WEBVTT - Who invented the radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an editor at how stuff works dot com. Sitting

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<v Speaker 1>across me, as usual, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember all my life raining down as cold as ice. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy uh and am radio Classic. Yeah, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>today about who invented the radio? And you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that this would have a very easy answer and that

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<v Speaker 1>we could give it and then you could be on

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<v Speaker 1>your Mary Little way. Not so fast. Yes, As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, I was. I was reading a book

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago that made me think about topics

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<v Speaker 1>like this. But and Jonathan and I've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to TV, because there were two people who

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<v Speaker 1>were working on how to create an electrical television like

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<v Speaker 1>rather than than a mechanical because mechanical TVs have been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a while, but no one had come up

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<v Speaker 1>with uh, an easily manufactured electric version. Right. But in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, we were really talking about primarily two people,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're sort of talking about two people here, give

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<v Speaker 1>or take another twelve or fifteen. Right, Yeah, there's two

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<v Speaker 1>people that ultimately the question tends to boil down to.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's even that is too simplistic a a look

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<v Speaker 1>at radio. So to really get a get a handle

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<v Speaker 1>on how complex this topic is, you actually have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back more than five decades before radio came into being,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. And and again, like a lot of scientific discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>each new iteration is an improvement on another technology or

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<v Speaker 1>uses a technology that has recently been discovered in a

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<v Speaker 1>new way. So we're really this is another one of

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<v Speaker 1>those standing on the shoulders of giants situation, very very apt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is all taking place, well, the earliest parts

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<v Speaker 1>are taking place in the early nineteenth century, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of it's taking place within a two decade period at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the nineteenth century. Some of it's spilling

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<v Speaker 1>over into the early twentieth century. And you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>an era in which you have an enormous intellectual revolution. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got people who are wicked smart. Right, these are

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<v Speaker 1>guys and gals as well. I mean, we're in an

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<v Speaker 1>age where there were science was reigning supreme Science scientists

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<v Speaker 1>were the rock stars of this era. They really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of were. Yeah, I mean, you had scientists who could

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<v Speaker 1>command the attention of thousands at at a speech. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really hard to imagine now because you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think of like the guy from the LHC

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<v Speaker 1>getting up and people doing the wave. But back then,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were the people who were shaping the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really a fascinating time, and there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many developments and so many people were working on this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of technology at the same time. There's no surprise

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<v Speaker 1>that there's controversy because you've got a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>all trying to figure out how to have a useful

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<v Speaker 1>application of a newly discovered law or or or feature

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. Right, So clearly you're gonna have some overlap.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start from before we're even talking about radio,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So we're gonna talk about in eighteen thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy named Samuel Morse, and Samuel Morris, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is famous for inventing the telegraph as well as Morse Code,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the series of bleeps and buzzes that that

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<v Speaker 1>would allow you to transmit information to communicate over wires

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<v Speaker 1>over a long distance. Right. That the telegraph really changed

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<v Speaker 1>the way the world communicated um significantly. Right. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those those technologies that we like to say makes

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<v Speaker 1>the world smaller, because it significantly reduced the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time that that news traveled the world. We heard about

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<v Speaker 1>things far more quickly than we used to in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>People were able to communicate with one another across great distances,

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<v Speaker 1>of which you had to have a cable in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make that happen. Yeah, and that was the that

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<v Speaker 1>was the big barrier, right. I mean, the cable was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a lot more efficient than say the pony express

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<v Speaker 1>or carrying a message across the ocean on a on

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<v Speaker 1>a ship, but you still had to have a cable.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to have a physical connection between two stations

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<v Speaker 1>in order to transmit information, and unfortunately that would mean

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<v Speaker 1>that certain remote areas could not easily get a station. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It also meant that you had a physical object that

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<v Speaker 1>could withstand only so much punishment before it failed. So

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<v Speaker 1>you had a cable that could be broken or there

