 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: art when they're not at their jobs, and the art 293 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: is just that for them, it's their art and it's 294 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily what's paying their bills. But that's okay. I 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: also think that there's maybe I don't know if this 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: is like a global thing or if this is very American, 297 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: but I think there's this emphasis on like your job 298 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: being your passion and your calling. Yeah, it also does 299 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: not have to be that. No, it's very much okay 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: if your job is not your passion, you know. 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's so much emphasis in finding fulfillment 302 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: through your job. But that's also why I'm saying, like 303 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: let your job be your job, like if it's just 304 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: there to pay the bills, and like like everyone has 305 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: to do something, you know what I mean, Like we 306 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: live in a world or in a culture where like 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: everyone is doing their little their little thing, their contribution, 308 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: whether that be art or whether that be like through 309 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: their their job, and like every job is crucial. Literally 310 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: we need we need someone for everything. 311 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: For everything. I mean, imagine if there were no janitors, 312 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: everything would go to shit, literally, you know, I mean, 313 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: we would not be able to function. If we had 314 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: one day, just one day where people were not you know, 315 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: managing the trash, we would be like buried in filth 316 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: and garbage, like every single like like you're saying, I 317 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: agree completely. Everything that you do has some type of 318 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: a positive impact, even if you don't feel that it 319 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: is in the moment or at the time. So yeah, 320 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: I agree. Take all your vacation days also, and take 321 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: your sick days. If you don't use them, they just 322 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: get lost. You know, don't be such a team player 323 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: that you are shortchanging yourself of your your hard earned 324 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: time off. And artists need time off. Artists need to 325 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: explore and rest and think and plan and experiment. So 326 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: take your weekends for yourself, take your sick days, you know, 327 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: use them, they're yours to use. And then you use 328 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: that time how you see fit, maybe towards your creative endeavors. 329 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: This has been on ye lookus, don't go anywhere, Loco Motives. 330 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back with more of 331 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: our episode. And now for the interview portion of today's episode. 332 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: We are so excited to bring to you all an 333 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: interview that we did with Bianca Loriano, also known as 334 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: lap Neegra on Instagram and on social media. Bianca is 335 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: a sexologist, she's an educator, she's a curriculum writer, she 336 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: is a speaker, and we've been following her for years. 337 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: So we are thrilled to have Bianca on Look at 338 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: Thaar Radio today we talk about sexual health, how she 339 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: became a sexologist, and an on anthology that she has 340 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: helped put together which centers the voices of queer people 341 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: of color in the sexology space. 342 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: Hi am Bianca Loriana and I am a sexologist, sex 343 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 4: educator and curriculum writer. And my background is my parents 344 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: of Puerto Rican grew up on the East Coast and 345 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: now I'm in the Central Valley of California, which I 346 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: never imagined I would be at doing a lot of 347 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: work around training sexuality professionals. I've been in abortion Dola 348 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 4: for over ten years not it's thirteen years and supporting 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: people who are pregnant seeking information about all their options, 350 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: as well as doing some activism to include more people 351 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: of color, disabled people, querenchance people becoming sex educators. 352 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Amazing. 353 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing a little bit about yourself, 354 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: and we have been following your platform, your page called 355 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Latin Negra for many years. So can you tell us 356 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: about the platform that you created when you created it, 357 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: because it's been some time, and just tell us a 358 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: little bit about it. 359 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm gen X, so the Internet is 360 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: very new for me in certain ways. 361 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 5: I've had it as an adult. 362 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 4: So I'm at Latin Negra sexologist on Instagram and that started, 363 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: you know, a while ago, and really me just figuring 364 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: out what is this new, you know platform that's using 365 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 4: images and photos. So if people look at how I 366 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: started several years ago, it looks very different than what 367 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 4: it looks like today. It was a lot of like 368 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: me documenting my life and my everyday things, and what 369 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: I was doing is a sexuality professional. And now it's 370 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: a little bit more specific on the types of courses 371 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: that I'm offering, being transparent about like book publishing and 372 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: what it looks like when you get a check after 373 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: you published a book, how much does that check include? 374 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: How do you figure out what that's going to look like? 375 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: As well as just talking about a variety of different topics. 376 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: But I'm very much the person who people come to 377 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: because they want to get trained to do their work better. 378 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: So I'm not one of those people that's always producing 379 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: content for a general population to learn a little bit more. 380 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm training the people who do that work. So I'm 381 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: not surprised if people are like, I have no idea 382 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: who you might be in this moment, or oh, I 383 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: totally know what you're doing, because I train a lot 384 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: of people to do their work better. I know. I 385 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 4: was trained in nineteen ninety six, and it really frustrates 386 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: me that people are still being trained the same way 387 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: I was thirty years later. So things need to change. 