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Speaker 1: welcome to season four oh three, episode three of Dear

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Speaker 1: Daily Zaigeist. It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a

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Speaker 1: And it is Wednesday, August twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: A happy anniversary to my parents. Oh. First of all,

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Speaker 1: O'Brien aka Milky Thighs. They're so caked up you won't

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Speaker 1: in reference to my cad up thick milky thighs. Thrilled

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Speaker 2: Yeah, untold millions. Part of my ignorance. But I did

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Speaker 2: Steve Bannon has the palpatine.

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Speaker 3: I think using flash on your phone to take pictures

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Speaker 6: Yeah, here you go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, forcing his then nine year old daughter to open

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Speaker 2: whole life is stam steampunk and then they interview the

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Speaker 2: kid and the kid is like, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It fucking sucks. It not a.

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Speaker 2: Fan umbrella made of gears for no reason.

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Speaker 1: All right, fuck cooking, let's uh, let's take a quick

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Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back and

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Speaker 1: the one you know there, there hasn't been a lot

446
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Speaker 1: of people willing to come out and like buck the

447
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: big mainstream market based economy, corporate, mainstream media, just the

448
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Speaker 1: way things operate. Zoramm Danni is like one person who

449
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Speaker 1: had some public success, like got in front of a

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Speaker 1: lot of people with these ideas that are very different

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Speaker 1: than the ideas that are being presented by every other politician.

452
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: Those ideas resonated. He had unexpected astounding success. And now

453
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: for the mainstream media to be like, whoa, what the

454
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: fuck just happened? And because they're not able to even

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Speaker 1: like bring in the ideas of socialism that were common

456
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Speaker 1: like in the early twentieth century, they have to like

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Speaker 1: come up with weird conspiracy theories for why it was popular.

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Speaker 1: I do just want to in terms of the state

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Speaker 1: of the race, Zuramumdani is doing like fun little things

460
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Speaker 1: like he did a citywide scavenger hunt, which was enjoyed

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Speaker 1: by thousands of people, who you know, if you succeeded

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Speaker 1: the scavenger hunt a cup of chry tea at the

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Speaker 1: finish line. Eric Adams responded to that by saying that

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Speaker 1: mom Donnie is trying to turn our city into the

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Speaker 1: Squid Games. You know, the show where happy families compete

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Speaker 1: for a tea on a sunny afternoon. Yeah yeah, he said,

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Speaker 1: Ask the people worried about making rent if they thought

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Speaker 1: it was worth it, Mom Donnie is trying to turn

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Speaker 1: our city into the Squid Games. Guy fucking rules Cuomo

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Speaker 1: similarly tried to criticize him for like, just like it

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's like a student council you know, running

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Speaker 1: for student council president, and just like Madge that the

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Speaker 1: fun kid is like beating him. He was like, defund

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Speaker 1: the police, but great scavenger hunts. No class, free pizza

475
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Speaker 1: for all singers was what he wrote on social media,

476
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Speaker 1: being like yeah right, this guy's not serious. And then

477
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Speaker 1: also there was I don't I don't even understand why

478
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: this happened, but Zora, Mom Donnie like was asked to

479
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Speaker 1: bench press his own weight and he did that for

480
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Speaker 1: some reason, and he failed to do it, and they

481
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: were all over that. They just anything to like make

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Speaker 1: it about anything else, you know, Cuomo and Adams are

483
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Speaker 1: like more like Mom scrawny. Literally, that's what they said.

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Speaker 1: But so getting back to trying to explain, like, how's

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Speaker 1: this guy popular? He does fun stuff, but he can't

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Speaker 1: even lift, like bench press his own weight.

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Speaker 3: What is this these guys can like, what are they

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Speaker 3: talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Probably the most baffling anti Mom Donnie take is

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Speaker 1: from The Wall Street Journal, which published an op ed

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Speaker 1: blaming his popularity on Jurassic Park and Superman specifically. The

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Speaker 1: op ed argued that there's absolutely no explanation for why

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers wouldn't race a candidate who's running on a

494
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Speaker 1: platform of affordable housing, free childcare, expanding healthcare, and generally

495
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: standing up to corporations who are fucking everybody over all

496
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Speaker 1: the time, unless, of course, the reason for that success

497
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Speaker 1: is because it's socialism is glorified in movies. They also say.

