WEBVTT - Lanterns S1E02

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for episode two of Lanterns

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<v Speaker 1>on HBO Max b Warted. Hello, it is Jason Concepcio

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm raisey night and welcome back to the extra

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<v Speaker 1>vision of the podcast wed A DVD, Favorite Shows, Movies, Coments,

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<v Speaker 1>My culture comb or where were you of the episodes

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<v Speaker 1>we listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode, we are recapping Latin's episode to trust

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<v Speaker 2>for Trustfall. Hope you like aliens and hot sci fi

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<v Speaker 2>guys because we're gang weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. It is not the earliest morning

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<v Speaker 1>after seven am, Rushville, Nebraska, twenty sixteen. I think seven

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<v Speaker 1>am after seven pretty late for a Lantern trainee to

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<v Speaker 1>be waking up. But he's but John is is cozially asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>tucked in in bed. Hal Jordan sneaks into the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>room and dumps a bucket of water on his trainee.

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<v Speaker 1>Get up. Time to learn to fly? How's instructions are

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<v Speaker 1>extremely minimal. He gives John, He gives you the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>says put it on and fly. That's it, Just fly.

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<v Speaker 2>How as bad as a trade now, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>lie this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not doing great as a trader.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy for how to you know to say after

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<v Speaker 1>one many years of wearing the ring, and two the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's a pilot, so thank you, has that

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<v Speaker 1>innate instinct for flight, which John does not have. Former

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<v Speaker 1>marine in this telling apparently not no architecture back. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're let's let's see, let's see. But John tries really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>goes up on his stoopy toes and everything like he's

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<v Speaker 1>masturbating in the shower.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy that the toe the toe positions on the

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<v Speaker 2>toes were cracking me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, he does not say flight. He

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<v Speaker 1>instead conjures a small green bird like the Song of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sparrow basically, which is not big, which is not not

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<v Speaker 1>does not seem like a big deal until John takes

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<v Speaker 1>off the ring because it's almost dead, very little charge

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<v Speaker 1>left in it, hands it back to Hal, who powers

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<v Speaker 1>it down and notices the bird does not disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very interesting is an implication of John's power.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very interesting. Hal takes note of this, conceals his

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, trying to act like he's not interested, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>all watching him be like yes'm and replaced like and

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<v Speaker 2>then he gives John a new task, which is take

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<v Speaker 2>take this here airline ticket, fly in a window seat,

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<v Speaker 2>probably coach back to Coast City, get my lantern from

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<v Speaker 2>my house, and don't let this little bird die.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your other. That's really your big task. Remain focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the bird, and if you lose focus, the bird

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<v Speaker 1>will disappear and you fail this task. Also feed a pet,

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<v Speaker 1>which you will discover what it is. John goes off.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal goes alone back to the bleachers where the quadruples

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<v Speaker 1>shooting took place, and he notices the metal detectors all

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<v Speaker 1>around the football field. He goes into town. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>where the fuck is everybody's streets are empty. He flies

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<v Speaker 1>up completely dead in town. He flies up, sees all

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<v Speaker 1>the cars parked by the meeting hall or whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>know local like Knights of Columbus or whatever. His ring dies.

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<v Speaker 1>He falls to the ground and he has to walk

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<v Speaker 1>over to this meeting hall and when he gets inside

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<v Speaker 1>he notices one more metal detectors and two that the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation just stops. When he walks in, he says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>were you all talking about me? He notices Sheriff Macon

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<v Speaker 1>up on the stage at the mic with the other

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<v Speaker 1>luminaries of the town around her, and it really does

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about him, yeah, definitely, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about something that they don't want him to know about.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very like, you know the moment in American

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<v Speaker 2>we welf in London where you walk in and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the bar stops barring. It's like the I was

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<v Speaker 2>giving that sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Macon is like, no, no, no, we were talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's been this very traumatic quadruple shooting, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about whether this week's football game should

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<v Speaker 1>go forward. Very normal stuff. How goes in, he sits down,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Macon, his lawyer. Sheriff Macon's husband comes sits next

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<v Speaker 1>to him and is like, hey, good good news. Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>have been dropped. You don't have to pay me, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can leave, like you should leave great weather, like

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<v Speaker 1>you should, like you could yeah, like, and it really

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<v Speaker 1>does seem like, you know, Billy would would like love

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<v Speaker 1>him to leave. Over in Coast City, JS arrives at

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<v Speaker 1>How's shockingly palatial mansion to find outside numerous rocks where

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<v Speaker 1>a key could be its pile of there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>hedge or like a what would you call it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>a hedge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like it's it's almost sort of like a planta,

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<v Speaker 2>but just full of rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, there's a there's a long hedge that's like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>yards long leading up to the front door, and all

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<v Speaker 1>below that is rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So he calls Hal to get the right rock and

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<v Speaker 1>is like how much do you make? Like how much? Islanders?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how? And All's like, no, the house is a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>I saved the guy's kid and he was wealthy and

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't help. But he just gave me a house,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd let him give me a house.