388 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: And so I'm really focusing on supporting communities of color, 389 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: communities with global majority who want to do this work 390 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: and are all over the world. So my page kind 391 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 4: of reflects that kind of activism, reminding people how the 392 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: intersection of reproductive justice, disability justice, gender justice impacts all 393 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: of our lives, all of the time, in so many, 394 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: so many ways. 395 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you sexology, you're a sexologist. For our 396 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: listeners who maybe are not familiar with the field, can 397 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: you define it for us and how did you become 398 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: trained as a sexologist? 399 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's so interesting this is it's kind of 400 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: like the term Latino or LATINX or Latine It's a 401 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: term that so many people have a different definition of, 402 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 4: and for me, I like to encompass all of us. 403 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 4: So for sexologists, I define it as people who do 404 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: sexuality education, who do sexuality research, and they were also 405 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 4: guided by a knowledge of the historical creation of sexuality 406 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: as a field, whether it's in the United States or abroad. 407 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: So it welcomes in a variety of different forms of 408 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: knowledges and also knowing, which I think is really important 409 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: to create. And some people will say, oh, no, just 410 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: people who can offer a diagnosis or people who write, 411 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: you know, research and academic papers can call themselves sexologists. 412 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 5: I don't think that's true. So I definitely want. 413 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: To expand our understanding of that term. And I went 414 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 4: to my training is very very traditional, so I do 415 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: want to say that upfront. I went through the US 416 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: academic system. So I went to a state college, which 417 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: was University of Maryland College Park, and I then that 418 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: was nineteen eighty six that I went to UM and 419 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: then there was only one program that was attractive to 420 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: me on the East Coast around human sexuality. So when 421 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: I graduated in two thousand, there was really only one program, 422 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: and I applied to it that was at NYU, New 423 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: York University, and they had a master's degree in human 424 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: sexuality education. 425 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 5: So I signed up for. 426 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 4: That one, and they had early admission, and so I 427 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: knew before the end of the year that I was 428 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: selected to participate in the program. I get a full 429 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: scholarship that I didn't even apply for, and I learned 430 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: later why. 431 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: But I was there for. 432 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: Two years, and I like to tell people that it 433 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: was It wasn't a hard program, like intellectually hard, but 434 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: it was hard because I was the only one. I 435 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: was the only Latina in the cohort. Everybody was white 436 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: except for me and one other black woman, and all 437 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: of our training was focusing on whiteness and white people 438 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: and white contributions. And when I look back at my notebooks, 439 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: all my notes were the things that we're missing. How 440 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: would I bring this in to a conversation with you know, 441 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 4: central American immigrant family is how would I talk about 442 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: this topic with people who are translating for their parents, right? 443 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: Making things a little bit more accessible. So it's not 444 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: that I didn't learn anything. I learned what the white 445 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: people wanted us to learn, and I had to fill 446 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: in the gaps for supporting our communities. So that's a 447 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: little bit of my background there. I then went into 448 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: I was heavily recruited into a woman's studies PhD program 449 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: at the University of Maryland. So when Bush Junior was 450 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: re elected, I very much was like, there's gonna be 451 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: no funding for sex education, there's gonna be no funding 452 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: for young parents, HIV AIDS stuff. So I was like, 453 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 4: let me look into a PhD program. So I went 454 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: into a PhD program for three years, and like many 455 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: I think of your listeners, I had no idea what 456 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 4: a PhD program was supposed to be. But I knew 457 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 4: nobody would listen to a bushy hair, light skin Puerto 458 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 4: Rican who talks the way that I do about sex 459 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: and sexuality without having letters behind my name. So I 460 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: knew I needed the letters, but I had no idea 461 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: what that. 462 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 5: Meant after that. 463 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: And so in that phgd P, I was trained to 464 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: be a researcher, and I was trained within like an 465 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: intersectional framework, which is very popular in women in gender studies, 466 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: and I realized I don't want to be a researcher. 467 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: I'm better as an educator. And it wasn't a teaching 468 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: college so I left that program after three years. I 469 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: had full funding also for that, and then I just 470 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: started do the work that I really wanted to do, 471 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: writing curricula. I was working in the public school system. 