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Speaker 2: Sometimes it is because even after this game, I went.

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Speaker 3: Threw it in my shoulder and just went in. He

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Speaker 3: went in. Welcome to Games with Names.

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Speaker 1: I'm Drew Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and we are

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Speaker 1: on a mission to finding the greatest game of all time.

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Speaker 1: And on today's episode, we are covering Game seven, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight Eastern Conference Semifinals with Basketball Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer Celtics legend my brother for life, Paul Pierce, and

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Speaker 1: we get into talking all things Celtics.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about one of the most historical franchises.

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Speaker 3: It is a brotherhood going one on one with Lebron.

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Speaker 2: He's a physical specimen. He's built like a powerful but

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Speaker 1: And the angriest he's ever seen. Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a man's intensity that high that that

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Speaker 1: Sweating, and then we play an NFL preseason edition of

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Speaker 1: the famous game Jack asks in this week's chillsren presented

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Speaker 1: Games and Names the production of iHeartRadio, May eighteen, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, TD Bank, North Garden, Boston, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: The Kid from Akron versus the Kid from Inglewood, Win

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Speaker 1: But the truth always prevails. This is that you can't

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Speaker 1: handle the truth game. Welcome to Games with Names. Today

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Speaker 1: we are looking at game seven of the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight Eastern Conference semifinals between the Celtics versus the

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Speaker 1: Cavaliers Young Lebron versus the Truth with the Truth, Paul Pierce, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the studio. But in one sentence, why this game?

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Speaker 3: Man? Why this game? I think, man, one sentence.

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Speaker 2: Playing against a guy Game seven who everybody was labeled

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Speaker 2: in the King at the time, King the King already

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Speaker 2: he was only like twenty three, I believe. And these

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Speaker 2: type of games are like it just puts you to

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Speaker 2: the next level, just career to find it.

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Speaker 1: Like a supernova game isn't like a supernova when a

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Speaker 1: star becomes a new star.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what this did. For me, Supernova game,

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Speaker 3: Supernova game? Yes? Is that what a super nova is?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I learned it once in science, but it maybe completely gone.

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Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: This is up there, up there? Yeah, this is up there.

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Speaker 2: It's it's in the top probably ten games all time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe probably top ten. Of your games are all all games?

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Speaker 3: All games? What is the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: The greatest game to me all time was probably uh

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Speaker 2: Jordan versus Utah when.

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Speaker 3: He hit the game winner? Hit? Was it a push off? Though? No?

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Speaker 3: That was good move. That's good move. Good move. Who

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Speaker 3: is that on? Brian Russell? Brian Russell? Yeah, that was

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Speaker 3: to me the greatest game. I remember that.

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Speaker 2: That was the last one, right, Yeah, that was his

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Speaker 2: last one in the bull uniform.

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Speaker 1: And then winter he chilled for what four years, and

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Speaker 1: then he Mike went to Washington when he bought the team.

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Speaker 3: Nah. But because Bulls Jordan was like scary scary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Neon that was good ass movie. It still hits too.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be our last show and this nuthouse

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Speaker 4: before we go east to the Boston Nuthouse, Baby, the

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Speaker 4: Boston That House presented by Duncan Downks.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Yeah, shipping.

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Speaker 3: That week is going to end with.

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Speaker 4: Us at MGM Music Hall Live Show.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I think of Duncan, I think of I think

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Speaker 3: What are you talking? The big One? Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 4: Bits all the time. I think that's one of the

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Speaker 5: Much time talking about selling sausages out behind Finway.

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Speaker 3: It's a good episode. That was awesome, So go get

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Speaker 3: the tickets.

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Speaker 4: We've got a couple left. August twenty eighth, eight o'clock

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Speaker 4: MGM Music Hall. You get your tickets at ticketmaster dot com.

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Speaker 3: But they're they're.

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Speaker 4: Running out, so let's sell this thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's sell this thing out. We're getting close. We

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Speaker 4: active patriots we're going to see. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: fucking blast. We're giving away a ton of merch, autographs

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Speaker 4: Robin Jewels signed the football that we are going to

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Speaker 4: So if you buy a ticket, put any Gronk spiked

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Speaker 4: Ticket, send us a story, tag us whatever shows you

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Speaker 3: It's we're gonna give It's gonna be a fu night.

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Speaker 1: Go go ticketmaster dot com, mark your calendars. August twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: eight pm, MGM Music Hall in Boston basically in Fenway.

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Speaker 3: Crowdsurfing stage dives.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can crowdsurfy out my neck

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Speaker 3: Okay, we already know everything. We're smart.

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Speaker 1: When was the first time you did you ever meet Magic?

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Speaker 3: The first time I met Magic? Yeah? I met Magic

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Speaker 3: Uh, but like it's kind of cool to like meet

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Speaker 3: Joe idol. Hell, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Who

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Speaker 1: I loved Joe Montana when I first met him, just

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Speaker 1: And then I got to meet him, and it was

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Speaker 3: I just had nothing for him. I had. It was

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget I met Joe because I idolized him too.

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Speaker 2: Actually I met him in the elevator in Orlando, uh,

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Speaker 2: I think I just kind of like, I think I

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Speaker 1: And I have a jersey signed by Bill Russell.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn. That was like, where is it?

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Speaker 1: And why isn't it somewhere? It's somewhere here He's tigning

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Speaker 3: Where it is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get that. It was in my Uh,

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Speaker 1: Let's get back this U c L A pickup game.

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Speaker 1: Who else were at these games? These are like big?

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Speaker 1: This was legendary. No, these was legendary. You're gonna have Kobe?

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Speaker 3: Uh, who's in basketball.

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Speaker 2: Like like like the big guys would never show up,

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Speaker 3: Uh. But man, everybody any fights, No, I don't remember

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody got into it. People got it to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the one thing about basketball, like I envy,

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Speaker 1: But you guys can work stuff against other guys. Like

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Speaker 1: The receiver should win every time because you have one

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Speaker 3: It's all on win. It's all about bringing like find

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Speaker 1: we'd all like run routes together. That's like our like

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Speaker 2: You, you know what I mean, Right, Damn, That's what make

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Speaker 3: You can go the whole off season.

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Speaker 2: You don't get no kind of like game preparation until

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Speaker 1: Until you're in camp, you get like I mean, you'll

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like how we see every year every spring,

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Speaker 3: Every every summer they come out with the right time

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Speaker 5: From the corner shot, So Ben Simmons, but it's an annual,

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a true So you grew up a bed.

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Speaker 1: I loved Baron Davis because he was That was when

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's what.

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Speaker 1: And then they got good. And then I moved out

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Speaker 3: And we had camp the next morning.

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Speaker 5: He was post rising AK forty seven, posterizing how was

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Speaker 1: I went and did his podcast over at his compound. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was kind of cool, kind of cool, right, compounds

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm at BD. I think he was like a

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Speaker 2: We we all played at the Inglewood YMCA. So he

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Speaker 3: You didn't have no case and a case Swiss shoes.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even case Swiss basketball shoes.

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Speaker 2: You did not have cases did probably had the KSE

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they had a basketball shoe. But we

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Speaker 2: were so broke that that's what we've had. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: We were case Swiss.

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Speaker 3: What was b D and so b D.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he was in. We got him,

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Speaker 2: And I've been knowing b D since it was elementary kids.

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Speaker 3: This day, you guys still stay in contact. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: We still talk. Go to the compound when you have

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Speaker 3: his little stuff doing stuff, Yeah, yeah, what does he

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Speaker 1: Starburger or something. What's that one that we had storm

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Speaker 1: storm Wood. Yeah, I ain't tried him yet.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of cool, you know. He found out

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Speaker 1: He had a bunch of Stormburgers waiting for me. He's like,

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Speaker 3: I was KG, where's KG.

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Speaker 2: KG at the house. I just talked to him this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'll text on text.

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Speaker 1: Like how often are you guys? Are you guys just

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Speaker 1: texting all day?

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Speaker 3: No? I see him about once a week though.

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Speaker 1: Once a week He's like, bro, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: We're kicking in the backyard. Chill. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, summer we retired. Is he training Wemby right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw that on Instagram. I don't

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Speaker 3: Try your little dog and the guy man he could see.

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Speaker 2: The thing is you could train with he could train

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Speaker 2: with Winby, but like, you ain't gone, you ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: don't just you can't just get that.

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Speaker 3: You can't mutantize that. You know what I'm saying. You can't.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to can't.

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Speaker 1: Well, like like in teenage I'll just watch Teenage Mutant

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Speaker 1: are those things like the Turtles the other two things

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Speaker 3: TV explaining.

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Speaker 4: Because I was like, what that gets?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there it is. I'm gonna give me a

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Speaker 3: T shirt called mutantize. Is that a real word? I

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Speaker 1: We just made it one mutantized baby mutantized. Now, Paul,

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Speaker 1: are you training anybody?

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Speaker 2: No, this is a different game, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: They probably look at my moves like dinosaur or something,

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Speaker 2: do they?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's a different game. They just shoot threes. If

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Speaker 2: you can just shoot three, that's all you need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for real, you know what I'm saying, think about.

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Speaker 3: I'll be watching the games.

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Speaker 2: It might be like ten straight possessions three three three

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Speaker 2: three three, Like nobody likes more the creativity is like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of missing.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: The team that won though sga, he's got to he's

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Speaker 1: got the best mid range, doesn't he do? So that's

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Speaker 1: why is it? Is it gonna swing back into the

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Speaker 1: mid range? Are we swinging back away from three? Because

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Speaker 1: the only team that really won with threes is basically

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Speaker 1: Celtics and Warriors, Right, those are the only two teams

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Speaker 2: Right, everybody else is trying to copy and mimic and everything,

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Speaker 2: and it ain't work. Yeah, you know, none of the other

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Speaker 2: teams really shot the threes like those two teams, like

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Speaker 2: you said, like Milwaukee, Denver they won the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Even Okay, see they shoot a lot of threes. Like that.

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Speaker 2: They played the right way to I like the way

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Speaker 2: they play. I like, like, say, smooth, he's smoothing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's also good, Like he's kind of what you

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Speaker 1: want to face your team to be. Now, yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of square. You're not square, but like you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's yeah, he's a good dude. Yeah

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Speaker 3: he see he come off like, you know, cool cat,

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Speaker 3: cool cat, all about the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like the culture that they built over there

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Speaker 2: is different. You know, like when you watch him do interviews,

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Speaker 2: you see he got his allest team in the interview

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Speaker 2: with him. They all right there, and you know it's

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Speaker 2: crazy how young he is to be at this level

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Speaker 2: right now. Hey, they can they can start a dynasty. Really,

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Speaker 2: this team is built for the long run.

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00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 1: We were saying that last year though with the Celtics.

440
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Celtics they still built for the long run.

441
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: They just got injured. Man, you know they still they

442
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: still when just tell them come back, They're still gonna

443
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: be Celtics. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna go to a

444
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: lot of games this year.

445
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I need that. We had to go to a

446
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: game together, Yeah, Paul.

447
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: I want to go with Paul as a fan, man,

448
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 5: Like what I need some hope for this year, Like

449
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 5: help me out, man.

450
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 3: Man, I just don't know what the plan is, you

451
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

452
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be like a transitional year. Yeah, you know,

453
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: we lost some big names person, I guess and Drew

454
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: right now, we got to and Jason. You know, usually

455
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: an achilles injury to take a whole year to came

456
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: back two months. Yeah, but then you know, after a

457
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 2: whole year, you know, you start getting back. I mean,

458
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: I mean we got cases of it, you know, Paul,

459
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 2: George k D. You know, they look good after they

460
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: came back from Achilly. So I'm not worried about him

461
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 2: getting back to where he was before he got hurt.

462
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: Well, I just saw JT at Pats camp. He looked

463
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: like he was walking around pretty good. Yeah, I think

464
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: you had the boot. Yeah, gotta get you, gotta get

465
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: on that TV twelve method. Have Alex over there. Mister

466
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: Miyaggi and his little his little Achilles up dog man.

467
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: We need that stuff y'all be getting in football.

468
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a little mister Mayagi, Nah that other

469
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: stuff you see the mister.

470
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: Set up a blueten on the side.

471
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: No, listen, this is basketball. Say this is what hoopers

472
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: say about the football players. The football players heal faster

473
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 2: than any humans on earth.

474
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: You want to know what?

475
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: You want to know why? Like, like why you want

476
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: to know why.

477
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: Terrell almost broke his leg and came back two weeks

478
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl because I saw Adrian Peterson tear

479
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: off his leg and come back and win a rushing title.

480
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: On two thousand yards. Two thousand yards. That's crazy. You

481
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 3: want to know what that is? What is it? I

482
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: know what it is. I know what it is. No,

483
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: you want to know the real what it is.

484
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: If you don't play, you don't get paid in football,

485
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: and there's twenty other guys they're trying to replace you

486
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: every time. In basketball, you guys guaranteed contract. So you

487
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: got a little busted ankle, you're gonna chill for a while. Man,

488
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: you have incentive to come back in football as fast

489
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: as you can because there's always there's a guy that

490
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: can replace you like that. Look at Tom Brady, he

491
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: was a six round draft pick. He replaced one hundred

492
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 1: million dollar core back, the first hundred million dollar player

493
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: of all time, Drew Bledsoe Like, that's the crazy thing.

494
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: That's really what it is. That's what it is. That

495
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 3: and probably some other stuff, Yeah, some other stuff for sure.

496
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: Hard work, determination, hard work and determination.

497
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: Is obviously a lance armstrong man.

498
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: Huh tiger bomb to na tiger bomb, Dude, tiger bomb.

499
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: It's smelling salts. Bro, they're taking those away from us.

500
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: They're doing those before the show.

501
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

502
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: I just said, y'all come back faster from the same

503
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: injury we will have. Y'all will have the same injury

504
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: and comeback months ahead.

505
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 4: No, seriously, do you think those playing surface factors are

506
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: all the fact?

507
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are jumping on hardwood floor, we're on grass.

508
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: The injury is the injury though. Yeah, but torn a

509
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: c L is a torn a CEO no matter where

510
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: you do it at.

511
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: No, but on coming back process, it's gonna be. It's

512
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: it was for me. I tore my aco. The hardest

513
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: thing for me to get back was my jumping. I

514
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: came back before I was jumping. I was exploding out,

515
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: but I didn't jump, you know what I mean, Especially

516
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: you're jumping on hard ass surface or like if I

517
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: ran on turf compared to grass that I don't know.

518
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: You guys are large ass men. You guys are like

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: eight footers, bro. It's crazy. Anytime you go to a

520
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: basketball game and you see basketball dudes in real life,

521
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: you're like, these dudes are fucking trees.

522
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody just said they're like, man, oh, I was

523
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: just you know, I was just with the other day.

524
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: I was with be Smoke. How was Marshan mar I

525
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: was my guy.

526
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just with his uh, his podcast a

527
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. He said the same thing. I

528
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: went to the game. I went to y'all games like

529
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: y'all just y'all tall as ill, he said. I was

530
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: looking up, so I had to sit up in his seat.

531
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: He didn't want to look a little bit. Yeah, be

532
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: cracking up.

533
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, which gets me to a point. Marshaan A

534
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: big guy. Me a big guy. You were born in Oakland, dog,

535
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: so that's where your clutchness comes from.

536
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: You're a hey guy dog. Yeah, I was born in Oakland.

537
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: When did you come to LA? I came to LA

538
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: when I was like eight nine years old. Oh so

539
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: you're Oakland, bro.

540
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: You try to play this LA ship, but you're You're

541
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: fucking East ninety second Street, dog, let's go.

542
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: He's ninety fortieth Avenue, East, Oakland. I lived by Freemont

543
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: High Yeah, walking distance from there. My brothers went to Freemont.

544
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: Uh. We lived around the corner from Gary Payton. Oh

545
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: my god. Yeah, we all grew up. My brothers grew

546
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: up with Gary Payton and too Short went to school.

547
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Too Short the way they went to the same school.

548
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: But that's I saw that. I was like, man, it

549
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: all comes it all makes sense now.

550
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: You know all got a bit of it of Oakland

551
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: and Inglewood and you know that's all. It's just that's

552
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 2: where my DNA is.

553
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: And a whole lot of Boston. Yeah, I got some Boston.

554
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: I was out there a long time, long time, spent

555
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: there fifteen years.

556
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: Talk to us about the the Celtics brotherhood because like

557
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: it's probably like top two organization in basketball, you guys

558
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: and Lakers forever. It's when you think about the NBA,

559
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: you think about the Boston Celtics and the and the Lakers.

560
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: And the Pelicans and who the Pelicans?

561
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: Who the Pelicans? That's the third one.

562
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they have any retired jerseys

563
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: in there. I can't even think they have no banners.

564
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: They got nothing.

565
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: They got Zion Baby for a couple of games every year.

566
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: All they need. Oh my god, the Pelicans.

567
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: But explain to us the celt like being a Celtic

568
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: is it is it something different? Like especially for an

569
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: l a kid really from the Bay. But that reps

570
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: l a then goes and plays for the Celtics.

571
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't understand the history the the brand.

572
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably the most you know, you're talking

573
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: about one of the most historical franchises. And so like,

574
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, when I first got there, you you know,

575
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: all the former players was always coming back to the games,

576
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Bill Russell and John Havliceck Coozy and stuff, and like,

577
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: you know, I would like talk to them, you know,

578
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: I had their numbers, would call them, and it is

579
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: a brotherhood.

580
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Man.

581
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: It's just like I think just Boston sports is like

582
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 2: a brotherhood when you think about it, because it's like

583
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: every franchise out there is legendary, you know what I'm saying.

