Speaker 1: Episode one, Home Renovations on a Budget. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to save money, embrace simplicity,
Speaker 1: and live with your life. Here your host Jen and Jill.
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Speaker 1: My name is Jen. Hi friends, I'm Jill, and today
Speaker 1: we are talking about home renovations, which is something Jill
Speaker 1: knows a lot about and I know a little about nothing.
Speaker 1: You know things, Jen, don't undercut yourself, but yes, this
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Speaker 1: if this is something that you are interested in and
Speaker 1: you want to queue up a few more episodes, we
Speaker 1: haven't done one in a while, so this is way
Speaker 1: way way in the way back machine. Episode fifteen we
Speaker 1: did one on like how to save money on home
Speaker 1: decor um, and then episode twenty three we had some
Speaker 1: d I y home maintenance tips, so I know those
Speaker 1: were very long time ago. And still this is a
Speaker 1: bit different because we're talking about renovation, not just home
Speaker 1: repair decorating your house, but what if we want to
Speaker 1: upgrade it, we really want to increase the value of
Speaker 1: our homes, or we're living in an apartment so we're renting,
Speaker 1: but we still want it to look pretty. What are
Speaker 1: some things we can do? Although this is probably going
Speaker 1: to be more into the weeds with actual repair, so
Speaker 1: your landlord might not let you do some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: but who knows our landlord did We did it maybe
Speaker 1: full on renovation in one of the apartments we lived. Actually,
Speaker 1: we realize every single place we've lived we've done some
Speaker 1: version of a renovation on that place. And we only
Speaker 1: just bought our first home this year, and we've lived
Speaker 1: in like nine other places and we renovated all of them.
Speaker 1: Our landlords just trusted us, I guess. And this is
Speaker 1: why this is your episode, Jill. So the first one
Speaker 1: we've got, this one is from Family Handyman and it
Speaker 1: is fifteen home renovations you can do right now. So
Speaker 1: these are the ones that you can do yourself. You
Speaker 1: don't have to hire out, and you will get back
Speaker 1: all of the bang your buck put in, hopefully maybe
Speaker 1: depending on if you do a good job or not.
Speaker 1: I will say from the start the way that we
Speaker 1: save money on home renovations is doing it ourselves. That
Speaker 1: is the majority of the costs that you spend. I
Speaker 1: mean only materials do cost money. That is a big expense,
Speaker 1: just the materials that it costs. But if you are
Speaker 1: able to do the work yourself, you will save between
Speaker 1: thirty to sixty per cent. That that is the markup
Speaker 1: of home repair when you pay someone to do it
Speaker 1: for you. Certainly, and we'll talk about this, there are
Speaker 1: things that you don't want to try if you're not
Speaker 1: skilled in it, you don't have training in it. But
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to be as afraid of doing as we
Speaker 1: might be. It doesn't mean that we're going to do
Speaker 1: it perfectly the first time the second time, but it
Speaker 1: is a worthwhile skill set to build up is doing
Speaker 1: things ourselves, doing some of these home innovations ourselves. So
Speaker 1: I think this is a great list what they list
Speaker 1: out on the family handyman and the first one I'll
Speaker 1: just start us off is painting. Pretty obvious, this is
Speaker 1: one of the most easiest trades to be able to
Speaker 1: pick up and do yourself. Still, surprisingly there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are not good at painting, so definitely
Speaker 1: no know your skill set, know what you're good at.
Speaker 1: Watch some videos beforehand. Thank goodness for YouTube, there's so
Speaker 1: much we can learn and watch people on how do
Speaker 1: they do it? What is a good technique? They even
Speaker 1: mentioned in here that one of the keys to a
Speaker 1: good paint job is covering up nail holes and cracks,
Speaker 1: So even being able to do a little bit of
Speaker 1: speckling ahead of time would filler standing. Of course that
Speaker 1: is next level. There's YouTube for that too, but certainly
Speaker 1: painting a room, a couple of rooms can really upgrade things.
Speaker 1: I have painted cabinets. That has been my frugal way
Speaker 1: of updating bathrooms or even kitchens is to be able
Speaker 1: to paint the cabinets. Again, I would recommend doing some research,
Speaker 1: even asking the people at the paint store for what's needed.