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<v Speaker 1>could be some sort of interference there. That that meant

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<v Speaker 1>that it was While it was a huge leap in

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<v Speaker 1>communication from what came previously. There had to be a

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<v Speaker 1>better way. Once it became apparent to companies that the

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<v Speaker 1>telegraph could make them lots and lots of money, people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to find better ways to use the telegraph and

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<v Speaker 1>better telegraph technology, right because you gotta remember that first

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<v Speaker 1>telegraph wire, all it could do is transmit these these

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you couldn't there was no way to convert

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<v Speaker 1>human voice into uh electricity and transmitted across a wire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet no one had figured that part out back in

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<v Speaker 1>seven And also you could only transmit information one way

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. You couldn't have two way communications simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>That and and that's one of the things that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of inventors were out to to do in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century. They were earnestly looking for ways

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<v Speaker 1>to improve to to make uh, make it possible to

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<v Speaker 1>send telegraph messages in two ways, to improve the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of the technology, um without necessarily just laying a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of cables and having one b one way and the

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<v Speaker 1>other being the other way. And you can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've just doubled your costs exactly. The creating the

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure for this system is is costly, as we all

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<v Speaker 1>know for talking about things like, uh, you know, replacing

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<v Speaker 1>twisted wire telephone lines with fiber optics, or even replacing

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<v Speaker 1>two G cellular technology with three G or four G technology.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, even then, you're talking about major changes to infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as simple as oh, well, we just need

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<v Speaker 1>to throw in a software patch and everything will be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as simple as that. And some of you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember um us talking in the past about the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet cables that run across the ocean. Every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, something will clip one of them and will

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<v Speaker 1>knock out communication temporarily as traffic gets rerouted through the

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<v Speaker 1>other lines. But you know, it's having those giant wires

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<v Speaker 1>um running across the ocean is sort of impractical. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not only costly, it's it's impractical. So I mean, it works,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you have to worry about maintenance and

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<v Speaker 1>and the possibility that something will cut one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cables or that it will just age and snap. So um.

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<v Speaker 1>So people were looking into this, but investors were willing

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<v Speaker 1>to back that because they saw the possibility that they

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<v Speaker 1>might make lots and lots of money if they're uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if the inventors were able to capitalize on that. But

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<v Speaker 1>some of them inadvertently started discovering other technologies and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those advancements came out. It turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be laying the groundwork for radio. Yeah, And some of

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<v Speaker 1>some scientists were working independently of the whole communications UH

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<v Speaker 1>aspect entirely, and they were just interested in learning more

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<v Speaker 1>about the way our universe works. One of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>was a mathematician named James Clerk Maxwell, and thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years after the invent invention of the telegraph, so in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty seven, he started to think about light in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that no one else had thought of up

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<v Speaker 1>to that point. And he was thinking of light as

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<v Speaker 1>an electro magnetic phenomenon. Okay, so he's looking at light

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<v Speaker 1>and electric waves and magnetic waves, and he he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>these things are connected. These are not discrete UH phenomena.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all somehow part of a spectrum of phenomena.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was revolutionary. Now, unfortunately Maxwell was unable to

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<v Speaker 1>prove his theory during his lifetime. Now we know today

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<v Speaker 1>that this is true, that that the light that we

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<v Speaker 1>see that's part of the electromagnetic spectrum. We only can

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<v Speaker 1>we can only perceive a very narrow band of that

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic spectrum with our eyes. Now, other parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic spectrum can affect us sometimes in really nasty ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we can only see a pretty narrow band

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So Maxwell was really ahead of his time,

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<v Speaker 1>and his his theories were part of what laid the

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<v Speaker 1>scientific groundwork for radio. So you had the technological groundwork

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<v Speaker 1>and you had the scientific groundwork, and these things are

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<v Speaker 1>converging at a really rapid rate. And we see that