584
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: It's probably I tell people that Boston is the best

585
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: sports town in all of America. Yeah, that error like

586
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: everybody won a championship in that decade, you know what

587
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's just it's different because you know,

588
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: I still stay in touch with the guys like Rondo,

589
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: and I just saw Rondo and Perk last week and

590
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: they watching their kids play AU. Tony Allen is actually

591
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: out here right now. Me and him had dinner the

592
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: other you know, me and KG. So you know, I

593
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: talked to Tatum and Brown. I talked to him a

594
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, and so it's just it's just it's different.

595
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You understand it. I

596
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: understand you lived, You was out there.

597
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: And you saw it first hand. It's not like any

598
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: other organizations, you know.

599
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: I tried to explain to people that, like, it was

600
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: almost like a competition with the other sports teams too,

601
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: because everyone was winning so goddamn much. You see the

602
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: Red Sox one something, You're like, oh, man, well we

603
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: gotta go get something, and the Celtics win something and

604
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuh, and then the Bruins go out

605
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: and win, and then we would.

606
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: Go you know what I mean.

607
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: It was just that's that is a twenty year gap

608
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: that is going to be remembered forever. Yeah, it's it's

609
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: it really is crazy. And I remember always seeing you guys.

610
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: I never saw you out because you were too big

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: time at that time, but I would see Baby Davis

612
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: and some young guys.

613
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: I would see the young guys.

614
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we will go to like the little cigar lounge.

615
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Me Kevin and the old heads will go to the ciguard.

616
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: We was never gonna be out out like that.

617
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: No, what other guys did you hang out with other

618
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: teams besides me?

619
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Uh dang, let's see. I wasn't really going out like that.

620
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: It's the thing you go out when you're young.

621
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're young, you know what I'm saying. When

622
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: I started having kids and stuff.

623
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: Small city too, Yeah, my going I was going to

624
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: y'all games or something like that, or going to the

625
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Red Side.

626
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's the crazy. I like, like, we we

627
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: all supported each other. That's what I That's what I

628
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: loved about Boston. Like I go to redsize game. Y'all

629
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: come to our games.

630
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: We go to y'all. I remember being on the field

631
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: before the game watching y'all warm up.

632
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: I was like, Damn, that's pretty dope. I like the

633
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: support we all gave each other. Oh that was fun times.

634
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: I'll see who is my boy?

635
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: Damn? What's his name?

636
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, y'all the big Will Fork, Oh Will big

637
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: Will be over there in the Celtics Jersey looking all

638
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: big right there on this up in the front road.

639
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: That was my man. He was funny. Bro.

640
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: My first day ran into the parking lot, it was

641
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: so crazy. I was there and there's a big ass

642
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: semi like a semi truck without a trailer.

643
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: That was Big V's.

644
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: He drove a semi truck without a semi like a trailer.

645
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: That was his daily driver. It was like an orange semi.

646
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: It was fucking crazy and it matched him perfect. He

647
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: get up, he'd get out in his overalls with no

648
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: shirt on and ship barbecuing. My guy, Big V's the best.

649
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: What do you think about coach Missoula? You like him?

650
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: There you go, look, look he got the jersey all

651
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: right there? Randy right there, he right there. He's out

652
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: of the game we're talking about. Yeah, and that's Randy.

653
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: And that's Randy. Yeah. Do you think Randy could have

654
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: played in the NBA? They said he was good. Yeah.

655
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: He played with white Chocolate, I think yeah.

656
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah in high school yeah, they were both uh football

657
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: and basketball.

658
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, man, he probably could. He was so athletic.

659
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: He can't fly.

660
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know why. I've been to the Celtics.

661
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 5: Jersey is hilarious. It looks awesome.

662
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: Man, he's always being I'm telling you. He would always

663
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: go he Brew there.

664
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that was fine. Missoula Missoula. Man, I love Missoula.

665
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: Dude. He fits. He fits the kind of Boston mentality.

666
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm telling you, he's he's young. I like

667
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: that he's young. He can relate to the players. You

668
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's what I think.

669
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: You know, younger than us. Yeah, he's younger than us.

670
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: He is. Yeah, he grew up watching us because he's

671
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: from Boston.

672
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: He's from uh, Rhode Island. I like from there.

673
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: He's from the area. See, that's what I like. And

674
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: the new owners he's thirty seven. Yeah, he grew up

675
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: watching us, went to West Virginia.

676
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: But I like.

677
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: I like his mentality. I like how his press conferences are.

678
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 2: He kind of liked, no nonsense type of cash. But

679
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: the players love him.

680
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

681
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great fit. He gonna be there for

682
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: a long time. I feel I like him.

683
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: I like him a lot.

684
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: How is his new ownership group.

685
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: I had a chance to meet him. Man, they seem

686
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: they from the area too, Who so, who are they

687
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: from Boston? What's their names? Bill Chisholm is the main

688
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: guy built Chisholm. Yeah, but I met him. Was cool.

689
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: He gonna still be there though for a little while.

690
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: I guess, man, but you will. Hey, you know what's

691
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: so crazy? I was like before the season, I did

692
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: a uh, I did a podcast with a live podcast

693
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: with with Wick and said, man, you're never gonna sell

694
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: the team, Like, nope, I'm never saw.

695
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: Five billion, Nope, six billion, nope. Seven bit.

696
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: End of the year he sold the team five. That's

697
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: when that when that number comes to you. Actually when

698
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: he too, he bought the team for three eighty three

699
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty million and they got sold in with

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: five six billion.

701
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do they what was the sale? Six seven?

702
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: It's like five or six. Bruce bil is a part

703
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: of it too.

704
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Bill is a part of sixty six point one

705
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: huh six point one billion?

706
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeesh.

707
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: We had Ginny Bush on right before she sold too.

708
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: She told us the same thing.

709
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, we're.

710
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: Never and Billy for the Lakers. That's wows. Yeah, well,

711
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean you know it's you notice you know what

712
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: I noticed though? Now, how like even in this is

713
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: gonna be starting to change in all sports that more

714
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: you're getting more like these family ram sports franchises getting

715
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 2: bought out by these big corporations. Yeah, groups, that's what

716
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: we're seeing now. This is the new era. Now, yeah,

717
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, just group corporations is buying these teams.

718
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Which those groups are pretty good, like look at look

719
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: at Washington Commanders.

720
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a brand new group.

721
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: They looked in and got a brand new quarterback, Jadon

722
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Daniels as a monster. Yeah, but they still went to

723
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship and changed that thing like that, just

724
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: like that.

725
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

726
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta getting lucky though, you know that. I

727
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: mean they didn't know Jane Daie was going through that.

728
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: No that that was the best rookie quarterback year in

729
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: the history of the game ever. And it's crazy because

730
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: the year two years before, Stroud was right up there

731
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: top five.

732
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, because CJ.

733
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Stroud had an insane rookie year, took into the playoffs

734
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: and got to win.

735
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, they was talking, Yeah he was

736
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: an MVP talks. I remember that c J Stroud by

737
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: week nine he was an MVP.

738
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: You got to get him back. I like CJ.

739
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: This is a big year for him. They had a

740
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: little rough year last year. They didn't have offensive line

741
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: in Houston. Last year they got Kaylee new they lost

742
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: their receivers, receivers all hurt. Yeah, all hurt? Now, are

743
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: really you you know you watch a lot of sport,

744
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: all sport, I mean you talk about it. But yeah,

745
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: of course, what are are you just going to continue

746
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: this on the podcast podcast Route? What do we got

747
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: going in the future going?

748
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Now?

749
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: I'm in talks Westling people now to do more sports

750
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: stuff because I do the one with KG, me and

751
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: him do our sports car but that's surrounded.

752
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: Which I love you guys killing.

753
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk hoops, but I'm thinking about and I

754
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: have another podcast called The Truth after Dark, where we

755
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: talk relationships with me and.

756
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: So I've been watching that one too. Hilarious.

757
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: Oh the Shack story in the club with the wheelchair,

758
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: Oh my god, unreal.

759
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: She was pretty bad and real man.

760
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think, yeah, we.

761
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: Need more Truth after Oh I love that one. Yeah man.

762
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: You know the crazy thing about that story a friend

763
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: of mine ran into her recently into her.

764
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I was wow. And she's walking now, let's go

765
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: let's go shout out to modern medicine. Yeah, that's awesome,

766
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: it is. It is awesome, Like she's walking now, this

767
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: is no.

768
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: Joke anyway, That's great, right, right, So that was crazy.

769
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: I wonder you're still going to the club now. I

770
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: don't know, fifties now though, we're not that young. No,

771
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: it's probably not. I love that had the silver lining.

772
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: That's great. So we got we got it. We can't lose.

773
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Paul in the takes, bro, I love hearing your takes,

774
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Like when you said they had no receivers for the

775
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Houston Texas.

776
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: This guy is dialed. No, I know all football, all

777
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: of that. Who's your team growing up?

778
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: My team growing up was the Raiders because I was

779
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: born in Oakland, l A. You know, they was back

780
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: and forth. I was big Bo Jackson fan. I like

781
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: the Giants to Lawrence Taylor Giants SAMs. That team was

782
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: was cracking.

783
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: That era was good though, Damn that was a crazy era. Yeah.

784
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: But my team now as like today, is the Rams.

785
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: I like the Rams. They're good this year, yeah, I

786
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: think they are. We worried about Stafford in the back

787
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: practice today. He's been thirty having with some back aches.

788
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: Man.

789
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Y'all know, y'all y'all heal quick man, Like you said,

790
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: come on, man, we already talked about it.

791
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: No, No, I like it. It's cool.

792
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Pooka is awesome. You would love pooka puka and they

793
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: got they got Adams.

794
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They gonna be all right,

795
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: didn't they? They got that. The defense is gonna be better.

796
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: They young, but they defense the.

797
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: D line was fire fire versus I think they're the

798
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: only team that could compete with Philly.

799
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: Well, they got to The quarterback has to stay healthy

800
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and anytime, like regardless when you're thirty seven years old

801
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: and you got back problems going into a season, Yeah,

802
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: like you like to go into a season at least

803
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: ninety five or higher. Yeah, once you're going in eighty eight.

804
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: Each week you're losing a percent or two until you

805
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's just how it goes in football.

806
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: Right.

807
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: So it's like nascars, who's got the best car driving

808
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: the fastest at the end of the race, Right, And

809
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: sometimes when you blow a fucking trainy, or your breaks

810
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: are out or your fuel lines fucked, you ain't got

811
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: the best car.

812
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna win the race.

813
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick breaks. Let's all right,

814
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: let's go back in a time around where the game

815
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: took place. This game took place May eighteen, two thousand

816
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: and nine. And go over some pop culture. Number one movie,

817
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: The Chronicles of Narnia Prince Caspian.

818
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: Damn, that was the number one movie. Yeah, that was.

819
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: I don't thing I ever seen that either.

820
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I hit it either. Take a Bow

821
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: by Rihanna. I listened to that. I used to love

822
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: this is Rihanna number one songs like about around this time,

823
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: iron Man forgetting Sarah Marshall, Sex and the City. We're

824
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: all popping off Sex and the City. They're DoD to

825
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: reboot with that iron Man. That thing's been going for years.

826
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: This is when it all started. The first Lil Wayne

827
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: Carter three. That was insane. I think every song on

828
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: that album was a hit millions in the first week,

829
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: back when that was a thing.

830
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: Now you it's so crazy.

831
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: The music industry since we were kids has completely changed,

832
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: and I was part of every, every all, all of

833
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: this whole change. I remember downloading Napster and getting all

834
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: these goddamn songs.

835
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: You used, all right, let me see what I sed

836
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: to use Bear Share? Oh no, it was.

837
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: Wire.

838
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: I used Live Wire. Isn't that crazy? Damn? That's why

839
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: I got all my music.

840
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: That's it.

841
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: It's so easy now. Yeah, like it was hard getting music.

842
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rip right or take all day.

843
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Or the title would be like written weird, or there'd

844
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: be some ship in the song that wasn't in the song.

845
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be a bootleg of the song. Wi Fi.

846
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: Come about wi Fi? Because that was like dial up

847
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 3: AOL AOL. It just just ended.

848
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: I heard AOL just yeah, there's no more dial up

849
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I heard. I saw it really gone. What about your

850
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: what about your no screening fiber? I'll still have an

851
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: a O L account email that rocks. What is it like, uh,

852
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Paul p the truth x x x x x x

853
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: at a o L dot com at a O L

854
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Speaker 1: my ao L x x I m was x xx

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Speaker 1: Edelman one one x x x the different. Yeah, yeah,

856
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was like a it was like

857
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Moto things back in the day.

858
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still got it to this day. I use it. Well,

859
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: we'll bleep it out.

860
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: Well, we're not gonna let you have your email out

861
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: out there. NBA Champions this year, Boston Celtics Kobe Bryant

862
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: was m v P o V was the m v

863
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Speaker 1: P of the n h L. That guy's still playing,

864
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: still playing, still playing. He's a monster. Yeah, he's probably fun.

865
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: Cool understanding.

866
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: I think he was missing some teeth though, soundy like

867
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: the hockey players.

868
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: No teeth, no teeth huh. Ever, a lot of them,

869
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot of them, Damn, they'd be taking pucks off

870
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: the dome. Bro Man sticks to sticks.

871
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Where'd you meet him?

872
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, when I played in Washington. Oh, that's right, he

873
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: came to our locker room. Cool and I had a

874
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: chance to meet him, and I went to a couple

875
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: of games though. That was the first time I went

876
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: to a hockey game when I was out there in

877
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: Washington and washing him play.

878
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: We should probably blank that out too. We don't want

879
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: the Boston people know.

880
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, you know what.

881
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: No, that was the first time I went to the

882
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: Bruins game when they went to the championship thirteen. Yeah,

883
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: I went to the finals game. Yes, I did go

884
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: to that the Bruins. That was my first hockey game.

885
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: Around this time, Ussain Bolt breaks the hundred meter world

886
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: record and ran a nine to seven to two hundred

887
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: meter Remember that he.

888
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: Let up too. He probably could have went faster. Remember

889
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: that that was fucking crazy. He lit up.

890
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: He actually revolutionized the sport. He was the first time

891
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: a big guy was the sprinter. Yeah, because then he

892
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: once he got out of the blocks, then his stride

893
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: took over for everyone and it was you know, usually

894
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: you got the little sprinters that are fucking little muscleheads.

895
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Just yeah, he was like and just gone. He made

896
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: it look easy, easy, made it look easy. Man.

897
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I was this and didn't look real.

898
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: And he had the perfect name, Bolts Perfect. He broke

899
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: his own record later this year or the next year

900
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: in Berlin. I think nine to five is still the record.

901
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: Eighty nine five eighty his own.

902
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: He broke his own record.

903
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: Insane, bro That is so gnarly for rookie years. For

904
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: some notable NBA greats, Kevin Durant and Al Horford.

905
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: We'll still in it still, both of them. Big oul man.

906
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: How about his It's been really cool to see him

907
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: reinvent himself, Yeah, and able to always produce for what

908
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: his team needs through the years. He's evolved his career, yeah,

909
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: because he used to be a banger, right.

910
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a scorer, He was an all star

911
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: in this league. And you know he just I mean,

912
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: he's just shown that you know, it's hard work and

913
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: how he's adjusted to the time because he wasn't shooting

914
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: threes when I was playing against him. No, you know,

915
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: he could probably knock down a mid range shot, but

916
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: he was mainly a guy that played in the paint.

917
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: So now the way the game has changed, you're seeing

918
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: a lot of these big man they you know, they

919
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: changing their games up.

920
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: To fit in, to fit in.

921
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: You got him, Yeah, freaking Horford.

922
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: I wonder where I was getting up this year. No,

923
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: he's not what the celtis. Yeah, they lost a lot.

924
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: What was life like for Paul Pearson two thousand and eight, which.

925
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Month before the championship or in June June after June seventeen.

926
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think we all went to Vegas.

927
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: We all flew to Vegas immediately after parade.

928
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: After parade, we all went to Vegas.

929
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: We had like the top floor the Bellagio and we

930
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: were just partying and enjoying it. It was it was good.

931
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: It was good.

932
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Just you know, everybody was like, oh, you know, I

933
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: remember us being in the in the club with like

934
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, Michael Jordan and everybody. It was like it

935
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: was crazy, like the whole Then I went to I

936
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: went to Spain that summer, I did a basketball camp

937
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: in Spain. Oh wow, that whole summer. That summer, I

938
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: spent like two weeks in Spain. Uh Madrid, Madrid, Yeah yeah,

939
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: I like Madrid. It was hot as hell, hot man,

940
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 2: But spent some time out there. I did a little

941
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: traveling and it was just like it's just you know,

942
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: that feeling of just being on top of the world.

943
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

944
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Everywhere you go, you open up the ropes, get in,

945
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: you get a seat at the restaurant, no waiting. You

946
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You know, I remember I got

947
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: a standing ovation one restaurant. They just already stood up

948
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: in started clipping. It was just like, damn, we really

949
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: did that.

950
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the champions here? What did that?

951
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: What were some of your favorite food spots in Boston?

952
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: Some of my favorite food spots? Oh man, it was

953
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: one spot. Damn.

954
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: What's that hotel right there? That was like the jail

955
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: cell Liberty, the Liberty Hotel. That restaurant in there, No, yes,

956
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: the one to the left.

957
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're talking about. That restaurant was good.

958
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: They slapped slapped. I like Stray of course, I like

959
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: Strega's not there. No more. They closed. They closed. Don't

960
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: think so, isn't I.

961
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I went to the one, the Strega that was over

962
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: like in the back bay. Wasn't there no more? Scamp

963
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Scampo the restaurant you're talking about in Liberty, right Scampo?

964
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lydia, Yeah she was good. Her restaurant was amazing.

965
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: I liked, uh where else we used to go? Oh,

966
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: oh man, what's my guy?

967
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

968
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: I forgot his name.

969
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: One of the top chefs in Boston, ming Sign his restaurant. Yeah,

970
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Blue Ginger, Yeah, that's what it's called.

971
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: Blue Ginger.