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Speaker 1: They quote Ryan Reynolds's character in the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four movie Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle.

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Speaker 2: He that character, he is my great spiritual teacher that

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Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds Harol Kumar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they but so they say, it seems like you're

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Speaker 1: going to get like some sort of philosophical idea from this,

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00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: and instead they just quote him to say, but why.

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Speaker 1: As Ryan Reynolds character in the two thousand and four

506
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Speaker 1: Harold and Kumar go to White Castle asks but why,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people say, but why you saying they

508
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: do invoke that character to say but why, and then

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Speaker 1: the next question sentence. One answer is that social is

510
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Speaker 1: glorified in movies. Multimillion dollar movies made by massive corporations,

511
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Speaker 1: always glorifying socialism. The movies that they point to are

512
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Speaker 1: Jurassic World Rebirth, which the characters want to keep a

513
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Speaker 1: miracle drug out of the hands of a pharma bro billionaire.

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Speaker 1: I just want to read how they described this guy

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: before explaining further who this character is. Look no further

516
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Speaker 1: than this summer's Jurassic World Rebirth. Pharmaceutical executive Martin Kreb's

517
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Speaker 1: ruper Frent risks his life and capital to develop a

518
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Speaker 1: heart drug, Paleodiaxon, that will extend human life by twenty years,

519
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Speaker 1: and he's the bad guy. That character also pulls a

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Speaker 1: fucking gun on children in the Okay, he's the bad

521
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: guy just because he fucking pulled a gun on a

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Speaker 1: child in movie called Getting Things Done.

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Speaker 2: It also sounds like they kind of lost the plot

524
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Speaker 2: he had been inventing a medicine to turn people into dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you. So this is the This is

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Speaker 1: the thing that I love when they did this in

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Speaker 1: Avatar to Avatar too, where like they're just like, oh yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: and like this the aliens have the cured to death

529
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Speaker 1: like hidden inside them, so everybody got killed the aliens.

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Speaker 1: But also like Jurassic Park movies, like the villain is

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Speaker 1: always capitalism, Like the first Jurassic Park movie, it's like

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Speaker 1: the the issue is that the John Hammond is like

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Speaker 1: trying to open the park too quickly without like testing

534
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Speaker 1: everything because he's like greedy and wanting to like make money.

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Speaker 3: And the lawyer is like, oh, who cares about the

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Speaker 3: park safety. We'll make millions off this place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that guy gets eaten on a toilet.

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Speaker 1: Not fair.

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Speaker 3: So this these theories are suggesting that the movies basically

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Speaker 3: not that they necessarily invented socialism, but they're promoting this

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Speaker 3: idea of they're promoting before, like anyone else had the

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: idea to support socialism. And then because these the audiences

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Speaker 3: are watching these movies now, they are being brainwashed into thinking.

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Speaker 1: It's not the tightest thesis, really bad the evidence. They're

545
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: really just going all over the place. They're like a

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Speaker 1: palaeontologists worried about high drug prices, says, sciences for all

547
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: of us, not some of us. Wait, where have I

548
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: heard that? Oh yeah, here's socialist Bernie Sanders last year.

549
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: We need an economy that works for all of us,

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Speaker 1: not just the billionaire class. A shocking thing to say.

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Speaker 1: They also make fun of Superman, in which the villain

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Speaker 1: is a rich guy who looks like Jeff Bezos. Just

553
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: worth noting that villain was created in nineteen forty and

554
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: has looked like Jeff Bezos the whole time. Hmmm, and

555
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: has been a rich guy the whole time. Watch or

556
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: don't watch this summer Superman retread, which features Lex Luthor

557
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: again as a corrompti billionaire Hollywood knows no other kind,

558
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: threatening truth, justice and the American way, and he looks

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Speaker 1: like Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos became a billionaire and shaved

560
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Speaker 1: his head like Lex Luthor that's not our phone. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love the point of like who's defending the billionaires

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Speaker 2: with integrity? What about them?

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Speaker 1: Also, Hollywood has always had like Hollywood is just full

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Speaker 1: of billionaire like pro billionaire propaganda, Like Tony Stark and

565
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: fucking Bruce Wayne are the two most like iconic characters

566
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Speaker 1: of like the decade from like the entire Obama presidency

567
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: is like defined by these two guys who are just

568
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Speaker 1: like what if we just like let the billionaires save

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Speaker 1: that they're obviously really smart and like Bruce Wayne, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he fucking inherited his money, but he's

571
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Speaker 1: also fucking sick. Like think about like how much karate

572
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: you can study if you don't have to like make money,

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00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, right, Just like.

