1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Before 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: we begin today's episode, we want to remind you that 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are those 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: of the hosts and guests and are intended for educational 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: and entertaining purposes. In this safe space, no question is 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: off limits because you never know how someone's storyline can 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: be your lifeline. The Professional Homegirl Podcast is here to 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: celebrate the diverse voices, stories and experiences of women of color, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: providing a platform for authentic and empowering conversations. There will 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: be some key king, some tears, but most importantly a 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: reminder that tough times don't last, but professional Homegirls do 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: enjoy the show. 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Professional Homegirls, how's everyone doing? You know, I'm feeling 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: super cute and really excited about what's coming up for PHG. 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: And also so I don't know about y'all, but I 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: am super obsessed with PHG on the lock. Now, make 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: sure you send me your thoughts about it, which some 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: of you have already did, but if you haven't, emailed 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: me at Hello at the pgpodcast dot com or dm 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: me at the PG podcast on Instagram. But so far, 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: everyone is loving a new series, and yes I do 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: respond back to all of the emails, so please email 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: me or hit me up on Instagram. Now, since thiss 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: the holidays, we are doing a rewind episode. I love 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: that we get to do this because before my partnership, 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Your Girl had over two hundred episodes. So today we 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: are throwing it back to my girl, who shares her 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: story of surviving human trafficking. Now, I know the titles 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: can sound heavy, but I promise y'all this episode is 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: full of shits and giggles, impactful, but it was so 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: much fun having a conversation with her. One of my 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: favorite things about the show is just hearing us talk 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: the way we talk, you know what I mean, Like, 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 2: I just love that you can just hear the different 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: voices when they sharing their story and the banter and 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: the back and forth like that is one of my 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: absolute favors when I'm hearing these stories from different black 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: women on the show and men. But I hope y'all 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: enjoyed this episode because we do dive into some real 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: topics like the adultification of black girls, my guests love 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: for strip clubs, hole's dealing with merry men, and how 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: the Navy saved her life. This is one of those episodes, y'all, 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: So get ready because I am a survivor of human 44 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: trafficking Stars. 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: Now, if I had to guess, just per my experience 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: and what I've gone through, only one survivors survived. But 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: if I had to guess, the life expectancy probably would 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: be I don't know, maybe three years out of the game. 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: Maybe two to three years out of the game. Life expectancy, Yeah, 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: And like I said, also depend on codependency level. Are 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: the drugs involved, is that alcohol involved? And what what 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: will it take for you to stop? Because I don't 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: think people count that in when they're thinking about survivors. 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: You know, you do get addicted to the strip pole, 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: you do get addicted to the concrete. You do get 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: addicted to talking to random people all the time and 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: sleeping with random people. 58 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: So well, let me tell y'all, she don't look like 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: she's been through anything. The skin is on, the eyebrows 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: on point, the hair is on point, the teeth is white. 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: Okay, come on, come on, Well, you know that was 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: one of the advantages of being a stripper. You want 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: to make sure that you know you're on point. And 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: I worked with a lot of white girls. You know, 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: if I could just be candid, I worked a lot 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: of white girl clubs before I was even introduced to 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: black girl club clubs. And you know, white girls when 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: they're stripping, they believe in the glamour like everything is 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: all it's a whole production. It's and it's so beautiful 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: the way everything is done, and it's so nice. You know, 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: working in white girl clubs is they are so helpful 72 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: and supportive and just like, oh my god, you need that. 73 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: You know. It's just like you. I mean, like shout 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: out to my white girlfriends, like y'all freaking rock my 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: girls that are stripping still. You know, hey, I am 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: a survivor, but I love you, sis. And when you're 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: ready to come out, I'm here ready to catch you, sis. 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: But I know that's a very hard thing to do. 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: But it's glamorous. I mean, you know, white girl clubs, 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: it's all about the the boobs and the legs. Black 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: girl clubs is as it's ass ass ass you. It's 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: not enough ass in black girl club when there's already 83 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: ass in a black girl club. But in white girl clubs, 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: it's like you don't need an ass. You don't need 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: none of that. You need posture and you need positioning 86 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: to be able to acrobatically, okay, romantically and mathematically work 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: that motherfucker poe. If you don't know how to work 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: that pole, baby, you're not gonna make no money, okay, 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: because that's where your money is at. And then you 90 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: gotta think about the class of the audience. These are 91 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: prestigious white men, prestigious a lot of times conservative white 92 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: men who do not want the ambiance of the secular 93 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: world in the strip club. Meaning, I know I'm coming 94 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: here to be entertained by someone, but if I had 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: to choose who I'm gonna be entertained by, I want 96 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: them to be what I see in my imagination. And 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 3: so you have to meet that criterion. So you can't 98 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: come in there, you know, all flamboyant. You need to 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: be you know, as feminine as possible, Like you have 100 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: to channel that whole feminine creative exactly. It is a 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: total uniform. So how we all you know, black women, 102 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: I love us, but we are raw raw raw, right. 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: You can't do that in no white girl club. You 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: can't raw raw raw in a white girl club. It's 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: not gonna work. Sis, it's not. You can't have attitude 106 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: in a white girl club. It's not gonna work. 107 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: If a difference between black women and white because I 108 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: used to go to strip clubs a lot, especially when 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: I was in college, and you would see the difference 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 2: between black girls in the white girl shrip clubs compared 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: to the black girls and the black girls strip clubs. 112 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: Like it's a complete difference. 113 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: A man, even how to men treat you, it's completely different. 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: You can be with one John and I'm just gonna 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: call him a john because essentially he's you know, they're 116 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: they're all buying sex, right, and so even even if 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: it's the the even if even if it's the pictorial account, 118 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: even if it's just okay, I want your presence. Okay, 119 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: you're buying sex, you're buying the ambiance, right, and and 120 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: you can be with a john. And if that one 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: girl is it enough? Or if that girl when we're 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: talking about white girl club, if that girl says, hey, 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: you know I want to bring my name was ginger 124 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: when I was in the White girl club. 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: Who's your name in the girl club? Girl? 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Cash, cash, moy cash and seduction. Oh my god, horrible 127 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: horrible girl. So every time when Usher came up with 128 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: that song, said that shut girl, that was my mighty song. 129 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: Oh God, God forgive me and the club. 130 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: I said, okay, now, okay, girl, that was my song. 131 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: But see, you can't like the a Beyonce in the 132 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: Black Girl Club in slow songs is not the same. 133 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: Like you gotta give like anyway, I explained. But when 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: you when you went to John in a white girl club, 135 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: you can be with you know, uh or whatever, and 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: or her name would be Tricksy. That's like a black girl, 137 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: and it'd be like Trishia, right, and Trishia'll be like, 138 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: oh my god, I have this girlfriend I think you 139 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: really like. Her name's jen Jar And she come over 140 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: and he's like, oh yeah, sure golf. You know, by 141 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: the time one drink turns into five drinks and now 142 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: he got two girls and he gonna pay us both 143 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: equally the same. M hm. That's how it is in 144 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: White Girl Club, Black Girl Club. 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: It's a hustle. 146 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a hustle. I'm with my man. That's whoever 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: that man is. That's my man. And baby, when I 148 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: tell you better have a boundaries, right, don't touch him 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: if I walk away and go to the bathroom, and 150 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: I see you sitting with my man. That's an automatic 151 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: fight in a black girl club, right, You about to 152 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: get You're about to get your ass whooped because about 153 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: this very territorial. So don't touch my money, don't touch 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 3: my man, right right, that's sim. 155 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: Why do you think adultification is so common in Black children? 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: Well, you got a couple different reasons. Number one, we 157 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: grew up in a town where uncle Daddy was a relative, 158 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: and I have to go and tell black women, uncle 159 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: daddy ain't no damn relative. Meaning women back in the 160 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: day tried to preserve the memories of our daughters in 161 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: particticularly by monitoring, measuring how many men we brought around them. Now, 162 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: that problem with that was if we brought a man around, 163 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: he might not been necessarily a permanent man, but he 164 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: would have to come around because we had kids, and 165 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: there was no way we could lead them along by 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: themselves up to you know a certain amount of times, 167 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: or you know, we didn't have time to keep managing 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: that babysittering. You know, I'm gonna keep my kids so 169 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: I can go with John or whatever. Da da da 170 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: da da and stuff. So eventually at some point if 171 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: you spend it, you know, three to five times or 172 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: three to five times a week, you know with this man, 173 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: this man's gonna steal children. You see what I'm saying, 174 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: no matter how much you try to keep it a secret, 175 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: and so it ends up what happening is to preserve 176 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: that child's memory and not see you as dating so 177 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: many men, especially if their relationship didn't work out, you 178 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: would just say, oh, he's an uncle. Now problem with 179 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: that was because your child, and you know, you're nine, 180 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: ten years old, you pretty much figure out this person 181 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: ain't your uncle. But because you have not explained to 182 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: me the relationship with this human being I'm thinking now 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: and my interpretation as a child, if that's my uncle. 184 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: But I see you in an intimate partner relationship with 185 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: somebody who you're saying is my uncle. That I think 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: that I'm supposed to date my relatives too, Okay, And 187 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: so here you give a sense about that, you see 188 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So here you get a sense of adultifier. 189 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: Not only that when we grew up, because I'm thirty five, 190 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: when we grew up, and even now I have to 191 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: check a lot of moms with their languages. When we 192 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: talking to our daughters and we're coaching them about dating people, 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: we say they could be thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 194 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: and when the first thing come out of our mouth 195 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: is baby, when you're dating a man, this is what 196 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: a man's supposed to do. This is how a man's 197 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: supposed to treat you, This is how a man is 198 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: supposed to act. Well, what you just told your thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 199 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: seventeen year old child was everything how to date a man. 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: You did not tell her how to date a boy. 201 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: So when she go to school kids her age, right, 202 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: she don't want them because you just trained her to 203 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: date a man. Damn you see what I'm saying. And 204 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: so the language has to be curved and curtailed to 205 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: the audience of today. These kids for the twenty first century, 206 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: and they are past millennial stock, so you you have 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: to make your language more attractive to them. But you 208 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: can't tell a fourteen year old girl what a man 209 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: is supposed to do, because when the boy she's dating 210 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: at school don't measure up to the man that you 211 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: told her was supposed to act like in her life, 212 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: that she's gonna go want a man because you told 213 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: her how to. 214 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Be with one right. 