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<v Speaker 1>come to a head in the eighties. Really. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody you might have heard of, um, Heinrich Hurts. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first person to measure act to actually

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<v Speaker 1>measure the speed of radio waves. Um. And he basically

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<v Speaker 1>he at the time he was a professor at a

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<v Speaker 1>German high school. Um. And what he was doing he

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<v Speaker 1>used a couple of parabolic mirrors and a spark gap. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have seen spark gap in those old timey

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<v Speaker 1>monster movies. The two pieces of metal that are are

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<v Speaker 1>sort of together at one end and they diverge slightly

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<v Speaker 1>and there the spark travels up from the short distance

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<v Speaker 1>the long distance and it looks kind of spooky. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a it's stock for your average crazy

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<v Speaker 1>scientists laboratory. So so they have three doesn't surprise me,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't put your hand in there. So uh so

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Hurts basically proved what, uh, what Maxwell was suggesting.

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<v Speaker 1>He was able to transmit a spark um from one

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<v Speaker 1>antenna with a spark gap in a ring um to another.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, basically this was kind of fascinating because at

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<v Speaker 1>the time there was nothing, I mean, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>obvious connection. So you would look at it and go,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that spark has traveled. Right. You had

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<v Speaker 1>you had one thing generating a spark right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you had an antenna on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>room that could pick up uh. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a difference in voltage there, and the there was no

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<v Speaker 1>visible means of transmission. How did the energy from this

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<v Speaker 1>one thing on one side of the room transmit to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, right? They Not only did he show

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<v Speaker 1>that that Maxwell's right, uh, and he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>measure the speed um of the of the waves and

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<v Speaker 1>and show that the waves traveled in straight lines and

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<v Speaker 1>they could be reflected and and the reflection is important

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<v Speaker 1>because we use the Earth's atmosphere to reflect radio signals. Now, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know at the time this was absolutely groundbreak exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And he discovered that that speed that Chris was talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>in case you're curious, was a hundred eighty six thousands, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred six thousand miles per second. If that sounds familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to you, it may be because that is the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light. And that's kind of where we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how Hurts helped prove Maxwell's theories because here was this

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<v Speaker 1>other form of energy that was not visible light, but

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<v Speaker 1>it traveled at the same speed as visible light travel.

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<v Speaker 1>So that suggests that the two are in some way related.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's true. Um. The thing is, though we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking long distance with these translations. We're talking about within

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<v Speaker 1>a room. But people began to experiment with this, one

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<v Speaker 1>of whom was Oliver Lodge, a British scientist. UM. He

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get reception at about seventy yards with

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<v Speaker 1>his most sensitive equipment. UM. Others were able to get

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<v Speaker 1>them get radio waves a little farther, a little shorter. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people were absolutely stunned that radio waves could travel

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<v Speaker 1>through buildings. Just was another one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>we sort of take for granted today because we're used

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But uh, you couldn't see it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of, uh, sort of weird. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>counterintuitive to that whole electromagnetic theory, right because light we know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an opaque structure that's gonna block light,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see light shining through the walls. If you did,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd go crazy. Uh you never sleep. Well, it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how poorous the walls are. I guess it does

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I've lived in some places let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you anyway, But in a solid opaque structure, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>block light. So the theory would be, well, if if

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<v Speaker 1>light and this other form of electro mantic magnetic energy

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<v Speaker 1>are are related, then clearly this opaque thing is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>block that too. Not so much. Nope, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>very confusing early on. It's true, Um, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out who who we should talk about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there there are a lot of There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players in here. There's there's pop Off, who he

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<v Speaker 1>had laboratory demonstrations of radio that he that he did

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<v Speaker 1>back in so large his work was in right, So

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<v Speaker 1>just a year later you've got pop Off doing experiments

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<v Speaker 1>and in the in the lab and in eight and

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<v Speaker 1>he's also um working with various uh methods to transmit