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Speaker 3: Look at him fighting bad guys with all of his

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Speaker 3: gadgets that he can afford, and it's like if he

576
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Speaker 3: just redistributed his well, any of that, there wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: any bad guys to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Yeaeah. He is a billionaire who spends his money physically

579
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Speaker 1: attacking the poor and desperate Like that's what he does,

580
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Speaker 1: one at a time, just waiting for them to come

581
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Speaker 1: for the pie on his fucking porch, and then just

582
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Speaker 1: beat the shit out of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can just like stand over a pile

584
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Speaker 5: of pears like say something cool and then disappeared to

585
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Speaker 5: the ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a creepy Yeah, there's I mean we talked

587
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Speaker 1: about this yesterday. That like how because she goes deep

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Speaker 1: into history, She's like, yeah, Barbara Streisand's character in the

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Speaker 1: Way We Were a movie that like I don't know

590
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Speaker 1: is that a classic Hollywood movie was an avowed Marxist

591
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: and The Godfather was a metaphor for America and capitalism.

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Speaker 1: So like she's saying, like this has always been the

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Speaker 1: problem that Hollywood has like been sneaking in all this

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00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: like pro socialism, anti capitalism propaganda. It's like couldn't be

595
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: more the direct opposite, Like you have to go to

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00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: Barbara Streisand's character and the Way We Were to find

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: like an avowed Marxist, whereas like everyone else is just

598
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: like openly an avowed capitalist, for whom everything always works

599
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: out in the end, like every every protagonist, like because

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Speaker 1: you know, you need Hollywood movies to work out for

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00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: the people like they are people who are exercising their

602
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: like individualism to solve problems, like just completely in line

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Speaker 1: with the tenets of capitalism, that that is the entire

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Speaker 1: history of Hollywood. That the amount of work they're having

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00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: to do to claim this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing with like copaganda, where every so

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Speaker 3: often there will be a movie that comes out, like

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Speaker 3: a mainstream movie that's critical of the police, but by

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00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: and large, all like so many movies are look at

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Speaker 3: this hero cop doing hero things and saving the day,

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Speaker 3: and he's the good guy and the.

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00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: Bad guy is his supervisor, who's like, stop doing things

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Speaker 1: that are against the law. They're like, look at this

614
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: fucking stiff. Yeah, get off my back, man, I'm a rebel,

615
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm a renegade.

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Speaker 5: Which is so beautifully illustrated a spoiler alert by the

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Speaker 5: end of Get Out, where like because then you realize, oh,

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Speaker 5: every movie, all so many movies end with oh, thank god,

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Speaker 5: the cops.

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Speaker 2: Are here, and you know what I mean. And then

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Speaker 2: it's oh Jesus, the cops are here.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, and like.

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Speaker 2: And those what it is is those are people, well

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Speaker 2: you know, Jordan Peel, those people are true artists who

625
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: are able to observe the human condition and see where

626
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: predatory capitalism and you know, authoritarian policing is bad for

627
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: people like, sorry, if you can't understand that writer for

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal who obviously wrote Harold and Kumar,

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00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: why are you quoting that piece of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to quote Ryan Reynolds and Harold and Kumar three?

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Speaker 1: But why what? What the fuck?

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: No, that's a famous quote and a famous character that

633
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Speaker 3: we all remember.

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Speaker 1: And why the famous Yeah, maybe there's like an entire

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Speaker 1: different just uh, you know, pantheon of movie quotes among

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Speaker 1: conservatives like ah, yes, but why And they're like Reynolds,

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Speaker 1: good one, love it.

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00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: It's also they've also been like like Jordan Peterson and

639
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: those people, they're very much in opposition to the reality

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: that stories carry morality with them, you know, in general.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting they finally caught up to this idea

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00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: of like, wait, hold on a second, maybe this is

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: a metal well maybe this does speak to capitalism. Oh no, yeah,

644
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, that's often how artworks dork.