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<v Speaker 2>House says not enough, but it's like, maybe you could

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<v Speaker 2>have sold this house.

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<v Speaker 1>The house is like a millionaires of dollars. Could have

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<v Speaker 1>made eighty million dollars selling the house, Like how did

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<v Speaker 1>the chandeli is? You still would have to pay properly

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<v Speaker 1>taxes right on the on the on the first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the house, he'd have to pay the taxes and

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<v Speaker 1>then whatever. So he's making he's making good money. Inside,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Hal never really moved in, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>put it up. The pictures of himself with like the

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<v Speaker 1>Pope and all these other famous people. Hal is describing

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<v Speaker 1>it to John like where the lantern is. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>my closet. He's got this huge walking closet that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the size of my house. And in there is the safe,

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<v Speaker 1>and the safe is a pocket dimension and here's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>James loves the pocket dimension.

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<v Speaker 1>Love a pocket It is really cool. So yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets the safe open. John reaches in eventually does

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<v Speaker 1>get the lantern. Out, sees the green lantern suits and

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<v Speaker 1>is like and clearly entranced by these suits, and he's like, hey, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need me to bring a suit, and How's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. John goes out to feed Earl,

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<v Speaker 1>who is out in the greenhouse, which is this entire

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<v Speaker 1>separate other house because my apology, Yeah, goes out there

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<v Speaker 1>and and Earl turns out to be a carnivorous little

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<v Speaker 1>horror style alien plant living on the property. While they

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<v Speaker 1>are having this conversation, how is stealing bodies from this scene?

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<v Speaker 3>This shows you, I think, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it shows you how much jurisdiction the green

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<v Speaker 2>Lains have and how this scene because like this is

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<v Speaker 2>such a ridiculous scene. There's just like anyone else is

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<v Speaker 2>getting arrested if they do this right.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jon's like, fuck it, I can do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wan so how uh so? How steals these bodies from

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<v Speaker 1>the morgue and puts them in the rental, takes them

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<v Speaker 1>over to the football field where he discovers that these

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<v Speaker 1>metal detectors are actually very very advanced alien detectives. Oh remember,

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<v Speaker 1>there are multiple species of aliens that cannot be detected

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<v Speaker 1>by any kind of known scientific means, so these are

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<v Speaker 1>super super advanced tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Macon pulls him over as he's driving around town

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple dead alien bodies that look like humans.

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<v Speaker 3>Are naked in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks very naked, naked and dead in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a conversation about what's going on. How's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what you think it is. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that she knows a lot about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in town. She knew about the alien detectors. She knows

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<v Speaker 1>what her father in law is up to, but she

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<v Speaker 1>won't say. She admits that he's very interested in aliens,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not a crime, and she, like everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>would really like it if had left town. But she

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<v Speaker 1>is like so I can do my job. You're actually

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<v Speaker 1>like fucking up my job. Because the way she frames

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<v Speaker 1>it is there is whatever her father in law is

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<v Speaker 1>up to, it is a competing power center with her

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<v Speaker 1>own authority in town, and how's continued presence in town

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<v Speaker 1>is driving more people into the arms of her father

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<v Speaker 1>in law, William Macon, and she would like that not

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<v Speaker 1>to stop. But again she gives him very little information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's and he kind of basically he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you can tell one.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like this flirtation between the two of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, there is, there is a little bit they see

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<v Speaker 2>them very fun in the in the scene in the

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<v Speaker 2>town hall when she says hey Darlin to her husband

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<v Speaker 2>and hall ants is back as well, like they do

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<v Speaker 2>a good job at it, but he plays on her

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<v Speaker 2>morals hair and kind of goes, well, whose side are

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<v Speaker 2>you on because it kind of sounds like maybe you're

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<v Speaker 2>on your husband's father's side and that's why you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want me, And she kind of goes, well, actually, like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we can work something out. So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're building on a fun, fun, little play allyship between

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<v Speaker 2>those two.