0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.840
<v Speaker 1>radio waves. And you have to again, you've gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>a transmitter and a receiver, and those are your basic

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<v Speaker 1>elements of a radio, and early radios were either one

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<v Speaker 1>or the other. It was a while before people could

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<v Speaker 1>develop a radio that could both transmit and receive, like

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<v Speaker 1>to allow for two way communication. He has a transceiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Those early experiments were really just figuring out the whole

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<v Speaker 1>the mode of transmission and reception. And in fact, earliest

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.520
<v Speaker 1>radio signals were not tuned to a specific frequency like

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<v Speaker 1>they are to day, like today you tune into a

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<v Speaker 1>radio station, those earliest ones were kind of more like

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<v Speaker 1>a shotgun approach. Uh. You know that you would get

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<v Speaker 1>a range of frequencies. So uh, there wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 1>problem early early on because you had so few people

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<v Speaker 1>working on this. There wasn't a lot of contamination and interference.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we were to be using those same methods today,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to tune into more than a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of stations because they'd be taking up a really

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<v Speaker 1>broad range of the spectrum. So the earlies days of radio.

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<v Speaker 1>It was free for all. You could broadcast on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>part of the freak the spectrum you wanted. Because there

0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.280
<v Speaker 1>were so few people out there, there was nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>compete with. Okay, so um, yeah, and it's uh they're

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<v Speaker 1>One of the people that that I read about, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of as a red herring, was a guy named William

0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Crooks who uh some say some believe for a while

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<v Speaker 1>that he may have had a hand in creating uh

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<v Speaker 1>wireless telegraphy basically using radio as a telegraph um because

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<v Speaker 1>in February he published an article in the Fortnightly Review.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that article he used the word telegraphy. He said, sentony.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fancy word, and I would say probably an

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<v Speaker 1>obsolete word for the ability to tune. He said, yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't heard it before I started doing any

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<v Speaker 1>research on this. Senteny. Oh that's kind of cool word.

0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he said, oh, yes, there will be uh

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to use this wireless telegraph and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to tune it to a specific frequency and

0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.520
<v Speaker 1>get uh get messages. But the problem was he um,

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he had a lot of uh scientifically incorrect information in

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that article. Now, some people said, oh, well, look, he's

0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.400
<v Speaker 1>inspired a lot of people to do this, but there

0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>aren't a lot of people who credit him with inspiring

0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>them to work on radio technology. And most of most

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the article sort of came to years

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<v Speaker 1>later after radio was becoming a thing. Um. Some actually

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>suggested that maybe he was trying to take credit for

0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.159
<v Speaker 1>it after the fact, So he was Rhett Conning. But

0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.119
<v Speaker 1>it seems like I would guess that there are people,

0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 1>there are people who are like like crooks, crooks who

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<v Speaker 1>had an idea that's the kind of an ironic name. Um,

0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.919
<v Speaker 1>who at least had a grip to some degree on

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<v Speaker 1>what you could do with the technology. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of it, but not the whole picture. Yeah. Another

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 1>guy who appeared to have the whole picture, but was

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a little too reluctant to share his technology. This guy,

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.359
<v Speaker 1>this guy could have been the inventor of radio. People

0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.639
<v Speaker 1>give him credit for there, this guy because he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to demonstrate radio very early on. Comparatively speaking, So

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<v Speaker 1>in eight two you have an inventor by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Nathan Nathan stubble Field right from Murray, Kentucky. He

0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.160
<v Speaker 1>was a farmer and inventor so clearly, if you're farming,

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna think I want to invent me a radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I am amazed. I mean to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's really it shows that ingenuity is is a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal thing and it it can strike anywhere. Right. So

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you have stubble Field, who was legitimately a really smart

0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and clever guy. Uh. And so in eighteen ninety two

0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he publicly demonstrates a wireless communication system and not only

0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.320
<v Speaker 1>does it broadcast radio signals, he could actually broadcast voice

0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and music. Now, keep in mind, the earliest radio public

0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.239
<v Speaker 1>demonstrations were all tones. It wasn't It wasn't like you

0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.919
<v Speaker 1>could do a symphony over the radio. It was you

0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>could you could transmit Morse code over the radio. So

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 1>here you have stubble Field in eighteen ninety two demonstrating this,

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh he was able to do it again in

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<v Speaker 1>eight which this one was actually document eight two is

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is undocumented, so you know it could be up for debate.