972
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: That was over off of four points, wasn't it? Or

973
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: blue Dragon?

974
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: Was that his? No, blue Ginger, Blue Ginger. I think

975
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: I didn't go to that one. Yeah, ming Si. I

976
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: used to always go to his rush. I used to

977
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: see him.

978
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: Well, yes, yeah, it was called blue Ginger, right, Yes,

979
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: his his blue dragon.

980
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah in Boston, Yeah, yeah, blue drag dragons both clothes now,

981
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: but yeah, okay was four points?

982
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

983
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: I used to go to his spots. Those those were

984
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: some good spots. I like those. And then I'll go

985
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: get my clam chowder from like Atlantic Fish or something,

986
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: get the bread bowl.

987
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: I like that. Yankees Lobster or the Yanks.

988
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: The Yankee place over there all the way at the

989
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: end of all the way, and yeah past uh the

990
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: music Hall, there's that little shack. They had some good

991
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: ass like fried seafood. Just how crazy has has Boston

992
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: changed since we, like even since we were I was there,

993
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: you were there ten years before me. Yeah.

994
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they built it up. I mean you're seeing all

995
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: the new developments around there, the new skyline, new skyline

996
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: for sure, the back bay, the whole seaport.

997
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they built that up. Gone.

998
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that used to be where like Whitey

999
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: Bulger were just burying people.

1000
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: Now it's hell, that's what they used to do. I

1001
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: watched the movies. I watched Black Bess. That's what Jody did.

1002
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into this game, Jackie, break us

1003
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: down to these gaves real quick.

1004
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys went forty.

1005
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 5: Five and thirty seven or third year under Mike Brown

1006
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: still coaching Nicks. Now, this was Lebron's fifth year in

1007
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: the league. He was All Star Game MVP, he won

1008
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 5: the scoring title average thirty eight game, I mean, carried

1009
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: this team as he as he did in that air

1010
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: and pretty much every era they were fresh off a

1011
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: finals loss to the San Antonio Spurs got swept. This

1012
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: was also a big year for a mid season shakeup.

1013
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 5: Tried to do something to get over that hump and

1014
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: get back to the finals. Got Ben Wallace from Chicago,

1015
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 5: got Wally's herback from Seattle, Joe Smith from Chicago, Andante

1016
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 5: West from Seattle to try to get a little get

1017
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: little juice to a midseason We do.

1018
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: You remember about this Cavs team, Man, it was just.

1019
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: What I remember it was. It was Lebron.

1020
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: They had some pretty good players though. I remember Delante

1021
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: and Boobie Gibson.

1022
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: And Booby Yeah, Larry Hughes. Yeah.

1023
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: They had Oskas who was an All Star. He became

1024
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: an All Star if he wasn't this year. But that

1025
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: was pretty much. It was Lebron as they as Lebron went,

1026
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: they went, yep, you know, that's pretty much what was it.

1027
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: We felt like if we could slow him down or

1028
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: whatever or minimize the other guys, we would beat them.

1029
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Now, this is his fourth year in the league or.

1030
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: Fifth fifth, his fifth year in the league.

1031
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old. Yeah, like, just explain to

1032
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: the listener how athletic he was. Like if you I

1033
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: was watching him takeing on you you took on like everyone.

1034
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: You guys had to have a plan to stop this

1035
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: guy because he was a fucking absolute beast in there.

1036
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: Like he's just show athletic, so strong and wrong. His

1037
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: strength was insane, Like how he got up.

1038
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just I mean obviously you know when

1039
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: you look at him and just he's a physical specimen.

1040
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: He's built like a power forward, but playing guard, you

1041
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like and if he if he

1042
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: was born ten years earlier, he probably would have been

1043
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: a power forward.

1044
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: You know, like the same size as Ben Wallace.

1045
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Everybody knows who Ben Wallace, how big he was, a

1046
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: strong or athletic he was, and he played the guard

1047
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: and the way he could move was just like something

1048
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: that you really didn't see from God's his size.

1049
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1050
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: The athleticism, the IQ, all of that, and you know,

1051
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: and you know he he had a lot of pressure

1052
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: coming in into the league, you know, and he lived.

1053
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: He's lived up to every bit of.

1054
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: It he has, you know what I'm saying.

1055
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: The hype, Yeah, he had the most hype out of anyone.

1056
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: Got anybody saw we all saw the hummer in high school. St.

1057
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 3: John's what was it, Saint John's St. Vincent.

1058
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember I wasn't ken at that time.

1059
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: I was in Ohio. When he got drafted the Celtics

1060
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: or the Calves, I went Chapel Hill and bought a

1061
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: shoe's he's young, dude. Now, what's the difference between Calves

1062
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: Lebron and heat Lebron? Is there a difference?

1063
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: Way different?

1064
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: And currently I thought he was faster, stronger, better when

1065
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: he got to Miami.

1066
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: He just kept on getting better. Yeah.

1067
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: It was crazy because I remember sitting because I sat

1068
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: out the first game we played him in Miami, I believe,

1069
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: And I was just watching and I was like, I

1070
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: couldn't believe how it looked like he was a faster,

1071
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: stronger player at the time because he got under the Spostra,

1072
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: which is like Pat Raleigh. That's like a no. They

1073
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: don't mess around in that camp. They like, you gotta

1074
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: be in major shape, you gotta hit certain goals. It

1075
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: was like probably the strictest, most disciplined team in the

1076
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: NBA at the time, the way they ran their camp.

1077
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: Just from the former players that played there, you know,

1078
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: it was just like, dang, he got under that and

1079
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 2: so it looked like he got even better.

1080
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: I think that's peak Lebron for.

1081
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: Me, peak Lebron's peat, heat Lebron.

1082
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's peak Lebron. I believe heat

1083
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 2: Lebron's peak.

1084
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: It's still pretty impressive that he's still gone, Yeah, it is.

1085
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1086
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean two years ago he was still the best

1087
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: player in the Olympics. Yeah that was only two years

1088
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: a year ago or you know what I mean.

1089
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: I mean he's still averaging twenty five crazy at forty

1090
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: years old.

1091
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: How do you defend Lebron? Like when you had to

1092
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: go against.

1093
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: Him, Man, you just really gotta like give him different

1094
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: type of looks. Sometimes you gotta pressure, sometimes you gotta

1095
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: like and then he just got to hope his jumper

1096
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: wasn't falling because he didn't have a consistent jumper early on,

1097
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: you know, so like you would go underscreens, you would

1098
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: just try to stop him from getting easy layups, getting

1099
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: on transition and just hope his jumper that day wasn't falling.

1100
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: It was hit our miss. Yeah, you know, like it

1101
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: ain't like certain guys like you can't let Durrant shoot

1102
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: you can't let Curry shoot, whereas like like now Lebron

1103
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: has developed more of a consistent jumper. But then Cleveland Lebron,

1104
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: it was hit our miss what his jumper?

1105
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: That's usual.

1106
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it goes in the basketball. Early on,

1107
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: guys rely on their athleticism and then they learned to shoot. Yeah,

1108
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Like look at Jordan, I mean he learned to shoot,

1109
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: but like he was still he wasn't early in his career.

1110
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: I felt like he was just out athleticism meaning everyone.

1111
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just the best athlete in the league.

1112
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, he still had that game winner

1113
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: at n SEE and he's still shooting stuff, but he

1114
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: he didn't feel the learn or the feel of the

1115
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: game until like you know, you get a couple of

1116
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: those years in you yeah, which is I think in

1117
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: any pro sport. The more like that fifth year, that

1118
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: sixth year, seventh year, those are like your prime yeers

1119
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: because your athleticism and your knowledge they're at the same peak.

1120
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: After that, then your athleticism could be dying, your knowledge

1121
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: could be going up, right, But you know that seven

1122
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: year mark, it's like we're like you become man strength,

1123
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: you hit your man you've got some reps.

1124
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: Right, I Q keep getting better. I Q some of us.

1125
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, Now, who are some of the favorite

1126
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: guys that you used to like battling against.

1127
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: I like battling against Bron obviously. I like playing against

1128
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 2: t mac Vince, Carter cob I like to play against

1129
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: Cold because I had to show out when I went

1130
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: to LA to play against him.

1131
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: You're going home here, I'm going home.

1132
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: H But like, the perimeter was tough when I was

1133
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: in our era because like just then, for along, when

1134
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 2: you talk about Cove, mac Vince, three of the most

1135
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: athletic players you ever gonna see in life, and then

1136
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Lebron comes along, and it's just like the position just

1137
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: kept keeps getting better, uh than Kevin Durant, Carmelo, and

1138
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, damn, I didn't get no days

1139
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: off at the perimeter. Now at my position, it was

1140
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: like every night it was somebody that's a that's an

1141
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: NBA baby. Yeah, what's you got a good Kobe story

1142
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: that you've never told?

1143
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: I think I told him all man. Oh man.

1144
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: Now Kobe was cool though, you know, we didn't hang,

1145
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: you know, like that, but we run into each other.

1146
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: You know in the summertime especially, you know, we played

1147
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: pick up at UCLA, and you know, it's just he

1148
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: was just different. You know, his demeanor was just way

1149
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: more different than everybody. Like even like I've seen him

1150
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: in the club one time. He was just standing in

1151
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: the corner and I'm just like, you know, damn serious,

1152
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: like like it was serious. It's like and he had

1153
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: like some sweats on, like he was ready to go

1154
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: to the gym. But I was just like, and I'm

1155
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: older than him too. And this was like one of

1156
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: our first three years. He was just like, man, be

1157
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: careful out here. And I was just like, what, Like,

1158
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: I've been going out longer than you.

1159
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You're telling me, and I'm

1160
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: from here telling me to.

1161
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: Just be careful in here. It's like, what you mean?

1162
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: I know the landscape, Paul. He was talking to me

1163
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 2: like I was his little brother.

1164
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: Though.

1165
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, all right, all right, man,

1166
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: you got it. That's just who he was.

1167
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: That's who he was.

1168
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was like, damn, I'm I'm older

1169
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: than you, man, I'm like a big brother to you.

1170
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: He was like, it should be careful in here.

1171
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: Bro, Where did you develop the uh the Paul Pierce

1172
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: arm out chest up, look this after you shoot.

1173
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe from getting No, that's it right there,

1174
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 2: that's it.

1175
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: That's that's up. That develop at the U c l

1176
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: A pick up courts.

1177
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: I think that developed like probably at the park growing up,

1178
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: because you have to be ready to fight.

1179
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: So like that's what you look like after any time

1180
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: you sunk a big bucket, like come get some right now?

1181
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: What was your ship talking? Game? Like?

1182
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: It depends on who the player was, you know, if

1183
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: I if I, if I don't like them, it's levels

1184
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: to it.

1185
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Now are you doing research on the levels to it?

1186
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: Like would you find out like some dirt on them?

1187
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't that. It wasn't that diabolical.

1188
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: I'd just be like, you know, really, you be just

1189
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: talking about the dude, the dude's paycheck or something.

1190
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: If you a lot of that, go to the heart. Yeah,

1191
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: you go to the heart.

1192
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: Man, you're over here, you minimum wage over there like something.

1193
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it'll hit him though. Check

1194
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: the resumes, like turn around, what's your name again? Like

1195
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: you know know, like oh I forgot your name? It

1196
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: be like little stuff like that. Like, man, you average

1197
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: four points, this is probably your last basket of the night,

1198
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: like something like you know, I say stuff like that,

1199
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 2: he go score four points in the first two minutes.

1200
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, he's done for the day.

1201
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 2: Something like that.

1202
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the coolest thing about sitting court

1203
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: side at a basketball game. You get to see Like

1204
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: you don't get to hear the ship talking really in

1205
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: football because you're so far. Yeah yeah you could hear

1206
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: like I would sit and watch Paul get under underdudes,

1207
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: freaking get underdudes, just get them all pissed off, just

1208
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: with like little ship yeah stuff. It just like check

1209
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: the resume after you hear it. Check the resume with

1210
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: this little pump.

1211
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: I remember one time I forgot the player though.

1212
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: Man he was he was on the perimeter and I

1213
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: was guarding him, and I just turned around and like, man, gohea,

1214
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: just shoot that.

1215
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the rebound.

1216
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: Like just then he had the ball still, you know

1217
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He still had the ball. Man, he

1218
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: was so pissed because he couldn't shoot. Oh man, I

1219
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: remember it. Damn I forget the guy's name. Man ah,

1220
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: let's just turned around like Magohey, shoot, you got.

1221
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: It all right, Jackie get into Celtics.

1222
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 5: Did we get into these Celtics? The boot two Celtics

1223
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 5: the first year of the Big Three. The Celtics had

1224
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 5: said we're not going back to twenty four and fifty eight,

1225
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: maybe sixty six and sixteen. This is Paul, This is Cagey,

1226
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: this is ray An, this is Big Baby Rondo, Rondo,

1227
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 5: Young Rondo is Eddy House with the hot socks.

1228
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: PJ.

1229
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: Brown, I mean Leon Poe. This was This is the

1230
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 5: biggest single season turnaround in NBA history. I mean, like

1231
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 5: twenty and two start to the season jelled right away,

1232
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: started off with an Italy trip that brought these guys together.

1233
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: Kevin Garnett Defensive Player of the Year, best defensive rating

1234
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: in the NBA, third, most wins in Celtics history.

1235
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean the list goes on and on. Now, when

1236
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: did you guys know that the team is going to

1237
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: be special? In Italy? Eating a couple We knew early, though,

1238
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: we did. We knew early.

1239
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: We was like because I remember we got to Boston

1240
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: early and we started playing pickups together. You know, we

1241
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: was already there like a month before camp, and so

1242
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: then we went to UH for camp.

1243
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: We went to Italy.

1244
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean I was one of the hardest I mean,

1245
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: most like intense camps I ever been a part of Italy.

1246
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: In Italy, I mean because it was like first team

1247
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: verse second team was like a battle every single day.

1248
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about ship talking. You talking about dogs and

1249
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: our we are young guys. Was dogs, Like when you

1250
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: talk about Eddie House, Posy, Leon pol Big. They they

1251
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: wasn't playing around. They wasn't playing around.

1252
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: From Berkeley.

1253
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember seeing Leon Poe when I was a

1254
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: kid at a hoop it Up tournament. Yeah, at the

1255
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Oakland Coliseum. Leon Poe came in. Is like McDonald's basketball.

1256
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: He had his McDonald's because he was on the high

1257
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: school McDonald's team.

1258
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I saw him when I was like

1259
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: twelve years old. I was like, man, Leon po.

1260
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 5: This is the second year on the season, second year

1261
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 5: in the league. A young guy making plays though.

1262
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah dog man, Yeah we have some dogs. So we

1263
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: knew early.

1264
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: Explain this Italy trip, what do you guys?

1265
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: What was what was that like?

1266
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: Man, I was like more like bonding. Yeah, you know

1267
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. In Italy, we went to Rome. Yeah,

1268
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: we went to Rome. So we were just like every day,

1269
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, we have practice. We'd just be kicking it

1270
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: at like in the lobby, restaurant or something outside, eating

1271
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: and stuff, playing the cars together, or go for the walk.

1272
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: I remember we all walked to the to the Travy Fountain. Yeah,

1273
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: we all went there and we just did everything together.

1274
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: Though.

1275
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: Did you all throw a little are in there and say, hey,

1276
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: well win the championship this year if they got through something,

1277
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: did you we can credit sixty six to sixteen to

1278
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: the tripe?

1279
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: Is real? Yeah, it's real. It works.

1280
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: They collect like a million dollars from that thing of day.

1281
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: I think, so something crazy, stat I think there I

1282
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 1: went recently. I was in Rome a few weeks ago.

1283
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh nice, million days crazy Now they don't collect them ever.

1284
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: Now I have been through some money in there a couple.

1285
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: I'd have been around like three times.

1286
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: That's gotta be fun.

1287
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 4: You would need four million quarters for a million dollars.

1288
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a year, Okay, that's probably better. Maybe it's

1289
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: a year, a million a year, Yeah, because they collect that.

1290
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think so.

1291
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: You guys go to Italy, Yeah, eat a bunch of pasta,

1292
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: go and walks, you play phenomenoes in the streets. You're

1293
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: you're having fun. You come back training camps over you

1294
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: guys start twenty and two.

1295
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, rolling, rolling, rolling.

1296
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Sum up with this generation in this era of the

1297
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: Celtics were becoming because of that little trip in Italy

1298
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, because you guys are like the

1299
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: most dominant defensive basketball team.

1300
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we was. We was.

1301
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: It was all you know, that's KG though. You know

1302
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: he was just like he set the tone on the

1303
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: defense end, and you know how tense he is. Yeah,

1304
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: so if he wasn't playing no defense, he's gonna get

1305
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: in your face. He gonna man, you know, he know,

1306
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: switting and talking and he just spit coming out of

1307
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: his mouth.

1308
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: Beat you up.

1309
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1310
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: He gonna hurt some feelings over there.

1311
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna hurt feelings on his own team. You need that,

1312
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: you need a Nashole. Yeah, I was like a little

1313
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: bit like that. He gonna hurt some feeling on a

1314
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: very minute level compared to him.

1315
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: So you know that that's the reason for a good start,

1316
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: I want to say, because it was just like a

1317
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: he set the tone the culture. We're gonna be a

1318
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: defensive team every night. No matter what the offense was

1319
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna be about. Because when you look, nobody had like

1320
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: killer stats like you see today, like somebody averaging thirty

1321
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, but we was just we prided ourselves on

1322
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: being a defensive team, and you know, that's who we were.

1323
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: And they just set the tone for like, this is

1324
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: the culture we bring in, this is who we are,

1325
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: this is our identity. You know, to win, you got

1326
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: to have a certain type of identity. You know, that

1327
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: was ours. You know, so when you look at all

1328
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: championship teams, you could say, oh, that team was that's

1329
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: what they was about.