215 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: And so here it is you see stages of adultifying 216 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: before this is the culture of the household, before they 217 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: even step outside the house. And so here it is 218 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: you got the grooming stages of adultification. Meaning adultification means 219 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: that our race, such as black Latina and biopic black 220 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: indigenous people of color, have implicit biases placed on us, 221 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: meaning that we are we can be fourteen or fifteen 222 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: years old, but there's certain things that we could go 223 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: through and even though it might be challenging, we can 224 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: stand to go through it because we're black and we've 225 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: been through more experience as opposed to a white girl 226 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: going through the same thing at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and 227 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: she would be protected. If a fourteen year old girl 228 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: got raped, we'll talk about her being raped and you know, 229 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: and talk about it in the family and things like that. 230 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: But if a fourteen year old white girl got raped, 231 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: well she's still a version and we gotta preserve her. 232 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: We don't do that without black girls. So you see 233 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So you see a lot of the 234 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: adultified we say, you know what, chuck it up. Suck 235 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: it up. You're gonna be all right, Take a lick 236 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: and keep on ticket. We got all of these different 237 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: you know, African American colloquialisms that were born out of 238 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: struggle that we use today that are supposed to make 239 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: us strong, and it's not making us strong as it's 240 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: making a struggle worse. Because if it happened at fourteen 241 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: and I never got dealt with at twenty one, I 242 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: don't I can't stand the thought of me being raped, 243 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: and because somebody took control of my life, I'm gonna 244 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: take control of my own life and I want to 245 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: fuck the whole world, right, I just want to have 246 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: sex with everybody because because somebody, somebody put me in, 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: somebody saw me as a lesser human being, that took 248 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: advantage of me, and now I've lost control. Facts. Facts. 249 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: Do you think people still confuse prostitution with human trafficking? 250 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: And if so, why all the time? So so, for instance, 251 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: I was prostituting, but I was prostituted, big damn difference. 252 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have any control over who I slept with 253 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: and who I didn't sleep with. I didn't make those deals. 254 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: When you're prostituting, you make your own deals. Now those 255 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: people are called renegade. Now you got this new thing 256 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: where they're like, you know what, fuck it, don't even 257 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: call me a prostitute, call me a sex worker. Well, 258 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: I got a big problem with that being on this side, 259 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: being on this side of survivorship, because I'm a conservative. 260 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a conservative, and I'm not gonna necessarily 261 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: say I'm a hard core conservative because I do have 262 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: some Democratic views. You know, I do agree with both 263 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: sides on some things. But I'm way more Republican than 264 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: i am Democratic. Okay. And I had to learn that 265 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: about myself because I really didn't understand I really didn't 266 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: understand them some things that were not distinguishable to me 267 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: until I started writing laws and getting them passed. Okay, okay, hello, 268 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: you take up the class. 269 00:14:59,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Come on that. 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: You see my You see my Abraham. 271 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: With the red, white, and blue Abraham Lincoln share on. 272 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Y'all right, because he was our first Republican president. But 273 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: he also did free the slaves. Whether it was a 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: political move or not, and or whether you felt like 275 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: it was a sympathetic move, it was a move to 276 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: make sure that he knew that white people were gonna 277 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: need to work with black people if they were if 278 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: he was going to grow the nation, and the decision 279 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: was about the nation, and here we are running the 280 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: damn nation and. 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: We need Do you think he was black? 282 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: Girl? I think Abraham Lincoln had a little nigga in here. 283 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: What you're talking about? Okay, okay, ahead, he had too. 284 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: All his partners was Look who his partners was. W 285 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: E the boys come on stuff from on. That was 286 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: his partner. He had his partner in all his speeches, 287 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: he wrote all of them. I think he had a 288 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: little nigga in him too. He had girl come on 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: a lot of them. Did I mean? The man who 290 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: ran our money for the United States America was a 291 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: foreigner and he and he was from an island. When 292 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: you think about Alexander Hamilton, ain't nobody think about him being, 293 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: oh my god, we had a foreigner run our money. Yeah, motherfucker, 294 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: you had a foreigner running your money who was also 295 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: Jew because his mama was Jew. And his mama was 296 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: considered a whole because she had more than one baby 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: daddy m So you know, you have to think about 298 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: stuff like that. So his his daddy didn't raise him. 299 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: His second his mom's second husband ended up raising him, 300 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: and they were from the Islands, and so you didn't 301 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: think they had a little black people. And then I 302 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you, but I know right now, 303 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: you know because I am a Hamilton and I speak 304 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: on it all the time. My husband is like the 305 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: ninth generation grandson to Alexander Hamilton. And there's no way 306 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: that could have happen because my husband all the way black. 307 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: He black masking and white y'all kind of stuff in him, 308 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: you know, and he looked like it too, And I'm 309 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 3: just like, get your weird ass away from me. So 310 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I love my husband, He's amazing. But 311 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: that just go to show our history. History, y'all's history. 312 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: We don't think about stuff like this. 313 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: Go back to your point when you is making when 314 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: you had an issue with prostitution and sex workers. 315 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: I do. I have an issue with people using the 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: words you know, not just yup. I'll say it like that, 317 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: people using the word sex workers, because I'm not demonizing 318 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 3: anybody who do associate with the group, because ladies, I 319 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: get it. But here's the issue to consider. What you 320 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: do is work. That means that you can tax my pussy, 321 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: and you're not gonna do that. You're not taxing my pussy, 322 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: you're not taxing my teddies, you're not taxing my mouth. 323 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: You're not doing none of that. And you gotta understand 324 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: for me to consider us any type of sexual activity, 325 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: for me to for somebody to purchase me, and it 326 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: be a type of work, then that means you're taxing 327 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: a human being, which brings us back to slavery. So, 328 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: because human trafficking is the second slavery, So you're asking 329 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: me to promote something that I'm against, so I can't 330 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: do that for it to be considered work. You are saying, 331 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: let's consider taxing human trafficking, let's consider taxing slavery, let's 332 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: consider taxing people. And I am against that. So I 333 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: don't want. I don't want there to be a corporate 334 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: institute about my money, what my money is going to. 335 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: If I'm giving you money I don't want, and if 336 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm returning money to you because you paying taxes on it, 337 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't want my government paying money back to anybody 338 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: or saying, hey, you get to get an EIC or 339 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: earn income credit for your kid because you were selling 340 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: yourself that's crazy. Do you understand? And now you are 341 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: part of the the workmen's compensation, You're a part of 342 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: you are a part of Just what else do we have? 343 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: You know, like if you hurt yourself, you get short 344 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: term disability, long term disability. You know, those are things 345 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: that you don't get when you work as a strip 346 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: of the strip club. You don't get short term and 347 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: long term disability because you're an independent contractor, you're a 348 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 3: ten ninety nine employee. You don't get that. If you 349 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: want disability, you need to pay for that outside your pocket. 350 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: The problem is strippers are not thinking about insuring themselves. 351 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: So why does the economy, Why does the taxpayers have 352 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: to ensure you? Why do I need to shore you are? 353 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: What you're doing is dangerous, We get it. If you 354 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: want to do that, that's on you. You need to 355 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 3: take complete control in all the liability. But why do I, 356 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: as a taxpayer, need to take liability for you? And 357 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: I want people to think about that. So you want 358 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: me to pay you money that's already progressive and untaxed, 359 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: only to pay taxes on it and it's you trading 360 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: people and you want me to call that work? No, 361 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: you got me fucked up. Working at McDonald's's work. We're 362 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: selling people and pussy ain't work. That's not work. And 363 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: if it takes just as much work as to tell 364 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: you is it take to sell pussy and people, it 365 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: should take that just much. You should have that same 366 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: kind of attitude about actually working in the corporate structure. 367 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get it. This ain't rocket science. 368 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: You either selling people or you not, including yourself. This 369 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: is the reason why the State of Texas it's illegal 370 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: for you to sell yourself and it's illegal for you 371 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: to buy somebody. It's a felony. And we're the only 372 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: state that has this. And I thank you great State 373 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: of Texas for that constitution because I believe that our 374 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: values should be a replication of how we treat our people. 375 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: And you either for slavery or you not, so thank 376 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: you Texas. 377 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: But in Texas it's Houston still known as number one 378 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: city for human traffic. 379 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: We are number one for human trafficking. We got a 380 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: bunch of shit going on we do. First of all, 381 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: you got pay to play here. You want to pay 382 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: to play in the in the political market here, and 383 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: you want your business structure here. Then you pay the play. 384 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: That's all you need to do. That's all you need 385 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 3: to do. You pay extra taxes, you pay extra whatever 386 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: to the city so the city can function and run 387 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: their businesses as appropriately, and it helps with the city 388 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: budget and finances and everything else, you know. And and 389 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: then sometimes in some places certain things have turned the 390 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: blind eye to I mean, it is what it is, right. 391 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: That's how it goes. Now, tell us about your upbringing. 392 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: Ooh, how was I raised? Well, let's talk about it. 393 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: I mean I went into foster care at eleven years 394 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: old because I was a victim child. So I was 395 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: actually raped by a neighbor and he ended up serving 396 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: in jail time and I had a sane nurse and 397 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: things like that to that nature. And then at about fourteen, 398 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: my grandmother was granted SMC, which is so manjed conservativeship 399 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: of me. At fourteen years old. Now I went back home. 400 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: There were no safety measures put in place. So here's 401 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: the thing. Once, what's the cases over with? You know, 402 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: the Department of Family to protect the services. The only 403 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: thing I don't like is maybe, just maybe, and I 404 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: know they don't have enough time, there should be some 405 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: type of follow up. Maybe like three month recourse, six 406 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: month recourse to a year to see, hey, what to 407 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: kind of measure what's the successful level of us return 408 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: to this kid home, back to this parent, or back 409 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: to this relative, And. 410 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: How else would you measure it? 411 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: Right? How else would you measure it it being successful 412 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: that they made a good decision. You just see what 413 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I think that if that was in place, 414 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 3: then by a six month marker once my grandmother had died. 415 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: Because when grandmother died like six months after me being 416 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: returned back home, and she passed away from breast cancer, 417 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, the adults that were, you know that were 418 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: in my life, which would be her children, you know, 419 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: they they did not directly want to, you know, control 420 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: the part of her state that dealt with her grandchildren, right, 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: which which would have made me their niece and nephew 422 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: at that time, but you know, they didn't want that, 423 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: and which is fine. But at that particular point, I believe, 424 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: you know, the state should have been able to step 425 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: in and say, you know, hey, well you guys are 426 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: awarding of the statement. I was abandoned, and so let's 427 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: just get that understand. I was abandoned. I was sleeping outside. 428 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: I was living behind a Walmart. I slept in a 429 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: cardboard box for months. I took a bathroom Walmart bathrooms 430 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: and this is before they were even eco friendly. Okay, 431 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: so I hadne slept on so many bathroom floors. It's unimaginable, 432 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: you know. And just having to live within the constraints 433 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: of a cardboard box, I mean, you can only imagine 434 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: what that felt like for me, to just have to 435 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: be right or die. But I mean I understood some level, 436 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: you know, I understood some level of accountability. And I 437 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: had a lot of levels of adaptability just because of 438 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: the transitioning of life I had experienced before being homeless, 439 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: which was foster care, which was being removed from my 440 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: family's home. 441 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I think, not to cut you off, but how much 442 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: accountability can you take as a child? 443 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: You right? You right? But what I'm saying is as 444 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: far as survival accountability, as far as survival. I knew 445 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: I needed to eat. I knew I needed to have 446 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: somewhere to stay, like I knew I needed to stay 447 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: in school. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, you know, 448 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: even though my situation was bad, I think it really 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 3: could have been worse had I made just had I 450 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: had that fucking attitude, like, you know what, fucking nobody 451 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: cares about me, fucking right, you know what I mean. 452 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: And I didn't take that approach. And you know, because 453 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: I didn't take that approach, that actually pisses some people 454 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: off because they wouldn't have preferred me to make other 455 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: decisions right, to not end up in the situation. But 456 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: I really didn't have any choice. And it's so freaking 457 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: hard for people to believe that I didn't have a choice. 