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:10.120
<v Speaker 1>But the St. Louis Dispatch documented and demonstration he did

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 1>where he transmitted radio waves at a distance of around

0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 1>five hundred yards. Uh. This this was a big problem

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of the early radio broadcasters. They didn't

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of range to their broadcasts. Right, five

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.119
<v Speaker 1>yards is not that far right, So you you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>your DJ coming on and say, I have a short

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.679
<v Speaker 1>distance dedicated this guy over here dedicates it to that

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>gal over there. You could see each other. Why don't

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 1>your wave? Um so the but he he demonstrates it,

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and he could have potentially been the father of the radio.

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:50.200
<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem. Stubble Field, it was a little paranoid.

0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.120
<v Speaker 1>He was worried that people were going to steal his invention,

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<v Speaker 1>so worried that he would hide it away in a

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<v Speaker 1>shack and lock it up. And then he out an

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<v Speaker 1>offer to sell his invention, and uh it was five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars for his invention. Um this was around

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>uh oh, in the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds.

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Five thousand dollars. That's a lot of clams. It's a

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of clams today. And it was even more clams.

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like an entire beta clams back back then.

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And so stubble Field turned it down. And what's interesting

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to me is we actually see this mirrored in the

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<v Speaker 1>way some companies behave today. I was talking to Chris

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<v Speaker 1>about this earlier. There's another company that recently was offered

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 1>about six billion dollars to be an acquisition of of

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>another larger company, um but they turned it down. This

0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>company turned down that six billion dollar offer and valued

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>itself at twenty five billion dollars. But as a result

0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of waiting around too long, one could argue the value

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of the company has dropped significantly since then. And Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the name of that company? Group On? Group On?

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>So here Groupon took the internet by storm. Everyone was

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>really impressed by group On. Everyone thought that this was

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<v Speaker 1>really where where things were moving. Well, that's kind of

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the problem because things were moving in that direction, but

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>there was no way to protect groupons business model, and

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>so lots of other companies sprang up that uh mimic

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 1>groupons business models, some of which you might even argue

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 1>improve on Groupon's business model. Well, because Groupon was kind

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of holding back. Now its position is a little more

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 1>tenuous because you have all these competitors that could steal

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the limelight away from group On. The same thing happened

0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>more than a hundred years ago, was stubble Field. This

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:55.239
<v Speaker 1>is a story that goes back decades and decades you know,

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.199
<v Speaker 1>you think we'd learn our lesson by now. You know,

0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you strike while the iron is hot. People. So stubble Field,

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<v Speaker 1>because he sat on his invention and because he did

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 1>not act upon it. Uh, he was scooped by other inventors.

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's a pair of people who we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, one of whom was ultimately scooped by the

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>other one, and the other one used the technology of

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the first. Isn't that fun? Yeah? Um? Yeah? And and

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a tragic uh conclusion to stubble field story,

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>he died a pauper of starvation. Wow. So he turned

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the money down. And I guess his farm didn't survive either,

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>apparently because I mean starvation and a farmer. Wow. But

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>it was Kentucky, so maybe he was just growing you know,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 1>bourbon girls on trees. Right. I don't know. I don't drink,

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>so I have no knowledge of that. So we move

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.159
<v Speaker 1>on and talk about those two fellows. So here are

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the two people that most discussions about who invented the radio.