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<v Speaker 1>The theme of cooking is very present in the first

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes of the Lanterns program in which Helen is trainee,

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<v Speaker 1>JS certainly do appear to be actively attempting to cook

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<v Speaker 1>notable figures in the town anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, we respect that respect it if that's

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<v Speaker 2>your thing. In Clone adults, that's actually you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be unafraid. You just really have to be into

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<v Speaker 2>cuckolding other people. That's how they picked.

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<v Speaker 1>The Green Lantern. Anyway, she agrees to take how to

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<v Speaker 1>William Macon's militia ranch, which he manages for some unknown guy. Too.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to basically at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>episode to basically just like whatever, you can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>William yourself and just ask it. They go over there.

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<v Speaker 1>They go inside the gate by like two steps, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more than Sheriff Making really wanted how to go.

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted him to stay outside and like, address will

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<v Speaker 1>you Making from outside the property. But he's William lant

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<v Speaker 1>her to do it right. William Acan just turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be at that gate of what I imagine is

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<v Speaker 1>like a many many miles long perimeter of the product.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of rides over in his horse. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of there, stay out of here. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>answer your questions because of the NDA. I can't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about who's funding the thing. Yes, my boss really exists,

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<v Speaker 1>stay out, don't take any further steps into my property.

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<v Speaker 1>That man in the in the guard post over there

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<v Speaker 1>in his orders to shoot house, like you crazy? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna shoot me? The sheriffs like he can legally

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<v Speaker 1>do that? He's like, yeah, but I got the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do? But the rings out of power?

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<v Speaker 1>He's bluffing and then a shot rings out? And how

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<v Speaker 1>gets shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Which, first of all, he was really pushing it like

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<v Speaker 2>he was basically like, how can I get shot?

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<v Speaker 3>Second of all, we have to answer ask this question here.

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<v Speaker 2>The implication of I don't think it's unconnected that they

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<v Speaker 2>introduce a pocket dimension in this episode, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>also introduce high tech alien kind of technology that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist in America.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety six is lex.

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<v Speaker 2>Luc No way, it's two thousand six, Oh too, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry sorry twenty sixteen. I got my three timelines mixed

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<v Speaker 2>up bevid in twenty sixteen it shouldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are we saying?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's safe to say that they want us

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<v Speaker 2>to at least think that Lex Luthor is the boss

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<v Speaker 2>of this it's I think that is at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least the implication will have.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be a lot of questions at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode that we can have some fun theorizing on,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's one of them. But I think the note

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<v Speaker 2>of the high tech alien, you know, finders and the

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<v Speaker 2>pocket dimension, if we think about Superman, I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>wanting us to make those connections. I think it's also

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<v Speaker 2>a red herring. Probably looking at this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's a red herring as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going in a very straightforward direction based on

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<v Speaker 1>what is revealed later. But I do agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like they want the fans to feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>For a general non comics reading audience, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>meant to wonder if this is Lex exactly. For the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have read comics and Green Lantern comics in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>and or or have some familiarity with the lore, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what this is probably seems pretty obvious to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that I wonder if that's even around.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm trying to work out too. But we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that more.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about that, Martin anyway, So while that

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<v Speaker 1>was happening in Nebraska, John is getting kidnapped. Oh oh,

0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he gets tased immediately after leaving house house, wakes up

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<v Speaker 1>in a van with a bag over his head. They

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<v Speaker 1>take the bag off. He's talking to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys like, where's my bird? He's like, your bird is fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just the guys out and still alive?

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<v Speaker 2>So just think about what that means to his willpower, intensity,

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<v Speaker 2>for his connection to the lantern and to this is

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<v Speaker 2>the truth about John Stewart's powers in the comics. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't always need the ring. So let's just say that

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<v Speaker 2>they are leaning in to that here. Also want to

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<v Speaker 2>say great action scene. This for me is the best

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<v Speaker 2>one we've had so far in my action scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say this episode I was maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>was I had put some doubts upon the emotional bandwidth

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<v Speaker 1>of mister Pierre as an actor. I think he's great

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense he's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say the bird is like such a

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<v Speaker 2>good aspect to bring because we know he's vegan, we

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<v Speaker 2>know he cares about animals, We get the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>connection with him and Earl. It really adds a different