Speaker 1: Definitely don't skip that when it comes to cabinets because
Speaker 1: there is a lot of wear and tear on them,
Speaker 1: So doing a really nice base coat that the paint
Speaker 1: will stick to, and and so I would I would
Speaker 1: go a little bit more high end with the paint
Speaker 1: that you do get for cabinets, again just because it's
Speaker 1: you're touching them so much, but those types of things,
Speaker 1: paint can do a world of difference on cabinets and
Speaker 1: walls and molding and doors. So start there. Love that tip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think when so when you moved into your house, Jill,
Speaker 1: and you brought your friend to paint because you were
Speaker 1: already anticipating, Like, it's not just the paint that is
Speaker 1: the big job on this one. The painting is actually
Speaker 1: like the easy part. It's all of the prep work
Speaker 1: that is the real job. Out about the prep, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't forget to factor in prep work. We can buy
Speaker 1: our paint cans and get our paint brushes and think
Speaker 1: we're just going to dive in. But there's so much
Speaker 1: that needs to happen at a time, like the spackling,
Speaker 1: maybe even some cocking, especially if you're going to be painting,
Speaker 1: trim and cleaning it is so important. I see so
Speaker 1: many people just wanting to skip that part. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to paint on a dirty wall, it will
Speaker 1: show through. You're going to get a lot of debris
Speaker 1: in the paint, and sometimes you don't even realize that
Speaker 1: maybe there's stuff on the wall. I know that when
Speaker 1: we bought our house there was like tape and stickers
Speaker 1: and like gum, yeah there were there were some teenagers
Speaker 1: in some of these rooms. So having cleaned it with
Speaker 1: you know, less imperfections on the wall. Um, So getting
Speaker 1: a good cleaner putting in that prep time because it
Speaker 1: is going to make a world of difference. Another one
Speaker 1: on here is to add a back splash. And while
Speaker 1: I don't love the backsplash they chose for the picture
Speaker 1: in this article, it is something it's you can like
Speaker 1: splurge to get a nicer tile or maybe one that
Speaker 1: may be easier to lay because it is a smaller area,
Speaker 1: and you can also afford to make a few mistakes
Speaker 1: because it's a smaller area and things are typically in
Speaker 1: front of the tile, like small appliances or you know,
Speaker 1: all of your clutter and stuff like that. So this
Speaker 1: is something that can be a wow if you are
Speaker 1: trying to change up something for higher resale value, or
Speaker 1: you maybe see a backsplash in a house that you
Speaker 1: don't like, or you have one you don't like and
Speaker 1: you want to get a prettier one. I would even
Speaker 1: add to this it doesn't have to be tile. Tile
Speaker 1: does take a next level skill, not that you couldn't
Speaker 1: learn it, And for those of you go getters, I
Speaker 1: would encourage you if you want to tackle a tile job,
Speaker 1: do it. There's some really nice tiles out there that are,
Speaker 1: as you said, Jen, not not even that expensive. I mean, thankfully,
Speaker 1: subway tile has had its heyday and it's very inexpensive.
Speaker 1: But if you don't want to have to deal with
Speaker 1: tile cutting, measuring, grouting all of that, there are some
Speaker 1: really awesome alternatives. I don't like the picture that's shown
Speaker 1: in here either, but there are these essentially like stick
Speaker 1: on type back splashes that you can get that are
Speaker 1: easily cut out, easy to kind of stick on your wall,
Speaker 1: super wipe able. So checking out you know, your local
Speaker 1: home depot, lows, whatever, you might be able to find
Speaker 1: some some easily d i y solutions for backsplashes. I've
Speaker 1: also seen I'm gonna tread lightly here because it's is
Speaker 1: a little bit going against my own grain. Eric and
Speaker 1: I used to have a home renovations business as like
Speaker 1: a side hustle and our main hustle at one point,
Speaker 1: so we're definitely all about some more high end types
Speaker 1: of home repair. But I have seen this done and
Speaker 1: it can look decent. Is getting a really high end,
Speaker 1: very wipeable even wall paper for a backsplash, So definitely
Speaker 1: do some research. I think Etsy has some really great options,
Speaker 1: um or just doing a Google search of a wallpaper
Speaker 1: that could be a backsplash. Again, you're really gonna want
Speaker 1: it to be wipeable. You're gonna want to make sure
Speaker 1: that the adhesive is really good. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: reason they call it a backsplash. It gets wet, it
Speaker 1: can get things splashed on it. But I've seen people
Speaker 1: do that before and it's turned out really decent. So
Speaker 1: definitely roam the aisles of your local home repair place.
Speaker 1: There are some really great alternatives for those of us
Speaker 1: who want to d I y this. The next one
Speaker 1: on the list, which I like as well, is even
Speaker 1: thinking about the exterior of our homes. So improving our entryway,
Speaker 1: whether that means throwing a quick code of paint or
Speaker 1: two or three doors usually need three, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: on your front door can make such a difference. And
Speaker 1: even choosing a fun color something that could make the
Speaker 1: front of your house pop, and then considering plants around
Speaker 1: the front and that can be found at your local
Speaker 1: by nothing group or propagated from a friend's yard, you
Speaker 1: name it. Again, this doesn't have to cost a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I know. We've also talked in other episodes
Speaker 1: about lawn maintenance that you could even check your city
Speaker 1: for free mulch. So finding some inexpensive, low cost even
Speaker 1: freeways to make the exterior of your home look nice. Yes,
Speaker 1: here's one that you guys did, Jill that I didn't
Speaker 1: even think about. But when I saw, I was like,
Speaker 1: it just really stood out And it was new hardware.