1330
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: Now how was Ray?

1331
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: Ray was cool? I mean you know Ray had a

1332
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: different type. Our personalities was all kind of different. Yeah.

1333
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1334
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: I would say, like out of us three, Ray was

1335
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: the most like I would like He'll say, he's like

1336
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: more of like the philosopher of the three of us,

1337
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1338
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: The voice of more reason.

1339
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like if it was chaos, you know,

1340
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: he'll be the calm. Yeah, you know, because there was

1341
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: a lot of chaos on this team when you look

1342
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: at the names. I mean, we we had a lot

1343
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: of chaos. He was mature, Yeah, yeah, for sure, you

1344
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: know he always say, you know, center this locker.

1345
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: Leg cross like he's professional.

1346
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely the professional. Yeah, you know, and you know,

1347
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: whenever his opinion came into play, he just was like,

1348
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, this is what I feel. Uh, you know,

1349
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: not too high, not too low, you know what I'm saying,

1350
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: just kind of more even kill guy. Yeah, he was

1351
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: already like the eat and kill guy most of the time.

1352
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, which kind of come spits off his game. Yeah,

1353
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: that's what he That's how he plays. Even kill yeah,

1354
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: even killing that corner. Now, do you have a relationship

1355
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: with Danny Ainge?

1356
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: Uh?

1357
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Danny was cool.

1358
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him in a while though, but uh,

1359
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: we had a good relationship. Actually, you know we would

1360
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: talk in the summertime.

1361
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember I came and I trained the

1362
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: Celtics when I was rehabbing my knee, and this guy

1363
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: would always like it was like he was competing with

1364
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: me when he was talking to me. With you. While

1365
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: he was talking, yeah, he's like, so what do you

1366
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, what do you guys do here? I'm like,

1367
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: just yeah, dude, I'm just here to try to get

1368
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: my knee right.

1369
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: Dude.

1370
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: But you could just tell that he fucking loved basketball.

1371
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: He was always trying to think about what he could

1372
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: do to make it better.

1373
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just who he was.

1374
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 5: Man.

1375
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 3: Danny fought a lot too. He fought a lot, man.

1376
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: People got to go to YouTube and watch Danny and

1377
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: his fights. He was always getting into the fight.

1378
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: Always scrappy, Yeah he was.

1379
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: He was scrappy.

1380
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: People hated Danny, but he was scrappy.

1381
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: So was with KG.

1382
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: Was there ever a time that you had to settle

1383
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: him down, like he almost like beat up another guy? Man?

1384
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't gonna lie mane it. We was on the plane,

1385
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: we had a team meeting, you know, team and this

1386
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: is the next year. KG was hurt this year, so

1387
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: this is the year after we won the championship.

1388
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1389
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: At some point it was like a disconnect between the

1390
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: older guys and the younger guys on the team. And

1391
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: then I remember Kendrick Perkins has said something.

1392
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1393
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: All I know, we all was on the plane, all

1394
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: the coaches was on the bus because we was all

1395
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: kind of clear the air, and Perk says something that

1396
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: turned on another switch of evil to KG. And I'm

1397
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: sitting here, say Perkin, is right there and Kevin is

1398
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: walking over to get in his face, and I thought

1399
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: he was going to kill Perk, like for real, kill him,

1400
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: alive him, Like I saw.

1401
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: It in his eyes and it.

1402
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: Was just the most intense moment that we had to

1403
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: get in between him and I never and I've been

1404
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: around KG for a minute, and I'm like, I've never

1405
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: seen this look. I thought he was really gonna kill

1406
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: Perk over with his bare hands because you saw, like,

1407
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, Kevin was heard and going.

1408
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: Through it because he couldn't play right now. And then Perk.

1409
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: I forget what he exactly said, but it was something

1410
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: that was like shouldn't have been said, and he was

1411
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: he would have unallied them if, like, if we didn't

1412
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: jump in the middle of that.

1413
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, and that happens between the brothers, Yeah, that happens.

1414
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: People don't realize we all tried to fight each other

1415
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Many try to make anything

1416
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: crazy out of that. Everyone out there. Shit happens all

1417
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: the time, trying to fight each other's teammates. That's what

1418
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: makes team good, bro.

1419
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 5: My money be on KG versus a Bear Anything Man

1420
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 5: by Azilion by a zillion KG. My Mommy's always on KG.

1421
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: You never seen a man's intensity that high that that

1422
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: He yelled, and it was in his face. It was

1423
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: yelling like.

1424
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: Like I mean, Vane started coming out, started sweating. We're

1425
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: gonna killed ilmost hold on, we gotta, we gotta get

1426
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: off the plane, y'all.

1427
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was intense.

1428
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh what's Doc saying when this has all happened?

1429
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: He was all, all the coaches, Well, this was a

1430
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: team meeting.

1431
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: On the plane. Players all, Yeah, this was players only.

1432
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 3: This happened, Yeah, this happens. Yeah, do you guys ever

1433
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: have those jewels?

1434
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh? We had players only means we had players.

1435
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, players only.

1436
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: Is like, that's bad. That's not good. When players only

1437
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: mean it's being.

1438
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: Called you gotta you gotta like because you gotta air

1439
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: out some stuff.

1440
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: That means ship is not going well. So ship wasn't

1441
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: going well on this plane flight. Probably got their ass

1442
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 1: kicked the night before. KG wasn't playing PERK probably bumped

1443
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: up and said, hey man, you ain't playing bro, and

1444
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: then KG wanted to kill him. That's exactly what happens,

1445
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: and the players only meaning.

1446
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you might end up on the no fly list.

1447
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 4: How did the players mean to get called it's like

1448
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 4: a captain's like players on the meeting or like what

1449
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 4: what goes down with that?

1450
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's like, man, we all need

1451
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 2: to holler they come from Let's don't come from somebody.

1452
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't call some player meanings like man,

1453
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 2: let's chop it because you you can't call you just

1454
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: can't like players meeting means this is serious. You know

1455
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You ain't gonna just call a player's meeting.

1456
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: There going to be certain guys to call players on.

1457
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: Certain guys can call it right. You can't be you

1458
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: can't be.

1459
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: Any just slam Jack, Joe and Harry.

1460
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: Shut up, like right right.

1461
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this was a bunch needed meeting and it

1462
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 2: was something I had to do with the disconnect. It

1463
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: was you know what this meeting was about though, This

1464
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: was about some like kind of like off the court

1465
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: type of issues. Yeah, this was like some of some

1466
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 2: of the sometimes most of the time it's on the

1467
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 2: quarter or on the field issues. This was about some

1468
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: off the court issues. Actually you know that I can't

1469
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: really really get into, but you know.

1470
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: But we all have them. But we all have we

1471
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: all have them right. How is your young Rondo? Was

1472
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 3: he quiet?

1473
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: He seems quiet and just kind of like always just

1474
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: dishing you guys the ball just to.

1475
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah Rondo, Yeah, he quiet, but he will yell. Yeah.

1476
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: Rondo is fiery though. Rondo is spicy and you wouldn't

1477
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: even know it. He got some spice to him. He

1478
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: went to KJU University, low key yeah, like for real,

1479
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: we always say that.

1480
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: How do you get accepted to that university?

1481
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 3: I mean you know what he.

1482
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: Pulled, pulled, He pulled him under his wing and he

1483
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: went to KJU University. So he got a lot of

1484
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: that in him too, just on a low key Moore side,

1485
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: like a lot behind closed doors. Yeah, oh, man, telling

1486
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: you Rondo is a problem.

1487
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: How was my dog Sam Kassel sound good?

1488
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: That's my man, me saying that was my That was

1489
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 2: my you know, that was my ROADI so like we

1490
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: go on the road, me and him out.

1491
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 3: Oh take this.

1492
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: I can only imagine Sam used to kick it back

1493
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: in the day out here in La You'd be going

1494
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: to the bungalow and stuff.

1495
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah that's my man. Well awesome, dude.

1496
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why that was my roadie. If we're just

1497
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: gonna do something that's gonna be in me and him.

1498
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: We'll go out to the restaurant, lounge or some cigar.

1499
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: So who's in the roadies? If you have a roadie

1500
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: on the team, Yeah, who's your Who are your roadies?

1501
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: Sam was my roady. Uh, Tony Allen was my roadies.

1502
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: Road It was mainly the older guys, so older Rondo

1503
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: and them, they had they you know, they little crew,

1504
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: Rondo and Perk and went out and they did their

1505
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: things together.

1506
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1507
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: They you know, asked for cold tea at the Chinese restaurant.

1508
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: Remember was that one restaurant we all used to go

1509
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: to after the club.

1510
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1511
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: Uh, and you ask for cold t they give you

1512
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: beer after two.

1513
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: Downtown, right, Yeah, you know I'm not talking about you're

1514
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: talking about.

1515
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: I used to see Big Baby in there all the

1516
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: time taking down hell of motherfreaking dim. I saw the

1517
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: dude eating some dim some one night.

1518
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 3: I was like, big dude, Yeah, oh man, that's funny.

1519
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: Best road cities, the best road city. Yeah, I think

1520
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: for me, Miami.

1521
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say Toronto, Toronto.

1522
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 3: I love Toronto.

1523
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was like because I just

1524
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: felt like when you went to Toronto, you went to Canada,

1525
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 2: you didn't feel like you.

1526
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: Had to look over your shoulder for nothing.

1527
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: Like you know, people wasn't robbing people in some of

1528
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: these big cities.

1529
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: The ain't looking for athletes looking. You know what I'm saying.

1530
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: You guys can't hide.

1531
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like Toronto was different. You didn't never have

1532
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: that feeling there. And then the culture is a lot different.

1533
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: It's all races and they got great food yea, and

1534
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: nobody just it just it just felt safe.

1535
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 5: You know.

1536
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: I love Toronto. It was on the water. It was pretty,

1537
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: especially in the springtime.

1538
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh Toronto. Yeah, I like tomorrow.

1539
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break. All right,

1540
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: let's jump into the game, Jackie.

1541
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 5: Leading up to this one set in the stage Celtics

1542
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 5: with a one seed, Cleveland was the four seed. The

1543
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 5: Seeds were just coming off a tough, tough series with

1544
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 5: Atlanta Paul and young Al Horford going back and forth

1545
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 5: a little John in that one, but went to seven games,

1546
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 5: but toughened up the Seeds for this this Cleveland series.

1547
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 5: Cleveland b Washington four to two to get us up

1548
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 5: to Game seven. Here the season went up to nothing.

1549
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 5: Cleveland responded, tied it to to season, went up three

1550
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 5: to two, couldn't close it out on the road back

1551
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 5: in Cleveland forces the game seven, which brings us to

1552
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: the game we are here to talk about today, and

1553
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 5: a little bit on the star power in the building

1554
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 5: before we get it going. Vince will Ford court side,

1555
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 5: Kevin Fault court side, Randy Moss court side, Tom Brady,

1556
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 5: Tom Brady not a bat for star power later on.

1557
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 5: Keep that in mind, this thing is stars dounny. And

1558
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 5: another stat of note, the Celtics were undefeated at home

1559
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,520
Speaker 5: in the playoffs seven and zero.

1560
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 3: Meanwhile the Calves oh and five in Boston. Five in Boston.

1561
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 5: So just a little something to uh keep in mind.

1562
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 5: This was the one of the lowest scoring series in

1563
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 5: NBA history. I mean, just grind it out and that

1564
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 5: was apparent from the start of this game. The first quarter, physical,

1565
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 5: low scoring, Paul's getting going, puts on a clinical first quarter.

1566
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 5: Lebron a little slow to gets started, gets going in

1567
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 5: the second, but the season kind of all first half

1568
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 5: maintaining that ten plus point lead, never could break it open,

1569
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: never really like kind of him at five to seven

1570
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 5: to twelve, like back and forth. Cleveland was shooting thirty

1571
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 5: three percent midway through the second, but still hanging around

1572
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 5: with a you don't let me down five or seven.

1573
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 5: And when you got a guy like Lebron, that's nothing

1574
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: gets us to halftime. Paul gets a little banged up

1575
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 5: before the half wheelchair though no wheelchair, no wheelchair needed,

1576
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: falls on the camera.

1577
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: Man, Hits, I mean I swear like Paul and Paul

1578
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: you used to fall sometimes.

1579
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, you fall so ugly sometimes, Bro,

1580
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: every time you fall, I'm like, I get like you

1581
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 1: get You're gonna bruise your tailbow and you fall straight

1582
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: on your butt?

1583
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: Real, yeah, come on, man, protect your.

1584
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: Still feeling those falls. My elbows are cooked.

1585
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,959
Speaker 1: I used to have these what they call them societies

1586
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: versus societies and both my what a like? And you

1587
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: went eleven for twelve on free throw which is crazy

1588
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: that the line was big when teams need it, which

1589
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: you don't see your guys. I don't see guys doing

1590
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: that anymore as much. What is your mindset going into

1591
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: a game?

1592
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 3: Go on? And so it depends on what they like?

1593
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: All right, what's your mindset going into this game?

1594
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: Seven? Man?

1595
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: My whole mindset was like, man, I remember riding. I

1596
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: was like, man, we want we the favorite. You know

1597
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, this could be one of the biggest,

1598
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: most disappointing seasons ever in the history.

1599
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 3: And I'm like, there's no.

1600
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 2: Way I'm going home today, Like I don't care, Like

1601
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 2: I was just there's no way I'm going home today.

1602
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: So I came out there like it's not happening. So

1603
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: I just tried to set the tone. I was just

1604
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: like that was just my mindset. I got to the arena,

1605
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: like the game was at like seven or eight. I

1606
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: got to the arena that day at like three o'clock.

1607
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't nobody there, and I just had my mind

1608
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: made up shooting. Yeah, I was shooting. I was getting

1609
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 2: there early just because like once you get to a

1610
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 2: game seven, you already know how a team gonna play.

1611
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: You, you know, you.

1612
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: Know everything about them, and so I'm already knowing what

1613
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: kind of holes and gaps I'm gonna get and where

1614
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: I could score at, Like you've like they've thrown everything

1615
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: at you, so now you figured it out. And so

1616
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: I just was like going over what I was gonna

1617
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: do for the game and the shots I was gonna

1618
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: get and the shots they was gonna give me, and

1619
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: I was just going to be aggressive with them. And

1620
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: you know, I came out aggressive getting to those spots

1621
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: and I was just like, in a way, we're going

1622
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: home today, and I tried to set the tone.

1623
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, that Game seven reminds me of like a

1624
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: fourth quarter for us in a in an elimination game. Yeah,

1625
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: because like what you just said, we kind of know

1626
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: how the game has been declared. You know what they're doing.

1627
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: We know what we can do to beat that. We

1628
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: have to Actually, it's all about execution at that point.

1629
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Who's gonna shoot that?

1630
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: Right? You're right, it's like a forty eight minute fourth quarter.

1631
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: It's forty eight minute fourth quarter, That's what it is. Yeah,

1632
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: there's no Yeah, no.

1633
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: Secrets rings up with the smoke in the building, the

1634
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: old first half is looked like, No, that was the pyrotechnic.

1635
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 2: No, you know, our introduction was doing the fire and

1636
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: all of that. Yeah, they didn't have the the.

1637
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: License system wasn't that good still, you know, so they

1638
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 3: bet they borrowed us from doing that the following year though,

1639
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: because it was always smoky before the games.

1640
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 5: Always Mike Briton had to get on the telegas like,

1641
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 5: nothing's wrong with your TV sports fans.

1642
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 3: Crazy crazy.

1643
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 5: At the half we get to the half, Paul takes

1644
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 5: that nasty fall, but it's all right. Hurts a thigh

1645
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: a little bit. But at the half Paul and Lebron

1646
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 5: both have over half their team's points. Paul's got twenty six,

1647
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 5: Lebron with twenty three. The Seeds are up fifty to

1648
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 5: fortyeth a half, feeling good.

1649
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 3: Up ten. Damn I didn't realize it. So six out

1650
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: of a half?

1651
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 5: What do you?

1652
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1653
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,839
Speaker 1: You you're you were killing going. You had like seventeen

1654
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, adn't you or something pouring it

1655
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:39,839
Speaker 1: in sixteen?

1656
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was my That was that was like, look,

1657
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: I want to set the tone like, no, this ain't happened. Man.

1658
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: You love that little corner spot right by the top.

1659
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: Of the the free throw, don't you the elbow the elbow? Yeah,

1660
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1661
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: No, I know the elbow spot because you you and

1662
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: Lebron went back and forth like three different times and

1663
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: you shimmy them twice. They hit that elbow like rating

1664
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: that elbow area.

1665
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my spot. That was your spot.

1666
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I can get there, I can get a

1667
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: good shot off always, but they have to respect me

1668
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: driving all the way, so they backing up, backing up.

1669
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: Once I get right there, I'm comfortable taking that shot.

1670
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: That was like my go to shots.

1671
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: See, that's what the players today like.

1672
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: They don't really have go to shots like I can

1673
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: go to this because a lot of my game winners

1674
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 2: was those shots right there at the elbow because I

1675
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: knew that's where I want to get. But if you

1676
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 2: get on what, get all the way up on me,

1677
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go right by you. Yeah, And so

1678
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: I've always set it up like I'm driving.

1679
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: Though, now you guys are battling. You guys have three

1680
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: minutes to go, and they start catching up. What are

1681
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: you feeling in the final three minutes of that game

1682
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: when like, you guys are going back, they were kind

1683
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: of creeping on you.

1684
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1685
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: But the good thing we had close games during the year,

1686
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: so we didn't panic. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1687
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: you don't panic. So we like, we knew how we

1688
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: want to execute. We knew who the ball, who's hands

1689
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: it was gonna be in between me Kevin down the stretch.

1690
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: You know, we knew what we wanted to do. Uh,

1691
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: And that's the beauty when you on these good, great teams,

1692
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: you know what the end of the game looks like

1693
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: already you know what I'm saying.

