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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Well, the verdict is in

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Speaker 1: and it was not a very long verdict. Watch was it.

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Speaker 1: Many people thought the jury may be out till tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: may come back late late this afternoon. Not true. This

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Speaker 1: jury had their minds made up. I've seen jurars deliberate

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Speaker 1: for days and days and days, so you think they're

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Speaker 1: never going to come back with a verdict and when

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Speaker 1: they do, it will probably be a hung jury. No,

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Speaker 1: this jury turned it around in a matter of hours.

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Speaker 1: Long story short. Johnny Depp wins the block buster case

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Speaker 1: against his ex wife Amber Heard you know her from Aquaman,

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Speaker 1: the jury ruling that she defamed him with claims of

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Speaker 1: physical and sex violence. Now hold on, it ain't over yet.

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Speaker 1: The jury also found for her in a much lesser way.

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Speaker 1: The jury said that Johnny Depp's lawyer made a defamatory

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Speaker 1: statement about Amber Heard and awarded her a couple of

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Speaker 1: million dollars as well. So, long story short. Regarding the money,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Depp is celebrating right now in the UK, claiming, quote,

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Speaker 1: the jury gave me my life back. He is going

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Speaker 1: to walk away, even though he was awarded fifteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars with about eight point three five million. Why is

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Speaker 1: that he was awarded fifteen million dollars in all part

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Speaker 1: of that impunitive, part of that in compensatory damages, that's

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Speaker 1: to compensate him for damage to his career. But there

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Speaker 1: is a cap in that jurisdiction aver Genia. The maximum

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Speaker 1: on punitive damage is of this nature is three hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. So he's only gonna get the

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Speaker 1: eight point three five after paying amber Heard. So for

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Speaker 1: those of you like me that are not major in math,

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Speaker 1: that's fifteen million, cutting one verdict down to three hundred

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand, and he's got to pay amber Heard two million.

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Speaker 1: So you know what, that's not exactly pocket change. That's

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Speaker 1: nearly ten million dollars, but that he has the backdrop

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Speaker 1: of him sewing for millions and millions and her sewing

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Speaker 1: for millions and millions back I wonder if the jury

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Speaker 1: thought these were just two rich people fighting over money.

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Speaker 1: I tend to think so, because one side was asking

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Speaker 1: for one hundred million, the other side was asking for

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Speaker 1: fifty million. The full award was less than ten million.

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Speaker 1: Amber Heard was in the courtroom today and she looked very,

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Speaker 1: very serious. As she should have depth as I said

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Speaker 1: was in the UK. He says, fulfilling a work commitment.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to be on tour with a band.

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? Many people have reduced this down

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Speaker 1: to a popularity contest. I do not believe it was

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Speaker 1: a popularity contest. I believe that the jury disliked Amber heard.

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Speaker 1: I believe they, like me, thought it was really odd

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Speaker 1: that she kept filming arguments and filming Depth in very

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Speaker 1: unflattering conditions, almost as if she was setting him up. Now,

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Speaker 1: do I believe he ever hit her? Probably? Do I

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Speaker 1: believe she set him up? Definitely? Do I believe she lied? Definitely.

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Speaker 1: You put all that in the pot together, including the

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Speaker 1: fact that she admitted on tape that she hit Depth

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Speaker 1: as well, and basically, you got two wet cats and

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Speaker 1: a barrel. Which one is going to crawl out of

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Speaker 1: the barrel first? Well, today Depp crawled out first, to

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Speaker 1: the tune of eight point three five million. Has this

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Speaker 1: set women back real victims of domestic violence? That remains

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Speaker 1: to be seen. I tend to think it has. Now

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Speaker 1: when a woman claims domestic violence, she's going to be

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Speaker 1: accused of quote pulling an Amber it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Do I like it? No? Is it true? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about domestic violence one moment. In addition

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Speaker 1: to prosecuting and representing victims for years and years years,

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Speaker 1: I also worked at the Battered Women's Center as a

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Speaker 1: volunteer for nine years, manning the hotline. So many women

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Speaker 1: are beaten brutally. So many women have nowhere to go.

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Speaker 1: So many women stay in vicious abuse of homes to

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Speaker 1: protect their children, or because they don't know what else

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Speaker 1: to go, or they don't have the resources to get away.

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Speaker 1: This case will have an impact on those women, and

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Speaker 1: that is really what troubles me most about this case.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying this morning on air, a woman

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Speaker 1: want it to me at Target and said, do you

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Speaker 1: believe Amber Heard fake? To Bruce's to me? That was

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Speaker 1: the death knell for Amber Heard, for the general public

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Speaker 1: to believe she faked the whole thing. That's bad. That's

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Speaker 1: really bad, and it is a bad omen for domestic

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Speaker 1: violence victims in the future, legitimate real victims. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Johnny Depp is raising another glass of wine right now,

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Speaker 1: and Amber Heard is crying somewhere other somewhere over a

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Speaker 1: foiled attempt to get back at depth. Remember this was

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Speaker 1: all about an op ed, a piece she wrote for

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post, which, although she didn't name him by name,

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Speaker 1: called out Johnny depp is being an abuser. That's how

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Speaker 1: the whole thing started. Is it over yet? Probably not.

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Speaker 1: There could be appeals to this verdict. There could be repercussions.

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Speaker 1: We can't even imagine right now. When you go to court,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get ready to roll the dice. You never

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Speaker 1: know what a jury is going to do. You better

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Speaker 1: have a lawyer alike the rifleman, Remember how he would

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Speaker 1: walk down the center of town with his hand slightly

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Speaker 1: out to the side, ready to draw. You got to

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Speaker 1: have a lawyer that's ready to object and be strong

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Speaker 1: immediately in the moment, and a lawyer that the jury

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Speaker 1: can relate to and the parties. You really think this

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Speaker 1: jury liked Amber heard? I don't, But more critical, did

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Speaker 1: they believe her? I put up a lot of witnesses

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Speaker 1: I didn't like. But what matter it is? Were they

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Speaker 1: telling the truth? You don't have to be likable, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be believable. That was the problem. She just wasn't believable.

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Speaker 1: And there you have it. Case closed, well for now anyway,

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Speaker 1: And see Grace signing off by friend