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<v Speaker 2>layer to what we got last week, which was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of this stoic, militarized kind of just he's he's the

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<v Speaker 2>good one. He knows what he's doing, and John and

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<v Speaker 2>Hal is kind of the silly like older guy who's.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit off rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>The RMPS stuff in this is so good. And also

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to shout out the writer specifically, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when I've ever seen such a fun

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<v Speaker 2>just like somebody running down the highway action scene, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're watching it, You're like, I want to watch

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<v Speaker 3>this ship.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he was a track athlete. No, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, like he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just he just looks good as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>He's running down that highway and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, we've skipped ahead. So he does. He finds

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<v Speaker 1>out that the bird is fine fine. He ends up

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<v Speaker 1>fighting one of his captors, escapes from the van, goes

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<v Speaker 1>running beautifully beautiful powerful strides as he goes running down

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<v Speaker 1>the highway with the lantern in his weekend or bag

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<v Speaker 1>slung across his back, but the attackers when they get

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<v Speaker 1>him back, he wakes up again in an abandoned building

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<v Speaker 1>and a man sitting across room who's kind of who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, apologetic about what's happening, like sorry for the violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the bird. How is how Jordan keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the bird like alive and existing despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's so far away, And John is like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, and and the guy is like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fucking I thought if John was doing that from

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<v Speaker 1>miles away, that would be impressive, but actually this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>really really impressive. He discovered. He introduces himself as an

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<v Speaker 1>alien named Anton. He says, we're all aliens. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to kill you, we want to recruit you because

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<v Speaker 1>of this manhunter issue we're having. Do you know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about manhunters? Like, I've never what's a man hunters? So

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<v Speaker 1>really you don't. You're agree you don't know anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're and he's like, no, I've never heard of manhunters.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like holy shit. Okay, well, we're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>the lore about manhunters and we're gonna upload it directly

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<v Speaker 1>into your mind. And it's very, very troubling. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to tell you if it seems fabilia

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<v Speaker 2>to you like it's from the Turtles, it's because the

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<v Speaker 2>Manhunters were created by Jack Cubby, who also created the Tunnels,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's exactly the same story.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So the law is this before the before the Core

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<v Speaker 1>was created. The Guardians, in a time of total chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>needed a police force, so they created the Manhunters. This

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<v Speaker 1>is pre Core, and they were these synthetic kind of robots.

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<v Speaker 2>In this that kind of like synthetic being. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know we could they kind of more very high tech

0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.080
<v Speaker 2>robots if they are, but they are like Manhunters, their

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<v Speaker 2>shape shifters. Yes, they can pauses any species undetected.

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<v Speaker 1>They can build weapons beyond anything that the occupied world

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<v Speaker 1>the worlds that they occupied could produce. They wiped out civilizations,

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<v Speaker 1>including ant Huon's civilization, which you know, like is a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible experience, and this is what they want to share

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<v Speaker 1>with John, So they put the memories of the destruction

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<v Speaker 1>of this civilization into John. Also, Aton and the other

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<v Speaker 1>aliens their homeworld like really trusted the Guardians. So this

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<v Speaker 1>like this destruction by the creation of the Guardians was

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<v Speaker 1>an immense, immense, immense betrayal. It's clear that the experience

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<v Speaker 1>of these traumatic memories is very, very painful for John.

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<v Speaker 1>He screams, but the bird stays existing, stays.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying even when he's being traumatized and terrorized and being

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<v Speaker 2>like literally fed generational trauma. Like it shows how innate

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<v Speaker 2>that the powers are. To John, I also want to

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<v Speaker 2>say this is very interesting because I was thinking a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about your theory from the pilot about the corruption

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<v Speaker 2>of the Guardians. I do think that there is that

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<v Speaker 2>layer to it. But I also think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of like I think we're gonna get introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to like two sides of the Guardian mentality, well, like

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<v Speaker 2>the conflict between the Guardians and kind of how they

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<v Speaker 2>think you should play the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about this more because I do have

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<v Speaker 1>I have amended my theory slightly, although I still believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's just why yeah, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So Anton is like, hey, that was terrible, right now

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<v Speaker 1>you understand why we have to do what we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. We have to find this man Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>and kill it and you know, get justice for our people,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like make the galaxy safe because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very very dangerous being and we can't get into the

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<v Speaker 1>town undetected because of the technology that they have, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can so you go in there, call us on

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this burner phone, and then we will go in there

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<v Speaker 1>and kill it. And if you don't do that, we

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>will all go there and just detonate our suicide vests.