1694
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 3: And it's just like no panic.

1695
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: Were in the time out, We're like, all right, we're

1696
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: gonna do this. We didn't been here before in the

1697
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 2: close games. We know what we're doing close games.

1698
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: And so were you in the zone? Yeah? I was

1699
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 3: in the zone for sure, because.

1700
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: Like I when anyone plays organized basketball, there's one time

1701
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: in your life where you're in the zone.

1702
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: I remember once, I think it.

1703
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Was sophomore year Woodside High School. We were playing at Jefferson.

1704
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: I had like six threes. I had a couple of

1705
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: jumpers I couldn't miss. Yeah, that was in high school.

1706
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: You're in the zone in the NBA right here that

1707
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: Were you in the zone?

1708
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure? How many times have you been in

1709
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: the zone. I've been in the zone a lot, a lot.

1710
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, are you just a zoner? No? I mean, man,

1711
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: I've been in the zone a lot.

1712
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 1: Like do you know when you're in the zone, you

1713
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: feel it, You're like I can't miss.

1714
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when you're in the zone. It's so surreal.

1715
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is.

1716
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: It's surreal because even after this game, I went home.

1717
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: And you shot like you're remote into like the basket and.

1718
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 3: You got like a donut. You threw it in my

1719
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 3: shoulder and it just went in.

1720
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys, some of you guys, you guys

1721
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: shoot so goddamn good. Probably I think about that when

1722
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: I shoot trashing, I go, man, there's like Paul Pierce

1723
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: is like these pro basketball players could probably shoot this

1724
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: from anywhere in the house. Probably, so some of us, Yeah,

1725
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: that's a talent.

1726
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 4: Is there any rhyme or reason of how you like

1727
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 4: get into the zone and notice any trends or patterns?

1728
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: No, it's unexplainable. It's like you don't even know, because

1729
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: if you can put yourself in the zone, you do

1730
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: it every night. But be Michael Jordan, you know, like

1731
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: it's certain type of zones, like it's good. It's like

1732
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 2: like like I could have a good game and not

1733
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 2: be in the zone. You know, I don't know how

1734
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: to explain it.

1735
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's just like.

1736
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: You have a certain rhythm and then it's just like okay,

1737
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: and then they they it's just like you're getting forced

1738
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: fed the ball.

1739
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Now everything slows down, Everything slows down, and you know

1740
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: you predict the opponent's defensive matchup because I've been in

1741
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: the zone and route running uh huh. And it's kind

1742
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: of like how you guys got except I'm not scoring.

1743
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 1: I had to catch, yeah, But I just remember like

1744
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: all my routes would marry up to each other like

1745
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: I'd hit them with the under and then I'd set

1746
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: up the under with a then I get him on

1747
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: a bowl and then I you know what I mean.

1748
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 3: It's just like everything that you you want to do

1749
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 3: is is doing. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's the zone.

1750
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: That's the zone for sure.

1751
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: Like I've had a few good playoff moments while I

1752
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: was in the zone that when that was one of them.

1753
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 3: But it's like, I don't know, man, it's like you're

1754
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: in a matrix or something right, and it's like, yeah,

1755
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: it's a.

1756
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: Crazy when you're in it right or where you just

1757
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: going like you just you're just going.

1758
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 2: There's nothing nobody else can do. It's like, but it

1759
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: won't last. All games won't last, you know what I'm saying.

1760
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: It might, but it's gonna be for like a good stretch,

1761
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 2: say like a five or six minute stretch. It's crazy.

1762
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 2: I've actually had probably like two games where it lasted.

1763
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: The whole game, which games so uh.

1764
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: One game was the close out game versus Philadelphia in

1765
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1766
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: It was the whole game, whole game. It was unreal.

1767
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 3: And then Indiana.

1768
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: We played Indiana in the playoffs, it lasted like, well,

1769
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: it went for a whole quarter.

1770
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: A whole quarter. That's that's a huge chance. Say that

1771
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: is a huge time.

1772
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: Actually it went for a whole quarter because I was

1773
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: as cold as ice in the first half and then

1774
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: the third quarter.

1775
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: It was just unreal. Part of like the Red Sea. Yeah,

1776
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 3: putting it in it was.

1777
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: Like even announcers was like this is unbelievable. It was

1778
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: like so like when I rewatched it.

1779
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, it was NBA jams on fire.

1780
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was Indiana third quarter. And then there

1781
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: was the Philadelphia game five. Oh, that was the whole game.

1782
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: That was that game you had forty six?

1783
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was like the whole game. I couldn't.

1784
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 3: It was just like crazy, what is what is.

1785
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: It about your clutchness? How come you performed so high

1786
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: and when your team needs it the most. Did you

1787
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: train that way? Is it just something in you?

1788
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,879
Speaker 3: I think it's a mindset. It's a mindset, yeah.

1789
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: You know, because I didn't care about failing, and I

1790
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: kept the confidence of the team when I did fail.

1791
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 2: So like every games, like I'm you know, I don't

1792
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: win the game or something.

1793
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 3: It was tricky.

1794
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 2: I was tricky, but I go in the locker room.

1795
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. I'm gonna get the next one.

1796
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.

1797
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1798
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 3: I owe y'all that one. Yea.

1799
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Where some guys they head down, like you know, probably

1800
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just they in a funk.

1801
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: I was never in that funk.

1802
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1803
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: It's just I always want them to know I'm gonna

1804
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: get the next one, don't worry. You know. I had to.

1805
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 2: They had to be confident in me, even when I

1806
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 2: failed to be confident in me when I did help

1807
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: us get over the top.

1808
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 3: Real self confidence. Not that fault.

1809
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: Because there's always a false hype guy at practice when

1810
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: there's a shitty game and someone is trying to be

1811
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: falsely enthusiastic and stuff, when you know it's false. Yeah,

1812
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm talking about.

1813
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: False shit. But it's got to be real. It's the

1814
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 3: real self confidence. Yeah, for sure. So but that's it.

1815
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't afraid to fail. When I failed, I didn't care.

1816
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I get the next one.

1817
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: Put a bow on this thing and stretch.

1818
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 5: Not only was Paul in the zone, but made a

1819
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 5: big old clutch hustle play to get the ball off

1820
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 5: the loose ball to hit the tip off the jump

1821
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 5: all there called time out, got the seize possession with

1822
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 5: just a minute left, and then we got to give

1823
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 5: a little shine to PJ. Brown for hitting that clutch

1824
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 5: elbow jumper and put us back up three with just

1825
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 5: under a minute left. And then Paul hits those free

1826
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 5: throws to ice it at the end, and Red gave

1827
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 5: that little one a little kiss in off the back

1828
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 5: iron and that.

1829
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: Throws too.

1830
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 1: Every time you feel I feel like when you shoot

1831
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: your free throw and watching you, you look like you're

1832
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: like you feel like it's gonna You're like if the

1833
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: guide it in, Like when I bowl, I got a guy,

1834
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: look like that's in there and I see you sliding back.

1835
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is.

1836
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: I do that.

1837
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: I do that a lot when I shoot, too, because

1838
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: I lean to one side or something, and Kevin used

1839
01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: to always make fun of that slide.

1840
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 3: Doing all this. I see it too.

1841
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 5: I do it.

1842
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1843
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I never noticed it until I actually when somebody brought

1844
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 2: them my attention. I was like, damn, why do I

1845
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 2: do that? It's like an outer body thing that I

1846
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 2: don't notice that I do.

1847
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: It.

1848
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 3: That's what it is, though, you know that. Why do it? Bowling?

1849
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1850
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, not shooting.

1851
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 5: I can't shoot, but bowling maybe right again? Sees would

1852
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 5: take this thing ninety seven ninety two. This would become

1853
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 5: Paul's second highest scoring performance in his playoff career. We

1854
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 5: talked about that forty six er against the Philly uh

1855
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 5: Celtics would get back to the Eastern Conference.

1856
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 3: Did his pants? That was in the finals?

1857
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 5: Wheelchair met uh SE's got back to the Eastern Conference

1858
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 5: finals for the first time since two thousand and two,

1859
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 5: uh and would only end up losing one game at

1860
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 5: home in the playoffs.

1861
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: Crazy Yeah to Detroit, Yeah O. Detroit ripped, Yeah, ripped.

1862
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: I was ripping Chauncey. Chauncey.

1863
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: Those were some fun teams, those old Detroit teams, the Wallace's.

1864
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then after Detroit we all know what happened

1865
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 3: Banner seventeen.

1866
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 1: Baby Banner seven, Team Paul would.

1867
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Go on to the NBA Finals MVP MVP Man. That

1868
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 3: pay was incredible, unreal. Explain the paride to us, Man,

1869
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 3: did y'all going doing the same? How did y'all do? Y'alls?

1870
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 3: We did it like three two two, Like I'm saying

1871
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 3: that y'all going duck boats? Yeah? We all?

1872
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I think everyone in Boston does duck boats. Yeah. Yeah.

1873
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: That was insane, right, that's fun. How insane was it?

1874
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 5: I mean.

1875
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: It's just a sea of people and I just remember

1876
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: beers being thrown at us at all angles. No, no,

1877
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: they was throwing uh shots, those little shots, jaggers whatever.

1878
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: The boat I mean it was.

1879
01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: The parades are are the best? Yeah? Man, h wait

1880
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: how many parrases you did? Three? Damn three parades Tom did?

1881
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: How about Tom doing seven? Seven parades? That's insane? The

1882
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 3: hell that's fucking crazy.

1883
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: And Bill Russell did six or eight?

1884
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Ten? He had ten championships. Yeah, that's crazy, bro, that's crazy.

1885
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: That's like, is that the icing on the cake for

1886
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: when the end of the season is when you go

1887
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: to the prayers, when you go to Vegas with the

1888
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: boys after the parade.

1889
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Man, it's all summer. Really, it's all summer until the

1890
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: next year start. Just you know what I'm sing, world, Yeah,

1891
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: he's just traveling and it's hard to calm down.

1892
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 3: It's hard hard to calm down.

1893
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: You know, what was the biggest bill you guys had

1894
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: to pay for on one of the team partying events

1895
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: in a certain city.

1896
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say, I don't know. I know for me,

1897
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: for just me, I had a twenty KBO And just put.

1898
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: In perspective, this is two thousand and eight, guys, so

1899
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: all you look chick your heads out there going to

1900
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: the club spending twenty racks in a weekend. Now ball

1901
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: those are only probably what like two hundred bucks?

1902
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 2: Then, man, it was this was like, man, I could

1903
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: I looked like that was the biggest bill I ever

1904
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: put up. I just kept getting like champagne bottles, and

1905
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: but just kept getting them, just kept wanting them to

1906
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: come across with the things I just killed all.

1907
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: Night all champagne campaign. Maybe, yeah, it was like twenty thousand.

1908
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, what's the legacy of this game?

1909
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 3: You guys?

1910
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: The first real Big three team, which I like to

1911
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: say Big four because Rondo was a fucking monster in

1912
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: this little thing. But first Big three team against phenom

1913
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: king guy.

1914
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: What is the legacy of this? This, I mean, this is.

1915
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: The legacy of this is like one of the great

1916
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 2: NBA games of all time. You know that wasn't a

1917
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 2: finals game because it was you know, a young Lebron

1918
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 2: who was and many people consider the greatest basketball player

1919
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 2: to ever play, a young player who was carrying his

1920
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: teams to heights that they shouldn't.

1921
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 3: Been even going to.

1922
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: And it was just a battle of wheels the two

1923
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 2: stars of their team, and it was a game. It

1924
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 2: was a winner, go home situation. And you know, this

1925
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: wasn't the game that sent them to Miami, but it was.

1926
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: It put something on his mind because when we did

1927
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 2: it again a couple of years later, he had enough.

1928
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 3: He had enough. He had enough.

1929
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: You can't beat him. You join him, get your own

1930
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Big Three. Let's name the game and then score the game.

1931
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's These

1932
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: are some of the names of the game that we

1933
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: came up with, Paul, But if you have a name

1934
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: that you want to call this game, we got to

1935
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: give this game a specific name. We came up with

1936
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: the Truth Prevails, you can't handle the Truth game, Get

1937
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: the Ball to Paul game, the smoke game, This one's

1938
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: for red game, the shootout in the Garden, or anything

1939
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: else that comes to your mind.

1940
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 3: What do you want to name this game? I can

1941
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 3: go awell, you can't handle the truth? Love it?

1942
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth?

1943
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1944
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 5: I like that.

1945
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: How many times did you watch that scene between Jack

1946
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Nicholson and we.

1947
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 3: Used to play it. I remember they'll put it in

1948
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 3: during the time out. Does that that was your thing?

1949
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

1950
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 3: That gave me chills every time every time they played

1951
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 3: that scene. Chills. You ever meet Jack Nilson? Yeah? I

1952
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 3: used to go shake his hand a lot when we

1953
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 3: played the Lakers, like, what's up, Jack? He's cool.

1954
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 2: The best time they though, is when we were playing Philly,

1955
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 2: because you know aldan Iverson was called the answer.

1956
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1957
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Oh, and then when they was like you want answers,

1958
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: I want the truth. Oh that was cold blooded when

1959
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 2: they did that. Hell yeah, I said.

1960
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 3: He looked up at it was like that was cold.

1961
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 3: It's cool too.

1962
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's score the game. He's just the greatest game of

1963
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 1: all time. Let's score it. Stakes zero to ten. Decimals

1964
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: encouraged Paul. The stakes of this game seven semi final

1965
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: game on the scale of one to ten, one to ten,

1966
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: ten being the highest of all time.

1967
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say eight an eight, very integrity type score.

1968
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 3: It was.

1969
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 5: It was, it was.

1970
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 1: It was second round, second round. Yeah, it's a man

1971
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: of integrity. I'm gonna go with a seven point eight

1972
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: seven eight.

1973
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 3: I go nine one nine winner, go home, Baby Winter,

1974
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 3: I go home.

1975
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Star power lot, I mean, you got k kg, you

1976
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: got the truth, Lebron, you got Lebron, you got Ray, Allen,

1977
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: got Rondi in a Celtics jersey, you got will Ford

1978
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: in a Celtics jersey.

1979
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 3: I mean, was there the star power was a ten ten?

1980
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I'm gonna have to go with the nine

1981
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: point two.

1982
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah we had, you know, we have the big dogs.

1983
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 3: All right, gameplay of the game, this thing.

1984
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, what you think the gameplay was for the

1985
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: viewer or what you think for you as a basketball player.

1986
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: Zero to ten decimals.

1987
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 3: Encouraged all right, nine point seven, nine point.

1988
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: Seven defensive battle back and forth, that gritty, it was greedy.

1989
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: I like basketball when it was under one hundred points.

1990
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 3: It was gritty. You know this is this was gritty.

1991
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the nine and then the name

1992
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: of the game that you can't handle point four, you

1993
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 1: can't handle the truth game.

1994
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a that's a a ten point one,

1995
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 3: a ten point one, our first ten point one. Let's

1996
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 3: go baby, that's our first ten point one our.

1997
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

1998
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 3: I mean it's a great God damn, it's a it's

1999
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 3: a nine, a great one. What did I go? I

2000
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 3: went oh, okay, I got I went low. I went

2001
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 3: for your points. I'm gonna go up. That was before

2002
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 3: we named it. I'm gonna go five. Yeah, I gotta

2003
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 3: go up five. I'll leave it to day five. Five.

2004
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Wow, we only went up a lot, really went up

2005
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot. Where does this put us in the grand scheme?

2006
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 3: All the game high score? That's a high it's our

2007
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 3: new four game.

2008
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 4: It's just below it's just below the twenty eleven eighteen

2009
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: Championship game Ravens versus Patriots, and just above the statue

2010
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 4: of Liberty game two thousand and seven Fiesta Bowl Boise State.

2011
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 3: For so you remember that which guy? Remember that Boise

2012
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 3: State game?

2013
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: When Adrian Peterson were the kid, they did the Boise

2014
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: State versus Oklahoma. He did the statue liberty and then

2015
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: they won and the kid proposed his girl, his cheerleader

2016
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: girlfriend after the game.

2017
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: Right right, little Disney, Dang, y'all got all just all sports? Huh,

2018
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 3: all sports go to the top. What about I know

2019
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 3: y'all have to have that Texas usc game here. We

2020
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 3: had our number one we want to do. We're trying

2021
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 3: to get Vincent to come. We want Vince Young to

2022
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 3: do it.

2023
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: We got that's like we had Reggie, we had Matt Lioner.

2024
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: That game was and that Florida State national championship with.

2025
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 4: Auburn that was here Auburn. Yes, we had Bert krescher

2026
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 4: on to do that game.

2027
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 3: That game was unreal. That was unreal. He didn't even

2028
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 3: go to the games. Get enough credit. It was incredible gameplay.

2029
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: But there's no like lasting people. There's no lasting names.

2030
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 3: That game.

2031
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's James Jameis Winstones Mayn.

2032
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 3: You're right though, well, we gotta do the Texas USCA.

2033
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: That was one of the best games of ever, ever, ever, ever.

2034
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 3: Memorable games. Damn.

2035
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm just these national championship games we coming to mind.

2036
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all game versus Atlanta that's our number one.

2037
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: That has to be number one all time.

2038
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I think the AFC Championship game between the Chiefs Patriots

2039
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: was better because that was like the passing of the

2040
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: torch from Tom to the dynasty, the Dynasties.

2041
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 3: That was it overtime overtime first, you know what I mean?

2042
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 3: It was on the road.

2043
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: That was a crazy game. It's not like biased or

2044
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: anything with Patriots and even the top three Patriots.

2045
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 2: I don't all that game was unreal because I remember

2046
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: we was getting off the plane. It was in Toronto.

2047
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 2: We actually landed in Toronto. Because when we landed the

2048
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 2: score was twenty eight to three.