472 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: I was also working in public charter schools because I 473 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: wanted to work specifically with black and brown children. And 474 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: as many people are noticing today, the first thing to 475 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: get cut when people are tightening up their budget is 476 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: sex in so when that started to happen, I started 477 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: to look into other ways to do the work that 478 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 4: I wanted to do. So I became trained as an 479 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: abortion doula, supporting people who were having in clinic abortions 480 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: at the time in New York City, and I started 481 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 4: building of variety of different classes that I wanted to teach, 482 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: and I've been teaching at a variety of different universities 483 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: in New York City. And I started to build something 484 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: on my own that I wanted to see and that 485 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: I knew was needed. And so through that and a 486 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 4: lot of activism, and one of the co foundresses of 487 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: an organization called the Women of Color Sexual Health Network, 488 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: which is a membership organization really to retain and support 489 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: us as we do this work and Because of that activism, 490 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: I was then awarded an honorary doctorate five years ago 491 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: from the California Institute of Integral Studies, which is wild 492 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: because when I hear when I think about people who 493 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: have received honorary doctors, it's like celebrities, right, It's never 494 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: like a community organizer or educator. It's usually like miss Elliott. 495 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly. 496 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: So you know, when I got that call, I was like, Okay, well, 497 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: how are my parents going to understand this? And so 498 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 4: I literally asked them, I said, what are the honorifics 499 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: that I can Can I say to my dad I 500 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 4: was awarded a PhD and now you can call me doctor? 501 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: And they were like yes, So that's what I've been 502 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: doing to make it clear to people. But also I'm like, 503 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: it's an honorary doctorate. I did the work, so I 504 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: got the degree. But also I was in a PhD program, 505 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: so I've been trained to do that work too, It's 506 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: just not in a more research based focus. So yeah, 507 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: it was a very traditional route. And today when people 508 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 4: ask me do I have to go back to school, 509 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: should I go to college? What routes should I do? 510 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: I usually first encourage them to use their public library 511 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: card and see what books are available and what films 512 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: you can watch. Because a lot of my graduate work 513 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: was me filling in the gaps of what I wasn't 514 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: getting from the classroom when I was supposed to be 515 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: get in this training. So yeah, I had to build 516 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: it the way that I wanted it to work for myself. 517 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: And today there's a lot of different programs focusing on 518 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: human sexuality. If people are interested in going of formal 519 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 4: about like I did, or something a little bit less formal, 520 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 4: they're all available. So I'm really excited to support people 521 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: and figuring out what is their best path to do 522 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: this work within our communities. 523 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: Amazing. I want to ask you because you are an educator, 524 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: you wrote curriculum and you also authored the People's Book 525 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: of Human Sexuality. So in that book, would you say 526 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: that that's where you were filling in the gaps of 527 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: what you weren't seeing And if yes, can you tell 528 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: us what were your findings? What did you write about? 529 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's so interesting because this book was something 530 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: that when I was invited to consider it, I wasn't 531 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: even thinking about writing a book. I got it reached 532 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: out to you by the editor at a major publishing house, Rutledge, 533 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: and she had said, Bianki, you've written so many chapters 534 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: for so many of our books, why don't you have 535 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: your own book? 536 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 5: And I was like, that's such a great question. 537 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: I don't know why not. And so from there she's like, well, 538 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: what kind of book would you want to create? I said, 539 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: you know, I grew up as a kid who was 540 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: exposed to like encyclopedias and like volumes and you know, 541 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: and I was like, I just imagine having like volumes 542 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: of books that have all of our brilliance as people 543 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: of the global majority, people who have often been silenced, 544 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: And I wanted to just be there in its fullness 545 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: and have this really thick archive that people can no 546 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: longer say, well, we didn't know anyone with this background 547 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: or this knowledge or who spoke this language, because we're 548 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: going to be there, clearly, prominently displayed. And so I 549 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: really pitched The People's Book of Human Sexuality as a volume. 550 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 4: So my hope is that this is volume one. And 551 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: the goal with that was really to reach out to 552 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: people who I knew had been doing this work for 553 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: decades and decades, and yet were the people that were 554 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: never being reached out to to contribute to a chapter 555 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 4: or to collaborate on some writing, and it was people 556 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: that had a lot of important things to say and 557 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: a lot of knowledge. 558 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: It often gets excluded or. 559 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: Questioned, and so it's not just filling in the gaps, 560 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 4: but it's really creating a whole other space that we've 561 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: always been in, but bringing it closer to the center 562 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: of what our worlds look like. And it really is 563 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 4: a gift to white people and non you know, people 564 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: who are Latino or who aren't black or Indigenous. It's 565 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: really a gift for those people because they get to 566 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: see what it's like and experience or work from our perspective. 