458 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: No, I believe another part, Yeah, I think life is hard. 459 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: This is not easy when you don't have support. 460 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: That's so true. It is so true. And I think too. 461 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: You know, the other part of adultifying is when other 462 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: grown of people start measuring their ability to manage your conflict. 463 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: Meaning I was hearing adult conversations of how they were 464 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: gonna manage my conflict on a long term basis, meaning 465 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 3: I'm living with them. I'm CouchSurfing, but I'm living with 466 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: them for a couple of months. Everything's going good, nothing 467 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 3: bad has happened. I'm not a bad kid, I'm not 468 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: doing anything wrong. But the conversation with adults or and 469 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm hearing it, it is, well, you know, you can't 470 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: stay here too long because you might get pregnant. And 471 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: I don't think that I should have been in a 472 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: place where I had to manage that conflict. If it 473 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: was if I can't stay here too long because I 474 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 3: might get pregnant, that should have been a conversation that 475 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 3: I wasn't privy to. If you didn't want me in 476 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: your household longer and longer than necessary, then then you know, 477 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: maybe how about talk to a school counselor and say, hey, 478 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: I got the kid living with me. What do you 479 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: think you know I should do. She's not a bad kid, 480 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: nothing's going on wrong. But should I contact the proper authorities? 481 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: Her parent has been deceased, but she's going to school 482 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: from my house. What can the school do? And that's 483 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: not what happened. It was like to move me out 484 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: of the structure. It was they couldn't find anything wrong. 485 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: It was okay, you can't stay here too long because 486 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: you might get pregnant, and I don't want that happening. 487 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: But I did when they told you might get pregnant. 488 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Who was going to impregnant you? The men in the house, well, 489 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: not only just the men in the house. 490 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the people I was living with, 491 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 3: couch surfing with, they was young boys. So all my 492 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: friends was like, you know, these were young boys that 493 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: I had grew up with, and they were just like, 494 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna look out for you. You know 495 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It was easy for them to beg 496 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: they mama who was working all the time for me 497 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: to stay because I'm like a straight a student. For instance, 498 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: if it was a young boy who needed help with 499 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: his homework because I was really good at math and 500 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: I was helping with the homework all the time, I 501 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: could end up, you know, spending the night that particular 502 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: night because I stayed over helping with homework, right, And 503 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: if I was helping them get their grades better, getting 504 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: their grades together and stuff like that, then it would 505 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: end up me staying a little bit longer, and it 506 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: took a stress off the parent me being around. But 507 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: the second part of the conflict would be, oh well, 508 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: y'all might end up in a dating relationship with each 509 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: other and you might get pregnant. So every time there 510 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: was a decent situation for me to build a strong 511 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: partnership with with kids, who did have parents. It always 512 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: turned into it being you know, let me cut this 513 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: short because there's another conflict that can arise out of this, 514 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: which at that time, I wasn't even having sex. I 515 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: have it right, but I wasn't having sex right, So 516 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: that's what ended up happenings. 517 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: Yo, niggas is trash man, I'm telling you people are 518 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: just trash. But I'm telling you too, girl a, yeah, 519 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: so sad. But because of you always hearing it, you 520 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: thought that pregnancy was the key to not being homeless. 521 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: Exactly right, exactly I thought pregnancy was going to fix 522 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: me not having to pick my bags up and it 523 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: was only a bag. Like when you are desperate and 524 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: you do not want to sleep outside and you do 525 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: not want to eat chicken out the trash can for 526 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: that night, you are like, look, what is gonna solve 527 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: this problem? Don't nobody want me? Okay, maybe I need 528 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: to get pregnant because if I'm pregnant, people will sympathize 529 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: with me more and it won't be so quick to 530 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: put me out their house. 531 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Right. 532 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: Wow, that's what doultifying. Right. 533 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: So you had your baby and you were taking your 534 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: baby to school in your purse and I thought this 535 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: was fucking crazy. How the school counselor was telling you 536 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: to drop out get to ged but you wasn't even 537 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: eighteen yet, and. 538 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: That I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't even old enough 539 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: to unregister myself out of school. So less than ten 540 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: days after I had my kid, I was sued by 541 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: the State of Texas. I think I had like my kid, 542 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: I all want to say, ten days in less than 543 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: thirty days. So I had justin at ten ten o three, 544 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: I turned sixteen October thirtieth, and then eleven o five 545 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: is when I was sued by the State of Texas. 546 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: So I wasn't even a mom for thirty days. And 547 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: here it is, I'm sued by the State of Texas. 548 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: So how did you get out of that situation transition 549 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: into the strip club? 550 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. I didn't get out of that situation. 551 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: That's how I ended up at the strip club. So 552 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: once once the lawsuit happened, I mean I didn't have 553 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: an attorney. I was a dust father, was treated like 554 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: an adult. I wasn't taken into foster care again as 555 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: a miner with a child, I was treated like a 556 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 3: mother and I was victimizing my child. My child was 557 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: listed as a victim the entire time. Do you see 558 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying? 559 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Right? 560 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: And so I was listened as the mother, but my 561 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: child was listed as a victim. Yo. 562 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: It's crazy how they treat black women, men, or just 563 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: black girl if you was a different race, right right. 564 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: I think what is insiduous was at that particular time, 565 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: which I didn't know anything about having conservative views, was 566 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: that being judged against conservative views when I didn't grow 567 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: up in a conservative household. And that's the reason why 568 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: we need judges that look like us, because a lot 569 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: of us do not grow up with conservative views. Knew. 570 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: I knew nothing about a fucking conservative view, absolutely nothing. 571 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: I knew nothing about a man raising his daughter, whether 572 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: it was black or white. I knew absolutely nothing about that. 573 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: I knew that white girls grew up with in the 574 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 3: two parent household, right, But I did not know what 575 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: the extent of her being raised, her being reared by 576 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 3: her parents. I just knew that she had both parents. 577 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: Whereas I'm a black girl, I know that I'm either 578 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: gonna have one other other or neither, and in my case, 579 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: I had none of I had no grandmother, no mother, 580 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: no father. I was an orphan, and here it is. 581 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: I'm an orphan and standing in court with and like 582 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: I said, it's not a white black issue because you 583 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: black people are conservative and I absolutely love and I'm 584 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: conservative today. But I'm standing in court as an orphan, 585 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: and I'm being measured by the justice system by somebody's 586 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 3: conservative views of how they think I should have been 587 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: raised as a young girl. And that's not the way 588 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: I grew up. So I feel like I was punished 589 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: by somebody's opinion about how I should have been raised 590 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: and what my life should have been like before I 591 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: had even got a chance to experience life. Right, So 592 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: and that, and I know it's true because that helped 593 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: me to understand why the judge made his decisions about 594 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: the future of my life. Because there was no expectancy. 595 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: There was not an expectancy for me to get my 596 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: children back. My requirement was to get a ged, find 597 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: a job, and get a bank account and put money 598 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: in it, because I needed to prove that I could 599 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: be fiduciarily responsible for me my kids. 600 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Right and to him, to him, he was already a statistic. 601 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: Right, right, I was already a statistic right. There was 602 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: no coming back from that. I mean, that is why 603 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: I didn't have it right. It explains why I didn't 604 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: have an attorney. It explains why d APS then asked 605 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: for me to have an attorney. You know I didn't 606 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: have an ad litem. I know that worked by case right, 607 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: nobody you know what I mean? Like there were a 608 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: lot of things done wrong in my situation. I don't. 609 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that the expectation was was for me 610 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: to be successful in that situation. I think that I 611 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: just made a bad situation successful. Mmm. 612 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: Facts, Now, how were you introduced to the strip club? 613 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: So, my home girl, why you start smelling because I'm 614 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: addicted to it. I'm addicted to the strip club. I'm 615 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 3: gonna deal. No, I have to stay away from him. 616 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: They're eerie to me now. But I let me tell 617 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: you something. And I had the best time in the 618 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: strip club. I will not lie about that. Sining is 619 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: always so much fun. I loved my singing. I loved 620 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: my saying. And I'm not saying it to brag on that. 621 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, I don't I don't want people 622 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: to just feel like, you know, I'm embarrassed about what 623 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: it was that I went through. I didn't I didn't 624 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: ask for the strip club. That was what was impressed 625 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: upon me, because it was it was a way out. 626 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: And when you are not an independent person, you automatically 627 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: co dependent. You rely on other people's ideas to facilitate 628 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: the future of your life, and that's slavery. And I 629 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: thought my homegirl would have been the best person to 630 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: be able to advise me because she had already had 631 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: two children, and she was already step she was already stable. 632 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: She was that statistical anomaly that was that was presentable 633 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: to a court his My homegirl got to kids, she's 634 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: in church, she's doing well, and that's what it appeared 635 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: to be. And then I started thinking, oh, I only 636 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: have to do this based on appearance. Let me just 637 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: make this stuff look good on paper, and it ain't 638 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: really got to be like this, you know, behind closed doors, 639 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, you start coming up with all of these 640 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: different analogies. And y'all got to remember, I was a kid, right, 641 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: I was a kid trying to protect my kid, and 642 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: I never knew what it was like for myself to 643 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: be protecting. My mama never protected me, right, Right, So 644 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it Out'm trying to figure life 645 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: out for me and this kid who doesn't deserve this 646 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: bullshit and who doesn't deserve to be separated from his mom. 647 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: That's all I knew. All I knew was I ain't gonna. 648 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 2: Be like my mama, right right. 649 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: My mama dropped out of school in the eighth grade. 650 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 3: I dropped out of school in the tenth grade. That's 651 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: a lot of things. I thought I wasn't gonna be 652 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: like my mama, and that I ended up being just 653 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: like my mother in and I, oh, go ahead, no, no, 654 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm listening. 655 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: No, no, I was going to say. I also read 656 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: that your mother passed away and she too was a 657 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: survivor of human trafficking. 658 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: Right. 659 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: I wish I could say that she survived. She was 660 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: actually murdered by the guy who was pimping her out 661 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: and stuff for drugs because my mother was addicted to 662 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: crack cocaine mm hm. And my mother was a type 663 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: of mother. She would always tell you the truth. She 664 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 3: did a sugarcoat thing. She look you into your face 665 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: and she'll tell you know what, I love crack one 666 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: and I love you, and I don't think it's a 667 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: good decision for you to, you know, not necessarily following 668 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 3: the footsteps, but but to try to redeem me or 669 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: you know, try to take me away from it, because 670 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to choose crack. Right, this is where I'm at. 671 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: And I knew that about my mother. I said that 672 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: about my mother, right, and it's okay, And that's one 673 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: of the things, ok ahead, No, I was just saying that, 674 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: that's one of the things that helped me to survive 675 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 3: human trafficking. I mean, because at the end of the day, 676 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: you're born looking like your mother and your father, but 677 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: you died looking like your decisions. And my preaching says, 678 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: come on now, damn, that's a fact. And I had 679 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: to think about, you know, when I started having children, 680 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: especially when I started having children to buy my Johns 681 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: by the men I was trying to I had to 682 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: think about, you know, and I was having boys too. 683 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I had to think about how I 684 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: want to die, how do I want to leave my children? 