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately it boils down to these two guys, even though we've,

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>as we've argued, there are a lot of other people

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to consider in this equation, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola Tesla. And I'm just gonna say g Marconi because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stay pronounce his first name. It's Italian, and

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I am not. So Marconi is often given the credit

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<v Speaker 1>for inventing the radio. In fact, he has the official credit,

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at least by the in the eyes of the United

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>States government, for inventing the radio. Other other people give

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>credit to other people. But you know that that's the

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>way it goes with these things. Um So Marconi was

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>legitimately working on radio. It's not like Marconi was just

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>some guy who swept in and stole everything. He was

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<v Speaker 1>actually working hard on trying to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>make long distance radio transmission a reality. He was having

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>some trouble though. A lot of his UH his transmissions

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>were going to a maximum distance of about one point

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>five kilometers, and that's just not far enough for for

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>real broadcast power. So, in fact, I think I read

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>somewhere where one one UH critic said that his his

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>broadcast wouldn't reach across a pond, which makes me wonder

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 1>if that's where we got that. You know, when you

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>go across the pond, But I honestly don't know. I

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it does make me wonder if that's

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>where we got that phrase, because ultimately Marconi was able

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to send a signal from Europe to America. Yeah, that's

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a that would be a question for a way with words. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is this is a phrase across the pond date back

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to Marconi's invention or you know, credited invention of the radio.

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But Marconi used a lot of technology developed by someone else,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>developed by Nicola Tesla, so much so that Nicola Tesla

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>probably not entirely jokingly said that Marconi was using he

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>wished Marconi, well, the man's using seventeen of my patents. Well,

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and that may be true. True, I didn't, I didn't

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>look into it that far. But the thing, and that

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was the case for a lot of things UM. In

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the in the creation of alternating current Westinghouse UM, George

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Westinghouse was using a lot of Tesla's patents to UM

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and then using the technology that Tesla patented. Assuming you

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>know that that Tesla is getting credit for it, then

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Tesla would earn some you know, with a license properly

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>licensed patent, the Tesla should be earning some residuals on

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Marconi's invention. Yeah, here's the problem, Marconi. There's a problem

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Marconi didn't admit readily that he was using any of

0:25:54.520 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's stuff. Like, what what Tesla had been to do

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>is he was able through the actually really Tesla coils

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>is what we're getting down to, he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>invent away of of creating really powerful bursts of energy

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of electricity. Right, you remember the the hurts and using

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the transmitting the electrical energy from one place to another. Right,

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>So the Tesla coil is far more powerful. Yeah, it's

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a refined, powerful invention that's based upon

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that principle. And through using this as part of a

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>radio transmission system, Marconi was able to transmit signals much

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>further than he could on his old system. But uh,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>according to some of the reports I've read, and there's

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of I mean, there are Testlas supporters out

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.479
<v Speaker 1>there who who rape Marconi over the coals, and then

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>there are other people who either dismissed Tesla's involvement or

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they downplay it. Um, there's some people who are true

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Marconi supporters. The whole thing is really muddy, right, But

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>from what I gather, Marconi tried to argue he patented

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the radio in the UK, Tesla did it in the

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>United States. Now, Marconi argued that you know, hey, I

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>was able to make this thing work and no one

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>else was, so I I deserved the patent for this

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this technology um and even argued so far as to say, hey,

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>what Tesla coil and which case A judge was saying, Oh,

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>come on, that's a that's a common word here, because,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>like we said, these guys were rock stars. It's not

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like this stuff was obscure. This stuff was front page news.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So people knew these terms. They didn't necessarily understand them all,

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>but they knew what they knew of them, and so

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>for someone to feign ignorance seemed disingenuous at best. So

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Marconi is arguing that he should be the one, uh

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>that people back, and Tesla isn't arguing as much because

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Tesla didn't feel that he needed to argue. He felt

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>he was in the right. He didn't why should I

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>come forward and and fight tooth and nail with this

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>guy when it's so obvious that I'm the person that

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>credit should go to. That was kind of Testla's viewpoint,

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>as far as we can tell. You gotta also remember

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Tesla became increasingly mentally unstable towards the end of his life.