567 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: So I know, it really disrupts the way that they 568 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: learn and understand. 569 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: And that's the goal. I really wanted to create something 570 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: where someone. 571 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: Who didn't want to go to college but wanted to 572 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: be a sex educator could just pick up a book 573 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: and find some lesson plans, find some ways to help 574 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: build their own curricula or workshop. And that's really what 575 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: we created with the fourteen contributors. 576 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: Is there something, a story, a lesson, something specific from 577 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: the book that you feel is really just adding something 578 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: to the space that just didn't exist before. That really 579 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: stands out to you. 580 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think one of the things that 581 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: I think is really wild right now, and it's one 582 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: of the reasons why I teach what I do is that, 583 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: believe it or not, there's no requirement that if you 584 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: want to become a sexuality educator that you need to 585 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: know about abortion. 586 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: And it's so wild to me that that is. 587 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: Not a core component, especially after the Dobbs decision several 588 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: years ago that led to abortion bands, and even today 589 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: you have to seek that out on your own. But 590 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: there's a ton of information in classes that talk about 591 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: sex and pregnancy, right so we're already seeing even within 592 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: spaces that consider themselves quote unquote sex positive, we're still 593 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 4: seeing this very much embrace of building families by pregnancy 594 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: versus hearing. 595 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 5: From community that are building their families because. 596 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: They're choosing an abortion and they're choosing how to create 597 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: their families. 598 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 5: And so I create a class. I created a class 599 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 5: on abortion. 600 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: For sex professionals who really don't know how to ask 601 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: answer questions like when can I have sex after my abortion? 602 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: Right? 603 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 4: Like, those are really common things that people ask. So 604 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: there's a chapter about abortion from a good friend who 605 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: is at a very high position at a big nonprofit 606 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: doing reproductive health care work, and she writes about her 607 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: conversation with her ten year old daughter at a time 608 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: when they were passing in a car. They were passing 609 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: by an anti abortion protest and her daughter was able 610 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: to read the signs, and so she was asking questions about, 611 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: like what does this mean? And it's just this really 612 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: beautiful narrative of how this mom is, like, this is 613 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: how we talk about it in our family, this is 614 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: how we value people's decisions about their bodies in this 615 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: way and our family, And it's really just this beautiful 616 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: narrative of how it's not hard to talk about abortion. 617 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: It's really about getting comfortable. And then there's a lesson 618 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: plan after each chapter. So part of the lesson plan 619 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: there is encouraging participants to look into where you find 620 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: the information. How are you using media literacy skills to 621 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: really determine false information or propaganda that's negative versus actual 622 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: useful medical information. So I think that really fills a 623 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: huge gap, which to me is still wild. 624 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 5: It still exists. 625 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, in the sexuality feel people have to go 626 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: into maternal child health or specifically into abortion spaces if 627 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: they want to get any training or informational abortion. So 628 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: I think that really fills in a huge gap that 629 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: still remains that I've been trying to fulfill for like 630 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: at least eight years now. 631 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: And so now I want to ask you about the 632 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: ante up training that that you facilitate. Can you tell 633 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: us more about that and what you hope this provides 634 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: for the community. 635 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, ANTIP is really a program for people 636 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: who do this work already and want to do it better, 637 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: who realize why am I still using these words to 638 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 4: talk about female assigned at birth body parts? And it's 639 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: all these old white men's names, right, Like people who 640 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: are really coming in with a critical lens and yet 641 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: have no place to really have these conversations or be 642 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 4: with other people who also want to grow and be 643 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: challenged and pushed to think in a different way. So 644 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: it's really a certificate where people leave with not just 645 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: more knowledge, but really building skills on how to incorporate 646 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: that into the work that they're already doing. So I'm 647 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: not trying to change people's minds or like reimagine their niche, 648 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 4: but the classes really fill in the gaps that still 649 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: exist in the US sexuality field. So if people are 650 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 4: looking for a training program that's not attached like a university, 651 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 4: those are usually a little bit more affordable. They're following 652 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 4: the exact same outline, and so the classes that I 653 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: teach are like, oh, that outline doesn't include this, right, So, 654 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: like my theory class is about intersectionality as the black 655 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: feminist gift it is and explaining to people this is 656 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: how it's used, this is what it means, this is 657 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: how people are misusing it. This is how you will 658 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: know the person using it doesn't know what they're