685 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 3: What memory do I want my children to leave with me? 686 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: And you know about their mother and stuff. Because when 687 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: my mother passed, you know, I got a phone call 688 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 3: from Harrison County asking me to well, Harrison County and HPD. 689 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: I worked at the county at that particular time, HBD 690 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: asking me to identify, you know, my mother, that my 691 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: mother was, who my mother was, and all it was 692 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: was bones. My mother had already been buried in a 693 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: Poppers cemetery, meaning meaning somebody who who didn't have any 694 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: money and who didn't have any family. And on my 695 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: mother's tombstone it says unknown from her birthday to her 696 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: death day. 697 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 698 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: And that's how my mother is remembered. It's like she 699 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: was never even here. Unknown And so that's how I 700 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: came up with that theory. And I was like, you 701 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: know what, Yep, No, when I die, it's gonna be 702 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: a great death. It's gonna be a great I'm gonna 703 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: go out strong, and my children are gonna know me. 704 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: My children are gonna remember me, and my children be 705 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 3: able to have a headstone that says that the mother 706 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: was here and who that mother was and who is 707 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: survived by her, and they will be proud of who 708 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 3: their mother is. That was important to. 709 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: Me, right facts. I felt like also what your Homegirl 710 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: did was she recruited you because I remember been watching 711 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: one of your interviews and you said that human trafficking 712 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: starts with recruitment, explotations and frauds. 713 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: Right, oh, look at you. 714 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: I did my homeworksus now come on now, yes. 715 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so my my head. Listen, my she's my 716 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: sister and I love her. Yeah, she's my sister and 717 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: I love her. You know, I don't think that she 718 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: knew she was being pimped out. Mmm okay. I think 719 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: that the guy who was older than the both of 720 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: us just saw an advantage. He took He took an advantage, 721 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: He saw an opportunity, and he took advantage of the situation. 722 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: You know. It was you know, I had work at 723 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 3: the strip club and all I'm doing is waitressing. I 724 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 3: work at this one. Take my ID, go work in 725 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: another one because back then you could do that. There 726 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: was no checks and balances. Today though, because of what 727 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: happened to me. That's eva. See. Now you got to 728 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: put your right driver's license, social and your birth certificate 729 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 3: in the system. So the strip club has to hire 730 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 3: the same way McDonald's and everybody else hires. You gotta 731 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: go verify so that the ship that happened to me, 732 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: it can't happen nowhere else. So you can't go work 733 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: at one strip club and then be working at another 734 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 3: strip club, and then they don't know that you're working 735 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 3: at both of them. You see what I'm saying, Because 736 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 3: back then you just you just filled out a piece 737 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: of paper and as long as you was cool with somebody, 738 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: you could get in the door. 739 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: Right. 740 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: That was it. When I worked at Gg's cabaret, I 741 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 3: worked at at end of Nicole Smith's strip club where 742 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 3: she got found at old rich Man. Man, you come on, okay, 743 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: but you know and rich white men are. Let me 744 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: tell you something about rich white men. I don't have 745 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: been around enough of them to know that they are 746 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: some of the most informative people you will ever meet 747 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: in your life. They are so helpful, they are happy 748 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: to teach you what you need to know. Oh ecstatic, 749 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 3: Oh man, they want you to know. They want you 750 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: to have a better life. That's what's so fucking crazy 751 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: about all of this because people, I know, when people 752 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 3: are listening to me talk, they listen at my story. 753 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 3: But not one time have I ever said anything bad 754 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 3: about my Johns, except for the ones that I got 755 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 3: pregnant by. Because that's bullshit. It's bullshit to expect and 756 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 3: I understand the abortion laws today because he listen. I 757 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: am a pro life and that's why the fuck I 758 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,479 Speaker 3: have eight children. Okay, I don't believe in killing kids. 759 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: Don't kill them. I don't care how they got here. 760 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: Don't kill kids. That's where I'm at. Talk about me. 761 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck, But that's where I'm at. 762 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 3: I had all my kids. What I don't what I 763 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: am against is forcing girls to co parent with abusers. 764 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 3: There's gonna have to be some type of logical sentiment, 765 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 3: some type of legislative formation to to I mean, to coexist, 766 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 3: for somebody to be able to have to coexist, that's 767 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: gonna have to be a formality in the family code, 768 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: whether you in Texas, California, Florida. I mean, like, I 769 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 3: don't give a fuck where you at. Where the girl 770 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: who is having a baby by the abuser is not 771 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: forced to co parent with them. There has to be 772 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: some type of limited, limited purview on parentage, how much 773 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 3: that parent can, how much interaction, and things like that. 774 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 3: Because you know, I didn't kill myself. That was fortunately 775 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 3: for me. But I know some survivals who would kill 776 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 3: themselves just so that they don't have to look. 777 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 2: At their abuser anymore, right, right, or kill their child 778 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: or kill their child. 779 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. And I 780 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: think that's one thing that that the law has not considered. 781 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: And I'm really really asking them, especially in this legislative session, 782 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: because we are intel I'm in Texas, guys, that's listening. 783 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: We're in our eighty eight legislature, and that's something that 784 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 3: that's you know, gonna be put on the table because 785 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: we don't abord, which is fine, but we're gonna have 786 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 3: to have some type of some type of just curve, 787 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: you know, for how these girls have their parents. Your 788 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 3: fifteen year old daughter gets pregnant by somebody who raped 789 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: her or by somebody who pimped her out, you ain't 790 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: gonna want to see that nigga, right. You ain't gonna 791 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 3: want that nigga to have your address. You ain't gonna 792 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: want him to come pick the your grand baby up. 793 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 3: You're not gonna want none of that, right, And so 794 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 3: we we we have to consider the new family dynamics 795 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: and how to deal with toxic family bonds. I mean, 796 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 3: because that's the. 797 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: Truth right now. Once you start trusting the situation with 798 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 2: you being in the strip club, and your friend put 799 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: you on her boyfriend then tells you that you can't 800 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: have your baby back until you start paying him two 801 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: hundred dollars a day. 802 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: Right, because I wasn't giving him enough money, mainly because 803 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: I was trying to meet the judge's requirements of keeping 804 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 3: the money in the bank account, right, okay, and so 805 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 3: to my little nickel and now money, I was giving 806 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: him what was left over, and he wasn't having that shit, right. 807 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 3: So he was like, you need to up the anti 808 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: meaning you don't even know how profitable you are, but 809 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 3: I do. I was young, you know, I had my 810 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: titties piers, my tender de periers. I was fourteen years old, 811 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: had already had my first tattoo, you know, I just like, 812 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: I wasn't a bad kid. I had just gotten to 813 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: some shit, right, And he was looking at me like, 814 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, you skinny, you you know you got these legs. 815 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: You can do it, you know, go forward and put 816 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 3: yourself out there. And if put yourself out there not enough, 817 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 3: then maybe I need to take something from you to 818 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: make you put you know, put your hustle game on, 819 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: put you on your a game all the time. And 820 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 3: you know what, because that nigga took my kids away 821 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 3: from me and put me on my A game all 822 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: day long. I'm all day I'm on my A game 823 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 3: about my motherfucking children and they and they never stopped 824 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: because since then, it has always been somebody trying to 825 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 3: take my children or use my children against me for 826 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: me to not have them, you know what I mean. 827 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize that that was my superpower. And 828 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 3: today I'm one of the first cases in the state 829 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 3: of Texas that was sued for child support by the 830 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 3: men that were trafficking me because the state placed me 831 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 3: in the house with the man that was pimping me out, 832 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: me and my children. 833 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: Mmm, how was that even possible? 834 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, according to court documents, they knew I was living 835 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 3: with him. They labeled him in my documents as my paramore, 836 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: in which a paramore is p A R A M 837 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: O U. Are you guys? It is a legal term 838 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: you use for like a side piece during a divorce 839 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: or in marriage. Right, you would have a pair more. 840 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: My husband had a pair of more. That would be 841 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: the name of a side piece, but it was it's 842 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 3: an illicit sexual relationship, so that was listed in there. 843 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: I was sixteen years old. You cannot consent to sex 844 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 3: at sixteen years old? And was this the one that 845 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 3: was twenty eight Just the one that was twenty eight 846 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: years old? Wow, you're doing my business. It was twenty 847 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: eight years old, that's right, right. So I was born 848 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 3: in eighty seven. So by the time and two thousand 849 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 3: and so, he had gone to jail for the first 850 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 3: time in nineteen ninety three because before d DFPS which 851 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 3: Department of Family Protect the Services, Before they even place 852 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 3: you with someone, they always do a background check. Right, 853 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 3: everybody knows they do a background check. His background check 854 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 3: is in my court documents. So he had already gone 855 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: to jail as a first time offender in nineteen ninety three. Well, 856 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 3: I'm born in eighty seven, so in nineteen ninety three, 857 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: I was six years old. 858 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 2: Right, do the math, Yo, these niggas Ooo, child, you child, 859 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna have listeners looking at niggas real sideways. 860 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be prejudging people. Just know that this shit happens, 861 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, like life is real, and you know these 862 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 3: these what happened in the early two thousands where we 863 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 3: didn't have any rules, regulations and laws that govern how 864 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 3: we treat people and the value that we have on people. 865 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 3: Did the government know about human trafficking out absolutely, but 866 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 3: the term was used for international issue. It was never 867 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: a time that was used for the America. That's why 868 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 3: when taking came out, the first place they placed, uh 869 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 3: the identifying mark of human trafficking wasn't. 870 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: In Paris, right because they didn't happen in our backyard. 871 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 3: Right you know. And but it made people that that 872 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 3: was the inclusion. It made people think that it only 873 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 3: happens in other countries, that it only happened internationally, or 874 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: how they say the military Ocona is overseas, right right? 875 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: So m yeah, Now a pimp from the club hear 876 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 3: what was going on and he came to protect you 877 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 3: from the situation with the nigga at the house. 878 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 2: But he was no better. 879 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 3: That was that that ended up being a nigga at 880 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: the house. Oh right? So the pimp so the one 881 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 3: the one I ended up being with, That's the one 882 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: who had to fight with the dude who I was 883 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 3: living with, my homegirl's boyfriend, right right right, He had 884 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 3: a fight with her with him, right right? 885 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 2: Okay, So this was the guy who took you to 886 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: the hotel and told you to make some money, and 887 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: he pulled a gun out on you. 888 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 3: This is at the point I'm being sex traffic. The 889 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 3: first part of my store, I was just label traffic. 890 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have to sleep with my homegirl's boyfriend, but 891 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 3: I was. I was. I was doing other stuff in 892 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 3: the club to get the money. I was lying about 893 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 3: the drinks, how much the drinks cost. I was getting 894 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 3: extra money from that. 895 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be smart, child, girl. 896 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 3: I'm telling you because I knew nothing about the hospitality 897 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 3: industry and how it worked. I knew absolutely nothing about 898 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: serving people, about service and about the attitude of service. 899 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 3: I knew absolutely nothing about it. I knew how to hustle. 900 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: I didn't care who was fucking who in the club, 901 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 3: but I always knew who was sucking who. Everybody trusted 902 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 3: me with that secret. So the champagne room, the boom 903 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 3: boom room, I'm your girl. I'm your girl that's gonna 904 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 3: look out for you. So if you need to fuck 905 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 3: somebody in the champagne room because you to hit a lick, 906 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: so you need to suck him up, or you need 907 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 3: to do whatever, well, then when he paid you your five, 908 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 3: then you need to pay me my money too. So 909 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 3: he give you five, you need to give me one hundred. 