Speaker 1: You got new hardware like handles for your doors, And
Speaker 1: I didn't even think I wouldn't even think about that,
Speaker 1: but you did it, and they were so beautiful, and
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that you bought really expensive hardware, but
Speaker 1: it did make a difference. It can be that is
Speaker 1: the surprising thing. Door knobs, handles, pulls, all of those
Speaker 1: things can really add up. But like you say, Jen,
Speaker 1: it's something that's easy to do ourselves and does make
Speaker 1: a nice upgrade to a home, especially when you've got
Speaker 1: mismatched handles everywhere. And I always feel really accomplished. I
Speaker 1: would not consider myself like a contractor, but I'm able
Speaker 1: to change out hardware and so even that like sense
Speaker 1: of accomplishment, like I used my screwdriver and I put
Speaker 1: this in and it works now, so that's fun and
Speaker 1: having it all matched. So I wouldn't say it was
Speaker 1: incredibly inexpensive, although you can find that right there's plenty
Speaker 1: of people getting rid of their old hardware on Facebook
Speaker 1: market place. You can buy used certainly, but depending on
Speaker 1: if you've got a certain style in mind, you might
Speaker 1: need to spend a little bit more. But again, yes,
Speaker 1: it's that we're not talking thousands of dollars by any means,
Speaker 1: and it does make a big difference. It does make
Speaker 1: a big difference. The next one is cock. I love
Speaker 1: this one again. It's it is one that requires a
Speaker 1: bit more skill. But you don't have to be a
Speaker 1: trained construction worker to be able to cock something and
Speaker 1: shout out YouTube. But cocking can what's the term, um,
Speaker 1: do your best cock the rest? That is a construction
Speaker 1: workers saying for those who are not as great with
Speaker 1: all of the joints of would work. But when we
Speaker 1: see gaps in the molding, in the ceiling, anywhere where
Speaker 1: you've got wood that's meeting up with each other, or
Speaker 1: wood meeting up to a wall, and you've got gaps,
Speaker 1: Cocking those gaps can it just may give it such
Speaker 1: a more clean look. That's another one of those minor things.
Speaker 1: But once it's done, you realize what a big difference
Speaker 1: it can make when you're not seeing all these gaps everywhere,
Speaker 1: gaps around the windows, gaps along the molding, door trim.
Speaker 1: So getting some cock and cocking that again YouTube it.
Speaker 1: It can take a little bit of time to figure out.
Speaker 1: My best tip is do a smaller cut at the
Speaker 1: end of the nozzle of the cock tube. Then you
Speaker 1: can get a finer beat of cock along your lines.
Speaker 1: And edges. So don't don't chop off a ton at
Speaker 1: the end of the cock gun, because then that's when
Speaker 1: you get just a whole mess. It's like what do
Speaker 1: I do with all those clocks? So make sure it's
Speaker 1: You can always cut more off, right, It's like a haircut.
Speaker 1: You can always cut more off, but you can't add
Speaker 1: more to it. So start really small with how much
Speaker 1: you cut off at the tip of the cock gun.
Speaker 1: That's a good tip, and then you can paint over it.
Speaker 1: So just do a quick beat of cock. I would
Speaker 1: even say changing out the cock on your tub, So
Speaker 1: scraping it out if you're starting to notice, hey, just
Speaker 1: cleaning is not getting rid of some of this mold
Speaker 1: that's starting to happen, or the soap scum that's building up,
Speaker 1: scrape that out. You're gonna want silicone because it's water right,
Speaker 1: water is going to touch it. But changing out the
Speaker 1: cock in the tub, that was another thing that we
Speaker 1: did that just made it look so much more clean.
Speaker 1: Just a white cock around it. Especially when bleach isn't
Speaker 1: isn't get into it, that's when you got to replace
Speaker 1: that redo it. Those are great tips. Here's another one
Speaker 1: in my house, that I didn't realize it's so little,
Speaker 1: but it did. It was such a kind of wow
Speaker 1: factor for me when we were buying our house. Is
Speaker 1: actually one of the outlets was UM like a brand
Speaker 1: new outlet that also had like USB, like built in
Speaker 1: USB UM outlet in it. So this one is replaced
Speaker 1: outlets and switches so they're not super expensive. You don't
Speaker 1: have to do every single outlet, but maybe so ours
Speaker 1: is the one right by our our couch. Is has
Speaker 1: one plug and then two USB courts so that we
Speaker 1: can plug in our phones while we're sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch and that's super easy. And it's not even like
Speaker 1: you can't just plug in an outlet, you know, regular
Speaker 1: outlet thing to charge your phones. But it's just unique
Speaker 1: and it's something that stood out to me when we
Speaker 1: were buying our house that I thought was a really
Speaker 1: cool personal touch. I don't know why that just that
Speaker 1: was really cool for me. And yeah, doable to install. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is one of the first things that we do
Speaker 1: Eric and I when we when we move into a
Speaker 1: new place. I love this list so much because it
Speaker 1: is it feels like all of the things that we
Speaker 1: will come in and do to a place immediately before
Speaker 1: we start knocking out walls and completely gutting things. These
Speaker 1: are some of just the aesthetic pieces that will do
Speaker 1: that do make a big difference. And so houses that
Speaker 1: might have ivory outlets and covers everywhere we'll switch out
Speaker 1: for white. Again, that's a minor electrical job that you
Speaker 1: could learn to do. As far as actually changing out
Speaker 1: the outlets itself, the g f I s maybe you'd
Speaker 1: want to hire somebody to do that if you're not,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to learn how to do that yourself,