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00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: Like. They made me really like want to see some

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: movies by like shitting on them in this article. They're

647
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Speaker 1: like The Dreadful mountain Head has billionaires writing their net

648
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: worth on their chest like that. That movie actually like

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: has I think a very good depiction of like what

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00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: these billionaires are like. Like the Steve Carell character is

651
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: just the most insufferable piece of shit that I think

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00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: is like a great example of what all these people

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Speaker 1: are like. Twenty eight years later, the latest sequel to

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Speaker 1: twenty eight days Later involves the aftermath of the rage

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Speaker 1: viruses escape from bioweapons bioweapons lab. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how that. They don't even bothered connecting that to the

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Speaker 1: thesis they're just like. Twenty days later involves the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of a rage virus escape from That doesn't connect in

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Speaker 1: any way, right, what the fuck is this article? You've

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Speaker 1: been talking about? The materialists betray anyone successful is shallow

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Speaker 1: as a puddle. Antis and Eddington are the bad guys.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, those are all movies that I guess could

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Speaker 1: be interesting to watch. So she also says that movies

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Speaker 1: about the free market depict the markets as corrupt and

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs as duficses, and two of the examples she picks,

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Speaker 1: the Wolf of Wall Street and The Social Network, are

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Speaker 1: true stories about corrupt stufses. So like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you want us to do here?

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Speaker 3: What I cannot with this pretty good movies though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a friend who saw Wolf of wall

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Speaker 2: Street and became a stockbroker. Wow, was like, oh dang,

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Speaker 2: ladies like that and cars like that. So it goes

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Speaker 2: to show like how how profoundly the message gets lost,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially that's whatever, this is a deeper or

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Speaker 2: a different issue. But that's kind of the problem with

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Speaker 2: satire sometimes is that like it still is you know,

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Speaker 2: you still get high watching this exploitation in a way,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Wolf of Wall Street was one of

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Speaker 1: the best things to happen to Crack ever, because it's

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Speaker 1: like it shows them smoking crack and having a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, which is the first time it was depicted

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Speaker 1: as that in the history of like mainstream cinema. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the Ludes the Louds was pretty funny. Man.

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Speaker 3: That movie does make me wish, like lament that ludes

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Speaker 3: don't really exist anymore, because I'm like, ah, I feel

687
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Speaker 3: like they would really help me sleep.

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Speaker 2: I think i'd have fun with the load, help you sleep,

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Speaker 2: and record albums like Rumors by Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think of art, you know, I know you

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Speaker 1: have to balance them out with the cocaine to get

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Speaker 1: ups up. To record rumors. But yeah, the yeah. The

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Speaker 1: wright has argued that they eat the rich. Genre has

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Speaker 1: gotten much worse in recent years thanks to movies like Parasite,

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Speaker 1: Knives Out, and The Menu. So they do have two

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Speaker 1: examples that they think are like this is what movies

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Speaker 1: should be. Ghostbusters is one of them. Yes, I'm calling Ghostbusters,

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Speaker 1: she says, which is I think that's right. I think

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Speaker 1: Ghostbusters is a profoundly conservative movie. Like there's so many

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Speaker 1: like the They the Enemy is the epa.

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Speaker 2: APA, Yeah, yes, super bizarre.

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Speaker 5: Also, you watch it when you're older and you're like, man,

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Speaker 5: if you're like Bill Murray's funny, and then later you're like,

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Speaker 5: oh no, he's an He's an awful creep.

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Speaker 3: Such an asshole, disgustin creep.

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Speaker 1: But then the other example that uses the Founder, which

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Speaker 1: have you seen the movie The Founder? Yeah? Completely, is

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Speaker 1: that the the.

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Speaker 6: Michael Keaton Yeah, oh McDonald ross. Yeah, he steals McDonald's

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Speaker 6: from the McDonald's from the Sweet brothers who like first

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Speaker 6: made it. And she like, I don't know if they

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Speaker 6: just like didn't watch to the end of it. Add

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Speaker 6: to the Founder and Ray Kroc is what she says,

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Speaker 6: which is all about how McDonald's was like a nice

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Speaker 6: restaurant and then this like psycho comes along and kicks

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Speaker 6: the founders out, and like it's not exactly like a

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Speaker 6: subtle critique, but she's somehow like this is one that

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Speaker 6: shows how cool it is.

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Speaker 2: It's also like he gets he gets rich, and then

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Speaker 2: and then divorces his long suffering wife too, and then

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Speaker 2: Mary's that, you know what I mean. So apparently this

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Speaker 2: lady was like, oh, nice upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Swish this guy fucking and he did it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Wow? Wait is this the same article where the writer

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Speaker 3: is like.