910 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 3: So you're gonna walk away with four because I just 911 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 3: made sure that you didn't get called by the manager 912 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 3: and you didn't get caught by swat, right because we 913 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 3: had bus and so I made sure you was one 914 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: of the girls who you always had an alibi about 915 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 3: which way you was and what you was doing, right right, 916 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 3: That's how I made my money. So if a girl 917 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 3: make five, I'm good. Make sure she had to make five, 918 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 3: because you got to give me a hundred, right, I 919 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 3: gotta make because I just looked out exactly exactly. Now 920 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: you do you do? You do about three four of 921 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 3: them a night? You come out of them, make it 922 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 3: for five hundred dollars, right right, facts, fasks. That's how 923 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 3: I cut throat it is. That's that's the That's the club, 924 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: though I don't I don't know what the club is 925 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 3: like now, but that that was the club, you know, 926 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: for me back then, and a lot of the girls, 927 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 3: because I was in a white girl club, they knew 928 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 3: my story, like they knew what was going on and 929 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 3: things like that. They would always just you know, take 930 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: care of me, you know, chuck me. Some of them 931 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 3: would just chuck me. Twenty five, the youngest one. I 932 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 3: was the youngest one. I was the youngest one in 933 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 3: the trip club. I was the baby. I was everybody's baby. 934 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 2: Wow, so they gonna look out for you. 935 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked out. They looked out. 936 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: You were trafficking for five years and at the age 937 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: of nineteen. You mentioned earlier that you slept with fifteen 938 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 2: hundred men. Because of this, just about did you ever 939 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: look at men differently? 940 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 3: No, I looked at it. I look at marriage differently, though, 941 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 3: how so, because you know, being married requires you to 942 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 3: blind blindly trust, It requires you to give to something 943 00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 3: that you may not understand, because you gotta remember, I 944 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 3: was sleeping with other people's husbands. What ain't shit stopping 945 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 3: nobody from sleeping with mine? Right, Ain't shit stopping me 946 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 3: from feeling what I made those other women feel sleeping 947 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 3: with their husbands. M hm, Okay, So don't ever think 948 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 3: I walk around here and and I'm just all, uh, 949 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: I got my shit together kind of thing. No, I 950 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: hurt for them, I'm mourn for them. I'm I ain't 951 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 3: never apologize to God so much in my life, but 952 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 3: I do it all the time, and I'm constantly encouraging 953 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 3: other women, Hey, get the bag, but don't sleep with 954 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 3: nobody's husban to get it, because if you did that, 955 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 3: you ain't gonna keep that bag. That's not your bag, 956 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 3: that's his wife's bag, and you gonna pay because you stealing. 957 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 3: That's why the Bible say this is he said my house. 958 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 3: He said, my house is gonna be a house a prayer, 959 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 3: not a den of robbers and thieves. I had to 960 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 3: think about what the fuck that meant? What you mean mean, 961 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 3: Lord about your house is the house of prayer? Meaning 962 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 3: if I need something, then I go to the Father. 963 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: That's why Jesus is about sugar Daddy. I'm gonna go 964 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 3: to the Father and tell Daddy God, this is what 965 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 3: I need X Y and z da da da dah. 966 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna perjure myself against his word, meaning 967 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 3: giving the devil the opportunity to you to use my 968 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 3: life and the covenant God made with me against the kingdom. 969 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 3: That's not authority. That's witchcraft. And I had to understand, Okay, 970 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 3: prostitution is witchcraft. This is like I was going down 971 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 3: a deep hole. I was like, I did not God 972 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 3: who teaching this on this level, right, I had to, 973 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, reconvene because Revelations twelven eleven tells you we 974 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 3: overcome the enemy three different ways, not one way. It 975 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 3: says a boy, the power of our testimony, not loving 976 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 3: life to death and by the blood of the Lamb. 977 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 3: And so I had to really really think about, Okay, God, 978 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna come out here and tell my story 979 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 3: and we're really going to do this, then people need 980 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 3: to be delivered. You. You can't just know my business. 981 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 3: To be knowing my business, you need to know how 982 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 3: I stay saved, how I stay my black ass after 983 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 3: strip club, how I stay not sleeping with somebody else's husband, 984 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 3: how I stay not selling my body for say, how 985 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 3: I stay doing exactly what I say to other women 986 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 3: to not do. And that's through the world of God. 987 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm not practicing witchcrap. You're not gonna give me to 988 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 3: do it with my mouth, You're not gonna give me 989 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 3: to do it with my body. But I will remain 990 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 3: in a covenant contract agreement with the father, because that's 991 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 3: what marriage is. It's about the covenant. 992 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 2: Right right, it is what it is, yo, That's what 993 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: I said. I was like, I do a lot of things. 994 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 2: I ain't messing with nobody. 995 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: Household yeah, oh yeah, don't do that, and don't and 996 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 3: don't overstep your boundaries with wives because why is it powerful? 997 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 3: Why Bible says wife has the authority to get rid 998 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 3: of unclean spirits. That's even if it's through the husband, 999 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 3: and even if it's through you. I don't want nobody 1000 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 3: having that kind of power over me. That's a lot 1001 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 3: of power up. 1002 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 1003 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 3: Girl, I'm not people. I don't think why. I was 1004 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 3: understand that because by the time they find like they 1005 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 3: husband is in the strip club and he fell in 1006 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: love with a stripper. You know, A te Paint came 1007 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 3: out with that dead Man song I the Love with 1008 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 3: a chip Y. You love that song till you find 1009 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 3: your husband with some hope and you like, motherfucker. Then 1010 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 3: you gonna think about how much you love this ship 1011 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 3: we singing. And then you gotta understand too, most of 1012 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 3: the hoes that's singing a lot of these songs, they 1013 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: all married and ship you gotta ask yourself why. Because 1014 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 3: coven it brings favor from God. You see what I'm saying. 1015 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 3: Party B was a hope but that motherfucker married and 1016 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 3: before she had her baby, she got married too, So right, 1017 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 3: but she but but but you know what I'm saying, 1018 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: Valentine's coming up and ship like that. You got a 1019 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 3: lot of motherfuckers trying to puss the pop up of chocolate. This. 1020 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 3: We do not need you pop locking and dropping it 1021 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 3: for no chocolate. 1022 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: I be telling these girls, especially my little young my 1023 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 2: little young sisters, I'd be like, listen, I say, y'all 1024 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: better stop looking at these girls and trying to be 1025 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: like them, because you don't know what they're doing, not 1026 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: at all, how they get into it and what they're 1027 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 2: giving up. 1028 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: I'm just getting to the money, right. Everybody's mad mad, Yeah. 1029 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 2: Like you can't be you can't be looking at what 1030 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: everybody that's doing because they ain't your walk. 1031 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that ain't your no for sure, And then you 1032 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 3: know you gotta understand human trafficking covenants things like that. 1033 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 3: It's not the type of demon, is not the type 1034 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 3: of demon you want to play with me. It's governed 1035 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 3: by the Viiseling spirit. And I mean, and we can 1036 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 3: go on and on and on. We'll have to bring 1037 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 3: me in on another episode so people can get down 1038 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: to the real nitty gritty of this situation. But I 1039 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 3: was explain it to you like this, the reason why, 1040 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 3: the reason why strip clubs is such an illegal source 1041 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 3: and the reason why a lot of trafficing happens out 1042 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 3: of it. So the strip club is governed by two gods, 1043 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 3: which is the ASTROISTHM the ball, right, and a Bible 1044 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 3: talks about this all the time. The astro was a 1045 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,479 Speaker 3: female goddess, right, she was always naked, but the bell 1046 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 3: was resembleous of a fallus, right, a penis or a pole. 1047 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 3: So when you get girls that get naked and want 1048 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 3: to strip and dance on the stage right on this pole, 1049 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 3: then she is the replica of the ASTROISTH, while the 1050 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 3: pole is the replica of the ball. So when you 1051 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 3: get men coming to pay money right to these girls 1052 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 3: because they feel like they've done a good enough job, 1053 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 3: that's what they like to see. They're actually paying homage 1054 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 3: to these gods. But they paying it with money that 1055 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: says in God we trust will which god, motherfucker right, 1056 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 3: let's be clear. And so you got a lot of 1057 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: men that's in the streep club that's practicing witch classing, 1058 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 3: and they come in these clubs with you know what, 1059 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 3: they would would covenant because they married. But then they 1060 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 3: leave with all these unclean spirits and they bring them 1061 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: to their wife and they wonder why they're having problems 1062 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 3: at home. Right, Okay. The Bible says that the power 1063 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 3: of life and death is in the tongue. When you 1064 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 3: think tongue, you think would come out your mouth, but 1065 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 3: people forget. They wear fucking shoes, and then your shoe. 1066 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 3: That's a little peace in the fucking shoe. That's called 1067 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 3: a tongue. So it ain't just about what the fuck 1068 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 3: you say, it's about where the fuck you go to. 1069 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 2: Right, and you bring that ship right back home. 1070 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 3: You bring that ship right back home, right. And that's 1071 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 3: a hard that's a hard thing. It takes. It takes 1072 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 3: a right thing. 1073 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 2: I took the thirtieth okay, because I feel like me 1074 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: and you guys, Kendrick spirits, and my birthday just passed. 1075 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 2: It was February eighth. 1076 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,439 Speaker 3: Oh what so which you and Aquarius? Yeah? Oh water? Yeah, 1077 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 3: there you go. 1078 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 2: You're not. 1079 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 3: No, I'm scorpy, I'm water. I'm deep water. 1080 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: Though, that's why that's like I'm like, yo, I feel 1081 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 2: like I'm hearing myself. 1082 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, deep water girl, deep water do it girl. Yeah, 1083 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 3: I tell me real quick, because I understand my element 1084 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: and I don't do the horse. I don't do the horoscopes. God, 1085 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: I don't do that. But you gotta understand your element 1086 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: in your your foundation of how you think and how 1087 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 3: you reason with things, in respect to your decision makings 1088 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and just how you feel about things. 1089 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 3: With water, I can either heal you or kill you. 1090 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 3: If you get into it with me and you piss 1091 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 3: me off, it's gonna be a fucking tsunami. You gotta 1092 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 3: think about how you want to. You get what I'm saying, like, right, 1093 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 3: don't do right. Don't push me because I'm already close 1094 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 3: to the ship. I ain't gonna killer, but don't push me. Okay, 1095 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 3: But it's it's some ship. You know. Water can be 1096 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 3: very dangerous. And that's how, like I said, that's how 1097 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 3: I know so much about human trafficking and just you know, 1098 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 3: through my expertise, and my expertise just don't come from 1099 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 3: my human experience. I you know, my expertise comes from 1100 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 3: my divine resource of having a great relationship with God 1101 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 3: and unders being privy to information that most people wouldn't 1102 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 3: even uh with, wouldn't even seed. They wouldn't see it 1103 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 3: unless somebody who actually been through that type of hell 1104 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: could point it out to you. Like for instance, in 1105 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 3: John eight forty four, Jesus was talking to a group 1106 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 3: of Jews, and this group of Jews he said, listen, 1107 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 3: your daddy, not my daddy, and he said, your father 1108 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 3: is Satan. Then at the end of the scripture he said, 1109 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 3: and Satan is the father of lives. Now, when I 1110 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 3: saw that, you will read that like that right, you 1111 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 3: wouldn't think nothing of it. But as it refers to 1112 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 3: human trafficking, it explains a lot of the reason why 1113 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 3: girls call they pimps or their buyers daddies. Facts, see 1114 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because we're not dealing with our father, 1115 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 3: We're dealing with the father of lies. And I love 1116 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: that scripture because Jesus made sure that we understood that 1117 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 3: Satan did not lose his position as a father just 1118 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 3: because he was an enemy. And we have to think 1119 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: about that. Just because they got the title, that doesn't 1120 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 3: mean that that's who they are, right, But the Bible 1121 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 3: says that God will put enity between the woman and 1122 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 3: the snake right, and so we have to really, you know, 1123 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 3: we have this determinment, we have these tools, we have 1124 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 3: all of this stuff that we need to make these 1125 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 3: good judgments, but we still don't. We invite some stuff 1126 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 3: in our life. Some of us, some of us are 1127 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: we are just at the disadvantage of the things that 1128 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: we pray about, the things we pray for. We have 1129 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 3: the mercy of it because we don't really know. We 1130 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 3: ask it when we say, okay, God, use me right, 1131 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 