Speaker 1: But certainly the covers, changing out the covers is very
Speaker 1: easy and that doesn't involve any electrical work, So that
Speaker 1: does make a big difference. And then, like you said, Jen,
Speaker 1: with even some of those higher end things just being
Speaker 1: able to plug in a USB or more more up
Speaker 1: to date technology wise. This next one, this is another
Speaker 1: we call it the Eric and Jill special. Like when
Speaker 1: we will come in and upgrade a bathroom, just a
Speaker 1: quick refresh of a bathroom. Like I've already mentioned, it
Speaker 1: would be the changing out of the light fixtures, new handles,
Speaker 1: and then painting the cabinets and this on changing out
Speaker 1: the faucet and sink so rather than before we jump
Speaker 1: to buying a whole new vanity, considering can this be
Speaker 1: just updated in a way that looks nice, but I
Speaker 1: don't need to replace the whole thing, and oftentimes those
Speaker 1: minor changes can do that. So just getting new faucets,
Speaker 1: and thankfully faucets can be really inexpensive on Amazon. You
Speaker 1: can even find them at places like Restore. That's habitat
Speaker 1: for Humanity Is. It's essentially like a thrift store, but
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of home reyno things. They're like vanities, faucets, tile,
Speaker 1: So that's one of our favorite places to go. So
Speaker 1: just replacing the faucet again that that is a simple
Speaker 1: plumbing job that with some YouTube you could tackle as
Speaker 1: a homeowner and can make a big difference. I also
Speaker 1: like this is one that I'm capable of. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: swapped the deck, which is just clean, clean the deck,
Speaker 1: clean the outside of your house, clean it, clean it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's all speaking of that, Yes, cleaning it and
Speaker 1: even pressure washing. So whether you borrow from a friend
Speaker 1: or you rent one, pressure washing is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things to do, and it makes a big, big
Speaker 1: different satisfying for the exterior of your house. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: pressure washed our driveway, our sidewalk, our entire house, all
Speaker 1: of it and it looked brand new, like where I thought,
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're going to need to paint this place
Speaker 1: again soon. I just pressure wash. I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: that color excellent. That'll do for now. And surely you
Speaker 1: have a friend who has a pressure washer, or you
Speaker 1: can go on the buy nothing group and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: does any have a pressure washer? I can borrow and
Speaker 1: find one if you don't want to buy one. Yes.
Speaker 1: The next one is lay your own floor. They specifically
Speaker 1: say tile. Um. I would say, there's certainly other types
Speaker 1: of flooring that is pretty user friendly. I know some
Speaker 1: of the new laminate floorings is like this clicking lock system.
Speaker 1: There's certainly cuts and measurements that you'd have to make,
Speaker 1: depending on and especially depending on how complicated a room is.
Speaker 1: This is again it's one of those next level types
Speaker 1: of projects. But certainly for the go get or somebody
Speaker 1: who wants a challenge, wants to try their hand at something.
Speaker 1: This would be a home renovation that I would say
Speaker 1: we can do on our own. Maybe you'll need to
Speaker 1: call up a friend who's good at it. Again, check
Speaker 1: out YouTube, But I wouldn't say that this is two
Speaker 1: above and beyond laying our own floor. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it would definitely take some time depending on how much
Speaker 1: you're doing. But if you want to try, start with
Speaker 1: something small, like a like a bathroom or something and
Speaker 1: see if you are good at it, if you like it,
Speaker 1: or if you're absolutely not having any of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: starting the room you don't go too very often where
Speaker 1: you can close the door if it doesn't go that well,
Speaker 1: oh yes, that's that's great. This one is probably the
Speaker 1: last one on the list for me that I really liked.
Speaker 1: Its upgrade your lighting that is super easy to do.
Speaker 1: Amazon has a ton of lighting fixtures, and I know
Speaker 1: I listened to like kind of fix and flip podcasts,
Speaker 1: like real estate podcasts, and I was like they always
Speaker 1: say like, Okay, where do you get your stuff? Um,
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, you could go to home Depot
Speaker 1: or lows, but like, we just go to Amazon because
Speaker 1: they've got everything and they've got free returns and two
Speaker 1: day shipping and so we just go there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean check fixing out light. That was another thing
Speaker 1: in our house when we went in, it had unique
Speaker 1: lighting fixtures. And that was something that stood out for
Speaker 1: us and was a big selling feature. And it's not
Speaker 1: it's like they're just lighting fixtures that I wouldn't think
Speaker 1: to buy on my own, and that's kind of what
Speaker 1: made them unique and that I liked them. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: thankfully with buy nothing groups, Facebook, market Place, yard sales,
Speaker 1: estate sales, you name it, we can find some really
Speaker 1: cool lighting. And again I'll shout out Restore. We have
Speaker 1: found some really great lighting fixtures at places like Restore,
Speaker 1: So check out if you've got one of those Habitat
Speaker 1: for Humanity thrift stores in your area. I will also
Speaker 1: add to the lighting piece. Eric used to be an
Speaker 1: electrician before we even had our home innovations business together.