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Speaker 1: Movies like movies love socialism. Yeah, so they're saying, like

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Speaker 1: all movies are obsessed with socialism. The Godfather is too critical,

728
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Speaker 1: it makes capitalism look too bad, and therefore it's socialist.

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Speaker 1: The only two good movies are Ghostbusters and the Founder.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I thought they were saying that, like Parasite

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Speaker 3: and Knives Out is how movies should be, because those.

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Speaker 1: Are always very stark. You think Parasite is very bad.

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Speaker 1: But they also somehow did like they're so desperate. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, they must not have seen Iron Man or

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Speaker 1: bad Man because they're so desperate to like come up

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Speaker 1: with a movie that's about how capitalism is good, that

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Speaker 1: they that they resort to the founder, which is like

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Speaker 1: definitely a cautionary tale, right, definitely, just like this guy's

739
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Speaker 1: too ambitious and he like fucking loses his mind and

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Speaker 1: is a piece of shit.

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Speaker 2: And also like at any point you're like, wait, hold

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Speaker 2: on now, if I'm associating with those in power and

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Speaker 2: I'm disliking art, yeah, a little bit put me on

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Speaker 2: the side of fascism. Just I just historically I think

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Speaker 2: that's generally the case. Yeah, movie speaks you know what

746
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Speaker 2: I mean, speak to like the gentle human heart and

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Speaker 2: the challenges around being a person, especially in capitalism.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's called propaganda more pro person anti

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Speaker 1: corporate propaganda. Yeah, well propaganda sick is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like to Kill a Mockingbird and trash like that.

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Speaker 1: Like truly, that's like that. That's where it's like Pargrisite,

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Speaker 1: which was just ranked the number one movie in the

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Speaker 1: twenty first century, so critical and it's like, oh, poor people,

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Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. Anyways, this is it is kind

755
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Speaker 1: of fun to you know, the right is always like

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Speaker 1: you guys have Trump derangement syndrome, Like this is they

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Speaker 1: they and the mainstream Democratic Party all have like Zor

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Speaker 1: and Mamdani derangement syndrome, and they're just like can't deal

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Speaker 1: and are coming up with the wildest fucking explanations for

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Speaker 1: how these very popular policies that everybody's been like these

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Speaker 1: would be very popular policies if anybody did them, how

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Speaker 1: they could possibly be popular? And this is where they're at.

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Speaker 3: Because Drastic World Rebirth it must be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, every right, the movie that's influencing

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Speaker 2: all of us. I am in support, of course, though,

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Speaker 2: of politicians having having to prove their physical strength through

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Speaker 2: like bench presses in the Senate and stuff, unless you

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Speaker 2: are strong, in which case you have to do a

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Speaker 2: crossword puzzle.

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Speaker 1: Your opponent gets to decide which one.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, because otherwise we're just gonna add it with

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Speaker 2: Terry Cruise for mediocracy with them, which is what they want,

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Speaker 2: a bustle like a bunch of muscle man.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk about AI kittens. We'll be right back,

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Speaker 1: and we're back. And you know, as creators of content

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Speaker 1: online content, sometimes it's good for us to just take

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Speaker 1: a step back and look at what the competition is

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Speaker 1: doing out there. You know what, what are we competing with?

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Speaker 1: And it's viral kittens. That's that's what we're losing too

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Speaker 1: right now. People these videos. Have you seen these videos?

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Speaker 1: They're like kind of slide shows. Usually it's a series

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Speaker 1: of images of very fat kittens or cats, sometimes falling

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Speaker 1: out of the plane or a boat, or landing on

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Speaker 1: a remote island, or just like getting bullied getting divorced.