2049
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 3: It was like damn.

2050
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: And then we started watching it in the lobby. We

2051
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: watched it in the lobby at the hotel. I never

2052
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: forget we watched in the lobby hotel. We didn't move

2053
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: me and Sam was right there the whole time, like damn,

2054
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on?

2055
01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 3: That was crazy.

2056
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: So basically because of the truth watching the game was

2057
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: Sam Cassell in the lobby, it gave us the good

2058
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: luck to come back those we need And when which game.

2059
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 2: Was that where you caught that ridiculous? That was probably

2060
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: the me I think he made the greatest catch of

2061
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: all time.

2062
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 3: That was that game? That game, right, that was That

2063
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 3: was that game. That's what I thought. That was the

2064
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 3: greatest catch ever. That was a crazy How you caught

2065
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 3: that ball? Dude? How did you catch that? Keep your

2066
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 3: eye on the ball. You couldn't see the ball, dude.

2067
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 3: You keep your eyes the ball. Your eyes will always

2068
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: bring your hands to the ball somewhere out there. That

2069
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 3: was crazy. Paul, we missed anything for this game? No,

2070
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 3: I think we covered it, man. You know what I'm saying.

2071
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Everyone, go check out The Truth after Dark, Paul's podcast

2072
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: Great relationship advice.

2073
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 3: Women.

2074
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: You'll love it too because you'll get to see how

2075
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: dumb we are as men and how we think. KG

2076
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: certified awesome on that as well. KG and him going

2077
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: out and Paul going on their stories is always fun.

2078
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: Check them out out Paul Pierce on Instagram and Paul

2079
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: Pierce thirty four on Twitter.

2080
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 3: Paul, thank you so much, bro. Well be good to

2081
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 3: see your game with my dog. We'll be right back

2082
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 3: after this quick break freaking Paul The Truth, baby, you

2083
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 3: can't handle the Truth. I was in the zone for

2084
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 3: like the whole game, not not chief. I'm in the zone.

2085
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 3: That was awesome. He he feels just like a brother.

2086
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 3: You really, I mean, you guys go way back, and

2087
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 3: fortunately we do. Fortunately we do. As soon as he

2088
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 3: leaves the house, he goes. No dude's hazard. So this incitation, bro,

2089
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 3: have you told that story on the show before?

2090
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: I think we've all told the story of a thousand times.

2091
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: And because of that, I need to get in a

2092
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 1: chill mindset. And it's time for the Chill Zone, brought

2093
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: to you by COR's Light. Get Core's Light, deliver straight

2094
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: to your door, visit Corpslight dot com, slash g w

2095
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 1: N and celebrate responsibly.

2096
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 3: Oh I love that sound tears brother fellas MM.

2097
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 4: I almost asked him if he was rooting for the

2098
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 4: Raiders in the two thousand and one Patriots race around.

2099
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 3: You should have. I didn't. I would have if I

2100
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 3: if I thought of it next time.

2101
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 1: Didn't think of it though, Good Pelicans joked Pelicans from

2102
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: the top rope.

2103
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think for a second, you're like

2104
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 3: this guy.

2105
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they got any banners and he retired jerseys.

2106
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: They had Braden Ingram for a minute, him b d

2107
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: on the same A Y M C A bro crazy.

2108
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. As a an East Bay addict

2109
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 1: and a self proclaimed ballner, I totally forgot case wisted

2110
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: basketball shoes. I think I totally forgot. I honestly think

2111
01:40:59,200 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I had a pair of them.

2112
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 3: I had a pair.

2113
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I bought two pair of from East May. I bought

2114
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: the pair of the black I versions where they were

2115
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 1: the all black midsy It was like like the rebox, Yeah,

2116
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the answers. Yeah, I Everson had a

2117
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: different one.

2118
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, questions.

2119
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: Like that. Nah. Actually I did not have a pair

2120
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: of those. It wasn't like it's the it's the I

2121
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: had a pair of the classic white that was sketchers.

2122
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: It's the s see those right there, the left to

2123
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: your left. These I've had a pair of those. Those

2124
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: were like, oh yeah, when I was a kid, those.

2125
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 5: Were like there answered like the like a stand Smith

2126
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 5: type joint kind of Wow. We've had a couple of

2127
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 5: sketches references this episode. Shout out, dude, so what are

2128
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 5: we doing?

2129
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 4: I just say something and maybe I'm getting older, But

2130
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 4: I went on vacation recently. I bought new shoes for vacation.

2131
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: Got some sketches.

2132
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 4: You got skeers very tight like they slip on, but

2133
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 4: they look like they're real shoes and their comfy.

2134
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I'm pro sketcher.

2135
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

2136
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 3: I mean how he is a huge sketcher. You got

2137
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 3: influenced by how we gotta do it. We're a rebox show.

2138
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, true, I'm a rebox guy. Yeah. Maybe I'll

2139
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 3: get a rebox guy. You should, you should, bro you

2140
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 3: Danny Wood had had it?

2141
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 5: What do you do?

2142
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Danny Wood had a sketcher's deal? What back in the day?

2143
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 3: And looking Oh my god, dude, so did Rick Fox?

2144
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 3: Remember Rick Fox had Fox?

2145
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 5: Maybe Kim Kardashian Kim Company Kai where my sketchers next show?

2146
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 3: Let's see him. I can't wait to see these bad boys.

2147
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 3: And I was stomping all over Europe.

2148
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 4: Uh huh wow, yeah, doing twenty steps today, twenty k

2149
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 4: Yeah in Paris in sketchers.

2150
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 3: Wow, I like that. Nice and warming over there right now? Hot?

2151
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 3: Was it hot?

2152
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: No?

2153
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 3: We got perfect weather, did you? Yeah? It's hot in Italy? Hot? Yeah?

2154
01:42:55,320 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 3: Really yeah? Rome hot? Hot in Florence.

2155
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 4: And they're not like set up for the heat either,

2156
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 4: Like if we went to the we went to the water,

2157
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 4: is it was?

2158
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 3: It was still hot. But it was hot. Yeah, but

2159
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: you're near water. Yeah. All right, your old boys. Let's

2160
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 3: know what do we got? Let's get into this bat.

2161
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 5: This is this is a little NFL preseason edition of

2162
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 5: a little segment we like to call.

2163
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 3: Jack Asks Jack. It's good good? Say hey, what's this?

2164
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 5: Is a real uh real j Leno type title to

2165
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 5: this one. It's like that's a little Andy Cochen.

2166
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: Come on.

2167
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 5: But this is a preseason edition where I'll put you

2168
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 5: on the the lukewarm seat. We'll say, uh, definitely not hot.

2169
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 5: Ask you some some questions that kind of make you

2170
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 5: think for a minute. And these are all the NFL

2171
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 5: preseason season.

2172
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 3: OUTLOOKD type type theme. How do you like that jewels?

2173
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: I'll pepper match you.

2174
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 5: You bring it back at me and we'll move on

2175
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 5: rapid fire ish Ready are you ready to enter into

2176
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 5: the Jacks asks? Who is an athlete that doesn't yet

2177
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 5: to have a statue but deserves one.

2178
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't know many athletes that have statues.

2179
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 3: Tom.

2180
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 4: Do you like Tom statue? I like Tom's statue.

2181
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 3: That's good.

2182
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 4: It beens safe, but it's good. You can suck up

2183
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 4: a statue and they didn't.

2184
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how people mess up statues so much

2185
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 3: it looks weird? Rinaldo I know what?

2186
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't get those? Is it hard to do with

2187
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 1: the bronze?

2188
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 3: This is hard. I mean I've seen stuff.

2189
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 1: That like ancient Aztec Miyans sculpted it out of granite

2190
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: that looked just like the indigenous people. We can't get

2191
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: someone to do Tom Brady's beautiful easily. They nailed Tom's face,

2192
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: the face was that they didn't They went thin face?

2193
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 3: Yea, with thin face. I think there's a little pressure.

2194
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 3: Oh one lean a little bit. What if they put

2195
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 3: on young Brady when he had chubby face? Like the stuff?

2196
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

2197
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 1: So mad?

2198
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 4: The one thing I would I think the statue is cool.

2199
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 4: I think they did a good job. The one thing

2200
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 4: I would have liked it to be is from a

2201
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 4: specific moment, like not just oh here is the embodiment

2202
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 4: of Tom Brady as opposed to like he used to

2203
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 4: do that? Though I think did he just like I

2204
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 4: think I thought it'd been cool if he was doing

2205
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,799
Speaker 4: the let's go Tom and he was facing the stadium

2206
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 4: so he's like running in would sick?

2207
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Who's who is a statue? Who doesn't Terry, Uh,

2208
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 1: Terry should have a statue. If he does have a statue,

2209
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: she's got it. I don't think he does, Bill, Bill

2210
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: Russell does because Will Belichick is are they only a

2211
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: Belichick a statue?

2212
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 3: He deserves one.

2213
01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 4: I wonder what would you do with him just with

2214
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 4: his arms crossed, like just scowling next to Tom in

2215
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 4: a hood like a way.

2216
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 5: Like yeah, because he and he has the one outside

2217
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 5: of Levi's with Dwight Clark.

2218
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: Where does didn't the distance apart as a catch? Yeah, yeah,

2219
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: that's a great Jordan has a statue. Yeah, probably like ten.

2220
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 3: Jordan's got a great one outside the United Center there.

2221
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 5: Bill, Yeah, Bill Russell doesn't have one. Larry Bird no

2222
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 5: many statues. Bill Russell does, but it's over there in

2223
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 5: the City Hall plaza. Larry Bird needs one in Boston.

2224
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 3: That's probably a good answer. Yeah, Larry Bird.

2225
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 4: The Bobby or statue is an incredible statue.

2226
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 3: That is pretty good statue from that moment.

2227
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 5: Because Larry's got one back at Indiana State, but one

2228
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 5: outside of Larry needs one in Boston.

2229
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry knows. You know who else needs one?

2230
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: I feel like Big Boppy, Big Poppy does, He's.

2231
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 3: Got a street named after him, now that's true. Is

2232
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 3: it called Big Poppy Street? It's called David Ortiz some

2233
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 3: Way Street.

2234
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I would what would Big Poppy want the street name

2235
01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: to be called?

2236
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 3: This is my fun, this is our street? Fucking what's

2237
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 3: the street? Or maybe call it what's that stuff? He

2238
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 3: was sipping on? What's the fuck the crap? I wish

2239
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 3: I had it on my recalls right now, Dominican liquor?

2240
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 3: Was he talking Mama Mama wan Mama Wana avenue? Definitely? Okay?

2241
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 3: So Larry Bird, Larry Barry, Larry Bird in Boston, not

2242
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 3: the Indiana state. And then Bill in you know, five

2243
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 3: years Yeah, yeah, I mean he's an athlete though he's

2244
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 3: a coach. I mean, I mean played lacross at Wesley.

2245
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 3: No shade here, but shade.

2246
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 5: If we're gonna give freaking Doug Peterson and Nick Foles

2247
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 5: the statue, they got a statue they on right away.

2248
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 3: Yes, they're going right away for the Philly especially, I mean,

2249
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 3: don't don't get me going. That was their first Super Bowl?

2250
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 3: Do you think that's so lame?

2251
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Though?

2252
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 4: Who's the who's the Jeff Lory, who's the GM ownership of?

2253
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: I know it's Jeff Lori, Laurie, you think that he's

2254
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 1: a Boston guy and they were about to fire Peterson.

2255
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: Did you think that, someone said in that room, I mean,

2256
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 4: we did just get him a statue.

2257
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: Do you think that factory even from no someone Maybe

2258
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:12,560
Speaker 1: he thought about it.

2259
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,879
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm okay, they gave me a statue.

2260
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: I think Laurie probably like, man, we gave this guy

2261
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 1: a statue.

2262
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 3: And he's like, damn, like we could we could sit

2263
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: on who's saying this thing? And just it is, it's

2264
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 3: on the table. Did have a statue? Did have a statue?

2265
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 5: He did? That thing came down though, isn't it some

2266
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 5: sho there's all these Philly dirt bags out there. I

2267
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:43,879
Speaker 5: think that's their first super.

2268
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 4: I think that's about that game. That statue is not

2269
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 4: about the individual, right, It's about that like play. It's

2270
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 4: a statue commemorating the play. Yeah, because like.

2271
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: Nick falls in Philly Special, you know that was it's

2272
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,720
Speaker 1: agmite but he doesn't hey o.

2273
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 5: They uh yeah, I mean that that then you start

2274
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 5: having the conversation of not who doesn't deserve a statue,

2275
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 5: but what's the premature? Like whenever when Sabin had a

2276
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 5: statue while he was the coach at Alabama.

2277
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 3: Always thought that was a little weird.

2278
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: Sabs had a statue at Alabama, Yes, while he was

2279
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: still there.

2280
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 4: Like college is different because like a part of it

2281
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 4: is like recruiting for sure, that they need to play

2282
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 4: that fucking game a little bit for sure.

2283
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, just the the the

2284
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 3: of all of.

2285
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 4: The Crypto dot com arena, like they'd be like second

2286
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 4: team broadcasters that have statues there, Oh my god.

2287
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 3: A little bit much.

2288
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 4: I mean there's some iconic people that played there that

2289
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 4: deserve statues, but like, right, it's because one bombers Crypto

2290
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 4: here stables. Yeah, they got Dustin Brown. I mean cool,

2291
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 4: you want to cut to two cups lamar odom.

2292
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, what are we doing out here?

2293
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. If you were on the Lakers and

2294
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 3: you want something, uh, all right, the answer is Larry

2295
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 3: Bird Lar Popula or he doesn't have one. That's crazy.

2296
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,719
Speaker 3: It's crazy in Boston, Jules.

2297
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 5: Next up, if you were NFL commissioner for a day,

2298
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 5: what is one rule you are changing or implementing?

2299
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 1: Ooh, if I have one rule that I get to

2300
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: in forever, or is it just that one game, no forever.

2301
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm going straight old school kickoff three man wedge. I

2302
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: want the old I want to see just straight fireworks

2303
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 1: by like new age dudes running full speed four four,

2304
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds blowing up a three hundred

2305
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: pound wedge guy.

2306
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 3: I like this. Clanging and banging, Baby, clanging and banging,

2307
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 3: bring it back. I like that dynamic. It's cool.

2308
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's safer and it's it's still it's

2309
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: still an exciting play. But nothing was more exciting than

2310
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 1: seeing a dude with long hair, because usually one of

2311
01:50:53,800 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: the teamers had long hair going full speed, like on

2312
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 1: the beach. He's a normous knowing you're not going it's

2313
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna nothing good could happen of this. It's just

2314
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go blow him up. His job is literally

2315
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 1: you gotta go to hit him hard.

2316
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 3: That's what I like. Oh that would rock? Tell you?

2317
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 3: I just want a little special teams action. Do you

2318
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 3: have a question? Do you have a what would you do? Hmmm?

2319
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: I like that one.

2320
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 5: My mind didn't go there. I know it would be

2321
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 5: bad for pace of play, but review make everything challengeable. Everything, everything,

2322
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god, everything Jesus, let's get it right, and

2323
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 5: I want cameras everywhere everything. Let's come on cameras and

2324
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 5: all the pylons like Bill always wanted. I know we're

2325
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 5: getting there already, but like everything should be challenging, should

2326
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 5: be cameras. They were like, well we can't afford it.

2327
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 5: Remember that was the issues forever. But I think everything challengeable.

2328
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 5: What do you guys think you got one.

2329
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 3: That's too much? You're coming from a good place. I

2330
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 3: think outcome would be bad. I'd want to all these

2331
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 3: like take what.

2332
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: About the robot umpires? Are they going to it.

2333
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 5: Year?

2334
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I think next year? And then they got the first

2335
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 3: down robot in football this year, So what are they

2336
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 3: gonna have behind there? What?

2337
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 1: I think it's still gonna be a person, right, Oh,

2338
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be a person. But he's just gonna press.

2339
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, I gotta look into that. Maybe he

2340
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 3: gets buzzed. No, I don't, I don't know, you know

2341
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 3: what I mean?

2342
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 4: If I if I could do one thing, I would

2343
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 4: look at these Tiki Taki third down penalties that are

2344
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 4: automatic drive extenders to like Tiki Taki third and ten

2345
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 4: holding for five yards, but the first down defensive holding

2346
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 4: or some of these tiki taki offensive pass interference stuffy

2347
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 4: pull that back, because there's nothing worse than like defense

2348
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 4: stopping you when there's some like little tug that's not

2349
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 4: even a part of the play that just extends the

2350
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 4: drive at least to score against.

2351
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: Jase, I'd also yeah, i'd also uh with that. I

2352
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:57,759
Speaker 1: would I would allow picking ooh like for man coverage.

2353
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: I like that spoken like a true receiver.

2354
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 5: What about and then in that vein, do you what

2355
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 5: are your thoughts on altering pass interference rules and going

2356
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 5: more towards the college style penalty?

2357
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 3: Fifteen? Yeah? Fifteen?

2358
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: Is it fifteen or ten? The thing is these dbs

2359
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. If it's ten ten yards, don't

2360
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 1: do it, yeah, because they're gonna say there's gonna be

2361
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: one time the ref don't call it.

2362
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, because or if it's forty yards down the field.

2363
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're like, I'll take I don't know, Yeah, I.

2364
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 4: Think you should do reverse spot files on offensive passing

2365
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 4: of France. So if it's forty yards down you lose forty.

2366
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: But still it's penalty a lot, I know, but still,

2367
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 1: like statistically speaking, it's like, oh, you know what I do.

2368
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:52,520
Speaker 4: I would I would include wide receivers getting interceptions.

2369
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 3: What do you mean as a stat? As a stat?

2370
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,879
Speaker 4: So if it hits, if it's like a wildly catchable

2371
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 4: ball and it hit your hands and it becomes intercepted,

2372
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 4: I don't think that should go against the quarterback.