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He became more and more paranoid, possibly with good reason,

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>because of the way he had been treated in his

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>past um and so it's hard to kind of definitively

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>say what the man was thinking. Also, he had had

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this rivalry with Edison, right that dated back, Yes, it

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>dated back to the World's Fair where it was between

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Edison and Tesla. Who's going whose system is going to

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>power the World's Fair in Chicago. Is it gonna be

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Edison's direct current power or is it gonna be Testla's

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>alternating current? Ultimately it went to Tesla. Edison not a

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>man who drops a grudge easily, as it turns out.

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And so Edison's looking around and he's saying, you know,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a big thing. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make bookoos of cash. I gotta get in on this.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Carnegie, great philanthropist, industrialist. He also says, this is

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>where it's at, this is the next huge development in technology.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting in on this. They look around. You've got Tesla,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>who is brilliant but is also self destructive, not necessarily intentionally,

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>but his behavior and his obsession with transmitting power over

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a long distance broadcasting power building essentially what it would

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>amount to an enormous Tesla coil and cloaking the earth

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and electricity sounds a little like a mad scientist, not

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>necessarily the guy you're gonna go and dump keeps a

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>cash on top of So then they look at Marconi.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Marconi who has proven that his technology works. His technology,

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>which admittedly rests on the shoulders of others like Tesla.

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>He Marconi even demonstrates that he can send a signal

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>transatlantically across the entire ocean. He transmits the letter S

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>in Morse code, and that proves that his system works.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>With a proven system, with a man who does not

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>appear to be unhinged. That's the guy that everyone gives

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>their money to. So Marconi starts to get the political

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and the financial support, and Marconi ends up coming over

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to America and even wins a patent for a radio,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the patent that was previously not the same one, but

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the patent that had been Tesla's became overturned in court.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And this is where the huge controversy is. People say

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that essentially that Edison Carnegie and even Marconi, who came

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>from a family that was really well connected and really

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>wealthy in Europe, that they used their political and financial

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>clout to force the Patent Office, essentially the court system

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of the United States, to overturn Tesla's patents so that

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Marconi could be the the true patent holder for the

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>inventor of radio. Meanwhile, Tesla's screaming to the heavens and

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>shaking his tiny fists in vain and also watching his

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>lab burned down for the fourth or fifth time that happened.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Tesla had a run of incredibly bad luck. We did

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>do an episode on Tesla. I recommend you listen to

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that if you really want to hear the story of

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>his life. Yeah, the loss of Warden Cliff, Oh yeah,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that that was I think probably would have affected his

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>ability to defend his So. Yeah, radio. So now you've

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>got so if you're asking officially who invented the radio, well,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're going by the documents in the United States government,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's Marconi, right, But if you're going to ask an inventor,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>then you might hear a different answer, and it may

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not be Tesla. The inventor may say, well, yeah, Tesla

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>was able to create the technology that made podcast radio

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>viable thing. But if you want to talk about who

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>invented the radio, you gotta go back before him. So it's,

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>like we said, a really complex topic, yes, and definitely

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>fascinating to look at at how these great inventors were

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all developing an important piece of the puzzle or or

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>improving upon the technology to increase distance and quality. Um,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just fascinating. And then you get into other things

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like who you know which was the first radio station

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and that unfortunately is not a clear answer either either.

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So so wait, uh, Chris yet ask you okay, gun

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to the head. Yep, there is a there's a man

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>standing up in front of you. His gun is pointed

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>towards your noggain, and he says, who invented the radio?