Speaker 1: Super great skill to have. He hated it, but it
Speaker 1: was great skilled and he still utilizes it in the
Speaker 1: places we live. One of the things he would often
Speaker 1: do and encourage homeowners to do that we don't often
Speaker 1: think about but usually makes such a big difference would
Speaker 1: be under cabinet lighting. And there's some really great systems
Speaker 1: that you could absolutely do yourself. Of course, you could
Speaker 1: go higher end and it might be a little bit
Speaker 1: more of skilled labor work, but putting in some sort
Speaker 1: of lighting under the cabinets in your kitchen really does
Speaker 1: a number on not only providing extra lighting for what
Speaker 1: while you're working, but also really great aesthetically pleasing lighting
Speaker 1: for when you're maybe like you want all the lights
Speaker 1: in your kitchen off, but you can turn on the
Speaker 1: under cabinet lights and it just looks really nice, especially
Speaker 1: after you've done that backsplash in your kitchen. So that's
Speaker 1: another inexpensive upgrade that really makes a big difference. And
Speaker 1: the last one on here that I want to talk
Speaker 1: about is they mentioned spray painting your cabinets. I want
Speaker 1: to be clear, they don't mean cans of spray paint.
Speaker 1: Please do not get cans of spray paint and make
Speaker 1: your kitchen countets. It will look awful. What they mean
Speaker 1: is like a paint sprayer. Again, this is something that
Speaker 1: you could ren maybe a friend has one. Check out
Speaker 1: your buy nothing groups. If you get a good sprayer,
Speaker 1: it can go quickly and you can you know you're
Speaker 1: not going to get those brushstrokes and that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing if you're going to paint your cabinets. I
Speaker 1: will say it is an incredible upgrade I've done. This
Speaker 1: is another one of my like kitchen rehnot specials. I've
Speaker 1: painted so many kitchen cabinets in my lifetime. I recommend
Speaker 1: taking the doors off, laying them all out, whether you
Speaker 1: take them to a basement or a garage or something
Speaker 1: and something where you're not going to get like, don't
Speaker 1: just take them outside, you're going to get debris in them.
Speaker 1: Take it to a place that you know you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of wind or debris falling on it.
Speaker 1: Lay them all out and either spray I will roll,
Speaker 1: or get special cabinet rollers some the really high end
Speaker 1: cabinet paint. This does make a big difference, and and
Speaker 1: I would recommend this as a way to upgrade your kitchen.
Speaker 1: All Right, So now that we've talked about the things
Speaker 1: you can do, let's talk about what you should do
Speaker 1: with the money you save from doing these things and
Speaker 1: the things that you should not d I y um.
Speaker 1: And So there's only five things on this list, but
Speaker 1: they are five very important things. So Jill take it
Speaker 1: away with this first one. The first one, do not
Speaker 1: d I Y electrical work. Yeah, if you have not
Speaker 1: been trained in electrical work, if you do not know
Speaker 1: what you're doing, it is better to just pay someone
Speaker 1: to come and do this work for you. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you have to, I mean it is a
Speaker 1: cost right, Like this is skilled labor people who have
Speaker 1: invested a lot of time and energy into learning this trade.
Speaker 1: So yes, let's pay them a good living wage, but
Speaker 1: also shop around, find a good electrician, find a fair electrician.
Speaker 1: But please don't do this yourself. There is a lot
Speaker 1: that can go wrong this you don't. Yeah, my husband
Speaker 1: is an electrician and he gets shocked all the time.
Speaker 1: That just happens with electricians. He comes to a family
Speaker 1: with electricians and that happens, and so, my goodness, how
Speaker 1: much more shocking if you don't know what you're doing
Speaker 1: and you can get really, really hurt and injured. It's
Speaker 1: amazing to me because I'm I don't have as much
Speaker 1: of a fear about it because Eric does it all
Speaker 1: the time and has done it at you know, for employment.
Speaker 1: But he will still often be like, Okay, no, don't
Speaker 1: get close to me. Okay, no, don't touch those two
Speaker 1: things together. Okay, I'm walking away, but don't touch that wire.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, like, there is a real danger
Speaker 1: to this. Sometimes I can become like just too accustomed
Speaker 1: to it, like, yeah, there's an exposed wire, Like, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it because I know. Okay, Eric's got it covered,
Speaker 1: but he takes it very seriously and it is like,
Speaker 1: don't go near it. So yes, please be aware, and
Speaker 1: if you are concerned, just tire someone. Yeah. The next
Speaker 1: one is don't d I y a garage door repair.
Speaker 1: And this is because it's uh not a job that
Speaker 1: can be done with tools you have lying around the house.