2373
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 3: I think that should go against the receiver.

2374
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Then we got the dude in the box that's like

2375
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 1: the hit guy that like.

2376
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 3: That's always was he?

2377
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2378
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? How fuck is that a hit? Yeah? They do

2379
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 3: that in hockey like crazy. Also, what do you think

2380
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 3: about him going back to the uh letting bumping?

2381
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 5: Right?

2382
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: I just saw somewhere recently that who was it? Someone

2383
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 1: was talking about what I think it was Jared Allen.

2384
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: He was he was lobbying for a sack a half sack.

2385
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, that he is the official.

2386
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 4: He should be the all time sack or single season

2387
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 4: sack leader, record time record leader. No, right, no, because

2388
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 4: he claims that he had because he only has twenty two.

2389
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 4: He claimed that he has twenty three. Because there was

2390
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 4: a sack that would look like a sack, but someone

2391
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 4: like fumbled it and picked whoever the quarterback was fumbled

2392
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 4: it and picked it back up.

2393
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: And that's crazy. There's a lot riding on that one play.

2394
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they counted as a team sack and it

2395
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 3: was against Aaron.

2396
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 5: Rodgers, right, yeah, yeah, the phantoms I remember that. Yeah,

2397
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 5: I just saw that, mister three thousand, no argument. You

2398
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 5: even talked the chair down.

2399
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 3: Back in the day. My boy, Aaron knows him very well.

2400
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 3: May May you should hit him up.

2401
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I would love to have him on. He would be amazing, incredible.

2402
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: He's got Matt light vibes. Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer.

2403
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 3: I thought he was.

2404
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I said on here that he was

2405
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: doing magic out of that he was roping the cow

2406
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: was so down.

2407
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 3: Oh like magic that too. Yeah, broken the.

2408
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 4: Cow you're talking about when you said that, he's he's.

2409
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: An awesome dude's Hall of Famer. Shoutout, Hall of Famer, shoutout. Congrats.

2410
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 5: All right, moving on, this is uh kind of segues

2411
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 5: into our next question nicely. What is one trend in

2412
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 5: today's sports world.

2413
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 3: That drives you nuts?

2414
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 1: Flopping in soccer? Yeah, is that a trend, but it's

2415
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: as relevant as ever. Yeah, it's baked into the like

2416
01:55:56,000 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: well regardless, that bugs me. It's hard to watch, but

2417
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 1: I guess it's strategic. They try to get more time,

2418
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: rest time, this, that, at time, this that some dude

2419
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: comes on sprays them and then they're miraculously great. I've

2420
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: never even seen that spray and I play professional sport.

2421
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: What is the spray?

2422
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 5: What is the spray? I know it's got some sort

2423
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 5: of healing powers, though I don't know that. What What

2424
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 5: are other trends in that same breath like that or

2425
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 5: what the real what is the real breath it's supposed

2426
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 5: to be? And I just completely bum Oh, you're right,

2427
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 5: that's no, that's totally it. I hate foubating in basketball.

2428
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 5: We're talking about SGA on this episode. I think there's

2429
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 5: a decent bit of thubating going on there.

2430
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 3: Oh and that drives me. Do I hate when dbs

2431
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: give the shutdown sign.

2432
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 1: Onlike when the dude drops a ball or it's an

2433
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 1: overthrow or if it had nothing to do with him,

2434
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: we're giving next throat, no fly zone he's got. Everyone

2435
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: is celebrating everything.

2436
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 3: That's awesome. It's so dB bro, it's so d D

2437
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 3: is awesome. I think, uh, next, bro, God, just drop

2438
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 3: the ball. He's mad.

2439
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 5: No another thing I was gonna say that that Paul

2440
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 5: I was trying to get in with Paul. I think

2441
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 5: everyone's a little too buddy buddy these days. Two key

2442
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 5: key out there, very key key. I don't like that,

2443
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 5: very key key. I'm not saying you hate hate each other,

2444
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 5: but it's like, oh, come on, like no, it's too much,

2445
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 5: don't you think?

2446
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, two key key A little two key key. I'm

2447
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: always ever key key. No ask McAfee, I don't key key.

2448
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 3: I like that. That's one of the many things I

2449
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: love about you.

2450
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 1: It's just like we can keep when we're retired.

2451
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 3: Oh, we don't have time for that. What Kyler said?

2452
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 3: What are some others that I love about you?

2453
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 5: I said, we don't have time for that as a

2454
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 5: full episode, right there, brother, Well lord have mercy an

2455
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 5: extended episode.

2456
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 3: Just just listen all your good qualities.

2457
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack said, That's one of the things I like

2458
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 4: about you is that you don't like something with the

2459
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 4: other guys.

2460
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 3: What are some other things that you like about them?

2461
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 5: How much time you got, brother, that's I feel like

2462
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 5: it gets a little it gets a little ref balie.

2463
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like refs get too involved

2464
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 4: too laden games and they're not just letting players play

2465
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 4: and almost rather miscalls than overcalls.

2466
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could like let the boys play energy. Yeah,

2467
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Dip me up, dog, I'm with you. Actually,

2468
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 3: I got I got one, I got a hot I

2469
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 3: got a hockey one.

2470
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 4: It's that there's a big variance between regular season officiating

2471
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 4: and playoff officiating. And I think you I understand why

2472
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 4: it's the way it is that it's tiki taking in

2473
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 4: regular season and then like they swallow their whistles in

2474
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 4: the playoffs. But I think because it's so different, a

2475
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 4: team that's successful in the playoffs is not necessarily a

2476
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 4: team that's successful in the regular season.

2477
01:58:58,040 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Advice versa. And it's like, what are we even doing?

2478
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 3: It's two different sports.

2479
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 4: In hockey, like regular season officiating is very different from

2480
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 4: it's all officiating though, but it's it's like extra in hockey.

2481
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:10,480
Speaker 3: And there's even like some stats Whi's like.

2482
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 1: They have a little bit of free sport. They swallow

2483
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 1: the whistle and basketball they freaking swallow the whistle. In

2484
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: football they don't call anything. Yeah, just because you should

2485
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: be doing it, but.

2486
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 4: Just getting it a little bit closer to regular season.

2487
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm much more of a casual than you, But I

2488
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 3: know what you mean. Yeah, man, all right.

2489
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 4: Let's go with Oh and I like, let's figure out

2490
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 4: n AL better and college team stop like going to

2491
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 4: bullshit conferences for money and like actually being in conferences.

2492
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh, those trends are crazy. I hate. That's the one.

2493
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 3: That's the one I hate. Yeah. At the conference alignment,

2494
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh don't you guys started?

2495
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 4: Did you guys see that the presentation the Virginia Tech

2496
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 4: ad got leakedout? Did the ad for Virginia Tech did

2497
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 4: a whole like someone twenty thirty slide PowerPoint presentation to

2498
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 4: hit their board of directors about the state of college

2499
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 4: sports and NIL and conferences and what they need to

2500
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 4: be doing and what they forecast is going to be

2501
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 4: the different tiers and like all the decks got leaked

2502
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 4: on Twitter. It was like spot on, but it was

2503
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 4: essentially from Virginia Tech perspective, was like, we need to

2504
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 4: spend way more money because we're gonna get left out.

2505
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 3: In the cold. Yeah, it sounds about Yeah, you'd actually

2506
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 3: be interested in that. I'd like, Yeah, I mean it's

2507
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 3: crazy to spending words.

2508
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're literally privatizing universities.

2509
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 3: If you think about it.

2510
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: The sport has if you think about it, the sport

2511
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the education anymore completely A great.

2512
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: So now you got West Virginia who's gonna spend more

2513
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 1: money on their football program that has nothing to do

2514
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: with their fucking university and they're gonna so they can

2515
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: make more money on the other end.

2516
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 4: What's crazy though, And that's crazy part of this part

2517
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 4: of this President, You're just.

2518
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 3: Like, we're just licensed that.

2519
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: That's what they should say. These are pro teams that

2520
02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 1: are licensing college university names.

2521
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 3: That's that's an angle because.

2522
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: They need to collect the bargaining agreement too, because you

2523
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: can't have guys leaving twice a year.

2524
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 3: They need to like dial it in.

2525
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: This is probably the last year of the wild Wall West,

2526
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 1: so I.

2527
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 4: Bet it's coming I suspect it's gonna get fixed in

2528
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 4: something which.

2529
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 1: Let the boys go out and get get as much

2530
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: money as you can until the rules come in.

2531
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 3: The gold rush this year, let's keep.

2532
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 1: An eye on. You got a little kids making eight

2533
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: million dollars, eight million dollars, they're gonna come in in

2534
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 1: the league, make it more than their fucking coach.

2535
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 3: They don't need the money.

2536
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 4: A part of what that like that leaked presentation had

2537
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 4: was that success on the basketball court and the football

2538
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 4: field has a direct revenue, a direct connection to revenue

2539
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 4: of the college of a whole, and that when a

2540
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 4: school goes out George Mason goes out and wins the

2541
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 4: Final Four, goes to the Final four, they get like

2542
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 4: twenty five percent enrollment, which is X amount of dollars.

2543
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 4: When fucking this team goes to there and does this

2544
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 4: thing like there definitely is. And they were saying that

2545
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 4: we should be thinking of our athletic department budget as

2546
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 4: marketing for the school. And if you look at the

2547
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 4: marketing that goes into a Marble movie, it's way less

2548
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,360
Speaker 4: than an athletic department if you look at the marketing,

2549
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 4: and a team going to a high level has even better.

2550
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 4: What can they make in a year though, if they

2551
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 4: go to like the championships, it's not even about the

2552
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 4: team making money. It's about now I'm saying, George Mason,

2553
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 4: because there were a team out of the blue that

2554
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 4: went to the Final four.

2555
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the kids are gonna want to go there.

2556
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 4: Yes, kids go there, and now it's publicly in people's consciousness,

2557
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 4: which is all marketing is. And that they have revenue

2558
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 4: because of that. So it's like, because our team hasn't

2559
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 4: been in a BCS Bowl or hasn't done shit in

2560
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 4: my while, look at our numbers going down. From an

2561
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 4: enrollments perspective.

2562
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't even like talking about college football anymore because

2563
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 1: I I don't, I don't reckon, I don't know. I know,

2564
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 1: first off, I didn't experience like real crazy college football

2565
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 1: like environment when it was like old crazy college football environment.

2566
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 3: Now I.

2567
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 1: Have.

2568
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 3: I cannot relate to any of these guys.

2569
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 4: Lost the thing that made it special, which is like

2570
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 4: the culture of it and like the rivalries and like

2571
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 4: I went there because I went this.

2572
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,480
Speaker 3: This robberies this and this pretty cool scene. Ohio State

2573
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 3: come out here. Yeah, it's cool.

2574
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 4: It'll be cool for five years, and then it's gonna

2575
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 4: be like, why the fuck isn't UCLA Bay.

2576
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be one major conference that be one league, it's.

2577
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 3: Gonna be two, it's probably gonna be two. It's gonna

2578
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 3: be the big ten in the SEC. And I mean, honestly,

2579
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 3: and then they should break down is down. I mean,

2580
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna be nuts.

2581
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 1: These next five years are so so it's gonna be

2582
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: funny to do a social study on it.

2583
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 4: What I'm kind of secretly hoping in a dystoping kind

2584
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 4: of way, is that it becomes the two major leagues

2585
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 4: big ten SEC conferences and then they get subdivided, subdivided

2586
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 4: back into regions that were originally.

2587
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 3: Old original conference is roughly right.

2588
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 4: So you've got Texas and Oklahoma and Missouri in the SEC,

2589
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 4: in the SEC Central, and they become the old Big twelve.

2590
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. If those universities make it,

2591
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 3: those ones are already in. Yeah, it's like the last

2592
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 3: year of the gold Rush before they might like actually

2593
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 3: start putting. Some UNC is talking about going to what

2594
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 3: I thought that.

2595
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: Gotta keep you can we can we win a game

2596
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 1: in the A c C before we talk going anywhere.

2597
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on man. I'm just telling you

2598
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta keep an eye on those Red

2599
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 3: Raiders this year.

2600
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Also, I'm just telling you I've done a lot of

2601
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: backing for for North Carolina, a lot of backing for there,

2602
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: a lot of backing. We've We've backed them Lombardi uh

2603
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 1: head coach, coach, We've backed them. Do not start oh

2604
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 1: and four, Do not start one and three, they'll go

2605
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: down begging you.

2606
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 3: Lose. You're gonna eat ship.

2607
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna eat so much ship if they

2608
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 1: start one in three.

2609
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,839
Speaker 3: That's how big this is. Okay, this is this pro football,

2610
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 3: and I just cracked my goddamn neck. You're right, kind

2611
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 3: of felt good? Nice? Is there any one or more

2612
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 3: of these?

2613
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2614
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 3: I want to do a couple of them. Let's go, baby.

2615
02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: If you had to place we'll quick them though. Okay, yeah,

2616
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: if you had to place a bet today on the

2617
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL MVP, I think this is easy.

2618
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:11,160
Speaker 3: Who will it be? I don't think it's easy.

2619
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 4: I almost placed them. I'm regretting it every since.

2620
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 3: You go.

2621
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, I was in Vegas. I had a queue

2622
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 4: up in the fucking machine. I had a Drake may

2623
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 4: MVB whole bear with me with a Patriots Super Bowl

2624
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 4: fucking parlay one hundred dollars would have win seven hundred

2625
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand dollars.

2626
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's not gonna happen. But like I think,

2627
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 3: to this day, it's.

2628
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 4: Like you're telling me there's a chance one preseason game

2629
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 4: of telling me there's a chance preseason game looks pretty good.

2630
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

2631
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 1: If you want to give me a hundred bucks, I'll

2632
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 1: pack it. If you just want to start throwing a

2633
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: hundred dollars away, I.

2634
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 4: Mean it's it's Joe Burrow, Jackson, Allen Mahomes.

2635
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: Pick one of the four three hors race there. Yeah,

2636
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 1: I would say, is there a dark horse? Is justin

2637
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 1: Herbert come out of nowhere?

2638
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 3: Just didn't love that? Do you go with that? I

2639
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:00,840
Speaker 3: can't like a saque or.

2640
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 1: I think Burrows probably gotta get it. How crazy? I

2641
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:06,960
Speaker 1: still can't believe the stats from last year. You had

2642
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:11,840
Speaker 1: triple Crown winner, you had best passing quarterback, and you

2643
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 1: had the most sacks on the defense by one guy,

2644
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: and they didn't make the playoffs. That three combin I

2645
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: don't think has that ever done?

2646
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 3: Has ever.

2647
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:25,040
Speaker 4: But the cheat The Chargers had a number one offense

2648
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:26,240
Speaker 4: and a number one defense.

2649
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 3: I know.

2650
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 1: I heard about it from Antonio Gates a million times

2651
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 1: about yeah, when we're in London, how there's no way

2652
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: that we should have ever beat him. When he was

2653
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 1: associating me with the team that I was not on,

2654
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 1: I was in seventh grade. I kept on trying to

2655
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 1: tell him I wasn't on those Patriot teams, Antonio.

2656
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 3: That was you stripping the ball. After that, their special

2657
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 3: teams was hot garbage though, Hey the third phase, don't

2658
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 3: forget about it.

2659
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 4: What do you think We're also going to do this

2660
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:54,000
Speaker 4: at dudes too?

2661
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 3: A preseason MVP.

2662
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 5: It's got to be Shador, Yes, bro, he has a

2663
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 5: guy walking in with the sickle, with the sickle, oh

2664
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 5: my god, that was that.

2665
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 3: We're playing his own unreleased rap song.

2666
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 4: They will have legendary in one play preseason game from

2667
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 4: the Browns between then and now.

2668
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: Yo, I just want to put this out there and

2669
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: there it goes. You could say what you want, right

2670
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 1: whatever you thought before that game, That game was a

2671
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: huge game for him. I don't care what anyone says.

2672
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 1: He showed And Dylan Gabriel, you better get your ass healthy. Yeah, okay,

2673
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. He went out there and played

2674
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: fucking pretty good. He went out and played pretty damn

2675
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: good man. He looked comfortable and you could say whatever

2676
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 1: it was against the twos, it was against the threes.

2677
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 1: They had a form of they had a level of

2678
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: execution that looked like a competent football team. And when

2679
02:07:52,360 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 1: is the last time. We've seen that in in Cleveland

2680
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,680
Speaker 1: in a while. I mean, you know, so like before

2681
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 1: we want and I know Joe's the starter, but I'm

2682
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 1: talking for that backup role Flago.

2683
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 3: I heard they might keep four quarterbacks too.

2684
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: You can't keep four quarterbacks. You can't keep four quarterbacks. Okay,

2685
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 1: you cannot keep fourth. What are we doing keeping four quarterbacks?

2686
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: They got to trade someone or something, because right now

2687
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: he's number two to me, regardless of what you say

2688
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: about anyone else. He went out there, he played, I heard.

2689
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 1: I've heard that he hasn't taken any first team reps.

2690
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 1: I've heard that all. I've heard all the pre draft shit.

2691
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 1: He went out and balled out and he made thirty

2692
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: two other teams saw this, two tuddies, thirty one other team.

2693
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: So like he's got merit right now, he's got leverage,

2694
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 1: not leverage to do anything fucking stupid. But like, if

2695
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: you're the other players on that team and you're in

2696
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:53,920
Speaker 1: that locker room, it's it's mighty hard to fool guys

2697
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:54,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room.

2698
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 3: Are you gonna go in here and say what are

2699
02:08:58,200 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 3: you gonna do?

2700
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:00,160
Speaker 1: You're not gonna reward this guy for going for and

2701
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 1: what he just get one hundred and thirty four computer

2702
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: rating whatever, two touchdowns.

2703
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some shit that he has to work on,

2704
02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 3: but he he looked pretty decent. He looked good.