doing, 659 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: because this is how they're always miss using it. My 660 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: class on abortion also fills in that gap. And then 661 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 4: I have chile professional development courses that I think are 662 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 4: really really important because I train a lot of therapists 663 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: and social workers who work with queer trans communities or 664 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: with sexuality problems, and a lot of their training encourages 665 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 4: them to see themselves as a clinical expert versus a 666 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: collaborator with their clients, especially when offering like a diagnosis 667 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: or plan for care, and so they never think of 668 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 4: themselves as people who could possibly cause harm. And I 669 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: noticed that that was a big gap in our field 670 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 4: where a lot of people were causing some harm and 671 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: didn't know how to apologize, didn't know how to take accountability. 672 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: And so I literally have two classes about accountability for 673 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: our communities, which is all about how do we prepare 674 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: for when we do mess up because we're all going to, 675 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 4: especially for focusing on justice work. We're going to mess 676 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: up because we have to. That's how we learn better 677 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: and learn how to move together. And then also having 678 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 4: an intentional apology workshop that really goes into what types 679 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 4: of apologies are useful and what kinds are not, and 680 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: how can we make sure that we apologize with the 681 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: intention of repair. 682 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 5: Versus just to get it out of the way and 683 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 5: keep moving. 684 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: So really encouraging people to think through how do you 685 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: need to offer an apology to someone that maybe you 686 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: have an offer jet and what might that look like 687 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: and how can we build that together. So it's definitely 688 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: a workshop, but nobody's talking about failure in our field 689 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: unless they're trying to say, see this person as horrible. 690 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: There's such a failure, and I just think that that's 691 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: not a it's not useful. We all feel in so 692 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: many ways, and I want us to get really comfortable 693 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: talking about it. 694 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 5: So those are just a handful of some of the 695 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 5: classes that I teach. 696 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: A lot of people who are interested in the program 697 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 4: come from a variety of different fields of work. So yes, 698 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 4: some therapists, but I also have some sex workers. I 699 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 4: also have people who are writers. I have other formal 700 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 4: educators like myself. I have yoga teachers. You know, there's 701 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 4: a range of people who are attracted to the content 702 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 4: that I'm creating because they've never had a class like 703 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 4: that before. All my classes are also live. I think 704 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: that's a really important thing to bring in. And it's 705 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: weird for me to say that because I grew up 706 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: having a go to class in person, but now a 707 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 4: lot of classes are like webinar style where you can 708 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: buy the video and just watch it and then you're 709 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: you're done. I just don't think that that's a useful 710 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: way to learn all the time. So all my classes 711 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: are live. They're not record arted intentionally because I want 712 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 4: people to be able to ask their questions. So yeah, 713 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 4: so that's a few ways that our program stands out. 714 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: We really are trying to shift the way that people 715 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 4: are learning and the way that we are together as 716 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: we do. 717 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 5: This work. 718 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: Fabulous. If there are listeners out there who are interested 719 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: in learning more about, for example, the Women of Color 720 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: Sexual Health Network or the Latin Negras project, they want 721 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: to get involved, they want to learn more. How can they? 722 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm intentionally accessible online, so people can literally 723 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: type my name or any of those words that you 724 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 4: put together and literally find us very easily. I have 725 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 4: an open Instagram account. You can find me on Facebook 726 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 4: as well. I have a professional account there, and then 727 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 4: I have my own personal websites, and each of those 728 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: projects also have their own websites as well. The Women 729 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: of Color sexualf Network also has like a closed Facebook 730 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 4: group just for people of color who are interested in joining, 731 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: and they have like a public facing group on Facebook too, 732 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 4: and a website. So we're easily findable, easily able to 733 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: be identified, and so encourage people to, you know, go 734 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: on the internet find us. 735 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: Thank you Bianca for joining us today, and thank you 736 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 2: to all of you for listening to look at Radio. 737 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: We'll catch you next time. 738 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: Citos lok A Radio is executive produced by Viosa Fem 739 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: and Mala Munios. 740 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: Stephanie Franco is our producer. 741 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: Story editing by me diosa. 742 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: Creative direction by me Mala. 743 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 2: Look at Radio is a part of iHeartRadio's Michael Dura 744 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: podcast network. 745 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: You can listen to look at Radio on the iHeartRadio 746 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 747 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: Leave us a review and share with your Prima or 748 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: share with your homegirl. 749 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: And thank you to our local motives, to our listeners 750 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: for tuning in each and every week. 751 00:39:52,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: Besitos the 752 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: Te