3: are you ready to do this unto death? Because I 1132 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 3: do this unto death meaning this is what I'm gonna 1133 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: do for the rest of my life. This is what 1134 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do because it's not just a power of 1135 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 3: my testimony. It's not loving my life unto death, meaning 1136 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 3: people's lives are as state when we don't do the 1137 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 3: podcast like this. That's why I love you. You are 1138 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 3: a content creator. You are black, You a gorgeous you, 1139 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 3: a beautiful and black sister. You fucking rock. But when 1140 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 3: people like you can bring this kind of content into 1141 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 3: context and people get to have the advantage of having 1142 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 3: Jesus as well as understanding somebody else's experience, because a 1143 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: lot of people won't be able to hear me. You know, 1144 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 3: the church wouldn't be able to hear me this way 1145 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 3: because they'd be like, oh, well, you know, becaumes too 1146 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 3: much or some shit like that. But I still might 1147 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 3: have something in my mouth. There's a wisdom in what 1148 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 3: it is that I'm saying that can help keep your 1149 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 3: children together, that can help keep your marriage together, keep 1150 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 3: you from walking out, showing you how to pray. This 1151 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 3: is why my new strong advantage just teaching women how 1152 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 3: to pray for their husbands when they getting caught up 1153 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 3: in this type of stuff, when they getting caught up 1154 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: in this demonic hairiness, a culture, uh, a spirit of 1155 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 3: sexual exploitation. Right, because you can't think you exempt just 1156 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 3: because you married. Fuck, you ain't an exempt. You ain't. 1157 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 3: You ain't gonna deal with right, And you gonna need 1158 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 3: somebody to talk to so people can talk about the 1159 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 3: ship I talk about all day long. But what we 1160 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 3: haven't what what what is disgusting to me is that 1161 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 3: as many people that do go to church, we still 1162 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 3: have not figured out how to bring in a conversation 1163 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 3: of sex to the church. And that is an enemy 1164 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 3: to us because the only way to defeat the the 1165 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 3: number one rule of war is to know who your 1166 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 3: enemy is, to learn them mm hm. And you can't 1167 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 3: learn that when the church don't have The church got 1168 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 3: so many excuses about sex when the church need to 1169 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 3: have a conversation about sex. So you got everybody making 1170 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 3: up in their mind what they think is or the 1171 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 3: ideas that make sex work and the functionality of it 1172 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 3: and the faculties of it. That because it's in their 1173 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 3: mind and nobody has taught them or mentored them about 1174 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 3: sex and healthy sexual relationship and not even coming from 1175 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 3: their pastor then it's like, well, sex is up to 1176 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 3: whatever I believe. Sex is, the culture of it, the 1177 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: demonization of it, right right when we could just simply 1178 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 3: have a conversation. 1179 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Right right, right right now. Tell us about the day 1180 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 2: when you met your navy recruiter changed your life. 1181 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 3: Listen, Y'll let me tell you something. Navy recruiters are 1182 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 3: the worst. 1183 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 2: They are persistent. 1184 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 3: That's what I mean by the worst. Baby. So at 1185 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 3: that time, I was working at a sex store in 1186 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 3: Green Spot Mall and I would used to I would 1187 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 3: I would go to school the day because I went 1188 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 3: to Frenskman Beauty School, and then at night time I 1189 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 3: was stripped at night, and then sometimes I would get 1190 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 3: home so late that I wouldn't have enough time to sleep, 1191 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 3: So then I would just stay up and go to 1192 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 3: work the next morning. And the Greenspoint bog One entrance 1193 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: would only be opening. The interest that would be open 1194 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 3: would be the entrance to the military, the Army, the Navy, 1195 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 3: the Air Force, and the marine in the coast Guard. 1196 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 3: And so I would go through that interest and in 1197 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 3: the morning they had what you call deppers. They would 1198 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 3: come out and they little pt gear and stuff. They'd 1199 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 3: be out there running and stuff like that. And it 1200 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 3: was this neighbor recruiter. His name was Reese Tyler, and 1201 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 3: Reese used to see me every single morning. He would 1202 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 3: come and get the door for me. He was a 1203 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,479 Speaker 3: straight gentleman, handsome young man, light skinned, the green eyes. 1204 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 3: I mean, everything you could think of you wanting the man. 1205 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 3: He was just short. You know. It just wasn't never 1206 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 3: my type kind of thing, because I dealt with, you know, 1207 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 3: me and who was ready to give away money, not 1208 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 3: men who was gonna teach you how to make your 1209 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 3: own money. So he wasn't the type of person I 1210 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 3: would be attracted to. You see what I'm saying. And 1211 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 3: so you know, every day it would just be that 1212 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 3: conversation he would have with me, just you know, how 1213 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 3: you doing, you know what you've been up to today. 1214 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 3: Let me get the door for you. You know, you 1215 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 3: know you need to come join the navy. You know 1216 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 3: it's a lot of gentlemen in the navy. You know, 1217 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 3: it's a lot of men to get the door for you. 1218 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, if you can use all that skill I 1219 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 3: see you get the work on times. You can use 1220 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 3: that skill you get to work on time, you can 1221 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 3: use that in the navy. You know. That's only kept 1222 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 3: saying everything he was doing, he would say, you know, 1223 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 3: you could do that same thing in the navy. And 1224 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: so that's what I heard all the time, the same 1225 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 3: way I heard if I got pregnant all the time, 1226 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 3: I can have somewhere to stay well, because that man 1227 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 3: kept talking to me about the Navy all the time. 1228 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 3: When I girl, I was at Passion Cabaret. And this 1229 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 3: is in Houston, Texas, y'all, Passion don't exist anymore, but 1230 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 3: it's some people that know about Passion cabarets. It was 1231 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 3: on forty five in the Lord Shit, and I remember 1232 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 3: I got my ass whooped this particular day by my traffic, 1233 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 3: the one I was made to live with me and 1234 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 3: my kids. So time done went on. I'm a bottom 1235 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 3: bitch at this particular point. And it was something that happened. 1236 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 3: I didn't make no money, or I was mean to 1237 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 3: the to the UH manager or something I did, and 1238 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 3: I pissed him off, and this motherfucker just hauled off 1239 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 3: and hit me in front of everybody. And so I remember, 1240 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 3: you know, the next day, I had a black eye 1241 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 3: and I kept trying to put the makeup on it 1242 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 3: and stuff, but I was crying so much every time 1243 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 3: I put the makeup on it. The makeup with Wynn stayed. 1244 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 3: And that one particular morning I saw reath and you know, 1245 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 3: going to work and stuff like that, and uh he 1246 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 3: saw it, and I remember him just asking me, you know, 1247 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 3: whenever you're ready, we can do it today. We could 1248 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 3: do it today. Let's just do it today. He didn't 1249 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 3: ask me about my black eye. He didn't ask me, 1250 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 3: you know, about how it happened. You know, it was 1251 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 3: because you know, girls can talk a women can talk, brother, 1252 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 3: and you know, by the time he asked me how 1253 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 3: I was doing it went into all the way how 1254 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 3: I was doing into everything, and it was like, he 1255 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 3: didn't hear none of that shit. When you're ready to 1256 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 3: take this test, you can take this test. You do qualify. 1257 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 3: I don't care about your tattoos. I don't care that 1258 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 3: you don't have you know everything. It is unique and 1259 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 3: this is during the time, so you cannot get in 1260 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 3: the military with the GED at this particular time. This 1261 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 3: was when we had just had nine eleven. It just happened. 1262 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 3: So it was like five years into nine eleven, you know, 1263 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 3: during the war with Afghanistan and stuff, and the Navy 1264 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 3: started relaxing some of the restrictions on you know, who 1265 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 3: could get in and stuff like that, and so that 1266 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 3: was one of the things that qualified me to even 1267 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 3: be in the military, because I kept telling him, I 1268 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 3: was like, I don't qualify, like it was so it 1269 01:08:59,439 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 3: was so bad. 1270 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 2: I was. 1271 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 3: I was a depressed individual. I had no confidence. And 1272 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 3: you would think somebody who can get on stage and 1273 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 3: take their clothes off would have the most confidence. No, 1274 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 3: I had the most training, and I was groomed for 1275 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 3: how to handle that particular crown. I was not groomed 1276 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 3: and trained on how to handle corporate America m I 1277 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,759 Speaker 3: was not ready to actually put my name on something 1278 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 3: and commit to something long term and have a plan 1279 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 3: for my life on my future. 1280 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Thanks. 1281 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 3: That is the most scariest fucking thing you can do 1282 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 3: in the world when you are not independent person. I 1283 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 3: was codependent. I didn't have to worry about that shit 1284 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 3: because my pim did all of that for me. I 1285 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 3: don't get what people don't get about that shit, right, 1286 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, if it does, it does bother me because 1287 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 3: people will say, you know you do all of this stuff. 1288 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 3: You do now you know, how'd you do this? And 1289 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: how'd you do that? And how you know? No, it's 1290 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,879 Speaker 3: not a how'd you do? It was like every stage 1291 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 3: of excellence that I got into my life with somebody 1292 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 3: who believed in me, just such as yourself, and and 1293 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 3: would say, you know what, I honor you woman of 1294 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 3: God for what you went through. Give me tell me 1295 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 3: what you learned about that I want to know. And 1296 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 3: you know what, you are worthy? You were excellent and 1297 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 3: you are awesome and those words are affirmation. Is what 1298 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 3: would make me say, you know what, maybe I am worthy, 1299 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Maybe I can't take this to the next level and 1300 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 3: want to do something more with my life. So every advantage, 1301 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 3: every opportunity for advancement, somebody would say something positive that 1302 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 3: made me want to be a better me every single time. 1303 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 3: And when I ended up going to the Navy, I 1304 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 3: remember because, like I said, it was the beginning of 1305 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 3: the war, and you know, we all got our badges 1306 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 3: for or what is it terrorism? A national terrorism? Like 1307 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 3: just uh badge? I can't think it. What was calling 1308 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 3: that because I'm I ain't been a military in so long. 1309 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 3: I remember us watching the movie. They were showing some 1310 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 3: of the scenes of what happened when you go to 1311 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 3: war for the Afghan War and stuff like that, and 1312 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, we're standing there with our recruit hats on, 1313 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 3: and you cannot take the recruit hat off until you 1314 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 3: get to like the final stage, so you could put 1315 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,560 Speaker 3: the semen hat on. And so before you put the 1316 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 3: semen hat on, they make you watch this video. They 1317 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 3: show you what it's like to go to war and 1318 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 3: to show you what it's like to not leave a 1319 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 3: man behind. And I remember watching that movie and we're 1320 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 3: all standing there. We have been sleep deprived, we have 1321 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 3: not had any sleep. This is the end of training. 1322 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 3: And I'm just like boohoop crying because at that particular point, 1323 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 3: It brought me right back to that scripture what Jesus said, 1324 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 3: He's the one who would leave the ninety nine and 1325 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 3: would not lead in and would go back to get 1326 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 3: the one. He's the one who would never leave the 1327 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:04,720 Speaker 3: one behind. And I kept thinking, Oh my god, I'm 1328 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 3: the one God didn't leave you. What position me, what 1329 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 3: positioned me to such a time is this to understand 1330 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 3: what it's like, how hard it is to actually leave 1331 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,639 Speaker 3: a life like that and to go into corporate America 1332 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 3: without feeling like you're judge or people don't like you, 1333 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 3: or people don't want to work next to you because 1334 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,639 Speaker 3: of your life. And to see all of these white people, 1335 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 3: you know, these white people and these black people and 1336 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 3: these Asian people, you know, so many people from around 1337 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 3: the world, the majority white people, but to you know, 1338 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 3: sit next to them and eat with them and breathe 1339 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 3: their air and. 1340 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Just to be considered it equal, you can be considered 1341 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 2: an equal. 