2705
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, man, the fact that he's out

2706
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 1: there availability is better than ability sometimes.

2707
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 3: That's what I was told.

2708
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 5: It's the best of old career, amen, bro. When I

2709
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 5: got hurt, I went down the bottom chart.

2710
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:28,840
Speaker 1: When I got hurt, I went because you know, they

2711
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 1: say you can't lose your shit to injury, look at

2712
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 1: look at blood sell.

2713
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 5: And to go out there and on draft babe, I

2714
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 5: mean quite frankly humiliated. Guy's brank phone calling you, yeah,

2715
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 5: sliding people on the internet talking smack every opportunity they get.

2716
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 3: He goes out there in balls.

2717
02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 1: Regardless of what you think that game, like he's the

2718
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 1: preseason MVP, because that was a huge game for him individually.

2719
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 1: The pressure, Like every network talks about this kid, every network.

2720
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,320
Speaker 3: It's a fifth round draft pick, regardless of where he

2721
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 3: was supposed to go. He's fifth round draft pick. Yeah,

2722
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 3: his dad's delon his dad's goat.

2723
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 1: But like he went out there, bowled out when everyone's

2724
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,680
Speaker 1: been talking about him, and you know, I don't like that.

2725
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: He went up to the dude afterwards and said, you know,

2726
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 1: when you go up to the reporter, he did some

2727
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 1: do a reporter a antymore.

2728
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he was. He was charming with it,

2729
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:25,120
Speaker 3: but he kind of like he got to go do

2730
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 3: it again now, yeah, or against I don't know NFL talent.

2731
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't even have any ice on my riss regardless

2732
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: of the first if it's NFL talent or not.

2733
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 3: He still went out and did it, and people were

2734
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 3: rooty for him not to.

2735
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 1: Look at look at Caleb. Caleb didn't go out there.

2736
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 1: That is crazy to me too, that whole thing. How

2737
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 1: I know we didn't play the whole offensive line, and

2738
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,880
Speaker 1: I know we didn't play you know, our stars, but

2739
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 1: Chicago not playing there ones when you got Patrick Mahomes playing, okay,

2740
02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:03,880
Speaker 1: and they've played together for ten five eight years now, Burrow.

2741
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 3: Played, You had Bubble Boy TWA playing.

2742
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna go out that dude that I

2743
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, Ben Johnson, that's that's you gotta get.

2744
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 1: Regardless I'm gonna be out there this week or whenever

2745
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 1: we're dropping there, I'm gonna you would have just come back.

2746
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 1: I just came back from there. But I'm saying I'm

2747
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna be very interested because like, the only thing that

2748
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 1: makes you better at football is playing football, especially when

2749
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 1: a valuables the VR. Okay, and if you if I don't,

2750
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 1: why is the offensive line not playing? They haven't played together.

2751
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 1: It's a brand new offensive line. There's eight padded practices?

2752
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: Is eight product practices in preseason? Why are we not playing?

2753
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Can I can?

2754
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 3: I put a pin in it right now?

2755
02:11:57,080 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm here and say we're gonna talk next in two days.

2756
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:03,879
Speaker 4: Our dude's episode is gonna be a whole yeah preview.

2757
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,200
Speaker 4: So let's audience go listen to dudes if you want

2758
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 4: to get the rest of preseason.

2759
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, see the.

2760
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,240
Speaker 1: Things that I gotta pump the brakes on. You still

2761
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: gotta pump the breaks on your door?

2762
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah you, yes you do.

2763
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you fashing the gas on regardless

2764
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 1: for a late round guy, a late round guy to

2765
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 1: go out and look as shark look as good as

2766
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, that that shows you he can play football.

2767
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 1: You put better players around him, he's gonna he's gonna

2768
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: probably get a little better, you know what I mean.

2769
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 1: I know the scheme's probably vanilla as fuck, meaning it's basic.

2770
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 1: A lot of the times, you know, these teams have

2771
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 1: seen each other twice in practice, they go out there

2772
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 1: in the game day and they run a bunch of

2773
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 1: basic ass ship just to see who can get open

2774
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 1: on what andy.

2775
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 3: They load the deck for him. But he looked good.

2776
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he made throws, He sat in the puck, his

2777
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: eyes were downfield the whole time because.

2778
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 3: That one play.

2779
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,680
Speaker 4: We did the little like backtrack twice always.

2780
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:02,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, dude, I was, I was like,

2781
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: fuck yeah, even though I don't I don't agree with

2782
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 1: some of the ship that Shador does like and how

2783
02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 1: he approaches things, but to go out there and bet

2784
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: on your like not bet on yourself, but like this

2785
02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 1: is like this was his little super Bowl and he

2786
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:21,400
Speaker 1: played it, played it well. That's how you got to

2787
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,280
Speaker 1: think about it. That's how you got to think about

2788
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 1: it if you want to make it as that kind

2789
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:28,280
Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah, and he went out there. Now, then

2790
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:30,880
Speaker 1: you know what the next test is again, how does

2791
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 1: he react? And it's all part of the evaluation process,

2792
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,120
Speaker 1: And that's what we really are at right now. That's

2793
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't understand. You know, we're

2794
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:42,760
Speaker 1: still evaluating our team. We don't know what our team

2795
02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: is Chicago Bears. We haven't even called to play as

2796
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 1: as this team. And we're gonna have an opportunity for

2797
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:54,160
Speaker 1: our young quarterback, our young offensive linement, our young team,

2798
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 1: our team that's ever played against each other, our team

2799
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 1: that barely gets to practice with each other with the

2800
02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:59,880
Speaker 1: new CBA rules, and we're just gonna let him fucking

2801
02:13:59,880 --> 02:14:04,440
Speaker 1: go out and they just shoot stroke JoJo's that's crazy

2802
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 1: to me.

2803
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Monday night in Minnesota, Monday not

2804
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 3: against Minnesota.

2805
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 1: Now, Ben's now Ben Johnson was not playing them big

2806
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 1: week one now, a big bet, Like he's not ready,

2807
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 1: But that's this is the part to get him ready,

2808
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:23,320
Speaker 1: Like he needs to feel that there's gonna be losses

2809
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:24,800
Speaker 1: in the game, you know what I mean. So I

2810
02:14:24,840 --> 02:14:27,320
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck they were thinking. I don't

2811
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 1: understand how everyone got the memo. Tua played in preseason

2812
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 1: and we're not playing our second year quarterback that's in

2813
02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:41,160
Speaker 1: a new system, new scheme, new players all around him,

2814
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 1: new team, new play caller. We're not gonna play him that.

2815
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that was That was a scratch the

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02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:51,720
Speaker 1: head moment for me. So I'm smashing on the gas

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02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:52,160
Speaker 1: on that one.

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02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 3: I like that.

2819
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:53,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

2820
02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:55,320
Speaker 3: Should we rip one more? Here? What we got?

2821
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:58,720
Speaker 5: You already kind of said, who you're pumping the brakes on,

2822
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:01,840
Speaker 5: smashing the gas in the breaks on Shador and also

2823
02:15:01,880 --> 02:15:07,640
Speaker 5: smashing the gas And he's also my clutch is a

2824
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:09,120
Speaker 5: little fucked right now to my Mustang.

2825
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:10,480
Speaker 3: Gotta take this into Frank.

2826
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:13,320
Speaker 1: I know I am pumping the brakes on him, but

2827
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:15,200
Speaker 1: you also got to take it for what it is.

2828
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:17,080
Speaker 1: The guy went out there, you tested him, you threw

2829
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:20,800
Speaker 1: everything at him, and he fucking handled it. Yeah, first

2830
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:23,920
Speaker 1: test past past Yeah. Now I don't know about the

2831
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:27,160
Speaker 1: test before. I don't know how many tests we've already taken.

2832
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 1: But that was, like, that was cool to see shout

2833
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:33,520
Speaker 1: out Shador, shout out just you know, be seen not heard, bumps,

2834
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:36,120
Speaker 1: be seen not heard. And that's that's what that was.

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02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 1: That was being seen through your play.

2836
02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 4: Can we can we smash the gas on Chevon Henderson?

2837
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Electric electric?

2838
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 1: But what I say when I came back pumped the

2839
02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 1: brakes No, I oh but him?

2840
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2841
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2842
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:54,920
Speaker 4: And like not was he just electric? And he had

2843
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 4: that kick return. But then also this is out of

2844
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 4: date whatever we recording this before the second preseason game.

2845
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 4: But he was like unning with like anger, like not

2846
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:04,880
Speaker 4: like hitting guys and like, you know.

2847
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:06,360
Speaker 3: What this reminds me of.

2848
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:11,880
Speaker 1: This reminds me of because there was a first rounder

2849
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 1: that went from Ohio State.

2850
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:16,080
Speaker 3: Where'd he go? Browns? It's the it's the Sony Michelle

2851
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 3: Nick switch. Did we get the we did we do this? Switch?

2852
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 5: Now?

2853
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 1: Sony had a great career, incredible player, and he helped us,

2854
02:16:24,440 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 1: but like you look at the longevity of that. He

2855
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 1: had bad knees. He didn't get to continue his career

2856
02:16:29,720 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 1: because of that. And Chubb was I mean he was.

2857
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 1: We were talking about him being on the cover of

2858
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 1: Matten a couple of times. Almost you know what I mean,

2859
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:42,720
Speaker 1: maybe we get the reverse. This seems like like a

2860
02:16:42,879 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we should cut that. I want

2861
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 1: to talk about like we'll cut that. But Henderson, I

2862
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,560
Speaker 1: think he's you know, I was impressed when I saw

2863
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:57,000
Speaker 1: him at work at practice. You know, he's a smart guy.

2864
02:16:58,680 --> 02:17:02,240
Speaker 1: He I think he's a very mature guy. The guy

2865
02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:06,000
Speaker 1: everyone speaks very highly of him as a professional, meaning

2866
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:08,360
Speaker 1: he works and so if you think about what is

2867
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 1: his pre draft grade. Everyone talked about how he knew

2868
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 1: protections and stuff. So you know that he's working. He's

2869
02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:17,359
Speaker 1: in the classroom, he's doing his behind.

2870
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 3: The work work.

2871
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,119
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for that. That's gonna be a good

2872
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 1: You gotta stay healthy. We gotta stay healthy.

2873
02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 4: He feels like he was almost just like designed in

2874
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:33,720
Speaker 4: a Josh McDaniel's lab for like a prototypical like running

2875
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:34,240
Speaker 4: back for him.

2876
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:38,600
Speaker 3: We'll see. I'm excited for this, though, We'll see. Got hope, baby,

2877
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:41,560
Speaker 3: we got some hope. All right. Well, that was another

2878
02:17:41,720 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 3: edition of I'm gonna pump.

2879
02:17:42,879 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 1: The gas no or wait, I'm gonna pump the brakes

2880
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:48,720
Speaker 1: on the Patriots though hype. We gotta we gotta pump

2881
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 1: the brakes on it.

2882
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:53,680
Speaker 3: We don't know what happened in the second pieces. Just

2883
02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 3: because it was good.

2884
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:00,360
Speaker 1: We still had a colossal fuck up with are one

2885
02:18:00,440 --> 02:18:04,280
Speaker 1: team backwards? Oh jeez, Like we got to eliminate that.

2886
02:18:04,720 --> 02:18:06,880
Speaker 1: We can't be going up and he hasn't turned them

2887
02:18:06,879 --> 02:18:08,600
Speaker 1: all overall camp I heard, you know.

2888
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 3: But we can't have that in game day.

2889
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 1: That's like, that's how you lose. I've seen it firsthand.

2890
02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:18,680
Speaker 1: We've done ship like that. We lose those games, you

2891
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:22,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But like that's where that's a

2892
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:24,840
Speaker 1: coachable thing. All right, the second what was it? It

2893
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 1: wasn't even that like a third down? Was it was

2894
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:27,720
Speaker 1: a play action?

2895
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? He could have just ate it. Yeah, what are

2896
02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:31,119
Speaker 3: we doing yet?

2897
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:35,960
Speaker 1: He's but he's gonna learn that, hopefully. I'm excited preseason football.

2898
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:42,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching so much. The crazy thing with preseason football,

2899
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 1: though you only watch I'll watch in depth, like the

2900
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:50,560
Speaker 1: first five drives of each game, and then I'll let

2901
02:18:50,600 --> 02:18:52,600
Speaker 1: a game play and you'll watch the highlights. But like

2902
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 1: that's where you have to dial in because those are

2903
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:58,119
Speaker 1: like the things that they've coached a bunch. Those first

2904
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,640
Speaker 1: few drives, you could see what their fundamental coaching of

2905
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 1: their scheme system is, what they're gonna do. That's like

2906
02:19:06,280 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 1: their vanilla version of it. You can see where it

2907
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:11,520
Speaker 1: can morph out of it, and you can see who's

2908
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:15,280
Speaker 1: been executing at a high level at practice. And that's

2909
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:18,320
Speaker 1: ultimately what these games are for. When people say there's

2910
02:19:18,760 --> 02:19:22,680
Speaker 1: I hate when people say why do we have preseason

2911
02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 1: because you feel so many different things than you do

2912
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:31,400
Speaker 1: at a practice when you have to go through the operation. Okay,

2913
02:19:31,959 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 1: I remember the first preseason game, like last week or

2914
02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:38,360
Speaker 1: like like it's yesterday, the friday before you have Ivan

2915
02:19:38,440 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 1: Fears come in and we have to do a walkthrough

2916
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 1: of how we have to teach the warm up before

2917
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 1: the game because you have ninety guys out there. There's

2918
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:52,360
Speaker 1: so many little logistical, operational, stupid things that go into

2919
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:55,760
Speaker 1: playing a professional football game that you don't want to

2920
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:58,440
Speaker 1: feel on the for the first time, on a regular

2921
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:01,960
Speaker 1: season game where every ever things on the line, you

2922
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:06,400
Speaker 1: gotta experience that. You gotta experience coming off a drive

2923
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:10,080
Speaker 1: where it wasn't great, meeting with your coach, going over

2924
02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 1: the pictures, going over the next drive, the communication for

2925
02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:16,200
Speaker 1: what the next drive is going to be, you know,

2926
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:19,560
Speaker 1: the defense, the looks that they're seeing, what's the that

2927
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:22,560
Speaker 1: adaptive like you need that. So people that say the

2928
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 1: preseason is a bunch of hoo blah, are are They

2929
02:20:27,440 --> 02:20:29,440
Speaker 1: don't They don't know the game? No, it's fact, And

2930
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,600
Speaker 1: it's also a huge part of the evaluation of which

2931
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 1: guys are engaged during that and which guys are not.

2932
02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 1: Because you're gonna be with this guy for twenty weeks.

2933
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know I mean, I'm in the game.

2934
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:43,520
Speaker 3: You need more preseason.

2935
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:45,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to sloppy football come week one and

2936
02:20:45,959 --> 02:20:47,800
Speaker 5: week two and week three, like Yeah, that's why we

2937
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:48,360
Speaker 5: keep seeing it.

2938
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's why I think we I mean, I've

2939
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:54,440
Speaker 1: been in TV for four years now. I feel like

2940
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 1: every beginning part of the year we talk about how

2941
02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,200
Speaker 1: offensive lines are not getting the work.

2942
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:02,840
Speaker 3: You know, they're not gelling, you know, there's no time.

2943
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:07,240
Speaker 1: It's because it's the hardest position to get timing with

2944
02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:10,440
Speaker 1: that you need through contact. You need to have those

2945
02:21:10,879 --> 02:21:14,000
Speaker 1: set and nine on seven periods in practice where it's

2946
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:17,360
Speaker 1: just group run against the defense, ones versus ones.

2947
02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 3: You need that one on one.

2948
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 1: Pass sets, uh, you know, pass set, pass defender trying

2949
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:26,800
Speaker 1: to get to the court. You need that stuff for

2950
02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 1: these guys to learn. They need to communicate while they're

2951
02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:31,000
Speaker 1: doing it, you know. And so you're seeing a lot

2952
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 1: of these coaches Zach Taylor, which he's also you know,

2953
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:41,520
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about the Bengals situation too. Burrow's been

2954
02:21:41,640 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 1: hurt a lot, a lot of those camps. He had

2955
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:46,279
Speaker 1: the penixitis, he had the knee, he had the fucking

2956
02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:48,600
Speaker 1: risks last year that they were kind of like no

2957
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:51,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ever had this risk thing and he showed that

2958
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 1: he's fine, but like.

2959
02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:55,480
Speaker 3: That's part of it.

2960
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:59,760
Speaker 1: But like that's that's that's hard for the Hey, you know,

2961
02:21:59,800 --> 02:22:03,000
Speaker 1: I I've been really tough on Zach just like you

2962
02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:05,080
Speaker 1: gotta change. But then I think about it like that

2963
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:08,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and never they've had so many distractions pre

2964
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:10,560
Speaker 1: or this that you know what I mean, It's tough,

2965
02:22:10,600 --> 02:22:11,400
Speaker 1: but that's part of it.

2966
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:14,160
Speaker 3: That's part of it. And this off season is not

2967
02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 3: different with the Bengals this year.

2968
02:22:16,320 --> 02:22:19,000
Speaker 4: I love the Bengals with with Hey, they can stop something,

2969
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 4: They're gonna do something this year.

2970
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 3: I think Al Golden can get that defense tightened up

2971
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,360
Speaker 3: a little bit. Why don't we wrap this up all right?

2972
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Speaker 1: to Paul Pierce. Always loved catching up with him. But

2977
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 1: we didn't even ask him about the goddamn walk it

2978
02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:44,360
Speaker 1: was in there.

2979
02:22:45,360 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 3: We didn't get to it. I want those dogs still

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Speaker 3: got to be barking dog Man in the house shoes.

2981
02:22:52,480 --> 02:22:55,720
Speaker 3: He really was. Well fucking love Paul. That's man.

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