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<v Speaker 1>And sadly that will destroy like the town and probably

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<v Speaker 1>much of the state of Nebraska. But like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 1>You have four for eight hours, or we will just

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<v Speaker 1>just blow up half the state. Okay, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>a break and we'll be right back to finish out

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the recount. We're back. Hal wakes up in the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>to find Sheriff Carrie making making Google eyes our Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big big old Google eyes, and she says, hey, who's Sinestra?

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You were talking about him and you're sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal is extremely concerned about this, especially the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been like talking in his sleep about apparently like

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<v Speaker 1>very very sensitive guardian stuff. But she's like, no, don't worry. Well,

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I googled Sinester and I learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Some stuff about Also, like the internet was just loving

0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 2>this movement.

0:21:58.200 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 3>They're like, imagine if you could just like google s.

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<v Speaker 2>And fictional like it was just like law and I

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<v Speaker 2>also did love like I gotta I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>if there's some tiny, whimy, weird shit going on or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the way that like Hal just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really seems he knows he's famous, but he's also always

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<v Speaker 2>like ten years behind everyone else in that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge base.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously, like I do respect the writers for being like,

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna put Kyle Chandler in a football stadium

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<v Speaker 2>every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I love it. So she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I google him. He is a former lantern. He led

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<v Speaker 1>a coup, he tried to take over the Guardians, he

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<v Speaker 1>killed some lanterns, and you brought him down and put

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<v Speaker 1>him in jail. She then says, listen, you're fucking me

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>up being here in town messing with William macan, getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the whole thing. She makes it seem like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I am dealing with it. I understand, and we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the same side in that I understand that there's some

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>complex issue use visa vi aliens and it's really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't know what's going on. I know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Let me deal with it, Okay. They walk

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>out of the hospital. Hal notices one else there's nobody

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>else in the hospital, and all of the brand new

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>equipment is like still bagged up.

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Not even as and it's expensive. And this is why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say, I think this episode is really

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<v Speaker 2>really fun for theory hounds because you can come out

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>of this with like ten different reads on what the

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<v Speaker 2>town is. And we're definitely gonna talk about that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's another fun thing we got to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I should add that among the many things

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<v Speaker 1>that Hal is messing up, Sheriff Macon tells him is

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>she's kind of like messing up her marriage. Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting you're putting some waves under the boat of our marriage.

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And this gets how like sits up and is like

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<v Speaker 1>trouble in your man?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I He's good?

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I love cook holding He's like, yeah, like my whole thing, guys,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>me and my tradee we just really love ticking other

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<v Speaker 2>people's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to cook anyway. He asks her finally, is

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>like where are you from? And she's like, oh, it

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>took you this long to like start taking an interest

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to me a question. So there is some there is

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of two way chemistry here for sure.

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 1>It turns out she's from Gotham and she kind of

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>moved here on a whim. John gets back into town,

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>stops in at the diner to refuel, and who should

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>he see but uh, wife of the cooked William macon

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Zoe sitting at the bar of the diner. She's like,

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>don't earn a small town it happens. He's like, you know,

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have cooked. I wouldn't have done any cooking

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>had I known that there was a husband to cook.

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, absolutely untrue. When this man literally immediately.

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Went to Halla, was like, shit, I fucked his wife.

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Like he wants people to know, don't lie.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not a shamed She.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't seem all that troubled by it. Honestly, they talk

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>about their husband, they talk about and this is I

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<v Speaker 1>think a really well written this interaction that really makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think this show has like some sort of some juice.

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<v Speaker 1>She is like, you know, white guys they don't they

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<v Speaker 1>they don't notice things really because they come to life

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>with this privilege that you know, outsiders or people of

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>color don't have. By the way, how's your white man doing?

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And and John is like, well, he sent me to

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>California to pick up his clothes. Yeah, exactly, like hello, anyway,

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that's great, such good. John arrives back at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal is in his little sling, sitting in the parking

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>lot in a little launch air. John throws the lantern

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>bag at him and is like, fuck you, and he's

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>brought the uniform, which Hal didn't ask him to bring,

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's there. How charges the lantern up with a

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>quick recitation of the oath, almost like he doesn't even.

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Really he does not want to say it. He's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of blah blah blaring his way through the oarth.

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Charges it up. They then argue John's like, why didn't

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you Why weren't you impressed by the bird? Why don't

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you say anything about the bird? By the way, I

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>know now that the bird is a big, fucking.