1342 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 3: And it's like I was hustling y'all for y'all money, 1343 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,680 Speaker 3: but now I have to be the one who might 1344 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 3: have to go in and save somebody's life. And they 1345 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 3: might be white, they might be black, like it didn't 1346 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 3: matter the color but I would be chosen to save 1347 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 3: a life when I needed to be saved, and that 1348 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 3: was the toughest transition of my life. That was the 1349 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 3: toughest treses because I still needed to be saved and 1350 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 3: I had to transition my mind out of you've already 1351 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 3: been rescued. Now you got to continue to survive. Now 1352 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 3: you got to continue this fight. And that is when 1353 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 3: the war happens, because people, when you grow and you 1354 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 3: do better with your life and people remember where you was, 1355 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 3: people will leave you where they remembered you and not 1356 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 3: let you move forward with your memories because of their 1357 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 3: memory of you. That was the war I've had to 1358 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 3: deal with four years of my life because people had 1359 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 3: already knew that. And it was so funny as I 1360 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 3: made so many jokes. When I was in the Navy 1361 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,839 Speaker 3: and I served my country probably for eight years, everybody 1362 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 3: knew I was a stripper. I did not hide that 1363 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 3: shit from no fucking body nobody. I didn't hide my 1364 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 3: children with we had to go to work and it 1365 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 3: was time to go to work, and I didn't have 1366 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 3: nobody to keep my kids. And if we was on 1367 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 3: the weekend, my kids was coming to fucking work. With 1368 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 3: me right. My captains didn't say nothing that you know 1369 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,719 Speaker 3: what they would say. And this is the difference between 1370 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 3: broke people and rich white men, because you could be 1371 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 3: a broke white person too. My captains and them, you 1372 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 3: know what they would tell me, well, looks like the 1373 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 3: navy is growing. That was it. I wasn't offended by 1374 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 3: that or nothing. Everybody would chuckle and keep it going. 1375 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 3: And if I needed to do some work and my kids, 1376 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 3: was there something people, I'll just hand them off here. 1377 01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 3: Y'all help me until I can get this done over here. 1378 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 3: To me, that was the greatest big sister, big brother sisterhood, 1379 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 3: brotherhood you could ever have on God's green earth right there. 1380 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 3: That to be around people who really stood up to say, 1381 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 3: you know, I got your six I got your back 1382 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 3: for real, I got your back. So that's why even 1383 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 3: with raising my kids, it was, like I said, it's 1384 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 3: always so confusing to me. Our people say certain things 1385 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 3: about you and stuff. And I'm just like my kids 1386 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 3: with me. Everywhere I went. They the same experiences I had. 1387 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 3: They had them too like we because we grew up 1388 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 3: with each other. So my kids and I we have 1389 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:41,200 Speaker 3: a very very different relationship with each other because we 1390 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 3: grew up with each other. 1391 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 2: So, and speaking of your kids, how has your relationship 1392 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 2: with adults from your childhood and packed your journey with motherhood? 1393 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 2: Because I can already tell you a hands on mom. 1394 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 3: Oh, I am definitely a hands on fucking mom. You 1395 01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 3: know what. I was just talking to my my ex 1396 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 3: sister in law about this that was recently something that 1397 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,560 Speaker 3: had happened that you know. So my daughter's dad is 1398 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 3: is my trafficker. He's one of my traffickers. And I 1399 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 3: finally came out and said, like who he was and 1400 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 3: stuff like that. I'm not gonna mention it here, y'all 1401 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 3: gonna have to find it somewhere else because I ain't messy. 1402 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 3: But he had he No, I don't necessarily, I mean, 1403 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 3: he ain't nobody to know, but I mean, shit, he's 1404 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 3: somebody to look out for. I wouldn't do business with 1405 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 3: him or let my children be up, you know, no 1406 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,560 Speaker 3: ship like that. But I was just talking about that, 1407 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 3: you know. I was telling her because he had did 1408 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 3: some shady ship and and I written her message and 1409 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 3: I said, you know, the same energy that y'all had 1410 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 3: about me growing up raising my children, I need y'all 1411 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 3: to have the same energy about you know, him when 1412 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 3: he's doing things that are frustrating the progress of of 1413 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 3: me being where I'm at right now, but just where 1414 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 3: my children are right now, Like, keep the keep it positive, 1415 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 3: don't don't don't take me back to where where I 1416 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 3: was because I'm not there. But he not gonna do 1417 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 3: the same thing. Y'all was okay with thinking I was 1418 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 3: doing and then just pat him on the hand and say, oh, 1419 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 3: he just made the boo boo, it's gonna be all right, no, 1420 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 3: because that's not how y'all did me right, y'all, y'all, 1421 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 3: this was torture. It was it was terroristic, It's what 1422 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 3: this was. And I was not acknowledged as a good 1423 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 3: mother at all, you know, and know when because it 1424 01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 3: was when I stood up in court and with the 1425 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 3: court you know, the judge was uh, you know, insulting 1426 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 3: me and saying, you know, oh, don't tell him the 1427 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 3: court room, Oh don't be like this mother. She she 1428 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 3: had sex with me in in front of her children. 1429 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody say that shit to him? And he stood 1430 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 3: in courtant told the court he had been with me 1431 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,599 Speaker 3: since I was sixteen years old, at an age when 1432 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 3: you cannot consent to say how that same fucking energy, right, 1433 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 3: So I didn't. I didn't respond to her. What I 1434 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 3: did was I hearted her message, but I knew the 1435 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 3: position that she was gonna take because she specifically said, 1436 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 3: you know, it's about the kid, and it was. It 1437 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 3: was about the kid. That's basically what her message was. 1438 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 3: And I looked at it's about the kid, it's about 1439 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 3: the kid. And I looked at the message, and she 1440 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 3: reminded me of everything I experienced as a child when 1441 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 3: people dismissed how what they did made me feel my 1442 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,600 Speaker 3: feelings was dismissed. What happened to me was dismissed. And 1443 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 3: it's not so much that it was just, you know, 1444 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 3: so much of dismissal. It was the non acknowledgment. 1445 01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 1: Right. 1446 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 3: So the people in my family, especially like my mother's 1447 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 3: side of the family, I don't talk to them at 1448 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 3: all because you you know more about my life than 1449 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 3: apparently I know more about my life. But there has 1450 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:22,759 Speaker 3: been no acknowledgement of redemption of Hey, we was wrong, 1451 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 3: we took the wrong attitude, we went about this the 1452 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 3: wrong way. We should have supported you. More is still 1453 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 3: let me raw, raw, raw about the decisions you made 1454 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 3: as a child, And I'm like, well, I made those 1455 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 3: decisions and self defense of the the yes surviving, but 1456 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 3: the lack of opportunity that existed for me right And 1457 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 3: all I ever wanted was for that to be acknowledged. 1458 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 3: And what I had to come to the conclusion was 1459 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 3: and what I had to learn. And I was talking 1460 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 3: to my mentor, Jennifer home, and we were talking. 1461 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 2: I love her. 1462 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 3: We were talking and one of the things she told me, 1463 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,560 Speaker 3: she said, the same people that hurt you, you do 1464 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 3: not need them to heal you. And I had to 1465 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:17,640 Speaker 3: think about that, and I was like that that was 1466 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,960 Speaker 3: my problem. That was my problem the whole time. I 1467 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 3: wanted the people who had hurt me so bad to 1468 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 3: heal me where I was hurting at it really not 1469 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 3: necessarily heal me, y'all, but because I know we got 1470 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 3: podcasts are listening, But to have that conversation with me 1471 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 3: and tell me what you was thinking, tell me in 1472 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 3: all honesty, and then let me tell you what I 1473 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 3: was thinking. Not just walk around with this prejudgmental view 1474 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 3: of me without me being able to explain to you, 1475 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 3: you know, like hey, or did I do that when 1476 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 3: I was younger. Okay, cool, here's what I was thinking, 1477 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 3: Here's what I was going through, right, Okay, fine, but 1478 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 3: you also acknowledge and having the accountability of your hand 1479 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 3: in my shit, right, because a lot of them had 1480 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 3: their hand in my shit, and they just they want 1481 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 3: to be so far removed. And I'm like, how can 1482 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 3: you remove yourself you participated in this bullshit happening to me? 1483 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Because if they remove themselves and that's the way of 1484 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,560 Speaker 2: them saying that it never had they was never a 1485 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 2: part of it. 1486 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they was never a part of it. They don't 1487 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 3: want no guilt in and this stuff, and so I 1488 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 3: just I feel like, you know, it's just they got 1489 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,920 Speaker 3: the freedom to live their life. I know that they 1490 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes people feel like, you know, they're on 1491 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 3: eggshells because they're waiting to see. They listen to wait 1492 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 3: to see if I'm gonna say they name, and I'm 1493 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 3: just put it out there. You ain't worth me saying 1494 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 3: your name. You ain't worth me talking about publicly me 1495 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 3: sending people to your page, or you know, people disenfranchising 1496 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 3: your businesses and stuff like that, you know, because that's 1497 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,840 Speaker 3: not what it was about. It's truly about healing. Now, DFPS. 1498 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 3: I fuck with them. I fuck with them because the 1499 01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:02,839 Speaker 3: commissioner of DFPS or Jamie Masters, they Jamie Masthew Blanca 1500 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,960 Speaker 3: Denise and Ada mccleoud, they had met me some event 1501 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 3: we had done and they wanted to hear they heard 1502 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,560 Speaker 3: my story and stuff like that, and they say, you 1503 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,600 Speaker 3: know what, we want you to tell your story to 1504 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 3: the department because we want to know where we failed 1505 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 3: you at and where we messed up at. And at 1506 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 3: that point I saw not just corporate social responsibility, but 1507 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 3: corporate sustainability. All are you know black girls who have 1508 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,640 Speaker 3: been traffic, black girls who have been treated unjustly by 1509 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 3: the criminal justice system? How did they fare well after 1510 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 3: you know of stuff have happened? And what can the 1511 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,719 Speaker 3: department do to be better and have just situational awareness? 1512 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,480 Speaker 3: I thought that was really really cool. And the commissioner 1513 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 3: she got up on stage after I told my story 1514 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 3: and she apologized to me publicly. And when she did that, 1515 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 3: she removed and to mind you, this was apo you 1516 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 3: twenty years after the fact, right, she removed twenty years 1517 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 3: of her by just saying we are sorry and we 1518 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 3: see you. That. I mean, even thinking about it right 1519 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 3: now brings me to tears, and it brought me to 1520 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 3: the scripture in the Bible when God says that when 1521 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 3: a man's ways please God, he will make even his 1522 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 3: enemies be at peace with him. And I stand on 1523 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,839 Speaker 3: that word. I stand on that conviction. I am totally 1524 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 3: convicted about that. And I honestly believe that if you 1525 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 3: have an art with your brother, because that's what the 1526 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,599 Speaker 3: word says, then you need to go talk to your 1527 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 3: brother and about that art. And y'all saw the matter. 1528 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,640 Speaker 3: But there are some people who do not believe the 1529 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 3: word and stand on the word that way, where if 1530 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 3: they have an art about something that they want to 1531 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 3: have that conversation. Some people just you know, like I said, 1532 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 3: they want to be far removed when they had so 1533 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 3: much of a hand and the adultification in the human trafficking. 1534 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, my human trafficking was more 1535 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 3: or less around people protecting the person who was trafficking me. Right, 1536 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 3: you understand what I'm saying now, Though I dealt with 1537 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 3: that all my life, watching watching somebody who had traffic 1538 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 3: me and done all these things to me, you know, 1539 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,959 Speaker 3: live like a protected class of citizen. While I suffered, 1540 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 3: I suffered, I fought to give my kids back. You know, 1541 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 3: it took me almost ten years to get my kids back, 1542 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 3: and I had to go study law, and I ain't 1543 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 3: know a goddamn think about law. I knew a goddamn 1544 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,600 Speaker 3: think about a pleading. And the reason why law is 1545 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 3: so difficult to understand is because you have to know 1546 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 3: the king's language. That's why in court there's a judge 1547 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 3: or a magistrate. It's the king's language. You need to 1548 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 3: You need everybody, need to everybody, especially when you work 1549 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 3: around calling yourself a king, go and queen. You need 1550 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 3: to have the fucking Roberts Rule in your back pocket 1551 01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 3: because you need to know the king's language. You cannot 1552 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 3: walk around here. Same conversation I'm having with y'all on 1553 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 3: this podcast, it's not the same conversation that I'm having 1554 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 3: with legislators when I'm standing before a Democratic and Republican 1555 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,800 Speaker 3: men plead in my case about why we should push 1556 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 3: this law forward. They don't get this side of it. 1557 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 3: And I ain't cod switching. Do I tell it like 1558 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 3: it is? Y'all tell it like it is. But you 1559 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 3: gotta remember, I'm in the office and I'm talking to kings, 1560 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 3: so you have to have the language of a king. Right, 1561 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,640 Speaker 3: you can't go to the king with the with the 1562 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 3: peasants tongue. M So, y'all stop that right, stop that. 1563 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,599 Speaker 3: You can't be Oh, I'm a queen and you out 1564 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 3: here ra rad in every five minutes. No nigga, I'm 1565 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 3: in advocacy. My raw raw is different, not nin nigga. Okay. 1566 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure we clear. 1567 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 2: Nine hands down. This has been one of my favorite episodes. 