Speaker 1: The tools are specialized, and you don't want to spend
Speaker 1: money on specialized tools that you'll only use once. So
Speaker 1: if you have a garage door to install or fix,
Speaker 1: or you want to change out a garage door for
Speaker 1: curb appeal, Also, those things are like a hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to you don't want to drop
Speaker 1: it and be liable for that. So this is just
Speaker 1: something that you definitely want to get somebody who knows
Speaker 1: what they're doing. This one was an interesting one. I
Speaker 1: think this came up on a previous list in one
Speaker 1: of our episodes as well, and I remember asking Eric
Speaker 1: about it, like really, just like a garage door, what
Speaker 1: what's with that? And he offerd He's like, no, they
Speaker 1: can be really dangerous, mostly because of the springs. The
Speaker 1: springs are really big and hold a lot of tension,
Speaker 1: and people have gotten really injured trying to do this
Speaker 1: themselves without the right tools. But I think it's mostly
Speaker 1: the spring that's the dangerous part of it. Um And
Speaker 1: there's specific methods to be able to do this, So yeah,
Speaker 1: hire someone for that. And the next one, don't d
Speaker 1: i Y roof repair. Again, if this isn't something that
Speaker 1: you know how to do, you have experience with you
Speaker 1: are up at high heights and can absolutely fall off
Speaker 1: of that high height, And not to mention, roofs are
Speaker 1: really important and we can do ourselves a big disservice
Speaker 1: if we don't know what we're doing and cause more damage,
Speaker 1: or we you know, pop a nail where it shouldn't
Speaker 1: go and now we've got a leak. So yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of risks involved between falling off and causing
Speaker 1: more damage than what you're trying to fix. Just get
Speaker 1: someone else to do it. Yeah. The next one is
Speaker 1: don't d i Y tree remove all. So, if there
Speaker 1: is a tree somewhere on your property and you would
Speaker 1: like to remove it to make your property more beautiful,
Speaker 1: don't necessarily do that yourself because you can't well, I mean,
Speaker 1: some people can calculate the landing trajectory of a falling tree,
Speaker 1: others cannot. Other homes are just magnets for trees, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter like they'll just the tree will be
Speaker 1: falling one way and then the house just it's gravitational
Speaker 1: pull will be like nope, um, come here, and then
Speaker 1: the trees on your house. Uh So definitely, especially for
Speaker 1: tall trees, get professionals to do it now once the
Speaker 1: tree has already fallen, and maybe you can get a
Speaker 1: deal with someone where they take the tree down and
Speaker 1: you chop it up and you know, put it on
Speaker 1: the side of the road. We actually did that, not
Speaker 1: because we were trying to get a deal, but because
Speaker 1: it was a hurricane and they had hundreds of trees
Speaker 1: to do. They were like, Okay, we're gonna take it
Speaker 1: off of your house and then it's a free for all.
Speaker 1: You do what you want. You have to figure it
Speaker 1: out from there. Yeah. Um, So that could be a
Speaker 1: way maybe if you wanted to save money and you
Speaker 1: have skills with a you know whatever. Those room room
Speaker 1: things are chain sauce, chain sauce that may be a
Speaker 1: way to possibly save some money, but don't take the
Speaker 1: tree down. I am having so many flashbacks just to
Speaker 1: like all of my childhood, my dad trying to remove
Speaker 1: trees himself. Usually when okay, but there were always nailed
Speaker 1: by her moments, and it was usually when like one
Speaker 1: of his brothers would come in town or some friend
Speaker 1: who's just like, yeah, we can do this, and they
Speaker 1: never did fall the direction that they thought it was
Speaker 1: going to fall. Thankfully, I grew up on five acres
Speaker 1: and so it never really landed on anything other than
Speaker 1: maybe another tree. But yeah, this is like if you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing and it definitely is not
Speaker 1: going to go the way that you anticipated to go.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of room for error. Trees have a
Speaker 1: mind of their own that they do. And then the
Speaker 1: next thing on here, this isn't as much of a
Speaker 1: danger thing as much as it is maybe like a
Speaker 1: skill thing. They recommend not d I y ng your
Speaker 1: molding Like crown molding. It does require a lot of
Speaker 1: more precise cuts than one might think as you're trying
Speaker 1: to have corners meet up with each other. So again
Speaker 1: it's more about appearance. The other ones are about safety,
Speaker 1: so definitely higher out this one. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much I try it.
Speaker 1: You're definitely probably are not going to be that great
Speaker 1: at doing your room molding, but it's not a safety issue, okay.
Speaker 1: And everything else feel free to do yourself. I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the things that we save money
Speaker 1: in order to be able to pay for the things
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't do ourselves, or maybe the things that
Speaker 1: we just can't make the time for or don't want
Speaker 1: to make the time for. So stuff like crown molding
Speaker 1: might be that for you. You know what I do
Speaker 1: like to make the time for. Oh my gosh, I
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Speaker 1: some of these payoff goals. So well, Don Melissa, thanks
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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you about my bill of the week. UM.
Speaker 1: It happens to be my internet bill. And because I've
Speaker 1: been having just issues whenever it snows or rains or whatever. UM,
Speaker 1: I happen to call my internet provider and explained my issue,
Speaker 1: and they sent out someone to replace my entire neighborhood's line.
Speaker 1: But in addition, I asked, because I do work from
Speaker 1: home and don't have tables, so I only use streaming
Speaker 1: services other people streaming services, that's one bill I don't pay. UM,
Speaker 1: I was asking if there was a discount, and she
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Speaker 1: And now it's time for the learning round Choo choo choo.
Speaker 1: And now is the time of the show where we
Speaker 1: get honest and vulnerable and share our lives with you.
Speaker 1: So today we are going to share our home rehno,
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly, but first the good.