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Fucking cool bit.

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You didn't say anything about how you know how cool

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a bird was. I was like, yeah, the bird was cool.

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, likes you gotta say my job.

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Then John tells him everything that he wasn't supposed to

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>tell him, that Anton told him that manhunters, the memories,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the forty eight hours, the destroyed civilization. Hal is kind

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>of blown away. He's like barely able to. He's like,

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>what the hide? How fucking shook he is by all this?

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Forty eight hours? He's like, yeah, forty eight hours. John

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>is like, are you gonna tell me what's going on?

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>How's like no, but they kind of like work out

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the rest the Guardians would not have hidden a Manhunter

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, so something else is going on here. Hal

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>is like, go to sleep, we'll talk about this later.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And then when John goes into his hotel room, Hal

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like sneaks back out with the suit on, flies up

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to OA.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, because because he kind of we're like,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>how kind of we kind of.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Realized, like aben sa who's the one who gave How

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the ring?

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>He obviously came here with the fucking man hunt and

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>so then now directly connecting this mystery to How's origin,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>which I do think is a really cool, interesting twist.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And he flies off the OA and you're like, oh,

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>he must be going to see the Guardians.

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 3>No, uh no, oh bitch, absolutely not.

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>He walks straight to the Science sells to go talk

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to Sinestra. Sinestro is just kind of sitting there and

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>How's like, what's going on with Manhunters? What do you

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>know about manhunters? And Sneestra's like, well, if a manhunter

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>did exist, it would only be the second greatest threat

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that you're facing. Tell me about John Stewart bomb.

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Because Sinestra is obviously gonna be his like Hannibalack thought

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be that like kind.

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Of let's take a break and we'll come back and

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the episode and we're back. Okay. You

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>were saying that Sinestro is like Hal's Hannibal Lecter, and

0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly right.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they're doing that.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that also, I really like this idea of

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the hat uh John as a threat to how because

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>this is clearly a show about like legacy and moving

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>on and finding your place in this like messed up

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>cosmic world. And it's very clear that Hell does not

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>want to give up the ring for whatever reason, and

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that Sinestro is clearly going to be playing

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>on that in a way that's going to try and

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>create conflict.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>But I also think.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>We got great moments this episode of hallan John's closeness,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>like the conversation about the bird really shows kind of

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>their chemistry. So I don't think Sinestro is going to

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>be able to do that. But interestingly, I actually like

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>came away from this episode with more questions, like I

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>love Sinestro and I think that's obviously a huge reveal.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 2>But Jason, who's your biggest pick for like who the

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Manhunter is? Because I think that's the biggest Like is

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>it someone we've already seen? Is it one of the

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>cut Why is it one of the wives?

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Like who is it?

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who's your I think we most likely to

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 3>be matter.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Macon, Sheriff Macon, Zoey Definitely, Zoe's my number one

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm then those two are the top leaders in the clubhouse. Now.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So what I think is here's what I think is going.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I think one that it's not it's obviously not known

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>in this version of the DCU that the Guardians maybe

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>had a Manhunter project that they I don't think it's

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's I think that's probably some version

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of Guardians classified, like that's exact thing that people understand,

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think how must be worried that there are

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>still factions within the Guardians who are involved with this

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and are doing something with it. Secondarily, I think the

0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>manhunter is the person who owns the land, Okay, William

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and who Will make In is working for. And that's

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>why I think will is not super bothered about his

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>wife stepping out, because I think his wife is actually

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the boss.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>That would actually be so sick. I really like that.

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I do think you're right. I think it could be

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too much what it seems like after

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the first After this episode, it's a little bit like, yeah,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>that would be that makes so much sense.

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>I also wonder so that all.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>The alien tech, the alien detection and stuff. I also

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>wonder if there's like an inverse version of it where

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>there's actually tons of aliens working there, living there, and

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>this is them trying to make sure that aliens they

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know get in.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>So there's like a.

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Segment of the town that is alien, and then there's

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the segment that is allegedly anti alien. I just feel

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 2>like there's more going on in the town than we know.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Like the hospital was essentially looked like a film set, right.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.719
<v Speaker 2>It looked like a brand new hospital that no one

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>had used. So it's like, who's building the town, what's

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the purpose of the town, how many people live in

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the town, how used is the town like, is the

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>town affront for something else. I think that two episodes

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in they're really starting to broaden out the mystery in

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>an interesting way and moving it away from a classical

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>just like, Oh, someone else got murdered, it's another murder mystery.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it's actually a really smart.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Move because while I do love a classical murder mystery,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the first episode that was not the aspect that hooked me.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>So I think moving more into this kind of green

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>lantern space is definitely a really.