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Speaker 1: One that I watched, the kitten was getting an ass

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Speaker 1: on his test, getting yelled at by his cat dad

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Speaker 1: no way, but then studying getting an a getting divorced

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Speaker 1: Kramer versus Kramer style like dramas. Yeah, so it's this

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Speaker 1: weird thing that they So the way these videos are

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Speaker 1: made is essentially just people putting prompts into AI NonStop.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell if they're like, Okay, give me like

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Speaker 1: twenty different scenarios of these like kidden videos, or if

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Speaker 1: like each one they're like give me a kitten failing

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Speaker 1: at test, or you know, like I think it's more

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Speaker 1: like give me thirty different of like things happen to

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Speaker 1: a cat that is cute and chubby and orange and

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Speaker 1: then the AI takes over, and the thing that they've discovered,

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Speaker 1: apparently is the cheat code is just making like really

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Speaker 1: sad things happen to the kittens, and like then the

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Speaker 1: kittens just like sobbing and looking really sad. It is

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Speaker 1: like pretty affecting. I will say, like the you don't

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Speaker 1: want to see bad things happen to these kittens because

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Speaker 1: they're pretty cute.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, it appeals to our emotional response, something that

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Speaker 3: AI will never understand. But yeah, it but just through

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Speaker 3: sheer guess and check right exactly. Yeah, they don't know

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Speaker 3: why these things would be appealing to human emotions, but no, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's uh, that is horrible, especially because it's like probably

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Speaker 3: drying up a well every time you search for like

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Speaker 3: a cat getting divorced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, literally like causing actual children to sob in

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Speaker 1: some place. And so I just want to read this

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Speaker 1: quote from one of the creators. Despite the inconsistencies and

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Speaker 1: occasional hallucinations of the AI generators, and you do like

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Speaker 1: the cats like don't look the same from image damage.

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Speaker 1: They will be like slightly different, but you can like

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Speaker 1: tell that they're supposed to be the same thing, he says.

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Speaker 1: The cat stories remain compelling because of how quote devastating

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Speaker 1: they are. I just love that I can invest in

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Speaker 1: these characters while everything else is so goofy. It seems

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Speaker 1: like it would not be emotional the way you can

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Speaker 1: create anything that looks like this, but it's successful. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the contrast is great. A good cat one of the

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Speaker 1: creators A good cat video is one is one with

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Speaker 1: a tragic ending, a devastating one. The reason is firstly

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to amuse myself to put the cats

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Speaker 1: in crazy situations. I also saw that sad videos generate

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Speaker 1: more engagement because they elicit the compassion of viewers, which

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Speaker 1: spoken like a true robot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I have so many thoughts about this one,

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Speaker 3: speaking as a fan of cat videos real cats, obviously,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see them distraught. I want to

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Speaker 3: see them being cute and having a nice little kit

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Speaker 3: in time, and just the idea that they have to

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Speaker 3: like artificially generate sad imagery to compel people and appeal

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Speaker 3: to their emotions, like just look at what's happening in

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Speaker 3: the world exactly and raw, and like, you know, harness

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Speaker 3: compassion from that and utilize it to affect change for

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Speaker 3: the good, like what.

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Speaker 1: It's the that is by design. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: this severe, this surreal version of reality where we're all

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Speaker 1: like cordoned off from one another so that we don't

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Speaker 1: feel genuine human contact with other people and genuine human

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Speaker 1: emotions for other people because thosetions like that human contact

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Speaker 1: is not monetizable, you know, like feeling feeling bad for

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Speaker 1: people who are being victimized by capitalism is actually the

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Speaker 1: opposite of like profitable, right, so they want they want

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Speaker 1: to keep us away from that, and instead they like

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Speaker 1: cordin us off in these little like media delivery cells

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Speaker 1: where we're just these emotions that we should be feeling

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Speaker 1: that are like natural to feel, like, you know, sadness

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Speaker 1: and sympathy and empathy like those are being like artificially

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Speaker 1: expressed from us, like an industrial milker that's like mimicking

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Speaker 1: the mouth of a calf. You know. They're just like

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Speaker 1: extracting the emotions from us artificially, and we're often our

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Speaker 1: like little hyperbaric emotion chambers just being fed ai slop

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Speaker 1: that like makes us feel sad while not feeling sad

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Speaker 1: about the thing we should feel sad about are other

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Speaker 1: people and the fact that we're like wasting our lives

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Speaker 1: ignoring each other.

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Speaker 3: Right if I mean, like if if enough people could

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Speaker 3: unite under caring about Israel starving Gaza, for example, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, but now we have to consume AI cats

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Speaker 3: question cats.