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.959
<v Speaker 1>You have to give me one name and that's it. Ultimately,

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>who do you say invented the radio? That's fair. I

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>would say the same thing. But I certainly wouldn't uh

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>put down Marconi because he did so much important work

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and and and one of the things that he did

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>for radio that Tesla really wasn't doing was promoting the

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>idea that it could be used for commercial purposes and

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>getting investors behind it because Tesla was kind of sitting

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on it. Yeah, Tesla was kind of like this rock

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>star showman. But Marconi was a rock star businessman and

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he was really behind radio. I don't think he he

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>wasn't into as many different kinds of technology. I mean,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was into all the sports things and and Marconi

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>was really the radio guy. So so we've got some

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>some sources we'd like to mention to you guys to

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>check out if you're really interested in this, because, like

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is a fascinating time in history. In fact,

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>let me let me read. I meant to do this earlier, um,

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to give you what Einstein said radio was.

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Einstein's definition of radio is one of my favorites. Is

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you see why are telegram as a kind of very

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>very long cat you pull his tail in New York

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and his head as mewing in Los Angeles? Do you

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>understand this? Well, radio operates in the same way you

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>send signals here, they received them there. The only difference

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is that there's no cat. I love that description, Like,

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>oh well now it makes sense. Einstein. Thank you? Can

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you tell me about my relatives now, just in general,

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing special, just a theory. So let's talk about some

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of the sources we use, because we we came across

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>some really really useful ones. Yeah, and it's one of

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the things that I found funny about that we were

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about how just a moment ago, about how convoluted

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is, a lot of my sources didn't overlap.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>So we we sort of glued some of this together

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>from different people because I found a couple of books

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>um at the library and that might be at yours too.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>One was Sentony and Sparked The Origins of Radio by

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Hugh G. J Aitken A I. T. K. E. N.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And the other ones Wireless from Marconius Black Box to

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the Audience by Sun Coook Hong, both of which were

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>excellent and got into a whole lot more detailed we

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>really really can't get into now. But Jonathan found a

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of excellent websites that we used to that had

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Stubblefield wasn't in either one of those books. Yeah, there's

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>um there's one that was done by Julian t. Ruben

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and actually it's Julian t Ruben dot Com. There's a

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>whole section about radio and the inventors. There there even

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>other people that we didn't talk about, like Loomis and

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Bows and Forest de Forest. Yeah, there's there's When we

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>say that there were a lot of people working on this,

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that's nine exaggeration. There were way more than we were

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>able to talk about in this episode. Um, but yeah,

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>if you want to learn more about them, i'd recommend

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that UH. That site. Also there is an excellent article

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>by b. Eric Rhodes that's R H O A D S.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Just who invented radio and which was the first station? Uh,

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's also a really good read and a

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>great overview of radio. And finally, there's a website called

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Amateur Radio and Electronics. UH. The u r L is

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>v W L O W E N dot c O

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>dot UK, so it's a it's a British site. Also

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>has a great section on radio and how it works

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and UH and its history. So I recommend checking these

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>out if you're interested in the topic. Also, we do

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have lots of articles on our site about radio, how

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>radio works, how the radio spectrum works, how transistor radios work,

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>how crystal radios work. All of that information you can

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>find at how stuff Works dot com and if you're

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>interested in this stuff, definitely take a look at it.

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>There's a ton of different ways of actually building your

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 1>own radio. I mean that used to be a big

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>thing back in the fifties and sixties, but you can

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>still do it today. And it's a neat way to

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of learn some electronics and uh and some engineering,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and you get a real sense of accomplishment when you

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 1>build something like that. That's true. I built a crystal

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a m radio when I was a kid from a

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>from a kid which was which was a lot of fun.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's just so sad that all these people work

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>so hard on the radio and then video killed the

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>radio star. Yeah, that darn, darn you MTV. And now

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand the problems you can see. I remember that

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the second video was a pet Benatar video. That's all

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Okay, look it up. I just can't remember

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the name of the song now, but it wasn't been

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Atar video anyway. A little trivia for those people who

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<v Speaker 1>lived through the launch of MTV. We're there for you.

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