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Cool way to go.

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm also interested because the Manhunter's stuff could definitely tie

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>into Superman, Lex Luthor, all that kind of futuristic stuff.

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>We know right now that John Stewart is gonna be

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>in Man of Tomorrow, we know how Jordan is gonna

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>be in Man of Tomorrow. Allegedly we're gonna also see

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Blue Beetle in Man of Tomorrow. So I do feel

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is finally giving us a little bit of

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that connective tissue that we've.

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Been asking for. All the potential of it.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>What the potential the potential of it?

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 3>What do you really want to see in an episode three?

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I still want.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>To see more John I need to see more John.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I think I love the teases we got here, but

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I need to know about him and his dad. I

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>keep going back to that.

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would like to know more about it. Really

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>does appear that they've changed kind of classic John backstory

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and and I've done more of the I forget which

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>animated series I think invented.

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably Justice League or Justice League Unlimited, and so it

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>was there was Jeff John's who did the He the Man?

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I really like to know more about which

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you know it like the backstory of John similarly, and

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what it is because in the comics it's like he's

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>an architect, so he's able to create these you know,

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>conjure thinks from the Ring that are much more deep

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and intricate and alive than yeah, anyone else could have done.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like when they made Kyle Rayner was a cartoonist, right,

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>he was an artist, so he had a bit more

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>of that flare. But with John the it's these real

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>beautiful Yeah, and that could explain as well, even though

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not necessarily. I think they're leaning in here to

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>his veganism, his connection to the natural world, which I love,

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 2>So maybe his understanding of like animals and birds and

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>living things. That's why it was so easy for him

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 2>to conjure the bird and keep it alive. And also

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>in Justice League Unlimited, in the cartoons, in the shirt,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 2>in the comics, there are versions of John who doesn't

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 2>have to wear the ring. He has the glowing green

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>eyes he manifests from the he doesn't even really need

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the battery because he's so connected to OA, So I.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Think we could be leaning into that.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I also think that we're definitely gonna see Sinestro playing

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>on this idea of how having like John being his

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>replacement rather than like his trainee, you know. And I

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 2>think that, well, I want to know more about how

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>what happened to him? Why does he not want to

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>be a green lantern anymore? Like I'm starting to care

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:01.959
<v Speaker 2>about why he's upset, And.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that we're going to discover that Sinestro,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>for whatever Sinestro did, he did it because this is

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the way he's going to frame it. Right. I don't

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>know if this is right, but this is the way

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>he's going to frame it to how he tried to

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>take over the Guardian Corps because of this conspiracy that exists. Yes,

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>has something, and I'm the wrong guy. I've been in prison. Yes,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you took me down and imprisoned me, but you know

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm right, And you've been having these doubts for ten

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>years now about actually imprison the right guy. And actually

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>this is all tied up in because uh, you know,

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the Manhunters did two things in the comics that are

0:35:54.680 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me. One, they like trained local species to

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>be like their servants and like be like in a

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>like an occult around them.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that sound like? Sounds like.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like what's happening? Right? And Two they were very

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>interested in and against programs to like evolve races into

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like you know, higher forms and weapons to create basically

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>superhero like Guardian programs or other alien programs to create

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>like super beings. Very interesting and so which leads me

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to wonder if John is the result of one of

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>these secret and Sinestro knew about it, and that's why

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Sinestro knows who John Stewart is. And so I want

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to see how the Guardians contact John like we don't.

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I need to know why John's dad knew who they were.

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I need to know why John knew who they were,

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and I need to know if the connection is John,

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>if it's his.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Dad, I need.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm so interested in that, and I think that I

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like this was a really fun, crazy, action packed episode,

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would love like a bottle episode that kind

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>of gives us more of that law, especially because right

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>now I don't there's nothing I instantly need solved in

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the town like that can continue to slow burn, but

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>we need to, probably, he says, tell me about John Stewart,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So that would be a great opening here to have

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>a John Stewart backstory.

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Jason, how do you feel I'm not gonna lie.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I did assume because of my beloved show that I

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>thank you to the people who are happy I shouted

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>this one out last episode Cruel Summer, the incredible freeform show.