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Speaker 2: I also like, you know, look, I live for a

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Speaker 2: video where a duck becomes friends with a donkey. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I will spend you know, most of my door watching

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. But it's also it's because that's not

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Speaker 2: supposed to happen. Or if it's AI, then it's clear,

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Speaker 2: it's clearly generated. It's not going to make me feel

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Speaker 2: that those emotions. But I wonder if the same way that,

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Speaker 2: like in the Superman movie, there's AI that I find,

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Speaker 2: like the dog is pretty computer generated, which is unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: Just like the dog, I like a dog actor, I

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Speaker 2: don't need it, like to see his fake mouth like upturned,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I wonder if for younger

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Speaker 2: people who.

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Speaker 1: Give like a like a knowing smile at one point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's kind of a lot of that, like he's

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Speaker 5: you know, where he's like, oh you can't believe something,

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Speaker 5: you know, his eyes get big or whatever. Yeah, So

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Speaker 5: maybe that's why people are just more used, more used

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Speaker 5: to AI and it feels more natural because to me,

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Speaker 5: it always feels like it's still I know where it's

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Speaker 5: gonna keep getting better and better, but not yet for me,

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Speaker 5: still looks.

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Speaker 3: That un Kenny Valley is still yeah, very much there.

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Speaker 3: But I do I I wonder if there's something to

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Speaker 3: that that like a whole generation of people who grew

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Speaker 3: up on CGI in media and then they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's just yeah, I can be emotionally affected by that totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then they see AI generated imagery and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that just looks like the cartoons and I want or whatever,

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Speaker 3: like the superhero movies that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know they're

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Speaker 1: like that. I get those like profound, like deep kind

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Speaker 1: I'm traveling and I see like a whole family where

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Speaker 1: like the parents are all on their phones and the

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Speaker 1: kids are like on there, everybody's like ignoring each other

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Speaker 1: just on their phones. Like I don't it's just and

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Speaker 1: then when I noticed my family doing it, I have

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Speaker 1: to like go watch my cat videos or else I

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Speaker 1: get really sad because that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get on your phone and alongside your other your

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Speaker 3: other family members on their phones.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a realization, Jack, No, don't don't do that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but have a realization about how sad it is that.

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Speaker 1: Let me see what this cat's name is. I think

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Speaker 1: they call it like Chubby's or something, Chubbers. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: unstoppable Rise of Chubby. Why TikTok's AI generated cat could

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Speaker 1: be the future of the Internet.

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Speaker 3: So I miss this part of the story. Are these

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Speaker 3: like these are like viral? These are very popular?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so they they ran There was a h

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Speaker 1: the Shrimp Jesus study from early twenty twenty four. Do

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Speaker 1: you know about the shrimp Jesus were like, no, it's

920
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Speaker 1: just they looked into their like there's suddenly this flood

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Speaker 1: of AI slop all over the Internet. Where's it coming from?

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Speaker 1: And they found it was like being generated by like

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Speaker 1: these AI like people who are using AI to just

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Speaker 1: be like, give me a hundred different like image series

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Speaker 1: of like and one of them was Jesus's head on

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Speaker 1: the body of a shrimp and like a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like crabs like worshiping him. And but yes, one of

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Speaker 1: the ten most viewed posts in one of the quarters

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Speaker 1: that they were looking at, Like Q two of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three on Facebook was an unlabeled AI generated image

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Speaker 1: from a page that used to be like a cooking page,

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Speaker 1: like somebody who liked to cook and had a lot

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Speaker 1: of followers.

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Speaker 3: Not kidding, I like it when other people like.

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Speaker 1: But they then transitioned it into just showing AI generated

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Speaker 1: images of kitchens, you know, because that's how you you

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Speaker 1: can just it's this weird thing where it's just people

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Speaker 1: out there just like generating like an unending stream of

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Speaker 1: these posts onto like various channels that used to have

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Speaker 1: actual people behind them and are now So it's like

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Speaker 1: the AI is like on one side of it generating

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Speaker 1: images that are like designed to try to fool the

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Speaker 1: AI algorithms on the other side into like sending them

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Speaker 1: out to a bunch of people. And then yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you're just like again fully isolated from any human contact,

946
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Speaker 1: just being like on one end of this massive like

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Speaker 1: transactional thing that is burning a bunch of forests, but

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Speaker 1: burning a bunch of forests like far away from where

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Speaker 1: we are.

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Speaker 2: Right and also making all of southern Georgia smell like

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Speaker 2: gas fumes, right, that's that's trade off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Kaitlin Doranta, is such a pleasure having you

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Speaker 1: on the daily Zeikeist as always. Uh, where can people

954
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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram if you must. At

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Durante. What I would like to plug is the

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Speaker 3: Bechdel Cast Midwest Tour. Uh, we're covering the Star Wars prequels.