Speaker 1: So Jill tell us what's your good and bad. I'm
Speaker 1: honestly gosh, I'm like going through this rolodex of renovations
Speaker 1: and I've got to say, we have a really good
Speaker 1: experience with doing renovations. I guess it's partly why we started,
Speaker 1: aside hustle doing it, because we enjoy it, usually looks good,
Speaker 1: we can do it inexpensively. Our most recent renovation certainly
Speaker 1: include on our home a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: we mentioned in that first article of painting and replacing
Speaker 1: simple things. Pretty soon we're going to be doing a
Speaker 1: lot of demo tons of we love demoing. We started
Speaker 1: in the laundry room, the laundry rooms demo and got
Speaker 1: to rebuild that, then demo the kitchen. The good is
Speaker 1: that we've been able to make a lot of our
Speaker 1: places that we've lived in look really beautiful for really inexpensive,
Speaker 1: again because we did the work ourselves. So from motor
Speaker 1: homes that we've lived into, apartments that we've lived in,
Speaker 1: now our new home, we were able to purchase and
Speaker 1: affordable a home that needed work because we can do
Speaker 1: the work ourselves. So there's a lot of really good,
Speaker 1: amazing things to it. The bad parts, I would say,
Speaker 1: I don't have like a specific to say other than
Speaker 1: with any project, you run into barriers. So there are
Speaker 1: times and I would say it's usually in the middle
Speaker 1: of a project that I reached this like irritation, exhaustion,
Speaker 1: pull my hair out point, how are we going to
Speaker 1: get around this? On my goodness, there's water still leaking
Speaker 1: out of that pipe. Uh, plumbing, it's always plumbing. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's always plumbing. Plumbing. Wasn't on that don't do it
Speaker 1: yourself list? Yeah, that is true. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that can go wrong with it, as much
Speaker 1: as there's these like quick connect and clamps and pieces,
Speaker 1: that just seems like it usually takes a couple of
Speaker 1: rounds to finally stop that drip. Thankfully, Eric is a
Speaker 1: problem solver and determined and doesn't give up easily. That
Speaker 1: is something you need if you're going to do this yourself.
Speaker 1: Grit an ability to not give up easily. Eric's far
Speaker 1: better at that than I am. That there's we always
Speaker 1: reach this point of it seems like there's an overwhelming
Speaker 1: problem that we're not going to be able to get beyond,
Speaker 1: and then somehow we figure it out rainstorming, problem solving,
Speaker 1: walking away, coming back to it. Just know that that's
Speaker 1: part of this part of d I y Reynolds. But
Speaker 1: we're here for you, join us in the Frugal Friends
Speaker 1: Facebook community and talk about it with us, and we'll
Speaker 1: help you through it, even if it's just moral support.
Speaker 1: I was thinking for your story, is um your pinky story,
Speaker 1: which I guess isn't a reno related, but yes it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, thanks Jutting probably just blocked it out. These
Speaker 1: just awful memories. Injuries happened. Yeah. Absolutely, we've learned that
Speaker 1: super glue covers of multitude of sins. That we were
Speaker 1: doing a renovation that on a shirt. Yes, it's so true.
Speaker 1: This is how frugal I am. Here you go, Jen,
Speaker 1: you love this vulnerability. This is and this might even
Speaker 1: cross over into cheap Honestly, we were doing this kitchen
Speaker 1: renovation and because of that, there wasn't a sink in
Speaker 1: the kitchen at the time, and so we were washing
Speaker 1: dishes in the bathroom sink and I dropped a glass
Speaker 1: and and it broke, and I went to dive for
Speaker 1: it with my hand and just really sliced myself up.
Speaker 1: Blood everywhere this was in. This was actually like a
Speaker 1: client's home that I mean, it was a friend, but
Speaker 1: it was a renovation we were doing for them. Blood everywhere.
Speaker 1: They happened to be a Physicians Assistants p a S.
Speaker 1: So they had a lot of background. They weren't home
Speaker 1: at the time. Eric was his He was also a musician.
Speaker 1: I had him like drum on my leg to keep
Speaker 1: me from passing out because there's just like so much
Speaker 1: blood everywhere the I'm like, I'm going to pass out.
Speaker 1: So he just starts like drumming on my body to
Speaker 1: be able to help me not pass out. That did work,
Speaker 1: and then we called our friends and They're like, you
Speaker 1: should probably get stitches, and I'm like, no, I don't
Speaker 1: have health insurance. I can't do that. I can't go
Speaker 1: to the hospital anyhow. We just superglued it. And I've
Speaker 1: got a really nasty scar on my pinky and it's
Speaker 1: been about four years and it's still is like numb
Speaker 1: in certain spots. But you know what, I avoided a
Speaker 1: medical bill and then I was cleaning recently. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: isn't sending me endorsed, but it is a story that
Speaker 1: we can tell and look back on with wisdom in hindsights.