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>The way that worked was every single episode was the

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>same day over three timelines.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Really fun.

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I last episode we got the three different timelines to establish.

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Did you expect that every episode it would be a

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>different Yeah.

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought we would be jumping. So I'm interested to

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>see why we end up next with the timeline.

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted to. This is the next thing I

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>did want to talk about because I do think I

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's clear. What's the way they're going to do

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>this show. Is everything's going to happen in twenty sixteen

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the past. We're going to get to what happens with

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Hallan and Sheriff Macon. We're going to understand like the

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of struggle between to find out like what the

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>mystery of the town is. But they're I think they're

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>ultimately not going to fully satisfy whatever their the mystery is.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.760
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to truly figure it out. And that's

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I think some somewhere around probably episode how many or

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>ten episodes in this eight I think ten eight Somewhere

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>around episode six, we're going to go to the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm interested to see if maybe on nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>if we get the nineteen ninety six flashback again, it

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<v Speaker 2>will be back in that John timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, maybe John, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm interested, Yeah, so, okay, I'm interested to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know where that goes next, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think obviously the end of the pilot, it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a big shocking twist, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people were really excited to just dive into John

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<v Speaker 2>solving that mystery.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested. But I think this is a fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Expansion of what to expect from the sci fi aspects.

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<v Speaker 2>And we do get that suiting up scene and the

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<v Speaker 2>flying scene, so they're kind of leaning a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my other question, now that I'm thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, like, why doesn't the town react more

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<v Speaker 1>the way they're acting towards Hal. It makes sense he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to ring and everything, But why isn't the Manhunter

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<v Speaker 1>worried about John? Does it not know about John? But

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm thinking, if if Zoe is the Manhunter,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why she fucked Johns exactly. It's like she's learning, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to check him out, like intimately check him out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she is in fact doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and I do kind of like your read

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<v Speaker 3>on that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Where and also, if we think about James Gunn, we

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<v Speaker 2>think about the stories he's told on the TV shows

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever, you know, we are people who love this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about it in a popular way, in a

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<v Speaker 3>critical way.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing we've celebrated throughout all of his DC work

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<v Speaker 2>has been this kind of subversion and trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>stories that seem like they're making a statement, even if

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<v Speaker 2>he's not someone who's going out saying this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You can read it in the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Peacemaker had the town that Ian beloved ex super

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<v Speaker 2>producer Ian clocked very early on was all white, and

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<v Speaker 2>you got this really great reveal that it was this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of neo Nazi Earth X. And then I think

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<v Speaker 2>here there is a version where if Zoe is really

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<v Speaker 2>the boss and she basically in charge of this white

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<v Speaker 2>militia mansion, you get another very interesting James Gunn kind

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<v Speaker 2>of context there. And then again obviously there is this

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<v Speaker 2>cuckolding aspect like which is very James gun but very

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting to imagine where that could possibly go. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also interested in them bringing in the Manhunters at all, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do feel like they have to be going

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere quite big with it. So this really feels like

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<v Speaker 2>as an HBO program that it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>The one that really leads into Superman. In my opinion, if.

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<v Speaker 1>If we are right and that the Lex thing is

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<v Speaker 1>a fake out and this really is like a Manhunter cult,

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<v Speaker 1>that's who's behind this. That's funding it somehow. How does

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<v Speaker 1>this connect to the wider dc U that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>established thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it would be that they would still

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<v Speaker 2>have connection and be financially supported to by Lex because

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<v Speaker 2>Lex is the number one anti alien kind of person

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<v Speaker 2>within the universe. So I think the fact they have

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket Dimension technology, I think the fact that it

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<v Speaker 2>is this alleged anti alien movement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be quite easy for them to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or on much more simple level is if the Manhunters

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<v Speaker 2>are established as being here, they could just become an

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<v Speaker 2>antagonist for Superman, because once you know, Superman is like

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<v Speaker 2>out publicly and doing all this stuff, they it might

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<v Speaker 2>start impacting the other aliens, you know, this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>heightened amount of superpowered beings or aliens. Also, if they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to set up a kind of anti meta meta

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<v Speaker 2>human movement, which they did in the CW and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>has been done throughout the comics, the Manhunters could be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a leading charge of that if they felt

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<v Speaker 2>like certain people were getting their powers from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>alien technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna be continuing youing our coverage of Lanterns

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<v Speaker 1>every week on the next episode, of Extra Vision. We're

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