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Speaker 3: As we've discussed, We're going to Indianapolis. Our show there

959
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Speaker 3: is August thirtieth, so coming up Chicago August thirty first, Madison,

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin September fourth, and Minneapolis September seventh. So Zeke Gang

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Speaker 3: come through. Please, we would love to see you. We

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Speaker 3: would love to have you. You can grab tickets at

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Speaker 3: link Tree, slash Bachtel car Past and.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great. And you're gonna be going over every

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Speaker 1: prequel in every show.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, so each show will be all three prequels. And

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Speaker 3: why did we do that to ourselves? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but it's too late now.

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00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: And you to see the Kaitlin Durante cut down of

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Speaker 1: the prequels, much like the toe for Grades one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well how long was his?

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Speaker 1: His is like eighty something minutes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I did well. I mean, mine's a recap,

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Speaker 3: so it's I'm really leaving some stuff out. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I recapped in video format each of the three movies.

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Speaker 3: Each video recap is like five minutes or less. So

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Speaker 3: I really really did some cutting.

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Speaker 1: That sounds really fun. I can't wait to watch.

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Speaker 3: So there will be those videos. There's all kinds of

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Speaker 3: other fun segments during the show. There's gonna be a

981
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Speaker 3: classic Bechdel Cast discourse, you know, lots of lots of

982
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Speaker 3: good stuff. And then I also just want to shout

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Speaker 3: out Slash promote Slash, encourage people to donate to the

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Speaker 3: Global Samood Flotilla. I don't know if I said that right,

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Speaker 3: but it's the flotilla that is leaving from Spain and

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Speaker 3: Tonisia I think, and then in the coming days and

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Speaker 3: sailing to Gaza to provide aid and try to stop

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Speaker 3: the siege.

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Speaker 1: So Global.

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Speaker 3: Yes dot org is where you can learn more about

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Speaker 3: it and donate. So just want to shout that out.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, nice. Is there a work of media that

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? No, okay, more, where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Is there a work of media you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah at more Burke on all the socials as a

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Speaker 5: nineties kid.

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Speaker 2: I'm loving where hip hop is right now. So the

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Speaker 2: new Clips album, the nw JID album, obviously g n X,

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Speaker 2: and a guy that I know, brother Ali, has a

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Speaker 2: great record called Satisfied Soul out a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah open. Mike Eagle also has a new album out

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Speaker 1: that's really good.

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Speaker 2: Where he says mercury and Gatorade.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, Yeah, that's great all right. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian on

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Speaker 1: Blue Sky at Jack Obi and the number one uh

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Speaker 1: work media I've been enjoying is a Nogarfuncle just reposted

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Speaker 1: a picture of John Bolton and Cash Patel and tweeted

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Speaker 1: two of the most Guess who faces out? You really

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00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: couldn't look more more like Guess who cares?

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Speaker 2: Bolton especially is straight off the Guess Who board. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter, on Blue Sky, at

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Speaker 1: Daily Zey Guys R at the Daily Zeigeist. On Instagram,

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Speaker 1: you can go to the description of this episode wherever

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Speaker 1: you're listening to it, and there you will find the footnotes,

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Speaker 1: which is where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about today's episode. We also look off to

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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles Out

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Speaker 1: on Assignment Toper producer Justin Conner, is there a song

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Speaker 1: that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this track is something I would describe as like

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Speaker 4: very spacey, deeply meditative. The sound design is very impressive.

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Speaker 4: The vocals are hypnotic, the falsettos are smooth. It's just

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Speaker 4: a nice little vacation of a song. This is called

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Speaker 4: gold Coast by Bosco.

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Speaker 1: That's b O. S c O.

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Speaker 4: And you can find that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: Footnotes. Is Bosco the name of like a chocolate serra

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Speaker 1: is a Bosco? I do not know Bosco syrups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's a type of chocolate syrup. But I remember

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Speaker 1: from like a maybe yes reference in Seinfeld.

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Speaker 4: I don't know anyways, Well, this is rich and smooth

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Speaker 4: like chocolate syrup.

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Speaker 1: There. Hell yeah.

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Speaker 7: avenue to tell you what is trending, and we will

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Speaker 7: talk to you all then.

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