1568 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 2: We got two questions and that said, that's the first 1569 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 2: question is how do we help someone who is in 1570 01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 2: this situation? 1571 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, so I do human trafficking privilege. And that's when 1572 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,719 Speaker 3: these CS Network Incorporated is about we help the children 1573 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 3: of the pimpster, children of the victims of sex trafficking, 1574 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 3: the children of the prostitutes, because those are the ones 1575 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 3: that get left through the crack and or fall through 1576 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 3: the cracks, those the ones that get caught in together 1577 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 3: because people automatically so that if the parent is like that, 1578 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 3: the child is going to be like that as well. 1579 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 3: And you got some moms who are just leaving their kids, 1580 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,640 Speaker 3: their younger kids at home with their older siblings, and 1581 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 3: the older siblings can't live like because they're raising your children, okay, 1582 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 3: and so that that's a problem, and so you don't 1583 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 3: you don't want that, and those kids end up being 1584 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 3: adultified and having to find food and having to find 1585 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 3: keep the shelter, keep the lights on, so to say, 1586 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, or keep the bills paid and stuff like that. 1587 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 3: And the reason why prostitutional rate is going up is 1588 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 3: because kids are hungry. But one of the things I 1589 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 3: tell people, you know, not just to be vigilant, but 1590 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 3: to make sure you know, if you got to kid 1591 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 3: that's at school and you see they hungry, meaning they 1592 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 3: going to there's somebody who don't just eat the one plate. 1593 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 3: They always going back to seconds and third, third, that's 1594 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 3: something's going on. Sometimes it's not just oh that kid 1595 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 3: is a teenager and they're being hungry. Sometimes they might 1596 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,560 Speaker 3: be their kid may got to go to work that 1597 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 3: night and they ain't got no food to eat because 1598 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,800 Speaker 3: they are on the street, or they got to go, 1599 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 3: you know, hook up with their mama's john or hook 1600 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 3: up with their own sugar daddy and they're tired, right, 1601 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: and people don't think about that. I love my impact 1602 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 3: partners of crop stops at Houston, who have allowed me 1603 01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,080 Speaker 3: to develop and train a lot of corporate companies on 1604 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 3: human trafficking. But as well as we've come up with 1605 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,280 Speaker 3: the child safety kids. Now, I know the Child Safety 1606 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 3: kids sing corny, but they're not corny. You know, if 1607 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,599 Speaker 3: you got a kid right now, you took your kid 1608 01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 3: to the doctor, I guarantee you every thing that the 1609 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 3: doctor wrote up about your children. You're not walking out 1610 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 3: that doctor's office with that information. You understand what I'm saying. 1611 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 3: And so with the Child Safety kid, we want to 1612 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 3: put that power back into the parents' hands and we 1613 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,520 Speaker 3: want them to start writing down everything that is identifiable 1614 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 3: about their child and their child safety kid. So the 1615 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,560 Speaker 3: doctor shouldn't be on the ones walking around with the 1616 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 3: teeth identifying markers and stuff. You should have it too. 1617 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 3: They shouldn't be the only ones walking around with DNA samples. 1618 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 3: You should have DNA samples of your own children. But 1619 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 3: most importantly, the first part of the DNA is the 1620 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 3: finger printing, and so you fringer put your own children 1621 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 3: and you keep that in the safe. I mean, just 1622 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 3: simple things to protect our kids. A lot of our 1623 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 3: kids come up missing, a lot of our kids become abducted. 1624 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 3: Abduction is non human trafficking. An abduction is an abduction. 1625 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 3: So sometimes you do have an abduction offenders who traffic girls. 1626 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 3: But if sex trafficking has not happened, then you just 1627 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 3: didn't with an abduction. And even in that situation or 1628 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 3: that scenario, you want to be able to have some 1629 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 3: DNA to give to the police or that they can 1630 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 3: start their preliminary investigation. You want to be you want 1631 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 3: to be able to give somebody who's looking for your kid, 1632 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 3: if your kid come up missing more information than they 1633 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,720 Speaker 3: asked for because you did the due diligence before the 1634 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,719 Speaker 3: situation happened. You want to take control of your house. 1635 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 3: And so this is whether you're a parent, this is 1636 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 3: whether you're a teacher. I give this out to a 1637 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 3: lot of teachers encourage their parents to get them as well. 1638 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 3: Things like that. To that nature, you want to be 1639 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:43,360 Speaker 3: cautious of, you know, massage brothels and things like that. 1640 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 3: Like right now, we have over thirty five hundred enlicit 1641 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 3: brotheos that are next to you know, schools, and we 1642 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:56,680 Speaker 3: have one of the largest ISD's independent school districts in 1643 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 3: the world, which is Houston Independent School District. And you know, 1644 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,040 Speaker 3: of course we have a lot of problems, But one 1645 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 3: of those, you know problems, is having that wrap around 1646 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,799 Speaker 3: service for what I for my specialty. Because nobody's thinking 1647 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 3: sex is a social impediment to students that they can't 1648 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 3: focus and do their work. But sex is a social 1649 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,520 Speaker 3: impedimental students that they can't do focus and do their works. 1650 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 3: Not only sex. When you add sex with social media, 1651 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 3: you got a very diverse component. When you add sex 1652 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,640 Speaker 3: social media and then only fast, then you got a 1653 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:37,719 Speaker 3: super outrage a super imposed diverse component to this child 1654 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 3: thinking right, being able to concentrate their developmental skills, how 1655 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 3: fast they understand adult life, you know, wanting to exercise 1656 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 3: independence and wanted to understand money and how money is 1657 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 3: using and how it's purpose for. But when you get 1658 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 3: kids that understand money and they only understand one type 1659 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 3: of currency and how that currency is used only one way, 1660 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,560 Speaker 3: you got a problem. Mmm, because you gonna have a 1661 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 3: bunch of kids that's facilitating criminal activity versus children that 1662 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 3: are out here being entrepreneurs. And that makes all the difference. 1663 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,120 Speaker 3: That's why we need people like me and stuff because 1664 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 3: I deal with at risk uston kids that have dealt 1665 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 3: with the justice or have been impacted by the justice 1666 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,519 Speaker 3: system or the juvenile justice system. I mean, that's that's 1667 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 3: what I'm here for. But you know, the signs are clear. 1668 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,120 Speaker 3: If your homegirl got an iPhone fifteen and they ain't 1669 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,160 Speaker 3: even out yet, but you know how mama and them 1670 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 3: on welfare and food stamps and they ain't got that 1671 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 3: kind of money. Okay, since what's up where you're getting 1672 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 3: all this money from? Right? You know, those kind of 1673 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,120 Speaker 3: questions got to ask. If you're in school and you're 1674 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 3: dealing with somebody in school and you get a little 1675 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,320 Speaker 3: boy and he he how high and about running a 1676 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 3: train on the girl, Okay, well, then you need to 1677 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 3: ask more questions. If they ran the train on the girl, 1678 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,680 Speaker 3: they just sex traffic somebody. Right. If you got a 1679 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,760 Speaker 3: daughter and your daughter dating a football player and he 1680 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 3: he the most popular football player, and he tell his girlfriend, hey, 1681 01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 3: if you love me, then you asleep with all my 1682 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,200 Speaker 3: football players, my partners with me, then your son just 1683 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 3: traffic somebody's daughter, right, Right. These are conversations that we 1684 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 3: need to be having that that we're not having. If 1685 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,840 Speaker 3: you still walk around here talking about some uncle daddy 1686 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 3: is a relative uncle daddy probably sleeping with your daughter. 1687 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,479 Speaker 2: Too, that's a fact. 1688 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,599 Speaker 3: And paying her and paying her to be quiet. 1689 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 2: Mm hm. 1690 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 3: And you can't just worry about uncle daddy. You got 1691 01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,160 Speaker 3: you got daddy too. That's you know, perverted. You know, 1692 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,720 Speaker 3: we still you know, I understand Santa Claus, and I 1693 01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,040 Speaker 3: get I get what people you know are trying to 1694 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 3: imply with Santa Claus. But socially we should be grown 1695 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 3: out of the whole Santa Claus situation because you ain't 1696 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,840 Speaker 3: gonna tell me to make my child sit on some 1697 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:03,519 Speaker 3: unmann knowns lap. Right, it's too much shit going on. 1698 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,519 Speaker 3: It's too much shit going on in the world for 1699 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,679 Speaker 3: that to even be considered a safe space, an unknown 1700 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:16,479 Speaker 3: man's lap. I don't care what the season is. That's 1701 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,680 Speaker 3: that's not it, right, Yo. 1702 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 2: When I was growing up, I couldn't sit on nobody's lap. 1703 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, at nine o'clock, your bitch anibles in the house. 1704 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:37,479 Speaker 3: The Michaels gonna take your ass home, right, We was 1705 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 3: cooking dinner when the last time you now, I hurry 1706 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,720 Speaker 3: up and go home to cook dinner. Y'all homegry what 1707 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 3: y'all want to eat? Let's try something different. I'll be 1708 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 3: in there trying to sworn chicken and shit. I don't 1709 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,639 Speaker 3: know nothing, but no, God damn sh sworn you said, babe, 1710 01:33:54,680 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 3: how you sworn chicken? No? No, right, But now I understand. 1711 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 3: While my wife sister's always making that green bean cancel 1712 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,600 Speaker 3: ro shit sometimes, put that ship with some cheese and 1713 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 3: mushroom soup. Holler at thinking in the oven. That's it, right, 1714 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 3: I get it right. 1715 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,240 Speaker 2: And last, but not least, what is your advice to 1716 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,879 Speaker 2: those who are survivors of human trafficking? 1717 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, where do I start with the advice to 1718 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 3: human trafficking? I'll start here. The Bible says that a 1719 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,759 Speaker 3: wise woman builds a house, but a foolish woman plucking 1720 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 3: down with her hand. Notice that the Bible didn't say 1721 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:51,640 Speaker 3: a wise wife builds a house. That means that you 1722 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 3: need to have your own life before you become somebody's wife. Child. 1723 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,599 Speaker 2: I be telling these bitches, Oh you see what I'm saying. 1724 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,720 Speaker 3: You need to have your own life. A man is 1725 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:13,679 Speaker 3: not a financial plan. Thanks. You cannot live your life 1726 01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 3: like that, says Big Bro. Like it's not it's not 1727 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:24,400 Speaker 3: going to work. You're gonna have to be a facilitator 1728 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 3: of your own happiness. You cannot depend on people to 1729 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:33,680 Speaker 3: co facilitate your happiness. Happiness, first of all, is circumstantial, 1730 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 3: so nobody owes you anything for you to be happy. Okay, 1731 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,519 Speaker 3: So and then you cannot walk around here expecting everybody 1732 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 3: to intervene in your life. You don't want too many 1733 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 3: people putting your hands on your life and your situation anyways, 1734 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 3: because it'll be more of a burden than it is 1735 01:35:52,960 --> 01:36:00,679 Speaker 3: a problem. Too much help can be a downfall mm hmmm, 1736 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,519 Speaker 3: because you need you there are some things, there's some 1737 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,160 Speaker 3: things that by not receiving the help will make you 1738 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 3: be the self starter that you were born to be. 1739 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 3: Your self start shouldn't only be the push button in 1740 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 3: your car. Your self start button should be in your mind. 1741 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:27,120 Speaker 3: You should be able to start something, finish something, complete something, 1742 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 3: begin something. And your ideas do matter, right, they do matter. 1743 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 3: Your creativity does matter. And that's the thing about people 1744 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 3: who've been abused for many years, Usually they're not very 1745 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:44,719 Speaker 3: creative people. And so it is time for you, since 1746 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,679 Speaker 3: survive on human trafficking, to go learn some new things 1747 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,800 Speaker 3: about you and stop trying to learn people that you're 1748 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 3: trying to be in love with. Sit your ass down, 1749 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,800 Speaker 3: make them learn you because you still learning you right, 1750 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,720 Speaker 3: get to like you, get to know you, get to 1751 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,479 Speaker 3: spend time, get to spend time with yourself and not 1752 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 3: with and stop romanticizing up about the ideas of being 1753 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 3: in a relationship, and don't be quick to be in 1754 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 3: a relationship and quick to be a marriage because marriage 1755 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:21,560 Speaker 3: is a lot of work and it's not for everybody. 1756 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 3: It's a lot a lot of work. So that's my advice. Now, 1757 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 3: I hope it was good. 1758 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,000 Speaker 2: It was fire. I am so appreciative of you. I 1759 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,599 Speaker 2: think you too for allowing me to find you because 1760 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,040 Speaker 2: I've been looking for someone to speak on this topic 1761 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 2: and I feel like you are the epitome of what 1762 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,800 Speaker 2: my brand stands for, the professional homegirls. 1763 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,200 Speaker 3: So I really, really really thank you so much. 1764 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 2: Like I we're gonna talk off the screens. I want 1765 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,680 Speaker 2: to share something with you, but I'm super excited I 1766 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 2: met you, like seriously, Ah. 1767 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 3: Since I love you already and we go stay in touch. 1768 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,160 Speaker 2: Yes, we already are, because I'm going to share some 1769 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 2: exciting news that the listeners don't know yet. But if 1770 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 2: y'all have any questions come as to discerns, please make 1771 01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,080 Speaker 2: sure the email me at Hello at the psgpodcast dot 1772 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 2: com and until next time, everyone later. 1773 01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:19,759 Speaker 3: Peace. 1774 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 2: The Professional Homegirl Podcast is a production of the Black 1775 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 2: Effect podcast Network. 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