Speaker 1: Have someone drum on you so you don't pass out,
Speaker 1: get super glue instead of stitches, you know, save yourself
Speaker 1: some money. Moving on, you wanted vulnerable. This is what
Speaker 1: it looks like I did was the ugly so for
Speaker 1: my good. Um. So, whenever you find somebody on Facebook
Speaker 1: marketplace to do something, you always take a chance. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you get Florida man coming up into your house to
Speaker 1: look at a boat and he just wants to take
Speaker 1: a beer on there and not fix it. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you get really lucky. And we found some guy to
Speaker 1: do our driveway, to do pavers, and he just brought
Speaker 1: a few guys and they did it in a day
Speaker 1: and it was fantastic work. So that was kind of
Speaker 1: our good And I don't know how Travis found them,
Speaker 1: so I can't tell you how to recreate our success.
Speaker 1: But we just had a good feeling like when they
Speaker 1: got there, and so I can say maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit of it is intuition, like if they get there
Speaker 1: and you don't have a good feeling, then you can
Speaker 1: ask to leave. Maybe I'm not sure unless you signed
Speaker 1: a contract. Don't sign a contract if you don't have
Speaker 1: a good feeling. That is the only advice I can give.
Speaker 1: On the bad, we did not renovate our home. It
Speaker 1: was flipped, and so the only bad thing, like sometimes
Speaker 1: I mean, this was an amazing flip and I'm looking,
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at it like you can see me looking.
Speaker 1: But the tile in the bathrooms was painted, and that
Speaker 1: was something they did to save money, and we couldn't tell,
Speaker 1: Like we had never had that before, so we didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect. But several years in it did
Speaker 1: start peeling and it is still I mean, it's still peeling.
Speaker 1: So we're definitely gonna have to redo the tile in
Speaker 1: our bathroom and possibly like the tubs too. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: painted the tub. It was bald and it worked for
Speaker 1: a time. I'm sure it made it look good, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it did. But so it's, um, it's getting pretty bad.
Speaker 1: So we will have to redo the tile in both
Speaker 1: bathrooms and the tub in our gas stroom. But they
Speaker 1: did tile our shower in our room, which is still
Speaker 1: doing good, but just the bottom though, So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that kind of bad. So don't paint tile, That's what
Speaker 1: I have to say about that. M you can, it
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be advised in the shower, like where it's
Speaker 1: going to get wet or where you're going to be
Speaker 1: touching it a lot, And you do need a very
Speaker 1: specific type of paint to paint tile, so it can
Speaker 1: be a quick upgrade. But yeah, like you're saying, it
Speaker 1: only lasts a certain amount of time and it buys
Speaker 1: you sometime and then you're going to have to think
Speaker 1: about in a more longer term solution set up a
Speaker 1: sinking fund for it. So thanks guys for listening. I
Speaker 1: hope you've got something out of this. If you are
Speaker 1: either looking to buy home, maybe this is giving you
Speaker 1: a little bit of courage to overlook some cosmetic things
Speaker 1: that might turn others away and say, oh no, I
Speaker 1: can do this stuff or save you money when you
Speaker 1: find out there's electrical electrical problems, uh, and you decide
Speaker 1: not to d I y that, or just upgrading the
Speaker 1: home that you already live in and making it a
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Speaker 1: Cirian Jill jen. My birthday is two days from the
Speaker 1: airing of this episode. Happy Happy Birthday, Happy Happy Birthday.
Speaker 1: That's my rendition. We always forget to like celebrate timely
Speaker 1: things or talk about timely things because we record these
Speaker 1: episodes so far ahead of time. Um, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, it's also Mother's Day. Mm hmmm. So
Speaker 1: I've always I've I've always waited like this is the
Speaker 1: day I've been waiting for. Is the day because every
Speaker 1: few years my birthday just falls on Mother's Day and
Speaker 1: I had to share it with my mother. But now
Speaker 1: I'm a mother and my birthday falls on Mother's Day,
Speaker 1: which is also now my day, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. So it is actually on Mother's
Speaker 1: Day this year. Travis is actually on call for working.
Speaker 1: You already know that. Yeah, So I don't know, like
Speaker 1: what should I do? Like it is my Di Da
Speaker 1: Da day. Yeah, you've got the convergence of two two things.
Speaker 1: I think it should be more about what are other
Speaker 1: people canna do for you? Do what you want. I
Speaker 1: will say one of the things I'm enjoying lately. You
Speaker 1: can decide if this is for you or not. Would
Speaker 1: be like getting a massage or a facial. It's definitely
Speaker 1: a luxury, but it is definitely so so nice. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you'd enjoy that or not. But I
Speaker 1: like pedicures like the like the deluxe deluxe pedicure with
Speaker 1: the paraffin wax. Oh I've never had that. What do
Speaker 1: they do with that? They put your legs in plastic
Speaker 1: bags that have wax in them, and then they then
Speaker 1: want to sit there with the wax and then do
Speaker 1: they rip it off? They know, I mean they pull
Speaker 1: it off and it's not like you're getting getting wax. Um.
Speaker 1: It's like a warm hug on your legs and that's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so maybe I'll do that. Should I come do
Speaker 1: that with you? You should present it's my birthday too,
Speaker 1: and then like we can get those cocktails that come
Speaker 1: in a can and go to the beach. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you have your perfect day planned. I'm excited picks
Speaker 1: to come. Let's do it.